#Polaris Palooza
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nvm
galaxy has t1
idris too and apollo
wouldnāt like to lose my credits cuz. 10% of 47mil is a lot 
Idris has T1??
yes
Then donāt die.
Javelin will be juicy.
supposedly
easier said than done
I live on a Javelin. After I petition CR to remove hunger and thirst, Iām probably going to just forget how to spell Death.

just use medbay to have infinite food and water
I'm going to live forever!

Forever indeed

Shush! When I have my Javelin, your turret will be no match for my superior turretry!
I am not your little bro.
I was out of missiles and committed die.
if you can afford to get it off the ground lol
I will live in space.
not literally. i very much doubt that a single person will sustain a javelin
I think I will.


Running a jav is more of a group event thing for my peeps
My buds have been waiting for me to get back from family stuff to use my Polaris
ok bristerian
Shut.
i literally have a shut up card for you
i'll literally just keep sending that clip
don't you have any shame to speak after i send it
My ship is bigger than yours, soā¦
we get it you have a javelin 
wonāt help your skill issue 
Lmao
yet your crew is smaller than mine
the bigger they are the harder they fall
i just creased out
Non existent.
NPCs!
I won't even enter atmo. Orbital bombardment goes brrrt.
Huh!?!
more existent than the hair on your head 
than the clothes on your body
than the keyboard on your desk
the awesome handsome man telling you that you have a skill issue
š
i'm talking about actual crew members
npc's aren't even slated for 1.0
I'll still win.
i think you're counting your chickens before they hatch bubsy
I mean the only thing that can orbital bombard is the idris railgun and bombers
iāll fly your javelin for free so you can sit in the captains chair and feel like the ship is fully crewed (my payment is that iāve always wanted to fly one)
you can also bark orders at me in true captain fashion
Works for me.
Javs rear S9 can also do that.
Nuh Uh!
go take your dementia meds
I doubt jav guns have a range of 20km +
They are S9. I bet they do.
hm no live yet
nice
so now its 3.23 the phoenix has PDCs right?
so now its 3.24.3 the phoenix has PDCs right?*
it is yes
just checked patch notes
captains quarters is in btw
oh right right i need to read that too 
!!!!
quarters got added
finally 
on release day? not real
spectrum guys are saying they cant fly the polaris
some canāt
if they just pledged it
or smth
like buy back
or upgrade but idk
bout to find out

yeah
they donāt
or the hornets
patch is 6GB for me is gonna take like 3 hours
maybe 1.5
or 2
this is insanity
I'll need to see if I have any ships that I have that give me a hammerhead still
but not idris 
Why TF is that??
fuck idris owners i guess
maybe surprise release at IAE? 
doubt it
its probs a mistake theyll fix
after getting screamed at on spectrum
If Idris and Javelin release at IAE, My heart will grow 3 sizes. But based on Citcon...
We know they are done and also that many people dislike this.
They really should huh.
javelin probably wont even if idris did
You just gave me a S9 dose of Copium.
ngl they shouldnt rlly hold them back
It was in the trailer!
Exactly!
and if theres sq42 spoilers
cant they just lock those rooms?
yeah see
Huh??
like the polaris captains quarters until they was ready
They already gave a tour of the Idris... and showed us around a damaged Javelin.
yeah but not the full thing right? at ILW its only part
Wasn't that the entire Idris? At ILW?
probably has whole thing
idk they usually have guards at every door lol
except like medbay briefing room
like 4 rooms you can go in mainly just empty corridors
I mean, there was the whole free tour thing.
#Release the Idris and Javelin!
no locked rooms
So if everybody already knows.. then why can't we already have it?
idk
NO clue
dont ask me
just doesnt make sense that they can drop a polaris capital but not the already done and sold thousands of times ones
if they think the game is ready for caps
then let there be caps
unless they just dipping their toes and staggering them to get the most from sales
probs that
polaris wouldnt sell as well if over shadowed
And why is Polaris overshadowed?
So they gave Perseus, a smaller gunship, owners an RSI Polaris, a larger fleet leading ship, as their loaner?

Correct.
What the fuck
is the polaris a joke?
just gonna pledge a kraken and keep my polaris.....
Apparently yes.
by a bigger capital?
also its still mid asf
Its crazy how hard theyve botched this release
By anything not a Polaris.
to power and ammo

I want Idris and Javelin now but not like this.
I agree
Power, mostly.
They seem to want to force us to use crews which is fine because its a big ass ship. but then they nerf the turrets to the point where its not even really worth it
then hand the ship out like candy so it wont be special whatsoever.
Capital ships are meant to be huge and not everywhere. Should be kinda cool/special when you see one in the open. RN its like another tuesday
I understand over time we wont see as many. But a lot of people have perseus pledges and a lot of people also have Polaris pledges. What next fuckin hammerhead owners also get a complimentary Polaris?
Because everybody and their mother got a Polaris Loaner.
It's because there is novariety. Gee... if only they released a few different ships at a time.
Just crazy how hard theyve done everything but what the community is saying...
I even gace them a concise thread to follow. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/65300/thread/polaris-potential-buffs
oh dont even get me started on the powerplant...
3 X1s produce more power than the Polaris.

3 pulses probs have more dps than the S6 too
3 Pulses have 408. Polaris S6s have 8000.
brist
i want you to know
sometimes the things i say
i donāt mean them
itās just funny
I was questioning it for a sec and looked it up on Erkul.
i hope you knew this 
Just because you didn't know doesn't mean I did.
i wouldnāt be surprised
The gun is bad and 1 Pulse is good. Mayyybe 3 Pulses...

so uh fixed yet?
Is the captains quarters in yet?
no lol
wrong pic mb
here
@fierce arrow
sad sad
fym no eta
literally so rushed
if the quarters is this far away
one room btw
tiny ahh room

so the pilot seat can use missiles
s3 missiles
are we dog fighting?
thats worse than s10 torps 
co pilot gets the same controls + hangar door controls and cam
tractor beam uses 2 energy bars
yea the missile pod should def be moved to the middle of the ship
and have its missile count multipled by at least 5 
for how big the powerplant is (bespoke btw) I feel like the Polaris is lacking in power 
I lost the connie 
Polaris perseus loaner is huge
Will the polaris go on sale for fleet week in the spring?
Because now I want to treat this loaner like a test drive but I'm afraid of the polaris not being sold again š
the main elevator isnt accessible...?
the hangar ceiling covers up the elevator areas
just a little trimming and it would fit perfectly
this artificially decreases hangar opening imo
TF!?!
They have never loaned something larger than the initial purchase before.
Did they make a mistake?
there she is
also this
I still might buy the polaris, I'm just concerned that it's gonna increase too much and I won't be able to buy it with store credt
Currenly running off of a perseus and 150 credit, so I can only afford it to go up by 75 which is probably too little of an increase
I have a zeus that I would rather not melt
It is already $750.
imma be real wid u fam thats giga cool
Yes, naturally its a polaris bargain sale
so every cap owner just got a polaris now
Bro you get a free polaris for being a Perseus owner thanks to CIG making the polaris free to everyone basically
Also no captains quarters on LIVE RELEASE is some absolute diabolical work
I was a huge Polaris fanboy and still absolutely love the ship but this is just so fucking bad it hurts
Why?
The Polaris is the Perseus' loaner
It's not released if it isn't complete. CIG lied.
But Why TF was it made free?
every one thats not a fish probably has one of those ships
Its not that its free. its me being sarcastic cause im salty. But they handed it out to everyone with a perseus or bigger as the loaner
not me tho, I got it as an actual pledge 
I do too, thats why im salty so many people are getting it as loaners especially for a smaller ship
well no one likes the HH

got enough fuel to go back and forth MT - Orison about 20 times
then it needs a refuel
That is basically free.
Same.
Small guns and too many crew requirements.
perhaps the odyssey was better for my space base purposes
hangar size will probably still be gimped knowing cig
testing bed logging
wheres the 2nd in command room or the one for the pilot?
Remember to right click because they screwed everything up with the markers.
bed logged and woke up in the same bed succesfully
Not in game. Delayed. No ETA.
No it's the armory
Good trade, every polaris crew is gonna be underpaid anyways so a 2ic room isn't necessary
Wait, so they made the XOs room an armory?
They couldn't have just... put that in the garage/hangar?
both rooms were planned
Well what happened?
2ic room was sacrificed for crew rooms instead of one big crew room
That's not practical, it's suppose to be leveled with the crew quarters and close to the bridge in-case of boarding action. Wouldn't want some random pirated having access to 5 railguns and 10 LMGs would you? It's not about just fitting rooms wherever it has some tactical planning towards it.
Crew rooms staying like the original design which was about the same as the Idris's/Javelin's would've been fine personally. They take way more space. Although I guess you can say it's more personalized and comfortable.
Very sadge.
armory is opposite the captain s room
first one to grab a gun ig 
pdc s target small crafts now?
I like the personalized and comfortable... But I need Some place to sleep and not having the captains quarters means that this ship isn't yet fit for bedlogging.
Yup. But only "Fighters."
good enough ig
now I just need a crew to do the event
and maybe attend a ship meet 
Yes. And I have 150 store credit, with 675 value on the perseus, so upgrading the perseus to the polaris means it needs to stay under 825, sorry I forgot to mention my plan is to upgrade
that small base building car might be valuable for crafting fuses in teh future
definitely not disagreeing with the sentiment here
man the crews not even an issue i have plenty of people for a capital...but do i even want the polaris anymore?
I would normally day no but it really sucks, soā¦
What really sucks, the perseus?

Polaris.
Ah

maybe the polaris was the friends we made along the way
nah just kidding polaris gang š¤
perseus pilots cant use s7 guns
if they could and the polaris still cant fire s10 from the pilot seat ill flip a table
idek why the s3 missile launcher isnt a pod
why is it bolted to the front with pilot control like we re dogfighting
What size are the pdc guns?
They're manual turrets so they'll never be able to, I think the only pilot weapons might be the S5 torps but even those might get relegated to a copilot seat
S1.
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I'd assume it's for smaller targets and screening missiles, but right now we don't have something like Rattlers or a decoy/disruption missile in size 3 that you could drop to disrupt or overwhelm enemy PDs alongside your torps
Pdc are the pilot weapons lol
How do I target a ship I want to attack?
Is that a PD rocket launcher or just a fancy missile turret?
Maybe the Sea Ram to our current Phalanx style PD? Do we think it will use the same missile technology the Nova has?
how did you get it inside, doesnāt it retract the polaris when you spawn another ship
i always have to spawn my big ship, get a friend to fly it out then spawn the smaller one
for ground vehicles i drive them to the side
of the hangar
I spawn the f7a and park it at the side of the hangar
ah
where abouts is big enough?
Theres enough room around the side and corners
Just make sure all the feet are outside the moving hangar floors
cool, iāve only managed to do it with fury nothing bigger
tbf i did try it with uh
f8 
Kinda wish for bigger floors lmao
and bigger
I did it with the vulture at the sides
have you done any phase 3?
Nope
ah ok
Starting with phase 1 lmaooo
LOL
what is the min and max range for s10 torps?
2.8k-30k thanks
lock range, hit range is different, but yeah ;-D
yeah lock range is what i was looking for
which ship team made polaris
i thought they were all together
im pretty sure they are relatively separated since is widely considered the Montreal team made zeus
Dumbfire polaris is risky but strong
at this point the only way to play polaris
Polaris so bad we have to shot gun people with long range torps, struggles at long range struggles at brawling with turrets, bois Iām starting to think we got the civilian Polaris
They def planning on releasing Polaris-M
watch as they disable dumbfire
legit way to fire is somewhere 3k out but with the current speed that will take more than 10s or 15s ish
enough time to shoot down anything coming from the direction of the polaris with pdc's and turrets
not to mention counter measures and maneuvering to dodge
Dumbfire requires two people still?
Dumbfire lowkey a strat
Is anyone able to spawn their polaris in their XL hangers ?
ngl it looks cooler than legit lock on and firing
go in fast, deliver payload, get out
like what was described on the Polaris brochure 
truly
dumbfiring requires more communications than legit method 
just as the multicrewers at cig intended
Origin Supremacy.
Retaliators job. Not Polaris. It looks bad when something so large does that.
2 s3 powerplants produces 3 more bars than the s4 Polaris has (stock C2 vs Stock Polaris)
from erkul
the tractor beam uses 2 bars of power too btw
If anyone ould like to crew a Polaris frequently hit me up the Pella is Hiring
i think its over bois from the way they sounded on that IAE video, sounds like they happy with polaris
It's so over š
All the Polaris is now is a bigger Carrack. SMH
honestly that's what i paid for so not a huge deal for me, sucks for everyone who wanted a proper capital warship
The low dmg turrets eerily remind me of the Idris-P to Idris-M/K upgrades..
You wanted a carrack when you bought a capital warship? š
honestly i liked the bigger hangar and more useful cargo
im gonna use it as a base instead of a warship
sad that they just bonked it for everyone who bought it for it's purpose tho
Fair on you. I know people will use ships as they very well damn please! but I am miffed the turrets are dog.. And torpedoes are useless unless you almost exploit
CIG very clearly wants them to be useless at this point
yea. sad
On a side note.. do we have a number for how much HP the Idris in P3 has?
i wouldn't really compare anything that's released vs unreleased tbh
Oh, no - but im very curious as to how much HP it does have
don't really get why people keep comparing things that way, it's really not a good way
cuz they gon change a lot when they release it anyway
had two full crewed polaris dumbfiring torps + shooting em conventionally and it still took a good while
The Idris wont be as powerful as the "server boss version", i know - I'm just curious
regardless, polaris has been gutted in terms of weapons so 
Wouldn't be so bad if the turrets just got upsized a tier or two
i'm honestly way past paying cig based on specs
real, itās an org platform to me not a battleship
specs as in gun/component sizing etc
but wouldāve been nice if it was an org platform battleship
sadly itās not quite good enough to be a true cap like that
i mean it was sold as an org platform battleship tho
exactly
but i mainly wanted an org platform more than a battleship so its not as bad for me
still scam game
yeah
Honestly, i wouldn't be so bummed about it if CIG didn't say like 5 months ago that it would stand strong based on turrets alone compared to other cap ships š
tbh only pledge ships when released and when you like them even if they don't have any components/guns on them
i'd pledge so much more shit if i actually believed cig would keep them balanced the way they intended them to be
first of all, my redeemer would still be in my hangar 
The shields were a bit crazy, though..
But i didnt mind the guns
Would've loved to see it keep it's guns, get a shield/hull nerf + some mobility
Now it's just a mess
instead they ripped its face off
i didn't trust them before the redeemer thing but that really set it in stone
honestly depending on if the galaxy changes before release or endeavor drops before i expect or something like that, i might just melt my polaris. it's a cool ship and i'd keep it regardless because it's also a multicrew battle platform if i ever wanted to have one, but at this point.. granted percy doesn't get gutted the same way, i'll just pledge a percy.
I'm close to melting. But no idea what would replace it currently.
yeah, there's no other platform like it
I love alot about the polaris
but for the reasons i wanted it, it's awful
It won't fight idrises as a "underdog" with a trick
yeah, same
It won't really be more mobile
honestly my gripe with it was the looks, i really hated the way it looked before the change
It'll just be a stepping-stone warship till you get an idris 
I might be in the minority but i really liked the small redesign
but now that we have the rougher exterior which i goddamn love, the strangled chicken neck is way less pronounced and it actually looks pretty neat
Interior is .. not good, though - but that's about it being rushed
yeah i love it
hallways seem way too cramped to me
Cramped hallways and dull light
I do love the "red doors"
that indicate turrets though
My favourite interior design decision on the polaris by far
makes it easy to tell friends / crew to find a turret
But the medbay is disgusting
Frick...
well i guess we riot when polaris q&a drops
I was hoping for a Saucer Separation escape pod thingy.
Also agreed.
It is too barebones. Literally the bare minimum.
Well, who knows what they will announce this IAE..
If nothing ill probably hodl my polaris
Random question, how do i get onto the polaris from the ground <_< i dont see any switch anywhere or label or marker or nothing
The crew elevator is either hard to access or damn inaccessible. The ramps interaction prompt is quite away from the ship
It should mark on you hud tho
And interact with empty air
we 10 manned the Polussy it was so fun

the missile turret is actually fun but it needs way more ammo
reloading 12 missiles every 2 mins would not be good for any loop
Main gun needs way more ammo
Size 6 with 300 rounds on a civilian grade wannabe cap compared to a fighter with a size 7 having 3600 rounds
yea I agree, the only 2 big issue I can see are both related to ammo
the s6 an missile turret
id honestly be happy with a 3-4x the ammo on the missile turret an double the rounds for the s6
Meh I have issues with size 3 guns being on a military grade cap, and a ship that is suppose to āsomewhat hold its own against other capsā all its anti cap firepower is in one turret
and 28 torps
not just the s6
Torps are gimmick
for now
Two Polaris canāt even land hits on 890j and idris and jav will have more pdc
its just balance stuff mate
it can all be tweaked an ballistics guns shred the pds really fast
I mean if they make pdc weaker then Polaris becomes fish food for eclipses again
So Polaris is military grade cap that has to be babied
it doesn't
Well I mean Polaris wonāt be able to do it on its own which makes torps an after thought
no it doesn't???
So you want Polaris to close gap on idris avoid rail gun and take out pdc
You just need to understand the pdc is a defence that needs to be removed before firing torps it's not hard to grasp
send a swarm of buzz furys to focus the pdc spots with ballistic gats
I mean when engineering comes in fury swarm is just meat for turrets
its still hard to hit a fury outside of 1.5km
very hard
its tiny
meanwhile they penetrating the shields with gats an removing the pdc
you can't just roll up to another cap in a Polaris an expect to just nuke it with torps 0 effort
Not saying it should but relying on something else to do work to allow Polaris just to land one torp makes torps a after thought
no it doesn't
it makes it balanced.
I don't wanna just QT to locations an dump 4-8 torps an call it a day
nty that sounds boring af
Im with pingus
If I wanted to have a solo flying experience with bunch of guns, I'd go play space engineers

So unless Polaris has fury swarm it is glorified transport ship or fat carrack take your pick next to other caps ships
man we had 10 of us today it was so fun
That sounds amazing, most of the time it's 4 of us
yah it was great we usually have 5-7 so we still okay but today was just peak
all guns firing even the missile turret
I'd be curious how the game balance would work if we had something like a stasis webifier from eve
Stasis webifier (webs) slow a ships speed down to a % of its top speed
ohhh we have that in a sense
The specific % depends on the module, but it's 50-60%
I mean that's a pretty hard lock down already you are essentially forcing combat within a 20km bubble
no running
they can't switch back to NAV
You still have full scm speed
yah but that's not very fast at all
Maybe a modification of the EM guns
an you gunna be getting chased no doubt so the bubble will be moving with you
Slow down ship as you hit it
I doubt we gunna get that stuff it seems like it could be busted or gamed
an the mantis an such do the same role
which is force combat
we won't even see Idris railgun stuff on anything but the Idris
No I'm saying let it get hit by it
I need a mantis pilot to fly between a bunch of caps yelling "WITNESS ME"

we had some funny moments today an alot of near misses of other ships nearly ramming us
but holy shit when the 2 top turrets an 1 of the side turrets target the same fighter ect they literally melt
It's like a HH when you have the same coord lol
I'd love to see a HH and Pol work together on a mission like this
When the xeno mission stuff was about to start, me and a buddy were doing the idris hunt and I'm guessing the incursion mission part of it slammed on top of each other
It was the idris from the Arlington gang vs the (not) xeno incursion of like 4 HH and fleet, and us picking off targets
I might have some footage of it still, I'll have to dig it up later
honestly I feel the Polaris just functions as a better HH

with alot more potential
I'd believe it
STARKITTEN POLARIS SKIN!?
Is that actually real or just visual glitch
Cause even the windows are tinted no excuse now why we canāt get concept paint
I counted what I assume to be nearly 50 on Jav.
Dumb fire drive by is the polaris meta
That is a stupid meta. Valid for Retaliator but Polaris? No thx.\
Polaris isn't on sale yet is it? -- surely that's on RSI day a few days from now
They better get to buffing 
PDCs need some tuning I feel. Their prioritisation is good but they swap to priority targets too fast which makes swarming and overwhelming them with other missiles too difficult and you can idle your capships without worry about Torps at all.
With PDCs working the way they are, torps could probably afford a speed buff as well
Not really. Torps just need to be better.
And making the whole idea of stealth relevant to detection and countering of torps
???
Problem with torps is they are either too strong, or too weak - too easy to counter, they are useless. Too hard to counter, they are overpowered
yer
See some people saying the polaris is strong asf even with it's s3 turrets, we'll see if that stays true once we have another military cap ship - i think s3 on a cap is a joke, when "armor" is in i don't see s3's doing any damage.
And dumbfiring isn't really a valid stratergy, as we see CIG trying to curb it at every given chance - meaning they dont know what to do with the s10 torps
The S3s are at the sides and rear and more for swatting lighter craft. The frontal firepower it the 2x Quad S4s and double S6s.
You can get the S3s on the nose target closer up but they're not positioned well for concentrating firepower in my experience.
S3's on the side do nothing to the craft who are hiding in the engine blindspot, where ironically we need more firepower against fighters we get a missile turret with lock range..
There's nothing really on the Polaris for hitting the side-rear blindspots, the main saving grace is that the convergence on the side arcs means you can try to hit them before they close.
Also, why not hop in an F7A MK2 instead of the side turrets? you'll be better able to cover your polaris with fighter escorts then wasting a slot on the size 3's
The f7a's will also deal more dmg then the quad s3's to other cap ships
With a big enough crew you can have both. We'll also have to see how AI blading those turrets works as well or if it's only for remote turrets.
Though with enough resources/ships having minimum viable crew in multiple larger ships is generally better.
Don't really need both, if i have someone with an f7a mk2 i'll just have them sit in that, and have the quad s4's and the s6 be manned in the polaris
And how the Rearm/Resupply works and if it'll affect our ability to fit double F7 Mk2s in the hangar.
it's a downgrade to have someone on the size 3's, is what im saying
Maybe, but atleast the f7a's can run on energy weapons if that becomes an issue
I think it'll depend on how active some roles are. If you're carrying ground folk to an enemy org base for an assault or something, the spare bodies can man the guns. Or if engineering isn't super heavy until you start taking damage then they can man the gun first.
Might also vary if the adjustments from the engineering playtest come in, where lower size weapons had higher RoF and faster projectile velocity which actually made them better at killing fighters than the cannons.
Again none of these things are adressing the main concern. As a torpedo boat, the polaris is great. as troop/vehicle transport, it's great
but it's not a capital ship
It's more akin to the perseus
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Well not the Torpedo boat at the moment.
Not until PDs get tuned anyway
I don't think torpedo gameplay will ever be viable, sadly
It might work occasionally or with stealth
Yeah I saw that when it came up and I already had the Polaris ccu-ed at that point.
It's worth noting some context which was that at that point the Polaris they'd showed us had been significantly down-gunned from the initial concept, and that was a response to the backlash of it's gunfire getting dumped.
But those things engines light up like a christmas tree - and i can confidently say, they will never make it OP because no one wants a "button press to win" situation
Right now I feel PDs are too efficient in terms of prioritisation and accuracy.
They need to be slightly easier to overwhelm with like swarms of smaller missiles or give us tools to jam them. Higher size Rattlers or Missiles that detonate into jamming chaff.
Aye, that's true. But it's not capable of standing up to even just the Idris P
I say as of now just leave torps as an after thought, occasionally used under certain circumstances, and just up gun Polaris itās glass without up gunning and would fill its role as glass cannon with up gunning
If i had any hope of the torps working, i wouldn't mind the guns as much
Nah, it's a missile/torp Corvette. The Torps need to be the key system.
In an ideal world that'd be great
but it wont happen
If we get more Rattler/Swarm missile sizes and they're a valid way to overwhelm PDs it'd be alright I feel. You need wingmen launching it for an Eclipse or Retaliator, but can launch it from the Polaris itself with the nose mounted racks.
Loadouts and payload choices should matter for dealing with different craft.
I don't think they can balance the s10 torps, if there's a way (even if its a it difficult) to guarantee it will land, you can deal 3M dmg in just a single salvo
I think CIG is weary of this
I mean it was originally pitched as fat retaliator, but I guess someone at cig realized that just isnāt gonna work and Polaris would be gimmick ship, and the rework Polaris had significant up gunning then CR probably got involved and said no I want fat retaliator and we all saw at last citcon that itās loadout looked pathetic so they up gunned it alittle to what it is now
Yeah that's true. But there needs to be ways to increase the chances
If they made the Idris Railgun shot able to be intercepted by way of PDC's, I think alot of people would see why the polaris is in such a bad state right now
Via teamwork and equipment.
This is the goal of any cap ship honestly
And right now, you're better off bringing smaller ships to a cap ship fight
The ONE thing, that is "OP" about polaris currently, is its health
it has insane staying power
Which is weird, cause it shouldn't have against other cap ships
Yea but I doubt idris or jav as military cap ships would require as much babying as Polaris to be effective
But health will be a after thought when engineering comes
big turrets is the way, and idris P which is the "lightest" version of it has min. s5's
I'll reserve my judgement about that until engineering is anything tangible
Jav has loadout and size 12 torps
Idris has loadout massive hangar and size 10 rail gun
Polaris has torps and built in weaknesses
Balancing ships for a future we know little about is not really helpful
Words can't describe how bummed i am to not have some kind of dynamic between idris/polaris
Once idris comes out in 2 years (if sq42 actually releases then) if polaris has no upgunning it'll be a victim š
So many people have the idris m and k
the guns on the polaris isn't so much an isssue right now, since there's no armor and not really any other cap ships to fight, but it will be
do you think they'll change the pilot gun on the idris to a second seat? 
Probably not
yeah and the only downside is sustainability
they should do if they did it to corsair and polaris
lazy way to increase multicrew crew count
same with fuses being kinda lazy too
engineering could be fun if done like it is in barotrauma
My Fellow POLARI Owners, i haven't had a chance to chat in here since the Polly was released on the PTU to the PU... and let me just share - how FUCKING AWESOME this ship is - for both a Solo player and for team play. On these Stanton missions it has been a freakin great - give and take a few standard SC frustrations...
CIG if you ever read these chats - what a fucking stellar job this POLARIS is... just AMAZING...!
This man been out of the loop with this chat
you guys just expect the world
Don't mind the people crying that after waiting years for their "can do everything" ship it isn't utterly broken in every way possible till it can single handedly take on a Javelin. God forbid let the man enjoy his ship lmao.
I literally lose braincells reading the most utterly mind boggling statements here, glad y'all have no say in the development of this game.
God forbid balance is a thing. Not that they are doing it well right now though tbh. We need the gameplay feature to all be in before that though.
Balance? In an alpha ?.š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Simply gold comedic material
just need more power pips snd more ammo for the missile turret and s6
people saying it needs up gunning more
idk about that
also iām really excited for captains room
I will be waiting patiently for this ship to not have a balance pass when idris comes out - And then the "its an alpha" crowd will be quiet 

i doubt it will get a balance pass
if they made the polaris better the idris wouldnāt be as attractive when it comes out
which is bad for their business in selling idrisesesseses
if they really wanted my money they wouldnāt sell all 3 idris stock in 10 seconds 
Ain't that the truth
Idris is only more attractive due to carrier capabilities otherwise Polaris is best military cap for a players
also the main gun is like way better than the torpedos
because yknow
itās actually gonna land
turrets are better i think they will get up sized as well
Idris P has no S10 gun plus spinal mounted gun on such big ship will suffer at tracking nimbler targets
you donāt use it for nimble targets

tell that to NPC they tried hit me with it while i was flying 600i

if you own an idris you would be doing a K/M mix
K weaponry and M railgun
maybe the K stuff on an M chassis if it has more armour
i know you can upgrade your K/P to M with shipyards
but thatās a long way out
You're insane if you think a polaris is better then an idris
Even the P version has better guns and health, and we can assume armor
Torps don't land and there is currently 0 word from CIG how they are going to balance torps
So i will lean on them just being a gimmick
Polaris still has many built in weaknesses no point in not letting it lean more into glass cannon role considering the torps will be very situational meaning Polaris is just glorified transport ship best armed cargo ship in game currentlyā¦.. until idris comes
yeah
Idris is also a frigate with 1.5 to 2x the crew requirement of the Polaris.
has anybody had their own torps just explode in front of them for no apparent reason? i've been having that bug when playing with a friend
torp gets shot and just explodes in a single second damaging the entire ah ship, had a 1.6M repair bill
yep
donāt forget it
Did you try it against the idris? The pdc's on it will take out your torps immediately if youre within 2000m
i think the torp is fired then desyncs backwards into the ship
happened to me once
i saw it like glitch and jitter back
it was really strange
into the torp hole
no we were torping the ground kek
yeah mine basically hit the cockpit kinda, that's what i thought happened with desync but just wanted to ask still
Absolutely. I don't think anyone who wants the polaris to be stronger wants it to contend directly with the idris in a slugfest! But as it stands right now it will be a victim to an idris with no counters. Unless CIG will upgun it later or offer some "miltary upgrade" bullshit, I dont see even 2-3 polarises winning against an idris M currently
Once armor is in, s3's i assume will deal 0 damage to cap sized ships
I'd be surprised if s4's did any meaningful damage, so that leaves just one puny little s6 gun
Polarises is designed to use s10 torps against Idris and not guns
Have fun trying to do that
Would be awesome if it would work, but it won't
CIG is horrified of torpedo meta
But during rework cig wanted Polaris to be more then just a torp boat, Polaris with decent loadout would still lose to idris in brawling match cause of bad turret coverage and weaker then normal cap armor, literally no point in not letting it lean more into glass cannon
Like come on Polaris is already getting into brawling range in order to dumb fire itās torps, and itās gonna be funny watching Polaris rush player idris 10 size 10 rail gun
i think if it just got some better turrets it'd be fine as it is
The lil' missile turret is a waste of space and we should be able to replace it
Hell i'd take a quad s2 over that trash
guys get your wallets Idris and Javelin WB are still buyable
Cig finally reaching the limit of whales
Unironically the lack of captains quarters and overall piss poor balance for a literal capital ship has made me decide to go for Carrack. I like the Polaris a lot and might eventually return but the interior while nice feels a bit boring. The power pips situation is unacceptable IMO when we have a whole ass nuclear reactor in the back. It just needs some more tweaks. I dont want it to be soloable OP but I want it to be strong when fully crewed and it just doesnt feel that way.
I'm holding onto mine for now at least - it's still good fun to fly it. I just don't see it being competitive in the long run when the next cap ship absolutely will body it
Ironically since we got retaliator jank torpedoes, I hope we can eventually switch things around so we can have smth useful instead
I'll be so mad if the rumors that it's just a better 'deemer is true
?
Honestly between all the noise it's impossible to differentiate 
I'll be happy if this is true
I'd be jumping ship to perseus so fast if it wasn't for the Q&A on it about the turrets hitting like "the ares and ion" or smth like that
Nothing could scare me off more then that.. but by design it's the best looking ship out there imo
Perseus is honestly best looking ship
And it's not even close
Why? Where is it?
Smh smh š
well I guess we better enjoy it and get the most out of it before the real caps arrive and turn it into fatter carrack
Should I get rid of mine?
I mean itās fine for now but when real caps come Polaris becomes best armed cargo ship perfect for outrunning bigger threats
Sure herc could out run the bigger threats to but Polaris would have to beef to survive the occasional random pirate attack and escape as long as they donāt have quantum jammer
Except itās slow.
Compared to idris and Jav should still be fast
Idris and Jav will probably end up getting speed nerf when they come
Idris has a 1 tap gun and Polaris has less guns than Hammerhead most of which are smaller.
22 on Polaris vs 24 on Hammerhead. And the Hammerhead has more big guns as well.
Tbh hh could probably take a Polaris in brawling match knock out that nose turret and Polaris become hammerhead play thing
Polaris nose turret is pretty easy to disable one hh turret running ballistic probably could do it
Too much what? Itās Torpedos are a non consideration.
What is it anyways?
Two hits took an Auroras shields down to⦠half. Itās rear left wing was red but still.
Where? What video?
Cig version of cap warfare makes Polaris irrelevant, if youāre able to strip a cap of its defenses then you donāt even need any additional firepower like Polaris, just finish it off
You mean the part where they said āsend in fighter swarm to disable PD?ā
I just finished this.
Also agreed.
The Tali and Eclipse can't also run refueling/rearming support for the fighters or hold craft for boarding tbf
So⦠Retaliator and Eclipse meta?
And the Polaris isnāt small enough to get close without getting railed.
Though neither of those gameloops are properly in yet either.
At that point bring idris better defended better offense and bigger hangar to support fighters
Something to keep in mind with the railgun is we don't really know how it'll work once maelstrom and damage get reworked.
Odds are a slower firing precision ballistic will snipe out components/depressurise components and compartments without dealing lots of hull damage, and something like the Javelins rows of M9s are better suited for wearing away hull and killing.
We've had pretty wild paradigm changes in the past due to mechanic reworks.
That sounds very powerful.
Me personally after carrack update thats where im headed for the time being. Gonna have all of Pyro to explore so a carrack with a razor ex, lynx, and a nox will be plenty. The med bay looks and feels so much cooler and ill have my captainās quarters
Who knows maybe they make Polaris feel meaningful eventually. If that happens ill happily come back but until then gold standard carrack it is
I mean even if Polaris sucks as a military cap, it does excel at being fatter carrack, literally does everything a carrack does but better
It does on the surface but the interior of the Polaris feels lifeless
Idk imma test the carrack out when its rentable for iae but im fairly certain im gonna switch temporarily
Youre right the polaris can just be a bigger better carrack and that was my plan
But no cap quarters feels really bad having to log in the bunks. Med bay feels super boring to me as well. That paired with carracks goated ass pilot seat view
I know everyone thinks Iām wrong but I really liked smooth panel Polaris more
Kind of agree. Also wish yellow windows
God two tone grey with yellow glass
If they dont release that paint at IAE or at the least by 4.0 theyre cooked
Idk if it was visual glitch but Iāve been seeing people post pink paint for Polaris with pinkish tinted windows
Gonna be salty if thatās like a hidden 4th paint they add instead of two tone grey with yellow tint glass
I personally really like the Polaris interior, and the Hangar is more usable for me than the Carrack.
This isn't to say the Polaris doesn't need more work though, the Medical room is too empty and needs some shelves and medical thingamabobs.
Armoury needs some form of locker storage as well, you have all these guns but nothing to store ammo in.
It's not in any of the pitch/existing information but I'd love if the Polaris as a military ship also got blast shields for extra armour to that big juicy cockpit.
Nope nope nope, I do not want loaded guns in easy reach of whoever gets chucked in there.
It might be usable for NPC bounty missions if you're willing to pull out the massive capship just to pick up two criminals.
But logically weapon racks shouldn't be in easy reach of the prisoners.
Stick some lockers or shelves or something
More internal storage good.
Then he can use the weapon he grabbed from the armoury lmao
Storage only being in the bunks isn't great.
Give us a locker for ammo in the armoury and another for all our medical stuff in the medbay.
We'll also have to see what sort of crafting utilities ships get.
I could easily see the kitchen areas most ships have getting the nutrition crafting things built in.
Having a crafting/printing station for fuses and other simple engineering repair stuff (like the RCM prints for multitool SRT canisters) in Engineering would go a long way towards adding utility to some segments.
And it's not like we don't have stretches of the hallway which don't have anything in them yet.
Anyone else constantly have troubles getting the elevator to work when entering the Polaris from the ground?
I can't be the only one 
Are you looking at the ground call point or the top button?
And yes, it generally takes a while and multiple inputs before the elevator comes down
Fine for me, just have to call it at the appropriate location
Top. I've tried just about every spot to open it.
Polaris needs those laser/light on the ground that the Reclaimer and 890 have
My still unanswered question is how do you bedlog in the polaris?
Yeah you can't reach that button from the ground easily. Look down and move around and there's a prompt to call the elevator down from the ground level
I will try this
In the crew quarters. You'll need to hold F, then Right click on the closer bed log button.
Wow. That worked first try!
You might need to remove your armour to bedlog, and the text may not pop up but it's one of the quadrants.
I'm not going to say how much time in the last few days I have spent trying to open that elevator.
It's very embarrassing.
The log out option never appears
Would be nice for them to just add the Captain Quarters already. It's legit just a room what so complicated about it?
Yep, you can open the side ramps this way too, but finding the call spot is difficult
Right click on the button.
Look at the test from the front.
It's judging how far the ramps extend out as the call text appears at the base, once you're familiar with them it's easier to find, but the entry markers tend to jump around and bug out.
Oof.
It's an easy enough fix, but in my experience the "cargo door" text tends to appear inside the cargo hold or on the eva button when you pull the Polaris up.
Fun fact, the Polaris side turrets have a clear view of the entirety of the ramp down. They're pretty great at providing overwatch for a combat dismount.
Yeah those turrets are in a great spot for watching the ramp 100%
Do we know what time the Polaris will go on sale tomorrow? š
4pm for me
UTC
Tuesday
⣠IAE 2954 - Day 5
⣠RSI Polaris Q&A Comm-Link
⣠Lore Post: Galactapedia Update
gonna be one spicy q&a
I have demands!
Very excited for RSI day q and a..
same
RIP Polaris with some bite crazy that it seems like the top, nose and sides look size 5 at one point
PUT IT BACK!!!
I specifically told them not to change it but somebody said they looked āugly.ā
Those top turrets were so cool and unique
Today is the day!
Polaris won't be hull limited correct? So on sale all during RSI event today and tomorrow?
Wow just caught up on the thread and so much Polaris hate!
How about the people out there that are still hyped, love it, and are looking forward to it.c
I guess lots of them are already out there flying theirs. Not in this channel anymore.
It got fucked over pretty good
"Hate" is a strong word, i like my polaris. But i most likely wont be keeping it for the long term - Unless they announce they will change it when the "real" capital ships come in the game š We'll see what they have to say today in the polaris q n a
The only thing that is "capital" about the Polaris is it's health pool imo
Yea nobody hates Polaris here
We just worry about its future when the other caps come in
Fair
Then I guess maybe trade up/melt if need be
But for now it seems ....just amazing
I love the sound of the thrusters
omg
Absolutely moisture inducing
Anyone see buying options available yet for the Polaris?
Yeah definitely agree on the interior
But exterior is easily the best ship in the game right now
But hopefully it kind of gets....gold pass type thing at some point and at least we get captians quarters and refuel/repair in hangar
HOLY BALLS -- $975
good lord come on Chris
975 dollars jeesus
With massive torpedoes designed to take out much larger ships, a small-craft hangar, and a military-standard med bay, the Polaris is capable of single-handedly keeping your local star system safe and secure.
Get in the fight: play.sc/polaris
Roberts Space Industries is a spacecraft manufacturer withi...
So why is one 850 and one 975?
no
So there's no difference between the 850 and 975?
ye
there is
the more expensive one you can use store credit to buy
the cheaper you cant
gameplay wise yes there is no difference, the only difference is how you buy it
the new paints r fire
OK so the cheaper one is just with cold hard new cash
Where is the Q and A tho
Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.
nvm found it
General Grievous: Time to abandon ship
From Star Wars Episode III
Bummed about the q n a. What are your thoughts?
The Polaris trailer is too cool for me to have an unbiased take
How long does it sometimes take for ships to appear in your online Hangar after purchase? Money was def taken out of my account....no Polaris in hangar š¦
Instantly⦠contact CIG
what.
You go to hangar and refresh it should be instant
It isn't there
Money was taken out 100%?
AHHHHH yep
Can anything just be easy?
It means itās pending for them to receive the money since itās a HUGE AMOUNT, assuming for Polaris?
Yeye itās just cus itās a huge amount of money
So the bank gotta authorize it
I assume being patient is the way to be
If it doesnāt appear in 30 mins contact cig you can dm me if you need help or tag me
Though Iām about to get off a train š
OK thanks Mel...what's the best way to get a hold of CIG :/
Basically go to their FAQ site and press ācontact usā
I think it is xd
not true since the 22 dollar paint i bought with store credit took 10 mins to get into my account
Might as well have made it $999
This page is the only way I assume: https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000074074
I ccuād mine for 400 š
Yup
Brb getting off a train
Thanks!
Np man
Iāve been on holiday for 3 weeks and didnāt get to try out my Polaris yet :ā)
Canāt wait to get home tomorrow
Issue solved! Just took about 15 mins for them to "verify" -- Thx Mel
Lmk if you run into issues but donāt stress it happened to me before too, in my case it was because the bank saw it as a suspicious amount of money to be used at once so needed authorization from CIG I contacted them and got it sorted super quickly
Ofc man anytime 
dang q&a was a let down
Yeah sure was
maybe during a IAE episode they will do some hard questions
Doubt it at this point
Oi polaris nerds, what does the concierge paint for the polaris look like?
They do state that it's still subject to change though, so small hopium
black with alittle yellow trimming
looks like the blue and yellow one but the blue is black
Image?
literally fire
Incredible skin tbh
Zamn, aight time to grab that from the market
kinda wished the blue didnt have the yellow trim
Now just wondering when they're gonna add in the captains quarters
no
Looks like the Zeus CL
its set for next major update
Announced?
q&a
zeus cl xl
confirmed polaris is just fatter zeus
The $225 price increase caught me off guard lmao
defo turned out better than the leaks
does wonders for the savings though
the paint i really wanted
The yellow glass is cool
Other then that i actually like what we got more

looks like the only thing that changed from leaks was them adding yellow to the black
This is just the one we got on display last IAE minus the pee stained windows
i knew it would be 900-975 it was obvious
shouldve grabbed that nautilus to polaris ccu last year newgens!
definitely a ship not worth 975
at that point for new buyers just bite the bullet and get idris
yeah well look at HH, 890j and idris 
percy probably gonna be 750-800 as well
undeserving of that price
Not everyone is gonna want to join the f5 war
yep, that will also get a price hike when it comes out
its easy to get a credit idris
thats wat im saying if you spending new money just bite the bullet and get idris before its price increase
Not wrong there it's just 25 more lol
8am wave 3 i literally just refreshed once and got it on mobile
How, exactly?
hit refresh > click idris > click add to cart
didnt even try
Friend of mine lost it in the first second despite having it in cart
people over exaggerate how hard it is
yea whales are done so idris is starting to feed down to normies
Idk i honestly believe its either bots or just luck that gets you it
most already have 30 in buybacks
i got 2
Not any new cap ships to shop for (luckily)
I hope we dont get any more cap ships until launch in 2040
same
Oh the trailer is just the polaris trashing the idris lol
Wish i could send gifs
ngl was absolute cinema but wont ever happen unless really lucky that PDCs are so desynced dont even see it coming or you destroy the idris PDCs first
we watch the same trailer cause polaris inside was getting wrecked and then it shot 4 torps at idris with no pdc lol
trailer was good they got good marketing team as always
shrek "like that'll ever happen"
can we get the game the marketing team has access to
SQ42
so.. soontm?
welp see you bois in 2027
2 + 2 is 4 so its 2028
I mean if you manage to knockout a few PDCs on the idris and strike from a blind spot it can technically disable it in one volley
But by then you'd already need other forces to take down the shields then the PDCs
You better hope that idris left the size 10 railgun and the size 7's at home then
Don't shoot torps from 6 miles away that's just asking for target practice
if you have the firepower to strip idris of its defenses then you already won just finish it off leave polaris at home bring more light craft to make it even easier
realistically polaris will be okay until idris or larger or a large group of torp bombers is around then you leave



