Polaris Palooza

[mossy yoke]

would be fun, if orga could not only paid bounty and piracy on eschother, even better pay infiltration spionage and sabotage...

ganked inside your ship... new lvl of fun...

every ship can selfdestruct right... hm

[rigid brook]

Easy don’t invite people aboard who you don’t know

[mossy yoke]

great no one will let me play gunner seat now lol

[rigid brook]

Uh make friends?

[halcyon estuary]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/a-quick-note-to-our-solo-players/7315310

So, firstly sorry for the slow response. I have unsurprisingly been very busy post citcon with 4.0 and Q1 initiatives.

Secondly, I wanted to reassure everyone that AI blades are part of the 1.0 plan - they will not be as effective as other players and they will take additional power to run. We will also be offering a way of upgrading them through tiers but again they will never be as good as a good player.

Also as they also provide most of the functionality, NPC crew will most likely be a post 1.0 plan.

As I said in the presentation, Star Citizen is a universe that caters to all players - and that most definitely includes solo players. As with all games some things will more suitable to solo than group play and vice versa.

With that said, I better get back to work as I have two games to ship for you all.

[clear stag]

What I’m most excited about is just seeing how many and what type of snubs and vehicles can shove inside the beautiful baby

[untold gorge]

lmaoooooooo

so were never getting 1.0

[sharp raven]

Ew ai

[clear stag]

Man I’m excited

especially to finally have a home

[hallow rose]

I dont think the polaris comes with AI blades, does it ?

We may have to human crew or npc crew :<

Npc crew may be a 2.0 thing xD

So... 15-20 years from now

[mossy yoke]

because polaris has old bad CPU, which cant talk to Blades?

[west imp]

Polaris has 2 remote turrets

Also, it has lots of computers

Last I checked at least

I think 8?

[sharp raven]

Where, what, huh?

What are you calling computers?

Its got 5 seats in the bridge

4 of which actually do something

The middle is the captains chair

Which doesn’t serve a major purpose

[west imp]

those aren't computers

as in

computers=cpu in this case

[green herald]

I do wonder what the price will go up to

[west imp]

I'm guessing 950

it won't hit 1000

[green herald]

I'm hoping for a max of 900, I can tank it going up to 850 if I'm using store cred

850 seems reasonable

900 I wouldn't be surprised

[fierce arrow]

So it’s still 2? Very good!

[green herald]

😔

If i have to melt my zeus.... 😔

I'm already ditching my pers for it smh

[fierce arrow]

No limited but LTI would be good.

[green herald]

actually i might be able to shuffle properly to move my zeus over to an LTI

actually nvm because zeus and vulture same price but i forgor buyback exists so yea

i mean guys I can solo a polaris right?

🦍

[fierce arrow]

Yes.

[halcyon estuary]

2?

[fierce arrow]

Soulsinger isn’t a game.

[halcyon estuary]

I linked to a comment about blades and AI on spectrum, I am a bit out of the loop...

[fierce arrow]

They said they have 2 games to publish. Referencing Star Citizen and Sq42. This confirms that Soulsinger is not a game.

[halcyon estuary]

Context is king, Rich T. is only working on 2 games:

With that said, I better get back to work as I have two games to ship for you all.

Back on topic, if blades are introduced for 1.0, would this allow one to to have torpedo's in a Polaris to be managed by it or just simple gun turrets?

[fierce arrow]

The torpedos have to be physically loaded by hand so probably not.

[halcyon estuary]

Target acquisition is what I am hinting at.

If that work flow was automated, fast human torpedo loading would win wars.

[fierce arrow]

Yes pls.

[fathom ruin]

totally got both polaris and starlancer tac for the fleet

i feel like polaris will be my the head of my feel followed by the tac and then maybe my taurus /mixed fighters

[spice cliff]

I wanted the lancer cus firefly but i cant budget a new ship and no way in hell im dropping the polaris right before its supposed release

[fierce arrow]

Wait for the BLD anyways.

[untold gorge]

what? they havent mentioned soulsinger at all

why would they mention it as a 3rd game when the name hasnt even been spoken yet

[hallow rose]

arent we glad us polaris owners didnt get shafted like Galaxy owners xDDD fewf

we dodged a bullet

[coral rover]

Galaxy wasn't planned to come out before the Polaris anyway

[hallow rose]

Fewf xD

[clear stag]

I was on the fence about mine anyway just don’t know what to upgrade it to anymore

Polaris is home either way

[hallow rose]

Polaris gonna be the new 890/carrack ship in SC Atleast for a year

Gonna see tones of them about i bet when it comes out

(Excluding rentals)

[weak hill]

Im hyped asf for polaris, I cant wait to see the 100 Polari' flying around during IAE cause of rentals

[west imp]

I can’t wait to salvage new Babbage

We ain’t seen profit margins like these since the vulture first released

[weak hill]

STONKS

[real hemlock]

When do we think it'll go on sale and how quickly will it sell out?

And thoughts on final price next month?

[fierce arrow]

Its not hull limited, first day.

[fierce arrow]

$950.

[real hemlock]

First day of IAE and unlimited amount throughout the event?

[fierce arrow]

Yiss.

[real hemlock]

Oh no kidding. Then it won't be on sale I assume for some time after the event? I heard some say it will sell out in seconds.

[fierce arrow]

It isn’t hull limited.

And so can’t sell out.

[real hemlock]

Thanks a ton. Where did you get that info btw. Also, after IAE it won't be on sale anymore right?

[west imp]

It’s not going to go over 1000, so it won’t be hull limited

And there should be a new war bond price in the future

I’d assume something like 850-875?

[fierce arrow]

Correct. It’s only on sale at IAE and Invictus. The info is from other years where it has been on sale and non hull limited.

[real hemlock]

Appreciate it.

[main violet]

i cant wait to have to drive 10 miles in my hangar

[fierce arrow]

Not again!

[coral rover]

Idk man, I think its need more ERA

[weak hill]

I actually dont mind Polaris not being hull limited, if someone wants to pay the launch/post launch price instead of the concept price I paid more power to em. Plus I doubt itll be sold often. Im thinking just as often as something like the carrack tbh which isnt often tbh

[west imp]

the polaris will easily be the most popular capital ship in game

even if all capital ships weren't hull limited, it would still be the most popular

packs a good punch, and requires a very small crew

same size crew as a hammerhead really

[scarlet jungle]

It was 12am and I couldn't sleep. Plus I couldn't find one already made on Google so I just made it. 3/5 effort

I also made that from a phone

[coral rover]

You ball

[fair haven]

i bought a polaris!!!!!

[hallow rose]

How ?

[hallow rose]

It wont sell out, its not a timed exclusive ship. Its gonna be open the whole time for purchase when its RSI day

[hallow rose]

Wonder how much it will be during IAE, my guess is 750 warbond, 800 regular.

[west imp]

it's gonna be much higher than 800 regular......

[brazen eagle]

atm yes but i belive BMM is more popular

[weak hill]

Id bet it pushes 900 if not 1000

[brazen eagle]

better question is will it be CCU-able

[coral rover]

If it's hull limited probably not

[fierce arrow]

$950. They wouldn’t want to have to give it LTI and make it hull limited now would they?

[opaque rain]

nah

idris my friend

[west imp]

really doubt idris is more popular than the polaris when the idris is hull limited

people can buy as many polaris' as they want given it's the right time of the year

[rigid brook]

i think cig is gonna regret taking polaris off limited hull when 3.24.3 drops lol

[west imp]

the servers are gonna be on fire

[opaque rain]

you said if all cap ships weren't hull limited

that means if idris was ccuable

it's simply been around longer than the polaris

[west imp]

you know what

you are right

I am so stupid

yeah, idris would probably take the place

[opaque rain]

yea

i mean bmm might still be more popular, idk

bmm owners might just be too old right now kek

[sage rover]

I melted my bmm for the polaris last year when they stopped working on it.

[opaque rain]

you did, that shits older than some of sc players

who knows, they're probably too old to talk about their virtual spaceships from 10 years ago on an internet forum now

[fierce arrow]

It was always meant to be.

It's here!

[weak hill]

Crazy bait

[fierce arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-trial-crazy-evil-ill-fucking-do-it-again-gif-17111514

[opaque rain]

i hope your entire ass family has a great christmas

[fierce arrow]

Thx!

[opaque rain]

fml im committing to the polaris i need friends now

[brazen eagle]

https://imgflip.com/i/98avyb

[scarlet jungle]

I'ma steal this for a sec. Wanna toss into the main chat and see who bites

Caught three, not bad

[brazen eagle]

nice catch

[opaque rain]

im a solo player therefore i need polaris

[frank lily]

WHO'S EXCITED....!!!!!

[main violet]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-meme-memes-gif-24277198

[gray flower]

Im so ready to do idris hunts in my Polaris

[main violet]

im ready for the me and 2 buds of us to think we can man this beast by our lonesome

[west imp]

honestly, have him run the torps and just shotgun AI bounties lmao

[clear stag]

I’m more worried how much resupply is going to cost claim timers are def going to be above an hour

wtf

hahahahha

This is going to be ridiculous

[weak hill]

Honestly I kinda agree

[fierce arrow]

I know this is a really bad thing but as a Solo player? It seems kinda good. Thoughts?

[frank lily]

Fuck yea Bois

Wooot

[dense grotto]

Do you think they’re gonna release the Polaris early in PTU?

[somber pivot]

2 or 3 day before maybe

[fierce arrow]

Hopefully yes.

[weak hill]

God dude, I cant contain the excitement for the Polaris is hurts

JUST GIVE ME POLARIS PLEASEEEE

[spice cliff]

You can contain it, just remind yourself that until it drops, its not TRULY dropping

[opaque rain]

NOT going to apply my chain until engineering is implememted into polaris

[fierce arrow]

Why...? That makes things more difficult.

[civic sage]

time to dogfight with the polaris

[scarlet jungle]

Time to touch tips in the Polaris

Wait. I have an idea

[opaque rain]

exactly

[fierce arrow]

Then why??

We want things go be easier!

[opaque rain]

if engineering makes it impossible to use as a base, then i don't want it

[fierce arrow]

Oh. Well enjoy it while it lasts I guess?

[opaque rain]

nah

[fierce arrow]

Any base sized ship is realistically going to need NPCs.

[opaque rain]

not until 1.0

which im confident is another 3 years at least

so I'd rather wait the extra 6 months, and at 1.0 I'll get npcs

[fierce arrow]

Also agreed.

[opaque rain]

if after engineering i don't get polaris, idm. by that point I'll wait for galaxy

and ironclad will be 6 months out. not as capable as a polaris in some ways but idc

[fierce arrow]

Both of those are still engineering sized.

[opaque rain]

neither are cap

they're larg ships

not cap

plus they're not military ships, cig might just have that have some effect on engineering

the sensible thing would be to make "military" ships way more reliable anyway but this is cig

[fierce arrow]

I think its military grade components.

I’m running Civilian A when engineering releases.

[fierce arrow]

More reliable but also higher maintenance.

[opaque rain]

i mean i don't expect engineering to be a big deal unless you "overclock" your parts or take the ship into combat, but imma hold out regardless

[opaque rain]

maintenance i can deal with, I'll underclock and keep spares around

[fierce arrow]

I do.

I assume I will need 3 or so people to play Fuse Runner but we will see.

[opaque rain]

i feel like engineering will purely be a way to get more out of your ship if you need and repair it after combat

or during

otherwise unless you go idris/jav size and bigger it'll probably be something you do once and don't touch again unless you do combat or want to OC

[fierce arrow]

During…

[opaque rain]

and it's a reason to keep spares around, just in case

[fierce arrow]

Me, Combat Pilot:

[opaque rain]

^

[fierce arrow]

I mean, what else do people really do?

[opaque rain]

i want the polarii to be my base

[fierce arrow]

But then I need other humans.

[fierce arrow]

Same.

I will torpedo Nori.

Don’t tell Nori.

[opaque rain]

i mean, put supplies, vics and smaller ships into it and spam merc missions

that's what im gonna use mine for

maybe twice a month crew it and do combat

[fierce arrow]

Merc missions? Like what?

[opaque rain]

bunkers, clearing out the hostile areas, etc

[fierce arrow]

That is ground. Why do you need an entire Polaris for ground?

[opaque rain]

for hostiles and whatnot I'll either take the snub and go kill turrets, use a rover, or I'll just go into one of the turrets and kill, shields will easily tank

[opaque rain]

to have everything in it

that's what i do already

i mean i used to do when i was playing

[fierce arrow]

890J has better shields.

[fierce arrow]

That… could be done better with an 890J which has twice as many shields.

[opaque rain]

polaris better tho

first of all, 890 is ugly so that's reason enough

[fierce arrow]

Fake news.

[fierce arrow]

Also fake news.

[opaque rain]

polaris has more cargo iirc and hangar might be slightly bigger iirc but the main draw is polaris has way better functionality

like the elevator between hangar and cargo, and the hangar having refueling and rearming and stuff

[fierce arrow]

890J looks significantly better than Polaris. Also, is it’s Bridge a getaway ship because it looks kinda disconnected.

[fierce arrow]

The hangar is shorter.

[fierce arrow]

Mayhaps. But so what?

It might be a little bit more functional.

[opaque rain]

it's a QOL

way more functional for me

way easier to transfer the cargo from your snub into the cargo deck

[opaque rain]

you're wrong

origin is ugly

[opaque rain]

eh idc

[fierce arrow]

Literally look at the Polaris.

[fierce arrow]

What snubs hold cargo??

[opaque rain]

i'm not a fan of the polaris looks, but the 890 is way worse

[opaque rain]

you can probably fit stuff in there with cargo

you could fit a vulture in there. c8x, mpuv, cutter, maybe titan. i had done the fit things on hangar.link but i don't remember

[fierce arrow]

No it is not.

It’s also bigger.

[opaque rain]

you're objectively wrong

[opaque rain]

bigger is not always better

[fierce arrow]

Fake news. I am definitively correct.

[fierce arrow]

Yes it is.

[opaque rain]

nope, origin is ass

and i am not an ass guy

[opaque rain]

you're wrong

[fierce arrow]

Does this scare you?

[fierce arrow]

No comment.

[opaque rain]

i'm not scared of sub-par overpriced garbage

[fierce arrow]

I bet it will never break down.

[opaque rain]

i don't care it's ugly

[fierce arrow]

[rigid brook]

Can’t wait to use Polaris-Max

[mossy yoke]

hm well starlancer TAC has all, only torps are missing, no?

[amber breach]

I think the Polaris will be hull limited

there was a brief time they had it hull limited in the past too

[rigid brook]

Nah they already sold so many but it’ll probably go up to 950

[real hemlock]

I've been told by quite a few people it won't be hull limited. I don't know that though.

Price probably 850-950

[rigid brook]

Hopefully a further up gun see’s the re-concept top sexy turrets make a return

[hallow rose]

First thing im gonna do with my polaris, is camp out NB and S10 torp people who leave in a polaris. Cuz, yay xD

[rigid brook]

Until the pdc shoot down torps

[amber breach]

Idk, I think they'll want to kill the ability to CCU to it

They'll probably announce another Polaris sized ship that you can CCU to though

[rigid brook]

Oh yeah Perseus but better

Perseus but bigger with 2 triple barrel size 7 turrets front of bridge and 1 triple barrel size 7 turret behind the bridge, big blind spot on its belly and galaxy type hangar between the engines in the back

Walmart discount battleship or I guess Walmart discount mini bengal cruiser variant

Polaris is corvette that attacks from range and Perseus XL corvette for brawling

[scarlet jungle]

Soon

I'm not sure if that patch is the one of iae or to clean up cit con's stuff

[hallow rose]

Probobly to clean up citcon patch problems

[scarlet jungle]

[upper fjord]

ITS COMING! I can’t wait for the trailer!!!

[proper junco]

we re finally in the same month as the Polaris release

[tender pagoda]

[proper junco]

show your polaris pledges

[tender pagoda]

[clear stag]

Sorry on mobile lol

Ended up melting it a few times since I thought there was no hope lol but managed to get a good deal last year

I’m so excited to finally have a home

[proper junco]

[untold gorge]

im waiting for live to fly it for the first time

not going to try it out in the PTU phases

[tender pagoda]

same

[scarlet jungle]

I'll fling it around in the ptu

I will fly it naked irl.

[opaque rain]

please do not inform chat of how clothed you are or will be irl

[scarlet jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/fez-that70sshow-wilmer-valderrama-i-can-do-whatever-i-want-sassy-gif-6091950

[clear stag]

I hope we get some nice paint’s with release I really want a black and gold conci paint

[tender pagoda]

[dense grotto]

thats a sick paint ngl

boys lets get our polaris to 1st place in ship showdown next year

[dense grotto]

for that, we can only pray to the CIG gods

my fav color pattern for paints ngl

[dense grotto]

i hope we can get a paint like this one that will make it looks more "polished" from the outside

[mossy yoke]

yellow cockpit window pls pls

[clear stag]

I’m going to fucking nut

life is good the future is long and bright

[tender pagoda]

Dis from?

Ptu files?

[austere gull]

dayum

[scarlet jungle]

That's sexy

[clear stag]

It might be a military camo pattern but def getting the black and gold

[brazen eagle]

star kitten paint for Polaris

[proper junco]

Concierge paints

Blue black yellow sounds like the CL

Black grey gold is probably concierge

[green herald]

Black and gold polaris paint 🤤

need

[dense grotto]

Real

[amber breach]

yeah but pretty much everyone with a Polaris is concierge

[fierce arrow]

Poor!

400i?

But I can solo a Jav!

It’s triangular and it has missiles. I see no difference.

Nope. Just my Jav.

Oh!

And my Polaris!

And my Arrastra…

[weak hill]

You can solo anything you want. Technically theyre all only solo ships cause it only has 1 pilot

[fierce arrow]

[somber wren]

realistically and effectively? probably not

[fierce arrow]

Blades and NPCs will let me.

[tender pagoda]

19 days

[somber wren]

npcs will be incredibly expensive, and warships operate at a huge loss, even moreso for capitals. you will need to grind your arse off whenever the jav is away to keep it flyable

[fierce arrow]

I highly doubt that. Either A, they don’t cost much and can be successfully flown.
Or B… Insurance fraud and a few days between flights.

[somber wren]

from what evidence? cig can balance things however they feel like. they can make npc's expensive and terrible if they wanted to. realistically, successfully manning a javelin solo will not be possible. npc's will require upkeep in the form of payment and resources, your ship requires resources (ammo, fuel, spare parts, misc stuff), and all that will be balanced with the mindset that there are multiple people working to keep the ship operational as part of a fleet

[weak hill]

Imma run box missions in my jav and profit

Jav finna have more SCU storage than anything else so ez cargo transport

[fierce arrow]

So… Insurance Fraud.

[somber wren]

they wont make insurance fraud a viable way to consistantly make money

[proper junco]

As a space base ill probably only need fuel money

Occasionally take out to multicrew for events

[fierce arrow]

Not make money. Just... Use the ship I paid for.

[hallow rose]

Ima use the polaris as a space pizza delivery service 😎

[fierce arrow]

From where?

[coral rover]

100% guarantee your pizza gets delivered in one piece

[hallow rose]

Well maybe, i may get lost finding where i stored the pizza in the polaris

[coral rover]

You'll be fineeee

[proper junco]

Polaris diner

U can park your small craft around the air lock or in the hangar

Leave your guns and suit at the armory

Medbay just in case u get diarrhea

The brig is there for unruly customers

[coral rover]

space bell dinner

[clear stag]

We should do a count down till the bestest girl arrives

[coral rover]

I'm gonna wait until after IAE to make my Polaris's maiden flight

I want it to go smoothly

[tender pagoda]

missing out on the day 1 meetups???

[coral rover]

Good point, good point...

I'll buy a second polaris, save one for it's maiden flight and use one for meet-up on day one

[tender pagoda]

New Babbage will probs be the spot

big flat open area

[clear stag]

Do we have an idea of how much grade A capital military components are going to cost?

[proper junco]

afaik most capital sized components will be bespoke

[clear stag]

I don’t like that

[main violet]

it makes sense you can change a honda battery but god forbid u try and change a bmw battery

[opaque rain]

womp womp

[main violet]

some things are just poorly designed

[opaque rain]

well it's more like a goddamn honda battery vs m113 battery

honda vs bmw is more like 300i vs zeus

[main violet]

prolly easier

[opaque rain]

yeah but they dont let the average grunt do it

[main violet]

should just have it on rails to roll out with openings

[proper junco]

think of it as the ship is built around the component instead of the other way around

yes we made this beeeeg gun, now we need to put wings on it

(A10 warthog)

honda engine vs destroyer class ship engines

afaik the Polaris powerplant is this whole room

its massive compared to s3

just hope the size justifies the power it produces

like being able to keep all systems on at normal use

[fierce arrow]

They had better.

[hallow rose]

do you guys think the polaris has any "bound/specific" components that can't be changed out, eg power plant or shield gen ?

[whole sleet]

Some capital parts are bespoke so unless it's a specifically made upgrade, I'd say not.

They did a talk on it a good while back for things like the idris, javelin and the 890 having bespoke parts that would need to be upgraded in specific ways through dockyards and the research tech loops

I assume the polaris and similar size ships that have size 4 components function similarly

[fierce arrow]

Most capital parts are bespoke. Power planet and cooling, definitely. Shields, maybe.

[pallid lantern]

Maybe one day if sub components become a thing

[hexed agate]

From @gilded fox

The rumble of the engines vibrates through the deck beneath my boots as I stride across the bridge of my Polaris. This is it, my very own corvette-class capital ship. It's more than just a vessel; it's an extension of my will, a symbol of my ambition in the vastness of space.

I glance over at my crew, each stationed at their consoles, diligently monitoring the ship's systems. A sense of pride swells within me. This isn't just a solo adventure; it's a shared experience, a team effort. We're a unit, bound together by the pursuit of adventure and the promise of the unknown.

Today, we're charting a course through uncharted territory, pushing the boundaries of known space. The thrill of discovery courses through my veins. Who knows what wonders, what dangers, await us in the darkness? With the Polaris's jump drive and long-range capabilities, the possibilities feel endless.

But it's not just about exploration. This ship is a fortress, bristling with turrets and torpedoes. Should we encounter any hostile forces, we're more than ready to defend ourselves. The thought of commanding my crew in the heat of battle, coordinating our defenses and unleashing our firepower, sends a shiver of excitement down my spine.

And when the day is done, and the stars beckon, I can retreat to my personal quarters, a haven of peace and tranquility amidst the vastness of space. This ship is more than just a machine; it's my home among the stars.

The Polaris is my key to unlocking the full potential of Star Citizen. It's a platform for adventure, a tool for exploration, a weapon for defense, and a home away from home. With this ship at my command, the galaxy truly feels like my oyster.

Dunno why it considered it spam lol

[gilded fox]

idk either, but thanks

[tender pagoda]

maybe cause its delicious

like spam

[tender pagoda]

I think it's called fan fiction

[fierce arrow]

“Glancing Over at my crew?” You mean all around at them?

[civic sage]

Is the polaris the best ship in the game?

[clear stag]

no such thing but also yes

[proper junco]

Truly a Polaris experience

[brazen eagle]

I would temper the hype tho we all know how it goes pre release hype is all time high but after release hype tend to turn into disapointment

[weak hill]

Nah nah stay hyped folks. Its proven the hype and anticipation around an exciting event is more enjoyable than the event dopamine wise and having something exciting to look forward to even if it will never live up to the expectations makes life more enjoyable and fun for the time leading up to the event

https://www.brownandhudson.com/where-to-why/article/is-anticipating-even-better-than-the-real-thing#:~:text=The results of an oft,inventing and idealising the future.

The exact quote is “the pleasure derived from anticipating something enjoyable, is often equal to or greater than the pleasure derived from the event itself” so keep being hyped yall!!

[mossy yoke]

sure

well the internet tells other storys even rts like npc fleet comander gameplay could get a thing, in 30 years... then i am to old hehe

https://www.toolify.ai/ai-news/exciting-ai-npc-update-in-star-citizen-393708

source jan 2024

but well no one real knows, only CIG maybe the either dont know...

[dense grotto]

HMMMMMM maybeeeeee? 👀

Hoping

[dense grotto]

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

[main violet]

doesnt say ships though

BUTTTTttt doesnt say not ships 🤔

[rigid brook]

the shadows of the ships will be there

[fierce arrow]

Where is the ship??

[rigid brook]

they only had time to model the shadows

come back next IAE

[dense grotto]

😭💀

[somber pivot]

No Polarizz in PTU..

No need to install it

[rigid brook]

2 more weeks bois and our jpgs turn into ships

[mossy yoke]

well ist just rening folders... so goin ptu essy

[coral rover]

not fast enough

[fierce arrow]

Why?!?

[clear stag]

imma wait till live regardless i want my crew to be there and we all see it for the first time together letting them pick out their own rooms and stations

[sage rover]

Do you think a Cutty Black would fit in the Polaris hanger?
It would make for a good drop ship.

[weak hill]

Absolutely not

If a cutlass fits in Polaris that shit finna be OP

[sage rover]

I was checking the sizes, it looks like it might

Depending on the height

Obviously that is unlikely the correct scale. But maybe..

[fierce arrow]

Does 400i fit?

[sage rover]

Looks to be too long

[weak hill]

Holy shit I havent seen this comparison shit ight actually fit wtf

You think that means zeus/harbinger might fit? What website is that on

[sage rover]

Its on the starship 42 website, using "fleet viewer".

[sharp raven]

No and starship 42

Zeus wont fit

Harbinger might though

[sage rover]

Is that the Zeus mk2?
I haven't been keeping track of the zeus lol

If you angle it a bit when entering, it might fit

If you fold the wings it could go in.

[sharp raven]

The wings automatically fold in when deploying landing gear

So yes, it should fit, might be a tight fit with the s5 nose gun, but otherwise shouldn’t be a problem

[fierce arrow]

Noooo

[tender pagoda]

should fit

[weak hill]

Just dont close the hangar

Ez, dont QT

fly everwhere legit

I mean to be fair the height is basically the same as the scorpius

So might not be to tall

[opaque rain]

that is reaching

[opaque rain]

why

[fierce arrow]

It is too long. Very sadge.

Transport.

Fake News!

[weak hill]

Bro imma have a 300i in mine to use to fly down to bunkers and shit

Yo when is Idris supposed to be flyable in game? Like for people that have it pledged

[dense grotto]

2 years, with squadron 42

[weak hill]

God DAMN

[main violet]

when yall think possible polaris testing week before IAE?

[proper junco]

Probably the week before IAE

[civic sage]

why is the polaris so dark inside

they forgot to add lights?

[tender pagoda]

Military are always dark inside, outside of hangars/mess rooms

[hallow rose]

You need to be dark in space, like subs are dark under water. So when you throw a S10 torp, nobody knows from where

[rigid brook]

devman will we ever see these turret designs again on polaris or other rsi ships or is it game over and they were thrown into the void forever

[fierce arrow]

I like these. A lot.

[coral rover]

Don't we all

[lapis fable]

sorry to break dreams but im worried s10 torps will be meme

for reference -> idris nav mode 800m/s

reclaimer nav mode -> 900m/s

890 jump nav mode -> 915m/s

Javelin nav mode -> 900m/s (faster than idris)

and you if pull out g lock and and all other shit you can maintain backwards flying also 800m/s and dropping scm to shoot main gun once and you still only drop 500m/s until you put nav mode back and accelerate back to 800m/s

idris m

[fierce arrow]

Only 750K damage but 270 M/S speed?

[fierce arrow]

Javelin is newer. But like...

[lapis fable]

current leaked ones hopefully they rework

[fierce arrow]

750K damage is not enough to scratch a 22M HP Idris.

[lapis fable]

before we go into damage

[fierce arrow]

And the speed...

[lapis fable]

lets look flight time from minimum distance

[fierce arrow]

Is that a 10 second minimum flight time?

[lapis fable]

more let me show you

[fierce arrow]

OK... but 20 is excessive.

[lapis fable]

minimum lock range is 2800m -> it takes 7 seconds + 1 second arm time to get lock and +2 sec because lag for mode change + flight time 270m/s -> 20.37037 sec +0.8 sec to ignite -> 21.1703 second to hit from minimimal distance (target stays still)

[fierce arrow]

750k damage per torpedo is almost 1M and the Idris has 22M Hull HP.

[lapis fable]

750k remember to count shield reduction + armor reduction

[fierce arrow]

Well what do you calculate?

???

[fierce arrow]

So add 1.5M for shields and how much does armor do?

[lapis fable]

20-30% minus from shield and 50% minus from hull

you reduce s10 torp damage from that

you get the idea how much goes trough

because 750k is physical/ballistic

[fierce arrow]

so... 20% of 750k is 300k.

300k X... around 80 then.

80 torps for an Idris kill.

[lapis fable]

and polaris carried 28 torps

[fierce arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-elmo-elmo-rise-fire-flames-gif-19598540

[lapis fable]

remember if target moves away with nav mode

it goes even worse

[fierce arrow]

What do??

Missile too slow.

It sure would be a shame if they jsut... Naved away.

[lapis fable]

you need to have mantis or you do 0 dmg

and even if you do have mantis

you still run out of torps

damage wise

[fierce arrow]

Not including Idris PD.

Should I refund it?

[lapis fable]

pds is mystery

tohught

3.23 idris had primitive pds

it had several cf-227 accross hull

[fierce arrow]

Constellations too right?

[lapis fable]

its in 3.24.3?

did you chek ptu

i know it gets 11pds

i know phoenix video

because korean friend made it

but i meant current 3.24.3 ptu

[lapis fable]

if there is no s10 torpedo changes its risky

[brazen eagle]

wait for Polaris in PTU and we will have 100% Polaris vs Polaris fight

[mossy yoke]

for a while yeah, but thats always the same with new toys

so why not ;-D

[hallow rose]

Ah s9 torps do 400k

So 750k for s10nisnt bad tbh

[clear stag]

I just worry how slow they are

[austere gull]

i worry about current hull hp of an Idris

22 millions hp

22mil/750k and you get ~29 ish (successful) torpedoes

[hallow rose]

Isnt idris supposed to be tanky tho, its a carrier

[austere gull]

it is but not that much
i've seen people on reddit saying they launched 50 s9 at an Idris in total and they just gave up
Now idk why they did that, if it is a place holder in the meantime armor comes out, or if it was to avoid Idris dying easily if boarded by players during events
But current Idris could solo the whole Sq42 prologue 💀

like in the prologue you can see an Idris split in 2 by a turret on a similar size ship
And Kingship getting heavily damaged by probably half the amount of torpedoes used by these guys https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1d21bum/2231_idris_invincible/

i get that it's supposed to be tanky, against small to medium weapons yes
not against s9 or s10 torpedoes

[opaque rain]

how

idris has way more thrust to weight than the jav

[lapis fable]

they havent updated it

also jav had less hp

[opaque rain]

updated what

[lapis fable]

current balanced stats

[opaque rain]

i hope so

hol up imma do napkin math

[opaque rain]

currently jav has 17 t/w and idris has 27

[fiery pine]

Polaris will have a traktor beam in the cargo bay like Id been hoping
https://youtu.be/BxQ6q0FjwQw?t=89

Heres hoping it can move on 2 axes like a gantry crane
The Idris has some (currently) non functional ones that arent traktor beams

[opaque rain]

is the polaris in ptu/evo yet?

what's that then

[lapis fable]

placeholder model

[lapis fable]

Javelin

[opaque rain]

actually now that i look at it yea, i thought it was just like a ship flying over a polaris

[lapis fable]

and im in pilot seat

yes it goes 900m/s

[opaque rain]

i hope we get the functionality of opening/closing the hangar remotely

[fiery pine]

above the door opposite the torpedo loaders

[lapis fable]

idris 800m/s

[opaque rain]

in the polaris

[fiery pine]

you can already do that with any ship door, albeit limited to all doors at once unless theyre locked prior, and its even more broke now that they added interior doors reacting as well

[lapis fable]

idris has 22.5mil hp+

javelin has 7.9mil hull hp

[opaque rain]

how? with the new mobiglas or what?

[fiery pine]

keybinds, as well as inner thought interactions while in the pilot seat

been there for years

[opaque rain]

i said remotely not through the cockpit

aka when you are in a snub

[fiery pine]

well, when you request landing on the connies do they not have a door that opens for the snub to dock? or is it always open

[opaque rain]

thats more a docking port

source is?

[fiery pine]

remote ship management has been mentioned iirc

already traces of it in the current mobiglas

[opaque rain]

yeah he just pulled that info outta his rear

and my source is that they said they would do it

yeah but your source is "i don't think it makes sense" and mine is "they said it"

ok bro

[main violet]

i thought they were doing away with hull hp its all physical based just destroys parts of the ship

only true way to POP is if u hit the power plants

[lapis fable]

thought you were bot because your avatar

[main violet]

🛌

[west imp]

The Idris health pool is temporary

[fierce arrow]

It is??

[west imp]

Yes, when the Polaris was flying around it had a stupid amount of HP too

They don’t want people going around yeeting the ships

And on the little renders they posted they showed a Polaris killing an Idris with 3 torps

[opaque rain]

we know thats always accurate

[fierce arrow]

Where Polaris?

[untold gorge]

Does anyone have a gif of the Polaris coming out of quantum

From newest iae video

[proper junco]

ill take that thanks

now just want someone to edit in "hello chat"

[fierce arrow]

I have a better one.

[proper junco]

shoot

[fierce arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-gif-23370231

[proper junco]

[rigid brook]

Hopefully we get some good paints

Two tone grey with yellow glass from concept pls and thank you

[proper junco]

apparently we are getting about 2 or 3 paints

according to leaks

[weak hill]

So will we get Polaris when IAE starts if pledged or do we have to wait for RSI day?

[tender pagoda]

should be start

[brazen eagle]

most likely as soon as 3.24.3 goes to LIVE unless CIG keeps Polaris as ˝suprise˝ reveal til RSI day

[mossy yoke]

i bet they keep it surprise till rsi day

would make sense to me keeping hyped hopium high as possible ;-D

the wow effect is even bigger that way

you know seeing your jpg split in imersive 3D jpgs... hehehe

[sage rover]

Do you think they will make it free to rent on RSI day?
If so there would be "loads" of polaris' flying around for the two days.

[brazen eagle]

even sooner Polaris will be in PTU first

[sage rover]

Nah I 100% get that. I was just thinking how laggy it would be having so many polaris' in use at once lol

[brazen eagle]

not really if it can handle 890J it will handle polaris to

[somber pivot]

That's not said by CIG

The only ship announced to be in ptu is the Starlancer

[rigid brook]

Meh 890j is just fat a lot of wasted empty space, Polaris is jam packed with interior and an over detailed hull

Also 890j is limited sale, and Polaris is not and everyone and their mothers gonna be pulling out their Polaris’s when it launches on top of all the rented Polaris’s from IAE, and then the fact that IAE is free fly which that on its own always breaks the servers

Servers gonna die.

[half solar]

I'm going to review my Polaris in Arena Commander to avoid the inevitable lag and kamikazes.

[opaque rain]

why would it be laggy

it's one ship worth of assets to load

regardless of how many there are the textures are all the same

[main violet]

were about to get blue balled so hard

i can already feel it

[fierce arrow]

[weak hill]

So when is that PTU do we know?

[proper junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139296571188596756/1304227579946860564/0tdor0fpnizd1.gif

[main violet]

they said possibly tonight

most likely tmrw

[frank lily]

I love it

10,000 chats since your last visit

WHOS FUCKING EXCITED FAM...!!!!

Fuck yea Space Mates....

I absolutely LOVE these graphics....

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/20174-Countdown-To-IAE-2954

Grats mate

Wish i was with you..!

[proper junco]

where patch

lemme see some tours

[weak hill]

CAPTAINS QUARTERS ARE LOCKED!?

[celest monolith]

ITS TIME!!!!

WE NEED CREWS

[weak hill]

Cant fly it yet...

Just summon it

Captains quarters are locked until 3.24.3 full release it says

[proper junco]

polaris is in ptu

[untold gorge]

We get to see what fits in the cargo bay and that’s it

[proper junco]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-konosuba-crying-freaking-out-gif-17388148

[celest monolith]

i cant get in the PTU so my polaris is sitting there all alone

[main violet]

im out and about right now i need pics!

[rigid brook]

quick what fits in cargo bay and fill hangar

[scarlet jungle]

guys

i made a mess

when i called my polaris

[clear stag]

i should call her

[halcyon estuary]

An immediate priority that we can all agree on

[patent galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189845730404335669/1304645296193667134/image.png?ex=6730251d&is=672ed39d&hm=1b41b738d995b96eabc4d78836ab668b3ee5967ca7a4228b97d3ee7f62033903&

Two fighters fit in pretty well. Vanguard and Cutlass can't get through the door.

There's a bug where you can't engage gimballed/auto modes on any turret other than the top rear one, and they all lack targeting pips.

[clear stag]

F8c fit okay?
And how many arrows could you shove in?

[rigid brook]

Alright bois what fits in cargo bay

[hallow rose]

What size hanger is the polaris L or XL ?

[opaque rain]

im betting a good pilot could shove a gladius in there

c8r should def fit

[fierce arrow]

I WAS GRIEFED!

[patent galleon]

Easily and without issue

[rigid brook]

Does vulture fit with hangar door shut

[patent galleon]

F8C and 2x Arrow fits nicely as forecasted

A third might be possible but will be a tight squeeze

[rigid brook]

2

[clear stag]

Pretty sure we can fit 4 arrows in the cargo bay

I love this ship so fucking much

[rigid brook]

Still sad cig hates nova tonk

[clear stag]

Storms pretty good tho

[rigid brook]

Storm is meh

[clear stag]

vroom vroom

[patent galleon]

At least 2

Ah got beaten to the punch.

[rigid brook]

Can’t wait for this Polaris q&a

[patent galleon]

Vanguard doesn't fit

[clear stag]

Seems like it’s having a lot of draw backs and nerfs how good is CIG usually about correcting these issues

Cause it makes me worried

[patent galleon]

The mirrors in the bathroom kind of work

They don't reflect hair, the face blending isn't quite right, and your helmet is always missing.

But they have facetracking on

[scarlet jungle]

atleast its a wip

[wintry gale]

How much would the polaris be during IAE and is it worth it?

[brazen eagle]

It is worth it if you have a crew for it and into its gameplay

[wintry gale]

I've got a few friends and like doing bounty hunting + cargo

It's insanely expensive though so collection wise I'd have to melt my 600i and reclaimer...

[brazen eagle]

You need more than a few friends for polaris plus would need small ship with emp to chase target and disable it

[wintry gale]

True

I'll hold off until ai blades or crew arrive

What about a reclaimer to a starlancer tac?

[brazen eagle]

Look you can get polaris with SC and play with it till bored then melt her

[wintry gale]

That's true. But I also do a lot of solo stuff

I could cargo run a polaris

Or put a fighter in it

[brazen eagle]

Could but would it be profitable tho words from PTU say its a fuel guzzler

[wintry gale]

Damn

I'll see if it changes during live then

[brazen eagle]

Personaly Polaris should eat fuel its a military capital

[patent galleon]

Majority of the issues I've found are with component balancing. It could use a beefier power plant and none of the turrets have targeting pips.
Not sure if it's just me but the torps haven't been able to lock on either.

Turrets don't seem to have working gimballs either, and their capacitors are tiny.

We've got a couple of weeks and a few more Polaris passes until it's ready though, so hopefully this gets fixed.

[proper junco]

Tell them to remove the torpedo console downstairs

[wraith swan]

They made it rentable?

Fucking hell..

[unique oriole]

Its rentable in the ptu?

[wraith swan]

That's what I heard

Not impressed with that

[unique oriole]

Huge if true

I doubt it will be rentable in pu though

[wraith swan]

people spending lots of money on that ship, just for everyone to take a piss at it before people who bought it

[unique oriole]

Alot of its systems are a bit borked

So they arent getting the full polaris experience ™️

[wraith swan]

Yeah

Let's hope PU will be nice

and then 4.0 in december

I hope

[unique oriole]

Its a relatively simple patch

Mainly just ships to my knowlage

And the save stanton event

[wraith swan]

Yes, but performance wise

[unique oriole]

I honestly thought save stanton would come with 4.0

[wraith swan]

I was hoping so

But 4.0 seems to be december?

Or early 2025

[unique oriole]

4.0 is this year, not a doubt in my mind

Because they removed half of the features of the day 1 patch

[wraith swan]

Idk how long you're playing star citizen

but not having doubts

[unique oriole]

Which is probably so they can fit it into 2024

[wraith swan]

idk man

[unique oriole]

I phrased it wrong

But im very certain that its coming in 2024

[wraith swan]

I very much hope so

Cuz CIG is getting me pissed lately

[unique oriole]

What is pissing me off on a major level though

Is that i have the starlancer tac but i cant even try out the max because they dont give the loaner in ptu

I just have the paint for it sitting in my storage

[wraith swan]

and that's what I meant earlier

About loaners

CIG doesn't give you the nicest ships for loaners

[unique oriole]

i mean the max will definitely be a loaner for the tac, its just that their lovely minds decided to let tac owners cope and seethe

until it comes out for real

[wraith swan]

Perfect DRAKE loaners for kraken would be
Buccanneer - Cutlass Black - Catterpillar - Polaris

[unique oriole]

i think it would be buccaneer- ironclad- polaris

[wraith swan]

Or that

[unique oriole]

because alot of people want it for the storage

[wraith swan]

But we don't need C2 and HH

[unique oriole]

c2 and hh is just to compensate i think

[wraith swan]

And Catterpillar sucks imo

i hate loading it

[unique oriole]

when they make the doors work as elevators it will be nice to work with

[wraith swan]

yeah

It's way to tight for boxes

[unique oriole]

it has huge potential in terms of modularity too, its just that at the moment its a worse c2

[wraith swan]

Yep C2 is best hauler for now

[unique oriole]

and it has like barely enough engine power for atmospheric flight when fully loaded

[clear stag]

Solo pilots are all the same lol

[mossy yoke]

well its polaris anyway, but ok next time

[mossy yoke]

the bespoken guns on front turrent can be exchanged with other size 5-6 guns

in arena commander!

the PDC slots are empty right now, and can not be modified in AC

[sharp raven]

Can somebody PLEASE get me a video of the Polarises side turret animation? Ty <3

[mossy yoke]

mine has it

[mossy yoke]

at 19:05 you can see the side turret in my vid

[tardy sorrel]

Only in AC? Id love to see some modularity to the main gun in the PTU/PU

[mossy yoke]

i did not try in ptu yet

[sharp raven]

Wheres your video?

[mossy yoke]

#imadethis message

[sharp raven]

Sick, love the animation, thanks

[brazen eagle]

So is she a keeper or not?

[honest field]

anyone know how the torps work?

can the pilot or someone on the bridge fire them?

[brazen eagle]

no torpedo console in torpedo room does

[honest field]

and i heard you have to manually reload?

do they mean reload after each volley or when you run out?

[brazen eagle]

run out you can store additional torpedoes in cargo bay

[honest field]

so if I wanna run a minimum crew, talking about just pilot, torps and main turret, can I use the polaris with 3 peeps?

[brazen eagle]

perhaps

[honest field]

Thanks man

yeah then you will need a min of 4 or 5 considering the size

[mossy yoke]

with blades coming 3 ppl will do fine

some more for the escort pilots

[brazen eagle]

i wouldnt count on this

[mossy yoke]

on what exactly?

[brazen eagle]

blades actualy be worth using

[mossy yoke]

if they are not usefull for PVE, or lets say useless for any task

why the hell make them ?

i want PVE support which blades should give

and i bet many pvp player want sub system support by blades/npcs

so what is all this talk about

we make blades, but they are useless ...

makes no sens

[rigid brook]

How many pdc on Polaris

[brazen eagle]

AI blades will require power and with new CIG power management it will mean other systems will suffer. Reminder CIG wants player crew not AI blades and NPC crew so they will make sure player crew would be preferable

[mossy yoke]

as i said, if they are nerfd to useless ... then their is no point of making them the first place

i dont care about META, i dont mind being less performante or good as a crew of average or pro gamers

i never said i want to go OP as individual, so pls

dont tell me 1000x the same old but... concerns

i dont care...

[mossy yoke]

erkul says 7 PDC

[tender pagoda]

4 on bottom 3 ontop

[rigid brook]

Dang starlancer stole Polaris’s pool table

[main violet]

can't wait to have access to the captains quarters

[lapis fable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1gneo00/getting_more_powerful_s6_turrets_for_polaris/

[brazen eagle]

is it just me or Polaris feels rushed compared to Zeus?

[fierce arrow]

Well yes, they said that it was to get it into our hands faster.

Why did we not get this turret design?

Where did this turret go? What does it do?

[brazen eagle]

ROFL

[fierce arrow]

It seems good… but lack of ATC was questionable. Also, where are the COs quarters?

[brazen eagle]

locked since being worked on

[fierce arrow]

I thought that was Captains only.

[brazen eagle]

CO is captain

you meant XO

[main violet]

i love that the med room has a receptionist desk, now i need a receptionist

[rigid brook]

First time?

[fierce arrow]

Oh, yes, this.

[fierce arrow]

+1 to crew!

[rigid brook]

They removed a normal gun turret and put the missile turret between the engines top side

[fierce arrow]

Why…? Now it has no too rear gun defense.

[rigid brook]

Well it has a turret bottom rear side

[fierce arrow]

Bottom. What happens if somebody gets behind it and on top?

[rigid brook]

You got the quad front guns

But I do agree with you Polaris is not looking good

[fierce arrow]

Can they shoot backward?

Why are they ugly?

[rigid brook]

Crunch time

[main violet]

i also realized that just because theres limited rooms doesnt mean i cant have 12+ crew we take shifts anyways

[west imp]

Insurance fraud my beloved

[fierce arrow]

[night cipher]

WTH THE 2 COOLEST ROOMS ARE LOCKED???????

CO and captains rooms??!?!?

bruh

[brazen eagle]

yep CIG gave us rushed and unfinished ship

[night cipher]

awesome...

I was looking forward to those rooms the most

[clear stag]

Hopefully they correct everything other wise I’ll be handing out torches

[hallow rose]

Can you fit the Ares Inferno / Ion inside the hanger of the Polaris ?

i'm uhh...

asking for a friend <_<;;;;;

-hides mountain of ballistic ammo boxes-

[night cipher]

yes

if the vanguard fits

the Ares easily fits

[hallow rose]

problem is, Vanguard doesnt fit from what ive been told

[night cipher]

f8c fits

[night cipher]

oh

well F8C fits

so Ares will

the hangar is way longer than it is wide

so don't worry

barrel isn't a problem

[hallow rose]

ah ok, neat

ty kind sir O7

[night cipher]

o7

[fierce arrow]

Probably.

[proper junco]

Vulture fits

Me boutta do my vulture runs on a Polaris

[night cipher]

I wonder if legionnaire will fit in the Polaris for boarding stunts

[opaque rain]

might very barely make the length

but i'm pressing x

[night cipher]

it would be too perfect if it could

[opaque rain]

actually it should fit

if vulture and f8c fits legionnaire should fit

how much clearance does the vulture have with the hangar doors?

Also, I'm surprised to see how many people are mad about ramming. I'm not saying the polaris should die to ramming from an aurora for gameplay sakes but it should take a hell of a lot of damage. People seem to not recognize how heavy and fast these ships are, that much kinetic energy is not nothing.

[night cipher]

LOL I can see why they're upset but it makes sense

[night cipher]

😈

[night cipher]

idk but I can ask someone

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/92000849236066304/1304807356307083354/20241109140705_1.png?ex=6730bc0b&is=672f6a8b&hm=9a4788412bbc8dbac1df3f1fa9305920b51b63a02ef19d21f4c5fab25a2b5861&

looks like plenty of room

[opaque rain]

i think legionnaire iwll fit

if it doesnt grow

[sage rover]

Just watched the video BoredGamer did on the polaris interior.
He seems to think the Cutlass Black would fit too.
What do you think?

[sage rover]

Hey look. I saw a polaris on YouTube and had to click it lol

[fierce arrow]

Good. Now convince CIG to male Vulture taller and I will be happy.

[opaque rain]

no

just no fam

it barely might be able to squeeze in there if you don't close the hangar doors but like, why?

[opaque rain]

why would the vulture need to be taller

like, i don't get the whole thing with putting zeuses or cutlasses in the polaris. there's literally no use case for them

like the "putting ship into another ship" has gotten too crazy

why would you ever need to do that

i mean fighters i understand

and like vultures sure cool polaris is a good vulture carrier, extra cargo i guess

even prospector, sure take extra saddle bags and grind on that bitch for a week

but like why a cutlass

you either take a fighter, or if you want the blue you take a mantis, if you want the red you take a pisces, if you want the steel then you're just weird anyway

and if you want the black you got some weird ah priorities

no

i will ram every polaris that has a cutlass in it if it fits

not on my watch

im sorry im fed up on this topic

[fierce arrow]

Too keep it out.

[fierce arrow]

Extra defenses that are good?

[fierce arrow]

Then shoo. My next question is…

Can a 400i fit in a Polaris?

[opaque rain]

#1139296571188596756 message

[opaque rain]

idk but deez nuts can fit into that mouth

[fierce arrow]

Mantis is good.

[fierce arrow]

I have teef and I will use them.

[patent galleon]

ship doesn't appear in the PTU: this chat complains about it
ship appears in the PTU in an unfinished testing state: this chat conplains about it.

[fierce arrow]

*Ship partially appears in PTU.

[patent galleon]

It's mainly one room lmao and they said they're still working on it.
For everything else that's not in line with expectations there's lines of feedback we can use.

[fierce arrow]

ATC??

[patent galleon]

Wasn't in the pitch/release info, nor any of the floorplans they showed.

Like we saw some glass up there in the artworks and models and thought "wouldn't it be cool" but the presence of an actual room or third deck over the hangar wasn't mentioned on their end.

[opaque rain]

this ^

[fierce arrow]

Yes it was in the floorplans.

[fierce arrow]

Since when??

[patent galleon]

There was a room visible in above the hangar during the wip mode in the Ironclad ISC, which made this chat go "oh man we got a cool flight control room" but no attention was called to it and it wasn't part of the floor plan

[patent galleon]

Where, can you show me.

Because all the floorplans I've seen show only two decks.

[fierce arrow]

Oh no.

[patent galleon]

Like they 100% had something up there in an early model in the videos, but it wasn't part of the layouts and plans we were shown.
It's not like the pool table, CO room, and top rear turret, which did get removed.

Or the brig, which got modified to include an additional security office.

[fierce arrow]

Ok but top rear turret is critical. CO room is important. And Pool table as well.

[patent galleon]

My assumption with the flight control deck is that the Polaris hangar interior was copy pasted during WiP from a bigger ship which had that kind of room (maybe the Javelin?) and then reshaped to fit the Polaris while they worked on stuff like the hangar to cargo lift.

[opaque rain]

honestly

i'll take the 600 scu instead of all those useless garbages

or the way nicer bunk accomodation

[fierce arrow]

Oh no. You mean Javs hangar is flat and has no ATC? because I kinda liked the multilevel cavernous look.

[fierce arrow]

No. I will not. An extra 60 SCU is not worth being defenseless when something gets behind.

[opaque rain]

it is.. not 60 tho

[fierce arrow]

What 600 SCU? Because the ship had 546. What do you mean by 600?

[opaque rain]

sure 546 bro

OC was like 200 something iirc

[fierce arrow]

Since when??

[opaque rain]

OC

OC was like 220 or something

[patent galleon]

I said using the interior model and then reshaping it.
I.e shrinking and flattening it, hence the existence of a half height flight control room in early models

They've mentioned reusing assets before

[patent galleon]

Top rear is fine as is, though ideally we would be able to manually reload those missiles from the cargo because as with everything else the ammo capacity is tiny.

It's okay to have some level of vulnerability (once they fix the fact that ramming an aurora kills basically everything due to how hull HP works right now)

[fierce arrow]

No. On a capital ship, it really isn't.

[opaque rain]

a game where a polaris has no vulnerabilities aint a fun game fam

[fierce arrow]

A game where a capital ship can be taken down by an Aurora isn't a fun game.

[patent galleon]

And that's an issue with Hull HP, not turret coverage.

[fierce arrow]

In what way...?

[patent galleon]

Speculatively, maelstrom material toughness and armour will make smaller ships go splat against larger ships without instantly destroying your hull because it uses a HP bar rather than something more advanced.

[opaque rain]

literally read what phantasm typed down

[patent galleon]

And so will the oft repeated idea of needing larger sized mounts to damage larger ships with thicker armor.

[fierce arrow]

And what if a Buccaneer or an Ares just decides to grief you?

[fierce arrow]

So.. it takes longer but will still happen.

[fierce arrow]

So... It just sits there for 4 hours instead of 5 minutes instead? Still griefed by a single LF regardless.

[patent galleon]

Get your escort to take it out, scramble your hangars fighter, just ignore it and jump elsewhere.

[fierce arrow]

Hangar fighters can't do everything. Mantis also exists. But... an entire top rear sector lacking any coverage? Unacceptable on a ship of this size.

[opaque rain]

bro

there is no way

that you are in a polaris with goddamn missile turrets and like so many turrets that i cant even remember where they are

plus you got a light fighter

and an aurora kills you

at that point it is a skill issue i do not care

[patent galleon]

The Polaris is a corvette with most of it's firepower aimed straight forward. There's some angles on it's aft left and aft right where there's no coverage, and directly behind it.
It's also got a clear role. Militia/Small Org flagship or a line Corvette in a larger battlegroup. In the former it should have escorts, and in the former you're looking at larger scale engagements where multiple ships are covering each other. The Polaris' design screams tip of the spear.

[patent galleon]

Top Rear has a missile turret covering it.

[fierce arrow]

Missile turrets are nearly useless. They lack UI and can't be used at close (griefing) range.

[opaque rain]

also we got a problem here, close (griefing) range is just close range my friend

[fierce arrow]

Where does it lack coverage on the side?

[fierce arrow]

Which the laser turert would have solved.

[opaque rain]

suicide ramming people is valid gameplay whether you believe it or not, port ollisar was the exception not the rule

spawn ramming people off pads: bad
ramming people with an aurora in a non armistice zone: valid gameplay

it's scummy but it aint griefing

[opaque rain]

also yeah, pretty much this

[fierce arrow]

Yes it is. And? I meant sitting in its blindspot and shooting it for 6 hours with a mantis nearby to troll.

[opaque rain]

again, that's not trolling, that's called gameplay whether you like it or not

[fierce arrow]

No it is not.

[opaque rain]

your belief that it is not does not change the fact that it is

no clue why you think it will

[fierce arrow]

You believe wrong.

[opaque rain]

you might think it's not good gameplay but it is valid gameplay

[patent galleon]

This is the furthest the side turrets can look backwards due to the shape of the ship, as you can see there's a whole segment that no turret has any view of.

[patent galleon]

If you can't do anything about a single Mantis there's something very wrong with your Polaris crew.

[opaque rain]

preach my friend preach

[fierce arrow]

The bottom and what should be top rear turrets.

[fierce arrow]

It has a range of 20km and is faster does it not?

[opaque rain]

brother in christ

[patent galleon]

It's blocked by the engine nacelles.

[opaque rain]

you got a light fighter in the hangar

and you got engines

which you can use to turn

and roll