Polaris Palooza

[rigid brook]

idk i feel like with how its design with all the blind spots having better turrets wont change that it will still be weak to that and with weaker armor and less cross fire it still wont be able to brawl above its weight

[proper junco]

Gonna need perseus and HH escorts

Help Polaris deliver the payload

they still nerfed Polaris anti fighter from concept by removing 2 turrets

2 missile pods to defend from below and above

s5 still feels undersized. doesnt have to be s7. compromise with s6

The s5 feels like trex arms

For a ship that shoots s10 torps, whats the s5 for?

Certainly not for the same target as the s10 torps

So something smaller like 600i to connie sized

Is s5 enough for them?

A perseus with all 4 s7 guns pointed at them will demolish those ships

A couple of s5 wont

And a double s6 probably wont be a major threat but something to look out for

If theyre keeping the s5 better put something in the hangar to deal with ships larger than fighters but smaller than 100m

[dim narwhal]

@fierce arrow yes and no, it had weapons that are player controlled and could be used LIKE pds. But other then that tye typical pds that's automated, no it doesn't. Unlike the idris and perseus.

@rain carbon yes it can still very much damage an idris, as I said. While supported. A fighter is not gonna tear it to shreds with 100m hp, and a Connie would be destroyed by any fighter simply chasing it.

I'll give you that, considering it a destroyer was a little far fetched and the best comparison is a submarine. Stealthy, fast. And deadly not against fighters, but ship at and above it's weight.

[fierce arrow]

They are small caliber and can be automated like a standard PDS right? What’s the difference?

[fierce arrow]

Is it stealthy? Hmm, maybe I should jeep it after all…

[dim narwhal]

Again, the ship was built to punch above its weight, meant to be more effective against larger ships then fighters.

[fierce arrow]

But it shouldn’t be totally defenseless against fighters each.

[dim narwhal]

Possibly automated. It is controlled by the person on the size 7 guns, and if it's ran how I think it is, it can't be automated since a human is sitting in it.

[dim narwhal]

Not sure about how stealthy, but it has the speed to fly in, launch 8+ torps on a single target, and fly past them.

[fierce arrow]

Is there a human in it? How do you thunk it will be controlled?

[fierce arrow]

MM says hello.

[proper junco]

Just hope physics means you wont collide with your own torps before they engage thrusters

[dim narwhal]

Now THAT is a worry for sure.

[rigid brook]

Magnetic rail torpedo launcher

[dim narwhal]

The size 7 turret and size 3 gun are slaved to eachother. So the person in the size 7 controlls the size 3 above them

[proper junco]

The video showed that the torps thrusters dont engage for a bit after they exit the tube

[dim narwhal]

Like left mouse right mouse controls

[rigid brook]

It’d be funny if another nerf was you can’t fire torps at high speed

[proper junco]

Thats just bad

I wonder whats the minimum range too

Or im dumbfiring

Wont be firing torps at nav speed but what about boosted scm

[fierce arrow]

That… sounds mega stupido. Perhaps they can be bladed?

[proper junco]

Iirc the polaris just has the scm speed a bit slower than a hornet

[rigid brook]

Idk I’m a firm believer Polaris should be glass cannon and not only glass cannon against enemies above its weight and glass to below its weight

[proper junco]

I just want s6 and the 2nd missile pod

They already nerfed the missiles in the pod

[dim narwhal]

Kinda but I also see it as semi balanced. If the jav had pds it would be a do it all. And I don't want a ship that can't be countered at all.

I think the polaris is great where it is. It's what I imagined when they described it since day 1.

[fierce arrow]

If I spend $3K, I expect a ship that could do it all. I could have bought multiple ships that could do a but of everything so I don’t see why I shouldn’t be able to combine anything for the same price.

[dim narwhal]

I don't, it would ruin the games balance more then the game is already imbalanced with being able to purchase ships with real money

[fierce arrow]

Purchasing ships with real balances the game because it allows the game to exist in the first place.

[dim narwhal]

I invested in the game to see it grow, that's why I dropped 13g, I want to see it succeed and to get a boost when it's fully released.

That's not balance in the game though, the finance supports it so it can exist, I'm not arguing that.

But in response it also takes away some of the balance since some with already have aka a javelin at the beginning

[dim narwhal]

In my case, jav, idris, perseus, polaris, hammerhead.

And reclaimer for finance

[proper junco]

I just need a connie sized daily and a money maker

Already got my capital and fighter

[fierce arrow]

Jav and extortion. All the money I need.

[proper junco]

I could ccu my apollo but I really like the concept

[fierce arrow]

Galaxy?

[proper junco]

Nah

I liked it but then i learned swapping modules might be miserable in the future

[fierce arrow]

Oh??

[proper junco]

The hangar is nice but its for pisces sized ships with some wiggle room

So I cant cram the prospector and mine - refine the haul

The prospector cant quantum the same range as a galaxy so

A mole perhaps

[fierce arrow]

Why not??

Prospector doesn’t fit.

[proper junco]

Medical galaxy is great with the pisces retriever

But then apollo exist

And it comes with drones to slip into tighter spaces

Cargo galaxy should be base module imo

[fierce arrow]

Yes.

No base module, no ship.

[rigid brook]

Facts ^^^

If Polaris is suppose to be glass cannon it should be glass cannon and not glass cannon only against ships above its weight that aren’t paying attention, needs firepower cause it lacks in armor due to it needing speed

The weaknesses out weigh the pros
Pros:
-strong poker against ships above its weight
-speed
Cons:
-weak armor
-can’t brawl against ships above its weight (which is fine not suppose to)
-can’t defend against ships below its weight
-can’t defend against fighters
-terrible turret placement
-massive blind spots to the rear allow components to essentially be camped
-it’s main pro is probably extremely expensive
-terrible fuel tank capacity for a ship meant for “patrols” and “search and rescue”

And before someone says medbed with nursa a max could have a medbed

Majority of people aren’t arguing to brawl with javelins people are arguing that it should be capable of brawling with large ships and have a decent chance to defend against fighters for being a top of the line latest tip of the spear capital ship of the uee

[untold gorge]

#1 Polaris hater & Size 5 lover

Polaris and Perseus will be a deadly duo, pair of matched blades if you will…

Yeah it can shoot a couple torps and scrap the thing

If I can hit corsairs with a s9 I’m not worried about a galaxy with an s10

Sigh

had a gunner and couldnt do shit, s9s curve like crazy

sounds like you need to melt it and move on, not your kinda ship

Anything bigger threat than a fighter or smaller threat than another sub capital should be handled by hangar/escort fighters 🤷‍♂️

A ballistic Corsair would be a worst case scenario, but fighters should be able to handle it

I don’t know mate, there’s no gameplay for capitals yet

I just want a mobile base for vehicles, respawn point and storage with friends. There’s no other gameplay yet

#1 Polaris hater lol, just weird

Polaris team made a statement about gun sizes and gave reasoning, if you can’t accept it the ship might not be for you

[rigid brook]

Wasn’t the correct statement “likely finalized”

Hopefully during the interior showcase next week CiG addresses the backlash until then the community just needs to keep up the red flags

[untold gorge]

Interior showcase??

[rigid brook]

During all ship round table they mentioned next week is a look inside Polaris greybox interior

[opaque rain]

bro what the hell though

a swarm of fighters is literally the counter of this thing

[rigid brook]

Cig has to see all the hate and will have to address it

[opaque rain]

everybody is just tripping now

and when you're crewed thats still gonna be the case

everybody is just upset that their $750 spaceship isnt good against everything at this point

but it was never sold as that

[untold gorge]

Perseus is around 700 and it has 4 big guns with no facilities like Polaris

[rigid brook]

But people aren’t asking for it to be good at everything people are asking it to be a capital against things below it’s weight

[opaque rain]

.......and it is?

im missing your point here

[untold gorge]

Capital shields, capital armour, turrets , hangar for fighters… it isn’t getting taken out by a handful of fighters

[opaque rain]

it doesnt tho

[rigid brook]

Except it has thinner then normal capital armor which gives it its speed

[opaque rain]

when actual resource consumption comes on for respawning and doasm the nursa isnt going to be a good option

definitely not better than polaris t2

[rigid brook]

Tbh they probably gonna milk the community hard and say well this is Polaris C come back and buy Polaris M

Also where are the thick turret from rework white box

[opaque rain]

wow literally 1 respawn in the perseus because you cant carry extra cargo to have more resources to spawn and practically infinite on the polaris because wow you can carry extra cargo to have more resources to spawn wowwwwww

[rigid brook]

Cig clearly knows what the ship needs and decided last minute no probably because everyone and their mother owns a Polaris they milked everyone already

[opaque rain]

also

they dont look that different to me than original so

idk man

i dont get these arguments

polaris is a balanced ship

i dont understand if its the fact that its balanced thats making you guys mad or what

[untold gorge]

It can’t be an idris for half the price and half the size

[opaque rain]

I KNOW RIGHT

[untold gorge]

And apart from the guns it pretty much is

[opaque rain]

so crazy to say that smh

[rigid brook]

But people aren’t asking for it to brawl against idris, it pokes above its weight what people are asking for is for it to be a capital against ships below its weight

[opaque rain]

it is

i dont get your point man

what ship thats under the polaris's weight gonna kill it

and no a ballistic corsair wont

how about you angle your turrets so they can see the corsair

better yet, use the lf in your hangar

yes

literally turn the ship

a corsair will not be able to keep up

doesnt matter

you literally have a hangar for LF's

[untold gorge]

Corsair comes onto capital radar, fighters in hangar are sent out to contest, Polaris angles to face it, protecting weak spots, Corsair blows up

[opaque rain]

which is literally the counter of the corsair

[opaque rain]

but bro you only have two turrets facing it!!!!1

youre missing all the points here

ok bro

[rigid brook]

It’s just crazy that ships below it have stronger weapons, when the Polaris only strong weapon is just torps that are used against caps above its weight

[untold gorge]

Ranges are not fixed

[opaque rain]

still didnt tell me how the corsair would counter a LF that would know the corsair is coming before the corsair knows its coming

ok bro

[untold gorge]

Who’s to say the galaxy and odyssey won’t get down gunned either, they are still concepts

[opaque rain]

have you seen the galaxys turret coverage

it literally doesnt exist

[untold gorge]

Galaxy is eating torps to the face as soon as I see one

Are you forgetting the whole point of the Polaris?

[opaque rain]

at this point youre literally just tripping

[opaque rain]

because thats the entire point of this ship

idk whats so hard about that

[untold gorge]

Yes it is, and it’s silly to pretend it can’t hit a hammerhead, Perseus or galaxy

[opaque rain]

ok so in the case of the polaris, you assume the guns will not reach anything and the polaris is like completely sitting still with a finger up its ass

[rigid brook]

The entire point of the ship is to be glass cannon not glass cannon above its weight and glass below

[opaque rain]

but the galaxy which has like the tightest angle to bring all those turrets together will angle all 6 s5s into the polaris

yeah if you make a 3yo pilot the polaris its gonna lose to a goddamn cutter bruh

give the polaris the worst case and a 3yo pilot with no gunners or LF
anything else gets the worst case and maverick as a pilot
polaris bad

terrible argument

ive seen the turrets bro

[dense grotto]

Honestly I have no issues with the turrets but omg they look comically small compared to the ship 😭😂

[opaque rain]

this convo has devolved into my cap ship is weak against anything that its not supposed to be strong against

[untold gorge]

Let’s run up 6 + 1 man Polaris vs ballistic Corsair on release then

[opaque rain]

so im just gonna leave tbh

but yea if you dont think a galaxy is getting torped to death by a polaris youre tripping

[dense grotto]

Death? More like ashes 😭

[opaque rain]

but noooooooo 6 s5s broooooooooooooooo

oooooooow

[untold gorge]

Anything c2 size or bigger is instantly jumping away from a Polaris, the torps are too much

Unless they have the means to stay and fight, like a load of fighters or a combat capital

Although sitting in an Idris while a Polaris turns up would be butt clenching

[mossy yoke]

its boring... in here... 😂 well for me its to much thoriecrafting and tailoring...

i love polaris because of design, its a beauty its armament is secondary to me, this game is not only about ship fights, there is much more options

[mossy yoke]

i often run stuff because pretty i sometimes extra dont play meta... hate metaplay...

[clear stag]

it broke my heart how bad theyve heart my girl ive been following it for years and its a pretty big gut punch

[clear stag]

it was supposed to me and my friends mobile home

[somber wren]

hopefully they fix

[lilac swan]

did they really ruin a ship they hyped up heavily for the past 3 years and people spent close to $1000 on....

i was looking forward to using this with my friends as a way to have fun but if its gonna get chewed up by light fighters i may just buy an idris

[mossy yoke]

hm i am more for sone super cool e-war torpedoes

stealth torpedo

toxic torpedo

fire torpedo

so internal effects!

[lilac swan]

i love the torps too but if im gonna have to have someone crew a fighter just to keep my alive ill stick to running cargo 😭

beautiful ship just getting drilled into the ground

i dont think the turrets make it too powerful, its just to discourage fighters from picking it apart

i dont mind the size decrease if they just kept the amount of turrets the same

[patent galleon]

The Engineering tests are altering engagement ranges and the like significantly so I'm not going to judge it's loadout on current standards.

[mossy yoke]

how long does one fighter need to kill that thing?! i mean the recharge of shilds will give hard time! and ballistics are shirt on ammo

so how long do you light and medium ace pilots eat on a HH? how much longer to eat a polaris...

[lilac swan]

yes it takes a while but the massive bump in SCU makes it worth it

give it the connie treatment and just sit on its tail and shoot it till it blows

[mossy yoke]

i dont think its that easy... we will see soon enough

[patent galleon]

Which is what the fighter in the bay is for, deploy your friend to cover your blindspots

I feel like even if they did put the top rear turret back the Polaris would still have a huge blindspot in its massive ass where you can sit.

Unless they make the thrusters absolutely melt things if you boost hard enough

[patent galleon]

The blindspots are pretty similar in both the previous and current loadouts, depending on how the side turrets pop out and if they extend/get good rotation there might even be less in the new layout. It's mainly the firepower that took a hit.

(with the assuming that those side turrets get like a Hammerhead side turret level of rotation where they can look both upwards and downwards once deployed)

Ah.

Doesn't look like they track upwards much either.

The initial concept was a bit too top heavy in terms of firepower I feel, you'd get the most firepower by flying top-facing the enemy.

That's more firepower than it was initially projected as though. It's not meant to have high end anti-large ship ordnance on the prow, the torps serve that role for it.

I'm okay with losing a couple of turrets myself if the hangar is the size Star Hangar says it is, each one is another crew member tied up after all and I'd rather have them in fighters.

[clear stag]

that turret is way to big for 4 shitty s3s def gonna end up selling a military upgrade 🤮

[dim narwhal]

Yall keep saying it changed its purpose, but the polaris still meets its intended purpose, Yall just dont like that it fills its role and thats it, that it fits the role like any ship, It should NOT be left unprotected, just as any ship shouldn't be.

In fleet warfare, or warfare as a whole you should never be alone.

It still is a submarine and still deals excessive damage above its weight

its goal since day one, was to punch UP when supported

It still IS a patrol shi[

ship

its fast asf,

It hits hard

it has multiple turrets that can fight off fighters or even delay them

Look at patrol ships rn, it performs better and faster than patrol ships

Solo, yes

But not solo it'll torp everything

Yall want it to be a solo wonder, as a patrol craft, which is unr3ealistic

Then every ship irl that is considered a patrol ship

Patrol ships IRL are NOT ones that punch above their weight

Hammerhead does as well.

No but we are comparing intended purposes.

And it fits its role as a patrol craft to the definition, and beyond but you dont like that

You want more,

I compare it to IRL and ships ingame which is why Me and others who had realistic expectations are pleasantly surprised and happy wth the results

Those with unrealistic expectations, such as yourself and a few others are disappointed because of that.

I will very much be happy in fleet combat,

Polaris ships will be extremely effective in fleet engagements,

Destroying and heavily damaging ships caught off guard

And if they focus on the polaris, they expose themselves to other ships

The torps are effective,

You have to pay attention to them yes,

The polaris is fast, it moves a lot,

A proper Polaris captain keeps it On the move and changing the directions and distances it fires from

Keeping the ships turrets pre-occupied, and less focused on other ships, If they aren't focused or aware, they are punished greatly

The polaris fullfills the patrol ship perfectly because of this,

Scanner range is huge, so it can spot enemies from afar,

Its torps outrange all weapon systems

So it can fire them from a distance and possibly land a hit or two depending

Then its also fast so it can keep said distance and avoid combat with other big ships Unless they use SCM, and give up their shields making them more exposed.

It also has space for a fighter or fighters, providing anti fighter support,

and it when mixed with a hammer head or two is a perfect small patrol fleet, as it can easily punch up above its weight and fend off smaller fighters with the hammerhead.

You focus on the ship alone, NO ship should be focused on alone, I dont even consider the idris or javelin a ship to be used alone.

Thats your first problem, secondly you look at it as a brawler, a patrol ship is not a brawler, It is meant to scout and avoid combat unless necessary and if supported.

A costal guard ship Doesnt engage a ship it cant handle, it calls for backup

There is not situation where a costal guard engaged something it couldn't handle simply because its a patrol ship.

Then you won,

They retreated

You successfully detered an enemy

You as a "costal" boat, just scared an enemy pirate ship from your waters

Which is successful with your purpose. for your comparison

First step to doing anything in the military which involves protecting, attacking, defense, etc

Scouting and intelligence, You cant protect what you dont know is there or isnt there. a Polaris gives you time, alerts you of enemy craft for you to either form up a defense, or move whatever they move to engage.

You dont understand military tactics, which shows since you dont comprehend information comes first in warefare especially with attacking or defending.

It has extended sensors,

it can see really far out compared to others

Polaris is meant to be a patrol ship, patrol ships are not meant to engage alone, Not a single patrol ship is meant to go out and defeat a bunch of other ships,

You keep saying patrol ship, then want it to handle like a frigate or a destroyer, I compare it to a submarine since it fits the role better By being able to punch UP unlike a patrol boat.

You are ignoring what CIG stated, you are ignoring the role itself,

CIG did not call it a frigate or destroyer,

Yes a PATROL craft does that

"Common uses for patrol boats include responding to emergencies, conducting routine patrols, surveillance, support, and law enforcement."

Thats the definition of a current day patrol boat.

This is an example of just that, except it can punch UP above its weight

If you want them to be honest with their definition, remove the torps, then its By definition a patrol boat.

Yes it very much can, it has size 10 torps, if you cant land a torp, doesnt mean it cant punch up.

sounds like a skill issue and improper use of the ship if you cant use the size 10 torps.

I rarely see the Eclipse size 9 torp get countered and see that blowing up hammerheads ingame rn solo.

It has plenty of reason to multi crew,

Fighter deterence,

It can deter fighters, It can even destroy some with an effective crew.

If you wanna two man it go ahead,

Nobody said You cant two man it, you just lose protection.

Not at all, no turrets manned means fighters walk all over you, all turrets manned and hangerbay used means you can fight off fighters

Having 3 snub nose fighters, and all turrets manned makes it difficult for a handful of fighters to destroy you.

Yes, you can still easily defend something.

the javelin has size 3's and I dont see yall saying it cant handle fighters and its twice the size.

thats what fighters are for bud

Use fighters to harass enemies who are at a range

You have a hangerbay, and plenty of weapons to use to fight against fighters and punch up.

Sorry your hopes and dreams of a solo ship being dashed.

A solo brawler*

Plenty of turrets to cover all but the ass end

And thats where your speed and fighters come in

Dont stay still,

stay moving

if this is that much of a problem to you, multi ship gameplay is gonna be hard for you bud.

multi crew and multiship*

cope I guess, thats all I can say, if its that difficult for you, just cope. I am satisified with the results and I love the polaris.

Guess what, ass end of javelin is completely exposed, and its slow as shit.

And it has a cargo bay fighters can fly into and shoot from the inside

Im not complaining about that issue cause it needs weaknesses as every ship does.

[patent galleon]

That's assuming S4 guns can consistently pen the hull though, and that ranges stay the same. The ranges are probably what's going to change the most if the Engineering tests are anything to go by.

[dim narwhal]

As I said, You CAN multi crew it, but its gonna be hard for you with your mentality instead of looking at its strengths

And it has alot.

So then 3 eclipses shouldn't smoke a polaris by your logic

10 v 3, but in all reality, eclipses are bombers and meant to also punch up with less,

but are weak against fighters.

Hammerheads, Minimum crew up 7, If properly used and buffed to be an anti fighter, could destroy 10+ fighters solo

Polaris is weak unsupported,

Just as an eclipse.,

Just as a hammerhead.

As I said, Properly used and buffedm

Because rn the hammerhead does not fullfil its role in the slightest

Hammerhead shouldn't even be scared of fighters

Polaris isn't a hammerhead.

Nice try on that comparison,

Hammerhead ismeant for fighters

Polaris is meant for large ships

Hammerhead can deal with small fighters without worry because its punching below its weight class

Polaris needs support because its punching ABOVE its weight class

balance bud, its balance.

idris is also slow, and requires a massive crew.

Take the idris crew, slap it in a few polaris's

And the idris is done.

An idris unsupported, is dead.

Just as a polaris

its like rock paper scissors, everything has its niche.

You forget its hangerbay, you also forget engineering

Its larger, it needs more people.

Sure, If you fully man every turret on the polaris, But we are hunting a solo idris here.

I did,

A single polaris

vs a single idris

And the idris would win

as it should, You are comparing unsupported ships against eachother and the idris should win.

Change it up, make it a fleet,

a Fleet with an idris's and no polarises, vs a fleet with polaris's and no idris's the fleet with polaris's would win.

It still needs support bud,

It has DoT, Polaris has Burst damage

Support against a fleet utilizing polaris's

You are comparing 1 on 1 now, which i already stated idris wins,

But fleet scenario, polaris wins, even if the idris has a fleet with no polaris.

A fleet with polaris vs a fleet without polaris, and the fleet with a polaris wins

the Burst DPS is to high compared to idris DoT

[patent galleon]

Its also got twice the crew count and is a slow behemoth.

[dim narwhal]

A fleet with an idris, a hammerhead, a javelin, and one of every ship excluding a polaris, vs a fleet with everything excluding an idris, the polaris fleet would win

BECAUSE the polaris offers such a high damage value,

It can easily cripple the most important ships,

while an idris can sustain itself and do damage overtime, the damage does not add up to the polaris.

So the fleet with a polaris would theoretically win damage wise.

You dont, But the polaris still does more damage then an idris.

We compared fleet vs fleet,

One has significantly more damage then others

You just dont like the polaris has a specific role as I said earlier.

and its that simple,

You can shoot down a javs torp to,

but you didn't use that in your example just now

About not needing a polaris cause you have 32 size 12 torps

Polaris is also less then half the crew

and faster

and cheaper.

Again, you sound like a cope problem.

A cope problems cant be helped.

Except learning to cope.

At this point, cope.

I never said 1v1 it wins.

I said in a fleet it would win.

You just dont care to listen

as you've just proven,

So, cope.

A few, read that again,

A few, polaris's

As in multiple english is hard, but its not that hard.

It does,

Have 3 ships with size 9 torps,

[somber wren]

I'd put my money on polaris

[dim narwhal]

Turns a salvo of 4 into 12

Now thats alot, especially mixed with missiles

Now you have a swarm of torps and missiles

and a dead idris

Again, I said a few,

You didn't listen

You decided to assume.

So, as i say again, cope.

And if you remember, YOu said numerically player to player polaris to idris, the idris is better, I refuted that by saying two man to the equivilant of the polaris max crew, and you'd win

No, You gave a numerical value, saying idris requires same people to win againts polaris, so i took the polaris crew, cut it to two and added that many polaris's to match tthe amount of players.

Now if we do Ship vs ship. purely 1 v 1, I already said idris wins, So i could care less

But YOU gave the response of, idris is more effective with less, So I refuted that

with multiple 2 man polaris's vs an idris, Less people then the idris total

More damage,

dead idirs

I refuted two completely different arguments, so you are now shifting the goal post.

[somber wren]

I'd say polaris wins that

There's cheek mounted missiles on the polaris which could be used to help saturate the PDS

[dim narwhal]

Yeah but a single polaris wont have enough swarm to deal with idirs pds

^

[somber wren]

True, realistically maybe it's a 50/50

[dim narwhal]

idk, 50/50 on a bad crew.

for idris

[somber wren]

But I heavily agree with @rain carbon that polaris is pretty underwhelming rn

[dim narwhal]

I disagree, but everyone has their own opinion

[somber wren]

Polaris is marketed as a cap ship hunter, why shouldn't it be able to 1v1 an idris and win most of the time?

Besides the hangar bay, the idris' main scary bit is the mass driver, avoid that and polaris likely gets the W

[dim narwhal]

Because its punching up, punching up shouldn't be solo

Yeah, but HP, armor, shielding, and turret sizes.

It counters polaris missiles and torps so it removes the main damage of it

alone

[shell ocean]

I have a polaris which i will melt for a perseus when it releases

[torpid iron]

I feel like most of the people complaining don’t even know the purpose of the ship and now are complaining they don’t have an instant win vs everything button.

[fierce arrow]

Anti capital ship. So why did it lose 2 of its larger guns mounted on the shoulders and its anti fighter defense, something capital ships often hold a lot of?

[torpid iron]

Because it has anti capital torps. Lol it’s not that hard to figure out.

[fierce arrow]

And, it always has them. But if capital ships often carry fighters, then it requires anti fighter defenses to be an effective counter to capture ships.

[torpid iron]

It would be in a fleet with an anti fighter screen and/or other fighters.

It’s not meant to single handedly take on an Idris and all support ships solo.

[fierce arrow]

That… is entirely wrong.

[torpid iron]

How so? Everything I read and watched before making a chain came to that conclusion.

Did you not source the right materials when you researched or did you just see the video of it blowing up an Idris and immediately click ‘buy’?

[fierce arrow]

What materials did you see?

[torpid iron]

YouTube videos of old guys reacting to the release announcement.

[fierce arrow]

I… am not watching boomer reaction videos.

Official sources only.

[torpid iron]

Well next time I suggest broadening your research because one of us is entirely happy with the ship still based on prior research and another is crying that a rug was pulled out from under them. ☺️

[rigid brook]

Well we’ll find out Thursday if cig intends Polaris to be doa

[proper junco]

https://youtu.be/72PpGVIezCA

after looking at this

i am sure u can have better turret placements

the underside is totally under gunned

give back those 2 missing turrets

[fierce arrow]

A rug was pulled out from under me! 3 out of my 9 total turrets were removed! Regardless of its purpose, I do expect the thing on the box to be included in the box.

[proper junco]

the 2 s4 turrets just might have angle to shoot the same target at the front along with the s5

underside there just 2 defenses the s5 and the remote quad s3

missile pod 2 underneath?

missiles dont even track well

would be nice if missile tracking was aggressive enough to make tight turns

now those are anti fighter missiles

[patent galleon]

It has 7 turrets on the current model, that's 2 missing, not 3.

[patent galleon]

Doesn't help the underside unless they're moved though. The initial concept had a top rear gun turret alongside the bottom rear one that's still there, and I think the second missile turret was up top as well.

[dim narwhal]

As I stated, the polaris does exactly as it's intended to do, and not be an idris replacement as you and everyone else who is upset wants.

It's not meant to be an idris replacement on a single scale, meant to out dps the idris in fleet situations. Let me state again, FLEET. Which is what UEE focuses around, not single ship combat.

[proper junco]

bingo it was a top and bottom missile pod

top had 3 turrets + missile pod

[proper junco]

bottom had 2 turrets + a missile pod if we go by this in the previous page

the missile pod in front of the hangar would have been cool ngl

and more centralized

automated probably meant remote 🤷

[patent galleon]

That does help, but not by that much.

Most of the Polaris fire is still forward/top aligned.

Hopefully if they do bring back the other turret it can be placed along the keel where it can help defend the underside

[proper junco]

un nerf pls

[fierce arrow]

2 on each of the shoulders and the one on top was replaced by the missile turret which was moved back.

[fierce arrow]

Were removed.

[fierce arrow]

What about teh 2 forward under front turrets just like on the top?

[patent galleon]

...no, there were 5 manned turrets, now there are 4. They also dropped one missile rack and downgraded the other. That's two turrets removed

[fierce arrow]

What about the 2 front turrets which go under the two top turrets from the diagram above?

[patent galleon]

Those are there, they retract when not in use

[fierce arrow]

The two side turrets where removed and the rear top turret was removed. The missile rack was moved back for no reason.

[fierce arrow]

They still are? Ok, that is good.

[patent galleon]

The side turrets are still there

[fierce arrow]

Weren't they removed??

[proper junco]

still there

[fierce arrow]

If they are still there, then what else other than the top rear turret was removed?

[proper junco]

what they removed was the top rear turret and replaced it with missile pod 1
then removed missile pod 2 under the cargo bay

[fierce arrow]

Why??

[patent galleon]

Top rear manned turret and bottom missile pod

[proper junco]

cig things

i thought the 2 missile pods in central position were perfect

top and bottom coverage for anti fighters

they had s3 and 16 missiles

now its s2 and 12 missiles

[patent galleon]

I'm okay with one less missile turret but they should keep it S3 and up the capacity, not lower it.

Missile turrets are kind of meh anyway and something the co-pilot or engineer can pop off in their spare time, but as a heavily limited resource, having someone manning it full time is kind of a waste.

Unless they're something pilot controlled

[fierce arrow]

It's the loss of the top laser turret which is unacceptable to me.

The missiles are mid but did it gain nose missiles or no?

[proper junco]

the nose racks seems to have always been there

[fierce arrow]

Hmm...

What size are those?

[proper junco]

doesnt say in the brochure

rn theyre s3 missiles

okay which is kinda weird

s3 are still for fighters

will they work for connie sized ships?

or connie sized ships needs s5?

cuz u wont really be nosing at fighters in a capital so why an unmovable missile rack at the nose?

[fierce arrow]

S5 hopefully? Just like Perseus has right?

[proper junco]

nope theyre s3

[patent galleon]

They were listed as anti-fighter missiles

So S3 makes sense
But we really need more missile capacity if they're there to shoot fighters

[proper junco]

gonna need an external camera to lock on to fighters around the ship

cuz they arent staying at the nose

[fierce arrow]

[patent galleon]

Its rear mounted and should be able to traverse, though the new position is blocked on the sides by the engines.

[fierce arrow]

You mean the missile turret?

[proper junco]

[patent galleon]

Yeah, the anti fighter missile turret.

[proper junco]

what about the front racks

[patent galleon]

Those are the big torps

[untold gorge]

There are front racks for smaller missiles above torpedoes tubes

[rigid brook]

Hot take:
Dual size 6 nose
Dual size 5 top turrets
Quad size 4 side turrets
Dual size 4 rear top and bottom turrets
Missile turret size 3 top front of hangar

[patent galleon]

On the current model?

[fierce arrow]

The Missile turret was moved to the back of the hangar and the top turret removed for whatever reason.

[rigid brook]

That’s why I’m saying move missile turret to front of hangar and put rear top turret back

[fierce arrow]

Why was it changed? Spite??

[untold gorge]

Yes

Each side has 2 torp tubes and 8 missile tubes

Off axis headtracking locks for this ship will be crazy, hope they don’t remove them

[patent galleon]

Oh wait those top tubes aren't the Size 9/10s?

Okay I just checked Erkul and hot damn

That's an interesting change

So original concept was
• 4x S10 Torpedo Tubes (7 torps each)
• 5x Manned Turrets (Twin S4 Weapons)
• 1x Remote Manned Turret (Twin S5 Weapons)
• 1x Automated Turret (Twin S4 Weapons)
• 2x Anti-Fighter Missile Racks, each carrying 16x S3 Missiles

Now we have
• 4x S10 Torpedo Tubes (7 torps each)
• 2x Manned Turrets (Twin S4 Weapons)
• 1x Remote Manned Turret (Twin S5 Weapons)
• 2x Manned Turrets (Quad S3 Weapons)
• 1x Automated Turret (Quad S3 Weapons)
• 1x Anti-Fighter Missile Turret (12x S2 Missiles)
• 2x Forward-Mounted Missile Racks (8x S3 Missiles each)

[untold gorge]

No the bottom ones are the torp tubes

[patent galleon]

Yeah I had them confused for the main tubes

[untold gorge]

I think people are making a huge fuss over the sizes really. Could argue we got upgraded from og concept.

Also what is an automated turret? Will that shoot down reds by itself?

[mossy yoke]

i asked at q&a but no pick for anwser... i think there is a ask devs aswell about "automated"...

[patent galleon]

Probably just a remote turret.

It's listed as Automated in the old listings.

[mossy yoke]

but both are used same time in the descriptions, so it needs to differ from remote

[mossy yoke]

since its a patrol ship-flagship

it may get better shilds as defence line, to hold longer and still go fast!

so till HP armor effect and shilds are not knowen, you cant give a over all performance compare to other ships

[rigid brook]

Tbh they should just demote Polaris it’s clearly not a military cap if it’s just barely a 1 trick pony that 90% of the time will have to run away cause it can only poke and pray above its weight or be target practice below its weight, literally just a sub cap bigger retaliator with cargo space

[mossy yoke]

there are some lover to hater converters... wow

this game is so unfinished, it will be more than once going under balancing rework...

its to early saying something is bad or good

[proper junco]

Lasers still will never go through shields right?

[mossy yoke]

after you could test some scenarios and your traind OP hunan crew cant win a fight... com back and give feedback

[dim narwhal]

@untold gorge No, Automated turrets are the remote turrets, if its not then it is a PDS. or Point defense system.

[patent galleon]

Range and Penetration values are still up in the air and will change over time as things get balanced to be fair. Long term it'll be a matter of loadout as well as size class.
At the moment it does seem like they're likely going to rebalance a bunch. In the Engineering AC Test, all the MXA series Laser Cannons have the same range regardless of size, though its yet to be seen if that will stick.

[dim narwhal]

ballistics dont completely bypass shields, shields still add a massive damage reduction to ballistics.

[patent galleon]

Yup, they don't intend to keep that but it's all part of testing.

And getting the balance between large and small ships right.

[dim narwhal]

Its where it is supposed to be.

[lilac swan]

this doesn't make is sound that much of a downgrade

ill take the quads

definitely makes the ship more imposing

[patent galleon]

From a pure damage number standpoint it's arguably an upgrade, but as mentioned by others the quad Size 3s does mean higher efficiency of damage reduction when shooting someone with full power to shields and shorter range with the current values.

Sidegrade/slight downgrade.

[mossy yoke]

well, maybe there will be options to switch between quad s3 or doual s4, because modularity should get a thing

[mossy yoke]

modularit exchange torpedoes against twin s8 massdriver 😂 gg

[lilac swan]

they probably realize how overpowered the ship sounded on paper instead of testing it out in the game first

[pallid acorn]

how do you use precsaion target?

[proper junco]

Left alt right click

[dreamy linden]

They mentioned they're looking at up-gunning it in the ISC

Hope nobody melted it early :P

[halcyon estuary]

I think someone even left the group!

[mossy yoke]

@rain carbon your cheerinc now! or ;-7

congrats

[patent galleon]

Manual loading of torps basically confirmed.

[rigid brook]

What a W for Polaris

Watch they just replace aft missile turret with normal turret
CIG: we did it bois we fixed Polaris

[proper junco]

They are looking into a potential up gunning of the turrets so it can also pack a punch with its guns yeaaa babbyy

manual loading is just weird for a ship in 2954

i mean if they did work so much on visuals and animations I wanna see the torps load themselves mechanically too

so happy the hangar gets an ATC

it would be hilarious if u cant reload the Polaris torps cuz u forgot to bring a tractor beam

"any yall brought a tractor beam?"
"uhh no?"

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-damn-alright-gif-25731846

[dreamy linden]

I personally think the tractor beam thing might just have been to show stuff off? But I'm not sure

[patent galleon]

Hopefully it's like a magazine/ammo feed.

[proper junco]

im sure its there for manually replacing torps or putting in more torps from cargo or something

[patent galleon]

So you have the 7 torps per tube loaded in and then as you fire you can load in more.

[proper junco]

like how missiles can be removed by beaming them

[patent galleon]

As opposed to 21 missiles in racks at the bottom of a cargo lift and 4 in the tubes.

[proper junco]

would like a revolver style loading mechanism and the officer can rotate the magazine to manually do stuff to the thing

rapid fire torps

glad they didnt put the damn connie struts in the middle of the bridge

[patent galleon]

Seems like what's going on in the footage we have at the least

The torpedo tube behind looks to have more than one torp loaded in

[proper junco]

Seems like it

Wonder if those are final art for s10

Gone are the days of trex arm turrets

[dense grotto]

your week of arguements and telling players off finally paid off 😌

[proper junco]

Tbf for a capital ship it really is under gunned

Hell smaller ships has better guns for their size

It would be giga if we get a s7 nose turret

Just so it wont look like trex arms

[pallid acorn]

its like a soviet tank autoloader

[sharp raven]

WOOOO

BETTER TURRETS

IM SO HAPPY TO HEAR

ALSO 3RD DECK, LIKE I SAID

I also think its sick that the torpedoes have to be manually loaded

( as long as they dont do like 500k damage)

[sharp raven]

Doubtful, but maybe it will allow for repairing and refueling for specific ships and in quantities? For example

You've only got 50% quantum fuel left, so you split it between 2 fighters so that they have just enough to warp and refuel at another station

[fiery pine]

a small tractor beam turret controlled by a loadmaster that slides on a rail from the front to the back of the cargo bay ceiling would be nice

[patent galleon]

Looks like it's for rearming too. You can see 2 torps loaded in one of the tubes and it looks like there's space for another on the other side.
So 6 Torps per rotary autoloader, and one in the barrel itself, which matches up with the original concept specs.

[fiery pine]

this aged well...

[fierce arrow]

890J ATC when?

[fierce arrow]

Don’t worry, I got it back. And still have LTI as well… and also bought an Idris P and Javelin.

Why only have 1 combat capital ship when it could have 3.

[halcyon estuary]

Amazing what a bit of clarity from the devs can do.

[fierce arrow]

Javelin was Store Credit. Idris P was Warbond… K kit was Store Credit. And Polaris is back… for store credit.

[halcyon estuary]

"that was my plan all along, I swear!"

[fierce arrow]

My plan was Store Credit Javelin and Polaris + Arrastra to Idris P + K. I got to wave 2 with no ships so bought an Idris P for Warbond and finally got the Jav at 1AM. Then rebought the Polaris because why not.

[untold gorge]

Yeah wow I don’t see how they avoid a turret upgunning after that statement

“Hold its own against capital ships” is pretty crazy

[sharp raven]

Exactly, no clue how it ever got through 😭

Hammerhead has more DPS in like 4 turrets

Than the Polaris had in all 7 of them

[untold gorge]

But the whole point of the hammerhead is turret dps output, not its torpedo bay

[sharp raven]

Sure but are you really going to waste a S10 torp on something like a C2?

[untold gorge]

Undoubtably, silly question

[sharp raven]

Flares and chaff (are currently way too op) and can cause anything to lose course

One noise and the C2 can get away

[untold gorge]

Mantis in hangar bay

Yeah pull it out

[sharp raven]

^^

It'll take too long to deploy

"Idris but smaller" I'd agree to an extent, yeah

[untold gorge]

Mantis shows up, beelines for c2, quantum dampens, Polaris shows up

[sharp raven]

Okay but im gonna be honest, Idris-P loadout is so depressing

[fierce arrow]

Torpedos it can barely use on a sub cap.

[sharp raven]

Fair enough

[fierce arrow]

It is. Pathetic. Even K is pretty sad.

It gets more PD but still loses a lot of its lasers and they are much smaller.

PDs are small. What about anti ship turrets?

[sharp raven]

2 extra PD isn't worth the damn railgun and (S7?) guns 😭

As well as S5's

[fierce arrow]

S7s.

[sharp raven]

Its a spinal beam, not a railgun if i recall

[fierce arrow]

S7s > S5s and we get less S5s as well.

K.

[sharp raven]

You said K, and edited it

[fierce arrow]

P gets nothing but should obviously be upgraded to K.

[sharp raven]

Im talking about the M-K

[fierce arrow]

K has the beam. M has the rail. P has… ✨Nothing.✨

[sharp raven]

Not the M-P

Beam < Railgun

[fierce arrow]

M gets S7 turrets and a Railgun and larger turret. K gets S5 turrets, no railgun, and no large turret on the front.

[fierce arrow]

Less range, so called Huge power draw, and less over all turrets.

And M gets cruise missiles as well.

[sharp raven]

Smaller my ass though, Polaris is still pretty damn big

[fierce arrow]

18 Ammo is plenty.

[fierce arrow]

True. But it has worse turret coverage by a lot.

[sharp raven]

Railgun has ammo? So happy to hear

[fierce arrow]

Which is a pretty big amount. Like 2 Spirits in length.

[sharp raven]

Thats only like 2.5 blue whales

[fierce arrow]

And?

[sharp raven]

Lmao, glad you liked it

[untold gorge]

I don’t get people saying they’ll crew their javelin or Idris with AI blades when they said in the qanda that it was in the far future

[fierce arrow]

And so are the Idris and Javelins.

[untold gorge]

They are in active development though, ai blades don’t even sound like a feature they are set on

[patent galleon]

They do have the ship computer as a component slot on ships and have talked about them enough in the past that they'll probably get developed at some point.

[fierce arrow]

AI blades are set in stone and will appear for remote turrets.

[fierce arrow]

Isn’t Idris completed? Is Javelin completed?

[untold gorge]

Javelin is in sq42 and actually in live as an npc

[patent galleon]

'completed'

[fierce arrow]

Interior completed?

Or is there time for a rework?

Because I’m not impressed with what it has currently

[patent galleon]

It's got plenty of zones which aren't done inside, but given it's the first mission area for S42 you're better off hoping for a 2024 S42 release date than a rework.

[lilac swan]

my week is complete

polaris is looking good

turrets are getting upgraded

the bridge looks sexy

[patent galleon]

Torpedo loading!

[lilac swan]

3rd floor from the trailer

and manual torp loading

i love the idea of it being manual

that gives the loader much more of a fun task

[patent galleon]

It looks both manual without being a chore, because you can pre-load it (and it'll probably be loaded when you restock)

[lilac swan]

so realistically at the bare minimum you can get away with 3-4 crew in the polaris

[patent galleon]

And if you do burn through all 28 Torps in one combat, you can load more.

[lilac swan]

1 pilot
1 torp operator
1 loader
optional engineer

[patent galleon]

Torp Operator and Engineer both doubling as loader when needed makes sense to me.

[lilac swan]

i wish the bridge was the size of the concept, but at least the actual thing looks pretty damn good

[lilac swan]

so 3 crew it is then

[patent galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139296571188596756/1243242931855425576/image.png?ex=66516c75&is=66501af5&hm=ca0274e6d4d66d42161e6ca003e8c1317bb56e6d75d97add52fc9f0ba41033c7&

There's a rotary ammo feed looking thing for the Torps with 2 loaded to the right. I reckon it holds 6 in total, and 1 in the central tube.

[lilac swan]

CIG is giving me hope 🥲

[patent galleon]

I imagine it'll be a task for between engagements, or if you're absolutely vomiting torpedos at someone.

[fierce arrow]

Restored back to normal.

[lilac swan]

imagine the stock torps are abysmal and pretty much useless due to "balance"

[lilac swan]

thats still an upgrade

[patent galleon]

Hoping they let us rearm the missile racks to the side of the cockpit as well, combining them with the Torps seems like good way to confuse and overwhelm point defences

[fierce arrow]

No. Prehistoric. Play WW1 game?

[lilac swan]

from what it was changed to

[proper junco]

Manual reloading confirmed?

[lilac swan]

i just went off what it looked like

ive played more than enough modded arma so if it is real it shouldn't be too daunting in a battle

[fierce arrow]

It didn’t shrink, did it??

[lilac swan]

the concept looks way bigger

[proper junco]

There seemed to be a small lift to get torps from cargo for really extended fights

[fierce arrow]

Pls no.

[proper junco]

Blank torps when

[fierce arrow]

No… it’s normal. Not a downgrade but normal.

[lilac swan]

an upgrade from what they changed it to basically

[proper junco]

They said they wanted the polaris guns to hold up against capital targets

[lilac swan]

reverting it is better than what it was changed to

[proper junco]

Hopefully we re getting more than s5

[fierce arrow]

Yes.

[fierce arrow]

S7 nose?

[proper junco]

Pls s7 nose uwu

[lilac swan]

slap on 10 s10 quad turrets and call it a day cig

[fierce arrow]

UwU

[fierce arrow]

Render this pls.

[lilac swan]

i absolutely wish i knew how to do that

[patent galleon]

I'm okay with a S6 Nose and S5 top turrets.

But I hope we get more elevation traversal on the side turrets.

[lilac swan]

we should do a polaris meetup like that one time i was with this streamer and we had like 20 or 30 something 890j's

[proper junco]

Totes

Then we fire at an 890j a whole salvo

[lilac swan]

absolutely

[patent galleon]

20 Polarises, 1 ERT

[fierce arrow]

S7 nose, re add the rear top turret, give them back the S4s, and give the side turrets S7s as well.

[fierce arrow]

1 Polaris could do it.

[proper junco]

From the looks of it the side and upper turrets can also shoot all the way to the front right?

[patent galleon]

Yeah, the Polaris is like a spearhead with most of the firepower facing forward from the looks of it.

Nose, Top, and Sides all look like they can engage a larger frontal target.

[proper junco]

Nice

[patent galleon]

Though the sides probably won't do much to CapShip armour lmao.

[lilac swan]

tempted to put like 10 merlins in the hangar and just fly around with those gnats

i engage with someone and they just get swarmed

[proper junco]

Furies in the hangar and cargo bay

[lilac swan]

i forgot about the cargo bay....

thats a lot of furies.....

[proper junco]

The pilot just taps the open all doors button and the swarm has been agitated

[lilac swan]

that genuinely sounds like nightmare fuel

imagine being a new pilot and accidentally tapping your mouse and then getting obliterated by like 80 s1 weapons

[proper junco]

Furies are s2 arent they?

[lilac swan]

oh my bad

they're so tiny i mix them up

[proper junco]

Just getting that connie swarmed with tons of furies

[lilac swan]

poor connies man

i love that ship its just so weak against light fighters

first time i flew one solo i had to people sit on my ass and i couldnt touch them at all 😭

[proper junco]

Yep lmao

Thats how i beat the 400i with a rental f8c

[lilac swan]

is the F8C any good with mastermodes

[proper junco]

It took a while cuz the ballistics were already empty

[lilac swan]

ive heard mixed things

[proper junco]

Yes and no

With it turn rates it certainly isnt unbeatable now

[lilac swan]

i love the design and idea but if its trash i might as well not go through the effort and but a hornet instead

[proper junco]

U can tackle connie sized ships with patience and still have some threat against fighters

U can certainly be out maneuvered by lighter fighters for sure but if they make a mistake and stay on nose for a bit u can delete them

[lilac swan]

coming from war thunder and dcs i love delta wing fighters that bleed speed but have the upper hand in any turn fight

[proper junco]

The f7a is really good cuz it has the mobility vs larger ships and the firepower vs smaller ones

[lilac swan]

dope

ive been looking for a hangar fighter

currently my fleet is a polaris and a zeus mk2 es

[proper junco]

My f7a is my hangar fighter

[patent galleon]

When I get my Polaris I'm going to try to squeeze both an F8 and an F7 in the hangar

[lilac swan]

so what were the main benifits of spending $1000

i know you get sq42 for free

im like 80 away and just wanna know what to look forward to

[proper junco]

A gold arc light pistol

And game access to pu

Pretty sure they removed sq42

[patent galleon]

That's the neat part you don't

You get to melt your game package and still play, and you get a gold plated arclight pistol, a top hat, and a monocle

That's it.

[proper junco]

I actually kinda want the pistol

[mossy yoke]

that would put perseus in a bad spot, dont think well go higher than s6

[proper junco]

Right now with how ballistics have their damage reduced by shields

Idk how perseus will do damage without any laser weaponry

Those are bespoke right?

Maybe anti shield ballistic ammo

Then swap to anti armor ammo after

Would be nice to have ballistics and torps that specifically target shields etc

[mossy yoke]

hm the ironclad could get the better carrier beside polaris and liberator, if it can be refitted for hangar maintenance tools like rearm/repair i might switch...

[frank lily]

WOO HOO HOO

PEW PEW PEW PEW MUDFUKA

[frank lily]

Bring on the GUNS BABEEEE

Sorry what

oh up there furhter

further

I still look at the Pussyious like a FRAMMING Frigate.... FRAMMING SCHPEEEED...

is it? i havent even looked at teh stats - it doesnt interest me... i much prefer the carrier type capitals

... and the lore around the Polly being the militia type roughneck front line ship is pretty cool - or how ever they word it

[proper junco]

Saying the perseus is useless cuz Polaris gets s7 guns is like saying the redeemer or other gunships is useless cuz the HH exists isnt it?

Im sure the perseus will have her place in the verse just as any ship will

Otherwise we should just get javs and thats the whole game

[mossy yoke]

not usless, but if perseus will be the same prize its out of scope... if later you can affort 2x perseus or 1x polaris it might be okay

[proper junco]

True its expensive

650?

675?

[lilac swan]

whatttt i thought it said that on the list thing 😭

[lilac swan]

i think the perseus will go up to $775 or $750 on release

though its smaller than a hammerhead i feel like they may put it higher

they say its soloable so it might be pretty viable

[rigid brook]

comparing the ursa to the door looks like that kills any nova tonk dreams

[fierce arrow]

No??

[rigid brook]

i mean nova tank is so much more taller then ursa

[fierce arrow]

Where was this shown?

[rigid brook]

this week isc right after they finished talking about ironclad

[proper junco]

The ineterior preview

[lilac swan]

the door is a bit far away so there's hope

[patent galleon]

Its also visibly at an angle

[coral rover]

Lord have mercy...

[frank lily]

HOOOO RAAAAA

POLARIS UNITE into ROBERTSATRON

[untold gorge]

@fierce arrow up to you whether it fits, i say no

[dim narwhal]

Yeah thats way to tight,

if the front dips at all, it wont fit.

[fierce arrow]

Maybe.

[blazing fiber]

Just send it I’m sure it’ll fit

[fierce arrow]

Agreed.

I tractor beamed 2 M7As into a Cutlass Red. It can’t be that bad.

[sick condor]

Hello fellow polaris enjoyers

[frank lily]

thats a yes to me...! lol

[frank lily]

Hey Space Mate

[untold gorge]

good looking ship or what

[fierce arrow]

Send 3D model. Is there an interior?

[untold gorge]

files half a gig

no interior really

except for some torpedo stuff

[fierce arrow]

Interesting.

Well a 3D print might be nice.

[frank lily]

ENGINES + GUNS + TORPS + HANGAR = FUNZIES...!!

[fiery pine]

cant believe I said this and then they release the ironclad concept with tractor beams that move on two axes above the cargo bay

[proper junco]

the tractor beam on rails should have been on the caterpillar in the first place

guess rail tech isnt in yet

[untold gorge]

almost like they designed all the ships before they designed the gameplay to go with them...

[frank lily]

Rails on any ship = WIN WIN... Ohhh a tractor beam.. gotcha... 🙂

[dense grotto]

petition for all us polaris enjoyers (even those who dont own one) to group up, crew a bunch of them and cause havok in the vers': ✅

[polar trench]

@untold gorge send more polaris pics

[untold gorge]

What kinda ones you want lol

I can do whatever

[polar trench]

sexy angles

more just more >:)

that turret on the bottom nose looks kinda small

they better make it a size 7

[untold gorge]

Should be getting up gunned

They mentioned it

[polar trench]

the lighting they showed this polaris off with in the expo hall was atrocious

your blender lighting setup is noice

[lilac swan]

someone's gonna find a way

[spice moon]

full speed ahead

[polar trench]

kinda looks like a carrack

dorito version

[lilac swan]

correction

the carrack looks like a fatter polaris

[fierce arrow]

It’s the bridge design.

All of the combat capitals bridges look like the Carracks. Or more to the point, the Carrack was the first of many.

[polar trench]

polaris needs to fit a tonk, no?

[fierce arrow]

Yes. But does it?

[polar trench]

looks a bit too tight, but they better make the hole bigger

tonk is my favourite

[proper junco]

Would be nice to, its a versatile capital ship

[polar trench]

can we dumbfire nuke torpedoes to ground targets like the a2

[fierce arrow]

Storm should still fit. Storm is the superior tonk.

[fierce arrow]

Probably.

[polar trench]

to deploy the tonk on the ground

The polaris is a W

[mossy yoke]

a flagship better is a w

[lilac swan]

storm seems more like what a polaris would carry

maybe they made the doors tight just so people would buy a storm

[proper junco]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/alpha-3-22-patch-watch-antares-arsenal-boom/399238

https://tenor.com/view/dizzillee-eyebrows-eyebrow-raise-eyebrow-waggle-eyebrow-wiggle-gif-25220588

[untold gorge]

Yeah well you could do that with head tracking anyway

It’s good they don’t lock a competitive advantage behind a $300 device…

Oh wait the game is pay to win

[polar trench]

what do you think the new polaris price is gonna be when it gets released

[proper junco]

800+ at least

[coral rover]

Maybe like, 900

between 900 and 1k

[proper junco]

truth

999

[rigid brook]

950 on the dot

[coral rover]

890 is 950 bucks from what I can remember

but at the same time that doesn't really have any gameplay

maybe 1k at most but I'm sticking in the range of 900-1k

[royal hemlock]

hows it going polaris people

[polar trench]

got a ccu chain to get the polaris 53% off

[marsh tree]

https://gyazo.com/b06cfaaa588b85ec69cd68f9e04acb02

getting there

[proper junco]

What are the chances I can cram the argo tracto in the ramp. Considering its 1m less height than the nova

[sharp raven]

YES

I OWN ONE

[fierce arrow]

How? It's only the 28th!

[proper junco]

My 375 polaris gonna go up in price when its released W

[sharp raven]

I didn't understand what you meant

But now I do lmao

No clue why it says MAY 29th

They all do

No clue what is up with it

[fierce arrow]

The date says it was acquired on the 29th.

[proper junco]

Its the 29 th today in my country

[sharp raven]

I'm from the future

[sharp raven]

Nah its the 28th

Liar

[proper junco]

Damn u from the past hows it like living there

[west imp]

still 1 and a half hours until 29th

you guys got scammed

they stole 1 and a half hours from you

[sharp raven]

Man, It's alright, no new world disasters yet

[proper junco]

Ill be sure to tell u so u can prepare

[sage rover]

Would a cutlass black fit in the polaris? 👀
It would make for a good dropship.

[royal hemlock]

[polar trench]

so how do we get the nova tonk into the hangar, and how do we get it out

that’s the question

[west imp]

the most you might be able to fit in there is something like a vulture

[lilac swan]

im expecting $925 for the polaris

the 890j is 950 and since the polaris is smaller and not luxury i think it will come shy of the price of it

[austere gull]

Military ships are often quite expensive, a C2 costs 400$, while an A2 costs 750$ today.
So I tend to think that the Polaris would actually go higher in price than the 890J

[lilac swan]

so 1050 or 1075 is my guess

i doubt it'll go to the price of the idris

maybe 1150 if they push it

[austere gull]

yeah me too

[blazing fiber]

With Polaris possibly crossing 1000 do we think that may open the door to ccu to things over 1000?

[fierce arrow]

No.

When??

[proper junco]

Hope the Polaris medbay is just as looking good as the Idris

[sharp raven]

The Polaris medbay is GREEN

Why is it GREEN

Green doesn't mean health

red does

[proper junco]

its veggies

[sharp raven]

Green means kale smoothies with yoga

[proper junco]

hope theres white at least

[proper junco]

ill take that thanks

[sharp raven]

np

no

But grimhex is green

Its teal?

Idk man, Im colorblind

[proper junco]

you know what ill look for more of the medbay pics

[polar trench]

i’m craving for a polaris

[mossy yoke]

how much "Furys" can fit in the polaris?

hm, if one Hornet fits, it can be 6+ Furys... nice

[somber wren]

guys get out of the grand hall of healing in my polaris

[rigid brook]

I hope we get light and dark grey paint with yellow windows as a paint

[west imp]

I'm honestly hoping for some classic RSI paints

albeit, I would like a light blue and black instead of the dark blue and black type

[proper junco]

Black and gold

Concierge paint

[untold gorge]

the game files polaris is almost black

i dont know if thats a render issue

[untold gorge]

very dark

im hoping for a silver/white skin

[untold gorge]

anyways polaris is dead if these torp changes stay around

yogi and the team keep pushing the boundary of what's possible with these MM changes. Really feeling positive on the flightmodel!

[spice cliff]

What torp changes?

[untold gorge]

s9 torp top speed 130 mps

you can get outside your ship, hold onto the wing and fart your ship away before a torp can hit you

also the minimum lock distance is 5k, so it will take minimum 40 seconds to hit your target

[spice cliff]

Yea thats slow asf, most cap ships could easily outrun that

[untold gorge]

just shows the devs dont play their game and have no idea what MM is supposed to look like

I might take a break until this MM stuff is over, for good or bad

[spice cliff]

Well whats the average expected speed of another cap ship? Think thats gonna be the main factor tbh

[untold gorge]

polaris is 210

without boost

[spice cliff]

Yea thats rough

[untold gorge]

you leave in the bugged hornet strafe even though you are aware of it, but go all hamfisted on nerfing missiles and torps?

[proper junco]

Polaris is special to have high scm speeds

Idris has like 45 rn

The 6 thrusters at the back are for chasing after all

In other words, Polaris was designed to be faster than most ships of its size

Imagine if they made torps extra tanky instead

A slow and unstoppable force is approaching

[spice cliff]

Yea see that was my thing, yea 130 for a torp is slow but if an idris is in SCM i didnt think it could outrun a torp, as crazy as some of the shits been, i dont see CIG making an almost 1k USD ship that can barely take out other ships

[proper junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004925567478542407/1165437663730479114/ezgif-4-d7ea5ce9d5.gif?ex=6546d967&is=65346467&hm=fc5d28c060cd2f688099ad01751156acee5985acacedd9c5476050468e6faac9&

[frank lily]

FKN RAAAGH - Love that graphic....

[fierce arrow]

And Javelin?

[untold gorge]

We don’t know jav scm speeds really

Could be high

[frank lily]

I want to stealth the fuck out of my Polly with a BLOPs fleet and drop on a dude in his Javelin - Be like PEW PEW PEW - 6 torps from 6 Pollies and c u l8trz...!!

[polar trench]

what’s a blop

[polar trench]

How long is it btw, according to this model from the game files

[untold gorge]

It’s 166

[halcyon estuary]

Do you have access to the Ironclad model files?

[untold gorge]

Ironclad has never been in game

[halcyon estuary]

I love your Polaris render, would be amazing to see it next to the Ironclad.

[polar trench]

i'm sending my polaris torps at all rainbows

[frank lily]

Black Ops

[dreamy linden]

It's an EVE term

[frank lily]

Ack aye laddy - twin sins for the win... 😉

[proper junco]

I love the art

Npc is totally me

[sharp raven]

My honest reaction to everything:

[coral rover]

Polaris 🤤

[royal hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-high-five-yes-oh-hell-gif-14324160

[frank lily]

MATES MATES MATES - Start at 14:24

BIGGER GUNS FOR THE POLARIS BABY YEA....!!!!!!!

WOOOOO HOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO]

https://youtu.be/GU9hwD7ZjHc?feature=shared&t=864

FUCK YEA

VOTE NUMBER ONE - SHIP OF THE YEAR - CALLING IT NOW - 08 JUNE 2024...!!! SKINS R US

IM have to refirb the ole game testing lab to make some vids for this bay BOI...!!!

Jarrods Legal Face:

So it must be TRUE

and with a snazzy new haircut

[spice cliff]

polaris getting size 20 guns?

[frank lily]

Size 44

i may or may not be exagerating here.. perhaps i may have heard them wrong??

[spice cliff]

need a size 50 planet buster