Galaxy Gang

[lost veldt]

it will just come, nothing more nothing less

[rain trail]

galaxy will be great

[keen hill]

This will be my large ship. 🙂

[rain trail]

we could actually get our ship next year, isn't that crazy?

i honestly doubt but damn it does make me excited

[serene spindle]

why wouldn't we? Polaris is done. maybe they started galaxy already who knows

and polaris assets will speed up galaxy too

[wraith sapphire]

and the zeus stuff too. I think Galaxy is probably within reach before next Citcon, if not sooner

[serene spindle]

it's the main concept of next year (atm) so I doubt they'll release it for a small event. Either citcon or IAE (ILW is too soon)

[supple willow]

i wonder if they ever start from the website holo viewer model when they go to work on a new ship

[rain trail]

base building

oh give me my fucking galaxy already i cant wait

[rain trail]

has anybody seen the galaxy in the tease?

[tacit glade]

I didn't notice it. Perseus though and I thought that was planned after Galaxy

[coral lotus]

did they even mention galaxy at all? like why not....

[wraith sapphire]

Absolutely nothing on the Galaxy at all. Really concerned at this point, given that they featured it in the base building panel last year

[fickle dagger]

i feel like its been dropped for the starlancer BLD

i hope it still gets base building

[tacit glade]

Feel like 600i rework was dropped for it too

[fickle dagger]

that was dropped ages ago

it was a concept

[serene spindle]

galaxy got shelved. Perseus pushed

[wraith sapphire]

What’s more concerning is that it didn’t even make the 12 month pipeline teasers

[fickle dagger]

probs cuz more want percy idk tho

[rain trail]

yeah

damn bruh

[light kraken]

Yeah seems they don't care about us.

[serene spindle]

well it's more profitable to sell multiple specialized ships than one modular ship that does nothing good and is a pain to balance

[stoic inlet]

Where??

[rain trail]

that's what im asking

[fickle dagger]

nah

[analog cedar]

guys guys guys

in the tease were SOME of the ships coming in the next 12 months, and this was emphasised by whoever was speaking. not ALL of them were shown. there is still hope

[serene spindle]

you really think they wouldn't tease it knowing how wanted it is?

hopium is good. but let's be real we didn't heard of it since a year and this citcon would have been the exact moment to keep the hype up about galaxy

[stoic inlet]

They said Polaris mid 2024, Galaxy late 2024, Perseus end 2024 or early 2025.

[serene spindle]

They never said that xD

[stoic inlet]

Last Citcon!

[serene spindle]

Nope they gave theborder they would work on ships but never said a date except for Polaris which was "withing 12 months"

But be my guest find the moment they said that and give me a link. Ill happily reflect

[stoic inlet]

I cannot. It is too difficult to find.

[serene spindle]

Yeah right last year citcon video are sooo hard to find...

[lost veldt]

i believe they said Polaris > Galaxy > Perseus

but also :/ (coming so soon , it , the galaxy)

[stoic inlet]

Timestamp…

[serene spindle]

https://youtu.be/2otksAGrCOc?si=UYpoemCCOMS3Egdw

Took me exactly 15 sec

[stoic inlet]

And the Timestamp to where they said things?

[serene spindle]

Dude dont push. youre being annoying. Its a 40 min video and its easy to fast forward to a specific moment.
Youre wrong period.
Throwing unverified false informations on me without even verifying yourself.
Check your source next time

[stoic inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-elmo-elmo-rise-fire-flames-gif-19598540

But I’m right!

[serene spindle]

Prove it

[wraith sapphire]

This isn't hard, yo

They've already deviated from this by doing the MISC ships, so sort of hard to take them at their word, given that they ignored the Galaxy this entire Citcon

[serene spindle]

Yeah but nowhere they said Polaris galaxy and perseus were planned to release in 2024 like previously said.
Peoples take their fantasies for reality sometimes

[stoic inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-elmo-elmo-rise-fire-flames-gif-19598540

[wraith sapphire]

Meh I was just commenting on the build order. I never believe CIG time estimates anyway

[rain trail]

you pulled that straight outta your behind my friend

they literally never gave dates

[safe cape]

Nice to see Brist is still consistently wrong about everything after half a year.

[stoic inlet]

Fake News!

[stoic inlet]

Believe it or not, also Fake News!

[coral lotus]

@stoic inlet quit trolling, or if you do, do it somewhere else and not in this thread

[stoic inlet]

Just because I can't find proof doesn't mean it didn't happen. I don't intend to go back through a 6 hour video or whatever but I am quite sure that it did infact happen.

Regardless, I shall depart as requested.

[rain trail]

it did not man

i can't be bothered to find evidence therefore it might exist is not an argument, when it's proven otherwise that they did not give dates

part where they talk about the rsi ships in that video is 37:40 to 39:44, go ahead find where they give dates

[lavish crystal]

Your in a group of people who want the galaxy saying you know the release window of the galaxy while the rest say they never said that,

Out of all the places to say your thought is fact about something is not the collective around that thing, who grab what strings we can,

The galaxy had no mention at citcon, they also said their big ship focus was rsi but now the kraken and pioneer are both being worked on.

And a misc ship family just a bit smaller than it has one that comes out at IAE.

To me it seems the "focus" is gone and the galaxy is not a poster job like the Perseus was for the 12 month video.

Now we sit like mostly everyone else, no idea if our jpeg is next.

[fickle dagger]

nah if they said Perseus release date last year I would've known/remembered and been waiting for it

all they said was Polaris being made first, should only take about a year and then galaxy and then Perseus so by that logic it would be polaris late 2024 galaxy mid-late 2025 if they re use lots of made assets and it's a smaller ship so it may take less time (although it's modular so could take longer) and then Percy would be sometime 2026 if they had done it this way

but I guess they've skipped the galaxy here

[rain trail]

@worthy yacht you probably will want medical if you're going to use it like a mobile base like i am

[worthy yacht]

ah, I plan to get it, but I'm holding off until they showcase more base building

I was gonna originally get the cargo mod, but figured there's no reason to when there are already so many cargo ships

especially for the price

[rain trail]

because with doasm and when injury tiers matter on respawn you won't be able to just get respawned fully healed character say if your injuries were t1 and your bed is t2

you will need the t1 bed, and i think there was something saying lower tier beds (t3 is lowest iirc, as number goes down tier goes higher) do more dna damage or something like that to your character so that ties into doasm

don't quote me on that, i dont remember

[worthy yacht]

it's up to a lot of interpretation because CIG has been so vague with it

[rain trail]

buy in game tbh

[worthy yacht]

it seems to change evry year

[rain trail]

don't buy modules ever on pledge store imo

[worthy yacht]

true, it'll probably be pretty fairly priced

[rain trail]

might be nice to hold onto one with store creds but for 1.0 release they're useless

so when you get wiped you have it, but for release get rid of that shit

[worthy yacht]

yeah

[rain trail]

except maybe warranties will play a role on it so, idk. have to consider that actually

would be frustrating to lose a module every time

[worthy yacht]

with warranty I assume you'll get the value back

still would need to purchase it again though

[rain trail]

having warranty on the modules could be worth ngl

[lost veldt]

tbh, they did said that all things from cit con (beside Sq and basebuilding since it was just starting work) where gonna be released in the next 12 months

[serene spindle]

People tend to hear what they want to hear (and what fit their fantasies).

They repeatedly said "THIS will be released in the next 12 months" on different panels and sometimes multiple times in each panels. Imo it means what they just said was to be released in the next 12 months.
Those who understood that EVERYTHING said at citcon was to be released in the next 12 months might have misunderstood or made an hopium OD idk. But it doesn't need much braincells to understand it was impossible to get all three RSI ships in 12 months. Just as it was impossible to get star engine and pyro (it was said to be available January 2024 iirc lmao) in less than 12 months.

But anyway idc if people want to believe in unicorns. Galaxy is probably shelved having a drink with Merchantman right now. I got rid of mine actually so it no longer concern me

[lost veldt]

CR during his closing speach said that everything showed at citcon would come in the next 12 months. I wasnt talking abt what the devs said in their panels

but don't get me wronng, I am not saying it should have happened because CR said something. this is CIG afterall

[pulsar cairn]

Is there a chance it will be announced at IAE

[stoic inlet]

Unlikely. I hope so but it won’t…

[pulsar cairn]

If so I'll trade my 600i for it

[stoic inlet]

https://x.com/anthropicdualit/status/1849432457185038565

Citizen_of_the_Verse (@AnthropicDualiT) on X

Shoutout to @HaruTheNinja78 for passing a clip from @TheInforunners livestream about the RSI Galaxy.. It is looking like how I thought, Galaxy Owners MIGHT want to start thinking about a Ccu up to the Starlancer BLD when it launches.

#StarCitizen #CitizenCon2954

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 12:47 PM

Frick…

[light kraken]

???hmm.

[wraith sapphire]

It gets worse
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/galaxy-clarification/7328459

TL;DR - Galaxy confirmed after Purseus, and they're doing a "flashy thing" (acting like it never happened) on base building.

[indigo scroll]

wow no base building for galaxy...

so is the idris going to lose the railgun when the anvil capital is revealed at IAE

[safe cape]

I'm pretty chill, we still have Refinery and Crafting though they did announce the Galaxy for Base Building and should stick to that.
But I do find it hilarious that the whole "treat it as speculative unless it's on the pledge store or in game" statement also applies to the BLD Lancer because it's not in store either.

Despite showing it off last year at CitCon there are no plans to make a construction focussed variant of the Starlancer.
~ CIG 2025

[wraith sapphire]

Heh now he's trying to soften things a bit

I agree that the design for drones doesn't work well with the underbelly module, however if you look at the BLD, the drones are coming in/out of the lower level on the side. This could have been handled via the Galaxy module too, simply by a droppable platform that the drones could come in/out of, or heck even just let them land/take off from the rear hangar.

At any rate the point is moot. I find the whole thing a little bizarre, because base building is still a ways off. He could have approached it completely differently to begin with, by saying something like "we're still trying to figure out how to best handle a base building module, so for that reason it won't be available when base building comes out".

[light kraken]

Time to burn my galaxy. 🍻

[rain trail]

this is just shit

cig 2023: you get galaxy 2025 and you have base building!

cig 2024: you get galaxy 2026, no base building.

[worthy yacht]

What is the point of the galaxy without base building lol

[rain trail]

I'm not even pissed it doesn't have base building or is a year later, i'm pissed they gave us a timeline and an extra feature then took it away

[worthy yacht]

More expensive caterpillar? A refinery ship???

[rain trail]

large cargo and medical?!

medical galaxy fills a spot no other ship does

[worthy yacht]

There are already so many large cargo options, it would be the only in game medical ship for a while, but that’s one expensive medical ship

[rain trail]

apollo has t1 but no snubs and very little space for supplies or a rover, and the endeavor is way huger

[wraith sapphire]

My copium huffing involves the fact that the Galaxy had other neat modules to begin with and uh... who needs base building... er I mean.. there are other ways to base build... yeah...

[worthy yacht]

Totally not needed, now take your $400 cargo/medical ship

Hell

If basebuilding isn’t coming with it

Why is it even delayed

[wraith sapphire]

Because they decided the Perseus would be easier because it shares more art assets with the Polaris than the Galaxy

[worthy yacht]

No one has the refinery mod, or cares about it, cargo and medical shouldn’t be an issue

They’ll probably wait until the arrastra in 2026+ to even give it refinery

If they don’t back out of that as well

[remote herald]

Mobile crafting and refining capability is a bigger deal than people realize....

[worthy yacht]

The issue is that it’s nothing to ride home about, we already have dedicated refinery ships that can do the same thing but at an industrial level

Galaxy with refinery module is a waste of money

[remote herald]

Parallel processing to reduce bottlenecks will be a wonderful option

[dusty relic]

I thought people invested in the core Galaxy hull bc it will have the potential for future modules beyond the current three. That was the initial presentation for the strengths of a modular ship compared to a specialist. Not as good at any one task, but you can swap out and retain potential for additional tasks in the future

[dusty relic]

Or haul supplies to an org outpost with the cargo module. Then fly back to Stanton to refit to refinery mod, and come back and support on site refinement. It's not going to be faster to do so than two specialized ships - but it will only take ONE ship, for those for whom that matters.

[remote herald]

Exactly, i am not sure why this a difficult subject to grasp.

SC has time sink traps EVERYWHERE, the Galaxy will be a cheat code to speed up objectives and offer flexibility to support services while being unmanned.

[fickle dagger]

#sc-news message

I finna crash out over this

I wanted base building module so bad

[pulsar cairn]

I just want the ship itself..

[lost veldt]

I wonder if CIG wold close my acc if I make a complain to the the Consumer Protection Office

[lost veldt]

After they get every cent from the BLD, then maybe we will get some news on a building module 😇

[fickle dagger]

YESSSSSSS

they heard my rage

I started making Manchester quake

[lost veldt]

Who knows how much we will be waiting for it tho

[fickle dagger]

idc how long

until the end of my days as long as it's coming

[stoic inlet]

Probably.

[stoic inlet]

Apollo does it better at 1/3rd the price.

[stoic inlet]

@reef fable…

[indigo scroll]

Clown show, “no plans for base building module”, to “fully committed” in one day

[lost veldt]

An it was at this moment, they knew they fcked up

[analog cedar]

so tue galaxy is next after perseus? maybe thats why it wasnt in citcon, they are not sure if they can squeeze both into the next 12 months

[stoic inlet]

When did it go to fully commited??

[reef fable]

Hahaha so I went to bed maybe being wrong but turns out I was right. Go figure.

[stoic inlet]

Huh??

[reef fable]

Sounds to me like they don't actually know how it is going to work because the modular section likely only opens from the bottom and while landed large drones might not be able to get out easily.

[stoic inlet]

And the BLD is different?

[reef fable]

So it is pretty likely an issue of them not knowing how to actually do it.

[reef fable]

The starlancer drones looked like they are attached to the sides

I get it though. Building a ship from scratch to make it work is likely easier than making a modular ship that is poorly designed for it work.

[stoic inlet]

...

No. Making the modular ship work would be better.

[reef fable]

Uh... I don't think you understand how the Galaxy module section works if you think that's true lol.

[reef fable]

Also, I went to bed reading John's statements and thought I might end up being wrong and have to admit that I was wrong about it losing the basebuilding module. I woke up and read the latest comments and nope they committed to it.

But yeah the Galaxy's middle module section doesn't appear capable of "opening" from the top. So if the ship is landed and the drones have to come out the bottom... and they're large drones that gives very little clearance to get out.

[indigo scroll]

The new message

[stoic inlet]

So now it is fully commited to being in or out?

[stoic inlet]

Why not use something other than drones?

[reef fable]

So completely upend their design for the system just to support a single ship? lol

Drones make sense for basebuilding. I'm not sure of what else would make sense that isn't in essence just a different kind of drone. And using a standard is pretty important for consistency in functionality. I own a Galaxy (Complete pack) and I was very much looking forward to buying the basebuilding module. BUT I do understand why it would be shelved given that it presents some challenges that they might not have considered when they revealed it.

[stoic inlet]

Mech drones, yes.

[reef fable]

And how would mech drones not have the same issue?

And yeah I'm just looking at the Starlancer BLD presentation and it looks like its drones come out the side.

Anyway, I do think they will figure it out... I just think they probably realized that it would be harder to implement than they had anticipated when they showed it initially.

[stoic inlet]

well they walk around as opposed to flying.

[reef fable]

Okay I don't think you are actually understanding the nature of the problem lol. It's the issue of space. There isn't much of it underneath the ship on level ground and a lot of land isn't going to be level. Unless that mech can compress itself to an extremely low size and still maintain mobility that wouldn't solve the problem and would actually create a few new ones.

[stoic inlet]

Well can a person walk around down there? They said there were cargo lifts right?

[reef fable]

Again this isn't an unsolvable problem. They could open up the back so that the drones can leave via the rear. They can simply have the drones leave before it lands. There are plenty of options.

[reef fable]

Have you ever landed a large ship with a cargo bay on uneven terrain? It can be very problematic lol.

And the Galaxy doesn't look like it has a great deal of clearance landed. On flat ground it has enough to do what it needs to do but if the ground wasn't flat (as it wouldn't be if you're building a base) you might run into issues.

[stoic inlet]

Yes, many times. Why?

[stoic inlet]

Why would you not build on flat ground?

[reef fable]

Uh what? You would, but that doesn't help the ship before the base has been built or any foundations laid.

[stoic inlet]

But the foundations don’t flatten the ground. The foundations are built on already flat ground.

[reef fable]

No, foundations literally deform terrain. That's one of their main purposes. But this isn't relevant to that as the ship wouldn't be landing on foundation before it builds lol.

[stoic inlet]

Since when?

It’s just an anchor to hold buildings in place.

[stoic inlet]

But I still assume it would be flat. Are the cargo elevators just not usable on unpathed terrain? Because theres no reason a human sized drone can’t function if not.

[reef fable]

It's very rare to encounter properly flat unobstructed natural terrain in SC. But anyway as pointed out in the main channel John pretty much confirmed what I have been saying that the issue is likely due to the drones navigation and how the Galaxy modules are designed. So I'm not entirely sure what more there would be to discuss.

[stoic inlet]

How to either:

1. Redesign it to be fine. Why can’t they exit out the top or sides.
2. Make the drones able to navigate in that space. How much space is there anyways?

[lost veldt]

not even sure what's the connection with the galaxy and foundations... they are not printing the buildings with the ships itself anymore

[lost veldt]

1 - they would need to redesign the hull of the ship to allow drones to exit. they could redesign the interior wall and let them exit through the hangar

[reef fable]

They could. Again no one is saying it isn't possible or there isn't a solution. Just that as the Galaxy is currently designed... it isn't really ideal for large drones to be going in and out of from the ground. That's it. That's all it is. Doesn't mean it can't be fixed... just that it requires more thinking.

[stoic inlet]

Doesn’t the module have roof access? The ship is basically a donut isn’t it?

[lost veldt]

i don't think it does. even tho it should.. so it can get changed for other modules

it should have top doors from where the modules to get out, and put back in, idk

[reef fable]

Basically the Galaxy modules ONLY have exits at the bottom as of right now. Making an exit at the sides or top would require some degree of redesign probably more significant than people think. So if they didn't do that, then the outcome remains the same that they have to leave through the bottom. That space... is very tight to be having large AI flying objects go out of without colliding with either the ship or the ground.

[reef fable]

No, the only exit for the module is underneath. That's that issue lol

[lost veldt]

redesign is kind of a big word for a ship that is still in early phases of concept, but i get what you saying

[lost veldt]

technically at the back too. there is a door between the module and the hangar

[reef fable]

Yeah but that's a standard sized door I believe. So drones probably aren't gonna fit through there unless they opened that whole section up which I suspect they don't wanna do because then it'd massively expand the "hangar" space.

[lost veldt]

imo, they could redesign the interior wall and allow the drones to exit through the hangar, with a drone door

[reef fable]

And ultimately it would turn the two rooms into one big room potentially.

[lost veldt]

drone doors

[reef fable]

Hmm, that's a thought. Doors specifically tailored to the drones that can't be used for anything else. Or even perhaps a launch system that hooks up to that wall so that there's the doorway and two launch tubes on either side of it. Basically you clear the hangar, open er up then shoot the drones out the back.

[dusty relic]

Did y'all read this update already? Idk how I missed it earlier

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/update-on-galaxy-s-base-building-capabilities/449789

[remote herald]

#1130578256526061568 message

[indigo scroll]

Current info

[stoic inlet]

Excellent?

[indigo scroll]

Not really

Shows they can change back to dropping the module at the drop of a hat

Can’t believe what they say

[safe cape]

Fun fact, ground based pathfinding around terrain and the weird ass mazes people will make out of their buildings is a lot trickier than flying small objects in open space

This whole incident reeks of poor internal and corporate communications to be fair.
That and high level staff not knowing how to PR speak but trying it anyway and ending up with something that sounds corporate/detached but in a way that pisses people off.

[coral lotus]

I don't even care about the basebuildung module. I just love the design of the galaxy and there are plenty of modules to choose from.

[reef fable]

Eh... that's not the takeaway I would have gotten from it. "Fully committed" is pretty much the exact opposite of "current plans". It doesn't really leave any room for dropping it. Not to say it can't happen but I would say it doesn't "show" that.

[stoic inlet]

Well many other people do. Myself included.

[stark ether]

chat
galaxy is the best ship ngl
anyone know when we can fly it
pledged it last year but i havent played in ages

[worthy yacht]

probably 2026

[stoic inlet]

4th best. Javelin, 400i, and 890J exist.

[stoic inlet]

Ok… now I wanna know why it can’t just have grabby arms!

[safe cape]

Because it doesn't exist beyond a concept sketch or basic white/greybox and they haven't thought about the actual implementation yet.

[lost veldt]

don't forget folks, if it's not in the store or in game, it doesn't exist yet

[wraith sapphire]

And never mind what we've said before. It's all speculative.

[worthy yacht]

Polaris is speculation

The memes about pyro never coming were true

[reef fable]

They probably can but it would be a lot more fiddly than with the Starlancer as the way the Galaxy is designed simply isn't suited to it as John said, and he isn't wrong. Having the only opening section be at the bottom does create that problem. Though of course there would be solutions. Having a mechanism that drops down and the arms pop out would likely work.

[stoic inlet]

So… do it! I want my Galaxy build module!

[rain trail]

ok bro

show me the snub bay, rover storage and 64 scu of cargo plus the space for all the crew that galaxy has on the apollo

and show me how it can have 1 more bed module so it can have the same amount of beds as the galaxy

[stoic inlet]

It does have the same amount of space. They both have 2 modules. But the Apollo has drones which are better than rovers. No cargo is need. Drones also act similarly to a snub except it gets 6 of them.

[rain trail]

galaxy has 1x t1, 2x t2, and 3x t3

[stoic inlet]

And so does Apollo.

And they both have 2 medical modules.

[rain trail]

apollo can have any of those in 2 combinations, it would need 3 modules to compete

you literally have no clue what you're talking about

[stoic inlet]

They both have the same size modules.

[rain trail]

galaxy has those beds by default

[stoic inlet]

Grab the ships brochure.

[rain trail]

the apollo can choose two of either 3

[stoic inlet]

Galaxy needs to buy a module.

Its the Apollo that has them.

[rain trail]

you're literally wrong

[stoic inlet]

Nuh uh! Go look at the ship brochure.

[rain trail]

you're literally goddamn wrong my friend

galaxy has 1x t1, 2x t2, 3x t3 by default

apollo has 2 of 3

[stoic inlet]

It can choose from those.

Now look at Galaxy.

[rain trail]

^

so galaxy basically has each module that the apollo can have in its med module, that would leave apollo with less beds

[stoic inlet]

Check. The. Ship. Site.

[stoic inlet]

Apollo has 2 modules, Galaxy has 2 modules.

They both have the same options.

But Galaxy costs a lot more.

[rain trail]

you have less beds in an apollo

no snub bay and no space for a rover

[stoic inlet]

They have the same number of beds.

[rain trail]

and less space for cargo

no my guy no

they do not

[stoic inlet]

Drones replace both of those and better.

[stoic inlet]

Why do you need cargo on a hospital?

[rain trail]

you literally got no clue what you're talking about

[rain trail]

to carry your goddamn medical supplies?!

hello??

[rain trail]

ok put your healed patients onto a drone and ship them off that way

galaxy and apollo are not the same kind of ship, and comparing them is simply wrong

[stoic inlet]

Eh??

[rain trail]

apollo is a csar vehicle whereas a galaxy is a small hospital

[stoic inlet]

It is for collecting people from dangerous situations.

[rain trail]

bro are you not reading

[rain trail]

so a csar vehicle

[stoic inlet]

Count the beds.

[rain trail]

it's not a hospital it's a csar vehicle

[rain trail]

bro read the screenshots i sent at you

[stoic inlet]

It has the same medical capacity as Galaxy. What is CSAR.

[stoic inlet]

You misread them.

[rain trail]

apollo can have 6 TIER 3 beds

galaxy has 1 tier 1, 2 tier 2, 3 tier 3

apollo can have a selection of two of any of those three options

[rain trail]

read

[rain trail]

goddamn read

[rain trail]

combat search and rescue

apollo is the ship you will send into the battlefield, galaxy is the ship that will sit in orbit wherever you're fighting or land far away and do your actual healing or respawning jobs

they serve different roles

[stoic inlet]

Realization

[rain trail]

yeah

that's what i've been telling you

[stoic inlet]

[rain trail]

i'm not shitting on the apollo don't get me wrong, it's a great ship, but to say the galaxy is an overpriced apollo is simply wrong

they serve two different roles, just like how a prospector and orion serve different roles. or a cutty vs caterpillar

apollo goes into battle, galaxy stays just close enough to battle

so the galaxy is a small endeavor and the apollo is a big pisces

[wraith sapphire]

I feel like I should get some kinna prize or trophy for reading that whole exchange...

[rain trail]

fair

[safe cape]

Man, the reading comprehension on display here is nothing short of astounding

[rain trail]

i hope im not the one being memed on

[safe cape]

Depending on how stuff like Trauma Echoes gets implemented, the Galaxy might be able to support 3 beds worth of triage/regeneration at T3 and then moving those that need it to T2 and T1 beds to remove lingering regen debuffs like trauma echoes.
It definitely feels like more of a support hospital ship.

[rain trail]

^

apollo is csar, galaxy is small hospital, endeavor is big hospital

anything smaller or in between is csar or triage or emergency work

[safe cape]

Apollo can probably as a hospital as well for smallee scale org gameplay, given you can do a 1 T1, 3 T3 setup. But it's definitely better suited for and designed for CSAR.

My general read on the speculative Galaxy is that it is generally a backline support craft that anchors operations but doesn't quite work in a vacuum.
Refinery needs others running mining ops in smaller ships to work as it doesn't exactly have mining capabilities of its own.
Medical has the Galaxy in more of a static backline than an active medivac role.
Cargo seems like it lacks convenient loading tools like tractor beams or the like and you have to load from the belly and rear. So it's probably better suited for moving large amount of stuff and regular trading rather than the time limited hauling contacts. There seems to be ceiling mounted tractors as part of the module for filling the bay though, so it's easy to sort inside with a bottleneck of loading the bay

[safe cape]

Nah, I was referring to Bristerian.

[deft grove]

The only way the Apollo gets more beds is if it gets 2x T3 modules

Then it shares the same bed amount as the galaxy, however it then doesn't have ANY T2 or T1 bed

If Apollo wants a T1 or T2 bed it gets less total beds

Meanwhile the galaxy will always have 6

Plus the T3 bed in the Nursa it carries and another T3 bed in a medical pisces giving the galaxy nearly more beds than 2 Apollo's

[rain trail]

tbh in the back im probably gonna have argo personnel maybe

if it has space for a c8r ill have that too

if they make an argo medivac type thing i'll go nuts

[wraith sapphire]

I can't wait to see what we can cram in there. Seems like an Argo personnel carrier and a C8R could fit with some creative parking

[deft grove]

Why the personnel?

I mean, I love the mpuv, but it's lack of quantum drive really hampers it

[fickle dagger]

so you can send the crew down and stay in orbit

[deft grove]

just use the pisces for that^^

now that you can snap chairs to cargo grids that should be doable quite easily

[fickle dagger]

yea id use a c8r ngl

or c8x

[rain trail]

because if i ever use the galaxy in say org battles or JT, it will be to ship people on and off the ship

therefore more space for more people means more better

park it 30-40km away or whatever the safe distance is from AO and have 2 mpuv personnel rotating in and ouf

[fickle dagger]

genius

[wraith sapphire]

This is especially useful in ground operations where you want your respawn further away from the action (though I THINK the T3 beds would still have that 20km distance like the Nursa does?), so your troops would spawn back up in the Galaxy, re-equip, then get ferried back.

[deft grove]

galaxy is definetely gonna get spottet at over 20km range though

[fickle dagger]

galaxy would have longer range for T1 and T2

[fickle dagger]

do MPUV p have enough fuel for multiple 40km trips?

[rain trail]

probably

if not I'll carry fuel

[fickle dagger]

alright cool

[rain trail]

if not, c8x or something

they better not fall

or honestly you could have a dropship, have people take an elevator down to it

or have the dropship open the ramp and back up to the galaxy lol

[lavish crystal]

the concept art has the galaxy with a large dock door with a medium door inside of the same frame. so dropship wise a legionaire could dock with it

[lost veldt]

where did you seen that? i am trying to look for the pic

oh the interior pics

[rain trail]

yeah but ramp backing into it is cooler

[fickle dagger]

yea I would just do that and stick aload of chairs in there but idk if C8X life support is built for that many people, personnel probably is because it's literally a person carrier so it has to

[rain trail]

i mean they can breathe in their helmets perfectly fine

[fickle dagger]

when desync is fixed™️

else we all dyin

[fickle dagger]

yeah but not for long right?

[rain trail]

i mean that'd be cancerous for planet surface gameplay

[fickle dagger]

oh wait nah its infinite oxygen is it

yeah

must recycle o2

just SQ42 mechanic

[fickle dagger]

yeah literally impossible

they'd be silly to add that

should be fine then, as long as you don't need to eat

[wraith sapphire]

GalaxyBros: Do we think we'll be able to fit a Terrapin Medi in the ship hangar? The C8R fits perfectly, but it might be nice to have the added armor and better bed of the Medi for field ops.

[fickle dagger]

not a chance

[wraith sapphire]

And here I was hoping I'd find something I wanted to buy this IAE...

[fickle dagger]

yeah it’s way to big sadly

especially its ramp

[wraith sapphire]

Walk off the ramp and fall out the hangar door...

[rain trail]

no

[safe cape]

Thinking of grabbing some of the modules while they're available... But which ones?

Or I could just knock them both into buyback over the course of a couple of days.

[clear vault]

im on the 'aUEC buy modules' train. i aint spending the price of a AAA game on one room ofa ship 😄

[safe cape]

True, I think I'd like one to start with though. The Tali modules are like 8mil aUEC each, so Galaxy modules are probably going to be pricey aUEC wise as well, and having a ship with an empty room when you start out isn't great.

(plus there will probably be that point where they release the Galaxy but modules aren't purchasable in game for a few months)

[rain trail]

i'm like almost sure the modules will be buyable right off the bat

[fickle dagger]

yeah not everyone owns a module with real money

they could just have the base

and people who get galaxy as a loaner for something will need to get modules unless they just default to “galaxy hope” for endeavour or whatever depending on what sets/packs you own

it’s like releasing the polaris without access to the torpedos or smth

releasing the hull b without cargo grids

it’ll just be the ship that’s exclusive for a bit

and me a galaxy owner that has medical and cargo modules may want to try refinery, so i’ll be able to buy and use it in game

otherwise it just hurts galaxy owners if they can’t use their ship, modules will be purchasable in game ship will not

like why did you spend 380 or 500 when it goes up in price to have a shell

with no cargo grid

[remote herald]

In the event that you are allowed to use a larger snub in that space

[fickle dagger]

you can’t lol

there’s doors between the hangar and module room on purpose

[remote herald]

Yes.

The clearance with the doors open would allow one to park the nose deeper into the "empty" room if this functionality becomes available.

[fickle dagger]

you could do that anyway?

all the modules are empty in the middle

[remote herald]

Based on personal assumptions or has the layout and door functionality been confirmed by CIG?

[fickle dagger]

have you never looked at the ships layout? 💀

[remote herald]

Perosnal assumptions and ship concepts are a deadly duo!

[fickle dagger]

huge assumption here there might be a door but idk!

[remote herald]

like why did you spend 380 or 500 when it goes up in price to have a shell

I was answering this question above with a possibly answer

[fickle dagger]

hmm there might be a door here

not 100% sure tho

we need a specialist to confirm

[remote herald]

No worries, this is the fun phase of a ship launch:

• Functionality speculation

[safe cape]

I'd hope so, but the Retaliator modules took a while and everyone who had one in game was left with an empty Tali with no bombs or cargo.

Hope for module availability in game, prep for them to be pledge store only for a patch cycle because CiG didn't think about the implications of having a modular ship without readily available modules.

[rustic zinc]

is it just me or does the back door look kinda ugly?

[fluid verge]

GALAXY!!!!!!!!!!!! '

I want it i want it now

[rustic zinc]

yes

[rain trail]

its just you

back doors are always beautiful

[rustic zinc]

😭

no but the way its just massive with the tiny engines too lol

i think if it went flat then outward a bit the flaat again it would look so much better, and the engines should be a biiiiiiit bigger cause no way those can push that massive thing lol

the door is the one thing i dont like abt the ship lol

otherwise its a beauty

what ship would you put in it?

[fickle dagger]

C8R

[safe cape]

I want to see if a 135c can fit

[fickle dagger]

it might

probably will

tuck the nose through the module room door frame

if the door can be held open

it probably cant to prevent larger ships going in

[safe cape]

From the dimensions it does look like I can fit one in and park it at an angle and forgo some cargo.

Which is good enough for me.

[rustic zinc]

i saw an aurora fit in there

on the guy that makes models and stuff

[rustic zinc]

Ya think it should have a brig module 👀

[fickle dagger]

that could be cool

[rustic zinc]

tbh i think policing gameplay should be like “bring-them-in-warm” contracts where you can go out and detain people and then out them in a brig while you drive to the mearest detention center

maybe like a “net gun” that can lock on to somebody

[clear vault]

handcuff beam

[stoic inlet]

Tesla Coil ray of death and incineration.

[light kraken]

Burnt my jpeg. Decided just to keep the Apollo. Slimming down to solo or two person ships.

[coral lotus]

yall

wake up

[tacit glade]

Grab a brush and put a little make-up?

[devout radish]

is anyone doin ccu to galaxy? i got pulse lti but im dumb to make my way to galaxy. some halp? ty

[remote herald]

I recommended stopping over here for CCU, very helpful with finding great deals:
https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/1079505748075221092

[rain trail]

im awake

[rustic zinc]

im asleep

[rustic zinc]

Wake up again!

[rain trail]

galaxy my beloved

[clear vault]

Absence makes the heart go fonder

[pulsar cairn]

Anyone got any new news about the galaxy?

[fickle dagger]

no

[fickle dagger]

no

they’ll just do a “hey you can upgrade to the new complete pack for 80 dollars”

[knotty rose]

it's supposed to come out after the Perseus, and the Perseus is 12 month or so

[rain trail]

no

they've said that im pretty sure in the qa for like all modular ships with packs

[lavish crystal]

The complete pack would have stated on its sale page if it updated over time or meant the collection at that point

[rain trail]

they mogged us

this should have been galaxy year

[remote herald]

I would prefer to avoid a Carrack type release.

[stoic inlet]

And Polaris...

[remote herald]

What features are still being developed for the Polaris?

[stoic inlet]

Captains quarters decor, Refueling, rearming of ships in the hangar.

Look at the Carracks Captains Quarters compared to the Polarises Captains Quarters and see how bad things are.

[remote herald]

Compared to the Galaxy's proposed features, these are/were insignificant.

[stoic inlet]

What are the proposed features? Base building module.

[remote herald]

The modules themselves are the features of the ship, like refining.

[stoic inlet]

Yes. But what about those is that much different?

[remote herald]

How the Galaxy functions???

[fickle dagger]

those are NEVER coming 😭🙏🏻

[stark ether]

do you guys think the galaxy will be good for high tier bunker running
mainly to collect armour and weapons
the bottom front turret seems great for taking out turrets

for the gun turrets
will it be 2 size 5s for each turret??

[safe cape]

They're not pilot controlled, it's shields are only S3, and while we don't know the gun sizes, the turrets are S5s which should mean 2 Size 4s. Unless we get some turrets slaved by default I wouldn't use it as a hostile bunker craft without friends along for the ride.

With allies, yeah you can set it up with good medical facilities. Still not too tough and the large footprint is a problem but medical ships are always nice to have when doing bunker runs.

[lavish crystal]

The galaxy turrets are dual size 5

[rain trail]

BRO WHERE MY SHIP AT

[worthy yacht]

Give or take a couple months 1-1.5 years

[bold jay]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-one-eternity-later-gif-7900643

[wraith sapphire]

To go from "yeah we're gonna do the RSI big ships together because they all share design stuff!" to "Yeah nm on the Galaxy..." is a bit of a gut punch.

[rain trail]

really do b like that

[lavish crystal]

i was ok with the swap of perseus after pol instead of galaxy but when john crewe forgot it had been concepted yet alone us told and shown (kind of) a construction module coming it hit hard. nearly got rid of mine but i just love the look too much

[junior crater]

i think basebuilding module gonna be a disapointment and CIG figured it out thus tried removing it

think about it: all basebuilding ships land then deploy drones meaning Galaxy will be deploying drones downwards thus this might limit drone size

[rain trail]

you do not have to deploy them landed, silly argument imo

even if it does have to deploy landed unless your drone is literally bigger than a c8r it will still be able to go downward and leave

[wraith sapphire]

If you look at the TACBLD, that drone arm is pretty dang low to the ground when landed. I think they could easily come up with one or more solutions to the problem for the Galaxy, even if it was just a middle section that dropped down from the module, then had a swing arm that extended the drone, similar to the TACBLD's arm. Edit: Why am I saying TAC?

[junior crater]

Well we dont know if ship drones require that materials are inside the ship so this could mean that Galaxy will need to hover whole building process

[rain trail]

no not at all

a: access through the rear door
b: a seperate elevator with an automatic conveyor system going on it so the drones can request items from the ship

[rain trail]

<3

[pulsar cairn]

Anyone know when I can next buy it?

[ancient ruin]

IAE

[safe cape]

Unless it comes out before IAE (it won't)

[rain trail]

you never know

[wraith sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/patiently-waiting-waiting-waiting-patiently-still-waiting-gif-3590841176648399679

[rain trail]

guys galaxy next year!!!!!

[lost veldt]

apparently after Perseus yeah, from what was said at that citizen bar

[reef hamlet]

Good that I plan to get a galaxy ccu

Probably 3 of em

[wraith sapphire]

I will fill my balloon with Hopium and dream of 2026's IAE with a Galaxy release.

[unreal mason]

Would be nice for people that pledge ships they get updates on their status

[worthy yacht]

You did though, they said after Perseus, that’s way more information than other JPG’s get

[unreal mason]

Wdym

[worthy yacht]

They have said for months that the galaxy comes after the Perseus

In Beijing they said the Perseus released IAE this year

That puts the galaxy in 2026

They also said in Beijing that it’ll use Zeus assets instead of Polaris assets (which the Perseus is using)

[unreal mason]

Ooooo

[worthy yacht]

Ye, the Beijing info was just last week

So very new

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy is 20% chance for ILW and 80% for IAE

[stoic inlet]

Of 2026...

[reef hamlet]

Yep.....

[wraith sapphire]

yeah my money is on Nov 2026

[reef hamlet]

probably ye

[unreal mason]

Do we think the galaxy will have a engine room or any other walk in component rooms?

[reef hamlet]

maybe the side rooms by the hangar?

the oranges thingies are lifts so ton of room for just lifts

[rain trail]

where my ship at

[reef hamlet]

Probably IAE 2956

[coral lotus]

nothing but a traitor with that name

[rain trail]

why

i love all the doritos

[unreal mason]

Imagine we had a torpedo module

[rain trail]

no

i want my industry ship to get more industry modules

[rain trail]

my sweetheart

[sacred locust]

Is this ship out yet ? it looks so sexy

[pulsar cairn]

Next year :(

[sacred locust]

Sad 🥲

[rain trail]

we need moar space dorito

[clever comet]

Soon

Perseus Pals will raid Galaxy Gang

[clever comet]

[reef hamlet]

I was like "normal galaxy pic" then i notice the gun barrel

Then the turret

[rain trail]

"how much visibility do you want from bridge?"

"none"

[reef hamlet]

Do you fly from the cockpit or the turret?

[rain trail]

both

[lavish crystal]

the galaxy bridge isnt that much diffrent from perseus in field of view maybe at bit less to the side

but full front but only from the top is same for both of them

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy's bridge is further in the front while the Perseus is more in the back and elevated

[lavish crystal]

the elevation isn't going to add much cos the bridge isn't positioned to the side like the Pegasus concept nor does the glass go past the 180 degree point

this is my interpretation

the galaxy has the red view from cockpit then 2 side turrets and a bottom turret which has full 360 view of their zone horizontal and probably a 70-80 degree incline away from vessel giving a manned galaxy full view of all but its close above aft

the perseus has a big front basically sharing the cockpit view a top plus back small turret viewing behind it and a bottom turret which may be the same area view as the galaxy bottom turret

the cockpits basically have the same view but the turrets make the perseus side its worse sight line and the galaxy's the top aft

[stark ether]

first time im getting back into this in months
will the galaxy get released before new year

[clever comet]

im going to say yes

just my opinion

IAE Galaxy

then start pumping on Arrastra

[stark ether]

i am really hoping it will
i doubt it but still
tbh i should save to get it out of buy backs

[clever comet]

should pick up the CCUs to lock in the price this IAE

and then start a warbond chain

[stark ether]

i havent ever done that before though
i will need help lmao
i want it LTI as well but i think thats too much to wish for lmao

[clever comet]

no you could get it LTI for sure

[stark ether]

oh nice

[clever comet]

its a bit confusing at first but much much better than buying it out right.. there are options out there like gray market but still having to pay atleast 60% of the melt value up front which can be pricey

vs buying a $5 - 10 ccu here and there

and saving through the entire year

[stark ether]

awesome
i have what 2 months until IAE right
i have 300 in store cred i can use
is there anyone who can help me get this going

[clever comet]

Right @sonic gorge

[stark ether]

i cashed the galaxy i had in for an F7A MKII when the event happened

awesome
tyty

[clever comet]

Iris the Empress of CCUs may be able to explain this much more efficiently and quickly than i

but i can try untill she gets heres

so

lets take a look at the current shop.

the M2 Hercules has a Standard Price of : $520
But with Warbond is $485 ... so theres, $35 of savings

and you basically want to chain the warbond offers together

the difference is warbond is new money... cant use store credit

[stark ether]

ahh ok
i am trying to not spend much money on this game
i want the galaxy but i do not want to spend £300 lmao
i think i might do store cred until i can pay like £50 real money

[clever comet]

so i would do this

Get the Galaxy CCU. Probably Valkyrie to Galaxy this IAE

Starlancer to Galaxy is also an option. its $5 just to secure the price

can use Store credit for that

if you want to get the Galaxy LTI, will need to pick up an LTI ship of some sort ... There's something called. "Grays Market Shiv" which will be a straight to flyable

anything new coming Citcon, IAE, and into next year thats cheap enough to get the LTI token, then CCU with store credit for the Tac to Galaxy

[stark ether]

awesome
that is a lot of help
i will probably keep this corsair pledged so i might do corsair to valk
then valk to galaxy

or
i cash in the Corsair
i buy an LTI ship
upgrade to the valk
then to the galaxy

well
upgrade to the corsair
then valk
then galaxy

and i have enough time to save up as well
thanks a lot

[clever comet]

keep an eye peeled. 😄 see how it goes

[dire dirge]

CCU game says this atm for LTI

[clever comet]

Bro has to poop out $90 for a lti token

hell nawww

[stark ether]

yeah not happening lmao
after the 19th
i gotta save like a grand
so 5 weeks of work
then i can save for the Galaxy
we got a date for IAE??

also can i not save up and use a buy back token to get it out of buy backs
or does ccu chains not work like that

[clever comet]

November 19th ish i think

[stark ether]

ahh damn
aight imma need to grind the shit out of work then

[rain trail]

you mean before 2025 ends? hell no

it'll be a 2026 release

[reef hamlet]

If we get a galaxy citcon teaser, galaxy will probably release later this year of early next year

And im hoping I can snack 1-2 valkyrie to galaxy ccus

[rain trail]

i doubt galaxy before iae 2026

[lavish crystal]

idk with how much asset the apollo used (im salty about where this ship sits other than the cockpit and exteriro which are great internals and compnents less so) the galaxy might be closer than we realise

[reef hamlet]

The galaxy and Perseus are pretty close from the kits and Design

Galaxy heavily relies on perseus and will be in (active) production after Perseus release

[clever comet]

Probably already getting touched by someone right now

[reef hamlet]

huh?!

[rain trail]

its not gonna be before iae 2026

just not gonna happen imo

[dire dirge]

[lavish crystal]

I agree but probably not before IAE doesnt stop us getting images earlier

[worthy yacht]

the issue with the galaxy is that two of the supposed modules are things that CIG hasn't even hinted at being close

I fear that it'll just be another slop release like the carrack where its supposed modularity gets thrown out the door in favor of being an overpriced cargo ship

[clever comet]

build a chain but keep options open for chain to become Arrastra in the event that the Galaxy is quite literally hot shit and a small construction ship can do what it can do but for a fraction of the cost (for building)

I want to see Galaxy succeed but seeing CIG track record in espsecially modularity... its just not happening anytime soon

[worthy yacht]

at least the galaxy is the cheapest way to get a carrack still lol

carrack needs fixing, but they've been doing imrpovements over time, so hopefully they'll fix the cargo hold

[reef hamlet]

Tbh
Look at the tally
We have cargo and torpedo

Only 1 is a real new module
That being the cargo modules

We are still supposed to get
Dropship module and habitstion module

Plus this

[clear vault]

Titan Armour dropper

Medical seems a bit redundant now that Apollo is huge

but i guess by that logic, hte cargo one is redundant because C2 /shrug

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy has 20 potential respawns

3 t3, 2 t2 and 1 t1

6 spawns on the t3
6 on the t2
8 on the t1

[clever comet]

We going back to station with this one

Olympian paint

Concierge

Blue and black

Hmm

Rough because Perseus looks good by itself

Wrong chat

Fkn hell

Sorry Galaxy Pals

[clear vault]

wow, way to rub in that we have an in-engine shot

[clever comet]

Galaxy soon tm

[fickle dagger]

where was that??

the behind the ships?

[rain trail]

nah

its dropship with medical wym

[lavish crystal]

a tali with med is much closer to medivac than the apollo sadly

6 s2 vs 4 s2 with more armour, loads of turrets loads of crew beds, so you can land and bottom turrets go extract while top defend.

with the growth but still medium components and lost drones in gameplay plan for now it sits weirdly.

galaxy med is a much better large hospital ship while tali could be a much better extractor large while medipin is a extractor medium.

the only way apollo beats galaxy med is how much will bigger ships cost to run and need engineering since apollo is a lot less mass, cheaper parts and a lower crew need

[clear vault]

Connie will probably grow in it's rework

[clever comet]

Connie casually becoming the size of a Perseus

[rain trail]

apollo needed to be way closer to concept metrics, had a wider ramp entry or an elevator in the triage area for fast extraction

the amount of wasted space on that ship is diabolical

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy would really be used as a mobile hospital if they dont change the medbeds

Since it would be come the only ship with a t1 bed

I would also like 2 paints for each module

3 Industriel paints and 1-2 medical paints

[rain trail]

what

no

idris and apollo already have t1

[reef hamlet]

idris got its t1 downgraded to t2

[rain trail]

sure apollo already have t1

[reef hamlet]

oh ye i forgot that

[rain trail]

also we'll def get a better medical ship that's got t1

and can carry vics and stuff

[lavish crystal]

c8r intro to medical,

then cutty vs medipin, choose more beds or better bed

then apollo, more beds and better beds options

then galaxy med, adds more beds, rover and pisces bay

then endeavour hope, they flying hospital station

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy will be the multi role goat

Also Whats this room?

[dire dirge]

mess?

or maybe mess+rec

[reef hamlet]

Thats on the 2nd floor

Pool table just screams rec room

I also like/ dislike the airlock placement

Being just a turn from the bridge

Okay
Just read the q&a

The room between the internal elevator and the component room is a locker room

[rain trail]

i wouldn't call it goat, it's a jack of all trades master of none

ok at everything you want to do but it's gonna be equievalent to ships smaller in size given the role

[reef hamlet]

Or that

I dont care about that tbh
Im just questioning if the galaxy could release before ironclad since she relies on the Perseus production

[clever comet]

I think the Galaxy could because it's using Zeus Kit / Apollo kit, and probably even Perseus kit... THE RSI KIT

I'm so dumb

They close though

Galaxy was in production for a little before they swapped to Perseus because it shared with Polaris

Now they got a Mantis interior rework, Meteor, Apollo... They can cook the Galaxy.

[reef hamlet]

Thats what im thinking
Galaxy gonna be on speed dial

But the modules are in need of proper functions

Unlike the tally needing to be claimed to be usable

[rain trail]

galaxy prob iae next year

IC might be ILW

[rain trail]

i mean yeah you may not care but being the goat of multi role and being able to do some roles ok is wildly different

it's basically apollo with hangar, better cargo grid caterpillar/worse c2, and the refinery we don't know much about yet

with the current state of game galaxy is just a c2 but grid is smaller because there's a hangar, there's no other reason to use it

since refinery is gonna be excluded from launch almost certainly

the only thing galaxy got going right now is looks, that's the only reason i'm gettin it too

[reef hamlet]

I think we'll get all 3 modules since it was designed that way from the start

Tally is an unfortunate excuse of a modular ship but it was never meant to be originally but here we are

Also ironclad will probably be my salvage Plattform with the salvage starter or just a golem mining Plattform for the aaron halo

Galaxy will be more friend activity since we still need confirmation on drake ore pod compatibility

[reef hamlet]

i also noticed that the galaxy is in talks on different discords

[dire dirge]

well it's carrack 2.0 so the fever pitch makes sense 🙂

[reef hamlet]

and its cheaper than the carrack too

i also hope the cargo modules elevator has a grid

also this airlock is a dangerous placement

[dire dirge]

not like RSI to make it so easy to get in and out of their ships

[reef hamlet]

i meant boarding

[dire dirge]

I know 😄

[reef hamlet]

a

[dire dirge]

also, found your reddit account? lol
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1nnhnyg/rsi_galaxy_what_is_this_room_does_it_belong_to/

[reef hamlet]

not me

i commented under it though

[rain trail]

there is nothing to indicate we'd get refinery module on launch too

it's not something that's already in the game so there's no reason why they wouldn't push it back

[reef hamlet]

bruh

looked up the size of xxs hangars

found the Galaxy is actually a MISC ship

[reef hamlet]

there are not alot of ships that fit the galaxy hangar

[nova wadi]

I can’t currently look it up but those dimensions mean the wolf would fit right?

[reef hamlet]

apparently not

galaxy hangar is 12m wide, 16 long and 6m high

wolf is 10.5m wide, 21.5m long and 4.2m high

wolf could fit diagonally

i think the diagonal is between 19 and 20 meters

[reef hamlet]

ye its 20m diagonally

[dire dirge]

WHAT! I thought it was RSI?

[rain trail]

.. it is

the ai is slop

[dire dirge]

smh

[lavish crystal]

remember though the pad in the back does not include the 2 areas if 32 scu to its sides so some larger things could fit with cargo loss

[rain trail]

with the way they're making ships nowadays don't you worry, they'll limit the hangar door to disallow ships bigger than xxs

[reef hamlet]

its just an invis wall for everything bigger than a pisces

but the scu place is like 2.5m

you could theoratically fit the wolf

but it will be a VERY uncomfortable fit

[reef hamlet]

i would rather recommend the ironclad for wolfs

it can carry like 5 relavtively comfortable

[reef hamlet]

The galaxy hangar is basically just a higher carrack hangar

With carrack having a 14m wide, 21m long and 5m high hangar

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy: 12m wide, 21m long, 6m high

Carrack: 14m wide, 21m long, 5m high

galaxy does have 2.5m on either side for a bit of wiggle room

[analog cedar]

where is this picture from

[clear vault]

Thats the Perseus from the July Monthly Report

[clever comet]

Yeah I fudged up and thought I was in Perseus Pals

[reef hamlet]

[analog cedar]

but where is it from?

[clever comet]

Monthly report

[clear vault]

July one, i believe

[reef hamlet]

Galaxy pls

[reef hamlet]

as soon as the galaxy is mentioned in a monthly imma start yapping even more

[rain trail]

i hope we get a better internal layout tbh

better use of space

[reef hamlet]

ye the front is a bit underused

but they mentioned that in the Q&A

[reef hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-star-citizen-fat-lou-fat-gif-27537606

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-jared-surprised-shocked-gif-13230429184869593955

[gloomy jungle]

galaxy 🤤

[unreal mason]

Since the Apollo series is out is the galaxy next?

[nova wadi]

Its after the perseus

[unreal mason]

So what’s after Apollo then?

[nova wadi]

The galaxy, because the perseus is coming at least at IAE maybe citcon

[unreal mason]

Ah ok

[rain trail]

the perseus then galaxy

[unreal mason]

Dang, I just want my galaxy

[reef hamlet]

apollo then perseus then galaxy

[last birch]

Apollo -> Perseus -> Ironclad -> Galaxy

Galaxy should be around end of next year

[nova wadi]

Ironclad needs new tech, they might drop in close proximity

[rain trail]

because cig never drops ships without their relevant tech

[clear vault]

Or just cuts tech that isn't ready XD rip drones

[final tapir]

Me want Galaxy

I have Perseus and Apollo already

[clever comet]

Galaxy some shiiiiit

[unreal mason]

I hope we get like a data running module. That would be cool kinda like the drake herald but for the galaxy

[final tapir]

I don't think that's likely, especially in the near future

[lavish crystal]

Bit large for data "runner"

If the galaxy gets anything data I expect more like the endeavour

[coral lotus]

i might be overdosing on copium but hear me out..

[clear vault]

doesnt match the schematics, and its too close to the Perseus release hyping. we have claimed it

[coral lotus]

Both don't match at all. Wrong Perseus seats, no tables, side windows are incorrect. I would even say that it matches the Galaxy more, but hyping the Perseus and releasing the Galaxy wouldn't make much sense.

(although, Idris release was weird too)

[final tapir]

It’s the Hermes (probably)

Bro is so drugged on copium he has no idea what the Galaxy looks like

[coral lotus]

I'm addicted to copium, but that's not the topic

[clear vault]

so Hermes would be an RSI fast heavy hauler?

[coral lotus]

Saying it's the hermes is even more ridiculous btw

[clear vault]

its just too close to Perseus' release with a 3 man cabin as a known fact

center seat probably slides forward, and the side desks were justgiven a holo projecting arm instead of desktop

[final tapir]

Hauling version of Apollo

[coral lotus]

Btw, the sneak peek is titled "The calm before command"

[final tapir]

It’s also the industrial design of the cockpit for rsi, not the military one

[clear vault]

which made a bunch of Perseus pals think they did a Captain chair in the middle, with twin pilot seats on the side

[coral lotus]

@clear vault Wait, your name even says perszeus. Wrong Gang buddy, get out of the galaxy turf

[spice sluice]

we are allowed here buddy

[clear vault]

Galaxy was going to be my alternate. but i think Arrastra converted me

[coral lotus]

Another one huh

[clear vault]

yea, i liked the portable refiner thing. but Galaxy has a bit too much Jack in its jack of all trades imo =/

[coral lotus]

Arrastra is such a beautiful ship.. can't wait

[clear vault]

yea i saw its announcement and it looked so compact, a Mole competitor. then i saw the dimensions XD

gonna continue perseus coping in perseus pals

[coral lotus]

The design is just too good. Having a crew is realistic (Idris is ridiculous) and yes it has everything. Having a ship be modular is so good because people tend to change their mind about ships every time a new gets released. So, why not have every ship option

New mining update? Sure, use refinery.
Org battle needs medical crew, sure here you go.
Large hauling? Sure go ahead

[clear vault]

512 cargo is unimpressive, refiner is smaller than arrastras, cant mine, base building delayed, Apollo scale up makes hospital less valuable

[coral lotus]

Jack of all trades doesnt mean master of all. Which is fine

[clear vault]

which is what my 'little too jack in its jack of all trades' had the issue with. its just not close enough to the real entries

[coral lotus]

Well, yes but jacks can turn into kings because it isnt even released. You know how they change everything once a ship gets released into the wild. peeps complain, and changes happen

Someday.. someday.

[clear vault]

Perseus got S8 cannons, maybe there is hope for galaxy

[rain trail]

it's got like the same cargo as caterpillar with a hangar, it's got more beds with a hangar and space for rover, the cargo is less than a dedicated ship of it's size but what did you expect. and medical only looks worse than apollo because of the current state of medical gameplay which is garbage

[clear vault]

refinery was one hte key uniquenesses i was interested in

and the large base build module for contract work

[lavish crystal]

the gal med is better than apollo in everyway after this not the concept release of it

apollo and gal both large
no rover vs rover and snub
32 vs 64 cargo
2 crew vs 6 crew
2 size 3 2 size 4 vs 6 size 5
2 s2 shields vs s3

and the gal med has 1 t1 2 t2 and 3t3 at the same time meaning it has the most beds joint with 2 t3 mods apollo but with more medgel in them

[rain trail]

that's pure cope

right now galaxy is just a fatter apollo that can carry slightly more cargo and has snub and rover

but is huge target

also saying they're both large is wild work

considering one is 73x54x14 released and the other one is 110x60x22 in concept

so will probably get fatter

[lavish crystal]

its not a cope its my opinion, i pledged an apollo concept of a medium evac vessel with drones and a moon pool for body retrieval, what i got was a large vessel with lackluster defences for its size, no moon pool and currently very unlikely to ever get drones that has no meant for space for any form of evac assistance.

i might as well take a taurus with a nursa, it would cost less to pledge both, be an extremely similar size, has better defences and offensive capabilities, a snub and rover bay and a tractor that could extract bodies from the ground with enough crew for a pilot gunner medic and engineer rather than 2 men running around a ship the same size.

and guess what the galaxy has those same capabilities over the apollo too.

[rain trail]

basing your opinions on the current state of an alpha that's in development and is changing is pure copium, if we get any proper balancing or refinement of medical gameplay the taurus with a nursa will be a joke compared to an apollo

and still most of your points are either irrelevant or outright wrong, like sure the rover and snub argument is cool but you classified both as large when the galaxy is way bigger than apollo and will almost certainly grow. the 32 scu extra aint gonna make it or break it, the crew size being 6 doesnt mean anything right now, all the argument of guns and shields are also irrelevant imo because in ships like these anything that can kill you is going to kill you and the size of your shields or guns won't be the defining factor

the fact is even though the apollo sucks as it stands the galaxy med is not simply better, even if things stay this way it still is a bigger target, and if things do stay this way then the rover and snub is irrelevant too

the moment cig gets their head out of their ass and actually differentiates the bed tiers in a meaningful way the apollo will be better

[coral lotus]

I don't get it. Every single Galaxy hater here are people who stick their glizzy inside the exhaust pipes of the RSI Perseus.

Like, wtf is this. If you just hate on it and nothing else. Go to your own channel/clubhouse, imo.

[restive kernel]

I've a Perseus and a Galaxy. I think they're both going to be really good🍻

[coral lotus]

I'm totally fine if people like the perseus, but they can spread their giga glazing in their own clubhouse

[remote herald]

What are your thoughts on this breakdown?

https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1odq888/soooooo_take_a_look_at_this/

[coral lotus]

My initial thoughts but it's most likely the perseus either way.

[rain trail]

i don't hate the galaxy, i own one and love the ship, doesn't mean i need to cope and say it's better than everything

[lavish crystal]

Basing my opinions on what I know, is how you have opinions.

Both are large by cigs classification on large vessels, they are both in the band for it. One is larger than the other but their ship class is large.

Double the cargo at least as well since the med modules has storage in it's concept just an unstated amount. Which allows for double the cargo or extra parts for vehicles and food and supplies for range.

Extra crew means it can man 3 turrets have a pilot and still have an engineer and medic, the Apollo has a pilot and 1 man running round like a headless chicken.

The difference between the Apollo and galaxy shields is 4x AVG depending on chosen shields, that 4x the time to avoid turrets and gunfire. Also means if what attacks your galaxy Is going to kill you the Apollo died ages ago, at least the galaxy gives more time for help since I'm not a solo player anytime for my friends to turn up is good for me.

The galaxy med at current is better because they is nothing it can't do better than the Apollo and that's not gonna change.

The snub isn't irrelevant if your target is in a cave that the snub can enter the Apollo can't, these exist on micro tech already.

The rover helps in bad terrain and weather environments. Try and land an Apollo on the rock formations of pyro 1 if your targets there the rover will struggle enough itself.

The Apollo is not bad, it does the job of medic, but the galaxy offers way more

If the Apollo is better tell me how, actively how

[rain trail]

can't really argue with things like

"cig says they're both large so they're both large"

"3 turrets that will never get an angle on anything somewhat maneuverable nor will they do anything to the combat ships that are slow enough to get hit by them"

"more shields because somehow running from things isn't an option and we're completely ignoring that the galaxy will fly worse than the apollo"

"the current state of a gameplay loop that just got a bandaid in an alpha that's changing month to month suits this ship better right now"

[lavish crystal]

None of these are the Apollo is better,

if your running so entering NAV size means nothing cos once you hit 600+ M/S nothing can keep up to shoot you

3 turrets with no angle? They are the same angles as the paladin has, also again if running doesn't matter your in nav, but say against bunker turrets if your target goes down to a criminal bunker 3 size 5 with a size 3 shield could take em out or use the rover, an Apollo ain't taking on bunker turrets.

The state of a gameplay loop that's bandaided is a very shit summary right now, the fact is CIG in the road to 1.0 had 2 boxes for medics, missions and beacons Vs all the other loops having 5 or so boxes.

Currently as far as we know medics have missions coming which will more than likely be NPC versions of beacons which are high likely to be combative locations, which a galaxy has better offensive and defensive ability.

Outside of that info all we have concepted are drones that are no longer planned, death of a spaceman which will just promote using medics over backspacing and old concept art of prosthesis which has never been mentioned since.

Tell me something the Apollo is better at, actually better

[rain trail]

i can't tell you anything if you're so deluded that you're not receptive to anything mate

[lavish crystal]

Literally tell me a stat or activity to do with rescue is better at, all you've done is try to put the galaxy down, how about you try to promote the Apollo, what does it do better.

I'll give you two, acceleration and quick access docking port to hospital Vs the gals docking port being the top floor opposite end of medical zone

I'm trying to discuss the genuine reason you think it's better all you have done is swing insults and go that doesn't matter like a crying child who wanted a strawberry ice cream while in a tool shed

[coral lotus]

I'm telling you man.. people with "perseus" in their name are just different. There is no point arguing

[clear vault]

We're in too deep, and too close to release

Literally just a gunship and we're in there like IT HAS TO BE 64 SCU BECASE DIVISBKE BY 8

I hope Galaxy has its potential rounded-up like Perseus's was to make it's flexibility stand out

Just go crazy in the module options

[lavish crystal]

my only ask for the gal is a top defence either another turret or a pdc since theres nothing up top currently

[clear vault]

Jail cell room for prisoner transfer, Pheonix room for luxury passenger

"If every career is a world of possibilities, a Galaxy offers every world"

[coral lotus]

I'm not joining any discussion other than that the galaxy has modules and you can pick a poisen. You need one singular ship that has it all.

Arguing about the details about a ship that is literally just a picture is pointless. In the release the cargo can be 5000 scu with 50 Tier 1/2/3 beds. We wont know, but we can appreciate the design of RSI ships and the unique aspect of being a modular ship.

[clear vault]

Stat balancing discussion go brrrrr

[coral lotus]

So dumb its unbelievable

Even released ships get demolished (redeemer )

[clear vault]

Redeemer had to die so Paladin could fly

Redeemer Looks like a Trex with those little S4s though

[coral lotus]

just whyyyyyy

redeemer with S5 and big shields was the most fun i had

[lavish crystal]

400i in the corner after being mugged for it components wallet

[clear vault]

S5 Redeemer was my gateway drug to loving being a a gunship pilot

Loved banking my positioning to give the boys firing arcs and watching the dakka

[coral lotus]

yessss, literally

[clear vault]

Cutlass was my first joint. Redeemer was my first prescription XD

But we're Perseus changing again. Back to Galaxy

It does need some top defense, hoping to see 3 or 4 PDCs on it

[coral lotus]

Saying "brb, taking a piss" while the party were sitting in the turrets in a mission against other npc ships was such aura from the redeemer

[clear vault]

Then you come back and its missing a tail fin

Damn thing would fall off to a sneeze

[coral lotus]

Classic

[lavish crystal]

my deemer experience was hearing a bottle or tin fall out the storage and exploding, think that was its release patch

[coral lotus]

Probably just 1 max 2 PDC, lets be honest..

[lavish crystal]

id take 1 or a weaker turret like 2s3

[coral lotus]

oh yeah.. i remember those times too well. "Guys, this is the redeemer, dont open the mini fridge at the bottom or we die"

[lavish crystal]

yep

death by swift delivery, the nuclear bean tin

[clear vault]

Should have shielded the mini fridge so a can of soup falling over wouldn't self destruct

Galaxy's top angle is the broadside of a barn. For sure

[coral lotus]

Its literally a mini star destroyer if you forget about the tower at the back

[lavish crystal]

i can understand not wanting it to have another 2 size 5 but giving it nothing up there is suprising but then again its RSI ship that isnt a combat vessel, they all have barnside blind spots, galaxy and zeus being the top apollo and connies except the androm being the bottom

[clever comet]

Galaxy aint getting PDC

unless CIG changes their stance

unless you talking about Perseus? then yeah, prob

[lavish crystal]

I think in a old concept talk the Perseus back remote turret the dual size 3 one was to act as a PDC if un operated but that was a old transcript statement if I remember correctly so who knows

[clever comet]

im hoping

that those 2 remote turrets act as PDC

PDC

not PDT

PDCs (Missles and light craft targetting)

but fk it i geuss if they do pdc and pdt remote turrets

[kindred dock]

Can't wait to use my Galaxy with the refinery module and a friend in a mining ship 🙂 Just mine everything cuz you don't have to be picky anymore. Maybe even use a third pilot with a freighter. Heck, why not a Hull C even 😄

[coral lotus]

I will take the refinery aswell

[spice sluice]

He's deluded?

[rain trail]

nah you're right i realise it's my own fault for not believing in the fact that "bigger ship > smaller ship in every way"

y'all are weird

[coral lotus]

any ship > perseus

[spice sluice]

You dont seem to have said anything to prove this mystical point that the apollo is somehow better so why dont you back it up?

No one here is saying that bigger ship = better

The galaxy is currently a better ship than the apollo for the purpose of a medical platform beacuse of the following:

• Increased amount of medical bays and beds to allow for better triage.
• An actual way to transport paitients in an out of the ship, such as with the snub hangar and rover hangar
• More armoured, and turrets wise a higher amount and larger gun capability
• Ability to carry smaller medical ships of its own in order to land or reach places the galaxy may not be able to reach

Until engineering is in place, which at that point any conversation we are having will likely be irrelevant due to huge changes we are not aware of.
The galaxy (at this current point of concept) is a far better ship than the apollo.

Dont get me wrong, the apollo will be a better budget ship, as it is 260usd compared to the galaxys 380+100 for the ship and module i belive. But in side to side comparison its not close

[coral lotus]

Spitting facts upon facts, amen

[spice sluice]

diffrences aside (perseus man to galaxy man) both are awesome :)

gunna pick up a galaxy at iae

if its on warbond or on sale

[rain trail]

where have i said this mystical point of apollo is better than galaxy

i haven't said that, i just said that as it stands galaxy is just a fatter apollo so it's slower and a bigger target for having a snub and rover

which is literally what it is until cig makes changes to medical gameplay

and all your points are irrelevant in the current state of the game unless you're gonna run you galaxy medical in vhrt's or something or want to roleplay

[spice sluice]

howcome

want to elaborate?

one of those is going to win a fight against a constellation, the other isnt

one of those is useful for org v org, the other is a sitting duck in combat

[rain trail]

increased amount of medical bays is literally irrelevant in the game right now, having an "actual way" to transport patients isn't really a thing as there's no downside to just tractoring them in, armour is irrelevant and "more guns" isn't really a major point on a ship like the galaxy (6 s5's that require literally 4 people to operate when you can have 4 corsairs or literally anything else?) ability to carry ships to reach places the galaxy can't sure is a point but if the ship isn't 110m in the first place maybe you could've just landed there?

[spice sluice]

Your now just moving away from your own argument because you know your incorrect?

armour is in no way ireleveant lmao, its what makes you survie or die. Guns are what win you fights.

Im not here to debate on the purpose of multicrew. We are talking about ship v ship.

if you had ever been in a large org op, you would understand the importance of recovery vessles and triage, especially with medgels implementation and the issues only 1 bed can bring with having multiple people die.

[rain trail]

also my opinion has been that apollo galaxy and endeavor all have their own roles, i was simply stating that the galaxy has downsides compared to the apollo after someone said galaxy is just better than the apollo in every way, which it really isn't and won't be ever, they're different ships

[rain trail]

ok that proves you haven't read half the things i wrote

emphasis on "current state of the game"

how is armor relevant in the current state of the game, tell me

[spice sluice]

one has more hull hp than the other

one can survive more shots therefore?

Im not here to say the apollo is bad

[rain trail]

yeah like in the apollo's case

where one has like 110k hp and the other is like 120k

[spice sluice]

you think the apollo has a higher hull hp than the galaxy

[rain trail]

ye that 10k will surely be the defining factor

[rain trail]

what?

[spice sluice]

your pulling numbers out your ass

[rain trail]

when the fuck did i say that

i have no clue about the hull hp of the galaxy, nobody does, it's not released, what?

triage is like 110k and medivac is like 120k at least last i checked

[spice sluice]

both you and i, wether you like or or not both know that the galaxy will have a higher hull hp

signifcantly so

so that is how armour matters?

[rain trail]

yeah and you know what? it compensates for that by being a way bigger and slower target

[clear vault]

lots of beds will only matter if there is 'evac me and my 10 friends who all got shot' or if the treating time ends up multiple minutes

[rain trail]

so in a fully realised game where medical is balancing, almost like that's been my stance this entire time

i don't get it, i love the galaxy and have one, how do so many people have a problem with me saying that the galaxy med isn't just simply better than the apollo

[spice sluice]

Im starting to get confused. mabye you think everyone you talk to is deulsional because you dont know how to phrase your point

if you compare ship v ship. the galaxy is better than the apollo medical. no external factors

[rain trail]

no

they are two ships of different roles and different strenghts and weaknesses

what you're saying is the hornet is better than the perseus

no it's not, and it's not the other way around either, sure in essence they both have guns that shoot things but the purposes of them and the use cases are so vastly different that they're not comparable

[spice sluice]

im not arguing what is better for daily driving or for multirole

i am saying

the galaxy

is better than the apollo

for medical gameplay

[rain trail]

yeah i get what you're saying and no you're still wrong

more capability is not simply better than less, since there's tradeoffs that come with the more capability

that's like saying the perseus is better than hornet period for combat gameplay

or saying the reclaimer is better than vulture for salvage

or prospector better than orion for mining

you see how that's silly?

[spice sluice]

but its not what im saying?

what i am saying doesnt magically apply

[rain trail]

yeah that's what you're saying just applied to literally any other two ships

[spice sluice]

to every other gameloop

[rain trail]

you're saying that one ship with more capability and tradeoffs is better than the other in the same gameplay loop, how does it not apply to any other loop

reclaimer is a simply more capable ship than the vulture, how is it simply not better than the vulture?

[spice sluice]

a crewed orion beats a prospector ect ect ect

[rain trail]

see now you're gettin it

there are tradeoffs

[spice sluice]

no shit?

but they apply to both

and the benefits of a galaxy outweigh the apollos, even with tradeoffs.

[rain trail]

unless you must somehow dumb everything down to x is better than y it's silly to say that one ship is simply better than the other because there's nuance

no

lmao

[spice sluice]

Take 3 people

[rain trail]

tell that to a player who doesn't make enough money to cover the running costs of the galaxy or doesn't have enough crew to operate it or just wants to do bunkers and doesn't want to deal with a huge ship

[spice sluice]

Put them in each ship

[rain trail]

if you want to compare x ship ran in ideal conditions and y ship ran in ideal conditions that's just terrible reasoning because obviously an entire org running an orion with supply lines so nobody can mess with a loot pinata that's the orion will outperform a dude in a prospector

like yeah no shit hiring an entire software company will outperform hiring a single freelance software dev

[rain trail]

ok why don't we take 1 person and put them in each ship

the fact is that the apollo is a ship that can be operated by very few crew, that can carry out the work of being a small-scale emergency hospital but is mainly a QRF hospital or very good ambulance/CSAR machine. galaxy is a hospital that needs more crew than an apollo and you're going to struggle running CSAR or QRF hospital in a hot zone, especially with small crews and no outside combat support

• running costs

it's like comparing hospitals to ambulances and saying hospitals are better than ambulances. that's simply not true, because while hospitals are way more capable than ambulances, the ambulance has the advantage of being a box of half-decent medical equipment on wheels. they're two different things

[kindred dock]

Looks like one of these vending machines where the chocolate bars always get stuck.

[coral lotus]

well there goes my galaxy... have fun perseus people...

[reef hamlet]

"error: missile jam"

"please carefully dislodge missile with a stick"

just noticed this wasnt leak discussion

im sorry galaxy people

[lavish crystal]

so then why take an apollo over a medipin or pisces, less crew needs, less costs to run.

you've moved your goal posts 3 times now

first it was you telling me im wrong and that the apollo is better than the galaxy cos the galaxy is "a fatter apollo" a "huge target".

then said that cargo capacity and rover and snub carry are irrelevant in medical which is bull crap through and through. when pledge gear v0 ends we wont spawn with shit so medics who regen for parties near new gear on board on top of medgel on top of everything else ships will need like repair materials, components and fuses. as well as weather and gravity and environments are meant to make bigger ships struggle so as i said try and land an apollo in pyro 1 jagged peaks or microtechs ship caves. to which yuo had no response and just call me deluded.

then changed it to when "medic gameplay is balanced" which doesn't change anything i said as medically the galaxy has the same if not better medical bed access.

then said they're not both large which by cigs classification they are, just cos one is larger than the other deosnt mean the other isnt, a freighter and a cruiseliner are large, odds are the cruiseliner is larger than the freighter though.

i asked you to tell me how the apollo was better and gave you 2, quick access port and acceleration. you then just stopped responding.

now your saying my argument was bigger ship > smaller ship which is how idiots try to belittle arguments that's a falsification of what i said.

is a perseus better than a hornet in fighting is a depends. is it big ship fight or fighter fight.

cos a hornet aint gonna hurt a polaris but can hit a swarm hard in the right hands and vice versa for the perseus.

i said the galaxy med is a better medical ship which thats my opinion.

now your moved the goal posts to say you never said the apollo was better which you did in your response about when "medic gameplay changes"

then said that the gal med is irrelevant right now when earlier you were arguing future changes make it irrelevant. both are wrong, right now if it dropped in game the apollo vs gal of getting a med beacon in a bunker the main event mission if the turrets are active the apollo medic has to run 2km to get in an res them the gal could take the turrets out or land 2km away and rover it.

as for the future neither of us can speak of it because neither of us knows whats coming.

then you change your point from costs to run a galaxy vs an apollo to if you have 6 srew run a bunch of corsairs with your apollo so i can no longer take you seesaw opinion seriously. you are changing the narrative of my points to bullshit someone else, constantly changing to the point you making, belittling your own argument

"also my opinion has been that apollo galaxy and endeavor all have their own roles, i was simply stating that the galaxy has downsides compared to the apollo after someone said galaxy is just better than the apollo in every way, which it really isn't "

tell me then how the apollo is better, based on what we know not what your guessing as a medical ship.

[reef hamlet]

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[rain trail]

when the fuck did i say that the apollo is better than the galaxy explicitly

cuz i haven't said that and that's never been my opinion

[spice sluice]

yall are still at this?

Galaxy aint explicitley better, galaxy will be better for some, apollo better for others

[rain trail]

exactly what i'm saying

he seems to think that i claim that the apollo is better and also he seems to think that the galaxy is just better in every way

both of those are not true so he's arguing with his own thoughts

[spice sluice]

for me, the galaxy will be better as i am a multi-crew player. For others the apollo may be the best option

[rain trail]

for your questions

you take an apollo when you need a quick field hospital or very capable ambulance. it's not sustainable but you can treat a few heavily injured people right over there whereas medipin and pisces isn't able to carry a bunch of medgel or a t1 bed. the benefit of the galaxy over the apollo is that it can sustain the hospital for a longer time but as i said multiple times, emphasis on the AS IT IS IN THE CURRENT STATE OF THE GAME that is an irrelevant fact, as the amount of medgel you can carry and the beds you can have on the apollo is sufficient for anyone and everyone but an org. unless you really want that snub and rover for some reason.

when medic gameplay is balanced changes a lot of things actually because more capability does not mean a better ship instantly. just like you said it depends if a perseus is better than a hornet depends on the situation, galaxy vs apollo depends on the goddamn situation. the galaxy is a more capable ship but if there's only a singular person who wants to deal with the medical ship in your group then the galaxy is going to be a wrong choice because that person is going to struggle to extract any use out of that ship other than flying it to places because of how huge it is and when things like engineering come online it'll be even worse, whereas the apollo is a much smaller ship so easier to handle by a single person.

i don't get how i'm "belittling my own argument" by saying that 4 people in dedicated combat ships is a better choice than 4 people in a galaxy doing combat? that's been my opinion this whole time that the galaxy will suck for combat.

i've told you many times how the apollo is better, i'll restate it once more. when you have a crew of 1-2 you're better off having the apollo because the galaxy will be handicapped by the amount of people it has to operate it. the galaxy is a way bigger target so detectable way easier, it will be slower so some ships that will be able to catch up to the galaxy and destroy it's comps before it can run away will not be able to do that to the apollo, and your running costs will be way cheaper. the tradeoff is that once medical gameplay is fleshed out you will need more beds, etc. and that's where the galaxy med will come in. larger player groups will run a galaxy but if you're just a few dudes running around the galaxy will handicap you and the apollo is just a better fit

[lavish crystal]

finally an actual response other than calling me deluded

[rain trail]

i want to emphasize that more capability does not instantly make a ship better than the ship that it's getting compared to. it's a different scale and even though they are both medical ships if you can even understand a slight bit of nuance you can clearly see that they are intended for different roles and group sizes

[rain trail]

i mean you just won't let it go and keep typing paragraphs to me mate

you are still deluded imo

also sure i will fix my "idiotic" statement that dumbs down your argument to "bigger ship > smaller ship"

"bigger and more capable ship > smaller and less capable ship in every situation because tradeoffs and nuances doesn't exist"

[coral lotus]

how do you guys find that much time to write all that

[fickle dagger]

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[rain trail]

i type fast

[unreal mason]

i had a dream last night that the galaxy turned into a capital ship and was coming out in a month

[final tapir]

Take a break from sc man

[coral lotus]

once in a dream i saw the creator of the rsi galaxy and i gave him a forehead kiss in appreciation because of how great those png's were, but even by doing that he didnt tell me the release date

[unreal mason]

[coral lotus]

[nova wadi]

Finally picking up my galaxy today :))

[coral lotus]

Welcome to the waiting room

perseus is done so get ur hopes up

[final tapir]

The instant it hits the pledge store I;m grabbing

[lavish crystal]

i hope we get a salvation cargo variant, under slung cargo like auroras so we can shove it in the back of the gal (all hopium)

[clever comet]

I can't

I can't persuade myself to spend $80 on a module

[final tapir]

Imagine how expensive they will be when the price goes up xD

[coral lotus]

But.. what if you need it someday?

[clear vault]

then you can aUEC buy them... probaly