#Perseus Pals
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Right or left Alt + K
If you don't do that you can't tractor beam anything on a ship away
And then once done just do alt + k again?
Yep
Only worth it for duping tho 
welp and reloading the torpedos in perseus and polaris ig
@lone bloom Still don't have any luck taking the pdc off of a polaris

I opened exterior then alt+k
As I said could also be left alt + K
Where abouts?
Middle
Sorry
😅
Pretty much in the middle where text usually stands
Its just a red text with "ship ports unlocked"
I'll try again
Not allowing me to do it
Nothing comes up 😅
Could be a server issue?
But why do you wanna to it on the polaris in the first place
but you can do that also with the vehicle manager
Wait what
And then people exist "yeah people would never go with large ships the first few months they play the game"
"like Connie package or sum"
Yeah, right, they go with Polaris instead 
YESS I did it!

got banned from reddit 
Doing a 1 scu mission was funny with it tbf
oh uhh my comment got deleted but I was telling the guy that was accusing me of using AI I didn't do it and showed him proof and called him a "terminal redditor" telling him he needed to touch grass
that guy had like 30k comments
yeah IDK what he was smoking but I was just telling him to take a chill pill as he sounded confused and easily triggered
clearly I hit a nerf because they banned my ass

mission accomplished
ah cool SC won't start anymore now for some reason lmao
Got the feeling since AI anything that is edited in some way people now gonna say "Yeah AI slop"
People get more and more stupid
and when you tell them to chill U get banned lol
Yeah because it hurts their feelings 🥀
Reddit moment ™
But if he as 30K comments on Reddit you cant help there i guess
Having almost 40K messages in Perseus Pals is anyways way superior


Btw shouldn't you get already a new color lol
Grand Admiral is 30K no? or 40?
aka purple
Yeah its 30K
(Me who already skipped 2 ranks)
whales
What has that to do with whales 
Shut up peasant


Shipposter - 100k messages (also gets to select role color)
Legatus - 80k messages
Praetorian - 60k messages
Imperator - 40k messages
Grand Admiral - 30k messages
Space Marshal - 20k messages
Freelancer - 10k messages
yeah but I like the piss color lol
U can pick any color at 100k messages like light blue
Who cares about discord ranks, when SC concierge rank matters more 😄
It isnt giving you a shiny color 
Well it currently gives me a real nice F8
And I’m $807.12 away from a nice looking 600i

Don’t know when we will get the cnou forge* and I am probably gonna buy 2 or 3 of them as long as they passively mine the planet

What rank are you now
Forgot it is $25k. Thought it was $20k for legatus
So $5807.12 away
just buy the new battlecruiser
I’m going to
I wish I could trade up the javelin to it. Javelin is 100% going to be a loaner for it and the battle cruiser would be a very nice solo ship 😄
heard you ride a tramway to get to cockpit
ME
Welp same as for Bengal and Kraken
Meanwhile us taking Perseus to VLRTS
after each patch - because we need to unlock the higher ones first

wonder what the current loaner gonna be until javelin
Prob Idris polaris and Perseus?
I could see it getting the idris m and p as a loaner on top of Perseus and Polaris
Its just funny to me, stuff like Bengal, the battlecruiser or javelin are ships I really wanna see myself ingame, maybe fly also here and there or crew
but never wanna own them myself

I never wanted the javelin but the $15k pack was too good to pass up
Which when we get close to ILW, I’m gonna contact support to see if I can get a trade up from javelin to the battle cruiser
Eh doesn't make a difference to me if its the javelin or the bengal
In both cases I would be like "welp and how do I crew that thing now? And also what do I even use it for"
Could always rent it out to orgs that need it
Smaller orgs
Yeah but never know if you need 2 😄
If I win $10k in the lottery, I’m buying an OC pioneer

Just need XL drones potentially for the drone tower that gives 2 or 4 L drones, XL Manufactur hangar, XL normal Hangar
Unless there is a tower that gives 1+ XL drones, then I would just need that one
Just want my base to be flexible for any kind of need
Well thats less than some people spent on SC
I didn’t know there are going to be drone towers. What’s the point of having the ship if you just need it for 2 seconds for the drone tower
Ship is flexible, the tower isn't
also they only showed the L tower yet, dunno if there will be a XL one
Don't forget that you may need to build refining/mining outposts at other areas, way out of range of that tower, thats where you need those build ships likely
The tower only makes sense on permanent areas as your main base
I won’t need to have mining outposts when I’ll have a pioneer and 3 forge* passively mining
😄
doubt they gonna mine passively if you're not there
Surely still needs player interaction
I assume it will passively mine but it’s extremely slow
or that
also ships are very surely more vulnerable than outposts
pretty sure there will be some kind of difference between taking the time to build a small mining outpost or just setting down a ship
also forge is very small
very limited in terms of cargo capacity and buffer
Yeah
Drake forge, so that ravit buys it 
XD
*not buys it
If I could, I would bribe cig to gift you the shittiest drake which you can't melt inside your account

Clipper is the worst?
Cutter
Herald 
Half wings for whatever reason
And did you saw the ramp???
how it opens???
The door opens assymetrical
One day those doors gonna malfunction and kill u
Herald looks too much "not drakeish"
While clipper looks like someone build it on a scrapyard of stuff he found randomly laying around
Railen elevator looks like a Mall escalator
Like - in star wars people joke about the millenium falcon being a flying dumbster
What in the fuck is a clipper then?
It's supposed to be a starter but it's not
The dirty corner with molt inside of a dumbster?

There are some ships worth it tho
Its a perfect starter ship but if they made it a starter pack, no one would buy the other starters
drake Perseus
Basically a Perseus rebought by drake full of holes and rust
I'm saying it ravit likes to pilot the genesys
genesys?
Yeah
herald is amazing
Be flying the genesis starliner to pay his fuel and ammo for the Perseus
that ship is so fucking fast
Ravit is racist against drake
Ravit is racist against drake
known drake racist
Main fleet never ends. My original main fleet was just gonna be the kraken privateer and base ironclad but here I am
@lone bloom did u know i have a drake interplanetary t-shirt
the only t-shirt from cig that i own
My main fleet didn't change yet at all
The only thing in my main fleet that did change in the past year is F7A turning into a L22 Alpha Wolf
They all ugly
Not just any F8, F8 executive edition
May get it some point after main fleet is done, afterall I got a Paint for it
The only value of them is scarcity
Wait till cig announces bmm in grey box and everyone gonna loose it,
I have 3 F8s that I can’t get rid of
"We decided to upgun the S8s on the Banu Merchantman to S9"
"Also, the Kraken gets the same kind of upgunn"
I wouldn't want them tbh cause I don't play them, they only good for collection
Your gonna get bmm , not because you like it but to prove it's better than drake kraken
I’ll be fine if it doesn’t get up gunned but gets S2 and S3 PDCs 😄
When they did the reconcept
But honestly if they release the kraken, bmm should follow soon cause it's same gameplay
You forget one major flaw in that logic
Unless it got PDCs in the original concept
It won't get pdcs

Why they did a reconcept
Bmm has pdc and kraken doesnt

To give it PDCs
That doesn't make sense
A reconcept doesn't break their rule of non combat ships getting no pdcs
(unless the original concept had it)
Yeah but didn't we say military ships above 1k dollars can have pdc?
But kraken isn't a military ship
Privateer

Base and privateer is considered civilian ships sadly 🙁
Industrial light carrier
BMM
Lucky
well yeah BMM got lucky because its old as fuck
Drake will get autonomous defense turrets/cannon or ADT / ADC for short
I need you in my friendlist so I can at least walk around it once it releases lol
I will always have it
(unless it releases at some kind of event and is standing in a hall either way lmao)
sauce
also why isn't it mentioned then on the kraken or ironclad that it has those
I usually play 2 or 3 days in patch and the rest I'm here to be racist against nerfs and drake ships
😂
I made it up 😄
I'll believe it
Had a friend who always made shit up but he always turn out right

so he diidn't made it up
when it turns out to be right


First thing I'm gonna do as a bmm player is
Killing a Kraken
My kraken and 300 fury will win against any ship
Imagine if its more agile and faster than the kraken, and you can just solo stick to its engines and shoot with dual S8 (or s9 if upgun) into its components bay

and its likely gonna be faster and agile considering its size
Gonna name the ship sashimi slayer and yeet it towards your octopus kraken
Could be
My kraken will be extremely fast in a straight line for all the engines and no armor
What I'm more interested is tbh the Hp, shields and last price jump
price jump will be drastically, for both of them
Since it's near identical as kraken wouldn't surprise me 950 dollars and above price
But it's fine, my melt price will stay 250 dollars
The only advantage the Kraken has over the BMM is that its a better mobile shop due to more ship parking space
Kinda yeah
but on the other hand who would ever use a mobile shop considering its the most risky way at that point to sell and or store items
while its 100% safe to just have a shop in your homebase

Then they said they gonna release more smol ships
which I hope they do but they need the gameplay too
They thinking like
Vulcane, legionnaire
You know
Legionnaire to me looks like a mosquito
even then its useless
Don't know, they can board kraken 
Why would I want or need a legionnaire - even if undetecteable - if i can do the same in FPS
by just jumping out of the ship
Meh who knows
I mean you need for the Idris
just one single SMG magazine
to get through the airlock



But my kraken can carry 100+ MDCs
I was once lost for 20 minutes inside starfarer

Have you tried it? And not in arena commander
Didn't know
I personally didn't but I watched videos about that
and they tested it in PU and it didn't work (4.5 patch)
You just made timesup want to melt his krakens now
they only worked assoon you just throw them of of the ship as space mines
Nautilus V0 be like
Its a drake ship
They crushed their own dreams by loving that manufacturer to beginn with

My kraken dream is still much alive. Be a small movable base that I can mine and salvage off of
join BMM side
also the MDcs arent protected by shield, so a single fighter just zooming over it (or even worse dropping a bomb on the pads) would just eliminate all of the mdcs
even if they would work
1 eclipse clears all mdc
and ngl you can tell the Kraken and BMM aren't made for combat, they have gigantic blind spots
like, significantly worse than Polaris or Idris
all their weaponry is on the top side
if I can't shoot I'll ram
I had BMM twice and got rid of them. First one I pledged and melted. Second one was from the $15k pack and I traded up
Doesn't matter the BMM absolves all sins, join our cult and worship the best manufacturer 
I don't have a "best manufacturer"
But I don't have like "the best manufacturere" i just have "the best ships"
but they can be from any manufacturer
(except drake)

He secretly loves the shiv
I didn't even liked the Cutlass while everyone said its the best starter or upgrade to ship
why the fuck would I like the SHiv
I don't like drake either but for a different reason
Because it takes parts from the best ships
But - to be fair - the shiv is better than the Cutlass, and it isn't technically from drake
Yeah but misc is cause
They robb you of 90 percent of screen
I can't see the fkn space
I don't fly it
it also has mailslot view
I fly weird ships like, syulen, nomad, 600 I, blade
NGL if syulen was T2 it would've been my daily
t2?
Medium ship with T2 components
I mean thats pretty much the Railen
Yeah but railen no gun
it has. as turrets
I prefer to shoot
but not pilot controled xD
If at least I had guns in Percy I would daily drive it
No?
Those things u call gun, I call it water splash
and ontop of that 6 PDCs

I mean its enough to solo VHRT's
won't get them on a medium ship tho
Get an idris m
Don't know maybe Andromeda and 600i made me too greedy
I mean Connie is likely gonna lose them at some point
For the past years it still hasnt

and besides the Vanguards and some niche ships like Stinger and 600I I don't think there is any other ship that has S5 pilot guns
Still hasn't its gold pass either
No one cares about the carrack
The reclaimer has what size
5
Ooof + pdc
its good if it has gunners and then can munch the pve ships ontop of that
but its just "eh"
Yep
Also a thing were the kraken might be good
I guess I'll stick with my defender for now till bmm comes, I'll try railen tho
one pilot, one gunner for main turret, and a medium salvager so you can salvage the PvE targets afterwards
and have a shit ton of cargo capacity
privateer +500 dollars from normal kraken and less cargo than bmm
but thats now also combined with more effort than it used to be since salvage has to get refined now too - so that either requires you to go back to station and do that there
and wait weeks
or requires you to have a base with refinieries
People are more concerned about pioneer and endeavour for now
They buying a lot on gray market
I counted 19 sold these past 4 days on Reddit
- some guy gathered 50k to prepare for battle cruiser
what has that to do with being concerned about it
battlecruiser no
only that it will be one of three manufactureres
RSI Anvil or Aegis
And Pioneer has no "new" news since last year citizenscon
Aooof never trusting an rsi ship again
except for that they paused it temporarily at ILW
Tbh deception and disappointment from 4 ships
Rsi meteor for beeping a glass ship
Rshi pizza for beeping useless
Pioneer the only unknown thing is how its area where all the build printing was supposed to go will get now instead
I think utility wise the Pioneer will get better than advertised ultimately because of its printing thing will be replaced with drones
since it has way more space for other stuff because of that - even if it will just get used as cargo space mayhaps
Drones gameplay supposedly comes after ai blade and crew right?
How was Perseus not how it was advertised? Got upgunned and has PDCs than concept. Better than concept
AI crew not gonna happen anytime soon
Armor
Most armor out of any large ship….
AI Blades before 1.0, so they may release 2026 or 27 since they officially work on it already, AI crew will be after 1.0 (according to CIG) so drones can come whenever pretty much
Just barely
Can't compare or battle against any heavy weights, pooplaris or Idris, in the case of Idris it one shots Perseus no questions asked, let's not talk about those 2, the multiple issues of having Perseus explode facing small ships who somehow 2 shot it is a joke for noe
Shields and armour are not enough either
Take it as comparison for Idris and Polaris, Polaris has light armor Idris has Medium why is the gap there so gigantic in terms of armor value? While the Gap between HH medium armor and Perseus heavy armor is almost non existent
and ontop of that, HH and Perseus having the same armor stats
Sub-cap killer. Not a cap killer 
Only 1 sub capital exist that is a fighter
Meaning
Perseus is anti hammerhead
Which already 99 percent of ships bully
Carrack is sub cap
Not a fighter
all ships between Connie and Carrack are sub caps
Also may mention the argument "yeah its not meant to fight against capitals" with S8 guns
and the ship with a single S7 gun is supposed to fight capitals
alright i guess.
Perseus should of stayed S7 guns
I thought also they gonna reverse that upgun ngl
but that doesnt change the "anti capital" topic
S7 is anti capital
So is S8
Price is not justified tbh
In terms of utility and price, people would rather pay for pooplaris than perseus
And Perseus is very clearly capeable to do anti capital combat-infact its the best ship against capitals that isn't a capital itsself
But that wasn't the topic, armor wise its still not as advertised
Every ship needs actual armor. Not just armor hp
There are armor stats ingame already
it has the same armor stats as HH
which has medium armor
While I do want it to be true, but for now, a fully crewed Perseus still gets one spotted by a random whale in his Idris, which is sad, cause I wanted Perseus to resist at least 2 or 3 shots
And I don't mean the armor values
Shotted
I mean the passive reduction of guns/damage
And in those stats its literally identical to the HH
down to 0.X numbers

In before Drake gets an “anti-sub cap” ship that way out performs the Perseus
Dunno about that topic, idc if a Idris Railgun can oneshoot it, since its quite easy to avoid that gun
But I expected it to be better than the HH in terms of armor stats lol
And now there is apparantly at least until capital ships no difference between Heavy and Medium armor
that applies to all ships beneath capital class - not just HH and Perseus
Dromeda also has the exact same value as a Phoenix for example
while one has heavy armor and the other one light armor
But they also said they work on T1 Armor (what was about the topic they don't release T0 anymore????) so maybe they fix all those things within that patch with T1 armor
They tested it and found that all ships gets one shot, exception is pooplaris which tanks 2 and half hit
But this will change thanks to javelin coming with 50 million hp
unless you're flying in a straight line towards it 
Its like people years back complaining about the Ares Inferno and Ion
That flew literally in a straight line towards a S7 looking at them
You don't know? 99 percent of players are that dumb
Including me
can't deny it
Since most people can't use basic flight control
let alone comon sense if it comes to larger ships
Like, the thing about outranging larger ships with a fighter? most people don't do that in PvP
simply because they either don't care, or don't know
Press w and hope for the best
meanwhile the person that didn't fight for the first time, decoupled, uses bottom thrusters to rotate, and always outmanovers you lol
even while being in a heavier ship
In a capital ship
I sit in commander chair
And give orders
To the minions
Pilot
Gunner

Then you wake up and realize that you are the only one in the ship
schizophrenia who doesn't love it
at least you never feel alone

There is me, myself, and I. And I’ll have me flying the ship, myself in the engine room and I in a main turret
Just need a 3rd PC for I
XD
At least Drake doesn’t explode after someone sneezes in it’s general direction
(literally what drake does)
But
Drake is like lego
If it explodes, you just tape it together and you have a fully new ship
Tbh
Shiv reassembled looks like
Temu budget cutlass
One thing I thought of, since when soft death you have x10 your hp. I wonder if you don’t instantly explode when you lightly tap a wall with the pulse or dragonfly

Shiv just used to be a cutty, heavily damaged in combat
and then the pilot just scrapped together from the remains in the aftermath of the combat and taped it onto the cutlass
as I said, Lego
10x of your critical part hp *
not total HP sadly
as usual
I turned that blurry 16:9 full HD screenshot into a 14k res 21:9 image I had to do details like the glove sigil pixel by pixel it took an insane amount of time
for my 1200x500mm mousepad I'm ordering its exactly 300 ppi lol and it had to be 20MB for some reason so I had to use all sorts of black magic to get it down from 80MB to 20MB like subsampling at floating point and arithmetic coding
it lost some color depth but at least it retained the pixel density for printing
That ain’t the Perseus
I can't dm it because I need nitro to upload above 10MB lol
I may order perseus mousepad later if the printing quality is good enough
I’m gonna contact them and tell them I’ll pay triple if they change the Perseus to the kraken for your mousepad
This is your only method of file transfer?
Are you from the year 2001?
Thats it, now you have to send it via physical mail


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Wtf
Its a global conspiracy
Gaben protects
What does the STEAM platform have anything to do with the Perseus?
Everything.
If I cant afford the next gen hardware to build a new PC I'll have to continue looking at a blurry pixelated mess on my 49" inch 1080p monitor nor will I be able to make high res screenshots to make mousepad capiche?
Its very relevant and should be relevant to everyone that plays star citizen
You have actually sold me on watching this video, thank you for putting up with my snarky attitude.
Hopelessly addicted to euv
Also im not gonna do that nyx rep grind with an impending wipe
yeah idk why they didn't wiped with 4.5
Sure, the dupe glitch was still there, but got fixxed soon after so far ik
Its always kinda shit knowing that soonish will be a full wipe, and playing doesn't make sense other than for the moment
they waiting for all the people that still dont know a wipe is happening to waste their time to get the idris to then take it away from them
Cig wasting time not adding cowboy hats.
The hats we get due to another outfitter bug causing you to collide and clip through the map as you crawl out of the hab bed
I loved when the 9 tails cyclops lookin helmet would elongate into a conehead
Happy new year

I think Rustle lost his mind
its still 3 more hours to 2026
so have they fixed the percy crash issue or nah
the sound bug that crashes the game? No, it happened to me on a polaris today
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1:58 Ballistic Penetration
5:27 Turrets Suck
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Everyone said the new armor system would fix Star Citizen.
Fi...
wooooooo
light fighter citizen
Just wait for armor and engineering perseus will be great, trust the plan

Armor T1 not until Battle Cruiser releases. Sorry
Cig should just focus on things we currently have instead of adding useless features with 20000 bugs along
For example, why add nyx when pyro has less people visiting it than gamestop
Wdym you don't want the game to be permanently T0 pretty much in every aspect
?
That's another annoying issue which is slooooow updates
They need 5 patch and tons of people reporting something to even bother with it
I mean people still go there for contested zones, but thats it, they said it will have valuable minerals, and especially more of them than other lawfull systems so you have a reason to go there - but without crafting you don't need them, and ontop of that, its not even true xD
I went to nyx, I found it cool, then I logged off after 5 minutes
Thats what I expected from it ngl

Especially after they confirmed that it won't release with anything but levski
I mean what's the point
like okay cool i go maybe once there to buy equip that you can only get there - look around, yeah looks great, looks better than any other place no issue there, but if I simply don't have anything to do there, why do I want to stay?
Especially I heard levski was already in game long ago, so they basically didn't even do anything
If it would at least have the same missions as in stanton that aren't planet bound
like bounty hunting
same payment maybe more since its unlawfull lawfull semi thing
I would very likely stay
But it only has the weird missions that you can barely do alone
Don't ask that, it Will be added 15 years from now
Because its true
It was in 2018 i think
just in stanton
basically like Grimhex
Perhaps the secret is the dates of the game events are true
2955
That's when we will be able to play
Chris is a lizard , we had been had

It's fine I'll leave my legacy behind
@lone bloom I'll tell my 11 th gen after me to let your 11th gen fly bmm
Brother, im still waiting for bounty hunting V2 (I don't even know when we got v1???) 
Nowadays game is dead
obviously, because of a expecteable wipe, and hyperinflated economy
No one wants to log in since everyone waiting for wipe
Imagine
Next patch no wipe

maybe if CIG ever manages to rub more than two braincells together they can turn it into a actual vidya gayme
Big issue is also they say - and most other people say- trust next patch next X and Z will fix Y
But that won't work that way if the core is broken
but it are run by delusional boomers and other "people" that don't play vidya
so never going to happen lol
same as with Engineering, it doesn't fix that larger ships are still suffering the same issues
they never manage to get anything core right so its going nowhere basically yeah
Why would better survivability buff them - when the issue always been that it can't even hit its target in the first place
They do stuck wanting to release perfect game they still don't get that their whole player base is dying sliwly
Le eternale Tech demo
They could just release the game and fix things patch by patch and add new stuff
It can have all the survivability it wants to, and it will still lose to a single fighter
it just increases the time of "when" it loses not "if"
I mean... they did release it technically already
Or aren't we playing it?
its amazing how even with a billion dollars they manage to fuck up the most basic shit
it's liek statistically impossible but here we are lol
anyone else having issues with pdcs?
Okay I'm deleting this before getting banned
Your playing a demo
For the last 14 years
A very long buggy demo
t'is channel is like the degobah system of r/starcitizen we're pretty safe here lol
One day Chris will read it and we will all be yeeted to nyx
Except ravit
Ravit will be stuck in a cell inside a drake ship

don't worry, the bars just rust away
IDK I think the when we go 1.0 the "game" will really die off
when people realize desync will never go away economy always be broken and 10 year old bugs are still there
Unfortunately it will be released when to contend against GTA 9

True that as well
Oh ravit is optimistic
I would've said 300
I bet Elon will build a real BMM before Chris team finally finish white box of it
Were lucky if humanity even reachs the year 2050 without destroying our Planet, so not very optimistic if its gonna realisticly Releases in 100 years
2050 doable, I got my corn syrup expiring at 2055

Fair enough 56 it is then
Syrup just gifted 5 more years
Of suffering


(Esp considering only ai used as much energy and produced as much co2 in few months as the entire City new York in a year)
Also
Way worse than that
Ram prices

How people supposed to see the beauty of our perseus with only 8 GB ram
I hope this bubble burst sooner than later ehhh either way we'll be fucked
its no fun looking at a 49" 1080p monitor sitting only 20cm away from it 
I can count the pixels
but at least I get somewhat decent frames lol
The reason i never go back to full hd
Imagine, people said you dont need 2 or 4k because you cant see the difference (so they said)
(So people said also you dont need more than 60 fps - prob never runned a Monitor that Supports more than 60)
While in sc you can be happy if youre over 50 in major cities
are pdcs broken rn? mine dont seem to be shooting anything
Imagine how much the fps tank on a full - used old Server- with Global illumination
They shouldnt
But also not the first time i hear that
type shi
Prob Server depending if they react or not

Just dont get still why they dont do the same thing as elite, lasers good against shield, ballistics good against armor 
Lasers need to be good against everything

Apparantly but rn pvp meta is ballistics
If they would just do it as in elite people would have to choose either being better at shield deleting or armor aka being better against softer targets that value shield over armor like (supposedly which for some reason isnt true) luxury ships and cargo ships aka very good for piracy, or better against Military ships that utilize more armor
Yet somehow both weaponkits do both in some way

Of course
Knock the components out ASAP. Armor a joke
1/4th the value of total hull
Even less
Thats because ballistic meta
constant pressure on the ship
And until armor nullifies lower grade weapon damage that won't change but they should just maybe fix the core issue - turrets not hitting fighters
Poor bombers are starving because the light fighters are stealing the food. Circle of life a bitch in this economy
Its not just that, the entire combat system always been fucked
I know but it was more or less a joke
They claimed they want larger ships to be multi stages to be taken down (destroying PDC's so torpedos could go through, destroying shield emitters to one shield face may get downed etc)
Gladius {cough}
Oops al Gladius
(and arrow and sabre)
Dude the bucc used to be awesome until they decided it needed to have no hp
Though the 600i being the best solo pvp meta for like, a year was the funniest shit
lmao
Even the elevator had over 200+ kills not even being attached to the ship
It sometimes just would fly off like a UFO and kill someone randomly across the system
We nicknamed it the death disk
Those kind of bugs were so memorable that the newer bugs don't compare to the hilarious events of old sc
Capitals do need an overwhelming presence though. If it's crewed, it should be feared.
It won't until they fix the turret issue


Aslong it can't output damage
Give turrets 800 more speed and that instantly
Its just a bullet sponge
Turrets take the skill out of needing to fly-
But can't hit anything if it's not an AI
Take the skill out of PvE pilots
Get obliterated by not flying something Tanky
Objectively - a turret has to be better than a fighter
otherwise you can place the same person that mans that turret just in a fighter
and would be better of with that
Really it boils down to the fact that it isn't turrets that need to be nerfed, it's people's expectations of a fighter taking down a ship designed to kill fighters solo without effort
It's both though. They expect it because it's currently possible
Obv
But thats the fighter mafia because they say a fighter should be able to take down anything simply because it requires so called "skill" to fly it
(not like coordinating your ship with a full crew and now ontop of that managing power and engineering doesn't require it?)
Really a hammerhead should be obliterating any fighter dumb enough to get close without support
Should
Ngl, any larger ship with a larger amount of turret coverage should be able to do that
Light fighters shouldn't be anywhere near a sub capital without support but hey...
sure the HH should be the best no questions, but others should be able too
Fuck it. Balance it to where fighters don't do shit unless they swarm
Corvette swarm is a tactic in Stellaris
Fighters - esp light fighters should only be there to escort the heavier weaponry that can't defend itsself from fighters (eclipse, retalliator, Ares)
Sub caps and capitals are fighter annihilators
Do it John Crewe
Make the star destroyer fear factor
I mean, lets say a squadron of 6 light fighters, shouldn't be able to take down a perseus with a 6 man crew
specifically LIGHT fighters
They'd realistically just tickle the shields
If its Medium and heavy its a different story
and a Hammerhead should just obliterate anything that has fighter in the name
it should considering S4 is step stone to medium fighters
Idris s7
since light is S1-S3
Jav s7 to s8
Sadly its not
they already said on example of javelin what we can expect
Javelin armor reduced damage against S5
and nullifies S4
That's nonsensical tbh
if you scale that down to perseus
or HH
it makes no sense
since at best they would nullify S1
if at all anything
yours would make significantly more sense, considering the size differences and armor differences and how many ships are inbetween those areas
I'd happily do their balancing lol
I bet many would
Played long enough to understand each ship, their roles, ect
Meanwhile 600I more armor than Starlancer Tac
Plus have flown all flyable
Funfact ontop of that if you didn't know
Perseus (heavy armor) and Hammerhead (medium armor) have the exact same weapon reduction stats
only difference is that Percy has slightly more armor HP 
Yeah
Heavily Armored my ass
If a light fighter can't kill it, it's getting nerfed
Unless you're an Idris
They need gates bad
If it's considered heavy armor, s5 minimum, capital ships excluded.
The issue is they want 'heavy armor' with also depending on the size class, so there is S1-S6 Heavy armor
A 9mm isn't going to do shit to lvl 4 plates, why would a s2 do shit to 4ft of reinforced hull

They said it even themselfes
a 9mm won't damage a Tank
Yet, we only have tanks made out of paper apparantly
The tank crew would laugh and light you up
And also besides the entire PvP aspect of that
Isn't it also a economy issue?
Like, why would I go as newish player for any larger ship (combat specifically)
if I know i can do the same thing, solo, in a fighter thats significantly cheaper?
Speaking of PvE missions
I feel like it should just be like it used to in a way, bigger ship means harder to kill and has a higher chance of killing you
Sure there are PvE meta ships like the connie (ffs) but any ship that can do PvP well can do PvE easily
and thats simply light fighters
If it's a military ship, you done fucked up
unless you bring your own
Yup
or anti military vessel thing
aka Eclipse, Retalliator, Ares
It should be a stone scissors paper thing
That's just it though, by themselves, fighters shouldn't be much of a threat
but rn its a "paper defeats all others"
It's like a wasp
An irritating bug by itself
In a swarm, it's terrifying and painful
Poses no threat alone
but even there I would say
The swarm should be significantly larger
than the player amount in the larger ship
to have a chance
The only offset would be a fighter swarm with bomber/gunship escort
aka if you attack a whatever lets take a Starlancer Tac, has 4 turret gunners (idc that the arc is shit on the two other ones rn) one pilot, one engineer, meaning that the fighters would need at least 7+ people
to have a chance to take that thing down
and would still take loses
That'd be the idea but cig don't know how that works
I'm hoping they learn some balance from sq42 but that's questionable
Tbh
That makes good sense
If a ship requires 7 players to fully man, then it should take 7 solo ships to kill
We did get kinda close and we'll see with weapon changes in 4.6
Squish down the range, and everything had good speeds, but we'll see
Tbh should give everything good speed because if they squish the range n squish PDC it won't work
Just cope more about perseus
Brother I'm coping I get my kraken before I die lmao
Fly it at least once before my shit health worsens
We'll never ever be able to return to pre-mm fm
Thanks Yogi
"we wouldn't want to go back anyways, we're heading forward"
the fuck is NFM
also who the fuck uses his mobile phone sideways

Me
jeez my steam friends sure know how to pick their games
since star shitizen is still unplayable maybe steam sale has something to fill that big black hole
They only have good taste wdym 
lowkey would fuck a protogen
Good to give enemy crew cancer
Syulen one
new flight model
can't be bothered to type that out have to use abbreviations for everything to appear interesting

first thing i read when i get in here smh my head
Protogen spotted

lol game ate my c54 justified smg
1st bunker in and we're already off to a great 2026
why you even playing with a imminent full wipe
had to take the baby out
undusting it




