Perseus Pals

[lone bloom]

BMM is a long term goal to ingame farm

unless they announce anvil carrier kraken competitor

then i have two long term goals

[midnight crypt]

Liberator

[lone bloom]

Isn't a kraken competitor

by a longshot

[midnight crypt]

Does the same exact thing but a bit more soloable

[lone bloom]

Not entirely

Carries fighters, not medium multicrew ships

barely cargo

barely defence

and significantly smaller

[midnight crypt]

Tape 2 liberators together and call it a day

Liberator might even have more armor than the kraken

[lone bloom]

4 liberators*

[midnight crypt]

That point 4 of them just makes a giant ironclad with landing pads on top

[lone bloom]

would still be weaker defence wise lmao

liberator has very little to no defence

[midnight crypt]

Has way less entry points than the kraken

[lone bloom]

why should I care about that if anything can kill the liberator xD

even a fighter

it only has 1 dual S5 turret (somewhere???) and 2 dual S2 turrets

thats it

ah i guess the dual S5 is the one ontop of the bridge

Liberator is more a Ironclad competitor

than Kraken

But even the Ironclad has significantly more weaponry

[midnight crypt]

Liberator could get more guns on it when released

[lone bloom]

it should

Its even more dogwater than the Polaris weaponry for its size

[midnight crypt]

I could also see it more likely getting PDCs since its role brings ships and vehicles to the front line

[lone bloom]

its one of the ships that didn't got powercreept at all

and its fairly a new concept even

2021

I just hope they make a larger more militarized version of it

As actual larger military carrier

https://tenor.com/view/ace-combat-7-aircraft-carrier-scene-1-intro-ace-combat-gif-14055409882676780657

1-2 larger turrets to defend itsself against caps, or larger ships, pdcs, and some smaller weaponry scattered across the hull

one open flight deck and one internal one

aka like the liberator / or a reallife carrier

[midnight crypt]

I don’t see them making another ship like a real life carrier when the kraken is pretty much that

[lone bloom]

I mean Kraken is only a "drake" ship not used by UEE

and gunship wise there is the Idris and Javelin in that area

what else should anvil get?

the battlecruiser? lol

[midnight crypt]

I could see anvil getting a smaller version of the bengal

[midnight crypt]

It could

[lone bloom]

Thats literally what i just described tho?

Bengal is a carrier

[midnight crypt]

Yeah but an internal hangar like the idris

[lone bloom]

Bengal has both

Internal and external

[midnight crypt]

It does?

[lone bloom]

Yes it has a flight deck

[midnight crypt]

Huh

[lone bloom]

infront of the bridge

[midnight crypt]

I never looked at it too hard since it just looks like a dick 😉

[lone bloom]

even has a huge hangar door beneath the bridge

[midnight crypt]

Hmm

[lone bloom]

I mean its focus role is literally "carrier"

xD

better image

So I don't see why the UEE would "not" want a medium/lighter carrier for multiple medium ships or a ton of fighters

besides the Bengal

Since UEE does not use drake ships

[midnight crypt]

But Drake did get invited to ILW so maybe UEE will start using Drake ships.

[lone bloom]

(also would kinda be shit if the only carrier option we have is the Kraken)

(since Drake is either loved, or hated)

[midnight crypt]

Also I thought the UEE uses the cutty red and blue? Or could just be remembering the lore wrong

[lone bloom]

Maybe or milita stuff

Like, local police stuff

I meant direct military

Thats what AI says lol

"Reputation: The UEE tends to associate Drake ships, such as the Cutlass, with high-risk areas, privateers, and potential illicit activity rather than official military service."

also mentiones the cutlass specifically

so its militia service

not officially part of the UEE

[midnight crypt]

Also i would love it if drake gotten the battle cruiser. Since they are suppose to be coming back to ILW bigger and badder and a reveal of a battle cruiser with cooperation with UEE would be perfect

[lone bloom]

would strongly go against the lore tho

Unless drake gets a full redesign of its design language (like RSI got)

[midnight crypt]

But Drake finally got let in to ILW but so many skipped over that part last ILW

[lone bloom]

I mean they could also just go and say that they "accept" them as Militia for local systems

and therefor allowed into ILW

since uee already uses them partially

If Drake gets the battlecruiser - besides having the kraken already and anvil no capital at all - I would highly question that choice, and the lore ontop of that

since why would uee go lore wise, to drake, and ask them for a new battlecruiser ship that surpasses the javelin

while Drake doesn't fullfill any of the standards on ships?

[midnight crypt]

When has CIG ever follow the lore they made. Just look at nyx already…..

[lone bloom]

Thats why im asking why would they

Nyx 1 got explained with terraforming stuff

What would be a possible explenation for that choice of the UEE

"we didn't liked them feel excluded"

lol

[midnight crypt]

But nyx system was suppose to be abandon with nothing there. All the minerals mined up

[lone bloom]

[midnight crypt]

Terraforming to put minerals back on the planet for us to mine??

[lone bloom]

I guess

But that wasnt the question

[midnight crypt]

I could of seen them somehow terraforming nyx 2 or 3 since no one was able to do anything with those planets but they gotten the technology to terraform them for us to get on the planet and mine the precious minerals the planets secretly kept hidden

So since they can’t follow their own lore/half ass reason why they are terraforming nyx 1. Then it makes sense drake could get the battle cruiser

Even though I knows it’s unlikely since they already mention 3 possible manufacturers for the battle cruiser but they can always change their mind

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[humble anvil]

I'll upgrade from a Perseus to a BMM

Depending how the game goes

[azure fulcrum]

I looked into it but don't think thats possible since perseus has never been below BMM price

when BMM releases it'll get an insane price bump probably double

don't think it would be worth it at that point

[heady escarp]

they will put price 999

[azure fulcrum]

if thats the case then it would make sense to upgrade perseus to BMM

[heady escarp]

I mean nautilus and hammerhead

were above perseus

but now they are bellow

[lone bloom]

Why i hear heretics here

Talking about upgrading perseus to bmm

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-heresy-newspaper-gif-8197244

[heady escarp]

anything is an upgrade from perseus

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-bonk-gif-24279189

[heady escarp]

when ironclad assault comes, most will buy it and will be even more popular

than perseus

[midnight crypt]

XD

[lone bloom]

Drake garbage truck deluxe

[heady escarp]

people are attracted to garbage trucks

look at the shiv

everyone fell in love with shit bucket toilet

0 utility

but everyone wanted it

[lone bloom]

Most of their Apartments look like garbage trucks

So it does not surprise me

[heady escarp]

cant deny this

[lone bloom]

They feel home with that

[midnight crypt]

Also clipper. Everyone hated the looks but now pretty much everyone owns one

[heady escarp]

tbh it kinda looks cute now

[lone bloom]

I still dont like it

[heady escarp]

not that I own one

[lone bloom]

[heady escarp]

I hate the wings

[midnight crypt]

You hate anything that’s Drake

[lone bloom]

Not true

I like the kraken exterior

[heady escarp]

what I hate about drake the most, is the control pannel
YELLOW

MAKES MY EYES BLEEEEEEEEED

[lone bloom]

I also can See why people would like the fatterpillar

Usage wise

[midnight crypt]

Drake was green before

[heady escarp]

why did they switch?

[lone bloom]

Because green is anvil

Many mfds were placeholders

[midnight crypt]

How should I know. I hate the orange/yellow since it blends in with the mission markers making it hard to find

[lone bloom]

God i hated that on the sl

Since it used to be yellow too

I just realized i never used the sl max anymore after perseus release

[midnight crypt]

They should give all the manufacturers 3 colors you can pick from instead of the entire ship line got one color

[lone bloom]

Many mfds were placeholders and they used the updated mfds of finished ones until they got their own manufacture dedicated mfds

Thats why they were green

Because anvil was the first one that got the Updated ones

[heady escarp]

[lone bloom]

Gameplay wise i agree, design wise disagree

Guess they choosed the second one

Gameplay wise it makes sense to give options to recolor it,
Design wise speaking for the ship manufactures it doesnt

Ship branding and such

[midnight crypt]

It doesn’t have to be completely different colors. Like it could be different shade of color. For Drake instead of being the Orangish yellow, they could have a very orange color and a very yellow color

[lone bloom]

Orange is used by misc no?

[midnight crypt]

Drake is considered orange but looks closer to yellow

[heady escarp]

oh same as tariff man

CEO of drake industries

aegis, anvil, drake, RSI

all will have big ships

but not the others

[lone bloom]

Banu*

[heady escarp]

not yet

[lone bloom]

Well then anvil not yet either

[heady escarp]

true

[lone bloom]

Banu closer than anvil

[heady escarp]

if you had, 5K dollars, but can buy only 1 OC ship
which ship will you get?

[lone bloom]

Anvil doesnt even has concept one

Depends what you consider oc ship lol

[heady escarp]

original concept

with LTI of course

[lone bloom]

Oc can also be one from 2021 xd

[heady escarp]

doesnt matter if its out or not

??

wdym

[lone bloom]

Original concept could also be one out of the year 2021

[heady escarp]

did ships get sales 2 times?

[lone bloom]

Yes and no but if a ship gets announced first time in 2021 its still a original concept no

[heady escarp]

yes

anyway, whether 2021 or not, what do you choose?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/choices-sesamo-gif-17339400790570888010

[heady escarp]

very delicious choices

I guess the idris M was the one that aged well

[lone bloom]

Prob either BMM or Arrastra

[heady escarp]

ooh

[lone bloom]

Not a idris fan

Even if it has the huge "fuck you in particular" gun

[heady escarp]

you want utility

and versatility

[lone bloom]

Well i just dont need a larger combat ship lol

Why would i if perseus can literally kill anything

[heady escarp]

well

the F U gun is tempting

[lone bloom]

Percy will be the largest combat ship i go for

Unless anvil drops a kraken competitor

But besides that all large ships i will get (besides one likely all ingame bought) will be utility

Technically only need 2 combat ships, 1 multicrew (percy) and any fighter i will settle with

Dont See the point in owning more than that usage wise - combat specific

[humble anvil]

where's muh npc crew chris

[lone bloom]

Aqua lurking

All the time i swear

Worse than null

[tawny fern]

lmao

[lone bloom]

Just want a fleet that can do every loop at least to some degree, and mostly solo (since crew size mostly doesnt matter for loops outside of combat just can go for larger ships directly)

Glad perseus opens up the pathway to skip just the need of going for smaller ships to make the grind less pain since you can just go instantly for the good contracts

Or even medium cargo contracts

[humble anvil]

ye perseus pdcs be instant middle ground no effort required

my type of ship

if effort, tanky enough to hop in the turret and let ships come to it

[lone bloom]

I mean you can instantly grind bounty or foxwell up

Without crew for the first few Mission types even

It just skips alot of the shit part of the rep grind

Like "i really have to shoot those fighters now 300 times just to rep up once?"

Perseus just goes there sits there for a min and done,jump to next

Works until HRT and even there you just throw a torp into the face of target and boom done

That the percy got pdcs Was such a huge Bonus ngl

[humble anvil]

it'd been fine if the remote turrets were pdc capable by default

[lone bloom]

Someday

[humble anvil]

but we should be thanking them because now we got BOTH

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

eventually

[lone bloom]

Could sit even afk in hrts then

Lmao

[humble anvil]

when they start armor gateing weapon sizes

boy boy is perseus going to eat

[lone bloom]

If it can just slave one turret to pilot

[azure fulcrum]

@lone bloom can you pick a fursona for me?

[lone bloom]

It just gonna melt foxwell and bounties

What the fuck am i looking at

[azure fulcrum]

furries

pick one pls

xDD

[lone bloom]

Fell for the gacha furry game

[azure fulcrum]

I need an expert opinion

I trust your expertise

plz help

[azure fulcrum]

yeah the monkey is overpowered

[lone bloom]

Ez

[azure fulcrum]

it's the best one by far lol

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

XDD

ooo eeek ooo eeek aaa aa

[lone bloom]

The furry knowledge leads to unlimited power

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-palpatine-unlimited-power-unlimited-rizz-gif-27511767

[azure fulcrum]

monkeys are overpowered you know your chinese lore

sun wukong

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmm-monkey-monkey-ug-master-oogway-oogway-gif-19727561

[humble anvil]

the people melting the perseus

they're in for a rough time

my space heater cant keep up with the insane amount of cold right now lmao

its insane

[heady escarp]

I melted one

[humble anvil]

well thank goodness you have 2

[heady escarp]

3

gave one to my friend

but the one I have now is only ccu

so kinda meh

I wish I could afford an OC

[midnight crypt]

Pioneer for land claim

[heady escarp]

true, the ship became very expensive nowadays

[midnight crypt]

I think it’s like $8k+ now

I’d be pissed if the pioneer comes out and they sell it with land claim

[heady escarp]

oooof

will become even more expensive 2026

orgs are trying to get all land claims

[midnight crypt]

Land claim is only for building in UEE systems

[heady escarp]

exactly

[midnight crypt]

So orgs don’t really need a base in UEE if they got the people to protect it

[heady escarp]

who knows, I saw many buying it regardless

I guess they know something we dont

[midnight crypt]

I’m gonna build my base in lawless systems. Unless for some reason they give a marker on where everyone bases is at

[heady escarp]

calling dibs on a room inside

😂

[midnight crypt]

It’s just gonna be a small one til they add space stations

Only way to build/fix javelin it gonna be a shipyard which will be off of a space station

But they’ll probably have the javelin get fixed by docking at stations anyways

[heady escarp]

big space stations built by players

will be awesome

and territories

in space

[midnight crypt]

My goal is to mostly solo building a space station. Take awhile but they are gonna have materials that require multiple people to get so reason why mostly solo

[azure fulcrum]

https://freelancer.fandom.com/wiki/Reputation

it's just amazing to me that chris roberts 2003 game (granted microsoft took over and finished it lol) has way more depth and features than we have in star citizen

we can only hope the rep system will be as refined as we had back in 2003 freelancer

it's pretty astonishing to look back on it

rep grind is a core mechanic that provides most meaningful hours of grind and is most rewarding

you need rep for better prices, trading, unlocking new missions, rewards, blueprints, ships, story progression etc etc

IDK man just fucking mindblowing

[humble anvil]

SC Scope creep

[azure fulcrum]

if they would drop the gimmicks and focus on core gameplay mechanics only... man we could actually have a real game sometime

and don't reinvent the wheel just take examples from other existing games hell you could just copy the core mechanics from freelancer 2003

[humble anvil]

Scope creep

[azure fulcrum]

if only the scope creep actually had core gameplay features

only a few years ago they finally gave us a roadmap to 1.0 and promised us they would focus on exactly that

and here we are 2 years later and no progression everything just got worse lol

[midnight crypt]

It will get worse when we get crafting and instead of a recipe that makes sense, you’ll need apex fang, an empty bottle of lux, and your will to live just to make one out of 100 pieces to make a S1 component

[azure fulcrum]

it'll just be wikelo 2.0 lol

so pathetic

makes me appreciate other games and the older games a lot more

[midnight crypt]

SC is an old game 😄

[azure fulcrum]

yeah it fucking is lmao

[midnight crypt]

But yeah they should work on mechanics and the concept ships people paid for over 10 years ago (endeavor and crucible) to have a lot of variety to the game

792 more days til Vulcan hits 10 years and 1340 more days for nautilus

[azure fulcrum]

and the actual gameplay to support those ships lol

[midnight crypt]

They have RRR for Polaris and idris so crucible and vulcan mechanics would already be there

But they still need drones since Vulcan’s whole thing is to RRR with drones

Oh and with ironclad around the corner, crucible can undock with the main body so that mechanic will be there

[azure fulcrum]

wild guess: RRR mechanics are just gonna be exactly the same as RRR on a refuel pad its just copy paste lowest effort possible but the only difference is that you dont pay money but use materials from your ships store

no repair drones no refuel hose no rearm box mechanics

another wild guess: Everything will remain T0 lowest effort possible and when every promised feature will be T0 released we'll go to 1.0 release.

even more pessimistic guess: after 1.0 they'll never be able to complete and polish any core gameplay feature it'll just be more of the same shit "they improve on the features but actually make it worse" adding more timesinks and tedium

disassociating is fun and gacha p2w fomo is addicting so I expect their funding will continue for years to come its about the journey not the destination

and if they prove me wrong well even better

[humble anvil]

Gameify temporary

Make those "spots" on ship access to mobi

Mobi ship repair

[tawny fern]

alright which one of you guys gave me 2 bil

[humble anvil]

i didnt, i dont think, i sent all my money to the org bank

[humble anvil]

18 player server btw

[tawny fern]

[humble anvil]

prowler is crazy

[tawny fern]

i havent tried it in 4.5

can you still get stupid close

[humble anvil]

foxy has a video if it and i checked the values

[lone bloom]

@heady escarp Since you asked if I gonna get a BMM:

[heady escarp]

wtf
BMM looks so fat compared to the other ships lol
u gotta get it

[lone bloom]

i mean its the only cap on that list

xD

[heady escarp]

true

it will have capital shields

but railen which is mid size will get 2 large shields right?

thats tanky

I want both railen and BMM

[lone bloom]

yeah two large shields...

wtf

it has more shields than the starlancer max

[heady escarp]

xD

[lone bloom]

while the SL max is larger

you fucking kidding me

[heady escarp]

its good news

[humble anvil]

oh isee why BMM pilots get 2x s8 pilot controlled guns

its fucking massive

[heady escarp]

yeah

[lone bloom]

likely upgraded to S9

due to size

[heady escarp]

imagine what you can do with a BMM

[lone bloom]

well i have a pledged SL Max

[heady escarp]

tbh I kinda want both railen and bmm now

2 large shields on railen is too good to pass

• its an alien ship

[lone bloom]

tbf why do i even care about the systems on the ship

its never gonna see combat

[heady escarp]

yeah but I want to be protected to dip out

I dont want to be put in a michael bay movie

[lone bloom]

you barely get pirated

i got once interdicted by players

in 5 years

[heady escarp]

I get interdicted all the time comming out from seraphim cause some pirates jsut want to see world burn

[lone bloom]

just don't use OM1 point

[heady escarp]

yeah

always there

[lone bloom]

yeah I don't use the OM points at all

On the other side of Crusader and I want to go to sheraphim?

Just gonna jump to Orison

lol

[heady escarp]

I see, smart

[lone bloom]

Also in addition to the mandatory fleet

Medium salvager

But since we don't have any...

unless arra gets salvage heads for some reason then scrap that xD

Also you may note : no drake ship

[midnight crypt]

Not one drake ship, knew you always hated Drake

[lone bloom]

For a reason

[lone bloom]

Don't need that one if i have the BMM

and coping for a competitor for kraken in terms of carry ability from anvil

[midnight crypt]

😄

Javelin will probably get hangar modules

[lone bloom]

There is so much overlap in functionality

[midnight crypt]

Yeah

[lone bloom]

Isn't a very functional fleet in my view

simply because of that

multiple ships for the same usage

[midnight crypt]

Nothing wrong with that. When we gotta wait days for a claim, nice to have some redundancy

[lone bloom]

its a fictional fleet, not real cash purchase right?

Doubt we will ever have "days for a claim"

[lone bloom]

makes it worse

xD

[midnight crypt]

We most likely will. To keep us from just claiming the ship. Capitals will most likely have days while large ships might get just a couple days. Make us go get the ship back and repair it

[lone bloom]

None of those ships have the survivability to justify a multiple day claim

[midnight crypt]

I could see like javelin having a 10 day claim time

Or take an hour or two to get back to the ship and repair it

[lone bloom]

imagine having a 5 day claim time on a polaris

to just get taken down by a perseus within 2 min

how to kill your game

[midnight crypt]

Well how else would you have players go and get their ship and fix it??? When currently you just hit claim and take a nap

[lone bloom]

As it was said prior by many people: If claim, you get the minimum available stuff on your ship

No reammo, no torpedo restock, no fuel

[midnight crypt]

For the lowest tier. You can pay for better warranty to get everything back

[lone bloom]

Only applies to Components

You still shouldn't get torps back

or full ammo

or full fuel

They should still be part of your "ship loadout" yes, but you should pay for to get them back

So if you decide to claim your polaris for example, say bye bye to your 28 torps

have to repurchases them

[midnight crypt]

So ballistic would take another nerf then if you don’t get your ammo back from it either

[lone bloom]

Thats correct

But ballistic ammo doesn't cost much in the first place

[midnight crypt]

So a lot of ships won’t have torps/missiles while only running laser for most money efficiently

[lone bloom]

well even then you still have to pay for the whole fuel if you decide to claim

and are arguably weaker than everyone who doesn't decide to go the cheap route

Especially if it comes to large ships

a Polaris with Ballistic loadout might win against Perseus in the current state

with lasers? It gets borked

By the methode you said with the multiple days claim time will just forcefully block players from playing at all

"oh my Starlancer Max just exploded for x reason - guess i not gonna play this game for 4 days now because 4 days claim timer"

[midnight crypt]

I could see all starter ships keeping their normal claim time, fighters could go from 1h to 4h, medium ships from 6h-12h large 12h to 2 days. Small capitals 3d-5d and large capital 6d-10d

[lone bloom]

Wouldn't fix the issue tho

Many people don't even own a starter anymore

[desert gorge]

Ye my "starter" is my F7A 😂

[lone bloom]

Yeah bad luck for you according to timesup opinions you would be soft locked for 4 hours

Each time you claim it

[desert gorge]

Good hing is i barely die in pvp 😂

[midnight crypt]

Not like you are only gonna have only 1 ship, use the F7 and if it gets destroyed. Hop into an F8 or another F7 variants. Why I have both krakens. If one gets destroyed, I still have a second one while I wait for the claim on the first

[lone bloom]

And If I only have one ship?

Like majority of players do

[midnight crypt]

Why only have 1 ship??? You can buy a bunch in-game and get ships from exec hangar and wikelo and soon crafting.

[lone bloom]

I meant pledge

You likely will die at least once before you get your first ship ingame

no matter the ship you use

or have to claim for some reason

[midnight crypt]

Rent a ship or borrow a ship from a friend that has a ton pledged

[lone bloom]

Eh, not everyone has likely tons of other players in their friendlist that are constantly online, also meaning that they will lose that ship for X days aswell likely if they borrow it,
and if borrowing isn't a option, depending on "where" you are, renting isn't one either

since you can only rent on major cities

nvm can't even rent on Area18 i think

Your Idea is just simply softlocking people

[midnight crypt]

Always crew a multi crew ship to wait for your ship or gain money to buy more

[lone bloom]

Majority of people solo play... and you wanna force them to multicrew^^ also a great idea

[midnight crypt]

Hell, I spent hours at orbituary delivering that package inside the station that takes 1 minute to complete for a couple hours straight

[lone bloom]

And there comes again also ontop of that that money gets shared/splittet, and its not profitable for anyone to multicrew

And because some people have hours of time to do a simple task for some reason - people that only play 3-4 hours per day have to suffer .-.

I see

even while 3-4 hours only in SC per day is fairly also alot

[midnight crypt]

So damn negative. Giving you ways to do something and you keep giving what if scenarios. They are increasing the times what they are currently whenever they rework insurance. They could just double the time for all the ships instead of drastically changing but we don’t know how much til it happens

[lone bloom]

Yeah its indeed negative if you softlock players out of the game xD

Very simple scenario: New player, no friendlist, has a gladius because its one of the cheapest fighters he could grab. Dies in a fight of a MRT mission because he doesn't know much the controls yet, claim timer 3 hours, and he has his respawn at Area 18

He would have no other option other than to beg other players in global chat to either take him with them as crew member, or have to to go offline for 3 hours

If that would be my first experience, i would refund

[midnight crypt]

Cheapest ship would be the mustang. Someone brand new wants to buy a starter package and upgrade it to the gladius before they even play the game is stupid

[lone bloom]

I didn't say cheapest ship

And there are a ton of people that don't go for the cheapest option

Many go for the connie

or cutlass

[lone bloom]

But you're avoiding the given scenario - tell me what else he could do in that situation other than those two things?

[shut zodiac]

Some solo players buy ships because they look cool as well.

[lone bloom]

Renting isn't a option because he either doesn't have the money for it since he is new(since they increased the costs of renting a while ago btw already) and is at area 18 where you can't rent ships in the first place, and doesn't have friends with shit ton of ships since he is new

what can he do?

[lone bloom]

Ofc that too, friend of mine has for example the Syulen

Knowing that the 325A or Titan are better technically

Its just simple as that: assoon it can and will softlock players out of the game its not a valid thing that should be implemented

[midnight crypt]

Local delivery at the planet or station. And waiting 3 hours would be the free claim. Can always expedite for UEC. Which it would only cost couple thousand how it is now. And they give you UEC for RRR and food. That aren’t starting out at 0 UEC

New starter ships give 20,000 UEC now and they should be plenty for expediting and RRR for starting out

[midnight crypt]

Connie or Corsair they are less solo and more multi crew so they are already gonna have a horrible time trying to keep their ship being a ball of fire than claiming it and waiting

I started with the cutter and played for a couple of weeks then gotten the Zeus CL. Majority of players aren’t gonna instantly spend $200 on a Connie before even trying the game for 1 hour

[lone bloom]

So you paddle back to the state we have kinda right now

[midnight crypt]

They gonna remove expedite when they change insurance????

[lone bloom]

Dunno but you didnt specify on if your time is expedite or not.

Especially since nobody ever uses the normal time

Except for logging off

[midnight crypt]

No wonder I see so many people begging for money. Keep paying for expedite. I got almost 600mil AUEC and I still penny pinch. I claimed my idris couple times since I didn’t want to spend 40-50k on RRR and used another ship to do something else

[lone bloom]

Expedite isnt costing much

[midnight crypt]

Adds up when you blow up every 10 minutes

[lone bloom]

But having a few min vs a few hours of actual claim time like you prior said is a huge difference, and since you didnt mention just expedite it as i mentioned multiple times the soft lock im pretty sure you meant expedite with those hours

[lone bloom]

If you Blow up every 10 min with a idris its genuiely a skill issue

[midnight crypt]

I could see them having tiers of expedite depending on how fast you want your ship back

[midnight crypt]

I’m talking about the majority of everyone since you said they’ll only have one ship and they’ll blow up and gotta wait 4 hours

[lone bloom]

"majority" owns ships between premium starters and smaller multicrew vessels

not a Idris

Meaning the cost for expedite is significantly less

[midnight crypt]

Yeah

[lone bloom]

If a Idris has a 4 hours claim timer and 1 hour expedite i don't say anything about that

If a fighter has 4 hours claim timer and 50+ min expedite, I will say something

(since you said 1-4 hours for fighters)

[midnight crypt]

At the same time say the idris has 6 day claim and a 2 day expedite. Javelin 10 day claim and 4 day expedite.

Every ship will get effected and make you cherish your ship more than just run in there and die

[lone bloom]

Thats what death of spacemen is for, not your insurance or claim time

[midnight crypt]

CIG said they want you to go get your ship and repair it than just claim and 2 seconds later have no problem. Game needs some difficulty. Can’t just baby everyone. No meaning to even have insurance, just as soon as it blows up, have another one instantly sitting there or if you don’t feel like landing the ship at a station then go and claim.

[lone bloom]

If any ship between S1 and S4 has a expedite above 1 hour, players gonna be angry, S5 can maybe have slightly more than a hour at best, huge capitals that are specifically only meant for org battles (Javelin, Bengal and variants, Battlecruiser) can have huge claim timers, since you won't use them in regular gameplay at all, and aren't supposed to enter the same fight again if they blow.

[lone bloom]

Giving the simple option to play the game even after dying isn't babying

I agree that there should be some kind of punishment for losing your ship, or die with your ship - but thats what Insurance is for, and what Death of a Spacemen is for

You punish the wallet of the player, or the equipment, not the ability to play

[lone bloom]

Otherwise we are back here

And Insurance and death of a spacemen is already alot of punishment in my view

[midnight crypt]

I don’t even know how they’ll implement death of a space man. Makes no sense when we are able to regenerate at a hospital or med bed

[lone bloom]

They pretty much clarified on that already alot

And death of a spacemen is also already in my view kinda also already very excessive punishment

As from what we know of it

Afterall you lose access of your ships temporarily and have to pay a fee to get it transfered all to you, including the inventory, all reputation gets lost or just some % will be transferred (which will likely have the biggest impact), you lose your entire gear you had on your body (unless you gonna pick it up again if not looted by a player) and because of the insurance thing, you will either entirely lose that ship, or only get stock components back depending on your insurance

Thats a very huge list of punishments just for dying and you want ontop of that to softlock players

[midnight crypt]

They should just remove engineering. And abandon the whole concept of trying to retrieve your ship back. Refund anyone that bought the Vulcan and crucible since there will be no gameplay at all if you can just easily claim the ship with no penalty

[lone bloom]

you didn't read the punishments at all did you?

[azure fulcrum]

reading is gay

[lone bloom]

[midnight crypt]

Yeah I did. They should never implement it since a cheater can just TP to you and kill you and lose everything. But if your ship blows up from a cheater. Just send a report in and CIG could remove the claim time and give everything back while they go and ban the cheater

[lone bloom]

in literally both scenarios you die

also cheater is extremely weak argument considering you rarely encounter cheaters at all in sc

[lone bloom]

Also potentially losing your ship entirely is in your view not enough reason to keep it alive or get it back with a SRV or repair ship?

Claim time won't do shit there

Or in case of pledged ship or ships with a warranty token: loosing potentially all component and weapon upgrades you have put into it

[midnight crypt]

SRV and all RRR are just gimmicks if there is no use with short claim timer. Just like a medical beacon. They can have a repair beacon and someone shows up with a Vulcan or crucible and fixes you up

[lone bloom]

You can't claim a ship that has no warranty on it

so what you do there?

[midnight crypt]

Why buy an in-game ship and not put warranty on it??

[lone bloom]

Specified that warranty tokens will be one of the rarest things in SC

I wouldn't use a ship without, but some may do it, so they just gonna say "meh fine don't have a ship then, since repair is non existent anymore"

[midnight crypt]

Get 2 warranty tokens just by playing SQ42 and doing the story mode in SC

[lone bloom]

So far ik only 1 token by finishing story mode in SC

they never said (prove to me if they did) that SQ42 will give you one

and considering even with two, lets say again you have a gladius, so don't need it for a fighter, you likely gonna need a miner for ressources for basebuilding, there goes one, then you also may need a salvager for the same reason, but now you also need something that can basebuild since you need some place to craft maybe new ships that can't be bought, oopps you only had 2 tokens^^

[heady escarp]

IM BACK

went out in the cold to get foood now I can focus on ships again

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/freezing-elmo-meme-it's-cold-winter-shivering-snowing-gif-12639548316257805494

[heady escarp]

oi gime the link so that I create my own preferable sheep fleet

I literally tested nearly all the ships so now im sure what ships I want

[lone bloom]

wrong ping lmao?

[heady escarp]

nothing is ever wrong !

its on purpose

[azure fulcrum]

bro my rtx 4070 is 2 years old and already its starting to coil whine

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[azure fulcrum]

kinda sounds like this

[heady escarp]

here is

my futur

fleet

[lone bloom]

Alot of awien

[humble anvil]

BMM is getting PDCs

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-cat-glorp-cat-glerp-alien-gif-1655357165594988381

[heady escarp]

Im an alien fanatic

[lone bloom]

yeah but only 4

[heady escarp]

I came to star citizen for aliens, not for usa fighters

[lone bloom]

Pretty shit for its size but its better than nothing

It only has 4 because it was originally sold with them

[azure fulcrum]

get rid of vulcan and edpanse replace with the xi'an medium fighter san'tok yai and banu dfender

[heady escarp]

railen with same shields as perseus

[heady escarp]

tbh I kinda put them just because

I dont have any tie to them, I dont like them much, im just curious

[azure fulcrum]

exapnse completely made obsolete powercrept by ships that can refine and mine at the same time lol

vulcan also because most carriers will get RRR now

sooo kinda ujseless sheeps tbh

[heady escarp]

ah

then ill delete them

[lone bloom]

Yeah its still quite "wtf" why military ships have similar or less shields than other ships non military and even significantly smaller partially too

[azure fulcrum]

not bad honestly

[lone bloom]

(arrastra)

[azure fulcrum]

the newer ships get refine capability its kinda blatant shameless powercrepe

like the RSI salvation gets refining

[heady escarp]

perseus looks so smol compared to chunky BMM

[azure fulcrum]

but the reclaimer gets the refining removed from the storepage description at the same time salvation releases lol

get fucked

[lone bloom]

wuth

that little shitten gets inbuild refining?

[azure fulcrum]

u didn't know lol?

yeah it refines while you salvage and then it poops out the boxes ready to sell

[lone bloom]

I mean Perseus is small

compare it to a javelin lmao

[heady escarp]

ayaa let me compare

with pooplaris

[lone bloom]

pooplaris is 5x the size

(in 3D)

[lone bloom]

But that can every salvager no?

[lone bloom]

they all poop out the scu containers

oh you meant that

lmao

[azure fulcrum]

no

[lone bloom]

so they will poop out different material then that needs to be refined then after?

aka vulture and the other misc one

fortune

[azure fulcrum]

yeah those dont have a refinery built in

[lone bloom]

The moment when the starter salvager outclasses the ones that come after

that kinda makes Galaxy x Salvation kinda obsolete now

[azure fulcrum]

pretty much

[lone bloom]

except for drastically better cargo

[azure fulcrum]

salvation is kinda useless anyways it is way too slow to make money with it

welll

thats also because they nerfed salvaging profit

[heady escarp]

pizza is kinda useless and makes you grow fatter
yet everyone still buys it !

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-hippo-mottomotto-gif-2800813249166631130

[heady escarp]

[azure fulcrum]

😭

[midnight crypt]

Can google star citizen fleet viewer

[midnight crypt]

Use the warranty tokens on large/capital ships. “Steal” a friends capital and take it to pyro to put it in your name and then slap the warranty tokens on it

[midnight crypt]

Oh didn’t scroll down enough to see you already made it

[lone bloom]

Only works with max rep on pirate guild, and also only if you even are part of them

since it locks you out of mercenary

and also still have to pay a huge amount of money to get that ship renamed

[midnight crypt]

Could be better than trying to build one at a shipyard

[lone bloom]

Its more cost efficient sure, but you also lose potentially access to all UEE services

Permanently

Huge tradeoff for that advantage

and ofc requires you to have friends who have those particular ships you want/need in the first place

[midnight crypt]

There is also repairing a wreck you find and putting a warranty tokens on that

[lone bloom]

Don't know about that one, never heard of that

[midnight crypt]

I think it was from the 2024 citcon

[lone bloom]

But also, will require surely still have to pay alot of money

and surely will also have a size limit

Otherwise I could just go make the ship of a friend with a pioneer for example go soft death, then "i" repair it and place a warranty token on it after paying the xx% of the original price to reown it to me

And reduce the costs of any kind of ship by that methode, and would never have to craft anything or farm for anything other than money

Pretty sure they put a size limit on that methode

BEcause of that

[midnight crypt]

Yeah. That’s why when I heard them talking about the warranty token, it’s just an easy way to “dupe” ships instead of grinding and building it at a shipyard

[lone bloom]

kinda comparable to GTA 5

Allows you too to steal cars and "own" them

but only beneath 100K value

and also only if those are AI cars

could put the exact same limits to ships

Only AI ships, and only beneath X value or X Size

Would automatically block the methode to just ask a friend for X ship

[midnight crypt]

CIG could over look that and probably do a wipe when everyone owns a javelin and pioneer

[lone bloom]

Usually thats a thing that should be one of the very first things of a "what if player does X" scenario and how to avoid it...

But knowing CIG, i agree lmao

[humble anvil]

CIG

[grave canyon]

whenever i play with the perseus my game crashes periodically lmao

i love this game

[humble anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcPBsrci7C0

wow look, nothing of value here

rip

[lone bloom]

My fps literally stayed the same

[humble anvil]

ye

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

2x fps would mean 200+

for me

lol

[azure fulcrum]

bullshit creators

[lone bloom]

Paid creators

[azure fulcrum]

zero stutter lmao

in what world

[midnight crypt]

Probably has 4 PCs with thread rippers and 5090s running together to run just star citizen

[lone bloom]

I will use now the exact settings he says in the video

if it aint at 200+ fps constantly clickbait

[lone bloom]

he indeed shows a 5090 in his settings

also thread ripper is shit for gaming btw

[azure fulcrum]

instead of watching a halfhour video it would've been much faster if that "content creator" just made a textfile with settings

[lone bloom]

thread ripper is a server / render CPU

[midnight crypt]

For SC it is shit for being unoptimized

[azure fulcrum]

shameless shilling and timewasting

[lone bloom]

"smooth motion activated"

yeah bro

only 5000 series have that

[midnight crypt]

5000 series and their fake frames

[azure fulcrum]

every patch the "most optimized settings" change

one patch DX is better other patch its vulcan

[lone bloom]

new issue is now they don't continue to work on DX anymore

and vulcan is the only renderer supported for VR

[azure fulcrum]

nice

[midnight crypt]

Most of the time SC will only run 50% GPU and CPU. Which is nice that I don’t have to worry about my cables melting on my 4090 but there is times I’d drop to 5 fps

[lone bloom]

Also worth noting they say vulcan is the better future renderer.... yeah because the other one is DX11... a outdated renderer since we have for years already DX12

[azure fulcrum]

also he gets about the same frames I'm getting -- however this fucker doesn't show you how performance degrades over time

like after an hour of play and loading in different areas shit starts to stutter real bad

5090 has barely any FPS gain over 4070 super

buttt it does have more VRAM

and star shitizen leaks ram all over the place

IDK never really exceeded ram even with just 12gb vram

and I got 64GB of regular ram so yeah

doubt its going to help with performance degredading

[lone bloom]

So testing now lets see if i get 200

Very big doubt

I just saw lol

that dude has the exact same performance as me in 4K with zero of his "so called improvements"

and he has a 5090... i have a 4080

[azure fulcrum]

yep what I said same as me

he's full of shit

[lone bloom]

stutters

instantly assoon i left the room

and i have infact more fps

than him

[azure fulcrum]

the frames dont mean shit if you get constant stutters and desyncs

[lone bloom]

130-160 fps

with 18-20 fps stutters in between

[azure fulcrum]

not much of a benchmark unless you travel to different areas and play over an hour

[lone bloom]

well he didn't either

[azure fulcrum]

yeah exactly my point

[lone bloom]

he even has stutters in the video

[lone bloom]

Just by standing at the same area it degraded already from 130-160 to 90-100

within 10 min

[azure fulcrum]

lmfao

[lone bloom]

and stutters still there

[azure fulcrum]

I've given up on trying to fix it because nothing makes it better well... except for lowering mouse DPI to 250hz

[azure fulcrum]

does it stutter when moving your view with mouse?

[lone bloom]

how does that fix it, im not moving anything

[azure fulcrum]

ah right then it won't do anything I guess

[lone bloom]

i mean it shows the 1% low

[lone bloom]

and its always 10-30

every few seconds

[azure fulcrum]

those content creators 100% know they're lying to us

they only do it to shill the game and get that CIG money

[lone bloom]

I love the fact btw

that changing resolution does NOTHING to the Fps

like "how?"

how does it not change them?

Switch between 4K 2K and full HD, the fps literally are the same

nvm 2K even worse than 4K

[azure fulcrum]

star citizen is such a CPU molesting game that any GPU setting barely affects your performance if it all

mouse DPI does affect CPU load tho

[lone bloom]

Just that even the best cpus can't play it without stutters lmao

I mean I have a pretty good one and SC just won't run smoothly all the time

I wonder how SQ42 will run

[azure fulcrum]

yeah got the 9800x3d it did help but still the same issues tbh

[azure fulcrum]

SQ404 apparently is still slated for a 2026 release it'll be very buggy and unoptimized probably... IDK maybe because its offline it'll run better? At least we won't have desync

[lone bloom]

I mean it surely also has to render less so maybe better fps wise

(except for the heavy render cutscenes that appear to be ingame and no video scenes)

I just saw what you did there with the 404

But SQ42 will also likely set the future fade for SC

Since SQ42 should - theoretically - contain most of the features that are supposed to come to SC

if it doesn't or they bug or don't work at all (or aren't there in the first place) i think we're cooked

[midnight crypt]

What you mean, the entire game will be hosted on their servers so if you don’t have good internet. You’re screwed

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but will it be run entirely on their servers liek have server tick

[midnight crypt]

They host the game and stream it to your PC

[azure fulcrum]

or just telemetry

[azure fulcrum]

LOL games as a service

SQ404 is a live service

I think you might be on to something

thats scuffed

[midnight crypt]

Yeah but then you realize that they’ll host like 100k+ users and it constantly keeps crashing for overloading server

Which shortly after they’ll add a queue but if you pay $50/mo, you’ll get put in a priority queue so you can play the game faster

[humble anvil]

so this game called aion 2 came out in TW korea asia region right

its p2w slop

or you have to play 16 hours a day every day

man what has the world come to

[humble anvil]

So sad, yah know. Atleast they seem to be catering more towards PVE so I can potentially avoid the entire PVP side of things but it seems pretty toxic for PvE. Like groups kicking if you die in raids

Normal MMO behavior lol

[midnight crypt]

Isn’t their goal that you’ll rarely ever see a player out in the wild and there will be a shit ton of NPCs. I remember them saying something about that

[azure fulcrum]

korean themepark MMO

[humble anvil]

Oh yeah Star Citizen, yeah supposed to be heavily pve

[humble anvil]

Ye.

Filled with bots so I don't really have any want to play it lol

[humble anvil]

@tawny fern really hoping this MSI 271QP is good man. I'll eat a scratch or two but I pray. Lol. The prices kinda chunked upwards after the sales on black Friday.

4th gen tandem OLED also Lowkey only slightly more vibrant with massive banding issue(?)

[tawny fern]

its worth

but if u dont think its worth

boom refund no problem

[azure fulcrum]

banding? that's terrible I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy

I'd rather have ghosting than banding

[humble anvil]

Xd

[humble anvil]

breakneck s4 are so strong lmao

wtf

[lone bloom]

well

do they break... necks?

[minor field]

[lone bloom]

Interesting work to basebuilding ended supposedly in november

According to Progress tracker

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

[humble anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4frlUZdmGc

[tawny fern]

its actually

pretty strong in 4.5

idris better though

way way way better

[humble anvil]

it is, it is pretty strong in PVE.

[lone bloom]

i mean the more people complain the more buff it will get

even while being strong

[humble anvil]

@lone bloomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQn4FKk_zHI

[tawny fern]

@humble anvil when does ur oled arrive

[humble anvil]

Tuesday apparently

It's really close

[tawny fern]

lets go

before xmas too

[humble anvil]

It left a nearby town very early today

It hasn't arrived at the delivery area yet but it's literally the next state oveer, it's very close

Lol I'm almost betting the thing is destroyed, i will be very surprised

As a ex-USPS Employee I saw people throw shit

[tawny fern]

has stuff arrived completely destroyed before or something

[humble anvil]

It's always the expensive stuff I worry about, yah know electronics are so fragile

[tawny fern]

i mean my box was just the bigass alienware monitor box

they probably handled it with a bit more care than a doinky little 1 pound amazon box

[humble anvil]

My packaging in order details is "heavily damaged packaging, will not come in original packaging"

[tawny fern]

what does that even mean

why would they say that

[humble anvil]

When I see packages atleast as an ex-USPS Employee, when I knew it was expensive, I put extra care into it

[humble anvil]

I bought it "used-good" : Screen like new, perfect functionality during testing, packaging heavily damaged"

[tawny fern]

oh

well that explains that i suppose

[humble anvil]

I bought many things this way save some money

I got the 7900 gre used good

[midnight crypt]

Go to the nearest micro center near you. I don’t buy anything online anymore. Drive 2 and a half hours to the closest one to me 😄

[humble anvil]

I didn't even check mc

Probably have a really good deal

No they don't

Lol

I got the 280hz for 400$, I reckon that's pretty good tbh

I think there was an Alienware 360hz for 440$ but I fiddled by dick

And now they're charging 600 I think from the 535 from BF

Oh

I got scammed

This was 550 and they price adjusted

[azure fulcrum]

wow 💀

I hate the stand plastic crap

[humble anvil]

Does feel a bit shit tbh, like imma get something used that's the same exact price

[lone bloom]

Well paying significantly less for the same product with the same quality, just that the original packaging is damaged is good i guess

afterall the packaging goes to the dumbster either way

[azure fulcrum]

often when an item is returned there is something wrong with it

I'm never going back to anything smaller than 49"

I've considered 45" 21:9 display ratio but nah not doing it

only going up 57" — 120"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1IhcqlqH4

altho 45" in this context makes sense

because they're the only ones with 800r curve

dome screen when

[humble anvil]

Ye but they usually state it's specifically scuffed, but no worries!!! If scuff, i will attempt price adjustment, or rebate. Otherwise return depending on severity

Who knows the story behind this one

Oh 4th gen oleds can get bright

[lone bloom]

Well if there is something wrong with it they have to state so on the store page

If it said that pretty much only the packaging is damaged there shouldn't be any damage to the actual product

Very likely that the person that bought it prior (or the store that bought it prior) sended it back instantly assoon they saw the package since at least here in germany you don't have to accept any kind of order if already the package has damages and then it lands also on those shelfes with price reduction

even while the thing thats inside of the package is totally fine

[azure fulcrum]

in a perfect world yes

[lone bloom]

Well, you can always just send it back if its not as stated on the store page

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

ofc costs time but still pays less if it works like that

[humble anvil]

D...D RAM

[humble anvil]

Lmao

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-yay-happy-nice-cheering-gif-17426799

[heady escarp]

Somehow the comment: we got one shot by idris in the video, made me close the laptop screen

[azure fulcrum]

formidable astounding heroic gunship

OK CIG

[heady escarp]

Makes me remember that pepsi ads they claimed it can cure pneumonia

[humble anvil]

Yeah they can make a damage gate specifically for the Idris Railgun so it can one shot everything

[heady escarp]

Not pooplaris

[humble anvil]

As if 4.5 engineering never happen

Ye the one outlier

[heady escarp]

where is the flames they promised

I wanted to play firefighter this patch

[humble anvil]

I turn off life support so flames never happen

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-thats-illegal-halo-meme-gif-14048618

[humble anvil]

Fucking hell

Nothing going on

[minor field]

I refuse to touch videogame until next major patch

4.5 is just 4.4 but more tedious

[lone bloom]

Yk whats funny, some people in spectrum say Engineering is "too hard" "and just too complicated"

wdym you just hold (once again) an beam on the component

thats it?

[severe lynx]

honestly it shouldnt change how you played like before unless you still do 1 pip on a single cooler only

[heady escarp]

im waiting for wipe

[lone bloom]

Pretty much lol

besides that ships are more squishy now

[severe lynx]

goes both ways at least

[lone bloom]

With some exceptions

Glad you don't have to worry about power pips in percy

xD

Literally almost full pips to everything

[heady escarp]

before the patch
IDRIS owners: 1 shotting everything
after the patch
IDRIS owners: 1 shotting everything

[severe lynx]

yea about the same for me

[lone bloom]

Yeah idk what the second pip on weapon does

[severe lynx]

probably for the torrent PDCs

[lone bloom]

But those are ballistic

they also work just with one pip

[severe lynx]

oh yea that tracks

thats interesting

[lone bloom]

it changes nothing with 1 or 2 pips

https://tenor.com/view/robert-its-pissing-me-off-robert-its-pissing-me-off-worm-gif-11975495890325360423

[humble anvil]

My name is Robert

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/marcus-gif-4075808345584318849

[humble anvil]

CIG

[minor field]

I wonder if pers will ever be nameable

[humble anvil]

Supposed to be like everything

JCrew said it's not in a good spot for names rn

Every ship is setup for it

[minor field]

Kirkseus will have to be postponed

[humble anvil]

@tawny fern the monitor comes today

@lone bloom the monitor comes today

[lone bloom]

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[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-fail-monitor-pull-plastic-pull-monitor-fail-gif-20439306

[azure fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/cUrJVdF2me0?si=4LOJIStnvDTX86B2

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

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[reef wind]

Year of playability as a chunk of users got locked out for 4 months due to an AMD bug

Gimme whatever Chris is smoking

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[lone bloom]

So what will be next year then

Year of functionality?

[reef wind]

Year of ship fires

[lone bloom]

lmao

thats already there

[reef wind]

Brother, I'm going to set every ship I board on fire

[lone bloom]

don't have to board even for that

BUT I wonder

If you board a ship and set it on fire

and it explodes

does it count as vehicle destruction?

[reef wind]

Nope

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-smile-cat-smile-orenge-cat-smiling-gif-23133369

[azure fulcrum]

Year of scamability

[reef wind]

You didn't cause external damage so you're considered a passenger

[lone bloom]

so you can just board other people ship and just set them on fire without getting crimestat xD

[azure fulcrum]

Year of liability

[lone bloom]

but you shoot at the internals?

Kinda have to otherwise it won't catch fire

[reef wind]

Right now that doesn't matter considering you can ignite a ship simply by using arc weapons

[lone bloom]

Year of "lie"ability

[reef wind]

So you power off coolant, overclock power and shields, let it get toasty, and cause electrical fires

No cs

[lone bloom]

didn't happen on me

[reef wind]

The railgun can cause fires but not reliably

[azure fulcrum]

Theyre problaby liable to investors to release sq404

[reef wind]

I noticed life support has a higher ignition rate than most comps

[lone bloom]

As I actively tried to cause fire in Perseus i put all pips to shield etc and power cooler off, it got up to 200-220*

but no fire

and also stopped rising

[reef wind]

You gotta get life support to at least 20% before it begins to fail

It'll spark and ignite

[lone bloom]

so you still have to shoot the comps^^

[reef wind]

To a degree yes but there's other cheese methods

Rocket launcher

Grenade launcher

Railguns

P6lr

Anything with a high burst damage

Arc weapons aimed at the fuses have a chance too

I did like, 4 hours of tests lol

Whether they adjusted them on live is another issue

I'll do more tests when I'm back from Florida