All cones are dead
#Perseus Pals
humble anvil
jade reef
Did they nerf the Wolf yet?
heady escarp
ares inferno I had videos popping up about it
whats up with it?
humble anvil
It's snappy
jade reef
I have just about every non WB exclusive or stock limited ship in buybacks lol
humble anvil
Very snappy
When you click it goes brr
Not slow wind up
It's max rate of fire in 0.3 seconds
heady escarp
seems interesting, is the distance of firing not nerfed?
its been a while since I played that sniper ship
jade reef
Oh
humble anvil
But just wanted to show the speed
humble anvil
It spins up fast and fires longer now
S2 shield buffs incoming
Next patch
It gets 2
Tons of coolers
jade reef
4.6 or 4.5.x?
jade reef
Oh what I thought they put 4.5 to live like just now?
humble anvil
No
heady escarp
4 km seems good, I can't remember but the stealth build on it is it good? If yes it can potentially be deadly
humble anvil
4 km seems good, I can't remember but the stealth build on it is it good? If yes...
Not stealthy enough
heady escarp
Not stealthy enough
Yikes
heady escarp
wanted to poke others from far, my dream shattered in an instant
humble anvil
Would be nice but yeeeee nope
heady escarp
Hopefully next year's ship Zeus Mr is released
humble anvil
I like how fighters have less component damage modifiers vs the heavily armored Chad Perseus
heady escarp
I like how fighters have less component damage modifiers vs the heavily armored ...
Wasn't Perseus exploding lol?
heady escarp
That's not dmg that's Michael bay inside
humble anvil
Perseus 1 of a few ships instantly exploding
heady escarp
humble anvil
heady escarp
At least
One good news
If it's exploding you don't need engineering to fix the problems
humble anvil
heady escarp
february I guess?
as always, they gonna throw a full patch with updated bugs, and somehow fixes during january, then tests mid january and probably by the end would be 4.6 I guess
serene egret
Buying a Perseus was the most money I have ever put out for Pixels. I know we can expect changes but lawd jesus, that Dev making the changes must HATE the perseus.lol
heady escarp
Buying a Perseus was the most money I have ever put out for Pixels. I know we ca...
legend says the devs actually spy on this channel, and wanted to give us a big disappointing surprise
serene egret
<:DogChamp:796856543873204254> legend says the devs actually spy on this channel...
One heck of a christmas present thats for sure.haha
heady escarp
Perseus was supposed to be the ship of the year
turns out it was Meteor V2.0
at this point right now, people already melted it, either went with polaris, or go back to the early doritos series
like zeus
or constellation
some are hopefull for the galaxy, but Im not
serene egret
Honestly, I'm about to melt mine and just go back to my original line up and add something new for the extra 300 I put out to get the Perseus.
azure fulcrum
Buying a Perseus was the most money I have ever put out for Pixels. I know we ca...
I guess we deserved to be scammed for being that gullible for CIG marketing
heady escarp
Honestly, I'm about to melt mine and just go back to my original line up and add...
if you dont enjoy it, then its only right to melt it
azure fulcrum
every other combat ship got overhyped
serene egret
Maybe drop 50 and get a paladin. Damn They are abouut to get me again
heady escarp
tbh, if not for the door and the no cargo space, paladdin wouldve been ship of the year
azure fulcrum
tbh, if not for the door and the no cargo space, paladdin wouldve been ship of t...
it has cargo space tho 4-6 scu or something?
can easily drive pulse inside
heady escarp
it has cargo space tho 4-6 scu or something?
that tiny space I can barely put a bike
but here is the thing, when I do missions, I dont want to spend 10 to 20 minutes fidgetting to put a bike
I want it to go smooth inside and go out fast
azure fulcrum
<:kekw:875083074956820540> that tiny space I can barely put a bike
IDK paladin is still not worth the hassle to get another crew member because you can basically do the same in a connie or corsair or mx whatever
get the solo pilot controlled dps of a paladin
heady escarp
you know what the best combination would have been>?
if they let us put ursa medivac inside zeus
or inside paladin
azure fulcrum
if they let us put ursa medivac inside zeus
the entrance is too low to fit an ursa I think
heady escarp
the entrance is too low to fit an ursa I think
technically can still fit one but I have to destroy the tires
azure fulcrum
yeah...
heady escarp
and yeah I prefer to roam with the medivac especially in hostile territories that shoots u down
so now the issue, is that there is no mid ship apart from constellation series
or the corsair with ugly wings
that can carry it
minor field
Are stats out or should I grab them
minor field
Pers armor health is the same (57k) but much better resistances
<DamageInfo DamagePhysical="0.7" DamageEnergy="0.5" DamageDistortion="1" DamageThermal="1" DamageBiochemical="1" DamageStun="1"
don't see anything else interesting
Polaris shield hp is insanely low still lmfao
desert gorge
So u can slap pdcs on everything now eh 😂
midnight crypt
So u can slap pdcs on everything now eh 😂
anything that can take S1
desert gorge
I assume it still auto shoots at stuff same as how fury works
midnight crypt
probably. havent tested it out yet
desert gorge
Anyway how are the next set of changes going
midnight crypt
whats funny is the MTC can hold 2 of them so it has double the firepower than the MDC XD
severe lynx
hmm so dual 7CA for shields now?
since the military shields seem to have negative resistance
desert gorge
It will always have worse resistance and faster drain
Since its high power component
^^
But it seems it got changed that it regens slower again? Last patch it was certainly faster than other components
humble anvil
<DamageInfo DamagePhysical="0.7" DamageEnergy="0.5" DamageDistortion="1" DamageT...
It takes 50% energy, 70% physical
Good
Everyone gets the reduction
humble anvil
So basicly 1.5k dmg from an ion ?
Only takes 70% damage
Absorbs 30% of it
Well nullifies 30%
It's a bit confusing
Like his armor only absorbing 50% of ballistics
And arbor is only absorbing 70% of it and the rest is going through
humble anvil
Oh I'm sorry
It takes 30% less physical damage
And 50% less energy damage
But the armor itself takes 15% less physical damage
And 30% more energy damage
This makes no f****** sense
But it's attributed to Armor
desert gorge
Im doing co fused unga bubga
lone bloom
VR Support in ptu did anyone test that already?
desert gorge
Only seen the Pipeline video
Would this work with mouse and keyboard for fps to or shipcombat
Or are sticks needed not a big stick fan
lone bloom
Prob works both
Wonder if the vr Controllers work
Could imagine that fps is Controller only and ship stuff mousekeyboard or stick
clear bluff
if they get detected as a gamepad they should work
desert gorge
I would want mouse and keyboard for both 😂 but i guess will have to wait for tests
lone bloom
Guess its soon time to fly perseus in vr
desert gorge
Gonna assume head movement is VR like eye tracker than? I never used it so curious lul
lone bloom
Well you should be supposed to also move
Not just your head alone
Like if you walk in real space you should also walk ingame
desert gorge
Ye ok fk that than lol 😂 not a moving type im fat
desert gorge
Thst what i would have mouse and keyboard for tbh.... 😂
Guess ill stick to eyetracking
lone bloom
Guess fully depends on how they integrated it in their settings
Could also imagine its for now only head tracking
azure fulcrum
Pers armor health is the same (57k) but much better resistances
it got nerfed and now is the same as hammerhead
lone bloom
brother
what
My prediction came true Medium armor = Heavy Armor according to CIG now
so either the Hammerhead has now somehow heavy armor, or they nerfed Perseus down to medium armor
Choose your poison be like
tawny fern
tawny fern
So
Perseus is probably gonna stay as a glass cannon
Since they cant seem to fix the powerplant apparently
In the mean time, 4.5 sounds like a great opportunity to fly around one shotting people with a sabre firebird
reef wind
Looks like the bucc is back on the menu
azure fulcrum
Perseus is probably gonna stay as a glass cannon
Its just a bigger meteor now lol
lone bloom
Funfact- Ares can also penetrate Idris armor
so Perseus and Ares are the only ships that can hurt Idris
Ares Inferno or Ion sound more and more like a must have rn aslong the glass armor stays like it does rn
since it onehits most ships with that, and can still kill larger ships aswell in seconds
azure fulcrum
azure fulcrum
AAA tech demo
lone bloom
and since its a direct quete from croberts - I will now higher my expectations and standards
To AAA Level
azure fulcrum
Smoll indie AAA
lone bloom
30+ hours gameplay time, no game breaking bugs, and barely any bugs overall at launch
That are my expectations now since its called AAA by him
I know he won't fullfill that
he did that to himself now
lone bloom
Good lucj with that lol
Considering their tutorial mission crashed already X times in the preview
GG
including facial textures missing or glitching out
while cutscenes
azure fulcrum
Considering their tutorial mission crashed already X times in the preview
Computers fault, it worked flawesly inhouse or so they said
azure fulcrum
Sooo no sq42 because of gta6 in 2026
lone bloom
Besides GTA 6 so its still scheduled for 2026
He obviously doesn't really care about GTA 6 release
or purposly does it maybe even
prob he thinks SQ could take on GTA 6 release since he states that he hopes it will be an almost equally big event
(big doubt there btw)
azure fulcrum
Squadron 42 will launch at a point in 2026 where it won't be overshadowed by the most anticipated game of the coming months, Grand Theft Auto VI. "We hope it will be an almost equally big event. Aside from GTA 6, it's probably the biggest-budget AAA game," says Chris Roberts
What??!??
lone bloom
yeah don't understand the last part
azure fulcrum
So early 2026
lone bloom
19 november 26
azure fulcrum
This is interesting
lone bloom
Big doubt
But 19 november blocks Citizenscon as release date pretty much
unless they wanna release with GTA 6 in the same month
and doubt thats a good idea for any game
azure fulcrum
Lets cope they ship it soon so they can finally work on the pu
lone bloom
I would say no major game should release in a +/- 2 months around GTA 6 release
lone bloom
Lets cope they ship it soon so they can finally work on the pu
So you say
Many games in the past couple of years released in a broken state
and needed months (some up to a year) of fixxing
prime example Battlefield 2042
azure fulcrum
lone bloom
Cyberpunk 2077 aswell
At least the console version
and pretty much every CoD since corona lol
azure fulcrum
Yeah but maybe after 3 years of polishing it aftee
lone bloom
they flip flop back and forth between if its now polishing phase or not
They said feature complete recently
but said a year before polishing phase
Which.... doesn't work that way
azure fulcrum
Its not feature complete lol
lone bloom
Obviously not XD
but so they said
so they said the crashes were the computers fault at citizenscon ykyk
Its at this point schroedingers Game
its either feature complete, polished, or fully broken, and you won't know until you can play it yourself
or - even better sanity and financially wise - wait until unpaid youtubers make reviews about the game after it launches
so you save yourself potentially 80 bucks
tawny fern
prime example Battlefield 2042
Dude
Dont even get me started
Wait
Oh i thought that said bf6
Bf6, dont even get me started
tawny fern
Maybe if u enjoy tanks
lone bloom
tanks pretty weak wdym
tawny fern
And garbage maps
lone bloom
There is so far only one garbage map (the oil tower thing) in my view
no i don't mean firestorm
lone bloom
if you enjoy glass ships
tawny fern
Stealth ships gonna be feasting
And uh
Idris owners
What am i saying idris owners have been feasting since that ship released lmao
azure fulcrum
The pilot controlled s10 weapon makes no sense
lone bloom
Wdym you dont like a weapon that melts even the heaviest armored non capital in 2 sec
lone bloom
No ship besides ares and percy can hurt you
tawny fern
At least the paper ship can build my paper base
lone bloom
At least the paper ship can build my paper base
And vr Support is kinda there now too
Basebuild with vr and with new Planet tech next year aswell
tawny fern
lone bloom
Works ofc only if you have a vr Headset i guess
Still cheaper than buying DDR 5 ram rn tho
Pats my 64 gb ddr5 ram
tawny fern
Oh so you can use the new tech then
tawny fern
lone bloom
I mean flying perseus in vr will be something
humble anvil
CIG 
lone bloom
CIG <:dogekek:599027502735949834>
Did you saw the armor changes? xd
HH and Percy have same armor now
humble anvil
Oh everything got that
Have to see but I think there are even tankierships
One that has a 0.6 modifier and I think I saw a 0.65
CIG balancing is like broad blanket balancing right now
I don't know the way that s*** is laid out confuses me
Like we have armor modifiers but we also have hull modifiers
But we also have fuse and component modifiers
And I'm pretty sure the hammerhead has 40% less damage to components while the Perseus has 20%
Everything is just a little f*****
The biggest thing and I hope they get it is when you power plant clip the Perseus it instantly explodes still
tawny fern
Rustle
Are u gonna be able to afford a wikelo idris
U know one of the nice things about perseus in 4.5
This channel doesnt have nearly as many trolls and ragebaiters as when we were nearing perseus release
humble anvil
Are u gonna be able to afford a wikelo idris
I'm not getting it
lone bloom
and a yacht has more than a armored military craft
or connies all having the same armor value bespite being 4 different types of roles
reef wind
I know they said the 890 glass is made of a super high density composite but otherwise uses standard material for the hull so it doesn't make much sense.
The carrack and perseus should both be relatively higher grade armor
Considering the polaris density in most places, it has a thinner hull than the 890
But in terms of material grade, it should be denser
I don't know how the hell they decided the factors but damn is it bad
lone bloom
I know they said the 890 glass is made of a super high density composite but oth...
any glass is made out of that
That doesn't apply only to the 890
lone bloom
So, when do we get germanium?
tawny fern
Capital ships are made out of crobertsanium
lone bloom
what is a wehraboo lol
tawny fern
Like someone obsessed with nazi germany hardware and history
lone bloom
no you can't
tawny fern
Lmao
tawny fern
Yeah we’ve got many wehraboos in the states
lone bloom
its literally forbidden here to have that
tawny fern
At this point who knows if its even a joke lmao
Yeah i forgot about that
Germans crack down hard on that
lone bloom
i mean even games that included the original flag or such
had to remove them in a german version of the game
and replace it
Wolfenstein for example
tawny fern
Are there swastikas in warthunder? I dont think so right?
lone bloom
No
they have the prior german symbol but not that one
but i think thats globally like that
tawny fern
Yea
lone bloom
prob to avoid to have two versions of the game
tawny fern
Yea i suppose, 4 s5’s for no reason
lone bloom
and all other ships that may been a threat to its state for that size got nerfed down
all others, just not the connie
tawny fern
I thought scorpius antares and cutty blue have snares
lone bloom
they have dampeners
not snares
Mantis is the only one with both
and Zeus MR (someday...) which is also RSI
tawny fern
Snare is the only one that disables nav mode?
lone bloom
at least I think it has a snare and not just dampener ig
lone bloom
Snare is the only one that disables nav mode?
no dampener disables it
but snare actively pulls you out if you're already in QT
tawny fern
I swear i just read something the other day that those 4 ships have the dampener
Oh
Ok yeah
lone bloom
dampener blocks it if you want to QT
Snare pulls you back out of QT
so mantis is the only ship that can block whole routes
and not just OM points
where also nobody could come and help you
lone bloom
""ALERT, ALERT, EMERGENCY STOP" is a sound alert you might be familiar with if you have been unfortunate enough to cross ways with some of the more violent inhabitants of the verse.
This happens when you get interdicted because a hostile Mantis has deployed a Snare."
tawny fern
And zeus mr is getting QED too?
lone bloom
dunno rn if it has a snare too
it surely has EMP and dampener at least
(first ship that has both btw)
lone bloom
yeah just dampener
and EMP
So Zeus (MR) only ship with EMP and dampener
Mantis only ship with a snare and dampener
Connie generelly being the best PvE ship
Yes, RSI is biased
xD
tawny fern
And auroras getting gold standard
lone bloom
Especially considering Bengal is RSI too
tawny fern
Polaris
lone bloom
Polaris been just a mistake i guess
tawny fern
Wait wheres my perseus rsi bias then
lone bloom
I mean it got upgunned from its original concept
and got PDcs and additional S3s
annnnd is the only ship so far with stock blades once they release
also arguably better for combat (pve) even with engineering than a connie
literally still the best non capital combat ship to get for PvE
tawny fern
Absolute boats
lone bloom
Its simply all ships are glass
but percy is still the tankiest among.... the glass
Its like the golden dumpster
its still a dumpster - but golden
tawny fern
Yeah especially with concierge paint
lone bloom
Even while I would say rn Agility > Armor which would only favor fighters again (since you cant kill what you can't hit, even when its glass)
tawny fern
Yeah
tawny fern
Ok so
If you’re doing vhrt’s or the nyx rep grind
In 4.5
What ship do u bring
Solo
lone bloom
Ares lol
heady escarp
zeus, I want to sometimes stretch my legs !
tawny fern
Assuming the plan is to just fly in, kill the target and warp out right
lone bloom
<:DogChamp:796856543873204254> zeus, I want to sometimes stretch my legs !
annnd you're dead
lone bloom
Assuming the plan is to just fly in, kill the target and warp out right
i mean Ion can literal onehite fighters
and in VHRT or nyx rep there are mostly fighters and one larger ship
tawny fern
Hmmmm
lone bloom
aslong you hit them before they overwhelm you you will be fine in a ion
heady escarp
im not saying ares is bad, but, I prefer to have a ship versatile to do many things and not only space kill missions
if only it had an inside...
lone bloom
but we were talking about combat?
heady escarp
but we were talking about combat?
in combat yes
then again... the answer is always IDRIS
😂
lone bloom
If you have one, yes
tawny fern
Yea but like
heady escarp
if I could sure why not
tawny fern
Multipurpose ships are gonna be awful in combat
lone bloom
they already are
heady escarp
Multipurpose ships are gonna be awful in combat
cant be worse than perseus
lone bloom
Perseus is still the most armored ship (excluding caps)
tawny fern
🤨
heady escarp
lone bloom
its "less" glass than other glass ships
heady escarp
umm wait
tawny fern
Less armor THAN A MOLE
tawny fern
Yea its dumb
lone bloom
we knew since PTU
W1
they already nerfed polaris fairly down tho
polaris was at 1.2 mil
heady escarp
obviously a 2300 dollar ship cant be same strenght as a 975
lone bloom
Thats how the armor values would've looked like if I would've done it
lone bloom
obviously a 2300 dollar ship cant be same strenght as a 975
Yeah stupid "us" if we didn't buy a 2300+ dollar ship
how dare we
next time better pledge the battlecruiser
heady escarp
😂
heady escarp
next time better pledge the battlecruiser
its fine its fine
wait till the 4K dollar or 6K dollar ship comes,. we still have chances !
lone bloom
guess battlecruiser is the last large ship they will sell
or other words" biggest combat one"
Since they clarified that the bengal won't be sold
lone bloom
larger than the Javelin
tawny fern
O jesus
lone bloom
smaller than a bengal
bengal will be likely the largest player flyable ship
and battlecruiser largest player "buyable" (plenge store) ship
lone bloom
probably
5000-6000
already soft announced for ILW
(concept ofc, not release to PTU/PU)
tawny fern
Well
The cool thing is cig just releases ship with no teasers
So we really could have anything
Perseus with kit weapons is still a possibility
lone bloom
lmao
I mean you can still guess at least the manufacturer
WIll be surely AEGIS, RSI or Anvil
one of those three
likely anvil since anvil has no larger combat ship bespite being a very military manufacturer
And Drake falls out of that since they don't have ships in the UEE Navy
lone bloom
They already claimed that PDC's arent resembling what Blades are supposed to be
Since those PDCs aren't rn working like they want them to
obviously since they flip flop between aimbot and useless xD
tawny fern
Introducing ai blades will shake up the meta as much as engineering will
Assuming they work how we think they will
lone bloom
Well it will pretty much blade turrets outside of S1
So they surely will shake up the meta
lone bloom
Introducing ai blades will shake up the meta as much as engineering will
eh engineering didn't really shake up the meta... Idris stays still winning in terms of PvE, fighters still laugh at large ships
Fighters even got better with engineering since they can take out larger ships even faster now lmao
tawny fern
Hopefully with blades, light fighters will go bye bye
But it all depends on computer power right
tawny fern
Just because the a2 has a billion guns, doesnt mean every gun can be bladed
Oh i asked you a while ago
Are the computers modeled in the perseus?
lone bloom
no
Only two open component slots
interesting A2 has 2 computers but it doesn't say which size
if its M sized it can blade all turrets
ah no nvm the webside didn't state the smaller turrets (probably mixxed it with m2)
it could at best blade 50% then lol
aka all dual S5 ones
aka 4 turrets
midnight crypt
for the perseus if you have extra missiles, do they stay on a claim or do you lose them?
lone bloom
stay on claim
midnight crypt
😮
lone bloom
unless you actively pull them out which makes it kinda pointless to have them then
(but could dupe either way)
midnight crypt
i am thinking of having a full missile rack on my perseus and idris m and didnt want to waste the time if they werent coming back on a claim
lone bloom
It fully depends
If they're chilling there in the rack, you get them back on claim
but if you use them to restock the active ones for example, you won't get them back
midnight crypt
oh so if not used they come back but are gone and would need to be replaced if used
lone bloom
yep
since you pull them basically out of their vehicle weapon slot
so you can restock them with extra steps tho
since the ones in the active slots will always be there
just unlock ports, pull them into the free racks, and then reammo on pad
or hangar
midnight crypt
thats easy for perseus. but i have no clue on how i can put missiles in the rack of this idris m without going through the hallway
midnight crypt
you think they'd put an elevator from hangar to the missile rack room
lone bloom
Just because the a2 has a billion guns, doesnt mean every gun can be bladed
If the A2 has 2 M computers/avionics it can blade 4 turrets (doesnt say if its M or S sized computers, only that it has two) Perseus for example has 2 M computers which means it can blade all turrets (since percy only has 4)
tawny fern
Where do you see computer/avionics slots?
lone bloom
Ingame?
tawny fern
Oh
heady escarp
wait till drones come out
lone bloom
<:DogChamp:796856543873204254> wait till drones come out
got more and more the feeling that basebuild drones gonna be the first implementation
midnight crypt
i hate how they somehow messed up so bad for the idris m missile rack
heady escarp
got more and more the feeling that basebuild drones gonna be the first implement...
since they did promise base building next year, then yeah probably
lone bloom
when did they promise that its coming next year?
midnight crypt
port side is way off but starboard side is perfect
heady escarp
when did they promise that its coming next year?
they said that somewhere and im too lazy to search for but im gonna try
lone bloom
Only know they promised Crafting, Nyx 1 with Genesis 5, and the new Raid mission
lone bloom
I personally expected Basebuilding V1 this year already
lone bloom
CIG usually tends to hold their promises
The question is just a thing of "when"
like - its coming- but it can be next year, can be in 5 years, can be in 10 years xD
azure fulcrum
Excited for the next perseus nerf tonight
heady escarp
what???
lone bloom
I love btw that the A2 has still so many concept pictures on the storepage
heady escarp
another nerf???
lone bloom
that look significantly better than the ingame A2
heady escarp
arent they tired of nerfing it at this point?
azure fulcrum
another nerf???
Perseus need more nerf it shouldnt be allowed to dmg idris at all
lone bloom
im kinda sure they don't know anymore what to nerf and what to buff across the entire ship list
ah yes only the Ares should
heady escarp
im kinda sure they don't know anymore what to nerf and what to buff across the e...
we saw that many people complained about wolf 21 fin
so for wolf 22 we added 2 MORE FINS !
tawny fern
The ugly fin is gone
heady escarp
wasn't the fin removed?
no idea I melted that shit
heady escarp
it was cool looking ship but the fin made me mad so I just melted and moved on
lone bloom
Wolf L22 > L21
tawny fern
22 doesnt have a fin
lone bloom
it was cool looking ship but the fin made me mad so I just melted and moved on
They removed it
lol
heady escarp
They removed it
MY MELTING IS FASTER THAN THEIR UPDATES !
heady escarp
light fighters good for light missions, fast and good immersion overall
but youll get bored after sometime
lone bloom
Where do you see computer/avionics slots?
lone bloom
Except 325a thats my waifu
tbf thats a "interceptor"
heady escarp
imagine they put the big canons of perseus slaved to pilot
wouldnt that make the solo players community happy?
tawny fern
Unrealistic but i would be happy
heady escarp
it might make me repledge perseus tbh even tho the nerfs suck
tawny fern
When blades come perseus will be insane
lone bloom
also a thing thats weird
Why has the components of the Perseus no door infront of them?
heady escarp
Why has the components of the Perseus no door infront of them?
whats the point? if someones disable perseus the ship explodes anyway
heady escarp
well, I dont know, im not one of the drunk devs who created purrseus
most anticipated ship of the year my a**
id rather look at pizza ship
if only it wasnt salvage and had an inside
lone bloom
it technically has a inside
a cockpit - and you can also walk into the salvage hold xD
heady escarp
😂
I doubt my friends would fly with me holding
it looked so cool
rip
lets add 125 dollars to it and nerf it
a lot
heady escarp
humble anvil
I
That would be a crazy gift
That would encourage people to buy the ship to use the paint
humble anvil
Well obviously
lone bloom
i mean there only got 10 gifts leaked, so there are 3 spots left
one might be that percy paint perhaps
it fits at least the color scheme
tawny fern
Its gonna be
POLARIS
and
ZEUS
Because those ships dont have enough skins
Maybe even c1 spirit
tawny fern
Oh wait yeah spirit paint got leaked
humble anvil
its just kinmda oofies.... they gotta fix the powerplant killing the entire ship when it goes into a 'dead state'
but damn for s4 and s5 you will likely kill the hull before you ever kill the powerplant
laser weapons*
oh no..
lone bloom
but damn for s4 and s5 you will likely kill the hull before you ever kill the po...
Remember them saying hard death only happens when power plant goes critical? Yet still hull hard deaths you
humble anvil
Remember them saying hard death only happens when power plant goes critical? Yet...
perseus has double whammy
tawny fern
Wow
humble anvil
my hud in arena commander is dead
@tawny fern@lone bloom whats a ship that has multiple parts of the body like a nose, body, rear
clear bluff
my hud in arena commander is dead
first time?
humble anvil
and isn't a critical part
the m2 maybe?
catepillar
the catepillar has a nose, tail, but the body is the critical part...
wow
damage transfers from nose to body just fine. like 4.4
but then the perseus: instant kill ship when nose goes 0
so hull C has this staggered hull as well
tawny fern
<@164906229192327168><@409827451468906496> whats a ship that has multiple parts...
I dont get it
I thought every ship had nose body rear
Or do u mean multiple parts of the nose body rear?
humble anvil
Or do u mean multiple parts of the nose body rear?
alot of ships and how damage has worked for a long time
is if the part is not a critical part, when health reaches 0, it soaks into the next part closest
for example the polaris, and unfortunately polaris is bugged but this is how it worked since it's release and many other ships as well
So the BODY is the critical part, but you can attack rear, nose, neck, whatever
and if you killed those parts it would just be 0 hull points, and any further damage would go into the closest thing
which in retrospect if all ships would instantly fkn explode when any of those parts are broke well we'd have a funny game
tawny fern
O i see
Hammerhead?
Wait isnt the hammerhead nose a critical spot
And rear
Or no
Oh god
lone bloom
"where it belongs"
so on the knees?
Torpedo boat should only have enough weaponry and shield to defend itsself
not to attack
humble anvil
Critical timer for powerplant doubled. Only the power plant will receive damage now (and not other components and thrusters) when a critical part, such as the ship hull, reaches zero health. Increased shield regen and health for S2 shields. Fixed fuse damage modifier for single seater ships with no interior. Fixed shield balancing for capital ships. Further Idris M and Starlancer tac armor updates to differentiate military variances. Fix for ships overheating when initially spawned by asop. Add Legend to the 3D View. Adjust AlertIcons to support static critical icon. Fixed Rooms Buttons circle size. Add darkening background to Filters. Made font sizes and spacing more uniform. Adjustments to weapon nudge and angles. Added fuses and more filled salvage canisters to ship component shops.
they may have just fixed
THEY FIXED IT
HUZZZAH
tawny fern
Lol
lone bloom
They fixxed... what?
azure fulcrum
ehhhhhhhhhh?
lone bloom
at least not see anything in the video
"Further Idris amd and starlancer tac armor updates to differentiate military variances" so sounds like Perseus didn't got its armor yet in the first place then?
and that it just has basic armor with no heavy armor tuning
humble anvil
we back
azure fulcrum
"Further Idris amd and starlancer tac armor updates to differentiate military va...
ehhhhhhh so confucious wtf happen
starlancer tac is military?
like idris M?
tawny fern
Lmao
lone bloom
starlancer tac is military?
yes? what did you thought?
tawny fern
Post the perseus pals we’re back/its so over/we’re so back graph
lone bloom
Post the perseus pals we’re back/its so over/we’re so back graph
ngl i think that applies for literaly every ship club
except idris since idris just winns consistently
humble anvil
"Further Idris amd and starlancer tac armor updates to differentiate military va...
what u talking about
azure fulcrum
yes? what did you thought?
excuse me but sterrenlanser tek military? but it hve no pdc
lone bloom
what u talking about
Literally what you posted
azure fulcrum
so yes its military
everything cumbat a military now?
lone bloom
They probably just meant Combat and not "military military" lol
azure fulcrum
325a military?
humble anvil
oh
azure fulcrum
xDD
humble anvil
i didnt read that far Fixed shield balancing for capital ships. Further Idris M and Starlancer tac armor updates to differentiate military variances.
lmaooooo
tawny fern
what u talking about
Ships are getting their armor values adjusted based on role
azure fulcrum
I hope
clear bluff
idris m armor: 2300000
tawny fern
Individually
azure fulcrum
idris m armor: 2300000
.> fuck me
lone bloom
Thats why HH and Perseus have currently the same armor
Because its base Gunship armor
Not Medium light or heavy armor
humble anvil
Individually
how do we know this
lone bloom
how do we know this
Because they just adjusted Idris and Starlancer
azure fulcrum
"most heavily armeured for its size lmao
tawny fern
Well they just adjusted yeah lol
lone bloom
They're setting base values for each ship and adjust the ships after according to role
tawny fern
The just singled out 2 ships and changed their armor values with an explanation of why
As apposed to huge blanket changes unga bunga
azure fulcrum
Or cope idk
omggggg u rite it not a cope!
I see now loo at idris M
they gave more armeur than regular idris
tawny fern
Are the values up?
humble anvil
not on spviewer
azure fulcrum
olakeen not that quick
steel thistle
they gave more armeur than regular idris
how much idris base got now?
azure fulcrum
Are the values up?
no I just mean that first they establish base armor value for each ship then after they apply the heavy armor
azure fulcrum
how much idris base got now?
IDK mane
humble anvil
idris M armor: 2300000 idris P armor: 2 160 000
lone bloom
spiewer still not updated tho
azure fulcrum
idris M armor: 2300000 idris P armor: 2 160 000
what about idris P
tawny fern
Whats starlancer tac at now
humble anvil
@clear bluff gimme values babe
azure fulcrum
spiewer still not updated tho
olakeen is awake pet drop early so he's gonna release ittonite
lone bloom
no I just mean that first they establish base armor value for each ship then aft...
wonder if just perseus gonna get buffed then, or both HH and Perseus and their armor value is just size estimated
clear bluff
<@969547673445228594> gimme values babe
what values
lone bloom
Idris P
clear bluff
idris p is unchanged
lone bloom
so 2.16 vs 2.3
clear bluff
yes
azure fulcrum
wonder if just perseus gonna get buffed then, or both HH and Perseus and their a...
probably gonna get buffed later
azure fulcrum
idris p is unchanged
ohhhhhh......ok
azure fulcrum
idris p is unchanged
it sitll the same idris P vs idris M? identical HP?
lone bloom
probably gonna get buffed later
I hope soon because polaris, idris and Perseus are probably very hot rn in terms of buffs and nerfs xD
Wonder why they did it with Tac first
Probably to see reactions
azure fulcrum
hmmmmmmm
clear bluff
it sitll the same idris P vs idris M? identical HP?
think so
the shield git nerfed a bit
clear bluff
red is old
azure fulcrum
interesting
clear bluff
also they disabled melee punching components
lone bloom
tbf they said already they will do so
clear bluff
they did?
clear bluff
mb then
lone bloom
clear bluff
ah well they just enabled that now lol
lone bloom
probably
So it takes now about 76 perseus Medusa bullets to kill a other perseus (only attacking the nose) but it still hard deaths by hull hp zeroed
and about 30-40 from the back lmao
humble anvil
So it takes now about 76 perseus Medusa bullets to kill a other perseus (only at...
it didnt hard death attacking nose for me
damage transfered to body
lone bloom
i just kept shooting and at some point it did hard death
humble anvil
yeah damage transfers to body
minor field
humble anvil
im so tired xd
but this news is good. survivability stonks up.
anyways in regards to armor adjustments based on role....
spviewer updated
s2 shields doubled
ooo
now wait just a god damn minute cig
4.4
4.5
4.4
4.5
lone bloom
Ion needed about 50~ bullets to the back of the Perseus
(pure hull hp not components)
lone bloom
well Ion kills perseus hard death from the very tip with 47 shoots
same as from the back
Lmao
lone bloom
tac vs max or what
humble anvil
wow
"Hammerhead Ship Armor(armr aegs idris m)
Durability
Health
2160000
2300000
(+6%)"
they took hammerhead ship armor for idris
naming at CIG
Polaris back up to 648k shield
890j up to 540k
lone bloom
azure fulcrum
only 7% less armorhmm kaywhatever
midnight crypt
did they not make a difference for armor for the both them M and P?? spviewer says its still the exact same
humble anvil
ahhh they didnt.. good devs
humble anvil
did they not make a difference for armor for the both them M and P?? spviewer sa...
they fucked up and adjusted both
pretty much tldr; M has 140k more armor than P
minor field
tldr; SC devs are very competent
midnight crypt
was hoping for it to have a bigger difference
humble anvil
so its interesting, idk why ship weapons are causing powerplant to instantly detonate
but in fps if you 0 it out it flicks the ship red but disables
and doesnt go critical
50/50 shot it actually detonates the ship
midnight crypt
they should just disable the powerplant from just completely blowing up til they come back from break and actually work on the game. they just throwing in random numbers and trying to get this update pushed out
humble anvil
for example you will see the lights flick
powerplant disables
have no hud again so testing is dead for me lol
but yeah when shooting with a ship it instantly explodes ship
idk why
but fps doesnt
they get rid of this 1 thing and instantly its better
because for perseus if a powerplant is penned, its not a big deal enough pips to continue on
but that critical state bullshit is so dumb
just turn off the component
midnight crypt
yeah i thought their whole plan was to encourage you to go grab your ship and fix it up. all they need to do is make all ships only ever soft death unless it gets hit by something that would just incinerate it like a S10 bomb landing on an aurora. and at least double maybe even triple claim time to have them decide if they want to wait for a whole new ship or spend say like few minutes to get like the perseus working again
humble anvil
please continue to upvote so CIG fixes before PU patch https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-190041
tawny fern
yeah i thought their whole plan was to encourage you to go grab your ship and fi...
I think im pretty convinced cig doesnt know what they’re doing
humble anvil
I think im pretty convinced cig doesnt know what they’re doing
for example:
ships with multiple shields
There's not enough armor to warrant the extra shields
ship will be hull killed before those extra shields are ever used.. outside of the veyr niche scenarios where a cannon will penetrate armor n kill the shield
lone bloom
I think im pretty convinced cig doesnt know what they’re doing
Never thought otherwise, because if it wouldnt be like that, it wouldnt be 13+ years in development and the only larger things they Archived is traversal without loadingscreen, and static server meshing
While lacking behind in pretty much everything else
lone bloom
ship will be hull killed before those extra shields are ever used.. outside of t...
So more than two shields is still shit and literally just decoration?
humble anvil
So more than two shields is still shit and literally just decoration?
Until hard death stops being a thing
When we can almost never experience hard death outside of powerplant explosion, then those extra shields will be useful
Shit just ain't durable enough for extra shields to matter
@lone bloom Reading the patch notes sounds like
That's what they're doing tho? But that's not how it plays
lone bloom
The usual "it should but it doesnt"
humble anvil
Perseus bugged out it's ass
humble anvil
I geuss if critical hull gets 0 then powerplant dies n ship sits
But
I didn't test other ships in PTU
Patch prior they still hard death
lone bloom
I geuss if critical hull gets 0 then powerplant dies n ship sits
Maybe it does happen but since percy just goes boom when critical ... you dont See it
minor field
It's weird to me that the pp is able to explode at all without going through the meltdown timer first.. It'd be nice if power plant just stopped taking damage once it goes critical, and the only way to fully kill the ship (besides waiting for the reactor timer) is to kill a vital part
humble anvil
Probably why I miss it
lone bloom
Would have to have someone sit in perseus
humble anvil
It's weird to me that the pp is able to explode at all without going through the...
That what it's supposed to do
minor field
That what it's supposed to do
Oh
humble anvil
It's supposed to disable
lone bloom
And check the powerplant while getting shot
lone bloom
It's weird to me that the pp is able to explode at all without going through the...
The powerplant ist the vital part tho
minor field
I mean like vital hull part
lone bloom
That isnt supposed to kill you
minor field
I'm really curious what 4.5 PU is gonna look like
lone bloom
Supposedly only powerplant is supposed to hard death a ship
humble anvil
Need someone to get kill caterpillar or Hammerhead in PTU
lone bloom
But it just doesnt work that way rn
minor field
humble anvil
N see if they soft death
Or hard death
When vital goes 0
Because I didn't check
lone bloom
But still wondering if it gonna work at some point like that
And youre flying with a ship that has a s2 powerplant
And pull it out once it goes critical.... youre pretty much unkillable unless boarded?
humble anvil
Technically yes
lone bloom
humble anvil
Just another complaint from me, as S3 is unable to pull out replace
lone bloom
Ngl they should add a turn off Button in ships with s3 comps or larger then that does the same thing
As pulling out
humble anvil
But repair should stop critical if it doesn't just disable anyways
lone bloom
Ngl they should add a turn off Button in ships with s3 comps or larger then that...
Like a emergency shutdown Button
lone bloom
But repair should stop critical if it doesn't just disable anyways
If only repair would stop the meltdown as it should
But it doesnt
humble anvil
Thought they fixed that recent, very recently
lone bloom
Dunno just saw it in Videos maybe they fixxed it already
humble anvil
I ain't ever see critical state on Perseus
lone bloom
But even then a emergency shutdown Button for s3 or larger comps would be good
Like ship is soft death while that is activated, but you can repair up and such without melt timer
Or wait for rescue
Since you couldnt do so otherwise while ships with s2 or s1 can
Wonder how many people lost Patience and melted the perseus already just after getting it