Perseus Pals

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

prob got price bumped to match

[lone bloom]

Would've been a great thing just to buy that prebuild pc for the original pre bump price

and just resell the ram

Stonks

But I doubt anyone buys ram for those prices at all

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

And, when do we think 4.5 will go Live?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-gif-25089028

[desert gorge]

never hopefully

[lone bloom]

I genuiely hope they do

[desert gorge]

they way its balanced RN fk that

[lone bloom]

Ofc it will fork the Perseus temporarily, and all other large ships

but I will make it my job for the entire patch to bully capitals

to fuel the fire on spectrum

And I am all here for that scenario

[humble anvil]

No bills over the weekends

No builds over the weekend

I guess CIG is not crunching before the holiday

No someone's definitely crunching

Lol

[midnight crypt]

There is someone definitely working on to make the patch completely unplayable before they go on their break per so their tradition

[humble anvil]

Xd

[jade reef]

Based CIG

Forcing gamers to leave their basement and take a shower for Christmas because they break the game

[azure fulcrum]

they were kinda hinting at it on citizencon where they told us to touch grass by mentioning it 100x times in the genesis demo

[jade reef]

Genesis
An ancient rite from a forgotten era

[lone bloom]

Also I may note, that the Perseus exterior has no gravity is kinda good, since it doesn't allow people to just stay there even while you're flying and trying to shoot open your doors unlike like on the Idris

[jade reef]

That's another interesting point of game design

It's kinda crazy how an smg can just shoot open the bulkhead door on a capital class warship

I'm sure hacking gameplay will change that but lmao

[steel thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1253864297507848280/1390908904896069692/caption.gif

[lone bloom]

Like... hacking would be in the near future

[round zodiac]

cant wait for hte hack beam

[tawny fern]

Honestly

Im pretty disheartened with cig’s vision of engineering

Ai crews cant come soon enough

Or just stick with light/stealth fighters and never have to worry about getting hit

[midnight crypt]

My idris will be a full mining ship, gonna have shit ton of Drake ore pods with the golem, and be mining like that til the arrastra comes out

[humble anvil]

Remember when we thought the Perseus would be a really good ship

[coarse cloud]

those were the good days

the days we thought we would get a simmilar to OC ship

[azure fulcrum]

Mini star destroyer 😭

[lone bloom]

Made out of paper

[jade reef]

Have they really not backed down on engineering?

Surely there's been a patch or something to make the numbers less crazy or at least some acknowledgement it's not sustainable in it's current state

Like I'm ok with solo light fighters being really good again I guess but it kind of makes engineering a useless update

[lone bloom]

wdym "again"

They never were not good

And no they did not backed down at all yet

[humble anvil]

xd

[jade reef]

Waiting for the concierge fighter bundle

[humble anvil]

perseus buff wehen

[lone bloom]

Rustle so devasted by the state of 4.5 that he sits the entire time in Roblox

[humble anvil]

man im trying to get this 0.1% drop

[lone bloom]

What drop lol

[humble anvil]

some stupid

[lone bloom]

So you freed yourself from gacha games just to Fell for something like that now

[humble anvil]

im going to go play arknight endfield when it releases

[lone bloom]

Satisfactory with anime

[humble anvil]

pretty much that's what it is

'the factory must grow'

is the saying

gonna do a f2p ish build run through only use the characters they give me

[lone bloom]

I prefer playing the original

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-gif-23142535

[azure fulcrum]

wow working full gameplayloops imagine that

[lone bloom]

Can we please get first at least one full working gameplay loop in the first place? xd

[humble anvil]

Heh

[lone bloom]

Well idk if its a Perseus bug again

but if the powerplant goes critical and says destruction in XX seconds you cant repair it back up it won't stop the countdown

or better said you can repair it, but it still explodes lol

[midnight crypt]

Why all ships need physical components so you just yeet it out of the ship and put a new one in

[lone bloom]

got the feeling not even that will stop the critical mode tho

since it just ignores what you do with the components

But either way- won't work, since majority of ships with S3 comps aren't build that you could manually replace them...

since the S3 comps are too big for most doors

I think Percy is one of the only ships where it would technically work since it only has blast doors from cargo to engineer bay which are larger than average doors, but imagine doing it on a Hull C

[midnight crypt]

They should just remove the hard kill entirely or at least have a very small chance of hard kill just so you can board ships and take them out before they get stuff up and running again

[lone bloom]

I thought that was what they wanted in the first place ngl

and just hardkill if you use extreme excessive force

[humble anvil]

You have to pull the powerplant out to avoid critical explosion

Deadass

Can't repair it

[lone bloom]

but doesn't work on ships with S3 comps

thats like a fucking huge disadvantage lmao

[midnight crypt]

Or S4

[lone bloom]

i mean obviously S4 not

[midnight crypt]

😄

[lone bloom]

they're bespoke capital comps

[lone bloom]

well you can

[humble anvil]

Bruh

[lone bloom]

it just won't change anything on the explosion thing

[humble anvil]

I forgot about that shit

Not being able to pull S3 out

[lone bloom]

It can hit 0% and you can repair it back up to 100%

[humble anvil]

WOWWWWA

[lone bloom]

but it won't stop the hard death counter

[humble anvil]

DUDE

[lone bloom]

even if you repair it to 100% xD

[humble anvil]

Lmaoooooooooo

[lone bloom]

was tested on a perseus btw*

Both Reactors 0% one got repaired back up to 55% the other one 20% and it still hard death exploded

Also, can we please talk about how bullshit this is - especially since its mostly only for laser cannons?

Lasers shouldn't be able to have a "spread" radius (far radius in that pic) at all

Like, its not like a tank shell that explodes and shoots shrapnells

like wtf?

Its how ballistics should work, not lasers

[midnight crypt]

They always had them backwards. Every time they make changes

4.5 I’m gonna be a pacifist and only do cargo and mining til they fix their combat

[humble anvil]

I told the CIG employee in my email

[lone bloom]

They even said over and over again, ballistics will be meant to be good against armor (before 4.5)

Now Ballistics are trash all over again

Because Lasers get everything ballistics were supposed to get

[midnight crypt]

I wonder if the handheld railgun can 2 shot a Perseus

[lone bloom]

does it pen shields?

[humble anvil]

They need an Armor durability modifier that reduces penetration values further

Or everything penetration wise needs cut back

Drastically

Except Ballistics

[humble anvil]

No

Not deep enough

[midnight crypt]

Damn

[humble anvil]

Need like 6 pen to hit the powerplant

But depends where yah hit

I geuss too

Soon as some armor comes off though, you're good for anything

[lone bloom]

somehow I got the feeling that doesn't matter

If that thing would matter, wouldn't be drake ships literal glass houses

no matter their armor stats?

Just taking the Ironclad (Assault) VS Perseus as example, both supposed to be heavy armored, if that thing would be true about the "not deep enough hitting" Ironclad surely will have less due to having less "thickness" between the interior and exterior hull no?

[humble anvil]

Idk all I know is shits cooked

[lone bloom]

Pretty sure its just an artifical stat that counts for any kind of "component" no matter where you hit

It aint gonna be like warthunder

otherwise drake ships or any ships that have interior near exterior would be forked

[humble anvil]

They gotta gameify

Because their ships are form over function

And not taken into account for this stuff

[lone bloom]

Thats why Im saying i don't think it matters from where you hit

but actually could just go and test that with percy, hitting from behind and checking how many shoot the powerplant takes

[humble anvil]

The one on the ass

[lone bloom]

and once shooting from above through the bridge down

pretty sure it will make no difference

gonna test it real quick

[humble anvil]

Wouldn't be surprised if the cone is bypassing Armor

[lone bloom]

that would explain why the armor looks like it aint doing shit XD

[humble anvil]

Like if you shoot at the bridge aiming at the powerplant

[lone bloom]

will just juse an Ares Ion again

[humble anvil]

Yeah

It's got decent values, if you want full pen distance

We'll need far range tho

Ares iron

That's the best

[lone bloom]

doing the test without shield

8 bullets from the back into the back powerplant without shields

well apparantly it does matter, 14 bullets from the top to back power plant

gonna test it from shooting from the very front aka penetration would have to travel through the whole ship

20 bullets from the front

but should it even be able to hit a component on the other side of the ship in the first place?

[minor field]

No

Don't worry we'll get maelstrom by 2030!

[midnight crypt]

In 3 days I can test on how nerffed is the idris m railgun is against the Perseus ~o~

[lone bloom]

funfact

Hammerhead powerplant takes 16 bullets

Double than the Perseus does

Guess medium armor > heavy armor

[lone bloom]

why 3 days

[humble anvil]

I wonder if Perseus

Armor

Straight up not working

[lone bloom]

I mean i can test it again

fron different angle

but so far hammerhead tanked more lol

[humble anvil]

Idk it's just very weird

I haven't tried ion against Hammerhead

I tried Perseus against everything but it has such high pen it doesn't matter lol

[lone bloom]

I mean we can go into call and I stream it

but so far HH tanked significantly more

[humble anvil]

I want to watch

Just shoot at the Powerplant

[midnight crypt]

I work on a boat and I get off in 3 days

I got a star link mini waiting for me at home so I wonder if my 16 yo laptop could run star citizen. Hmm

[jade reef]

hmmm... Can you throw a grenade into a powerplant?

Actually, I wanna see FPS weapons against the Percy, not like the anti ship ones, like the FS9 or something

But also kind of the railgun

[humble anvil]

Yes

You can shoot out components

You can punch it if you want

Set it on fire

[lone bloom]

So armor kinda does its job

but the HP are simply so low (or weapon damage too high) so armor just gets destroyed within seconds of fire, leaving your comps vurneable to everything

and since every ship has very low armor HP(except polaris and idris surprise surprise) armor does nothing pretty much

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-mcdo-gif-2417794774350452946

[lone bloom]

its like "look it can work - just not for you "

[jade reef]

uhhhh

right

this patch is gonna be some shit lol

[humble anvil]

Unless they last minute swing

Do one or the other

Whatever it is, it ain't working tho

Penetration values are too high for lasers

This cone nonsense is also too high

They already do extra damage to armor as they should but they shouldn't be penetrating to hull until Armor is gone

Armor so small value it's gone in 2 seconds

[midnight crypt]

“Laughs inside the idris”

[humble anvil]

The exception

I watch multiple ships walloping on that thing

It just flies away

We fight it for a good 10 minutes lol

Trying to pen the powerplant

Corsairs, ions, infernos

Light fighters

I ran through all s5 deadbolts in my Connie n even then it just kept going

It eventually caught fire

But it still persisted

[midnight crypt]

Still mostly soloable unless you got a swarm of enemies

[humble anvil]

Oh yeah solo Idris is still absolutely a thing

Pain in the butt but it's still the safest thing out there

If we get PDCs back too

[midnight crypt]

I won’t be doing much combat anyways, going on a cargo arch to get the good contracts ready for when we get the ironclad

[humble anvil]

We should get PDCs back but

[midnight crypt]

We got ballistic PDCs

Why I bought 6 MDCs to dupe the PDCs

[humble anvil]

Just need 1 but sure

[midnight crypt]

Also for base building defense

[humble anvil]

W

Massive W

[midnight crypt]

Which they’ll probably have buildings that have PDCs on them anyways so might be a waste of having MDCs

Also can’t go wrong with putting them on the kraken for some more firepower

[lone bloom]

Just that it aint works

It doesnt on a 890 either

[humble anvil]

Ye doesn't work lol

Think because the trucks aren't getting hit

But even then PDC don't fire on ships anymore

Love they advertise shooting M2 n shit, fighters flying by

And they don't anymore in next patch

[lone bloom]

They do fire if the target is Red, but just not while being on a ship

[humble anvil]

Ah I keep forgetting that it's tracking wrong because arena commander is buggy shit

[midnight crypt]

They only shoot red targets. Alway been like that. So if I’m in my kraken and they hit my kraken, all PDCs should shoot that target. Before they fixed it, PDCs would shoot at party members and even yourself if you turned red for shooting someone. Had PDCs shoot me in my MTC before because I was killing NPCs at a bunker

[tawny fern]

must be nice having a mobile indestructible base

[midnight crypt]

I can’t wait for this javelin

Watch it have x10 the health and armor of the idris

[errant ice]

No they will just make it so it is literally unkillable

[midnight crypt]

Then the battle cruiser comes along and it will have S20 dual railgun that is also pilot controlled with PDCs that are size 5

[errant ice]

and the only thing which can dream of killing it

is another battlecruiser

[humble anvil]

Maybe one day the perseus will be good

If they gave it the appropriate cone for its size

I would say it would be very good, so good in fact

You guys see the mole mining ship is a better capital killer than the Perseus

[humble anvil]

@lone bloom CIG sees it, getting the same thing

Tweaking what they can

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

The s3 components

[lone bloom]

But what about the armor

[azure fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/ka58F-98jmY?si=N0Rposff_onAkABn

[humble anvil]

Cone is bad

Needs decreased

10 fold

[tawny fern]

cig doesnt know how to balance multicrew

light fighter good

[agile kayak]

I'm sure 85% of ships not being designed around the cone-pen wont have an impact on their viability.

[humble anvil]

See how this patch is

We're either fucked

Or fucked

[tawny fern]

super fucked

just wait for perseus fighter variant

[humble anvil]

Could you imagine an augmented Perseus with more turrets

It's not even big turrets

Like they take the the dual size 8 out and put like quad size 5

And they add another turret somewhere

[lone bloom]

would look ugly as freek tho

Greymarket Percy be like

[tawny fern]

the clipper is advertised as a solo player's multipurpose ship

the moment it starts taking fire, all 3 levels catch fire in a maze of components all over the place

"solo"

[humble anvil]

yea

those starter ships are not the way to go

for solo players

shit catches on fire, etc

[midnight crypt]

Idris is the perfect solo starter ships since it’s almost impossible to catch fire and you don’t have to worry about exploding while going too fast into the station or asteroids

[round zodiac]

solo ships with interiors just became a 'kill before you die' approach while everything inside burns down. then hope you put the fires out before you also lose

[lone bloom]

And thats only because Idris appears to be the only ship with valid armor lmao

[tawny fern]

and a selection of incredibly powerful pilot controlled guns

medical facilities

massive storage

its literally your own personal station

with a giant gun

that cant die

idris players are just playing god in a sandbox of ants

[humble anvil]

quitting until they cook game a bit lol

basically quitting*

should have a gacha game to play next month ish

[tawny fern]

https://youtu.be/KOx_oBydL98?si=ijYQNEpg61_GxJS-&t=468

timestamp

[humble anvil]

yerp

[tawny fern]

lmao

[humble anvil]

gay little light fighters can fuck off

but clearly

CLEARRRLY

this shit only encourages more solo gameplay

fly ares ion

easiest wins

[tawny fern]

single seater ✅
no interior ✅
deals insane damage ✅

[round zodiac]

it hsould have been a charged shot

semi automatic ship

[tawny fern]

Thats how it used to be right?

[round zodiac]

it used to have a longer wind up and cooldown, but people complained it woudl one-hit things

so they made it less laser cannon, more pulse laser

[lone bloom]

Meanwhile the Ion onehitting starters and fighters

[round zodiac]

yea, it was even punchier in the PTU before it came out

what we have now is after it became more rapid fire

[azure fulcrum]

U either buy idris solo daily driver/light fighter or get fucked bscly

[round zodiac]

really should get 1aUEC deposit back

[tawny fern]

i love that

[azure fulcrum]

I have to agree 100% with everything he says CIG is delusional there is no hope for multicrew or engineering

the small sliver I hope I had faded with 4.5

[tawny fern]

the part where the captain, pilot, and engineer have to communicate together was so good

the pilot IS the captain

who spends thousands of dollars to get cucked out of flying his own ship

[azure fulcrum]

yeah...

glad I didn't spend thousands of dollars on this game at least

[tawny fern]

how convenient for cig to drop 4.5 engineering right after IAE sales lmao

[azure fulcrum]

wish armor would be the jesus tech that smashed all the gay light fighters away but no lol

the light fighter bukakke never ends

😩

[minor field]

[humble anvil]

did they fix it?

the round richoeting effect is really cool

lol fuck no

didnt fix shit

[minor field]

Lmfao

The angled armor doing literally nothing is so sad

Perseus should be a ricochet machine with its design

[azure fulcrum]

whats even sadder it's gonna take at least another 5 years if they decided to do angled armor but we all know that's probably too complicated for them and because current ships are not designed with armor angles (perseus being the exception really) is not going to happen anyways

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1439728385927417866/3dgifmaker76463.gif

thorsten told us more engineering features are coming but didn't want to "spoil the surprise" or "didn't want to scare people" he said something down those lines

[tawny fern]

congratulations

you stuck with the better ship

[minor field]

Surely they'll fix my boy pers

[tawny fern]

[tawny fern]

i wonder how many people got that perseus --> polaris ccu

[humble anvil]

the state of perseus and star citizen

has me playing roblox

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-rocket-raccoon-guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-galaxy-gif-2861839468019202735

[round zodiac]

hwo do i tear off the PDC from a MDC?

[humble anvil]

unlock exterior

cant unlock ports

[steel thistle]

“engineering” is the worst thing they could’ve ever done

it’s not even engineering it’s just repairing and fire fighting

just another time and money sink

ships die in 2 power plant shots

nobody is doing this shit man

the game is already a massive time and money sink

now when your ship is damage you have to run off and point a beam at a component

why bother just backspace and claim the ship again icl

[steel thistle]

it’s not fun it’s just a time waste

go buy spare components, fuses

for 10-30 minutes

[humble anvil]

CIG just making players quit

[steel thistle]

then go hold your beam on the component

because it’s fun

[steel thistle]

makes it worse every update

there’s another game that does it too but i can’t remember which one

OH

yea i remember which one

[steel thistle]

when the contracts are 30k each and the components are like 100k

for 1 generator

then house everything in your ship that gets 2 shot by a fighter

to lose it all can’t claim it back

gg

it already takes 10 mins to travel somewhere

they just adding more time

to it

even if they fix armour and components exploding destroying the whole ship

[humble anvil]

oh trust dude im with you lol

when arknight endfields comes out im retiring from SC for a good year

[steel thistle]

it’ll still be just unfun to beam and go buy more components at the start of every run

and if they actually go with DOASM

that’s another thing

that kills the fun

people will say oh it’s a space sim it’s supposed to be realistic!!!

it’s getting further and further from that with everything they add

it’s arcadey

[azure fulcrum]

lol that's what it is nothing more than another tedious timesink they're not making a game they're making a seconlife LARP

[steel thistle]

they’re adding sliding and beam repairing and (swapping components which would never happen)

[azure fulcrum]

timesinks on top of timesinks

[steel thistle]

don’t forget the heat sink scan thing

where you scan people on your fps HUD in sq42

idk if that’ll come to SC

it’s cool but arcadey

crafting is arcadey

base building is arcadey

[steel thistle]

yep

they have done some things right tho

like make us spawn in our hangars

that’s amazing

and if they make shops/vendor kiosks in hangars too

that’ll also be amazing

[azure fulcrum]

every so called gameplayloop besides combat always involves a beam

[steel thistle]

but it’s literally life 2.0

[azure fulcrum]

its so boring

[steel thistle]

we have jobs and lives bro

[steel thistle]

even combat now LOL

volt weapons

[azure fulcrum]

dude most of the time that doesn't even work I spawn in the hab anyways

be it station or landing zone

[steel thistle]

oh usually works for me unless i died

[azure fulcrum]

was the case last patch and this patch as well for me

[azure fulcrum]

ohhh right lmao

[steel thistle]

changing fuses i can’t wait to spend my evening after cooking, doing dishes taken the bins out and finished tax accounting 😭🙏🏻

[azure fulcrum]

I don't have a live but I am NPC cattle wage slave so don't even have time to grind Auec nowadays (thank you rustle for the 100m xDD)

[steel thistle]

don’t forget waiting for the train to get to the spaceport

after going to buy said fuses

then 10-20 mins to get to my mission

[azure fulcrum]

oh no taxes FUCK

[steel thistle]

5 mins of mission

[steel thistle]

then QT again

[steel thistle]

?

[steel thistle]

LOL

[azure fulcrum]

you reminded me of taxes 😭

[steel thistle]

yeah

sorry

wait until SC has taxes too

insurance reclaims

no/real life simulator

[azure fulcrum]

it will have just wait

it already taxes you when you transfer money to another player

everything gonna be taxed

[steel thistle]

yes it will

and the crafting tiers is very stupid too

it should just be 1 item 1 tier

ts turning into ark survival evolved but in space

without taming

omg rust in space 😭

fym this guy outflew me because he has a tier 5 gladius and mine is tier 2

this ain’t world of tanks 😭

[azure fulcrum]

lol I have zero hope for crafting

[azure fulcrum]

how is it that with every new feature the game becomes less enjoyable lol

[steel thistle]

that’s what i’m saying

it gets worse every update

more time wasted

more grind more silly features

[azure fulcrum]

for me I think it started to go downhill with the kleschner prison system and the armastice zones? what patch was that?

[steel thistle]

idek

3.2 probably 😭

[azure fulcrum]

Alpha 3.11 (October 2020)

ok so around the plandemic things started to get really fucked

that sounds about right

[steel thistle]

oh yeah 3.11

[steel thistle]

idk i think that was a decent change but then again

[round zodiac]

saw the Vanoss video on that. looks odd

ah that didnt scroll

[azure fulcrum]

when they introduced wikelo it really shocked me too

[steel thistle]

piracy is punished

[minor field]

Bruh wtf are the devs doing

[steel thistle]

that’s awful an awful time sink on its own WITHOUT the travel, fuse buying and replacing bs

[azure fulcrum]

I prefer padramming era it was a tradeoff but at least you had decent PvP back then jumptown and such

[steel thistle]

yeah

[minor field]

They're adjusting random shit and not addressing the problem

[steel thistle]

adding random shit too

[azure fulcrum]

it's some mobile game grind shit

[steel thistle]

sad cuz they make cool ships

but the systems for them are becoming bad

[azure fulcrum]

completely ignoring the most upvoted feedback

[steel thistle]

medgel don’t forget medgel

that’s expensive

[minor field]

Have they still not officially commented on all the critique and complaints?

[azure fulcrum]

yeah another timesink

[steel thistle]

which would be a good system

if it wasn’t so expensive vs contract rewards

and

[azure fulcrum]

no lol

[steel thistle]

we didn’t die to some silly phasing through the ship bug all the time or smth

cuz now you have to go back to your primary residence

if you don’t have medgel

which is hard to afford

because the contracts pay very badly

[minor field]

[steel thistle]

but oh well

just reclaim i guess

until they add the insurance costs update

yippeee

remember when they tried to make torps not restock when you reclaimed

that was awful

nobody has 16mil for a polaris restock

[steel thistle]

like you’d reclaim with 0 torps even if you had 16 left before it blew

so silly

[worthy pulsar]

when are we getting new paints just got my perseus

[steel thistle]

soon you’ll probs have to manually load them too 😛😛

[steel thistle]

the current paints are good ngl flintlock is awesome

the IAE exclusive one was cool too

[azure fulcrum]

people argue that 3.0 days were worse because of stability and bugs but I think a lot of bugs were funny and I enjoyed the game a lot more back then

[worthy pulsar]

flintlock was my big thought rn

[steel thistle]

heron the white and gold marble is alr

[worthy pulsar]

got it on buyback not a fan tho

[steel thistle]

yea i dont like it that much but its top 3 paints i think

[azure fulcrum]

the bugs we have now are basically still the same lets get real the mobiglass and markers not working

[steel thistle]

flintlock only good one fr

[worthy pulsar]

thundercloud acc looks so good

compared to the rest

[steel thistle]

yes that’s the worst bug

[azure fulcrum]

resilient is the only one for me for now

[steel thistle]

i just want to use these cool ships

but they do make them harder and harder to use all the time

even with the numbers

it still takes ages to get 10 people in one place

let alone stock it too

and stand there holding Mouse click

to repair

so dead

don’t forget to go buy your RMC containers this patch guys

that’s what crafting should be used for

armour guns and items

[azure fulcrum]

oh 3.24 was klescher

[steel thistle]

none of that silly tier stuff

like tier 5 gladius

it’s becoming world of tanks

mixed with rust

😭

[azure fulcrum]

😭

[steel thistle]

just in space

[round zodiac]

no way 3.24 was klescher, wasnyt 3.18 the etntitlement processing and Vulture update?

and prison is way older than that

[steel thistle]

no klescher is ancient fr

it was atleast before 3.17

[azure fulcrum]

oh you might be right

[steel thistle]

3.9

2020

[round zodiac]

why not just check the wiki

instead of human squishy brains

[azure fulcrum]

3.9.0 probably

[round zodiac]

3.9 was the addtion

[azure fulcrum]

oh fuck yes damn its old

I'm getting senile

[steel thistle]

😭

[round zodiac]

i played before we had planets

[steel thistle]

i think i started 3.17 or 3.16 but idk when i started following the game

[round zodiac]

Port Olisar only, warped to a satellite repair mission and back

[minor field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940733995333869688/1067941547557007551/furry_irl-10kvqde.gif

perseus owners be like

[round zodiac]

why jsut drop irrelevent gif as a hello

i do not understand

[azure fulcrum]

I think our ONLY hope for star citizen to succeed is when Croberto goes into retirement and someone else takes over

[round zodiac]

give that rivers guy the lead

[steel thistle]

even if he retires

[round zodiac]

Crobert lives to liek 124 in the lore

[steel thistle]

he will still see his dream through

[azure fulcrum]

he's 57 years old sooo...

maybe in another 10 years?

[steel thistle]

he won’t retire from SC

[round zodiac]

https://starcitizen.tools/Chris_Roberts_(lore)

[steel thistle]

he probably loves it like a hobby

[azure fulcrum]

.<

he's probably gonna continue until he dies

[steel thistle]

likely until he can’t physically go anymore

he could retire rn if he wanted

[azure fulcrum]

wtf 2108

[round zodiac]

in his hospital bed raving about dynamic server meshing

[azure fulcrum]

we're so screwed

[round zodiac]

hes gonna invent medgel for real

[steel thistle]

scrap engineering scrap DOASM if they haven’t already

buff contract pays

add more mission variety fix markers and allow custom markers and bookmarks job done

[azure fulcrum]

scrap everything and rewind back to 3.0 features then start over lol

[round zodiac]

OSSC

[steel thistle]

world events like vanduul incursions in nyx that affect medgel and ammo prices so the players have to join together to complete

boom

[round zodiac]

2017citizen

[steel thistle]

GOTY

and it’s not even out

sorted

[azure fulcrum]

I remember when actually trading commodities was still a thing and smuggling drugs was profitable

man we had a working game back then I don't care what people say

working flight model

jumptown days

[steel thistle]

instead they’re making rock generation tech

and forests

[minor field]

At this rate 2026 is gonna be the one of the worst years for SC if this engineering shit gets pushed.. Especially if the range & damage changes come back along with it

[round zodiac]

Hover Mode

well they had a record funding year by like 10%. so they can budget some realignment

[azure fulcrum]

I don't think its going to get better it's been going downhill for 5 years now lol

[minor field]

[azure fulcrum]

there's nothing that they've done that inspires any kind of confidence

[round zodiac]

theyve been content oriented for too long. not enough systems focused

they got BuildingBlocks and Static Server Meshing done adn now they think they can just run events and add gameplay

[azure fulcrum]

pardon me but the content is absolute garbage the mission descriptions and story are such slop

[steel thistle]

true true they’ve added enough for now we don’t need events every patch

[azure fulcrum]

bring box from a to b

kill this that

[minor field]

Honestly they should just rotate previously run events while adding new systems and tech

[round zodiac]

handheld crate mission is gone, 890boarding in progress is gone, still cant decorate our hangers without thigns falling apart

[steel thistle]

“guys check out this news broadcast, the head hunters randomly killed the FFs and that story is over never to be heard of again”

😭😭

should’ve been a player event to see which faction dies

[round zodiac]

still no NPC ship flight

[steel thistle]

not a random news feed

[azure fulcrum]

[round zodiac]

story evolved offscreen like Hulk

[azure fulcrum]

disco lando being the newscaster lmao

it was so lame lol

[round zodiac]

Somehow, Palpatine returned level of storytellign

[steel thistle]

idk even a kill the CFP, FF, HH VIP mission with the leaders all being flown around in small fleets and 3 diff contracts then whoever kills the VIP first in the world decides which faction crumbles

but they could’ve done

like the progress bar thing they did for the last event

[round zodiac]

there was supposed to be voting for NPC (OR PLAYER) imperators, too

[steel thistle]

get SCU for the factions or smth i can’t remember

[round zodiac]

Crobert said some SHIT pre2020

grim hex race track was supposed to have betting on players

[azure fulcrum]

I think that happened once

[steel thistle]

could’ve been some awesome defence/attack contract fleet battles in servers

until a VIP dies

[round zodiac]

or give the players a choice of attacking each faction leader and count how many each one is done to see what the majority of players favoured and make that the canon

[azure fulcrum]

o the imperator NPC election apparently they serve a 10 year term so 5 more years until next election

[steel thistle]

even if you ran the same kill the officer/general contract 30 times and didn’t give them a name or face and had it contribute to a progress bar of faction instability would’ve been better than just dissolving them in a side thing during the ASD story

[steel thistle]

YEAH LIKE

[steel thistle]

THIS

the side that has the most or least % dissolves because all their leadership is dead

like faction stability % or instability %

either way they do it

100% being the best or worst doesn’t matter

makes sense 100% being their stability and 0% meaning they have no leadership left

type shenanigans

call it an organisation instability or stability meter

i probably went up the most messages i’ve been up in months from that rant icl

don’t speak in here much anymore

they just be releasing garbage like engineering that makes me not want to play

[azure fulcrum]

none of the events ever mattered it didn't impact anything EXCEPT for the resource drive one where you get a 5% discount or something for hurston which kinda breaks the economy

[steel thistle]

my 3 person team doesn’t have enough people or resources to do anything

so why bother

[azure fulcrum]

its unplayable, not worth my time

[steel thistle]

i mean even with 6 still not the best

[steel thistle]

it’s definitely not worth the time, i’d say it’s bare minimum surface level playable

but it somehow gets worse instead of better

[azure fulcrum]

we're back to tech demo

[steel thistle]

like it was enjoyable before engineering

and it was getting betterish

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I'm glad I had a small window of opportunity to play before they broke it 2 patches ago

[steel thistle]

some things you go :/ at like medgel but it wasn’t a huge deal

[steel thistle]

LOL yeah

percy in 4.4 was fun

now it’s 2 shot so

might as well stay in hangar

and roleplay or smth idk

i be on roblox fr 💯

or warframe

or for honor

or anything

even destiny 💔💔

[azure fulcrum]

I'm gonna play some random ass roguelite indie games

[steel thistle]

space marine 2 🔥🔥🔥

[gritty finch]

I was going to ask if the Perseus was good this patch since I got one at IAE and didn't have time to play around with it but I guess the answer is no?

[azure fulcrum]

some braindead slop that is still more entertaining than star shitizen

[steel thistle]

no not rn

[azure fulcrum]

already finished that one a few months ago heh

[steel thistle]

armour has gutted it

[steel thistle]

me too but they just dropped an update

[azure fulcrum]

.>

[gritty finch]

Armor?

[steel thistle]

i don’t like this guy but

https://youtu.be/Mmbbb4IFdgo?si=Tclb2VLKRhcF1TYB

watch that

percy is at 19 mins

[gritty finch]

I don't have a 23 minute attention span, I'll just take your word for it.

[steel thistle]

skip to 19 mins

[gritty finch]

I trust you, it's okay

[azure fulcrum]

simply because CIG doesn't know how to make armor work, not only is it bugged out but the armor is way too little and it always penetrates with a giant blast cone hitting all your components at once

[gritty finch]

Huh

I mean is it an issue in PvE?

[azure fulcrum]

simply put it only takes a few shots to destroy any ship with exception of idris maybe

[steel thistle]

essentially if you have a big ship someone can shoot your power plant and destroy the whole ship in a couple shots

from a fighter

[steel thistle]

yeah if the AI hits you by accident in a power plant

[azure fulcrum]

[steel thistle]

you just die

like not soft death

straight explode

we’re going backwards rn

[gritty finch]

..okay I don't keep up with this game a lot but isn't armor supposed to completely stop the small guns from penetrating?

[steel thistle]

soft death would be not as bad because atleast with engineering you can repair!

!74 no

[steel thistle]

yeah it is LOL

they did it wrong

the armour values are too small

and damage is dealt in a cone

which means all components get hit at once

[azure fulcrum]

so its been over a week this shitshow hit PTU

[steel thistle]

which means catastrophic boom

[azure fulcrum]

and they still haven't changed anything meaningful

[steel thistle]

still haven’t fixed it 😭

you can play percy in live happy as anything

until they release this awful patch

[azure fulcrum]

they just made it worse with every change lol

[gritty finch]

So everything is a high explosive squash head and your ship is made from bamboo, got it.

[steel thistle]

because it’s still 4.4 rn

[gritty finch]

Oh wait, so it is fine in live?

[steel thistle]

yes

[steel thistle]

yes enjoy it while you can

for a couple weeks

unless they fix it which they SHOULD

[azure fulcrum]

basically everything but idris lol

[gritty finch]

Oh nice, I'll get my group together before they bork it I guess

[steel thistle]

because i don’t think they ever intended for a percy to be 3 hit by a gladius

[azure fulcrum]

because P2W

[steel thistle]

but idk

they might just not do it and leave it as is and say it’s an alpha it’s fine

[solid anvil]

holy shit

[steel thistle]

LOL

[azure fulcrum]

and the spectrum gremlins think this is fine and defend it

[steel thistle]

Idris 2mil which is right

[gritty finch]

Okay how does a pleasure yacht have more armor than a heavy gunboat made before shields were invented? Am I missing something? And how is a cargo ship with bombs under it remotely close to the armor of a military explorer?

[steel thistle]

polaris should be 1mil and percy should be 500k etc

[gritty finch]

Honestly the most confusing part is the A2 being close to the Carrack at all. Lmao.

[steel thistle]

i guess it’s because said yacht is a capital size big thing idk

[solid anvil]

i feel like itll all change still but that pic is funny lol, idris a titan amongst men

[steel thistle]

why is the a2 less than the carrack 😭

oh dear

[azure fulcrum]

fricking raft cargo hauler has DOUBLE the armor of the "Heavily armored" Dropship the Asgard

[gritty finch]

Wait no, the MOLE is the same as Paladin?

[azure fulcrum]

yeah..........

[steel thistle]

gang i’ll just be in my idris icl

[jade reef]

Percy counters A2
Gnet flies the A2
CIG is Gnet
CIG has to nerf Percy into irrelevance

[steel thistle]

still soloing it

who gonna stop me

[gritty finch]

They used AI to make these and I will bet anything on that.

[azure fulcrum]

I think AI would have made better choices

[azure fulcrum]

I think they just grab a chicken and let it put in values in the XML

[gritty finch]

I mean I thought the Carrack was the military explorer? It would make way more sense for Carrack to be way over A2

[azure fulcrum]

or like a voodoo witchdoctor throwing bones on the keyboard and slaughtering a chicken or something

[azure fulcrum]

carrack was supposed to be heavy armored too it had a armored cockpit glass in concept lol

[gritty finch]

The Apollo Triage is more armored than the Valkyrie and Asgard. What.

600i has more than the Tac. What.

Okay I'm gonna stop looking at that, it's not good for my health.

[azure fulcrum]

look redeemer and the connie andromeda has less armor than terrapin

because....

its balanced

hull A lmao

[steel thistle]

i had like all the achievements and armour pieces every weapon and class maxed, all ordeals done then they dropped prestiging which i finished again then siege mode which i got everything but 1 ugly helmet cuz i couldn’t beat wave 15 hard i kept getting level 2s looking for XP thinking “oh it says 26k XP potential must be good for levelling” so that was brilliant

now they’ve released a dante blood angels skin, a new operation in space/battlebarge and tyranid flying boss (2 of them omg) and they dropped heroic weapons which give unique perks and stats they’re kinda weird and stratagems which are absolute with 2 terminus now but with modifiers that make it 100x harder that its actual suffering sometimes

there’s heroic armour pieces too for fashion and they added xenophase blade with tech marine coming in an update or two

[gritty finch]

I mean Redeemer having little armor makes sense, because I think it's supposed to be very light armor and very heavy shielding

[steel thistle]

so i gotta hop back on but idk if i cba to keep 100% every update

might just play it casual and get the stuff i want cuz the game is so draining

especially tryna do absolute 24/7

lethal is fun absolute and hard stratagems/siege are not

[gritty finch]

But yeah whoever made this clearly is not a CIG employee, I'm guessing this is AI slop or somebody's kid.

[steel thistle]

yes and they did just buff it’s turning kinda recently

[azure fulcrum]

CIG employees are basically kids, fresh out of college zero experience

[steel thistle]

but it still needs more than the terrapin

LOL

[steel thistle]

this is true

which tbf is good because kids do need a first job and some experience

but uh

[azure fulcrum]

all the veteran ones that were worth a damn got poached

[steel thistle]

it’s probs how they cheap out on expenses

there’s like no old or senior devs

you can tell they all care and have passion but

[gritty finch]

I mean it's not like CIG could pay them enough to keep them, they're a small company.

[azure fulcrum]

lol

[steel thistle]

idk if you’re rage baiting or not

[azure fulcrum]

small indie studio

[gritty finch]

It's not like they've made almost a billion dollars.

[steel thistle]

they need leadership too

[gritty finch]

Give this company and Mr. Chris a break.

[steel thistle]

and chris doesn’t exactly seem like the best at management sometimes

or deadlines

just a bit chaotic

[azure fulcrum]

he never was

[steel thistle]

he’s more like if your best pal was your boss

[azure fulcrum]

"make that pixel green not blue"

[gritty finch]

I'm being as genuine as possible. Look, this is not a company that has made like 40 million last month. They're poor.

[azure fulcrum]

sorry my inner sunkcost fallacy and binky ATX is coming out

[steel thistle]

man i want a new pc, idris T kit, ironclad assault and 2 lego sets why is life so expensive

[azure fulcrum]

its been a rough couple of weeks

[steel thistle]

oh and a car repair that’s so minor but so expensive like why

[azure fulcrum]

I do car repairs myself now because everything gotten so expensive lol

[steel thistle]

don’t worry SC is getting boycotted because i wouldn’t be able to use anything anyway since engineering

[gritty finch]

Cost of skilled labor.

[steel thistle]

650 pounds to change the track rod rubber socks

cuz they have a little crack

cba twin

[azure fulcrum]

I had to pay 200 euros because they had to solder a single wire to my alternator

that was the final straw that broke the donkey back

[steel thistle]

i would but it’s under warranty so it’ll get voided and i’d probs break smth even if it wasn’t

[azure fulcrum]

ooof yeah....

[azure fulcrum]

how old is ur car even?

[steel thistle]

5 years

[azure fulcrum]

bruh wtf

[gritty finch]

Well yeah if you have the skills to do that work it would seem stupid that they're charging that much for it, but for someone like me I do not want to work on anything other than the wiper fluid of a car, because there's a good chance I'll do more harm than good. So I'm paying them to do more good than harm.

[steel thistle]

yur

[gritty finch]

Regardless 200 euros sounds like too much for that anyway, my point is it will cost more than the wire and the 5 minutes it takes for them to do the soldering.

[steel thistle]

i’d definitely cause a road side recovery

[azure fulcrum]

to replace my brakepads and rotors in front was 400 euros, so I was like hell nah I'll just do it myself. It wasn't that hard

some jobs are easy

[gritty finch]

Yeah see I'd never touch the brake pads on my car. Regardless of how "easy" it might be.

[azure fulcrum]

but a track rod you'd have to disassemble a lot more stuff to get to it

[steel thistle]

same i’d probs manage to make them the accelerator pads somehow

[gritty finch]

If I have to pick between 400 euros or 50 euros plus betting that I'll do a good install of what stops my car I'm choosing to give up the 400

[azure fulcrum]

just to take the brakepad off you take off the wheel and 2 screws of the caliper to and you can slide the brakepads out

I downloaded the workshop service manual lmao

1400 pages

[gritty finch]

I do DIY most of the repairs and things that I need, but I don't attempt anything on my car. If I die in that thing I want it to be somebody else's fault so my family can get paid big.

[steel thistle]

this looks terrifying

[azure fulcrum]

yeah understandable

[azure fulcrum]

scary shit

[steel thistle]

i wonder if i can even play SC rn

or if my pc explodes

it’s been black screening a lot recently

first it was just on space marine in the armoury

now it’s like 10mins-3 hours on roblox too so i have no idea

then when i try to use nvidia auto tune

it does it

[azure fulcrum]

hmm

[steel thistle]

once i signed into desktop it did it

i tried everything software wise

except reinstall windows

i think the GPU is dying

cuz it’s when the fans get loud

i put it on 100% fans thinking maybe it’s getting too hot somewhere after extended use and i gave it a clean

usage and temps are low still happens

[steel thistle]

and like 3 mins after 100% fans it black screened when idle

then it did it when i was watching netflix

now it hasn’t happened in ages but i haven’t tried to play any games so idk

sometimes it happens on sm2 randomly in match too or used when i played

but it happens more and more now

and even when doing nothing or low intensive stuff

[azure fulcrum]

yikes the timing is rlly bad cause GPU prices about to skyrocket

[steel thistle]

GPU is like 5 years old and second hand so it’s probs that

[steel thistle]

why 💔💔💔💔

what’s happening in gpu market

not again man 😭😭😭

[azure fulcrum]

because the AI companies are buying up all the RAM

[steel thistle]

when i built this PC they were massively high

then they went down ffs

[azure fulcrum]

and Nvidia no longer gives AIBs GPUs with VRAM

[steel thistle]

bro 😭

maybe i’ll go custom next time 😭

prebuilt i mean

cuz they get parts in bulk so it’s cheaper who knows

will have to work it out

i got a second hand 3080 it’s lasted me like 3 years probs had 2 years of use or mining before that who knows

that’s why it’s knackered

GPUs usually get about 3-5 years of use i think

got it in the GPU shortage

but yea tried everything software and drivers related even bios settings and update nothings worked

so it’s either GPU or PSU and i highly doubt it’s PSU

it’s a corsair gold 850w and they usually last 8-10 years

maybe a power cable but again i doubt it

it’s probs the preowned GPU LOL

saw this the other day wondering if i can make it myself for 2k

[azure fulcrum]

I guess so, I think my RTX 1070 was about 7 years old when I replaced it

[steel thistle]

i already got the win 11 licence

[azure fulcrum]

but I had to replace one of the fans because it died maybe 4 years in

[steel thistle]

and the PSU

[steel thistle]

oh yeah

maybe that’s what happened idk

[azure fulcrum]

my RTX 1070 was still running fine 7 years in

[steel thistle]

my pc is at the point tho if i get a new GPU i may as well get a whole new rig

it’ll need a new CPU

[azure fulcrum]

but thats the exception most of my other cards had a shorte lifespan

[steel thistle]

which needs a new mobo

which needs new ram

because it’s ddr5 now

[azure fulcrum]

RIP wallet

[steel thistle]

etc etc

[steel thistle]

yep

[steel thistle]

how much life like 5 year?

[azure fulcrum]

my PC build is from 2024

I intend to not upgrade for a long time lol

maybe the GPU in a few years

[steel thistle]

mines june 2022

[azure fulcrum]

yeah or even shorter 2-3 years

[steel thistle]

it’s done about 3 years i was hoping for 5-8

but

considering it had a second hand gpu

in the gpu shortage

it’s done well

consoles ain’t looking good either if the next ones are 1k

cuz they lowkey can’t do anything and don’t have any games compared to PC which has like all of them

[azure fulcrum]

yeah nothing is looking good rn lol

[steel thistle]

true

shall we just start the fallout games

because i cba anymore

[azure fulcrum]

xxDDD

[steel thistle]

and i’m 21 years in

we cooked 😭

too expensive

[azure fulcrum]

we cooked fr fr

[steel thistle]

yur

[humble anvil]

Chris Roberts did in 2108

[steel thistle]

are msi mobos good?

swear they were infamous

[azure fulcrum]

I have assrock rn its cheap it works but it's not great. If I had to buy another mobo I'd go with the higher end asus one prob

[steel thistle]

yea

[azure fulcrum]

I want the proart mobo

[steel thistle]

oh god

[azure fulcrum]

my current mobo

lol the usb ports

[steel thistle]

looks cool tho

[minor field]

Looks better than sc paints

[azure fulcrum]

it really does yeah

very unique

its anodized red color shifting

purpol

[humble anvil]

I have a MSI tomahawk elite I think on my 7950x3d

Cheapy boy

[azure fulcrum]

wait I know what you need

I'll hook you up

[steel thistle]

LOL

[azure fulcrum]

wtf

[azure fulcrum]

https://rog.asus.com/nl/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x870e-h-gaming-wifi7-hatsune-miku-edition/

https://rog.asus.com/event/ROGxHatsuneMiku/

it's only 140 more expensive than the regular board xDDD

thats really dumb lol

it comes pre-built only 5000$

[humble anvil]

Vehicles / Vehicle Components - PDT's targeting lags behind hostile targets missing the target (STARC-186176)

Fixed

Yippee

Hooray

PDTs are back on the menu for light fighters

[azure fulcrum]

so it was a bug >.>

damn

[humble anvil]

Get the ballistic PDTs out boys

Solo Perseus dinky binky

15000 Ammo

Gonna shred some ai ships

I need someone to go into the PTU and confirm PDTs are back to normal

[azure fulcrum]

hol up

did they just remove all the fuses?

o...

nvm only for the small single seaters

nerfff

[steel thistle]

who got an amd gpu

[humble anvil]

I dooo

[steel thistle]

does it have a replay/record feature

it does right

like nvidia replay capture or whatever it’s called

[humble anvil]

Yes

Has a record last x duration record

And a record

[steel thistle]

oh cool

good good

[humble anvil]

Idris untouched

Btw

Oh

It's s7 turret is so weak

Nvm

Perseus has it's -43% modifier still

-20% component damage

-15% ballistic DMG on Armor

[azure fulcrum]

ehhh hammerhead is still more tanky than percious. Unless they fixed the nose damage throughput bug or IDK

not sure why perseus dies earlier than hammerhead

[humble anvil]

I checked

Earlier

Nose is insta dead

[steel thistle]

because the devs are silly

[humble anvil]

Nose is acting like a vital

Idk why

Polaris issue too , rear neck zeroes the ship

Everything dies

[tawny fern]

lmao thats incredible

[humble anvil]

I'm happy to seemingly have the PDTs back

@lone bloom Dude can you go into the PTU and fly around in the PTUs PU

Not arena Commander and just double check that the PDTs are still attacking light fighters

Plzplz

I'm at work

[steel thistle]

man pinged his test guinea pig 😭😭

go test rn!!

[humble anvil]

Apparently still miss