Perseus Pals

[jade reef]

Eh my current favorite ship to fly is the wolf atm and my favorite ship in general is the STY

I can just shelf my Percy until they un-fuck ttk

[severe lynx]

why is that pipeline version slightly omitted

this is the one from spectrum
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-4-5-ptu-patch-notes-2

Weapon fire rate and ammo damage/speed/lifetime balance to bring them back to 4.4.0 levels. Slight reduction in armor health across all ships. Added health bar to show armor and critical part damage. Power generators can now be repaired to stop the core from going critical. Implement room visualizations on the engineering screen using render layer groups feature. Added status warnings for low power combined with other critical warnings. Further smoke visibility improvement polish.```

[lone bloom]

[jade reef]

Oh

Interesting

Thanks pipileine

This was completely unreadable on mobile mb

[lone bloom]

well I tried to resend the message but I wasn't allowed to

[jade reef]

Nothing about this indicates final version still

[lone bloom]

Not a valid argument tho

Nothing in SC - ever - indicates a final version

[jade reef]

They're probably messing around with damage numbers, I think given the extremely negative feedback this will be reverted especially if we're back to Ares oneshot territory

So I don't really see why it's a huge deal if it's subject to change? If we get a Christmas of light fighter meta again whatever lol, gives them more time to un-fuck the engineering UI while probably nobody uses it

[lone bloom]

not again

it always been light fighter meta

The issue now with that patch is that it would fully break multicrew ships

Before that they were only useless for pvp (most cases) with that patch they would be entirely useless for any kind of combat

Why would I use the Percy for ERT? If a Aurora would have better survivability

and can do similar damage

Or a Idris

[jade reef]

Which is why I don't believe this is going to hit live

They've rushed wave 3, which is crazy there's only been like a 20 hour turnover between wave 1 - 3

[lone bloom]

Engineering/Armor was supposed to kill the light fighter meta, instead we got so far only a "fuck all kind of large ships, long life the light fighter mafia"

[lone bloom]

If they went from w1 to w3 within the same patch circle, i doubt they would hesistate to go live with it

There were patches worse than this

and got pushed to live

[jade reef]

3.12 lol

[lone bloom]

3.12,3.18.(x), 4.0

saying they aren't going to Live with that is just pretty much:

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

Aslong the game is "playable" in terms of... being able to go past the menu, it isn't the worst patch they would've pushed to live

[jade reef]

I guess lol

Solo farming ERTs in a Wolf sounds pretty funny though

[lone bloom]

If they go live with that, pretty sure that won't be an issue lol

[jade reef]

Why didn't they just add engineering without messing with everything? The health and damage numbers were probably fine to test the idea

Especially if they're hell bent on getting the patch out for the holidays

[lone bloom]

Ngl they could've just implement engineering without armor, aka you have destroy the Hull HP first (of that specific area of that ship) and then you can pen/damage the components through it, ballistic having higher damagen against Hull and done

could've said the armor stuff comes later since obviously that is causing the most issues

[azure fulcrum]

People are in denial if they think CIG isnt going to make the worst possible choice

Or learn from their mistakes

Or listen to real feedback

[jade reef]

I have light fighters in my fleet ATM and due to my work schedule pretty much only ever play solo so I mean engineering being a let down would be disappointing but idrc if I just need to keep flying my light fighters for another few patches

[azure fulcrum]

Or not gaslight us

[lone bloom]

year of stability

[jade reef]

It's been a year of relative stability other than 4.0 lol

[lone bloom]

Watch 4.5 being the same level as 4.0

[azure fulcrum]

Its been the year of payability record ship and skin sales

[lone bloom]

Bis paints and bundle resells

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-spongebob-gif-16807794896076753543

While the GM cries in pain

[jade reef]

I'm glad they did the resale on the BiS paints and I hope they do it again next year

[lone bloom]

Yeah I don't mind that but still xD

[jade reef]

The GM is bad for the people that actually want to play the game, they should bring back the F7A and Raven as well

Nuke the GM

Most people on the GM don't even play the game, they just hoard limited time items to sell back and forth among themselves

Probably half or more of all Indris ever sold will never leave a hangar because it's just an investment piece to a scalper

[lone bloom]

Wait

you don't like NFT games?

[long gyro]

hmm

what's going on with my favourite group of copers

[jade reef]

REAL

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

Displeased with 4.5 so far

[severe lynx]

not gonna react until live hits with whatever

but it cant be as bad as the retaliator at least

[long gyro]

you seem perfectly sane as normal

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[long gyro]

Bounce me harder

Use me as a basketball in your perseus

Speaking of

Physical helmets next patch

[lone bloom]

[long gyro]

does that mean we get basketball-equivalents finally?

Which means we can use perseus pool table and basketball hoop?

[jade reef]

Oh my god when the pool table works I cannot wait to see how jank it is

[long gyro]

same in startac

[long gyro]

I think for now we will have to use helmets/rubbish and s-38s or something

Bc you can shoot things to make them move

[tough goblet]

Last seen in PTU 4.5.0.10825836

[humble anvil]

LOL

[severe lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3yaTc0Aq1Y

[lone bloom]

"We're approaching a good baseline for the release" 9:50

They probably inhaled a bit too much from the new fire hazard

[long gyro]

Lmao

[lone bloom]

TTK is like... 5 seconds

"good baseline"

We're in for a bad time

[long gyro]

Next couple patches are going to be rough ngl

[lone bloom]

I wonder if NPCs subtarget components

[humble anvil]

In PvE encounters ai will also target your ships components

This PTU patch will tell us what CIG is doing

[humble anvil]

CIG is a little confusing watching the patches

Lol

Wonder how the armor thread is doing

Not bad

[azure fulcrum]

Mental

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-heath-ledger-gif-8036215

[lone bloom]

Well if that patch goes Live like that all we have to do is just to get ourselfes some wolfes

and go hunt polarises and Idrises consistently

If the whales start to cry CIG gonna fix it

[azure fulcrum]

Hmmm or some fighter that can carry s4 omniskies

[lone bloom]

F7A

[azure fulcrum]

Mx i guess lol

[lone bloom]

One with a mantis, and 2 or more other with fighters

and we gonna camp at OM points

And exclusively gonna hunt capitals

[tawny fern]

We love galaxy

We love galaxy

Give galaxy missile module so i can blast these fools

Just a giant brick of missiles

[humble anvil]

I'll be available for patch funnies with Perseus again

[tawny fern]

Didnt

Who was it that said 1 s3 missile killed a perseus

Thats truly legendary

[lone bloom]

selfaware

[lone bloom]

Just for it to get 3 shooted by a Ion again

[humble anvil]

Yeah

You know I don't understand CIG

All these ships in the game have no armor

I'm sorry let me back up

They have no shields

And they give laser cannons ridiculous damage and pretty good penetration

They also give it good speed good range

[lone bloom]

"Why would anyone use ballistics"

[humble anvil]

Why would you ever want to use ballistic gotlings first of all have no penetration value whatsoever

And ballistic cannons that are slow as f****** s***

Apparently get absorbed by armor

[lone bloom]

Its just funny that they originally said that Lasers were supposed to be shit against armor

And that Ballistics are meant for armor penetration / damage - and lasers for shields

[humble anvil]

Laser repeaters have no armor penetration value, And they're damaging comparison to cannons are s***

They have the lowest range

I just don't get it

Why is laser cannons not slower projectile farther range

Maybe less overall damage but good penetration

Laser repeaters fast projectile smaller range, baseline damage, or better damage. And hardly in it penetration

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-jared-huckaby-john-crewe-jalopy-gif-11143027487197092150

[humble anvil]

Why the f*** does Perseus take 30% more energy damage

And it takes a zero baseline extra damage of ballistics

[lone bloom]

"Heavy armored"

[humble anvil]

Why

Oh well lasers can evaporate armor

What armor

When the f****** laser cannons are going to penetrate Armor anyways

[lone bloom]

did you test btw how much damage the Ion does with one single bullet to the armor HP?

[humble anvil]

It was like 13 roundabout shots randomly and the components just died

I was just circling around the Perseus

And I probably missed a lot of them

I can load in here in a little bit I got to get my niece off the bus

And I will try to be more accurate when flying around, but so far the components are dying before the ship even does

[humble anvil]

i'll check 1 single bullet to the armor

but all i can do is %

[lone bloom]

Well with the current stats armor has a good chance to be just gone after a single bullet lol

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[humble anvil]

2 shots for a shield facing

lol

[tawny fern]

I thought the guns were reverted but health stays the same

So all weapons are doing way more damage than they should be

[lone bloom]

health got nerfed*

[tawny fern]

Also i swear i saw a screenshot of attrition 4’s having like 7km range

[humble anvil]

1 ion shot did 9% armor, and 6% to hull with 0 shield

[lone bloom]

and yet it oneshots components

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[lone bloom]

Welcome to the "higher ttk" according to CIG

19 seconds of just randomly shooting at it

[tawny fern]

Looks good to me ship it to live!

[lone bloom]

nvm not even 19 seconds its 13 seconds since 6 seconds are still inside of perseus l,mao

[humble anvil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1pebbbj/in_the_current_ptu_environment_10_shots_from_an/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[tawny fern]

I cant tell if

Ragebaiting or lolxd

Saying thats how ares ion should be is kinda

[azure fulcrum]

The RSI percious gets punched below its weightclass

soooooooooo

component wear is basically the same as the hunger and thirst system?

you have to drink/repair every 2-4 hours or you're dead?

nice one CIG

[desert gorge]

i mean lets hope they increase it bc otherwise its BS

sometimes it just aint possible to return in 2h

[azure fulcrum]

also component wear degredates your component performance don't forget

[humble anvil]

i think i'll just bckspace the ship at that point

[azure fulcrum]

so if you want to dogfight you have to repair each time you go in

[azure fulcrum]

you can just use a repair beam to repair tho

[azure fulcrum]

every 10-15 minutes your compenents wear down 3%

3% less power less shield less cooling

[humble anvil]

its beyond stupid

imagine having to repair your fucking engine in your 2025 honda civic every day

[azure fulcrum]

with a fighter you'd have to land somewhere first then seperately open each exterior access to the components repair them with your multitool then close everything again

[azure fulcrum]

I change my brakefluid, change oil everytime before I drive my car

[humble anvil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1pebbbj/in_the_current_ptu_environment_10_shots_from_an/

upvotes go brrr

[azure fulcrum]

kinda surprised even tho there's so many negative comments it has so many upvotes lol

[tawny fern]

Perseus bad

Upvotes to the left

[azure fulcrum]

I seriously thought the hunger/thirst system would be fixed by extending the period from 2 hours to maybe 24 hours before you die from thirst

but they never fixced the hunger thirst system is annoying as fuck

same will happen with engineering watch

[desert gorge]

Damn what a good "Healer"

[azure fulcrum]

the majority of people don't want to be forced to tractor every single box of 3000 SCU to haul with hull C

but CIG forces you anyway 🤷‍♂️

[humble anvil]

PDCs will now target and shoot Bombs even if not hostile

Engineering and Fire Gameplay Updates
Currently for 4.5, wear and tear Updated chance for critical part explosion to 20% and updated AI to reflect AI specific explosion behavior (will help with ship combat missions). Shield bring up health and regen to match 4.4 damage of weapons. Increased repair tool repair rates. Increased amount of damage fuses take (will take more damage). Reduced armor resistance modifier back down to 0.85. Updating Extinguishers in the Carrack, Medivac, Reliants, and MPUV. Temp disabled additional Engineering screens in Polaris/Perseus till multiple are supported. Shops will now only sell fully filled RMC canisters.

Design Doc Wear and Fuse Amendments: In the current build, wear and tear is mostly disabled and will not take into account time when factoring in wear as this timer is not functioning as intended. Fuse loss has been amended to reduce power pips based on the amount of relays with damaged or missing fuses. If you lose all fuses inside a relay it still connects all items, but you have less power available in the entire ship. You will lose power pips based on the relay that does not have any fuses anymore. All components can currently be replaced or repaired at stations. While Size 1 and Size 2 components can be manually replaced while in flight, Size 3 and larger components need to be repaired or replaced while docked at a station.

Shield bring up health and regen to match 4.4 damage of weapons.

SO WHY DID THEY NERF THE DAMAGE

JUST TO REVERT TO 4.4 DAMAGE

[azure fulcrum]

gladiator is pretty much invincible can't even kill it with guardian MX

[humble anvil]

wonder if they're reverting shield values exactly as they were

in 4.4

or just small bumping

lol

[desert gorge]

Sounds like 4.4 value

[humble anvil]

im going with speed

unfortunately looks like download speeds are starting to plummet

[tawny fern]

What lol

[humble anvil]

wow

one shot starts a fire

its old 4.4 shield values

lol

wow

you guys

this is hilarious

powerplant clipping

power plant clipping is a thing

causes instant death

great game Chris

@minor field Are you available to see iff the Ion can pen Polaris powerplant

[steel thistle]

i bought the regular warbond MDC instead of the concierge one 💔

could’ve had 2 free paints instead of just the IAE limited one

oh well tho i was gonna use the IAE one anyway

didn’t realise there was a concierge one

[minor field]

Bro I was testing in vandul swarm and was getting penned by light fighters

😭

I'll test ion when I have time tho

[heady escarp]

what in the glass ships is this

[tawny fern]

Chris roberts’ vision

[steel thistle]

why ?

has it got high armour or what

[steel thistle]

all they have to do is make it so your ship doesn’t instantly blow up after your power plant goes down and it’s better

[heady escarp]

Seems to me perseus was created by Michael Bay

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-wtf-gif-25758871

HOW can it keep getting worse???

[humble anvil]

lol

CIG

@lone bloom

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

Can prob take out a Idris no problem with Perseus

but then the other problem is

Perseus can be taken out no problem

Welp

Warthunder in space

we got it

[humble anvil]

i shoot and shoot idris powerplant

it doesnt do anything

[tawny fern]

light fighter/capital meta forever

[humble anvil]

I think the Connie will be good because it doesnt seem to have a powerplant, maybe its tied to the hull of the ship lol

any ship without physical components

prob be good

[west imp]

Someone brought this to my attention. <@&1042428427455705188> if you could help out with this I’d appreciate it.

As the owner of JRDF US I can say that we don’t take kindly to someone putting our logo on a document without our permission or inferring we are involved in any way with you or your project.

Please consider this your notice. Please remove the JRDF logo from anything you produce and delete any posts on every platform referencing our logo or inferring that you are working with us in any way.

While we are definitely all about people innovating on their own, and sharing good ideas. We are not okay with having our name and logo used inappropriately on something we have nothing to do with.

[tawny fern]

how does the inferno do

laser cannons are so ridiculously overtuned its like cig forgot other weapons exist

[lone bloom]

First of All, its for Private use and not posted on any Kind of social Media besides here that picture, secondly its very unprofessionell to do that in an public discord

[humble anvil]

cringe

Ravit i didnt know you made money from using their logo privately

have you gained any monetary value?

[lone bloom]

Yeah bro absolutely did, millions even

[humble anvil]

MILLIONS

[west imp]

If our logo is on it and you are distributing it it’s not private.

[tawny fern]

maybe u should dm him privately

[humble anvil]

sp cromge

[tawny fern]

unless u wanna talk about perseus too

[west imp]

He published it publicly I’m calling it out publicly.

[tawny fern]

ok

anyways

[humble anvil]

me too

yeah lol

anywayss

if you got an issue go to modmail

respectfully clown.

[lone bloom]

Mate, first of All, youre here in a public channel, secondly i told you already its on no social Media or else where, but i dont expect anything less from jrdf tbh, i can surely delete it here in the Chat (even while its months old and clown behaviour to mimi about that) if you have amy further complains send a mod mail

[humble anvil]

Ravit ur being sued for the millions you made

sorry bro

its joeover

For only $800, you too can make a jrdf meme

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

he's searching the web for links to your username right now

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

and scrubbing websites to see if that username is attached to an email

i guarantee it

bro is weird

[lone bloom]

I guess, can even give him my insta would save time for him

[humble anvil]

why did bro just dm my street address

Mods

get him out of here

[tawny fern]

so

all the shields are back to what they were on live

but it doesnt matter because penetration?

also i see everything has -15% physical damage to armor

is this old news

[humble anvil]

s4 laser cannons doesnt seem to pen perseus deep enough

mmm sec

[lone bloom]

Would even fall under fair use since im just Refering to them and (obviously) dont use it for monetarization or pretending being with them (guess he wasnt able to Google for 5 seconds)

[humble anvil]

so to pen perseus

let me see deadbolt 3

6.8 meter pen

[tawny fern]

ion has 15m pen

[humble anvil]

but very doable

S3 Deadbolts do pen but wew they take awhile

[tawny fern]

lmfao

croberts pls

[humble anvil]

so yeah

a light fighter can bully the perseus

and absolutely cripple it

[tawny fern]

🤦‍♂️

[humble anvil]

in the current ptu

but it has to run deadbolts

they could use the 11 series broadsword ballistic cannon

but thhe alpha isnt good

[tawny fern]

hey wait

did u try sledge already

9.5 pen

[humble anvil]

they will work but the problem with them

is you have to be dead nuts

there's a big cooldown time

yeah not good

man s3s suck

[lone bloom]

Isnt every ship armor set to 1.0? (And some were 0.7 So far i remember)

So everything that can pen more than 1.0 will just obliterate any ship

[humble anvil]

i remember last we test with ad4bs

and the perseus ate all of it

[lone bloom]

I mean those are ballistic

[humble anvil]

so unfortunately

because of the modifier nerf the perseus is unable to take all of it anymore

[lone bloom]

It just looks like armor does nothing against Lasers at all

[humble anvil]

and the revenants / s4 will eventually wear down the armor and penetrate

tbh

anything will penetrate

just need to get past the armor

[lone bloom]

Which goes quite fast

[humble anvil]

puny 56k

tiny

it would be good IF we were still playing with 100 dps weapons

[lone bloom]

It still doesnt go into my mind what they choosed to do with the lasers

[humble anvil]

now we're back up to 1100 dps per gun

[lone bloom]

Ballistics were always meant to be the thing for armor

And Lasers just for shield

[humble anvil]

to pen armor

xd

Ballistics were meant to Pen Armor, Lasers had to go through shield and armor

but lasers just rip through armor to an extent

[lone bloom]

Yeah but now Lasers got everything and the only small drawoff is the few extra pips you need for the caps

While ballistics are mostly slower, overheat way faster, and have limited ammo

And yet are in all areas Weaker than Lasers, again

Can you even kill people walking inside of ships with ballistics like they said we will be able to ? (Besides cockpit/bridge)

Oh my god

[humble anvil]

CIG killing their own game with this one

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

[lone bloom]

*again

[humble anvil]

ravit

oh dear

i found something stupid

something really dumb

[lone bloom]

Again?

[humble anvil]

its

a little dumb

it penned to the powerplant before the hull

lol

you know the banu defender?

trash

[tawny fern]

the way the whole thing just explodes lmao

[humble anvil]

dont worry about defender

[lone bloom]

Who doesnt

Crab ship with for some reason two pilot seats

[humble anvil]

the tachyon singes are railguns

stupid

even stupider

MORE SHOTGUNS

it burst through its armor SO FAST

ludicrously fast

doesnt matter where you hit right the armor is going down regardless

[lone bloom]

Wonder what it does to other fighters then ngl

Probably two shot ? Due to shield nullify

[humble anvil]

i dont know how to pilot but

[lone bloom]

Imagine that thing would go live at the same time with Doas (death of a spaceman)

[humble anvil]

its not bad for light fighters man

rips armor up

especially for bigger ships

but light fighters no much surface area for the scatterguns

[lone bloom]

Sooo youre saying light fighters have better survivability?

[humble anvil]

honestly

yeah

better off taking another light fighter than a big ship

[lone bloom]

Cant kill what you cant hit

[humble anvil]

yerp

you're only getting hit if you're sitting still

n sit in big ship blind spots

[lone bloom]

I really wonder if someone tested it with a idris already

Would love to bully capitals with a f7a or wolf

Until cig learns to fix that stuff early on

[humble anvil]

with dominance 3 it is. 6.7k alpha but with armor modifier

its more like

8700 alpha

si get a ship with lots of s3 slots

basically 8700 alpha every second

f8c is 7.6k alpha

or close to 10k alpha

but then its like, okay hwy not just use an ares ion 4head

absolutely right

[humble anvil]

They're really

Rotating Wikelo

Jesus Christ

Now Wikelo is patch gated

[timid adder]

Ask concierge support to swap them, they did it for me with my 21 wolf

[timid adder]

Not read about rotating, but you need the right reputation with him

[waxen parrot]

Soon we are going to manually screw in every single bolt when installing components

[tawny fern]

i wouldnt put it past cig

you better memorize the torque specs for every single ship

[shadow oasis]

Just forcing ppl into testing current content. Hope it comes back someday... Yet again i can't wait for a assasinate Wikelo mission

[steel thistle]

i thought about that tbf i might do it

[tawny fern]

this thing is so big wtf

[timid adder]

It’s as sub cap as you can get to a cap so I’d hope it’s big

[tawny fern]

126.5 meters jesus

[midnight crypt]

Hope they made the ironclad bigger. Needs to be the biggest sub cap

[tawny fern]

man

how does the ironclad loading work?

the ceiling just opens up? and the front ramp?

[azure fulcrum]

idris + light fighter p2w forever

[azure fulcrum]

of course these paints have to be wikelo 😩

[desert gorge]

ships aswell ?

[desert gorge]

Mantis is ExHang tho o-o

but the L21

damn

Attritions on idris disgusting

[humble anvil]

My power pen clipping on Reddit got mega upvotes lol

[crystal sleet]

has anyone done any qv stuff in the ptu? Hows the NPC ai?

[eternal urchin]

no one gonna use big ships shitty update

they love licking light fighters

light fighter era is back like it always there but its stronger now

lmao

[azure fulcrum]

loit fiter

https://tenor.com/view/dog-funny-tounge-out-sticks-gif-13195785

[humble anvil]

Yeah pretty much

Men they update changes a lot of things

However it doesn't change the fact that light fighters are still hitting ships outside of their range with no repercussions

So you can penetrate components with any weapon as long as armor is gone... But armor means nothing when it can be evaporated under 5 seconds on any ship except the Polaris and Idris

[azure fulcrum]

thorsten was rite about nothing being changed when it comes to lite fiter meta lol

only polaris and idris have any significant amount of armor

[humble anvil]

Can take a hornet with dominance laser scatter guns

And pepper a big ship deleted its armor and open it up for component penetration

And since we don't have PDCs

And we can't track them in our Tutret

I guess big ships are just f*****

[azure fulcrum]

also they changed ammo count back to 4.4?

🤡

[humble anvil]

I thought about selling off my store credit and stuff again and really uninstalling

But I legit only have $300 in store credit and it's only a hundred fifty dollars $180 maybe

Ain't worth selling

[azure fulcrum]

game is not dead yet but its sure going into that direction quickly

[humble anvil]

:v

They need to add an armor hardness value

[azure fulcrum]

wait no ammo count is still doubled

[humble anvil]

That multiplies the thickness of the armor

[humble anvil]

What's that

I'm driving and can't see you

Can't see

[azure fulcrum]

spviewer all armor stats

[humble anvil]

What are some stocks

Stats

[azure fulcrum]

penetration armor multiplier

but no armor thickness

pentration reduction maybe???????

but its all 1

[humble anvil]

Okay

[azure fulcrum]

weird armor names

jav and idris have "hammerhead ship armor" 🤡

seriously what is CIG smoking lol

[timid adder]

You guys sure are drama queens when it comes to a new system still being added to and tuned

[humble anvil]

Lol

[azure fulcrum]

there's only 2 weeks left till live

[azure fulcrum]

you're delusional if you think they're fixing it before holidays

[humble anvil]

I had faith in CIG once

Never again

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-gif-20041497

[azure fulcrum]

it's eaaaarly days year 13 early alpha access tech demo

we're being "drama queens"

[humble anvil]

Yeah that's right

No no, let him cook. It's early

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-asian-in-rain-smoking-in-rain-gif-17218585255855616288

[azure fulcrum]

!alpha

[fickle quarry]

Why is the game still in alpha? Read the Disclaimers:

These appear before you make an account, purchase the game, and every single time you run the launcher to play... READ!!

[humble anvil]

Clearly there's no room to criticize CiG for the last 5 patches being an absolute gem

It's an Alpha

https://tenor.com/view/picking-my-nose-dj-hunts-djhuntsofficial-picking-for-boogers-cleaning-my-nose-gif-26836208

[azure fulcrum]

!diy

[tepid owl]

!diy

[fickle quarry]

Why are the devs so slow to make this game!?

Sounds like you know how video games are made, so you should just do it yourself!

You're in luck, CIG is hiring many dev positions which you can apply for:
https://cloudimperiumgames.com/join-us

Think you can do a better job? Then show us and submit your résumé today!

[tepid owl]

That works lol

[azure fulcrum]

@humble anvil XDDD

[tepid owl]

I’m more curious about the drama queens comments lol, what’s that all about rofl

[humble anvil]

Xddd

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1442917209235259612/Perseus_Cap_Killer.gif

[azure fulcrum]

Average star citizen lore commlink

[lone bloom]

Real Star Citizens Stories

[azure fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/X8GWPEQzOjY?si=nbVJJ2z210qzT5Lg

[humble anvil]

CIG is so cooked

I saw a post about engineering

Nothing but light fighters being excited for it

Well no wonder because you can solo dingle anything significantly easier now

[lone bloom]

cant wait to dingle polarises and Idrises at OM points with a Mantis

Has the Guardian QI QD dampener?

[humble anvil]

Uh

Idk

Qi is quantum interdiction so surely

[lone bloom]

aslong it can block them from jumping and is still able to kill their powerplant

Bully them long enough so they go complain in spectrum - and since CIG always listens to the whales at least they will fix it

[steel thistle]

no

it has dampener but not snare

[lone bloom]

But I asked "dampener"

[steel thistle]

oh i thought you said does the dampener have a snare cuz you were talm bout mantis

[lone bloom]

No need for snare them if you camp at a OM point

[steel thistle]

yea QI can do that

once they’re in QT they’re in tho

[steel thistle]

yes it can do that

that’s why i bought it fr

polaris support craft

goes in the idris now that’s released too

it’s very helpful

[lone bloom]

Yeah but don't wanna use it "with" capitals

I wanna use it against them exclusively unless they fix the poor TTK

[steel thistle]

yeah you can

[lone bloom]

Just letting all non capitals pass, and if a capital arrives at an OM activating the snare and just bonking out their components

dampener*

not snare, now you confused me .-.

[steel thistle]

LOL

snare rips out of quantum like a trap dampener just turns it off like a light switch

🙏🏻

[tawny fern]

Dampener works like eve bubbles?

I know mantis has it i didnt know qi has it too

[steel thistle]

discord checkpoint jus dropped 🔥

idk some stats thing

like spotify wrapped

[lone bloom]

Rookie numbers

[steel thistle]

drop the stats twin ✌️✌️

[lone bloom]

[steel thistle]

icl those voice hours be slacking

[lone bloom]

Because I hate voicechat, thats almost exclusively private calls

[steel thistle]

🙏🏻

only 8k reactions??? cmon

[lone bloom]

Better?

[steel thistle]

😭

[minor field]

What is happening to this game

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/hakuna-matata-wonderful-phrase-lion-king-timon-nathan-lane-gif-996518841804252281

[minor field]

[humble anvil]

Solo fighter or bust tldr

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-twisted-roll-gif-11763346714153694928

[humble anvil]

[tawny fern]

Ok how about we get a dazzle paint for perseus

Instead of cig’s terrible depiction of “black”

[humble anvil]

the guardian mx one is cool

i dislike how this patch bundle is a really good patch bundle, in fact its one of my favorite tbh

it has to be my favorite

however i dont own a guardian

nor intend to

[lone bloom]

Imagine the Disrupt camo paint for the Perseus

[humble anvil]

@lone bloom CIG messaged me lol

asking about the Perseus Video

[tawny fern]

ur testing videos?

imagine rustle gets invited to evo

and single handedly fixes everything wrong with the perseus

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

wdym xD

[jade reef]

[humble anvil]

I got a Company Email

lol

[jade reef]

A cease and desist?

You gotta drop the email

[humble anvil]

The Message reads: "want to look at a few things"

[jade reef]

There's a patch coming today allegedly

[humble anvil]

"research"

[jade reef]

We're still on the mega high damage patch right?

There hasn't been anything subsequent?

[lone bloom]

"Don't cause people to think perseus bad"

xD

[jade reef]

Oh interesting, they reworked fuses. Can't shut off a whole ship by removing 1 fuse

Also looks like Percy and Polaris are down to 1 engineer terminal for the moment because multiple terminals were causing issues

[lone bloom]

Percy never had more than one terminal (?)

[tawny fern]

new ptu patch later today

[lone bloom]

Unless the second terminal in the torpedo bay was one

[lone bloom]

I wonder why they would do that, afterall its pretty much something they can test themselfes (and somehow didn't???? ) in the AC

[jade reef]

No way the email just says "we want to do research"

??????

That's how they send official company emails?

[tawny fern]

lmao

[jade reef]

Game Dev moment

[humble anvil]

This was a reddit message

[tawny fern]

oh

LMAO

[lone bloom]

Reminds me on the message from the JRDF dude yesterday

[jade reef]

You gotta message him

[lone bloom]

[jade reef]

I'm engrossed in the lore

You alone can save the Percy

[humble anvil]

I sent him an email and wrote back on reddit

[tawny fern]

all these years of coping finally paid off

[lone bloom]

just for them to likely not fix it

i mean its such an obvious thing like how didn't they got onto that while evo

similar to the sound crash bug with percy

I guess at least rustle did it and they apparantly saw it

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-obi-wan-kenobi-you're-my-only-hope-princess-leia-organa-star-wars-a-new-hope-help-i-need-your-assistance-gif-15870351959124924615

[humble anvil]

oh he responded

Perseus

I might have just killed the Perseus

OR

The Perseus Stonks will rise

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rip-sad-sponge-bob-stephen-hillenburg-crying-sponge-bob-squidward-gif-12966776

[humble anvil]

I said

This is a cheeky toss on my end but the Perseus feels very weak from a defensive standpoint- it really gets shafted in every conceivable way. It doesn't feel heavily armored like I and many others thought it would be.

Again, thank you. ❤️

and the individual is a "Senior"

May god have mercy on our souls

[lone bloom]

But that extremely fast ttk is across all ships or not?

esp larger ones

[humble anvil]

he said; that in my logs there is an abnormality with the Perseus and there's effectively no armor

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

that they're going to get that fixed

[lone bloom]

Sounds like I should download PTU

and test it myself just to see if thats true or not

If its just a "you" client issue it shouldn't be the case for mine

[minor field]

Shake what ya momma gave you

[humble anvil]

so i wonder if it was just that one spot

im pretty sure its both lol

the ion did it in 3 shots 2 for shield, 1 for powerplant

yeah lol

[minor field]

Surely it won't stay this way

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[humble anvil]

get rid of penetration all together

armor is armor

think that would simplify alot of things

when armor = 0, can penetrate

[lone bloom]

And Ballistics do more damage on armor, and can partially bypass shields

while Lasers do less damage against armor, but more damage against shields

simple system lol

Then just add armor areas that each area has their own armor value and done

[lone bloom]

@humble anvil did you use stock comps?

[humble anvil]

yes

oh the perseus is indeed bugged

the powerplant getting hitt offline isnt supposed to instant death it

legits its just a Perseus thing

[lone bloom]

Doesn't change the fact that it goes critical very fast in the first place

like no way its supposed to be oneshooteable

[humble anvil]

containers block projectiles from penning

[lone bloom]

Welp

Oneshootet the percy from the back after the shield was done

[humble anvil]

time to stuff the hallways with containers

and line the walls

can i get a Perseus sized SCU Container?

[lone bloom]

gonna test after percy test it with an Starlancer max to see if the same issue is there too

or hammerhead ig

lol

you only onehite it if you hit it at a very specific spot

[azure fulcrum]

legit all the profession ships are made insanely tanky and armored bcuz otherwise carebears would complain

makes no sense otherwise

[humble anvil]

no, the perseus is just buggy like that

not even that specific spot

other ships 'shutdown' like they should

and the powerplant become untargetable

Perseus just explodes

[lone bloom]

But yet it should not be that fast dead?

Like, even if the insta blow is a bug

The gun still melts the powerplant way too fast

[humble anvil]

prob gonna end up getting the perseus gun nerfed

when it should be a fucking big dick cannon

i just so confused like it has 2700 shots

lol

[lone bloom]

yeah 900 are more than enough

probably went just an overall ammo buff because people asked for it

[humble anvil]

i dont know why they made it 2700

oh you know what

yeah thats what it is and no one look at the xml

they saw 900 ballistic cannon n said thats not alot

[azure fulcrum]

dose the extra 100 m/s speed help I wonder

[humble anvil]

it does

but not enough

lol

[lone bloom]

what extra 100 m/s

you mean the cannon velocity?

[azure fulcrum]

ye

[humble anvil]

yea

[lone bloom]

Holy UI Cluster

have to say

it takes a long time for it to catch fire while only running one cooler at 1 pip

powerplant is at solid 105c rn and still hasn't caused fire??

[humble anvil]

Engineering and Fire Gameplay Updates
Added fixed text when a part is fixed using the diagnostic MFD. Updating Ship status displays with components. Further Engineering screen visual polish with switched door states from locked vs unlocked to open vs closed and removing bright highlights on doors. Fire and Smoke Rendering, VisArea, and Networking Polish Pass.

no mention of damage values

[lone bloom]

do they roll out rn a new ptu patch?

[humble anvil]

wtf

did they change damage values

[lone bloom]

joining ptu rn

[minor field]

Here we go again

[humble anvil]

shield tickle

[minor field]

What kind of bullshittery do we have this time

[humble anvil]

they did change damage

they had to

oh wait armor

right

something is sus

that engine should have been cleared straight off

i dont knowww

[lone bloom]

so the glitch still exists

But they still have to significantly buff the armor

Like, the shield tanks more than the armor does????

[humble anvil]

maybe they didnt change anything lol

[lone bloom]

testing Ion

[humble anvil]

12 shots each gun,

204,000 damage thrown at ship

90k on nose atleast

[lone bloom]

Ion kills it still at the same speed

[humble anvil]

nose is 95,000 it has 56k armor, and shield prob ate

ye

doesnt look like any changes

they give this ship 2700 ammo to punch capitals lol

xd

[lone bloom]

"not ready to punch capitals yet"

Meanwhile any ship can kill now any other ship easily

[minor field]

Even the hornet is a cap killer rn

We love video game

[lone bloom]

me waiting rn for a good 5+ min already for percy to catch fires

without coolers

[minor field]

I waited with coolers off for like 2 hours on Polaris before I realized it won't set on fire by itself even with them off

Benefit of a pool of coolant I guess but I wanna see flames

[lone bloom]

well its at 153*C

and keeps rising

but no fire

[minor field]

Weird, should def be one soon at those temps

Like 200 I think

[lone bloom]

how high were yours

until you stopped

[minor field]

-120c lol

[lone bloom]

.-.

[minor field]

Polaris runs very cool even with them off

[lone bloom]

lmao

[tawny fern]

wtf

[lone bloom]

yeah its at 173* now

10 min ish

without coolers at all and full pips to everything that generates heat

[minor field]

If this releases to live soon, PU is gonna be interesting

[lone bloom]

I just want to figure out how long you can stay in combat without it

but every fight would be over by now

192*

even the room itsself is at 150* by now

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

Reached 200 still no fire

3 warnings that radar, shields, and lifesupport are overheating and autoshutting off

but besides that nothing

[minor field]

Surely they didn't disable fire again

[lone bloom]

shields are also still online

Its stuck at 204-210*C

its even sinking now somehow

Got the feeling you can't set them on fire at all anymore by yourself without exterior damage

finally did it lol

But now the "warning fire detected" alarm won't shut off even while there is no fire anymore

[minor field]

Yeahh that happened to me too

[lone bloom]

i mean i caused it by shooting at the shield

But the fire itsself is still very buggy, I tried to fight the fire, and it just didn't vanish, went to reload that thing, and once I came back to the engineering room that was fully on fire, it was all just gone lol

[amber crest]

how come the near and far radius for the medas are so bad?

[humble anvil]

because its ballistic :l i geuss

[lone bloom]

CIG wants you to use lasers - as always

[amber crest]

no other weapon is close

[humble anvil]

Ballistic Cannon :

[amber crest]

what sizes are those? size 2

[humble anvil]

Laser Cannon :

[amber crest]

ph nvm size 1s

[humble anvil]

imma go look at S5 as a base line

they're all size

S5 Laser Cannons : Decent Penetration, decent aoe

S5 Ballistic Cannons : Lots of PEnetration, half the aoe

although i got a question

hold up

[amber crest]

yeah. Medusas are 1 and 2

tragic

[humble anvil]

yeah

wtf

????

Every tier higher aoe gets bigger

even idris s7 has aoe

[amber crest]

thats what im saying

[humble anvil]

Perseus is the odd ball because?????

[amber crest]

13x near radius

[humble anvil]

laser kit for perseus would of made it OP

as fuck

imagine if we actually got the beam kit

the perseus would be decimating engineering

[amber crest]

Balistic rivals

medusas are 1 and 2

[humble anvil]

xd

d0nt worry guys its early alpha, they'll fix it next year

[amber crest]

medusas need to be 7m near and 9m far to be in line

[jade reef]

Oh lol did Revit save the Percy?

[lone bloom]

?

[amber crest]

im also confused

[jade reef]

Someone was emailing support or something idk if it was Ravit

[humble anvil]

oh

that was i

[lone bloom]

was rustle lol

[humble anvil]

not support

[jade reef]

I was close

[humble anvil]

lol

we'll see if anything comes of it, he said he saw the logs though and there is an abnormality, seems the perseus armor

then i said some stuff about it doesnt feel good defensively

[amber crest]

Well talk to him about the medusa cannon near and far radius.

[jade reef]

You challenged a CIG dev

Rookie mistake

[humble anvil]

at the time i didnt...

i forgot about it being shit

the powerplant penning

and i said

[amber crest]

Hit him up and say someone in the spreadsheet forgot the 10s digit. on the cannon radius.

[humble anvil]

nah i spammed enough

😛

[jade reef]

Perseus saviour

[amber crest]

.... a size 1 deadbolt has a larger impact radius..

Also just noticed that a HH frontal cross section is almost 40k while the top cross section is 6k. I think someone needs to check their spreadsheets.

errors everywhere

It wouldn't bother me if they changed stats for reasonable testing, but there are so many stats that are just flat wrong with no reason for them to not be correct.

[jade reef]

Surely they could have enabled engineering without trying to crunch an entirely new damage model

Surely engineering would work with the old damage model until the new year

[amber crest]

its not even that...Obviously the front CS should be 6k and the top 40k. it is just wrong.

[jade reef]

I ❤️ Game Design

[amber crest]

their engineering testing would work better if they put numbers in the correct spots.

[jade reef]

"this peanut butter and jam sandwich would taste better without all this arsenic"

[lone bloom]

Ngl I thought with 5 years of development of engineering, fire hazard etc (since its just "one" feature in the end) you would've guessed that at least the numbers are somewhere near reasonable and logic - or in other words, handmade and put into it with thoughts behind them

[amber crest]

Probably some work from home dude sitting on a beach casually filling in a spreadsheet periodically getting VERY distracted.

[jade reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1254575114008137789/1446710598401527920/image.png?ex=6934f9bd&is=6933a83d&hm=a8fa1df8b61c1fdf482f557b9bdb29813e8d992950ec47ea6a5540abcffe86bb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[humble anvil]

I want to get a OLED so bad but there's no point when the monitors work fine

[tawny fern]

get an oled

[humble anvil]

I need to be a good boy !!!

[midnight crypt]

OLED is a waste of money

The money spent on an OLED could be spent in SC

[high basin]

I want to get one aswell, got a cheap oled tv and my god would it be good for SC

[tawny fern]

Get oled

And sc ships

[high basin]

But 600 aud for a monitor is insane

I cannot afford

[tawny fern]

My oled actually just got delivered a few minutes ago

Im so hype

[high basin]

Nice

Just had a look and I think what I do is buy a cheap OLED tv with burn in as a moniter

100 bucks vs 1100

[severe lynx]

why does it keep spawning my percy on the small hangar

[tawny fern]

i cant wait for this to be reality

[crystal sleet]

get that lucky pen on the powerplant

[tawny fern]

dude

oled is life changing ohh my god

htis is actually insane

[humble anvil]

Actually a bug

CIG reached out and saw that Perseus seemingly has no Armor, and they're working on it

But also still a bug

Maybe my video will get the Perseus buffed

[humble anvil]

Fuck

No no

I don't need it

[tawny fern]

im telling u

[crystal sleet]

well atleast they recognised it as a bug and not just a "its not a bug its a feature" moment

[tawny fern]

this is one of the best upgrades ive ever done

[humble anvil]

Fine, it'll come much later

Have to rip my subwoofer down, no room for it ha

[tawny fern]

its 100% worth

every game ive tried today looks a million times better

[humble anvil]

Swap out my 4k 60 Hz give it to my niece

[humble anvil]

I saw a video where the black is so black you can't even tell

It's a monitor

I've always wanted to get one but want it to be an actual upgrade. Thus; ultra wide curved

[tawny fern]

yeah its super super black

also the whites are really really white

so like areas with lots of lighting look absolutely insane

[humble anvil]

You got the same one I'm pretty sure ya

[tawny fern]

AW2725DF

27 inch

[humble anvil]

Oh the 27!

Wow

[tawny fern]

i watched the comparison videos on youtube

and i think theres one for star citizen

it looks unbelievable irl

[humble anvil]

360 hz

Really that good?

[tawny fern]

360 i didnt care about

im never gonna reach it on most games

but its just newer, so lower risk of burn ins and such

good image quality

i think oleds are one of those things you just have to experience to understand

like your first time going from 60hz to 144

people that have never experienced 144 just dont understand

[humble anvil]

after much internal consulting, i've decided of going the 27 route like you. My Desk is not big enough for the 34", I also double downed taking a risk buying used for $100 off. a Pixel or scratch on the edge will not bother me, and will contact support n try to get more off instead of returning it

if it's bad, but will still try to get more off regardless

i pray it is a smash

[crystal sleet]

The colours are colouring!

[humble anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUU-90Dc9SQ mom im famous

@lone bloom

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

gooood

more attention to our baby

pray she gets buffed to the fucking moon

[lone bloom]

Is that some Kind of insider joke

That he Puts now always the no ai Button there

[humble anvil]

i think he does the paper clip jpeg

which is another meme but im not sure what it means

[lone bloom]

Its Windows clippy

https://tenor.com/view/clippy-clippit-microsoft-i-want-him-clippy-sillyfunny-gif-8386587823609286360

[lone bloom]

It feels like armor does nothing on any ship rn

Its just shield, and destroy comps

[lone bloom]

What the Meteor shouldve been

[humble anvil]

imagine if the intrepid was like this

[humble anvil]

honestly ya

[severe lynx]

sometimes those HUD things appear below the health and food/water meters which is neat

though they disappear when i leave the pilot seat

[humble anvil]

hud things

?

oh i see

[lone bloom]

So when republic commando hud?

https://tenor.com/view/reçu-star-wars-clone-commando-republic-commando-yes-gif-2410534558936597991

[lone bloom]

Just noticed he using your video

[humble anvil]

ye

[lone bloom]

But he also says its not just a Percy issue?

[humble anvil]

so i tested

a few ships

festertsu is me lol

i tested a few ships n they all seem to shutdown and not explode

Seems to be a Perseus issue

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-snape-harry-potter-gif-5508473

he said it happens on a asgard too lol

Its just funny, I kinda expected / wanted a warthunder just in space - but I didn't expect them to choose the fragility of the planes, instead of naval ships

[azure fulcrum]

@humble anvil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUU-90Dc9SQ

[humble anvil]

mom im famous

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-spit-out-spitting-red-mug-mug-gif-15372195

[azure fulcrum]

they bought 40% of ram so we can have more AI poop

[humble anvil]

new gpus think will suffer too

its over

[azure fulcrum]

AIBS will now have to source their own memory yes

they get 0 memory from nvidia

a XX80-90 GPU will no longer be used car price it'll be new car priced

I manually downloaded my cars workshop manual 1400 pages because things are going to get broke soon

[lone bloom]

Me seeing my own Ram on that list

[humble anvil]

yeah its pretty bad lol

tbh im glad i didnt wait around to upgrade when i did

one hand i didnt need to upgrade at all but i pulled the plug a few months ago lol

[lone bloom]

I wonder, how are pricings of prebuild PCs that include DDR5 32+ Ram?