Perseus Pals

[cold spruce]

I'm stuck on melting a polaris for a perseus but at the same time I can do multi roles on the polaris-

But perseus is also more soloable

Idk

[lone bloom]

more soloable? I mean it has less hull hp/Shield/pdcs

But sure it needs significantly less crew to run efficiently

[sullen wraith]

dont

i did it, had the perseus but luckily i was able to get a polaris again

(i melted to perseus after 2 days)

can do more with a polaris

[lone bloom]

Its a significantly better ship if you're looking for Combat, but not if you want a multirole ship

[cold spruce]

Thanks :)

[azure fulcrum]

I got 65$ savings from prowler>600iE>m2

but hot damn ironclad alone is 40$ savings and it'll go above 500 🤡 I did it all for nothing lol I gotta take ironclad CCU now @humble anvil

lets hope for C2, reclaimer warbond

[tawny fern]

@azure fulcrum i went to an olp yesterday and got it the 2nd try lol

[azure fulcrum]

nice if you know where to stand its a lot easier

[tawny fern]

yeah for sure

[azure fulcrum]

I woke up 5am and started looting 3-4 hours lol

[tawny fern]

lmao

im telling you man

[azure fulcrum]

now it's 11 pm

[tawny fern]

once you have a rhythm going, its genuinely one of the most fun game loops

[azure fulcrum]

yeah for sure

[tawny fern]

i hope they tone down the npc's though

[azure fulcrum]

especially if you can cheese it with box glitch

[tawny fern]

its pretty exhilirating but its annoying when i peek a corner and go down to 20% hp instantly

[azure fulcrum]

oh I should probably try the CZ

or go down to 0% hp I did several times lol

[azure fulcrum]

so far I only get fr66, glacier, snowblind, spectre, slipstream what about you?

the loot pool is pretty repetitive

I think I got a VK00 once

[tawny fern]

a mirage lol

[azure fulcrum]

yeah mirage too

got tons of those

[tawny fern]

every time i went to cz it was always full of crap components

[azure fulcrum]

oh

might as well do hathor then for the size 2a comps

[tawny fern]

yea i mean

hell of a lot faster to get to olp than the cz loot rooms i think

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[midnight crypt]

CZ has shitty comps with a very rare chance to get good ones. The exec hangars are where you get the grade A at

Only good CZ is orbituary since you can get NBDs and the NN-## guns

[tawny fern]

ah that makes sense

[lone bloom]

sooo tomorrow will be new 2 warbonds until the 3 december?

so 4-6 wbs?

[humble anvil]

Exclusive Paints are all coming back

[lone bloom]

this copium?

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-cook-cooking-up-american-psycho-christian-bale-cooking-gif-13777956329105100946

[lone bloom]

so its cooking copium?

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[lone bloom]

would you buy the thundercloud paint? xD

Or stick to resilient

[round zodiac]

such dinky earphones he wears

probably gets obsessed about his colleagues using latest gen airpods

[humble anvil]

resilient

[lone bloom]

Why? the thundercloud looks better in my opinion at last

(still dissappointed that the Bar is kinda low in terms of paints for the percy)

[round zodiac]

ill always go for symmetry, personally

[humble anvil]

E

maybe because they werent finished with em

look at the bridge

you know?

[lone bloom]

the blue one has a different bridge

at least it looks like it

nvm

[humble anvil]

the black digital is pretty good

the rest

fuckin whatever

[lone bloom]

Selfaware said it looks shit ingame

but dunno

[humble anvil]

oh idk

[lone bloom]

my current hope is either the whole last row of those

or the orange one if it should for SOME REASON look good ingame

or the thundercloud paint resell that would be funny too

[minor field]

Spergseus

[round zodiac]

real camo would go Shark style, green and grey ontop with black on the bottom

sharks have white bellies and blue tops for colour blending from both angles

looking up a shark cant be seen with the sunglare, looking down at the shark matches the blue refraction

[lone bloom]

Yeah don't get why the Percy has no shark paint

CIG: Yeah the Perseus was inspired by a shark
Also CIG: No Shark paint, but Idris gets a shark paint
Players: HU?

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-redwaze-gif-26386125

[round zodiac]

its hte perfect dorito for a toothy mouth

doesnt the harbinger have a shark face skin or something

[lone bloom]

only those

and 2 others which do not look remotely close to shark

[round zodiac]

i swear there is a toothy one on some ship like that

[lone bloom]

maybe time limited paint?

idk

[sand hound]

they talked about that during the ship isc

the only reason idris has shark paint is cause CR wanted it

[tawny fern]

so idk if you guys have experienced the same thing

but out of the 6 perseus paints i have

only 2 remain

whenever i switch them out, the one i replaced just disappears

[foggy beacon]

that happens to all paint

it just vanishes when you swap to a new one or unequip it

[tawny fern]

well thats annoying

[severe lynx]

all-ballistics might be the way to go for 4.5

personally prefer the shredders over the deadbolts due to flexibility

[high basin]

I'm a ballistics dude, I think maybe one turret with panthers maybe as a just in case, maybe on the front main

But that's it

How much pips do you need for the coolers

How does the cooler system work even

[tawny fern]

uhh

as far as i know they dont really do anything this patch

i always pick the cooler with the lowest max power, in order to reduce how many pips they use

although, i think you can probably get away just allocating 1 pip to each

i dont know for sure

that'll all change in 4.5 though, coolers will actually do something

[high basin]

I turn them off

Wonder how it works with enginering

Gonna guess you don't need full power all the time but may need to increase if ur using too much power or smth

[tawny fern]

Yea i dunno

I still hope we get automated fire suppression

[severe lynx]

i think S3s will have so much better flexibility for power allocations than S4s

probably better redundancy as well

[lone bloom]

I dont think it will be neccessary to give full Power to coolers especially if Blizzards, afterall they said already in the patchnotes that the coolers got significantly buffed and component head Generation nerfed

[lone bloom]

Today Wave 1

[azure fulcrum]

ha its only worth 25$ now

I hope thundercloud soon

[humble anvil]

The people that just bought those for $100 each before the change

🤡

Thundercloud is coming

Unfortunately coolers likely full blast because ballistics getting fucked by coolers

By cooling

Likely going to need it to also keep ship under control when wear n tear happens

[reef wind]

Did they give out a free f8c skin?

[fluid plume]

Aren’t we in the final phase of IAE? Wouldn’t it have dropped by now if they were gonna sell it again?

[lone bloom]

[lone bloom]

Until 3th of Dezember per day random wbs and drops

[azure fulcrum]

Plz c2

[sand hound]

You can vent the atmosphere

[sand hound]

Yes

[azure fulcrum]

Warbone now

Wait

Its paladin and mole?

[steel thistle]

what happens if i vent while on a planet

[humble anvil]

What we win

[azure fulcrum]

Ion and mole

[lone bloom]

and paladin

[humble anvil]

Lol

I mean it's cool for people that want to wb but I'm getting that free money called Railen n hull b

No thundercloud paint?!?

Smh

[azure fulcrum]

Ugh

[severe lynx]

i thought you guys didnt like it

[humble anvil]

It's not about buying it personally

It's about unvaulting these vaulted paints

It's a flavor and they're locking it behind exclusivity

[lone bloom]

1. To laugh at those that paid 80-130 bucks for it
2. sadly its (so far) better than most other paints - but the bar in terms of good looking paints for Percy isn't high

Xenn did it again

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[tawny fern]

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1442917209235259612/Perseus_Cap_Killer.gif

[tawny fern]

wtf

what is this from

[lone bloom]

apparantly from a SC Video xD

[tawny fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1442917209235259612/Perseus_Cap_Killer.gif

[humble anvil]

@minor field you're banned

[tawny fern]

the process of finding gifs on tenor and then saving them so i can post gifs is annoying

[lone bloom]

well its not from tenor

xD

[tawny fern]

yea thats how i was able to post it without doing anything

[lone bloom]

just 4K messages and you can use tenor :p

[tawny fern]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-no-gif-perms-gif-27679658

[humble anvil]

Penning powerplant be like

[humble anvil]

Maybe that's why they said: can't take on capital's just yet

[lone bloom]

"just yet"

important wording

xD

[humble anvil]

Because next update it most definitely can and will

[lone bloom]

Meanwhile

it absolutely can take on capitals already

[humble anvil]

Except now it'll be significantly easier

Shoot the powerplant until it goes critical

Easy

[lone bloom]

i wanna do it the funny way

shooting the coolers

[humble anvil]

Polaris Gilly's missions gonna be on farm

Plus the weapon range changes

Perseus staying 3km away hitting occasionally

[lone bloom]

eh

[humble anvil]

Meanwhile they like: FUCK FUCK FUCK

[lone bloom]

doubt you gonna hit the pp at 3km range

oh right

wait

[humble anvil]

On Polaris?!

[lone bloom]

the perseus can outrange a Polaris

WTF

[humble anvil]

It's massive

Yeah

Looool

[lone bloom]

LOL

it can outrange the idris too

[humble anvil]

SAME AS IDRIS

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

They have to force cqb

And we'll just broadside float around em

Gonna be fuckin peanuts dude trust

And we have two power plants so if that shit dies, turn it off

[lone bloom]

But

[humble anvil]

We'll be fine

[lone bloom]

pvp polaris you still prob don't wanna 3 km range fight it

you wanna stay beneath 3

S4 has how much range?

[humble anvil]

Broadside they ain't hitting the powerplant

Like

1300

[lone bloom]

yeah then you wanna stay at 1.4-2.9

[lone bloom]

Because torpedo lock on works at 3+KM

[humble anvil]

I really wonder 😨 f we'll keep our range

Or get squeezed

[lone bloom]

i mean with those metrics we get either way at least 1.8K

[clear bluff]

questions?

[lone bloom]

What questions?

[tawny fern]

yes i have MANY questions

[azure fulcrum]

The range differences are way too tiny inbetween sizes imo

[humble anvil]

Light fighters do no damage to Perseus?

[lone bloom]

remember ballistic adds +300 meters

WAIT RUSTLE

BALLISTIC ADDS 300

XD

[humble anvil]

Yes

[lone bloom]

even if we get 1.8K

[azure fulcrum]

It should be exponentially longer range between sizes for it to make sense

[lone bloom]

we get 2.2K

[azure fulcrum]

Still eh

[clear bluff]

apparently

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

Enough to outrange a Idris and Polaris

[tawny fern]

ballistic pdc's with +300 range too

[lone bloom]

you can just broadside circle it

[humble anvil]

Ya

[azure fulcrum]

Fighters should be outranged by larger ships by like 1km at least

[severe lynx]

hmm probably right until armor health gets depleted at least

[rancid copper]

The range is useless without the projectile speed to back it up

[lone bloom]

well they get- aslong the larger ship has the weapons for it

like the percy

or nautilus

or idris

[azure fulcrum]

It rlly looks like ballistics gonna be the new meta

Finally

[humble anvil]

Those ballistics on PDC will shred light fighter components getting close

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-forever-waiting-for-you-it's-been-84-years-meme-gif-3221316472416716605

[tawny fern]

yea i think so, ballistics looking really strong

[severe lynx]

wouldnt mass drivers just become meta again

[lone bloom]

"again"?

You mean still will be

[humble anvil]

No

[lone bloom]

aslong you mean the Idris "massdriver" XD

[humble anvil]

You'll want target saturation to hit components

Mantis op

[azure fulcrum]

If you go by the chart s8 would be only 1450m range so thats only 250m difference to a s3 fighter weapon...

Which is absolute bullshit

[lone bloom]

could also be 1.6 or 1.8K, there are 50-200m jump

[severe lynx]

i doubt its getting changed

[lone bloom]

+300 meters for ballistic

[lone bloom]

Its a good change imo

[severe lynx]

same with PDCs not being counted under S1 since they're not really "ship weapons"

[azure fulcrum]

Still too little

Few hundred meters not gonna be that impactful

[lone bloom]

Not against fighters

against a capital....?

[azure fulcrum]

Listen

[lone bloom]

It is

[azure fulcrum]

Cap battles need to be longer range

And large battles

So the fighters have to get close first

[lone bloom]

You don't know if S6+ are nerfed the same way

S6 is entry level capital weapon

and it isn't listed there

[azure fulcrum]

I really hope they will buff the range by 1km

[lone bloom]

It may or may not be a pure fighter nerf

[tawny fern]

well, individual bespoke guns are still at the mercy of cig balancing

[midnight crypt]

[tawny fern]

just because meteor has s5 guns doesnt mean it has to have the same range as the rest of the s5 ballistics

[lone bloom]

yeah surely there will be guns that handle better or worse than their given "size metrics"

but its still setting a standard

[azure fulcrum]

Could be yeah

We know railguns do

[midnight crypt]

We need all ballistic ammo to have unlimited range in space

But in atmosphere it is heavily nerfed

[lone bloom]

Tbf already confirmed to be a bug

that it has bullet drop that early / partially also in space

[clear bluff]

rip server

[lone bloom]

at least on Percy

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

500 bullets flying around for ever until server shutdown

per mission

[clear bluff]

yea

[tawny fern]

wave 1 soon pls cig

[clear bluff]

gonna happen tonight

[lone bloom]

unless they run again into redlight xd

[clear bluff]

have some faith

[lone bloom]

Faith never got me somewhere, only caused depression

[tawny fern]

damn

[lone bloom]

Especially in terms of CIG

where is my Tac and Pillar WB

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[tawny fern]

i cant believe there are this many new accounts

[lone bloom]

Dont forget many use alt accounts

For referral, or cheating or other stuff

[tawny fern]

surely its not that many alt accounts though right

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/right-natalie-portman-star-wars-rd-btc-gif-24051918

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[clear bluff]

doxxing rustle smh

[round zodiac]

better referral rewards, more scammed people

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-roberts-star-citizen-greedy-eat-the-rich-scam-gif-17581838467937681151

5 alone today

[lone tundra]

[lone bloom]

all this just for a shitty gladius

Wasn't it prior 10 referrals?

[round zodiac]

sure was.

Gladius and Gold

[azure fulcrum]

The new ref glad has all mil a comps

[humble anvil]

P2w

[azure fulcrum]

Like the new wolf has mil A qt drive

[lone bloom]

And has at max S3 weapons

looks at range nerf

[azure fulcrum]

Its only 50m difference

The real nerf is its dmg to armor

[lone bloom]

uh... prior range is 3.3km....?

now its 1.2km

[azure fulcrum]

No compared to s4

All sizes getting nerfed

[lone bloom]

Still has to get into PDC range just that fact alone makes fighters shit now

[azure fulcrum]

Fighters gonna suck balls

[lone bloom]

and apparantly now hard locked to MRT or max maybe HRT like missions

[azure fulcrum]

Made of paper. No penetrating armor. Fuel gonna get nerfed down the line too

No repairing on the go

Flak gonna be a thing

As it should be tho, doesnt make sense that 5 people each having a fighter are always better than just one 5 multicrewed ship

Fighters are for taking down small targets thats it

[reef wind]

My dumbass bought another perseus skin forgetting I already had it.

[minor field]

armr_rsi_perseus.xml 76000
armr_rsi_polaris.xml 734400

armr_aegs_idris.xml 2880000

[lone bloom]

whats that supposed to mean

armor value or what

[minor field]

Ye

[azure fulcrum]

Hp

[minor field]

armr_aegs_javelin.xml 4800000

[azure fulcrum]

Hol up

[minor field]

Javelin included

[clear bluff]

bengal got 0 :(

[lone bloom]

So again polaris getting like 10x the amount

while only being 5x larger

i see

[azure fulcrum]

So perseus has 25.5% the armor hp of an idris

[azure fulcrum]

And 15.5% the armor of a jav

[minor field]

2.64% of Idris

A2 also barely has more armor than a caterpillar or hull c somehow

I'm honestly astonished that pers armor didn't even hit 100k

[azure fulcrum]

No polaris armor?

[shadow oasis]

They're gonna play with the numbers, this won't be final. Atleast we got most armor of all large ships.

[azure fulcrum]

Well the dmg mitigation multipliers could make up for that

[minor field]

Yeah it might be able to stop bigger rounds bc of the density?

Excited to test it, hope ptu hits today

[azure fulcrum]

Perseus already has 5% more energy+ballistic mitigation

So until we know that

[lone bloom]

There is your polaris armor @azure fulcrum

again 10x more than percy

they did not buff percy armor at all

[minor field]

Surely they'll raise it

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

Its literally the #1 comment from the perseus feedback

why the fuck do they ignore it?

[azure fulcrum]

Wtf did i miss a zero

[lone bloom]

why ask for feedback

if you ignore feedback?

[azure fulcrum]

Shocking

[minor field]

Perseus is literally a flying slab of armor it def should have more

Could be worse ig

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

its supposed to be a flying slab of armor*

now its just a heavier hitting caterpillar

[minor field]

[lone bloom]

who gonna make spectrum thread once it hits wave 1?

[minor field]

Damn paladin armor is pretty nice at 36k

[azure fulcrum]

I feel sick

[lone bloom]

How turtle looking

[minor field]

16k looks like

I wonder how much they'll change the values before 4.5 hits live

If at all because they dont like going back and changing things

[azure fulcrum]

Polaris has 25.5% armor of an idris and 15.5 of a jav

Perseus has 2.64% of an idris

Wtf those numbers dont seem right

Terrapin has 16% of perseus armor hp

Paladin has 47.6% of perseus

[minor field]

Pers should be 120-140k armor imo

Surely they change it

[azure fulcrum]

Dude ares inferno only has 9600 thats 40% less than a terrrapin?

[minor field]

LOL

[azure fulcrum]

Wtf is going on man

Ares inferno has heavy armor

Twice the size of terrapin

Only half the armor somehow

What the fuck are they smoking man

[minor field]

I wonder if these are the values they pulled out of their ass or the ones they came up with after testing

There's going to be a lot of different ships getting melted soon I fear

[lone bloom]

Or if they just took some kind of automated system

[azure fulcrum]

armr_rsi_constellation_andromeda.xml 16000
armr_rsi_apollo_medivac.xml 26400

Wtffff

[lone bloom]

That takes the total HP value from live and turns it into armor

[azure fulcrum]

Dooooood

[minor field]

HAHA wtf

[azure fulcrum]

Are they braindead?

[lone bloom]

isn't dromeda supposed to have medium or heavy armor? XD

[azure fulcrum]

Yeeeep

[lone bloom]

there is your nerf Connie ig

[azure fulcrum]

armr_rsi_constellation_andromeda.xml 16000
armr_rsi_constellation_phoenix.xml 16000
armr_rsi_constellation_taurus.xml 16000

[lone bloom]

THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME VALUE

[azure fulcrum]

Guess what theyre all the same armor

Jfc

[lone bloom]

Tbf could also be a place holder because connie isn't engineering ready

[minor field]

Maybe medivac is given extra armor so there's a lower chance of war crimes lol

[azure fulcrum]

My brain isnt engineering ready

🤯

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-19576862

[minor field]

[azure fulcrum]

We got scammed

[minor field]

Idk what's even happening anymore

Chatgpt ass armor values

Actually ai could prob balance it better than cig atp

[azure fulcrum]

armr_anvl_hurricane.xml 6240
armr_anvl_lightning_f8.xml 7360
armr_vncl_stinger.xml 10000

[azure fulcrum]

Devs not only do not play the fucking game but also they never read the ships description or roles

[lone bloom]

it does

rustle tested it

[minor field]

Lmao

[lone bloom]

Gave it the values of the Hammerhead and Polaris so far ik, even chat gpt said that the Hammerhead is extremely underpowered for what its supposed to be

and spit out that percy is supposed to be at 1.2 milHP

compared to hammerheads 300K and Polaris 3 mil

[azure fulcrum]

How much smaller is percy than polaris?

25% the size of a polaris but it has 10% of the armor?

Ill calculate perseus dimension proportions to polaris when I get home

Wait maybe we can do mass

Whats their mass?

Fuck it ill look it up with my phone

[lone bloom]

aprox 5x smaller

while hp/armor is 10x less

you can put 5 Percy into the Polaris 3D wise

• here and there free space inbetween ofc

[azure fulcrum]

Polaris 10 427 000Kg
Perseus 4 037 000Kg

So perseus has 38.7% the mass of a polaris while only having 10.3% of the armor?

Thats even worse

[lone bloom]

and being "just" 5m/s faster

[azure fulcrum]

Because mass is what should dictate armor

It has insane mass for its size

Comeone now

@humble anvil u gonna make a spectrum thread about this xD

Percy shouldve had at least half the armor of polaris dont you agree?

Polaris is not a heavily armored ship so most of its mass is not armor

Fucking bullshit mane

[lone bloom]

CIG be like:

https://tenor.com/view/bad-opinion-opinion-gif-22134945

[azure fulcrum]

U need to pay more to get more armor.. javalin has 4800000

Thats CIG logic right there

[lone bloom]

but perhaps there is something we doesn't know yet

I mean rumored still that light fighters (s1-3s weapons apparantly) can't do anything against percy

maybe its okay in terms of that, if Percy can just 'deflect' more ?

[azure fulcrum]

If they give it better mitigatiom values sure

[lone bloom]

like you can down the armor faster or similar fast as on a hammerhead

but need larger weapons to do so

[azure fulcrum]

Idk t0 armor only supposed to have armor hp added

But maybe theyll surprise us

[lone bloom]

Remember they don't do T0 anymore

[azure fulcrum]

[desert gorge]

perseus so low on armour

wat

[lone bloom]

"heaviest armored ship in its class"

https://tenor.com/view/haha-lol-laughing-at-you-the-simpsons-gif-7345683

CIG be like

i mean that statement isn't wrong afterall all other large ships are even worse than that

[desert gorge]

im scared about Jav tho

[lone bloom]

oh god they wanna already do a inside sc engineering on thursday

[steel thistle]

we lowk might as well have 0 😭

[lone bloom]

how bout adding a 0

[steel thistle]

fr

cant have it higher than polaris tho so lower the 7 to a 6 then add a 0

[lone bloom]

Percy should at least have 146.880 armor value/HP

(50% from Polaris)

[grave canyon]

what

are they gonna sell thundercloud again

[midnight crypt]

Perseus getting a buff

[tawny fern]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[midnight crypt]

Or is it a nerf? It sounds like a buff

[tawny fern]

that sounds like a B U F F BABYYYYYYY

also @lone bloom thats why i dont try to debate with people in other channels

[lone bloom]

I know braindead but he is also one of this channel

[tawny fern]

also, the armor values seem terrible across the board

[lone bloom]

it is

[tawny fern]

anvil ships in general should have higher armor values than their counterparts

[lone bloom]

400I has more armor value

than the Redeemer

[tawny fern]

the paladin has the same amount of armor as 600i and mole

[lone bloom]

[tawny fern]

rofl

also

i dont think we know exactly wha tthe armor values mean

[lone bloom]

Raft also has more than a Apollo

[tawny fern]

is it armor health? or armor thickness? damage reduction?

[lone bloom]

I mean... its still the bigger the number the better

[tawny fern]

but regardless, those values are terrible, everywhere

aslso size has no correlation with armor

but all of thats beyond me

[lone bloom]

@humble anvil

I really hope 4.5 includes the sound bug fix for the perseus...

[humble anvil]

hopefully wave 1 soon

[lone bloom]

was stated that it goes wave1 in a few hours

[clear bluff]

*could go to wave 1

[lone bloom]

well or at least that it gets a chance i guess

[tawny fern]

What ig

If

Hear me out

What if maelstrom becomes no armor meta

[minor field]

Overpen will be the best way to survive an Idris-m for sure lol

Going to be left with a rather big hole in your ship however

[lone bloom]

if it will hit at all

[midnight crypt]

Fast fire the railgun instead of holding it to charge it up

[azure fulcrum]

that was a bug it just didn't have multicrew capacitors so the NDBs only had 70 ammo. I wonder if the laser PDCs will be buffed now

[lone bloom]

awtuawlly it had 75 🤓

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-sad-sitting-in-corner-gif-10681093

[humble anvil]

full lasers were 61 or 63 for PDCs

with full pips

[azure fulcrum]

funny I got that number from you xD

[humble anvil]

bad for a 'multi crew' ship

[lone bloom]

yeah that was with distorition

if its all nbd its 75

at least on my percy lol

[azure fulcrum]

oo

[azure fulcrum]

yikes

[lone bloom]

I assume they doubled that

whats the caps on HH?

[humble anvil]

150

[lone bloom]

so percy maybe getting 130-140 then?

or maybe even more afterall its S3

and way less weapons in the first place

[azure fulcrum]

U think PDC firetime will also be doubled?

laser PDC

[tawny fern]

it should

[lone bloom]

What if they increased ballistic ammo for pdc too

10K bullets

[azure fulcrum]

not if perseus doesn't get good armor 😩

[lone bloom]

always the same dude

[azure fulcrum]

they should because ammo stores are bigger than a tiny ass car

[azure fulcrum]

I'm looking at videos of how to replace caliper guide pins and that guy shows up in my recommended lol

[lone bloom]

Like a cough that never goes away

[minor field]

If any of you wish to change your allegiance while the time is right
https://ccugame.app/exported-chain/8DYoURCbjW7exLT2VTU6

[tawny fern]

THAT MAKES ME SICK

2 weeks from now

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-rocket-raccoon-guardians-of-the-galaxy-guardians-galaxy-gif-2861839468019202735

[tawny fern]

hey guys i melted polaris again

[minor field]

Nahh I'm keeping this pol permanently, has 3 diff BiS skins in the chain + lti for like $675 melt

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-19055033

[minor field]

[midnight crypt]

They need a spot to put an SCU box of PDC ammo so you can infinitely have your ballistic PDCs shoot

[azure fulcrum]

so with the warbond its 75$ for polaris?

[minor field]

Yerp

[azure fulcrum]

I'm not at that point yet but...

10x the armor only 60% larger

[lone bloom]

so far they only mentioned reload space next to the turrets

[azure fulcrum]

I mean

[minor field]

Could always grab the upgrade and keep it handy if you ever want

[azure fulcrum]

1000% more armor than perseus

[lone bloom]

dunno if that will include pdcs automatically maybe

[azure fulcrum]

[minor field]

I'm still grabbing a pers at some point next year

I love RSI ships

[azure fulcrum]

polaris so ugly tho

same goes for javalin I don't like the exterior at all

[minor field]

Yeahh I hope the pol rework is soon-ish

[lone bloom]

I don't like the assymetric design of the bridge of the javelin

[midnight crypt]

Kraken best looking capital ship

[lone bloom]

I like it on carriers, but not on warhips like that

[azure fulcrum]

wtf is this shape

[tawny fern]

that is

a fork

[lone bloom]

fuck you

[azure fulcrum]

yep

[lone bloom]

i cant unsee it now

xD

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-toothpaste-unsee-gif-250743637713838733

[azure fulcrum]

that'll be 3600,-

thank you

[midnight crypt]

The entire front should be converted into a S50 Death Star laser that can blow up planets

[azure fulcrum]

inbetween the forks there should be a s50 spinal mount beam

[midnight crypt]

Yeah

[lone bloom]

Pilot controlled

[azure fulcrum]

IDK what the hell those things are

[minor field]

Javefork

[azure fulcrum]

probably retro thrusters or something

[lone bloom]

Torpedo tubes

[minor field]

Forkvelin

[azure fulcrum]

lmao

theres very tiny arc of turret movement

[clear bluff]

look at the new model smh

[azure fulcrum]

blocked by the engine and wings too

[azure fulcrum]

what new model?

[clear bluff]

of the javelin

[azure fulcrum]

where

[clear bluff]

squadron 42 gameplay

[midnight crypt]

Javelin’s bridge should of been a command module

[lone bloom]

.-.

[azure fulcrum]

idk still looks pretty much the same

[minor field]

Broadside machiiine

[azure fulcrum]

the broadside turrets are lasers

[minor field]

Surely not bespoke..

[azure fulcrum]

CIG thinks if they put pointy shapes on ships that makes them scary or something

but they just make it look like a fork

[lone bloom]

but percy has pointy stuff too

[tawny fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1436144140890148904/Javelin_Guns.gif

[azure fulcrum]

nice the "new model" actually lost details like the triangles that were on there

[minor field]

I wish CIG would figure out a way to make big ships look BIG even at distance.. It's hard to tell that a Polaris is huge at a few clicks away

Idk how that'd work tho

Maybe my depth perception is just ass

[tawny fern]

those arent waves

[azure fulcrum]

it looks like some ugly wingcommander 90s ship

oh that's right chris roberts is behind this game

[azure fulcrum]

polaris is just a generic space dorrito it makes no sense to have the bridge on the nose

I wish they would just delete polaris and remake it entirely

[minor field]

I honestly quite like the exterior

But god the interior is bad

Feels like a prison

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

CIGs argumentation "Because its a military vessel thats why it looks how it looks"

Nobody would say that who was once on a military naval ship

they have quite some very good looking even luxury rooms

[azure fulcrum]

I think its an abomination but yeah

[minor field]

I really want to test how armored the engines are

Same with pers

[lone bloom]

Just as example captains office of an aircraft carrier

[minor field]

I also wonder if capital armor will have weak spots around components

So fighters can maybe do something

[lone bloom]

Fighters aren't meant to "destroy" caps tho

[minor field]

True

[lone bloom]

More like picking off the pdcs

[azure fulcrum]

yeah this isnt star wars

[lone bloom]

or turrets

[minor field]

He knows what I'm thinking

[lone bloom]

wdym a single fighter shouldn't be able to destroy a space station the size of a moon with millions if not billions of people on it?

[azure fulcrum]

[minor field]

I'm so tired of flying light fighters at this point tbh

[lone bloom]

Just

[minor field]

Too much time pvping

[lone bloom]

don't then?

[azure fulcrum]

I'm tired of dorrito spaceships I hope RSI stops making dorrito

[minor field]

But the l22 is sooo cool

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-you-speak-heresy-warhammer-40k-what-did-you-say-don't-say-that-gif-3570587536222968742

[minor field]

I hope the battlecruiser is a dorito

[azure fulcrum]

if dogfighters turn out to be shit I'll just upgrade my L22 to the Kruger Stingray

[lone bloom]

Galaxy and Perseus apparantly bad now?

and Zeus

[azure fulcrum]

perseus isnt a dorrito it's more like dagger shaped lol

[sand hound]

you would probably not stop the fire since you still have atmosphere in your ship

[minor field]

The external sound of the L22 guns is so sick, but when in first person it sounds so generic unfortunately

[azure fulcrum]

hmm its like a round dorrito maybe XD

damn hangar link still hasn't updated perseus model

[lone bloom]

Polaris spicky dorito

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I noticed that ,.. that's such a shame

[lone bloom]

The only thing where the Polaris looks good is from the very front

with no angle

But then there is also

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

yeah there was a... better pictur of it

[azure fulcrum]

the cockpit just loks silly lol

[lone bloom]

prob front cockpit because its a torpedo boat

"mimimi but it isn't a torpedo boat"

[azure fulcrum]

javalin a torpedo boat too?

cause it has bigger torpedos

[lone bloom]

No because its overall weaponry isn't shit

xD

Idris can hurt outside of its spinal mount

Javelin can extremely hurt outside of the torps

Polaris is just dangerous because of its torps

[azure fulcrum]

wtf 32x s12 torpedo

get rekt

[lone bloom]

If it would not have the torps, it would be a shittier weaponized Hammerhead with more HP

[azure fulcrum]

what a weird ass picture

it's all warped

I thought that was a hull E for a second

wave 1 better hurry up I want to know what we're dealing with here

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[lone bloom]

I mean no doubt percy will just get buffs here rn

But non the less S5 ships aren't where they should be

[azure fulcrum]

javalin apparently also is getting kits like idris

I noticed javalin has both ballistic variants and laser ones

kinda gives me hope for perseus kits

[midnight crypt]

Javelin is modular as well

[azure fulcrum]

thats what they said at shitcon 2953 yeah

[lone bloom]

always been modular no?

[azure fulcrum]

[midnight crypt]

I wonder if the modules will be like the Apollo or we gotta pay for each module for the javelin

[azure fulcrum]

I think javalin will come before SQ42 release

just a gutt feeling lol

[lone bloom]

Tbf they said Apollo Modules are only compensation for the yet missing drones

pretty sure those apollo modules would've been the same as the Idris ones otherwise

[midnight crypt]

So javelin will probably be $6k total if you want all the modules

[lone bloom]

two more years then

[azure fulcrum]

no doubt

[lone bloom]

People can't even crew Idris or Polaris 98% of all times

how would a Javelin work

[azure fulcrum]

youtube is flooded with thumbnails like this

[midnight crypt]

Javelin comes with ai blades on launch

[azure fulcrum]

even tho its clickbait

I have to agree they're just gonna use it as another excuse

[lone bloom]

I mean fair GTA 6 will cause a big player dent likely in all games across all platforms and genres

But doubt that gonna cause significantly less purchases of SQ

[azure fulcrum]

GTA 6 was delayed because of "AI"

[lone bloom]

I just hope that they not go 60-70 bucks for SQ42

Otherwise I will say if you demand full AAA price, I demand AAA Quality

and if it crashes as often as it did in the demo preview we got

then GG

[midnight crypt]

All depends on release date, they can make most money on not releasing anywhere near GTA 6 release date. If someone that never played SC before would have to choose between the two to spend money on, would be GTA6

[azure fulcrum]

I think they most definitely will, because thats the new price for a fully released game nowadays

[lone bloom]

Still AAA prices

[azure fulcrum]

CIG already behaves like AAA studio like activision lol

[lone bloom]

I know

But they aren't

[azure fulcrum]

they milk their customers harder than AAA

so you could say they are AAAA studio now xD

or SSS rank studio

[midnight crypt]

New price is $100-$120 because of GTA 6 and Nintendo

[azure fulcrum]

yeah totally

[minor field]

It's time

[lone bloom]

So... Ubisoft?

Remember, Skull and Bones the "AAAA" Game

[azure fulcrum]

oooo right

[lone bloom]

i wonder that this game isn't f2p by now

[azure fulcrum]

o7

[lone bloom]

If it would be f2p i would play it ngl

[azure fulcrum]

moment of truth

[minor field]

Updating rn

[lone bloom]

you say moment of truth

but forget he has no perseus to test

[azure fulcrum]

fuck

[minor field]

I'll find someone else's

[lone bloom]

They can shove SQ42 straight back up their asses with that price tag

I aint even buying GTA 6 for that price tag

80 bucks is already hard limit in my view

Like where the game has to deliever a 10/10 experience

[minor field]

massive update from live

[lone bloom]

i see the 60 ->70 increase because of inflation, everything above that is just pure greed

and most studios lost alot of quality in their games since then aswell

[lone bloom]

reminds me i have to paint my 3d model of it

[azure fulcrum]

you better get the color right

[lone bloom]

Im not CIG

[azure fulcrum]

good tthing I got it for free with my gaym package

[lone bloom]

well i don't

[azure fulcrum]

but I probably have to pay for chapter two

which I probably won't lol

[lone bloom]

20 more years

[azure fulcrum]

because I'll be dead

[minor field]

Playing 1.0 in the nursing home is gonna go hard

[lone bloom]

"I used to play this game back in 2013"
"Yeah yeah sure grandpa lets get your meds"

[minor field]

Lmfao

[azure fulcrum]

I bought this SSD from a guy back in 2012 and he told me about star citizen kickstarter

I checked it out and was like nah I ain't giving them any money

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/and-yet-here-we-are-shrug-oh-well-sophie-gif-15628276

[azure fulcrum]

then in 2013 I did buy the game avenger titan I think

then later I bought the 250$ bmm

[lone bloom]

I was in 2013 or 14 like it looks cool and great but I saw that alot of money is kinda needed for it or at least so was it said

[azure fulcrum]

etc etc

[lone bloom]

and alot of stuff didn't run well so i just...

waited

lol

[azure fulcrum]

those were the best times NGL

hangar module was fun

[lone bloom]

.-.

Well just bought the starter package / better said got it gifted in 2022 or 21

[azure fulcrum]

port ollisar, jumptown good old days

murderhobo days were the best

[lone bloom]

Port Olisar

[azure fulcrum]

padramming wasn't bannable

we just had fun back then

👴

[lone bloom]

"Everything was better in those days"

[azure fulcrum]

flight model used to be fun

the good old days

I'm already getting senile and nostalgic

and we're not even close to 1.0

🤡

[lone bloom]

Maybe the next flight model will be good xD

[azure fulcrum]

I miss wingmans hangar

https://tenor.com/view/ben-dance-star-citizen-ben-dance-wingmans-hangar-banditloaf-ben-lesnick-gif-25907073

john pritchett please come back and replace yogi 😭

[midnight crypt]

Thing is, everything used to be $40-$60 when mostly all games were hard disks. Now mostly everything is all digital now but they want even more money

[azure fulcrum]

and the games weren't early alpha they were completely done when they sold them to the public

we used to have better standards

[lone bloom]

an right and little books aswell inside of them too, and maybe here and there also stickers

or a "physical" map of the ingame map

Guess they should cost now 50 then instead

[humble anvil]

@clear bluff what do you know about Perseus in Wave 1

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

lol

[lone bloom]

Thats not normal editions tho

That used to be 100-120 bucks editions

[azure fulcrum]

I can't find the release price but pretty sure it was around 100 yeah

[lone bloom]

alone that figure there goes for probably 50-100 bucks alone

[minor field]

Now that it's announced my download speeds are down to 2mb/s

Small bit of overloading CIG servers

[azure fulcrum]

120$ I think

[lone bloom]

i mean anyone with a 3D Printer can do it

but Ik that such kind of models still go in 3 digit area

[azure fulcrum]

I think xenon too busy dataming or something lol

[lone bloom]

prob has to download too first lol? xD

[minor field]

Friends are getting as low as 100kb/s speed right now trying to install it lmfao

300kb/s for me

[azure fulcrum]

how did u get wave 1 R u a whale?

10k pledged or more?

[lone bloom]

Thats what you get for being a heretic

[minor field]

I have 1k pledged so got access I think

[azure fulcrum]

ah

I'm nowhere close to 1k lol

[grand sail]

or subscribe im pretty sure

[humble anvil]

Subscribe

[azure fulcrum]

to pewdiepie

[lone bloom]

anyone in PTU yet?

[minor field]

Getting there

Olli is streaming it rn tho

[lone bloom]

ah yes

paid glazing

can't wait for it

[minor field]

[midnight crypt]

I’m at 74% to get the 600i executive edition 😄

[lone bloom]

i mean that dude even has SC on his taskbar and a SC fire screenshot as background

can't make this up

[minor field]

Being able to tell that they're on fire by their IR slowly going up is awesome

[lone bloom]

Interesting

[azure fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIsTwcCjOa0

[lone bloom]

more ways to literally burn Polaris

[azure fulcrum]

egggh what is he doing

-.-

[lone bloom]

brother

[minor field]

Lmao

[azure fulcrum]

go to perseus

[lone bloom]

his ASOP fleet is endless

[azure fulcrum]

he's flying a clipper?

[lone bloom]

Sponsored by CIG

yeah i skipped back to where he entered PTU

[azure fulcrum]

I rewound but no percy

[lone bloom]

wtf

[lone bloom]

He activated text box if you get incom calls by mission giver

and it fucking spit out the entire script

[severe lynx]

those are under the subtitles option

[lone bloom]

yeah that looks stupid xD

[azure fulcrum]

xDDD it's like the subtitles we get on tictocs

[lone bloom]

subtitle a whole fucking box

[azure fulcrum]

-.-

[lone bloom]

covering entire ship HUD

[azure fulcrum]

insane

[lone bloom]

one step forward - two backwards

xD

[azure fulcrum]

basically we're getting this

[lone bloom]

oh the ranges really applied

[azure fulcrum]

aight spviewer showing the new changes

[minor field]

I'm inn

[azure fulcrum]

except for cooling and IR info

[lone bloom]

[minor field]

uwu

[azure fulcrum]

@humble anvil

[lone bloom]

lol fire apparantly visible hurts the hull

[azure fulcrum]

😩

[lone bloom]

you can see it blinking red

[minor field]

wait what happened to the shields

[azure fulcrum]

--.-

[lone bloom]

WTF

[azure fulcrum]

fuck me

[minor field]

Where you seeing this stuff?

[azure fulcrum]

SPviewer.eu

[minor field]

Ty

[lone bloom]

everyone : Buff S5 ships

CIG: Hold my beer

Fucking punching it through the floor into the basement

[azure fulcrum]

@humble anvil

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-obi-wan-kenobi-elevator-up-down-gif-25924461

[minor field]

Wait they did it to everything

Polaris -76% shield

[grand sail]

interesting

[azure fulcrum]

fuuuuuuuuuuck me

[lone bloom]

well

rustle said they gonna go nerf shields

[minor field]

Idris -74% shields

[minor field]

idris M is dead

Let's goooo

[azure fulcrum]

wtf hammerhead

[azure fulcrum]

dood WTF

[lone bloom]

whats that

idris railgun?

[minor field]

Yup

I think?

[lone bloom]

wtf

[azure fulcrum]

HOLY SHIT

[azure fulcrum]

you're right

[minor field]

Turrets too

[lone bloom]

i guess overall dps nerf

for all ships

and overall shield nerf

[azure fulcrum]

guys look at the modifiers

0% except for perseus

wtf

[lone bloom]

bug likely

but seriously what happened to the shields

[azure fulcrum]

yikes

[lone bloom]

did they just took 70-78% of all shield HP?

[azure fulcrum]

YES

[lone bloom]

but they did just...

already nerf them last year by 50%?

[azure fulcrum]

might as well turn off shields completely by this point

[lone bloom]

eh

i mean

[azure fulcrum]

allocate power to other stuff

[lone bloom]

they also nerfed apparantly every kind of damage by 70-90%

so it kinda makes up for the shield loss

[azure fulcrum]

not the beam

[grand sail]

so maybe itll feel the same

[lone bloom]

oh no

[severe lynx]

what does "BaseLoadout" mean

like the stock loadout stats?

[azure fulcrum]

medusas aint nerfed I think?

[grand sail]

aside from whatever armor changes

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/ααααα-aaaaaaa-trela-trelos-τρελα-gif-17149765

[minor field]

Why tf did they nerf polaris turret dps even more

It was already ass