Perseus Pals

[azure fulcrum]

Railen 300?

[lone tundra]

(Speculation continued)
Hull A would also need some improvements...but then it needs to move to 125 and provide enough value to remain there.

Hull B - 250
Hull C - 500
Hull D - 750, eventually
Hull E - higher

[azure fulcrum]

What about railen that thing must be at least 330 cat priced no?

It carries more than cat

[lone tundra]

Sure, yeah

[azure fulcrum]

Thats cool

If its higher than assguard thatd be sad

But the ccus are store cred anyways so its fine

Terrapin isnt always available either hmmmmm

Idk man did you ccu from defender or terrapin to railen? @humble anvil

Just will take up both I guess lol

[humble anvil]

i did terrapin medic

[azure fulcrum]

Taking both is a good idea too prob

[humble anvil]

meh its what

its whatever

i think aegis day is coming up right, and while i like to think its sentinel

it could be... the redeemer

the hammerhead

literally anything under the sun

[humble anvil]

holy wow

so the PDC has a total fire time of 250 seconds, and the mantis s3 guns has 80 seconds

thats an insane difference!

[azure fulcrum]

Damn

[humble anvil]

i think i been global chat banned

so sad

something is wrong with the game actually

[lone bloom]

How xD

[fallow wharf]

socials are down globally

[humble anvil]

Chris it has been 14 years and you still havent figured out a reliable backend for social channels

[azure fulcrum]

The backend is fucky

[fallow wharf]

I made it to 8b now

[humble anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO7MjccsAcY

[azure fulcrum]

Temu servers and spaghetti code will do that

[fallow wharf]

How do you refuel ships with the bug

[azure fulcrum]

Store them in hangar and take them out again

[fallow wharf]

fr?

but what does it change if yourself are the issue

[azure fulcrum]

Idk you asked for a fix, thats what i do with assgord

[fallow wharf]

fix for money refuel rearm bug

[azure fulcrum]

Idk

[rancid copper]

so when will the costs increase for this

fps ammo costs more than restocking the perseus

[coarse cloud]

Hull B 250

gimme a CCU

that’s like 110 jump

[azure fulcrum]

I guess it cum later than railen cuz its still in greybox?

[coarse cloud]

Where is railen in production?

[lone bloom]

railen got increased (double) the cargo capacity, and they said it will increase in price after IAE, pretty huge indicators that they work on this ship

[coarse cloud]

BMM on sale so ovbs BMM is soon

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[lone bloom]

BMNEVER

[azure fulcrum]

Railen was put into pre production june. Hull b september. So railen must be further along

[coarse cloud]

They will probs be simmilar time

Hull B is a very simple ship to make

Compared to railen

[azure fulcrum]

True

[lone bloom]

Hull series literally probably the easiest to make after they figured out the cargo spindle

[round zodiac]

Railen twice as large with less design bible

[minor field]

Perseus + Esperia blade obtained

[lone bloom]

The heretic returned

[minor field]

For now

I genuinely believe that Perseus will get a buff with 4.5

If it doesn't I might be back to polaris

[agile tinsel]

I think it’s in a pretty good spot

The only complaints is the hull health (armor isn’t in the game yet, so temporary), and the shields (should be better than a hauler)

Compared to the concept though, has CIG ever been so kind to a ship?

Upgunned its main guns to s8, gave it SIX PDC’s, and doubled its possible torpedo count, all while keeping the same crew count

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-thorns-gif-11146882094149654404

[humble anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjpsIu8M7ss

yeah and think about it, the components for perseus is under well everything

perfectly in the middle

could me tons of layers that would require ballistics or lasers to pen

[minor field]

I just like the pdc coverage tbh lol

Can't wait to slap torrents onto it

[humble anvil]

yes you want those ballistic pdc for the future

to pen components on light fighters

[minor field]

I need to go get comps for my perseus but busy widdling away at my 26 hour prison sentence

Polaris torps make getting crimestat way too easy

What torps do you guys use on the Pers?

[humble anvil]

default torps

whatever it came with

[minor field]

[lone bloom]

@azure fulcrum 640 SCU confirmed for Railen

[humble anvil]

holy fuck

hold up

railen gonna go to the god damn moon

alien tax and 640 scu

GOD DAMN

[lone bloom]

Well they did not double the torpedos, it only has a storage rack to store 20 spare torpedos, crew got artifically increased to 7 technically, and also the "heavy armored" part is missing completely considering it has almost the exact same HP as a Hammerhead if you exclude the engines of the percies Hull HP

[humble anvil]

railen easily going up to 400$

[lone bloom]

railen may get the luxury tax too

I mean, look at the interior concept pictures

but after seeing how the Prowler Utility got treated... dunno if i would pledge for a Railen - well i wouldn't do either way, but you know what i mean

Prowler utility only costing 1.6 mil while normal prowler costs 16 mil ingame

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/shutupman-brianhoyer-gif-18702527

[agile tinsel]

The original concept never said anything about being able to equip 20 extra torps and reload them though. If it were just the ability to drag them on, then I’d see the argument, but since we can equip them to the ship, I’d consider it a buff

I honestly don’t know why they gave it another 20, but Ill take it

[lone bloom]

Sure its a "buff" and better option than just on cargo grid, but its not "40" torpedos ready to go xD

its just a storage

[agile tinsel]

The main argument is equipped vs stored

[lone bloom]

well they aren't equiped

[agile tinsel]

If it’s equipped on an actual slot it’s considered a buff in my book

[lone bloom]

you have 20 equiped and 20 stored

[agile tinsel]

As in, equipped in the slot when you edit the weapons

[lone bloom]

they do not restock if you load them into the "actual torp bay"

[agile tinsel]

You add them to the empty slot

[lone bloom]

ik

but they do not restock

if you go to a station and order a restock

Tested that already

[agile tinsel]

Wait

I haven’t destroyed one of my ships yet

So did they make it where you can’t restock it, but you can insurance fraud it…?

[lone bloom]

Yes

They stay on claim

but do not restock

[agile tinsel]

Well, that has to be a bug I’d imagine

[lone bloom]

dunno if its a bug assoon you know what happens technically there

If you shoot a torpedo - that slot is temporarily "free" in the loadout in that second

if you move then a torp from the storage into that slot you're replacing it

[agile tinsel]

Fair

[lone bloom]

leaving an emptly slot on the storage

so the system doesn't even know that there is supposed to be an torp

[agile tinsel]

So the only way for restocking to work is if the torpedoes automatically reloaded like the Polaris

[lone bloom]

Kinda i mean you can.. also make a bit of tricksing

just pull the torps from the "armed" mode back into the storage

and then restock

[agile tinsel]

At that point I’ll just get a new ship lol

[lone bloom]

it will restock the ones on the armed ones

[agile tinsel]

The recall time is quite short

[lone bloom]

yeah i very much think they will adjust that timer

17 min is my bet

[agile tinsel]

If CIG wants to screw me over in that regard then I’ll use the alternative until they fix it

[agile tinsel]

Yeah, which even then is great

Coming from flying the Polaris a lot to the Perseus is quite nice

[lone bloom]

just puts it between HH and Polaris but reloading it is faster

but ofc costs money

while claim only like 21K?

But yeah the torpedo storage isn't the "bad" part i mean its a buff still or at least a "quality of life improvement" the bad part is still the non existing heavy "armor" aka HP

Only 15K more critical HP than a Hammerhead

tf?

[minor field]

Purrrrseus

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

honestly such a dope fucking set of paints

HOLY SHIT

[lone bloom]

Think they are fanmade tho

[humble anvil]

they are

CIG could never

[lone bloom]

Because the christmas lights were on perseus in here too

dunno honestly how people do those paints

i mean besides basic paint jobs

Probably AI?

Imagine we get a Luminalia perseus paint

(We won't)

[solid anvil]

What are good lasers for the secondaries on the turrets?

I put attritions on em lol

[rancid copper]

depends on what u want to use them for

[solid anvil]

Pve

Merc and vanduul missions

Secondaries for fighters

[rancid copper]

attrittions are good for bigger ships

[solid anvil]

Aaah

[rancid copper]

if u wanna hit fighters u need cfs, higher projectile speed

guess ndbs work in pve too

[humble anvil]

here's something i dont quite understand

one sec

nvm

but hey good news perseus kept its two medium computers

so thats good!

[lone bloom]

What compusers does the POlaris has tho

I mean you can literally walk into that component area

[humble anvil]

4 medium computers

O:

Yes Blade the whole ship

kekw

[lone bloom]

Coping that not 1 computer = 1 turret

but otherwise they are medium computers and there are small and large surely too

[minor field]

I wonder when we'll actually see the first implementation of turret blades

[lone bloom]

They already work on those for a few months

[humble anvil]

heh hehhhh

finally done

[azure fulcrum]

whaaat, whats that variation of palatino called? its by far the best one lol

I gots the store credit now yipee xDDD time for arrastra

[humble anvil]

OWO

ye im building a cheeky Arrastra cope chain

but then thats it, im done idk what else or why i'd pursue more

Galaxy for Building

Manufacturing

Arrastra for Resources / Refining

[azure fulcrum]

no use having the small cheap crap, gotta put everything on the big money making ships

[humble anvil]

i picked up a Prowler to Iron clad, and ironclad will come out before arrastra and hopefully it should bump very close to the Arrastra

then ofc we have the hull series, hull B, raft, Railen nonsense

should be a decently cheap Arrastra

[azure fulcrum]

if it go past arra then you'd be screwed

[humble anvil]

but its 1900 scu i think

450, could easily see it bump to 550

[azure fulcrum]

1536 SCU

[azure fulcrum]

when is the earliest we can see ironclad anyways?

[humble anvil]

ILW? next IAE

Drake Defensecon

June

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats not bad

arra won't get a price increase next year

if it will it will be after IAE

[humble anvil]

it shouldnt

galaxy will likely be there

[azure fulcrum]

yeah they said it will go in production first

gotta wait 15 more hours to melt heh

[humble anvil]

how much was it

200?

[azure fulcrum]

oh yes

[humble anvil]

60%

meh

40% off

meh

its ight

[azure fulcrum]

he started with 65%

lol I got it down to 60

[humble anvil]

i think ironclad will be 550

but if it goes 575

which i highly suspect cig to do that

will fuck over everything

[azure fulcrum]

I think it might, its carrack sized and heavily armored has a good amount of guns, insane cargo

probably don't want to risk getting CCU locked into it and lose arra

[humble anvil]

no its not a ccu lock

its a wait n see, price goes up then ccu to arrastra

we aint get arrastra next year

[azure fulcrum]

if the price goes past arrastra then you're locked out of arra

until arra release lol

I suppose

[lone bloom]

Imagine having to play with a drake ship

[azure fulcrum]

ironclad release next year woops it's 600$

[humble anvil]

i wont be mad if ironclad does spike past

or other happens and arrastra does come out

arrastra is a bit of a cope ship, but its another option

[azure fulcrum]

IDK about ironclad

it does have tons of giantic engine on its rear

suggesting its probably fast in a straight line

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1436369933171691634/PerseusBattleReady_1.gif

loot pinjata

[azure fulcrum]

it probably do be perseus food

[lone bloom]

Unless it can outrun it first

[azure fulcrum]

it being a heavily armored freighter kinda doubt that

I wish I didn't upgrade to pooladin kinda fucked my CCU chain

[lone bloom]

Was just thinking about doing simple cargo runs out of boredness with perseus - but forgot it has to dock at stations

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

even the carrack gets a hangar

[azure fulcrum]

yeah IDK if they just gonna remove L and XL hangars

and get docks instead

[azure fulcrum]

hol up shouldn't you be able to call a freight hangarpad through atc?

[lone bloom]

uh

yeah i guess

lol

https://tenor.com/view/fly-insect-bug-evil-plot-gif-5650927

[azure fulcrum]

I think you can just land there without even requesting ATC

[lone bloom]

might try that one then - didn't used them at all yet

[azure fulcrum]

it has the freight elevator

[lone bloom]

I don't see a freight elevaor there lol

just the normal pad

[azure fulcrum]

uh oh yeah

I'm gonna try it

[lone bloom]

the exterior freight elevators are the huge ones at the cargo section of stations

[azure fulcrum]

ye

[lone bloom]

I have to do the entry mission first .-.

[azure fulcrum]

this my fleet now 🤡

[lone bloom]

welp my fleet is still only starlancer max with percy xD

And that won't change unless I get somehow the Galaxy CCU together from the SL max

also

[azure fulcrum]

what missing?

lol

[lone bloom]

where galaxy coming from

and apparantly exterior freight elevators work for those missions (?)

[azure fulcrum]

sure do

[lone bloom]

so when manual reloading CIG?

[fallow wharf]

didnt know reclaimer only has official 420 scu grid

i managed to stuff 2-3k scu in there

poor design for grid

[lone bloom]

known issue since... ever

[fallow wharf]

never been into salvage

but it got reworked not too loing ago?

i thought

[lone bloom]

i mean not the cargo bay lol

[fallow wharf]

[minor field]

They really need to add more tiers to shields

3->4 is a huge jump

Pers needs a 3.5

[fallow wharf]

arent you the polaris guy

[minor field]

I melted back to pers

• blade

[fallow wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-after-all-weve-been-through-betrayal-backstabber-gif-5430341

[minor field]

[azure fulcrum]

you're not going to regret once blades and mealstorm with armor comes in lol

[minor field]

I'm very excited for 4.5

Even in the current version tho the pers' PDC coverage enticed me

[fallow wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-vcs-gta-one-liners-gta-vice-city-stories-grand-theft-auto-vice-city-stories-the-police-got-some-of-our-merchandise-gif-17457775

[lone bloom]

So for cargo from station to ground....

on Orison...

you have to go to exterior freight elevators to load the percy... then go down to ground... dock... store.... unstore.... just to get it into a hangar for the contract completion

"Yeah we did a great testing with the Perseus in all situations" you did a shit CIG xD

[azure fulcrum]

wtf

got 427.5 in store credit

Upgrade pally to arra without CCU chaining would leave me with 202.5 credit

But the plan is to CCU chain my existing asgard (325$ credit)
and pally to arra.

So that would leave me with even more leftover storecredit 🤡 so I'd need to buy a 5th ship lol

or I could just use the store credit and be done with it meh

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

🐳

[humble anvil]

Whales man

No dignity or morales

[lone bloom]

Btw why he still piss colored

[azure fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/YyB2_HGAsCU?si=bC9bQzF7aS9rlD1q&t=140

[azure fulcrum]

so is rustle and we both got enough for purple role

[lone bloom]

Forever piss

[azure fulcrum]

rest in piss

lmao you see an entire fleet of percius

[lone bloom]

So many with the ugly white paint

[azure fulcrum]

then this random corsair flies in and mogs them with the epic paint

[lone bloom]

"All stations fire on that corsair"

[azure fulcrum]

all the percius jealous of the corsair paint so they kill on sight

[raven jetty]

"Delete that man."

[lone bloom]

Would never be jealous on a flying rust bucket

[azure fulcrum]

theres little difference between the so called "black" paint and the default one

[lone bloom]

Ngl

The dreadfire paint looks greyer than the base

Like greenish grey

[azure fulcrum]

yep xD

[lone bloom]

Here you can See the reason why i wanna See ingame pics first

Lmao

[humble anvil]

thats so cool

man when the game gets to a point where there's this massive historical event that actually matters yah know

and players need to band together at a certain time on a certain mega shard to fight off a vanduul invasion

and its a full on fucking 5 fps

[lone bloom]

Was just about to say

So just like the hunt the polaris mission

[humble anvil]

the Kingship is there with massive cap destroying lasers n shit

maybe after SQ42 release

[humble anvil]

they think Railen will increase drastically

[azure fulcrum]

railen might get to C2 level

or do they think it might go beyond lol?

[humble anvil]

C2 level

Put into large category

Come to think about it

The salvation is literally a tiny Arrastra

I really wonder

[azure fulcrum]

it has the processor and it ejects the boxes yeah

I tried destroying perseus turret with a gladius it was impossible lol couldn't even take off the weapons just gave up took too long

[humble anvil]

15k health with shields and a 43% ballistic reduction

[azure fulcrum]

5% energy reduction ouch

[humble anvil]

On top of shields reduction

Yeah

[azure fulcrum]

so much for being weak against fighters

[humble anvil]

I mean. It definitely isn't but a swarm of them picking off top layer components

Have all the time in the world to leave if that's the case

[azure fulcrum]

each mining laser needs a remote turret crew?

[humble anvil]

Yeah

I'm not sure if pilot gets one

[azure fulcrum]

I haven't tried to take off the PDCs and remote turret yet but I can see how that's possible. but main turret man its tanky

[humble anvil]

I don't think pilot does

[azure fulcrum]

so far I know pilot only gets 2xs5 guns?

[humble anvil]

The Arrastra for DPS? Lol uhhhhh I don't know what it gets but it's a nice amount, all remote Turrets b I could see them changing it up

[azure fulcrum]

maybe it can enter remote turret mining laser from the pilot seat who knows lol

[humble anvil]

Or even forcing a size increase for Arrastra

[rancid copper]

swarm of fighters + gotta be good

[azure fulcrum]

arra looks like it has better defense than galaxy at least

[humble anvil]

Gonna be really interesting that Galaxy

[azure fulcrum]

galaxy will probably get buffed somehow

as it stands its not really attractive

[rancid copper]

but glad that you agree that its impossible for a single fighter to attack the larger vessels instead of whatever cope some people are on

[humble anvil]

CIG already said it, Galaxy with modularity is bottom barrel efficiency

[azure fulcrum]

so it is a jack of all trades master of none after all

[humble anvil]

Yes

[azure fulcrum]

someone tried to convince me yesterday it aint lol

lol

[humble anvil]

Out of CiG mouth. You have your Niche focus ships, your multi role, then your modularity I believe is the words used

[azure fulcrum]

thats the same guy that said perseus was going to be weak against fighters

[humble anvil]

It comes with its ability to swap whatever you want, whenever you want. So being able to cargo, medical, base build, or manufacture with one ship is incredibly strong but not going to be the best

[rancid copper]

? he said sum else today

[humble anvil]

Perseus going to be weak against heavy fighters * and some medium fighters

[azure fulcrum]

its going to be more cost efficient ingame, but if you buy it on the pledgestore IDK man the modules add up

[lone bloom]

It can do some better than dedicated ships (basebuild and medical likely) and some others bit worse (cargo, refining)

[humble anvil]

Light fighters shouldn't be near it but I digress

[azure fulcrum]

someday, currently heavy fighters are slow sitting ducks for perseus lol

[rancid copper]

*perseus will be weak against good fighters, not your average PU space dad that has never touched a fighter before

[azure fulcrum]

considering you can even hit light fighters with the s8s lmao

[humble anvil]

Me who sips glue n does PvE content

[rancid copper]

thats okay tho

[humble anvil]

Thank God ai sit in front of my turret

Praise be

[lone bloom]

So 99% of the entire sc community is not a threat, got it

[rancid copper]

there is nothing wrong with whats fun for you

[rancid copper]

that was implied but yes

[azure fulcrum]

blocked message spam

[rancid copper]

you can beat most people with a few hours of practise

for the top end you need thousands

[humble anvil]

Manufacturing module n base building for Galaxy where it's at

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-in-wonderland-smoke-trippy-hookah-caterpillar-gif-14768171

[humble anvil]

But $80 for a module is criminal

[lone bloom]

Dont buy the modules

[azure fulcrum]

BLD module prob gonna be like 120$

[rancid copper]

i live in your head rentfree

[azure fulcrum]

you can buy a decent ship for that lol

[rancid copper]

bro not even talking about the perseus in the perseus channel, bro talking about whatever

[lone bloom]

Only base ship, modules ingame

[rancid copper]

its not your channel

[humble anvil]

Remember when we thought Perseus would get upgrade kits?

[lone bloom]

You*

[humble anvil]

Missed opportunity tbh

[azure fulcrum]

I smell ballistic PDC kit

[lone bloom]

I still see laser kit someday

[azure fulcrum]

prob be something low effort like that lol

[humble anvil]

I'm hoping but we'll see what they do in game or on the day of

[lone bloom]

But probably will have off trades

[azure fulcrum]

I hope they pair some different guns with it

[minor field]

Perseus QI kit

[rancid copper]

fire

[humble anvil]

Qi Perseus would be ridiculous

[rancid copper]

where is the new snare ship they said we will get this year

[azure fulcrum]

XDDD

[lone bloom]

I mean different ammo types would be also a great start

[azure fulcrum]

Heavy interceptor gunship with QD

[humble anvil]

I can hear the bitching n moaning when they bring out a lightweight Perseus with QD

Thing fast as fuck boi

[lone bloom]

But those prob still waiting for ballistic manual reload

[azure fulcrum]

omg the QD would be perfect for on the back of the bridge

[humble anvil]

They can rip out the entire Cargo bay and put a nuclear reactor in that bitch

[lone bloom]

The thing that sticks out

[azure fulcrum]

right for the beam kit

[humble anvil]

Right?!?

[rancid copper]

nuclear reactor is worse, perseus has more power than the polaris

[azure fulcrum]

lmao

[lone bloom]

Anyways when perseus M kit

[humble anvil]

Lol I saw the comments

"Polaris has huge engine bay, and component room. V hammerhead has these fusion tractors n a gravity generator ball

Meanwhile the Perseus:

[azure fulcrum]

CIG is probably watching this and taking notes

[lone bloom]

Apparantly they missed the parts where we talked about paints

[humble anvil]

Rip out the Cargo bay to replace the chin turret with a S9 Distortion Beam Cannon Chris

[azure fulcrum]

man the chin remote turret is so useless

it can't even point upwards

[humble anvil]

I know I'm hoping it gets a little buff before end of iae. All it is is a little hotfix

Not even a big change

[azure fulcrum]

I saw perseus gameplay on youtube and people have no idea how to use the turrets properly

[lone bloom]

Thought expected the perseus to get something like that too, but perseus engineering stuff is just pure efficience without decoration

[humble anvil]

Thank God

[azure fulcrum]

the aim assist circle just makes the perseus 10x worse for people

that already suck at aiming lol

[humble anvil]

No way to lead shots or aim sub target properly I think

[azure fulcrum]

amazing how this isn't talked about in the feedback thread

[lone bloom]

Especially since the aim thing assist turns off once a ship gets too close

And you dont even get a pip or something

[humble anvil]

That's right

Atmo battles fucking suck

[azure fulcrum]

when the circle is grey you aint hitting shit at all even when your aim is true

even when its green you miss when they are moving lol

[humble anvil]

Can't hit Target 2.5k away in atmo unless it's an Idris or polaris b you aim higher in the ship

[azure fulcrum]

it just seems like sabotage to me

[lone bloom]

They should add a toggle for that directly into the turret Buttons instead buried under all keybinds, and then its also ontop of that multi keybinded with other stuff that you dont wanna turn off

[azure fulcrum]

perseus would be too stronk if aiming with turrets worked right

skilled people would be able to hit any target no matter the speed or size by leading it

[humble anvil]

No check for atmo drop base in range

[lone bloom]

Prob for the average Player that doesnt want spent Time aiming with a turret

Or the people that come over from ED

[rancid copper]

cant even hit a good perseus in space if its 1.5km out 💀

and no one is pushing usually, really annoying

[azure fulcrum]

thats probably CIGs reasoning behind making this garbage aiming

which is why I hope they don't remove lead pips entirely

[lone bloom]

They wont likely

[azure fulcrum]

then the game would be so ruined lol

[lone bloom]

Also better to use lag pip

Aslong you attack larger stuff

Thats why i have a toggle for it on my mouse

Unless you wanna use precision Mode but that reduces your rpm

[azure fulcrum]

I think things will only get better for perseus

theres a lot of feedback and things to improve

but you never know with CIG

its sad they never listen

[lone bloom]

Well we all know the top asked "fix" / buff

[azure fulcrum]

yeah...

[lone bloom]

HP

[azure fulcrum]

turret aiming possibly gonna be fixed in the future its not only a perseus issue

as we're getting closer to 1.0 the prices are just going to get more insane

and gameplay more grindy

I think it's a smart choice to have a pledged arrastra and perseus

[lone bloom]

Closer to 1.0?

[azure fulcrum]

lol

[lone bloom]

Only two more years

[azure fulcrum]

they are fucking with the prices a lot ships getting inflated on pledgestore

CCU gaming getting nerfed

[agile tinsel]

They could literally make the arrastra whenever they want to at this point, and with nyx it would be a perfect time for it 😭

All they gotta do is make it unload ore bags like the fortune does boxes

And then have those ore bags get processed and pushed out like the vulture

[round zodiac]

i hope the refinery has some sort of manual operation

[severe lynx]

AM/AF is garbage compared to PF/PM on the S8s

can snipe npc fighters with the non-auto mode

[fallow wharf]

All seats are next to each other, pilot can just stand up and swap seats tbf

[compact narwhal]

how much will perseus cost ingame? later guesses? 75'000'000

[lone bloom]

Hammerhead cost 44 mil, so probably 48-55 mil but very likely it will get wiketroll locked before that for a while

[fallow wharf]

Ofc it will be Wikelo

[humble anvil]

Lose materials because elevator eats it and don't get the ship

👍

Yogi replying to the most low quality posts ever

But at least it's something

[humble anvil]

Hell yeah

They're aware

[azure fulcrum]

the surpress aiming assist (hold) button does that actually work? Because for me it did nothing

the layout is very outdated but yeah thats the default keybind alt + G

[severe lynx]

best mode for me

would be nice if convergence worked on it

[azure fulcrum]

https://starcitizen.tools/ESP

[azure fulcrum]

I don't think it tells you what mode you're in it always stays on "P M" no?

I don't even know what P M means

[severe lynx]

by default its on AF/AM

(auto)/(fixed/manual?)

[azure fulcrum]

precision/manual?

[severe lynx]

basically its on auto so it does the auto-aim thing but you can choose to have gimbals or not

not sure what the P stands for but its basically the "original" turret/weapon mode

allows you to have lag or lead pips on the target

[severe lynx]

its what this bind cycles between

[azure fulcrum]

hmmm

[severe lynx]

too bad there doesnt seem to be defaults for the turrets since i have to do the following shit to have a good time with the S8s:

1. set it from AF/AM to PM
2. turn off gyro
3. enable lag pips

[azure fulcrum]

yeah exactly

they should put a "Set by default" toggle for it in game settings

oh F is fixed

M is gimballed

P is the original aim assist mode

A is the pip mode

[severe lynx]

funny how easy it gets to snipe npc arrows with the S8 on PM compared to AM

[azure fulcrum]

the 3 different modes with Q

one of them is half gimballed? only allows for a little movement in the middle

the other two are either fixed or gimballed

[severe lynx]

all i know with Q is that it fucks up my sensitivity when I cycle through them

[azure fulcrum]

when you're gimballed in AM you getting a second corsair overlaying the original one that becomes tiny

[tawny fern]

Is there a guide for this lol

[azure fulcrum]

no

[tawny fern]

Basically make sure guns are on PM and use alt+g for gimbals?

[azure fulcrum]

got some NPCs at OLP to test it on lol

am default

[azure fulcrum]

pm is correct

[tawny fern]

i finally get my perseus in a few hours so i can test stuff as well

[azure fulcrum]

it should look like this

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-soon-tongue-gif-7801070

[desert gorge]

Im gonna lean out thr window and say it
I like the perseus as it is RN ^^
It gets bullied by fighters badly even tho it has PDCs (may change with the Torrent one)
But against big boys it does amazingly well and disabled em super fast

May not kill quickly but disabling is half the job done and a flying brick is just waste of time anyway ^^

Do i want faster bullets.
Ye i feel like 800m/s ks a bit slow for longer range feel like it should be 1k-1.2k m/s but other than that i luv my perseus ^-^

[lone bloom]

Nobody said its not good as it is rn, but they sold is as heavy armored, we want it heavy armored, because (most of us) paid for it being heavy armored

[desert gorge]

Oh i didnt mean like anysaid its bad.
I think we all agree on it.

1. It looms damn amazing (only reason i bought it kekw)
2. It does its job
3. Thats the o ly negative the "armour" thats not in yet

[lone bloom]

Sure its not in yet

But the HP should mirror that it is supposed to have heavy armor

Which they simply dont, hp wise it has medium armor

[desert gorge]

Ye it sucks in that regard

[lone bloom]

I mean only 15k more vital hp than the hammerhead is crazy

[desert gorge]

Happy about the alpha wolf today to i feel like IAE was good this year tho L22 will be ahrd nerfed aasAP

[humble anvil]

Chris ? 🥺

[lone bloom]

Starlancer tac wb

Manifest it

[desert gorge]

Btw

Did anyone notice that the perseus gets focused by PDCs

[humble anvil]

Yes lol

[lone bloom]

Yes

[humble anvil]

This is glorpshit

[desert gorge]

We engaged an idris and pdcs went crazy i was so fking confused lol

[humble anvil]

Xddddd

[azure fulcrum]

lol its a size 5 ship how

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6vySkCpOQ

[humble anvil]

Balance issue. I think MTd ballistic PDC

Is marketing making a problem n selling the solution

It will be fixed after sale

It hurts Perseus the most because it only has 75 Cap

Which is only 4 seconds of continuous fire?

They have to keep PDC range high for engineering or bump it's damage significantly

If they keep PDC range high we'll, light fighters are beyond fucked

People will bitch n complain

Or nerf torps even further in HP

[lone bloom]

And then polaris owners cry

[humble anvil]

Yeah

[lone bloom]

I wonder what they gonna do about the idris railgun tho

I mean it onehits everything that isnt a capital

Maybe it wont be as effective anymore with engineering

[humble anvil]

TTK was changed remember an Aurora taking 200 shots from a s4 to kill

More powerplant clipping now

More about*

We'll have to wait n see

[lone bloom]

Yeah fighters wont like engineering

[humble anvil]

Why we need ballistic PDC to pen fighters that get too close

They don't have alot of Armor

It's not to kill them, it's to tell them to fuck off

Especially the solo dingle light fighter that wants to bully

I'd take flak but don't have it

[steel thistle]

is the L22 out yet

[desert gorge]

Nope 1h 45mins

[steel thistle]

oh it’s today bet

i was hoping for MDC today

[desert gorge]

Nope MDC is wednesday for me

[humble anvil]

Unfortunately that's in a few days

So sad

[desert gorge]

Tmr Anvil

After that MDC

If anyone needs torrents can hit me up 😂

[steel thistle]

yippeee

[steel thistle]

what’s a torrent

[desert gorge]

Thr new PDC

Thats the only reason to buy the MDC

[steel thistle]

oh yeah

is it the ballistic one

[humble anvil]

Unless they offer it in a separate pack

[steel thistle]

last cool ground vehicle was the nova

[humble anvil]

I don't see why they wouldn't have PDC Packs

[steel thistle]

last useful one was the nursa

MTC was buns

[desert gorge]

I doubt there will be a seperate psc pacj

[steel thistle]

so i was excited for MDC

hopefully it’s cool

or useful

i wanna see what it looks like

[humble anvil]

They could probably make it so yah can't rip the PDC off the MTC

Pain in the arse

[steel thistle]

they could

but why would they

[humble anvil]

Have to mobi it

[humble anvil]

$$ force 6 pledges

Stupid. Then hide it until next patch

In game

[desert gorge]

The MDC will dupe it

Noone would buy a single pack

[steel thistle]

meh, doesn’t matter if everyone can reclaim take PDC reclaim cuz there’s not much balance or anything that costs stuff rn

when they make insurance claims actually hurt

it will fix itself

[fluid matrix]

I want to be able to rearm ammo without torpedos now 🙁

Its like 1k rearm vs 500k

Refilling PDC while having some torpedos gone is going to be expensive

[humble anvil]

Xd

Imagine being poor

[steel thistle]

yeah they haven’t wiped money in a long while

[desert gorge]

I mean component wipe safe with 4.5 no?

So money wont be impossible

[lone bloom]

Imagine they made it hard stuck to the Chassis so you cant take it away from it or dupe

[steel thistle]

yeah idk why they would cuz

it doesn’t matter that much

it’s not gonna break the game some ballistic PDCs

[humble anvil]

I'd be kinda frustrated if we couldn't

[steel thistle]

lasers probs better cuz of not needing to restock anyways and all they do is shoot missiles and torps no fighters should be getting closer

[fluid matrix]

Not wanting to pay 500k for a quick size 1 pdc refuil is not being poor dafuq

[steel thistle]

ballistic might just make your life harder

if it runs out of ammo

[humble anvil]

Well with capacitors n engineering on Perseus.. right now ballistic PDCs will be better

If capacitors get adjusted then it's dependent on you

[steel thistle]

did they give it the polaris power treatment 💔

[humble anvil]

It has no capacitors

75 PDC shots which is 4 seconds of pewpew

Regen rate is slow due to capacitor size

[steel thistle]

they done gutted it before it came out

silly devs you’re supposed to wait until AFTER

you make money

[long gyro]

Finally applied by perseus chain

£350, I would say mission successful

[humble anvil]

Ballistic pdc has 4 minutes of continuous fire time

Or 15 seconds before overheat.

Laser has 4 with capacitors

Ballistic PDC help Perseus be able to run a full laser loadout because it says 2 bars of pips

Saves

Full laser maxes pips n puts caps at 63(?) from 75

[long gyro]

Damn we meta gaming now

[fluid matrix]

It should at least have some kind of kit for ballistic pdc...

It was promised to come with different pdc.. i would have been happy with no pdc but the size 3 acting like pdc as promosed

[long gyro]

I can fly my own pers and got a hieron too

[lone bloom]

We talking about Perseus - ofc we meta game

[long gyro]

How many of y'all own a galaxy and/or ironclad too?

And is there Ironclad Initiates anywhere

Tempted to grab all three

[lone bloom]

Currently working on a almost finished CCU to galaxy

[long gyro]

Perseus ICA Galaxy

[long gyro]

Mine is finished as well this IAE- £230

[lone bloom]

yeah mine not

[long gyro]

Not as good savings as perseus but still solid

[lone bloom]

Have to cope for Starlancer TAC Wb today

and Drake didn't offer WB Pillar

[long gyro]

Would be great

[lone bloom]

those two are missing

[long gyro]

I already have a caterpillar to starlancer tac luckily

From ILW

[lone bloom]

Yeah it Tac wb is today i have to decide

if i lock in redeemer to tac or pillar to tac

[humble anvil]

I pray for wolf wb CCU

[lone bloom]

deemer has chance to get a WB this IAE still but 5 bucks more expensive

But Pillar is more likely to get a WB across the year

[humble anvil]

Me too Ravit!!!! TAC is a big possibility but

It's gotten a lot this year

[lone bloom]

(ILW, Pirate week etc)

or they screw us over and don't give any tac wb

xD

[long gyro]

why

What are you two scheming for

[humble anvil]

More savings on Galaxy

[long gyro]

ahh

Either of you going to get ironclad or assault?

[lone bloom]

no

Drake EW

[long gyro]

I'm gunning for assault because it's the biggest dropship that will be available in game

[humble anvil]

I'm not getting ic

[lone bloom]

Because you're so good at dropping on the floor

[long gyro]

Moving onto bigger and better crashships to drop dropships to fly

[lone bloom]

Because this game needed more dropships

Because there is so much use for dropships

[long gyro]

Solar can tell you I flew him and 7 others around yesterday for a couple hours and did not so much as touch the ground

[long gyro]

Even if you ignore that it will get RRR and maybe even S0 or S1 crafting

And it tungsten cube with added pew pew

[lone bloom]

Galaxy too

not so much worried about crafting

[long gyro]

Will galaxy get rrr?

For the pisces?

that would be huge

[lone bloom]

i don't even know what rrr is

lol

[long gyro]

also massive step towards liberator etc

[humble anvil]

Rrr?

[long gyro]

repair refuel rearm

[lone bloom]

probably

I mean rrr is a very hot topic

[humble anvil]

For the hangar possibly

[lone bloom]

Polaris was supposed to get that too

and yet here we are

and they claimed "it can do so" - manually

[long gyro]

If there are pipes to drag and plug in I will do it

CIG when pipes

[lone bloom]

Prob something every ship with a hangar will get at some point

[long gyro]

Repair your ship with cambio srt lmfao

[lone bloom]

pretty much

[humble anvil]

Us when that gameplay Starts to matter. Scrapping shit we kill in Perseus

Probably can just craft it when that rolls in for manufacturing

[lone bloom]

Salvation in Cargo Bay

[humble anvil]

I mean yeah

Fuck it why not

Just chilling making some cambio canisters

Good little loop

[lone bloom]

"oh we need a little bit scrap and CM ? Lets go with Perseus xD

[humble anvil]

Copium

[long gyro]

Salvage ships can also print fuses indefinitely for tiny quantities of RMC and CMAT

[severe lynx]

that's one good looking clipper

[long gyro]

First and last time I will ever say a clipper looks hot

[long gyro]

Basically lets you run indefinitely

[humble anvil]

Pull a reclaimer

Gonna need a Perseus to fuck up Hammerhead to fuel our S3 materials

To fix our Armor

Real curious if they're gameify or force a legit cambio n someone to float zero g the whole way around

Like to load the materials n click a button yah know

CIG be like: Armor = S3 (Heavy) +5% reduction

I ask Yogi if the chin turret could be slaved forward like the top turret

[humble anvil]

Inb4 they make Perseus ballistic a fucking Railgun with no drop

E

[azure fulcrum]

Plz yogi I will nevr clown u again

[lone bloom]

(Until he fucks up the galaxy)

19 min until Tac WB

[crystal sleet]

*gives the Galaxy the Polaris interior because the Perseus got the zeus treatment *

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

No Starlancer Tac WB

[azure fulcrum]

Lol alpha same price as regular wolf

[crystal sleet]

but with a better weapon and turn rates for some reason

ill probably ccu my wolf to it because it was warbond iirc

[azure fulcrum]

No wait its 120

[crystal sleet]

i think thats howit works

[azure fulcrum]

I get warbone

[lone bloom]

but slower speed

[crystal sleet]

huh, gotta check the stats again rq

[lone bloom]

at least thats what they said in the behind the ships

gain agility but lose slightly speed

[steel thistle]

meoowwwww

[crystal sleet]

they release a BTS for teh alpha already?

[azure fulcrum]

There no warbone??????

[lone bloom]

There is

[azure fulcrum]

Ccu

[crystal sleet]

oh yeah, its a little slower by 5m/s normal and 10m/s slower boost

[lone bloom]

well no not for CCU

lmao

[steel thistle]

alpha wolf out yet?

[azure fulcrum]

Bruh

[lone bloom]

oh god, do they wanna cut the whole CCU game entirely?

[azure fulcrum]

I predicted this fuck

[lone bloom]

i mean i can just melt again my tac-galaxy upgrade

if they do that

[azure fulcrum]

This is mental

[steel thistle]

so is it just the L21 but with lasers and some better missiles 😭

[steel thistle]

what they do?

[lone bloom]

and better agility

yes

[lone bloom]

No Warbond for CCU

[azure fulcrum]

Brooo

[steel thistle]

ohhh no daily?

[lone bloom]

It has a warbond, but not if you wanna upgrade

[steel thistle]

wym?

what has a warbond

[azure fulcrum]

Wolf

[crystal sleet]

imma ccu my wolf, its got LTI anyways

[lone bloom]

The L22 wolf

has a Warbond - but not if you wanna do it with Upgradef

[crystal sleet]

if i want the l21 back, ill just melt and rebuy it

[steel thistle]

oh okay

[azure fulcrum]

Were fucked guys

This is it

[steel thistle]

was anyone actually caring about an upgrade for that?

[lone bloom]

Upgrade has only the base option, even while there is a warbond on the store

[crystal sleet]

anyone else getting the L22?

[lone bloom]

If I would have a L21, I woulkd upgrade to L22

[steel thistle]

naw i didn’t get the L21

idk what the point of it is

[azure fulcrum]

Dude it means all stf wint get wb ccus from now on

[steel thistle]

better than gladius?

[azure fulcrum]

[steel thistle]

did they previously? never noticed icl

[lone bloom]

No

[crystal sleet]

oof, well i guess i get a cool little ship that i get to keep going back and forth from, i got store creds too, so its basically free

[lone bloom]

I mean they had wb ccu previously

But they never excluded warbond from CCU

Until now

[crystal sleet]

maybe they made a mistake?

[steel thistle]

?????? i don’t remember a warbond apollo upgrade when that came out

[lone bloom]

I have one literally in my hangar

[steel thistle]

or cutter

[azure fulcrum]

30 usd to upgrade from gladius is steep

Idk man

[steel thistle]

oh cool

[lone bloom]

Starlancer Max - > Apollo Medivac WB

There was a CCU WB

[azure fulcrum]

Overpriced fighter

[crystal sleet]

im $20 difference, i got $64 store creds because i forgot to use it when buying my paints

[steel thistle]

what about gladius isn’t it still the goat tho

[lone bloom]

no

[steel thistle]

💔💔

[lone bloom]

Hawk been the Meta PvP ship for a while

dunno whats now

[azure fulcrum]

Not anymore

[steel thistle]

the hawk?!

[lone bloom]

yes

[steel thistle]

LMFAOOOO

what happened

[lone bloom]

because of the EMP

and turnrate

[steel thistle]

ah

[azure fulcrum]

Fml

[steel thistle]

maybe L22 is king now

[azure fulcrum]

Fuck you ci-greed

[crystal sleet]

just got the ccu upgrade, imma hold onto it for a while lmao

[azure fulcrum]

Gemreviews gonna be happy

Free views

[lone bloom]

Well I will wait until ILW likely or even pirate week next year coping they put on a CCU WB for Pillar/deemer or Tac

If not

I gonna melt

[steel thistle]

so what changed that made EMPs meta?

[azure fulcrum]

O7

[lone bloom]

Dunno if they are now anymore

But pretty much downed your shield in a single burst aslong you're a light-medium fighter

and turn rate got buffed

[steel thistle]

oh wowie

EMPs used to do nothing to shielded enemies

that’s a good change

so avenger warlock is it? is probs good now too

[lone bloom]

I mean... EMP is supposed to be most effective against shield xD

[steel thistle]

yeah

that’s a good change

[lone bloom]

As I said, dunno if thats still the meta

[lone bloom]

I mean my Galaxy chain lmao

not everything

what pricing of railen rn?

220?

If it should increase to 300 ish and they cut the CCU ability i may just upgrade my SL Max to Railen after price increase lol

[steel thistle]

to balance it they should probs

[steel thistle]

have it so as the emp charges up your shield charges down

and when 100% charged you have no shield

[lone bloom]

idk

[steel thistle]

or smth

[lone bloom]

I don't use the hawk

[steel thistle]

cuz that’s crazy

i always liked the hawk

cuz the logout

and it looks cool

and the emp was cool but useless

[azure fulcrum]

Guardian mx warbone ccu fuuuuuuck

[steel thistle]

but it’s always been shit

[lone bloom]

So

Existing ships still get WB CCU?

[azure fulcrum]

Yes

Just not stf

[steel thistle]

maybe i’ll melt my gladius valiant for a hawk then LOL

[lone bloom]

I mean none i need for my chain are STF so - we good

Maybe I can cope now that Aegis goes with a deemer WB

[azure fulcrum]

I dont need mx earbone bcuz i hav railen

[lone bloom]

IAE would be fucked for me

Not even one WB i needed

If deemer shouldn't get one

[crystal sleet]

the L22 repeaters are better Rhinos. 75 shots for 567 sustained dps, rhino is 436 sustained

[lone bloom]

Doesn't it also outgun a Gladius btw?

[azure fulcrum]

Their bettar dan ndb too

[crystal sleet]

slower muzzle velocities though

[lone bloom]

Gladius has 3x S3 no?

[steel thistle]

man rip gladius 💔😔

[azure fulcrum]

Absolutely it does

[crystal sleet]

L22 = 1 650 m/s
Rhino = 1 800 m/s

[azure fulcrum]

Not that big of a deal lol

[crystal sleet]

L22 alpha damage is 85

Rhino alpha is 65

[steel thistle]

what size are the missiles

[lone bloom]

6x S3

or was it S2?

[crystal sleet]

s2

6x

[azure fulcrum]

Same as gladius i guess

[crystal sleet]

the L22 looks like it has a damn v12 on its spine

looks hot

[lone bloom]

the weapons on the 21 and 22 can now be changed btw

[crystal sleet]

WHAT

[azure fulcrum]

Wtf

[crystal sleet]

THEYRE INTERCHANGABLE??

[lone bloom]

you can swap them between ballistic one from L21 and the laser one

yes

[azure fulcrum]

But

[crystal sleet]

intended?

[lone bloom]

yes

[crystal sleet]

best of both worlds!

[azure fulcrum]

L22 still faster?

[lone bloom]

slower* but more agile

[azure fulcrum]

O

[steel thistle]

what’s the point in getting an L22 if you can use the L21 with its guns

[lone bloom]

you need the L22 to get the guns

[azure fulcrum]

Lol

[lone bloom]

lol

[crystal sleet]

turn rates, easier time getting nose on target

[lone bloom]

also probably L21 will have less capacitators than the L22

[azure fulcrum]

Wait can i use ballistic on l22

[steel thistle]

maybe if they put it into stores

[lone bloom]

yes

[crystal sleet]

the l22 has a whole dedicated capacitor bank on its back, but it could also be interpreted as a massize ammo magazine

[azure fulcrum]

I wonder if ammo count is the same

[crystal sleet]

can we buy the kits? Or is it just "buy both ships"

[lone bloom]

Only croberts knows

I guess ships

[crystal sleet]

they exist

[azure fulcrum]

Wtf

[lone bloom]

are there kits?

[steel thistle]

but they make less money if there’s kits!

[lone bloom]

[steel thistle]

OMG

[crystal sleet]

theres two laser kits?

oh warbond

[lone bloom]

Warbond on a kit

lmao

would still prefer the L22 lol

simply because it looks better

[steel thistle]

idris kits:

[crystal sleet]

warbonds are 13.75, normal is 16.50 respectively

the paints are also interchangable, thank god

got the kit lmao, store creds ftw

[severe lynx]

medium hangar

[lone bloom]

[crystal sleet]

yet they still assign fucking docking collar for landing.

Bruh

[lone bloom]

33 fps in hangar

ouch

[grand sail]

Knew my extra store credit would come in handy some day

[severe lynx]

tight fit

[crystal sleet]

perseus keeps catching stray wins everyday

[lone bloom]

Yet still docking

[crystal sleet]

docking is just a universal L

[azure fulcrum]

No way

Waaat

[crystal sleet]

yup lmao

[lone bloom]

Fit not just in a L hangar - but also in a M hangar

Orison and every station: Yup here you go with your docking

[crystal sleet]

there should be a new landing prompt, either like "Use the [ or ] keys to choose between hangar or docking collar"

[lone bloom]

yey

more keybinds

[crystal sleet]

not really, imagine like those contract notifications, but for picking hangar or collar

[lone bloom]

Did anyone test by now if those auto loaders of the perseus are now animted or not?

[crystal sleet]

oh i didnt think of that