Perseus Pals

[azure fulcrum]

yeah '

xD

[lone bloom]

I mean concept wise there isn't one either so hoping it stays like that

even tho its assymetrical

also dude says there has to be a catch with boring grey interior

this kinda proves to me they learned from it at least color wise

they even went so far to use red/orange

for a quite noticeably amount

[azure fulcrum]

hmmm it definitely looks a lot less bland than poolaris

[lone bloom]

looks like those overroll cages

in those special cars

[azure fulcrum]

notorious perseus hater I gotta fact check I don't trust him lol

[lone bloom]

He is a admin here

[azure fulcrum]

well he's wrong its still there

[lone bloom]

i mean i agree with him in the most parts even

[azure fulcrum]

I don't

[lone bloom]

I mean he technically saying it won't be as armored as a polaris - which is true
it won't be as agile/speedy as a Hammerhead therefor too (even CIG said they will revisit the speed)

and that the guns will damage all kind of capitals

its just simply what CIG said

[humble anvil]

When I read that forum

[azure fulcrum]

perseus being soley a subcap killer is not applicable anymore cause it got upgunned significantly

[azure fulcrum]

it's fucking cringe

[humble anvil]

When I read that forum I wonder if people actually play the game or forum warrior by lore

[lone bloom]

well sure it role may be now a sub cap to cap killer absolutely , but I honestly don't see the perseus either fighting a fully crewed Idris IF it has escort

[azure fulcrum]

don't agree with that eihter perseus scope and stats have completely changed it's an old concept

like sure the general idea of perseus is that but the stats will likely not be in line with that at all

[round zodiac]

the S8 upgun especially

mustr more anti cap

[azure fulcrum]

like with most ships that got released

so its a very immature way of looking at things

[lone bloom]

You not reading eh?

[humble anvil]

That one guy saying S8s don't mean shit, I was not ragebaited, just very gen z stareing

[lone bloom]

I said sure its gonna deal with Caps - aslong they are used the way they get used rn most of the time

aka solo, or ghost crewed

and especially not in a fleet

[humble anvil]

I worry about the Perseus with TTK Engineering changes. How heavily armored the top is

Really need the s3 remote turret to be bladed

Otherwise Ares gonna come over brrt the top and that's that

[azure fulcrum]

my reply was to the part where you said its gonna be slower than hammerhead

[lone bloom]

Well it will be

Slower than the hammerhead, faster than polaris

[azure fulcrum]

so they said but then I said its not written in stone its an old concept

likely tooo chaaange

etc

I just don't know what its going to be like

[lone bloom]

I mean its almost if not by now very similar sized, and heavier

Why would it be faster

[azure fulcrum]

I think it will not be much slower and less agile

[lone bloom]

Never said so

[round zodiac]

literaaly 8 days

[lone bloom]

I said slower and more tanky

[round zodiac]

just.. park this covo for as week

[lone bloom]

Not how much slower

[azure fulcrum]

I never wanted this discussion lol

argueing semantics

xDDD

I'm just open to the possibility that it may steer off concept

that applies for all stats

Concept stats are bullshit

in my honest opinion

[lone bloom]

If it would be faster and more agile it would be better than the HH in every way

[azure fulcrum]

especiallywhen they're 5 years old

[round zodiac]

faq from 2020 says 96 SCM

[azure fulcrum]

like get real

[round zodiac]

but that was pre mastermodes...

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

In my mind it was 100

But i dunno when they changed it

[azure fulcrum]

like that has never happened in SC history when they release a new ship

helloooo

xD

[lone bloom]

And said ship never got a very hard nerf bat hit

ares

[azure fulcrum]

If you wanna compare it to anything compare it to paladin gunship tuning

[lone bloom]

Didnt hh got reclassified as gunship?

[round zodiac]

heavy gunsdhip

[azure fulcrum]

HH is a piece of shit it doesn't reflect anything in terms of balancing

heavy turd

its just useless at everything

[round zodiac]

Hammerhead identifies as Out Of Date

refactoring is active though

[azure fulcrum]

it needs to be completely reworked every stat

I hope it will soon

not just the component pass

[lone bloom]

Heavy gunship infact*

It does

[azure fulcrum]

🤓 ok but percius is a heavy gunboat

[lone bloom]

110 meters

Including the stairs

[round zodiac]

the usual looming nose thing

[azure fulcrum]

100% confirmed percius is in main hall display

and it barely grew in size

106m max

[round zodiac]

adn the eavator need sa flat surface\

[azure fulcrum]

100-106m

[lone bloom]

No, would be likely 10m above the ground

More than enough space to walk beneath it

[azure fulcrum]

you can just walk underneath it

[round zodiac]

side profile is a good choice for a broadsider

[azure fulcrum]

its fucking amazing

[round zodiac]

people gonna be seeing that port side of the ship a lot

as victims of the broadside

bespoke guns and shield?

and everyone saying it needs more powerplant etc etc

bespoke creep

[lone bloom]

It might get simply more s3 shields

Maybe it will get 3 or 4

[azure fulcrum]

they'll give it cap shields so they can do bespoke tuning for it

just for convenience

[lone bloom]

Then it would be a cap ship

Percy will do fine with Stock powerplants

Dont forget that the Main guns are bespoke ballistic

So you dont need much Power for the guns like on other ships

I mean if those are changeable put attrition or nbds on them

Anything but ballistic

[round zodiac]

yea, i hope my 1.5mil in the bank is enough for 6 s3 laser repeaters

https://tenor.com/view/wait-that-thats-is-illegal-gif-18393263

[azure fulcrum]

just rent a ship and yank them off

[round zodiac]

i would never dupe

learnede my lesson on Runescape

[lone bloom]

Railgun

[round zodiac]

someone made an edit of that

Perseus Railgun variant

[lone bloom]

I did

[round zodiac]

you make everythign

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[round zodiac]

Persnape

Snaperseus?

[lone bloom]

I have not for no reason 20+k messages in this channel here

I mean

[round zodiac]

im at 10% of that

[lone bloom]

Look at my name

Wasnt it obvious i did that one

[round zodiac]

yoyur name say a lot of things

i usually stop reading at fur

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

what if hammerhead rework gets PDCs

[round zodiac]

i mean, it seems like Oprah is running the PDC rollouts rn

[lone bloom]

Tbf cig said specifically that the hh wont get pdcs just last year

But cig being cig i guess

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

They said it has more than enough turrets to fend of missiles and torps

[azure fulcrum]

lol

[lone bloom]

I mean

It aint untrue

But who even uses a fully crewed hh

Which is the only way to make a hh usefull other than just flying around

[azure fulcrum]

IDK never tried to hit missiles with a turret

the smaller ones are pretty fast

torps you can kill easily tho

[lone bloom]

Not worth trying

Only stuff you will hit is s9 or larger

Aka the ones that should better not hit you

S5 torps still crazy fast

Even for pdcs

And they have fucking aimbot- literally

[azure fulcrum]

S5 torps are probably the best overall

they have crazy stats

[lone bloom]

They confirmed to be too fast for pdcs too

All torps go through pdc defence

And they still have very nasty damage

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its gonna be even worse now they nerfed PDCs

[lone bloom]

They wont do much to capitals ofc but one disables a connie, two kill a connie

[round zodiac]

i kinda like that for Torps, more durable and more boom, but less guidance

[lone bloom]

A hammerhead also gets cripled by a few

Crazy to think about that 20 are enough to kill 10 connies

Would be Overkill btw

Connie vital part 20k

One torp is 17k

[azure fulcrum]

ugh I remember someone tested S5 torps a few days ago and said you could one hit a connie with it

he tested against a lot of different ships

[lone bloom]

Depends what you hit

Likely

I always go with cockpit

But s5 are really really nasty

[round zodiac]

be hilarious to cockblock your own turretors as a Perseus pilot, one hitting all the ERTs with torpedos before they can even come to bear

[lone bloom]

Nah hh wont Pop easily

You could surely

But hh is probably better of getting killed by the turret

[lone bloom]

The fun part is still that s5 torps are stupidly cheap

3 or 4 k to Restock one

[azure fulcrum]

its gonna be completely different when engineering comes so it doesn't matter lol

[lone bloom]

In comparison to 800k ish

For s10

[azure fulcrum]

best buck for bang torps ever

xDD

[lone bloom]

Ngl prob bugged

[round zodiac]

redeemer gets one shot by a Rattler too

[lone bloom]

[round zodiac]

i flew one for many hours. any missile takes out the tail fin

[lone bloom]

That

Is good to know

[azure fulcrum]

that was 4 years ago tho lol

[lone bloom]

Prob still applies

[round zodiac]

since then, those turert ahve become untargetable, remodelled, allegienace aligned, can then couldnt then could again target hoverbikes

so who knows what state theyre in

[lone bloom]

Deathspin?

[round zodiac]

torque imbalance and a lean from one missile

[lone bloom]

I mean with engineering they prob have to Rebalance torps and missiles

That they do more splash dmg

So they just Pop components

[round zodiac]

after X they have to rebalance Y is just SC

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/never-ending-story-gif-24792258

Lets hope engineering will be the last major rebalance

Oh wait

Atmospheric flight

Permanent scm with nav boost....

[azure fulcrum]

how about the never ending flight model changes

[lone bloom]

I mean we all see they have to change it

But hoping they finally make it "good"

(Speaking about the kiting of fighters)

[azure fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwkdV2UmcbE

the atmospheric pressure system is so bad '

hmm maybe we'll get force reaction when a room gets vented eventually

but first they gotta fix the rooms being connected for venting xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agHWCG-zuGk

[static cape]

What are y'all naming your perseus?

[azure fulcrum]

LOL thats us @lone bloom

[round zodiac]

Howitzer

[lone bloom]

me only drinking water

Surprised the mouse isnt buried beneath all that ash

[azure fulcrum]

xDD

[lone bloom]

Bismarck

[azure fulcrum]

Percius

[round zodiac]

why are you like this

[lone bloom]

Why not

not the Name i would choose in my literal Name here WHICH YOU SKIP READING

[azure fulcrum]

I wouldn't even touch Nautilus with a 10ft pole

that goes for any ship that has features like drones and such that will never see the light of day

[lone bloom]

Nautilus is like the endeavor

Nautinever

[azure fulcrum]

basically yeah xD

[lone bloom]

And Nautilus being extremely niche doesnt make it better

[azure fulcrum]

are there any other ships like this except for BMM which has the most chance of succeeding I guess

[lone bloom]

Different kind of mines and also drones just for a Single ship, heck not even the a2 or a1 got different kind of bombs

[azure fulcrum]

I guess exploration ships would also fall under that category

I see no reason to get like an oddysey

[round zodiac]

fits only 10 mines

[azure fulcrum]

its a cheap cap ship

[lone bloom]

Well those can still do cargo or mining in terms of the odyssey

Nautilus just can do the mines

And maybe bit pew pew

[azure fulcrum]

oh right I think oddysey can only mine quantum fuel or something?

[lone bloom]

Yes

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

I mean

Thats still better than what the carrack can

[azure fulcrum]

have fun exploring 5 star systems in another 5 years lol

[azure fulcrum]

true XDD

lol they're the same price but one ship only costs UEC and the other one makes a lot of UEC

[lone bloom]

Well still the opinion if you like ships that size class

Perseus arrastra galaxy and youre Set for everything ingame

Except for Touring

Coping for salvage Variation for arra

[azure fulcrum]

a c2 carries 696 SCU of cargo

[lone bloom]

Yeah but you aint want it for the cargo

Arra has more cargo

You want it for basebuild and medical

[azure fulcrum]

damn even arra

576 SCU

[lone bloom]

Plus alot offgrid

Giant vehicle bay

[azure fulcrum]

so arra is a hauler too potentially

[lone bloom]

It absolutely is

But alot of it is exterior

On the roof

[azure fulcrum]

it's 30m longer than C2 tho

probably not as fast

[lone bloom]

But can refine

And mine

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats nuts

[lone bloom]

So you have all game loops with those three ships

Except for touring and maybe no salvage

[azure fulcrum]

The Arrastra has two reactors, allowing it to run two separate orders concurrently. They are larger than those found in the Expanse, allowing each order to contain a much higher quantity of goods.[3]

it makes the expanse obsolete and they're just rubbing it in your face lol

[lone bloom]

It makes the refine module of the galaxy obsolet aswell

[azure fulcrum]

xDD

[lone bloom]

Since its the same module

If you have a galaxy you should not Touch the refining module at all

Cant mine yourself

And cant store the refined goods since you loose majority of cargo space

[azure fulcrum]

sooo its just a bigger apollo or a hauler?

[lone bloom]

Its a better apollo

And basebuild

Yes

[azure fulcrum]

it doesn't have a basebuild module no?

[lone bloom]

Confirmed to get one

Was originally advertised with it

They reconfirmed it last year

[azure fulcrum]

I remember there being outrage and CIG changing their minds on it

[lone bloom]

Well because one dude said it wont get one, bespite it was originally advertised with it

And asked the Team about it

[azure fulcrum]

yeah lol

[lone bloom]

And noticed that he fucked up and it has a bld module

[azure fulcrum]

but now it was reconfirmed

[lone bloom]

And also a better apollo if module Equiped

Has all three beds instead of choosing only two Tiers of them

Like the apollo has to

(Even tho the others are obsolet aslong you have t1)

[azure fulcrum]

I haven't even looked at arrastra that seriously until now lol I never knew its 512 scu is placed on the exterior

[tawny fern]

yes

we LOVE jgalaxy

[azure fulcrum]

so you need 3 persons to operate the 3 remote mining lasers then a pilot

4 crew for arra

or potentially 2 if you just use one laser or get out of the pilot seat and use 2

Due to their size, the modules need to be swapped out at a location capable of that type of work, such as Cousin Crow’s shops, and will require the ship to be there for a period of time. Exact timings are still to be determined but, due to the relative ease of access (remove lower cap then exchange module), this should not be a lengthy operation providing all the required parts are at that location.

still sounds like a lot of work to change models for galaxy

oh and no pilot controlled weapons just missiles

even arrastra has piloted controlled weapons 2xs5 and 4xs4

[azure fulcrum]

at least it has 64 scu of cargo with the XXS hangar so that makes it fastly superior to apollo lol

the cargo lift for the cargo module only loads two 32 SCU containers at a time that doesn't sound very practical for a hauler

wait it will have a crane mounted tractor beam, possibly

there's a tractor beam here too huh

doesn't show in the spec sheet

[tawny fern]

idk

its a sexy ship

i want it

and multirole

i need it

[azure fulcrum]

yeah looks good at least

[round zodiac]

i only wanted galaxy for the refinery/cargo alternation... but arrastra...

[tawny fern]

arrastra, as far as function goes, is very very good

but personally i dont care for mining

does arrastra have manufacturing?

i could probably see myself buying mats and crafting stuff

[round zodiac]

arrastra just has ore refining

i would be pilot and engineering if i owned one

or piloting the Perseus overseeing the mining operation

me and those 10 friends i have that dont have hteir own ships to play in.,..

[azure fulcrum]

I mean arrastra has external 512 scu of cargo with tractor turret and 64scu internal with vehicle bay for 2 ursa sizedhas the mining and refining capability doing everything at once AND has pilot controlled guns unlike galaxy.. it just seems so much more capable

you can just go with a 2-4 crew and earn lots of cash, it having S3 mining lasers gives you an advantage over a prospector because you can crack tougher rocks too

I'm pretty sad I melted my ironclad chain I could've used it to get arrastra

[azure fulcrum]

technically you could just get a fabricator and tractor it in your arrastra cargobay make stuff on the spot. or you could take your arrastra to your land base and offload the matts to your fab factory there

the whole crafting thing is what makes me FOMO for arrastra the most tbh crafting sounds like fun

you get so much gameplay with one ship

[tawny fern]

eh

the base building module of the galaxy is something i'd use for sure

and definitely cargo

medical probably not, just throw a nursa in the back

[azure fulcrum]

BB module is nice its basically a better BLD

[tawny fern]

would be good to have when i dont feel like dealing with nursa things though

yeah'

[azure fulcrum]

but then you could just use a ground vehicle to build a base we'll probably get those soon

but a basebuilding ship will be better at it and can construct larger objects or something.. probably

[tawny fern]

probably

[azure fulcrum]

but you still need the matts heh and thats what arra does most cost efficiently

you need the most rare exotic ore to craft the best quality items

[round zodiac]

Yea. By 'just ore refining' I mean it can't manufacture anything. But it's amazing because of the cargo and vehicles and mining

[azure fulcrum]

like I said it could hold a fabricator in its cargohold, it could hold a basebuilding vehicle potentially. It can just use a fab from your land base.

[tawny fern]

mining and salvaging are just the most boring activities for me in star citizen

salvaging moreso, at least with mining theres a bit of tactics

but even then, i dont want a mining ship

[azure fulcrum]

yeah right now they're very boring and unrewarding but with crafting that could change

[tawny fern]

yeah maybe

if manufacturing is like other mmo's, where it's like a set it and forget it kind of thing

[azure fulcrum]

and we got this mining event coming next year for nyx

[tawny fern]

then i could probably enjoy that

if it's decently profitab le

oh god we do?

[azure fulcrum]

oh right refining takes a long time I wonder if you logout your arrastra refinery keeps working lol

[tawny fern]

yeah i wonder

[azure fulcrum]

yeah the thing where you have to crack an astroid with a giant beam you need to activate and then you can go inside and mine

hollow astroid thing

[tawny fern]

i've never done a mining event before so i wouldnt know

i'd rather just buy the ore lol

[azure fulcrum]

fair lol

[round zodiac]

I like salvaging as a dad job while listening to YouTube or podcast

I hate the precision of evil mining bar

[severe lynx]

probably wont use the docking ports anyway for stations

[tawny fern]

fair, its definitely a sit back and relax sort of gameloop

[fallow wharf]

Noooooooo

Aerodynamics while running

[shadow oasis]

Sure thèse are new? I feel like i saw them before

[shadow oasis]

I do see a nice combo in a HH and a Perseus. HH fighterscreen with Perseus blasting anything bigger that could threaten the HH

[severe lynx]

i wonder

if those S3s on the S8 turrets are bespoke

if not, you could probably swap them for S2 strife MDs to get some extra long-range firepower

[fluid plume]

After increased size I want Nova tonk sized cargo bay or I riot

[timid wind]

perseus on ptu tonight

im gonna say that as many times as it takes

[crystal sleet]

new candidate for the Perseus crucifix

[timid wind]

the what

[crystal sleet]

if you aint right about tonight🙂

[fallow wharf]

Brother is winning

[humble anvil]

Women

ETF weapon ranges, ballistic

Weapon ranges : laser

Tldr, they decreased combat distance greatly

Gave ballistics a slight advantage giving it more range

[tawny fern]

what does ETF mean

[humble anvil]

Evo test preview, idk why it's ETF

[tawny fern]

wtf those weapon ranges are insanely short

[lone bloom]

1300

Didnt they used to be like 3.2 km

Buuuut on the other hand, it means fighters are now even more supposed to get near ships so it only buffes larger ships

And cant kite on 2.2+km avoiding pdcs and turret fire

[humble anvil]

Kinda an oofie S5 being in that same ball park

[fallow wharf]

If I am not mistaken S6 was like 3km something

I might be totally wrong though

[humble anvil]

We can only hope that size 8 is a recognizable range increase

If we do you and think about it

So what that would be 1350 or 1400 for size 6

1400 or 1450 or 1500 for size 7

1450 or 1500 or 1600 for size 8

Plus 300 m

Eee

[severe lynx]

i doubt those are affected in the first place

i still think going with higher shot velocity on turreted weapons is the ideal course over this range thing but we'll see

[humble anvil]

S6-S8(?? Not affected?

[tawny fern]

ares suddenly relevant?

[severe lynx]

this looks like an attempt to change up fighter combat

[humble anvil]

I prayge Perseus is not apart of that balance

It could be specifically for fighters

[severe lynx]

there is no way they're making capital turrets have sub-2km range

most likely they wont be affected at all

[humble anvil]

They did the capacitor for multi crew ships

So I don't see why they want to be able to do weapon ranges or some kind of multiply for multi-crew

[coarse cloud]

Evocati test flight

[humble anvil]

Won't be able to do

Yeah

[coarse cloud]

how do the alt fires work when it comes to being on a gimple

Is it a diffrent fire keybind or like switchin got missiles

[humble anvil]

What if they're not alt fire

[coarse cloud]

I mean I guess it’s possible

Just would make sense

That they are

[humble anvil]

What if they're just a slave to the main gun

[severe lynx]

wouldnt it just be assigned on a different firegroup?

[humble anvil]

Yeah it would be a different fire group

Xdddd

Like you scroll wheel down and then it selects your mantis Gatling gun

That's what it would be

Unless

You target something and it auto shoots for you

What if they are basically PDC but it only works when the turret is powered on manually

And someone is sitting in the turret

What if that Gatling fire group, s3 remotes top n bottom are slaved to the pilot, including the forward facing s3 alt fire

Absolute Citizen

[humble anvil]

What if all 8 s3 are slaved forward

[coarse cloud]

They should have the remote s3 just shoot anything the pilot has targeted

[humble anvil]

There's a new PDC type

Surely right?

[desert gorge]

So your saying S1-S5 acctually needs to get close to cap ships now?

[coarse cloud]

1000%

[desert gorge]

And hopefully S6+ doesnt get shit on?

[coarse cloud]

It’s the only logical ship the have a new type of PDT

I mean it was in the OC

And it’s not like the new rsi salvage starter is gunna have PDCs

[humble anvil]

Perseus has to

It has to be getting a kit or

Something

Maybe those small Gatling on turret is target based auto firing

sub target powerplant. Auto fires

Fucking insane

[coarse cloud]

the real question I have

Is it these s3 are PDTs in some way

Can we swap them for any size 3s

Same with the alt fires on the main thrrets

[crystal sleet]

plus the way the PDCs are mounted imply then way be swapped out (circular base)

[coarse cloud]

i would love the stream of panther repeaters shredding fighters

[humble anvil]

Why I got 58 dupe cleaned NDB-30s on standby

[crystal sleet]

the remote turret guns appear to be Mantis gatlings

[coarse cloud]

I’ll just nick the ones of my countless exec ships after patch

[crystal sleet]

as well as the ones on the main turrets

[coarse cloud]

@humble anvil are those ones on the s8 confirmed to be mantis?

or is it just speculation

[humble anvil]

Guys remember the volt weapons it does damage to shield hull n does distortion damage

[crystal sleet]

ye

[humble anvil]

What if we get blue lightning beams

And a fkn lightning paint for Perseus

[crystal sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1392382891907878972/YamatoGIF01.gif

[humble anvil]

Ikr

[humble anvil]

No

Could be shiv s4 guns

[coarse cloud]

Yeah I had a feeling

[humble anvil]

Mantis could be placeholder

[crystal sleet]

the shiv s4 gatlings are just the revenant base with mantis barrels no?

[coarse cloud]

thundercloud paint plus lightning coming from the barrels

[humble anvil]

I foresee it

I consulted the orb

[coarse cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/jeanfaymas-jets-vtuber-ponder-orb-gif-11730247854651834537

Chris roberts will answer our prayers

[humble anvil]

Beam PDCs, Beam cannons, Beam s3s

Behold

[crystal sleet]

i was wrong about the shiv, but DAMN theyre unrecognisable from whatever they were made from to me

[coarse cloud]

I’m gunna just list my ideal Perseus launch and then we can compare to final result 😭

[desert gorge]

Do we have any i fos on those range changes for S6/7 for polaris and idris

[humble anvil]

No

[desert gorge]

How come people test s1-5 but not S6/7

O-o

[crystal sleet]

theyre 100% Mantis guns

or whatever Sakura Sun calls their s3 gatling

[humble anvil]

Gorgon Volt Beam Cannons When?

[coarse cloud]

Persussy dream specs:

weapons:

• 2x4 S8 ballistic - staggered fire cannon
• 2x s4/s3 gimble mounts ontop of each turret
• 2x s3 mounts for each remote turret
• 6x PDC
• 20x S6 Torpedoes

Components and Hull hp:

• 3x S3 cooler
• 1x S4 power plant
• 1x S3 Quantum drive
• 1x S4 bespoke sheild (650k quadrant)
• 2.5 million hull hp
  -Max speed 125 no boost 198 w boost
• somewhat decent turn rate
  Weapon kits:
  Perseus K kit
• Swaps the S8s with Smaller Idris lasers
• Missile PDCS cause why not
• This new paint they were talking about
• Special new laser cannons for all the remote/alt fire turrets

Perseus M kit:

• Swaps the S8 for Railguns
• New PDC variant
• same new lasers as the K kit for the alt fires/remote turrets
• another new paint

I may be the biggest copper

[coarse cloud]

they can’t disappoint me if even I know I’m delusional

[coarse cloud]

@lone bloom Do you approve?

sorry I forgot about your size 20 chin mount railgun

[humble anvil]

$1000 ship here we come

Can no longer rmt it, can no longer CCU to it

Go cig go

Then they can make it super powerful

[crystal sleet]

i swear if they do that before i can finish my ccu chain on my second Perseus

[coarse cloud]

if it reaches 1000usd I actually wouldn’t be mad

but it would be a odd move

Considering the only ships above 1000 are all at least double Perseus power and size

[crystal sleet]

but...

they gave the Perseus 6 PDCs and javelin config turrets with dual s8 and dual s3 hardppoints

the ship grew too

[brave night]

Those weapon range changes… are they coming for 4.4 or is it too hard to change some numbers for CIG this fast?

[humble anvil]

Do it for the Percy

Actually no it didn't grow

110m max

[crystal sleet]

probably just a little over 2/3 of the polaris length

what if theyre retconning the Polaris being the smallest cap ship...

[humble anvil]

Perseus can't go bigger than 110

Otherwise it cuts into other exhibits

[crystal sleet]

but thats just it, what if theyre actually thinking of doing just that?

[fallow wharf]

115

[crystal sleet]

120

[coarse cloud]

125

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/69-sign-lucifer-sixtynine-bidding-gif-23034067

[humble anvil]

It could be uhhh docked above and it's the spot for salvation

Salvation is supposed to be tiny tho

[coarse cloud]

or mabye the reason the IAE hall is in so early is so they can change the size

[humble anvil]

Like prospect size

[coarse cloud]

[humble anvil]

Could be 3 big holograms for the different Perseus kits

[crystal sleet]

ooooh, thatd be awesome

[humble anvil]

Perseus docked above

[crystal sleet]

wait docked where sorry?

[coarse cloud]

in one of orisons many docking ports

like the javelin tour

[crystal sleet]

ah

[coarse cloud]

But they ransomed

*rename

to Perseus port

[crystal sleet]

they could probably add in the first Orison landing pads instead of docking for a proper walk around

[coarse cloud]

They better shove our names on golden plaques and give us free Perseus kits for being this incredibly delusional dedicated

[crystal sleet]

81k channel messages

[humble anvil]

Copium unmatched

[coarse cloud]

I wish I discovered this thread earlier then I could call myself top coper

unfortunately a certain individual has sent 30k messages here

@humble anvil 👀

[crystal sleet]

dayum

[humble anvil]

I foresee them remove the tables above the Perseus

And setting up the kits

Iirc didn't see any npc up there

[crystal sleet]

would be a nice little twist

[coarse cloud]

I swear to god if we are forced to dock on landing I’m going to have a seizure

[azure fulcrum]

why did they half weapon ranges >.< this is nuts

just means the max SCM speed is gonna get halfed too 🤡

yogi wtf are you doing lol

[humble anvil]

Forcing combat to be tighter

Instead of individual ship tuning

But the problem is, now big multicrew have to conform. We'll see how it evolves

[azure fulcrum]

its so lazy

[humble anvil]

But atleast now fighters have to be in range

[azure fulcrum]

I can't fricking believe it

[azure fulcrum]

maybe this solves the issue of fighters kiting?

[humble anvil]

Well it's this, or individual tuning

Or changing the pip algorithm

And this broad sweep forces fighters closer

So they're either right next to you or they're eleutgub turret range

[azure fulcrum]

they just did this to nerf fighters lol

[humble anvil]

Forces ships that shouldn't be around hammergead to be in range if hh

[azure fulcrum]

😹

RIP light fighter meta

[humble anvil]

They shouldn't be anywhere near heavy gunboats, let alone a hammerhead

That's a heavy fighters job

And light fighters should be against other lights or bombers / heavy fighters

[azure fulcrum]

heavy fighters gonna suffer too

[humble anvil]

They need to reconsider s5

Bump S5 up a couple hundred

If they slow everything down with new flight model

Which they will

Or atleast make it more predictable

[azure fulcrum]

only goes up 50m from s4 to s5 that makes little senses

[humble anvil]

First pass iteration

See how it develops

Need Armor too

[azure fulcrum]

it should go up more every size tbh

[humble anvil]

They fucked up

Giving light fighters fkn s4

[azure fulcrum]

thats why it makes little sense

[humble anvil]

Now big ships like Star lancer has to conform

But it's not a fight ship so

Xddd

Connie's need knocked to s4 anyways

Hopefully they do this, then go back for gunboats, and apply modifiers

Imagine they tech preview military ships with Armor

Every other none combat ship gets fucked

[coarse cloud]

Light fighter w s4?

[humble anvil]

I geuss hornet is medium

Ye

[desert gorge]

My dump ass brain just realised somehin about he weapon range changes it litterly doesnt matter lol...
Due ti pdcs being S1 no? Or are odcs not affected by it

[humble anvil]

It changes alot

Either get into PDC range, or forced into turret range where pips will actually hit

[lone bloom]

Slower than pooplaris

[desert gorge]

Im still confused PDCs still getting outranged by S3 than it legit wont change anythi g if pdcs get changed to normal s1 range

S5 turrets dont hit shit on that range still

[fallow wharf]

I hope PDCs become a slight buff

[lone bloom]

I hope pdc are not affected, because that would mean that Torpedos will easily go through

[fallow wharf]

If it can destroy a torp, it should be able to minimalize the shields of small fighters

Maybe 33% decreased damage to ships instead of 50%

[desert gorge]

But the change RN seems irrelevant for me it feels like that at least ^^
Thibgs im missing:
PDC range
S6-7/8 range if S7-8 have same shit range goodbye to our dream

[lone bloom]

The only shit part is still that it wont be able to kill torps

If it really only has 900 meters to Do so

Especially since the pdc to torp damage got reduced aswell by 33%

[desert gorge]

Torp hp got reduced by 50%

[lone bloom]

Wasnt it 70% something?

[desert gorge]

It should be able to kill if the "idris" or "Perseus" is boosting away and pdcs can attack it

[lone bloom]

Missile got 50%

[desert gorge]

Maybe no idea

I dont read ptu bc its BS

[severe lynx]

I dont think PDCs are affected

would be wild to halve its damage and also remove like 55% of its range

[lone bloom]

Would render them almost useless

[azure fulcrum]

Talon, avenger, bucc, wolf 325a etc all have s4

[severe lynx]

if anything it would be a tremendous opportunity for the perseus

since if it'll also affect the polaris' or idris' weapons (if they apply to turrets), then they are forced to use their bespoke weapons or ordnance outside of 1.7km at best

[azure fulcrum]

But ye s1 pdc basically useeless now

[severe lynx]

i really doubt PDCs will get the range change

but you can never know

[azure fulcrum]

Range and dmg got halved

[severe lynx]

dmg yea but all we got about the range is this bit
but i doubt it also got the range change because it's not a traditional "weapon"

[humble anvil]

PDC may not be affected by change

These are broad and no stats were given on a weapon by weapon basis

We don't know the exact details of it all

It's not a traditional weapon so it may not be affected

Tech preview so very subject to change

[severe lynx]

S9 torps for reference go at 514 m/s
S10s at 270 m/s
and S12s at 230 m/s

if PDCs were to be nerfed to 900m, then they'd barely have time to intercept those
so i really doubt they're also part of the change

[humble anvil]

Yea

Think PDC are fine

Probably keep their range

[severe lynx]

so the perseus can get up to 341840 in torp damage

with 20x stalker Vs

[crystal sleet]

yes

[severe lynx]

that's like 86% of a single argos S9 torp

but thats fine

[humble anvil]

[foggy silo]

Bro is on max copium but i want this to be True

[humble anvil]

I don't think it's far off lol

[severe lynx]

i'd expect the perseus to have similar equipment to the HH

[humble anvil]

You'd expect but doubt it

Not anymore

[coarse cloud]

More sheild hp surely

[severe lynx]

if i were to dose on copium a little bit more I might expect 3x S3 shields

but that's probably pushing it

[humble anvil]

Sitting in between the hammer and Polaris. In this day n soon future S3s will be brought down to S2

[coarse cloud]

nah bespoke s4 trust

[humble anvil]

The gap will be lessened

[severe lynx]

3x cooler seems more realistic than 3x shields given the ballistics focus

[coarse cloud]

It already has 3 coolers

[humble anvil]

It does? Lol

[coarse cloud]

I swear it does

[severe lynx]

concept's got these

[humble anvil]

But yeah expect that, but don't draw out the possibility of changes because they've already done and the way they're going... Wouldn't be surprised if HH and Perseus get bespoke capital shields to facilitate their military role (150k shield)

[crystal sleet]

if they fit a third powerplant into the paladin, they can find space for a third shield in the Perseus

[coarse cloud]

in the may leaks when we were told about s8

I swear they said we get a 3rd cooler

might be bugging though

[humble anvil]

Already outdated

[crystal sleet]

wait wrong one

[coarse cloud]

I was about to say what

[humble anvil]

Carrack, HH, Perseus gonna get stonks, trust

[severe lynx]

military A power plants as stock

[timid wind]

i can just rename my live folder to ptu and vice versa if i want to switch between ptu and live, right?

[coarse cloud]

do you have the may one

[timid wind]

that won't cause any problems?

[coarse cloud]

Yh then verify game files

[timid wind]

do you do it?

[crystal sleet]

i assume this is the only finished Perseus art from teh artist, the other one i know of is this one

[timid wind]

i wont do it yet because i still want to earn some money on live so i can actually afford to use the perseus when it drops

i only have like 100k now

havent played for a hot minute

[coarse cloud]

If I bother to download the PTU then most of the time yh

[crystal sleet]

im only downloading PTU if Perseus is in it

[severe lynx]

now that i think of it

its interesting that the nautilus gets 3x S3 shields

[lone bloom]

Don't forget that CIG said they decided to up the components on most ships starting with the Zeus release

And Perseus, HH, Carrack etc were all released or concepted way before that time

(Zeus having 4 and 3 shields, Starlancer Tac also having quite stonk shields compared to other in its size and so on)

Would not surprise me if they decide to give the Hammerhead a third S3 shield and Perseus either three if not even 4 S3 shields because of the same reason

[severe lynx]

going to be hard to manage the power though

[lone bloom]

Not on Perseus

Perseus doesn't need many weapon pips

HH would struggle

Without the JS powerplants ofc

[severe lynx]

using the caterpillar to demonstrate
yea i guess it could work if the perseus only has ballistics like the mantises and the 6 PDCs

[lone bloom]

Dunno if caterpillar is a good example

nvm

you put FR shields in there

thought its S2 because 2 standard pips

you want Parapet Industrial Grade A on larger ships

until they buff the mil a shields

Thats 4 base pips per shield

[severe lynx]

yea its the same usage if i use the starfarer gemini instead

but i think it'd get an extra weapon pip or two due to PDCs

right now i only got 6x mantises on the turrets (but since they're ballistic, more wont add to the pips anyway)

[lone bloom]

Hammerhead with full Mil A and Parapet shields +2 free pips for a third shield

[severe lynx]

ship would most likely come with military C power plants

[lone bloom]

Thats how I would run it

nvm

its even stock plant

wait

with JS you could easily support 4 shields

[coarse cloud]

Realistically who is keeping the Gatling gus though

If they are swappable

[lone bloom]

nobody thats why I put 2 pips into weapons

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

with JS and if it only gets 3 shields

you could wait

Even do that

and if you really need extra pips for engines could turn off life support aswell, only works if entire crew has EVA / closed suits tho

So 3-4 Shields absolutely would cook especially assoon you have Mil A Powerplants

Thats 271.200 shield HP btw

Almost same HP as the Hammerhead has as Hull HP in total

[severe lynx]

if i were to go with the original concept loadout and have 8 panthers replacing all the mantises
then i'd have this

less power on coolers if they dont have a use yet

[lone bloom]

you technically need lifesupport

unless its a short fight ig

Personally would also say, the Engine and Weapon pips kinda depend on the Perseus what you do encounter

If you encounter a capital I would absolutely go with 1 pip to weapon and full to engine

So you can hug its blindspot easily

Since the S3 won't do shit either way

[coarse cloud]

Christmas Perseus gone wrong

Credit- my fav ai

[lone bloom]

So technically you would want this "standard" loadout for basic all arounder encounter (+2 free pips for third shield, if no third shield just put it to engines)

Powermanagement with 2 JS is really good lol

[lone bloom]

Would not surprise me if they would release a christmas skin similar to this ngl xD

[coarse cloud]

hmmm

idk if I’d be happy about that

[severe lynx]

https://youtu.be/oPO7lm84LWc?si=DE9ZehaNSBUCiLAE&t=76

would be fun to have that boom when you fire the gun

[lone bloom]

Imagine the olympus paint

the one the spirit series has

[coarse cloud]

id increase star citizen funding by a couple thousand

[brave night]

Do you think they'll release the Percy on PTU within the next few days? or was their internal testing enough? (hopium kicks in hard rn)

[lone bloom]

you can trust neither if they will release it to PTU or not

their internal testing is never enough

[azure fulcrum]

Dumb question but isnt their internal testing still ongoing?

[lone bloom]

no

they said it was "successfull" so indicating its finished

[foggy beacon]

hopefully by the end of week

[azure fulcrum]

Need rsi light and medium fighters

[foggy beacon]

so they have a few days of testing before releasing to live

[azure fulcrum]

With the etf changes they prob have to test percius again

[lone bloom]

I drawed a upgraded version from this

[azure fulcrum]

Rlly?

[azure fulcrum]

Man some of the rsi concept works are insanely good

[lone bloom]

2x S6 with dual S2 or S3 turret for co pilot

on rails

basically a better scorpius

[azure fulcrum]

Im a sucker for sharp angles looks so goood

[lone bloom]

ironically i called this the Meteor

before the meteor was released

or announced

[timid wind]

this is perseus update for ptu

[azure fulcrum]

🙀

[timid wind]

[lone bloom]

Mega cope

[timid wind]

i like the high

[lone bloom]

they probably reading that in the chat here and say

"ha - noooope"

[timid wind]

they like

[lone bloom]

I mean if it should drop any new ships to the PTU IAE hall it will get either way posted instantly into leak channel or PTU channel

[timid wind]

perseus flyable

trust

[lone bloom]

[timid wind]

when is the next sneak peek?

[lone bloom]

always friday

every week

[timid wind]

ok

[lone bloom]

so only one single sneak peak before IAE

apparantly thats the list of ships that are rn able to convert to Engineering gameplay

[jolly acorn]

Guessing the MR that they meant ES

[lone bloom]

likely

[coarse cloud]

unless we are secretly getting MR?

[timid wind]

i highly doubt they're gonna roll out engineering if all ships aren't supported

or if they do, all the PvP kids will be mad as hell

[coarse cloud]

also @lone bloom I’m starting to think that Perseus kits might not be that much cope

Was looking around the IAE hall, the pedestal for the Perseus looks way too cramped

[timid wind]

also why is it tilted

[coarse cloud]

Not unusual for them to do that

[timid wind]

but like are you not supposed to be able to get in and look around

how is that happening when its sideways

[lone bloom]

well if it has grown to 106 lenght

it has 2 meters space front and back

[coarse cloud]

yeah it’s way too cramped

also where did u get 106 from

[lone bloom]

light model, and i was already in PTU measuring it with rustle

[coarse cloud]

me begging for it to be bigger

[timid wind]

if CIG is a british company, why do they operate in US time

[coarse cloud]

They don’t

[lone bloom]

also Mantis measurement from self aware also got 106

[timid wind]

then why do all the updates, roadmap news etc. stuff drop in the middle of the night

[coarse cloud]

how did you go about it?

[coarse cloud]

I wouldn’t say the always do, but that’s a time that both works for US and UK

CIG will have people working late hours in UK to collaborate with US departments and vice versa

[coarse cloud]

how did u go about it?

[lone bloom]

wdym

[coarse cloud]

how did u measure it

[lone bloom]

just standing on one side of the area and party member on the other side

its exactly 110 meters

[coarse cloud]

hmmmm

so if that’s where it is largest feasible size is 106

[timid wind]

theres no other spot for it so its there or its not anywhere

unless its hanging from the ceiling or something idk

[lone bloom]

likely

and cargo bay got smoller

very likely

[coarse cloud]

ssshhh

[normal fossil]

I don’t see why it would get smaller

[timid wind]

well we shall see tonight

[coarse cloud]

im genuinely fucking melting this shit if the cargo bay has got smaller and it just gets shut on by the Polaris

[coarse cloud]

bro coping for Perseus in PTU?

[normal fossil]

It’s very unlikely it got smaller I would be shocked

[timid wind]

yes new ptu build cooking rn

[coarse cloud]

[timid wind]

it has percy

[coarse cloud]

wait actually

[lone bloom]

It got smaller

100%

[coarse cloud]

RAVIT STOP 😭

I don’t want to hear it

[timid wind]

Ravit is a troll

[normal fossil]

It would be the first ship that would happen to expect maybe the hull series. It’s more likely that they would just increase the size of the whole ship.

[lone bloom]

Thats why i always been correct so far?

[timid wind]

ur not correct about percy not being in this evenings ptu build

[lone bloom]

Trust worthy source also already said its smaller than we expect

[lone bloom]

Never said it won't never said it will

Just said its alot of cope

[timid wind]

maybe it's still just 100m

[lone bloom]

Either way - Cargo bay has max dimensions of 15x15 meters

lift likely 10x13

[coarse cloud]

So how much SCU?

[normal fossil]

Percy would definitely fit unless it’s bigger than the hammerhead now

[coarse cloud]

I thought we were saying that the Perseus wasn’t going to be there

[lone bloom]

well will still fit 32 containers

at the very minimum i would say 4 32

[lone bloom]

No?

[coarse cloud]

okay I just beg we don’t get Zeus CL situation

[coarse cloud]

but Perseus kits

[lone bloom]

why would it not be there?

the kits do not change its size

[coarse cloud]

it’s in your username

3x holograms

Base and two kits

[lone bloom]

3x landinggears

Hologram plate looks different

[coarse cloud]

me rn

[lone bloom]

also what zeus CL situation?

I am always speaking off grid

no doubt the on grid is terrible

[coarse cloud]

a 128 scu bay that can get only 1 scu boxes insude

[lone bloom]

nah

don't forget that the lift is larger than the Ursa

and a 32 container is just slightly bigger than a ursa

[azure fulcrum]

To show off the broadside cannons

[lone bloom]

also wouldn't see much of the ship if it wasn't angled

[normal fossil]

I wanna know how they get the ships in there in the first place lol

[lone bloom]

Space Magic

[normal fossil]

Is it like a missile silo roof?

[raven jetty]

Pop the roof off like a bottle cap.

[lone bloom]

No they build the ships in there and then unbuild them after

[timid wind]

remove roof or bring ships in pieces

[lone bloom]

[normal fossil]

Oh yes, space Lego

[azure fulcrum]

Its carebear handwavium teleportation

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/its-leviosa-not-leviosar-hermione-granger-emma-watson-harry-potter-gif-18243387

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-roberts-video-game-designer-hands-gif-17953157

[coarse cloud]

I wanna know how my body gets reconstructed inside metal armor when I respawn

[lone bloom]

get pooped into it like slime

[coarse cloud]

not to mention putting live ammunition and cocking the weapon on respawn

like bro the vandull aren’t camping our beds

[lone bloom]

but yk they will remove that right?

that you respawn with your equipment

[normal fossil]

Probably that’s what the suit lockers are for

[lone bloom]

Its just a temporarily thing so carebears don't cry losing their plenge stuff

until crafting

Thats why medical gameplay is fully unneccessary until then

ok guys

we cooking

@timid wind you were right

Perseus coming next build

today

[timid wind]

TOLD YOUR ASSES

[lone bloom]

I never said no

[normal fossil]

Yooooo

[timid wind]

TRUST

THATS WHY HE DA GOAT

[lone bloom]

@azure fulcrum @coarse cloud

(rustle got already pinged on org server)

[azure fulcrum]

Yoooooo

[lone bloom]

Today is the day

[azure fulcrum]

We percing?

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

Fucking today????

[lone bloom]

well nvm

[azure fulcrum]

Omg Im taking a day off tomorrow

[lone bloom]

was already asking if its fake news or not

[timid wind]

aww

i was so pumped

[azure fulcrum]

Its not fake news hes CIG right?

[lone bloom]

someone changed his message

[coarse cloud]

yesyeyysysysyaysyysysy

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[coarse cloud]

bro

pings me

Then tells me

[lone bloom]

that message came later

xD

[azure fulcrum]

Laaaamr

[coarse cloud]

“Cig capping”

[azure fulcrum]

Fk

[timid wind]

nah

its still coming fuck y'all

[lone bloom]

Pipeline Admin says friday

Likely

[timid wind]

i mean on friday ill at least have time to play

[lone bloom]

(aka pretty much what I said previously too that it will be either tomorrow, or friday)

[coarse cloud]

ravit I’m going to throw you off a cliff

[lone bloom]

Its not my fault they spread fake news in pipeline xD

[timid wind]

i was kinda sad about that fake pic since i wouldve had a day off tomorrow but a work thing came up

[coarse cloud]

SOMT EVER jumpscare me like that again

[lone bloom]

Next time I ain't gonna ping you fuck you xD

even if its in PTU

[coarse cloud]

I take it back

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-cat-meme-nuh-uh-cat-gif-9271722470286310300

[coarse cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yes-agree-nod-nodding-gif-17512051

[lone bloom]

Now moved Perseus back until 19th

[coarse cloud]

I need to check something the next time I’m at my computer

[azure fulcrum]

Ughh

[coarse cloud]

it’s so incredibly speculatory I don’t wanna excite people

[azure fulcrum]

Friday pls

[timid wind]

why dont i have my loaner polaris on the ptu?

[uneven thistle]

tell me anyway

[azure fulcrum]

Of course i have to work 70hrs next week

[uneven thistle]

loaners don't go to PTU

[lone bloom]

Because it never got updated on the PTU

[coarse cloud]

cause CIG think u will enjoy the hammerhead more

[timid wind]

i only have some ships i havent owned in a long time

[uneven thistle]

Then enjoy those

[coarse cloud]

Corsair and hull C perchance?

[timid wind]

some never

[coarse cloud]

pretty sure those were given to all

[timid wind]

and zeus and prospector and aurora and a bunch of others

some ive never owned

[lone bloom]

Still gonna likely take a look at todays PTU patch IAE hall MAYBE we will have luck, maybe also some other ships appear who knows