Perseus Pals

[coarse galleon]

That's garbage for a ship like the Percy.

Same shield like a TAC, for a ship much bigger ship and double the price

They need to add some kind bespoke, otherwise people will be pretty angry

[fallow wharf]

At least until armor gets into the game

[severe lynx]

HH also has 2xS3

[lone bloom]

Hh is also significantly outdated

They already said last year that the New Standard will be more shield components (see zeus es for example) and that ships will recieve more components with their Gold standard

Wouldnt suprise me if HH gets 3xs3 or 4xs3

[fallow wharf]

But HH is not meant to be durable

[severe lynx]

yea but i think shields wouldnt be much of an issue when armor comes

hopefully

[lone bloom]

When armor comes

Aka never

It was last year in tech preview, they didnt Talked about engineering after, until now again tech preview a whole year after

And that only includes v0 armor which wont make a big difference to the current HP

[fallow wharf]

It’s actually not too far away since they announced that they want to make the idris m railgun available as upgrade for idris p once armor gets introduced

Money wins

[lone bloom]

Dunno what the m kit has to Do with engineering

At all

[lone bloom]

Even if that should be the case, its still v0 armor

Aka still no protection against small arm fire

V0 = ship part armor (HP) has to be destroyed before being able to hit components, ballistics can penetrante, but it cant tell the difference between a laser s1 and ballistic s5 damage wise
V1= still similar to v0 just that it can potentially shrug off smaller Arms and probably includes maelstrom for visuall armor destruction

Aka until v1 were stuck with what we have now lol

Since v0 only comes with engineering

[humble anvil]

Aegis is a big shield user

[timid wind]

box missions

although they dont exist anymore

[severe lynx]

i do bunkers to loot red white boxes

so technically they're box missions for me

[lone bloom]

6 scu cargo haul missions

[serene plank]

what loot boxes? 😂

[severe lynx]

fortunately they're not affected by the weird issue that CZs, PAFs, OLPs, and onyx facilities get

[serene plank]

really? so the small bunkers?

with elevator?

[severe lynx]

i keep getting truckloads of atzkavs and railguns from them

[severe lynx]

yea the one with a bunch of turrets

[serene plank]

yea, them. which literally takes like 5-10 minutes to omplete or so... ok... will chek...

did you get some armor there or just some weapons...

[severe lynx]

theres armor as well but they're pretty eh

like recolors of orc-mkx or some old armor

bunker HRT target most of the time wears the oni mask

[fallow wharf]

What bunkers

[severe lynx]

lost and found, good old times, the ones scattered around planets (those are the ones i know since im always at arccorp)

i take the northrock HRT missions and always get those two

[fallow wharf]

I want to grind a truck load of atzkavs but idk where would be the best place

[severe lynx]

they changed the red crates to these

[lone bloom]

Remember guys, today we will (copium) get the likely last 'official' sneak peak for Perseus

[fallow wharf]

Not Friday?

[lone bloom]

Monthly report

[fallow wharf]

Will try them out thank you

[fallow wharf]

Ohh true true

Now I am hyped FML

Curse you

[lone bloom]

and monthly report will have almost guaranteed a percy sneak peak

aka full picture of the exterior likely

since apollo had it too

[fallow wharf]

almost guaranteed sneak peak

[lone bloom]

I mean there are 6 (?) other ships they could use

but those are better of in the weekly sneak peak thing ig

like the alpha wolf for example

[humble anvil]

@lone bloom

Come on Baby ... !!! Give us the goodies

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[tawny fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1370950128046702592/S8PerseusPDCs.gif

[humble anvil]

TODAY IS THE DAY GENTLEMAN

WE SHALL SEE OUR BABY IN 4K

NO MORE SHALL WE SUFFER

SOON WE WILL BE ABLE TO NAV RAM POOR TINY TITAN'S

SOON! THE ENGINE BLOCKS OF EVERY SHIP SHALL BE VANGUISHED

FOR THE PERSEUS IS MIGHTY

[tawny fern]

[solid anvil]

because youve said that, they will say "perseus done" and leave it there

[coarse cloud]

LONG LIVE THE PERSEUS

when will the release the damn report?

[solid anvil]

few hours i think? seems to be mid day for me

[desert gorge]

Amen

[azure fulcrum]

Could be between 3 and 6.5 hours from now

[coarse cloud]

some real shit

[desert gorge]

why wouldnt it work tho xD

i mean yes science

but still it should

stacking 2 idris ontop of Kraken just to transport

[lone bloom]

Because they have to be inside of the shield bubble of said ship

And cap is simply too big

[desert gorge]

ah ok i did not know that

thought the ships ontop arnt protected

[lone bloom]

They are, but not if they are too large

[raven jetty]

Stack Krakens. A ship, shipping ships, shipping shipping Ships.

[lone bloom]

I mean otherwise it would work with a 890 too

[lone bloom]

but it does not

I think the biggest dissappointing ship will be the endeavor tho

[azure fulcrum]

Galaxy

Bmm

All pretty good contenders

[lone bloom]

I mean Galaxy isn't that good to beginn with

BMM is a very luxus huge cargo ship

Endeavor is supposed to do so much stuff - were the majority isn't even ingame yet, nor they talked about it in years

Like farming for example

or its huge radar dish

[azure fulcrum]

Most of the stuff will never be ingamw

[lone bloom]

Thats why im saying it will be the most dissappointing ship xD

simply because all its stuff is either outdated, or not neccessary for players

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah i agree

Bmn is a close second tho

[lone bloom]

while the stuff the BMM offers will be soonish ingame (player - player trading and ofc cargo)

and Galaxy stuff is everything ingame or also soonish (refining and basebuild are the only two that aren't ingame)

[lone bloom]

I mean its major focus point is cargo hauling

don't see how you could dissappoint there

[tawny fern]

If bmm supports an enhanced player trading system

My god

[lone bloom]

its supposed to

kraken too so far ik

[tawny fern]

Oh my god

[lone bloom]

I mean both have a basar

tho BMM is the obvious way more luxury variant

[tawny fern]

I dont remember what cig said about improving the player trading experience

[lone bloom]

Terminals

[tawny fern]

Was it like adding a kiosk in the existing stations?

[lone bloom]

No

Shop terminals (like those from stations and shops) on your own basebuild area

and you as player can choose what to sell in there, and it wil be connected to your local inventory

and for how much you wanna sell it

if player X buys it, it will be transfered to their local inventory

on your base

Probably BMM and Kraken will need something like a mini freight elevator inside of their hangar for that case

or inventory access

[tawny fern]

And ships will support that but be mobile as apposed to locked to a stationary base?

And by ships i mean bmm kraken

[lone bloom]

well yes

[tawny fern]

Hmmmmm

[lone bloom]

Mobile trader

But ofc thats significantly more risky than having a base shop

Its way more easier to raid a ship

than a base thats unraidable

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-think-of-it-gif-12729650

[tawny fern]

Yea i mean, just need a storage thats ungriefable

Thats why, if i could choose, just sell stuff from a major station

[lone bloom]

I mean nobody with a brain would set up a shop in a system like pyro with actual valuable stuff

[tawny fern]

Yea

Dude

[lone bloom]

Bases are also unraidable depending on where you set them up

[tawny fern]

Hoarding loot and selling to players is BY FAR my most enjoyable game loop

[lone bloom]

aka also nobody can take your stuff in the local inventory unless you sell it

[tawny fern]

Oh

[lone bloom]

It just has to be a high security system

Castra for example

I think stanton will be one too temporarily until there are more high sec systems (terra)

[tawny fern]

Galaxy sounds perfect then lmao, build my base, then haul everything around afterwards

[lone bloom]

pretty much

Galaxy still has shit cargo volume tho

for its size

[tawny fern]

🤷‍♂️

[lone bloom]

500+ ish with cargo module

Ironclad has 3x that

[tawny fern]

True but

I guess i just enjoy mediocrity in every role

[lone bloom]

the good part about the shops they talked about will also be active if you're offline

and will work across all servers worldwide

[tawny fern]

Yeah that aounds like insane qol

Which is bananas because its just a regular mmo trading system lol

[lone bloom]

i mean, it means that if your shop is quite known (and safe against raiders) can become quite populated

[tawny fern]

We have the most archaic unnecessarily convoluted solution to player trading

[lone bloom]

instead of just giving a "global market" on stations like other MMO's xD

[tawny fern]

Oh yeah

That would be cool

[coarse cloud]

I can send gifs now ty mods

[lone bloom]

tbf i like their variant more, encourages more direct player contact

and actually requires you to know where and how to get stuff

[tawny fern]

Uex is the only reason im able to be on low pop shards all the time lol

[lone bloom]

like "Yeah I know a person that sells that, their base is at castra at xyz you just have to go there land there and buy it"

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[coarse cloud]

for perseus purpose only

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1430591085431750676/Perseus_lizard_button.gif

[tawny fern]

I think im set on the galaxy

[lone bloom]

Well, that took a while to appear on the Space Engineers 2 workshop

[tawny fern]

I literally never mine so, as incredibly useful as the arrastra may seem, i probably wont use it much

[lone bloom]

well mining will be likely neccessary for basebuilding and crafting tho

unless you buy it from other players

[tawny fern]

I’d rather just do the latter

Mining is just

Same with salvaging lol

[lone bloom]

So, you gonna go plenge galaxy?

[tawny fern]

I think so, i already have a chain set up

Theres nothing else that really interests me, liberator is pretty cool

But not dorito cool

I just need the galaxy ccu at iae

[lone bloom]

well then i know who to ask if i wanna build my base and don't find anyone with L or XL drones at the start of basebuilding

[tawny fern]

What other basebuilding ships are there? Besides the starlancer

And the pioneer

[lone bloom]

none

there are only two other vehicles .- but not ships

the one rover with 2 M drones

and the small building pod with i think 1 S drone

[tawny fern]

Oh lol

[lone bloom]

Even tho all of those become very fast.... unneccessary

Because of the Building Tower that also has L drones

aka if you know at least one person that can build that tower with their drones for you - you get L drones yourself and set up your base yourself

[tawny fern]

Base building is still a ways out right

They said galaxy starts after the perseus is finished, so im expecting galaxy release next year, probably without the finished basebuilding module

[lone bloom]

not really

showed gameplay of it last year citizenscon

Aka the full basebuild stuff from placing down buildings to power them to decorate them

[tawny fern]

When basebuilding releases, and player trading is supported

[lone bloom]

2030

[tawny fern]

🫠

[azure fulcrum]

We'll probably get a grand bazaar app in mobi where you can list goods then you can meet up and trade wherever or maybe even let it be delivered to their hangar inventory

[humble anvil]

Monke is happe

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-on-my-way-omw-quarantine-going-out-gif-17086064

[tawny fern]

Yeah heres a known issue

No perseus leaks

[lone bloom]

critical bug, needs immediat fix

[lone bloom]

when perseus sneak peak cig

[foggy silo]

when when

i want it NOW

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-eric-cartman-craig-tucker-lola-south-park-gif-22863637

[tawny fern]

We’re at 71k posts

100k before 2026???

[lone bloom]

i mean afterall we will spam percy pictures in here aswell and the storm of leaks is just infront of us

so likely

[midnight crypt]

Only 20% is just Perseus. 80% is random shit. When BF6 came out for like a week that’s all what I seen in here

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-ok-and-gif-21608135

[tawny fern]

I remember that

Those were good times

[lone bloom]

Had to cope about something if not percy because CIG is starving us with no Percy stuff

[tawny fern]

[lone bloom]

also kinda expected the monthly report to be there 1 hour ago but apparantly not

[azure fulcrum]

ETA 2-3.5 hours

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

back to watching lucifer for 2-3.5 hours ig

[azure fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/Rc_HrPu4Cl0?si=E9DchfEs1w91fC2t

[coarse cloud]

Someone pls ping me when we get the monthly report

[lone bloom]

Ping /j

[azure fulcrum]

Pls me too

Plzzz

[azure fulcrum]

If pooplaris grey ill be very sad

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

I hope some of the CIG devs looked into this channel at this time or on the spectrum post and said "hold up we can't do the grey guys"

I mean whatever the paint will be on todays sneak peak (coping there is one)

it will be the release paint

it won't be a work in progress base paint

[azure fulcrum]

O yes this is it

[humble anvil]

Lol

Are they cooking or are they cooked

Find out soon in this monthly report

[timid wind]

ayo

where da monthly report

[lone bloom]

that sounds like a titel

"Find out soon, are they cooked or did they cook - this week in our monthly report"

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-away-cartoon-eating-cartoon-gif-14206145866551753880

[timid wind]

did you eat it?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[timid wind]

you big fatty

[lone bloom]

Trust me you did not want to see it

I did you a favor

[timid wind]

what did it say?

[lone bloom]

You don't wanna know

[timid wind]

"perseus cancelled"

"get fucked"

[lone bloom]

Perseus delayed until ILW

Due to engineering and ballistic ammo reloading mechanics

[timid wind]

yeah sure

no but really its so late

where is it

[humble anvil]

its IAE :V Lighting says so

[fallow wharf]

What time is sneak peak

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-16571442244261766105

Just taken from the SC general chat

(fanmade ofc)

[tawny fern]

Lmao jesus

[lone bloom]

and you would absolutely buy it

we all would lol

[tawny fern]

I would absolutely buy it

Tribal perseus

Unga bunga big gun good

[lone bloom]

big dakka

[coarse cloud]

montly report when

[azure fulcrum]

Imminent between now and 2.5h

[lunar inlet]

Why use many word when few word do trick

[lunar inlet]

^

Gib, CIG

[azure fulcrum]

Mass melting of percius incoming

[lone bloom]

mass heretics

[midnight crypt]

Monthly Report:
-Perseus made to look more like Polaris
-Ironclad moved out of gray box
-kraken final stages of white box
-arrastra goes into production
-galaxy goes into production
-thought about the endeavor for 5 minutes the passed month

[lone bloom]

and BMM whitebox files burned to ash

[tawny fern]

Big gun shoot big ship me need now

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[foggy silo]

Spam me when perseus sneak peak drop

[azure fulcrum]

ETA 2 HOURS FOR DREAM GETTING SHATTERED WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED BOYS

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/edward-jackson-edward-jackson-x-alligator-steve-irwin-crocodile-alligator-gif-1368357571653281934

[azure fulcrum]

Its about that time when expactations meet reality

[humble anvil]

no perseus

[coarse cloud]

bro

when montly report

[humble anvil]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20874-Star-Citizen-Monthly-Report-October-2025

Elsewhere, the RSI Perseus had a large-scale developer and QA playtest this month to check its robustness and intent in combat, which was a great success.

@lone bloom

[lone bloom]

No sneakpeak?

[humble anvil]

correct

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-leonardo-dicaprio-shutter-island-shutter-gif-3849938689344114841

[tawny fern]

Wheres the ai blades

Oh god

Oh god oh god

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-boss-smiling-friends-good-night-serious-look-allan-red-gif-1361353428424919826

[humble anvil]

Elsewhere, the RSI Perseus had a large-scale developer and QA playtest this month to check its robustness and intent in combat, which was a great success.

So aint entirely bad but also never saw this ever for any ship ever

[foggy beacon]

let's hope by robustness they meant tanky

[humble anvil]

This Friday we'll get a sneak peak surely

so this tells me they're not going to release perseus untill day of patch

[solid anvil]

i like how the report says they just been playing with it haha

[humble anvil]

lol

we might get 1 day before PU release

otherwise; its just going to be a secret until then from the sounds of it

because they QA test it, they dont need us

[humble anvil]

:/

[solid anvil]

good news really

[lone bloom]

Well it still might appear in the files

[humble anvil]

they have no reason to put any perseus files in

gonna day 1 sale, with all the hype. they let it leak now gg its over

[lone bloom]

But I don't wanna wait 2 whole more weeks for perseus stuff

https://tenor.com/view/aba-gif-13604584884647867512

[humble anvil]

yerp this is where optimisim meets reality

[tawny fern]

Theres a ton of people that have never even heard of the perseus

Cig’s gonna cash in on the fomo extra hard

[lone bloom]

how can people not have heard of percy

[round zodiac]

yae, we dont shut up abotu it

[tawny fern]

People that arent in the sc discord and dont use reddit

[round zodiac]

normies?!

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-surprised-gif-5843462

[tawny fern]

People that use vent and aol

[lone bloom]

But I also talk about Percy ingame

so that cannot be it

[azure fulcrum]

[humble anvil]

someone sold perseus with thundercloud pint for 300$

man

what a deal

[solid anvil]

true lol

i was like that

[azure fulcrum]

Nothing ever positive came from CIG trying to hide things of us but ok

[solid anvil]

and then the c2 dropped

[solid anvil]

i never recovered....

[tawny fern]

Theres a lot of ships in the pipeline that people are unaware of

That combined with the spend spend spend mentality

[azure fulcrum]

Theyre hiding perseus from us simply because they know we'll complain

[agile kayak]

LOL "internal testing" aka "we wanted to gate its release for iae, this is our excuse"

[humble anvil]

nothing was done on the ship

[agile kayak]

marketing knows its a cash cow, so they used the extra dev time to "test" how to min max its profit stats

[humble anvil]

it was finished last month

[agile kayak]

cant have the same visual of last years big polaris display without a big ship to release

[lone bloom]

usually maxing profits would mean hype the shit out of it, and not keep it a fucking nuclear secret

unless they fucked up

[azure fulcrum]

It means perseus is done and instead of further refinement like a better looking skin or bridge they just abandoned the project and leave it to rot

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-it's-so-over-its-over-its-so-over-we're-back-gif-16588749771587271250

we're right now at 12

the only thing that gives me the ick is what they mean "check its robustness and intent in combat"

did they test it now against a hammerhead? and therefor it has shit HP?

or did they test it against a Polaris or Idris?

knowing CIG its the first one

[tawny fern]

Thats what i dont understand

Isnt marketing 101 to hype and garner interest

[lone bloom]

it should

[tawny fern]

Cig doesnt do that for their ships

[lone bloom]

you don't build up Fomo or hype around something

if you keep it a secret

i mean, there can't be fomo if people don't know what it is

• there can't be hype for the same reason

Sure percy is more known than most other concept ships likely.... and we may be the reason lmao

but that does not change the fact

[azure fulcrum]

at this point it should be very apparent that the reason they chose not to show anymore of the perseus is because of the negative feedback they have gotten from the few pictures they already shown us

its just damage control

if perseus really was that great of a work of art they would've shown us more of it

not even being emotional here or a negative nancy

it does not make sense from a marketing stance not to show more

[humble anvil]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50259/thread/recent-qa-dev-playtest-rsi-perseus

[lone bloom]

you know they won't answer

If they decided to not go deeper into that in the monthly report neither posted a picture about percy...

and they easily could have choosed rooms inside of the percy that aren't controversal

engineers room for example

otherwise there you would have seen the shields or at least the amount

Mess room

[azure fulcrum]

this is a bad omen

hate to be that guy but

[lone bloom]

no it actually is lol

[round zodiac]

another staff on the thread already XD

[lone bloom]

Because all sneak peaks so far they got shit on

the only sneak peak where they did not got shit on was the elevator one

[azure fulcrum]

hahahah yeah

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[round zodiac]

clearly, we are too obsessed and nitpicky

they even had to explain ITS NOT A CAPTAINS CHAIR

[lone bloom]

he wasn't staff this morning

he just switched teams

traitor

[round zodiac]

Redeye is news guy isnt he

[lone bloom]

yes

[round zodiac]

ye

[azure fulcrum]

maybe they'll release a concept for another heavy gunship that has even more firepower than percy

[humble anvil]

i did something illegal

[azure fulcrum]

so people will upgrade perseus to it

[humble anvil]

i pinged Chris

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/again-stan-marsh-south-park-s8e14-woodland-critter-christmas-gif-22282651

[lone bloom]

you did not

ah

the other chris

[humble anvil]

yeah dude but he can slide it to someone

[lone bloom]

But still

What test

tested against a HH? Or Polaris? Or Idris?

Depending on what it got tested against it will either have shit or "balanced" hp

I mean it cant be tested against a Carrack - simply because it aint a combat ship, there are no sub cap combat ships

other than the HH

[round zodiac]

i wonder if it was like, internal running around testing, elevator under duress, maintenence servicing

fresh eyes testing form other depts

turning rate against carrack, hammerhead, polaris maybe

Perseus duels, 2v2, 1v1v1v1

[tawny fern]

Were there other people that blew up the captains chair/pilots chair?

Or was that mostly perseus pals

[lone bloom]

Also wasn't there a picture that showed someone from CIG saying that they usually don't know much about multicrewing since they don't play in orgs?

[azure fulcrum]

"to check its robustness and intent in combat"

[lone bloom]

and yet there was a QA test with a percy?

hu?

[round zodiac]

yea, they dont join orgs because theyre devs...

so its all theory and player testing

[lone bloom]

obv

But they test obviously multi crew ships

[round zodiac]

im sure there are NDA signed youtuber crews

[azure fulcrum]

maybe devs have their own dev org lol

[round zodiac]

Prevocati youtubers

[lone bloom]

imagine they still hug their intent of sub cap killer

and upped the guns to S8 but slowed them now the shit down

aka meteor cannons in larger

[foggy silo]

No Perseus sneak peek

🥺

[round zodiac]

just some progress report, no pic

[tawny fern]

I bet the devs do listen in to this channel

[round zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[lone bloom]

at least they listen enough to not show sneak peak

since we keep shitting on them

and now they scared

[tawny fern]

Lmfao when you guys dissected the previous sneak peaks

With photoshop and fbi forensics programs

Cig was like o hell no, no more sneak peaks

[lone bloom]

that happens with all sneak peaks

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats really what it is that probably means that we only scratched the surface of how they destroyed the perseus concept

literally everything has changed the exterior probably looks nothing like the perseus concept

[lone bloom]

imagine it has now the apollo engines

[azure fulcrum]

upscaled apollo engines lmao

[lone bloom]

i mean we did not saw the engines yet

[tawny fern]

@azure fulcrum did u see in general leaks

[azure fulcrum]

no?

[tawny fern]

The drake clipper isnt the flappy bird

[fallow wharf]

PU Monthly Report | October 2025

Art (Ships):

• For the Hammerhead, Design are currently setting up the revisions, including the addition of blast doors throughout the corridors and updated component placement.
• The Aurora is currently awaiting downstream support, particularly for audio and VFX.
• The Hull B is currently being prepared for its whitebox review.
• Both Drake Ironclad models and the Command Module progressed well into greybox.
• The Greycat UTV entered its whitebox phase.
• Pre-production kicked off for the Anvil Liberator.
• The RSI Perseus had a large-scale developer and QA playtest this month to check its robustness and intent in combat.
• Whitebox work continued on the Drake Kraken, with more developers moving onto it as other projects were completed.
• Six unannounced ships progressed through October:
  • The first is on track for its final review in early November
  • The second is art-complete and currently with the downstream teams.
  • The third, an upcoming variant, passed its LOD0 review. Following this, the downstream teams began their tasks ahead of its final review.
  • The fourth is currently with downstream teams for closeout ahead of its final review.
  • The fifth is approaching its greybox review in early November.
  • The sixth got his Art completed before it continued down the pipeline.

this the only mention for percy now?

[tawny fern]

Yea lol

[fallow wharf]

sad

[lone bloom]

welcome to the sadness party

[fallow wharf]

they really testing our resolve

[lone bloom]

Here take your bucket, its already filled with tears and dreams

[azure fulcrum]

oh wtf thats actually good news

flappo bird ugly as heeell

[tawny fern]

Yea now im extra curious

[fallow wharf]

what ship that from

[lone bloom]

Ironclad

[fallow wharf]

ah

makes sense

assets

[azure fulcrum]

command module no?

[lone bloom]

i mean

yellow

lol

which ship uses yellow other than drake

[fallow wharf]

true

[lone bloom]

and has... cables just hanging around

xd

[fallow wharf]

quality production yk

[lone bloom]

so 2 ships that are also release near likely before IAE one of them likely the alpha wolf and probably the mini corsair I assume?

[fallow wharf]

you think kraken for spring next year or next iae?

[lone bloom]

Remind you how large the Kraken is

and it has barely any assets

[fallow wharf]

it uses mainly ironclad assets

[lone bloom]

at the earliest IAE next year

[lone bloom]

which we also don't have

[fallow wharf]

and it looks like to be fastest capital rush for some reason

[fallow wharf]

ironclad is set for spring of next year

[lone bloom]

yeah but Ironclad is mostly empty space

Kraken isn't

and kraken is significantly larger

[fallow wharf]

That is true

300m

with own space station inside

[lone bloom]

I mean 50-60% of the Ironclad interior is just

one wallpanel

copy paste all around

and make here and there a few changes

[fallow wharf]

I wouldnt mind it if it looks good

fuck my whale bar is set very low now that i think about it

CiG changed me man

[lone bloom]

don't you say

[humble anvil]

sits between hammerhead and polaris. 900$ ship.

[lone bloom]

1,2 mil HP

[tawny fern]

Rumor is the drake clipper is not the mini corsair

[azure fulcrum]

*10,2 mil HP

[lone bloom]

(ngl couldn't care less about that ship)

[round zodiac]

clipper, corsair, cutter. whats next, Galley?

[tawny fern]

Now introducing

The drake boat

Coming soon

[round zodiac]

thats Active in SQ42

[lone bloom]

and it will be literally be - a boat

[round zodiac]

there is a wooden boat segment in the SQ42 trailer

everyone joked its a new drake vehicle

[lone bloom]

fitting

now strap a herald engine to it

[round zodiac]

Grey's

[tawny fern]

Ok my hopium is grey’s is the flappy bird

Please for the love of god create a monstrosity out of corsair wings

[round zodiac]

lol rustle that post has more apology than question

[agile kayak]

CIG try to say anything of substance about the fully completed perseus challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[round zodiac]

NDAs are a hell of a drug

[agile kayak]

dont forget, CIG's internal playtests found heavy fighter to be "OP"

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-uhoh-we-are-so-f-alan-alan-we-gif-4265882979042768268

you know and if their base were youtubers we are fucked too

Because they will say nah bro must be shit otherwise it will hurt our caps

[azure fulcrum]

fucking youtubers are the worst

please god don't use these people to QA ships

[lone bloom]

well those exact people are those they will very likely use for QA ships

if not their own devs

[round zodiac]

CIG even has to specifiy that Evocatis arent always youtubers. sometimes theyre peopel with good report history

[lone bloom]

"sometimes"

[azure fulcrum]

we're so fucked

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50259/thread/how-will-the-new-flight-model-affect-low-flying/8394764

just what I needed a Yogi reply to brighten my day

[tawny fern]

That

Makes a lot of sense

[azure fulcrum]

yep was about to say that actually sounds great

[tawny fern]

It is kind of ridiculous how much thrust the maneuvering thrusters have when you look at how small they are compared to the main engines

[azure fulcrum]

NFM? N? flight model

new flight model

oooh I'm slow

to me in this reply the way he talks about it seems like this is already the case in the NFM so the atmo hovering and flying is already finished?

[lone bloom]

well that are no new news tho

they said that already

so far they even showed it at some point in some video even no?

Also that you cannot fly for a long time on a single point aka hovering

otherwise your thrusters will overheat and you will fall

means for me just that flying in atmosphere will be significantly harder for every ship

[round zodiac]

i remember old hover mode, was so fun

[azure fulcrum]

pretty colorshift pearlescent but wasted on meteor...

sad we have no percy skin leaks from datafiles

[humble anvil]

that shit just went live

1 hr ago the ptu went up

atleast the patch notes

they havent really had alot of time to datamine

[azure fulcrum]

lets hope

[humble anvil]

atleast we know they can do it

[midnight crypt]

Perseus is gonna get the ghoulish green. First non drake ship to get it

[azure fulcrum]

staaaaahp xD

this is kinda bullshit tho so hovering with your nose down to kill on the ground is still a thing even for a gladius in the NFM

you're just slower at maneuvering while pointed nose down

[crystal sleet]

theory- CIG isnt putting out a lot of sneakpeeks becuase they only post a ton of sneakpeeks if they know the ship will be a bit shit

But since they find the Perseus isnt a shit ship, they dont feel the need to hype the Perseus up to off balance the reality of the Perseus

[midnight crypt]

If I had the Perseus model and was home, I’d show it in ghoulish green XD

[azure fulcrum]

lol take me through the thought process and reasoning behind that conclussion wtf

[crystal sleet]

"Hey, this ship is kinda shit in terms of function and might disappoint players a LOT"

"Lets hype them up to unrealistic levels of expectations so that when they do get disappointed, the level of expectations drops to a point that it makes the ship look decent"

[azure fulcrum]

so they're doing damage control in the sense they aim to lower the hype and expectations?

[crystal sleet]

"Hey, the Perseus isnt as bad as we thought it couldve been"

"Sweet, lets just chill with the hype so that we dont raise the players expectations too much, no need to inflate their expectations of what they think the Perseus could do"

[crystal sleet]

basically

[azure fulcrum]

wdym by "isn't as bad as we thought it could've been" ?

[round zodiac]

nose-down means your forward thrust isnt doing anything. nothing but little manuever tubes to strafe with

[crystal sleet]

just a hypothetical (and blasphemous idea) that the Perseus couldve flopped for whatever reason

[azure fulcrum]

[round zodiac]

that explains why the Guardian had a month of leadup and was in a bunch of sizzle reels behind a fence

[azure fulcrum]

things are looking pretty bleak

[round zodiac]

cause shitship needed hype

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[crystal sleet]

i wanted to also add in the hype and flop of the Ares, but that only flopped right after release because it was nerfed due to player complaints of being one shot

[lone bloom]

Being one shot

looks at perseus s8

[crystal sleet]

they already nerfed PDCs, light fighters wont complain as much when theyre kiting us

[lone bloom]

Tbf s6 theoretically also oneshoots but doesnt because the stupid ballistic nerfs

[azure fulcrum]

same thing prob gonna happen to perseus since its way too powerful on paper for its size

unless they nerf it out of the gate

[lone bloom]

Tell that the poolaris and idris owners tho

[crystal sleet]

id say the slow speeds the Perseus will undeniably release with will act as a balancer

[azure fulcrum]

I hope its slow but extremely tanky

[crystal sleet]

also the traverse speeds of the turrets are definitely gonna reflect the size of teh cannons

[azure fulcrum]

I like that kind of balance but yeah it could be slow and still squish

[crystal sleet]

wrong gif

[midnight crypt]

XD

[azure fulcrum]

with shield holes everywhere low hp

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/bismark-shoot-gif-20567816

[azure fulcrum]

I think there is a good chance perseus gonna be shit because they want to cater to carebear community

[lone bloom]

Still faster in every way than a polaris*

[crystal sleet]

theres a carebear community in every ship fanclub though

[azure fulcrum]

it should be but yeah... people be bitching about a ship that is literally designed for war its sole purpose is to outgun and outtank everything but they will complain still

[round zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-idris-star-citizen-aurora-gif-13516712780726964879

onshot? boohoo

[lone bloom]

Im gonna be a mad bear if they make percy shit

[azure fulcrum]

I'm gonna take a hiatus till 1.0 probably

[crystal sleet]

riot by invading stations with 10 perseus ship fleet

[lone bloom]

Forget locking down stations

[crystal sleet]

violent protest in game

[lone bloom]

We will lock down nyx gateway

[crystal sleet]

perfect

[round zodiac]

Perry this, casuals

[lone bloom]

Oh you want see new levski?

How bad

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-18978923

[round zodiac]

Blockade Blockheads

[crystal sleet]

"No Perseus, No Nyx!"

[round zodiac]

never s8iated

[azure fulcrum]

Idris is non-ccuable and give lots of fresh money for CIG so it gets special treatment... Perseus is more star peasant territory I don't think it will be as OP as idris is for that reason

[round zodiac]

has anyone made a "Nyxx out?" meme yet? or am i old

[lone bloom]

My view: if slowe than polaris, more or similar HP the polaris has but that would go against what cig said about cap armor (lightest cap being still heavier armored than heaviest sub cap)

[round zodiac]

its a first months of Hearthstone meme

[lone bloom]

And sq42 main ship*

[azure fulcrum]

true

[midnight crypt]

The idris weapons secretly has x2 damage to Perseus’

[azure fulcrum]

perseus is for people who can't afford a javalin

[lone bloom]

"Secretly" players would find out within the first few hours lol

I mean we all know people gonna go instantly test how fast it can destroy polaris engines, and if it takes longer than the idris turret something is off

[azure fulcrum]

if you haven't spent above 10k CIG treats you like shit basically they wont give you an OP ship with just a 600$ ship like perseus

I'm spiraling into deep depression its rough man

why you do this CIG

[round zodiac]

self awareness does thsi to an NPC

[azure fulcrum]

xDDD

[round zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-digital-circus-tadc-gummigoo-gummigoo-tadc-gif-3976317828083306204

proof is in the Amazing Digital Circus

[agile kayak]

I'll take a gun turret being slow as hell if it hits like a runaway freight train over something "versatile" (mid) any day.

I want a Perseus turret gun to be a metric on how hard a ballistic cannon can hit.

[humble anvil]

They could have shown the Cargo bay

....

We've been dry for 2 months now

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-water-spongebob-heatwave-hot-gif-12150719

[humble anvil]

Basically my mental

They have these great paints right andddd they're locked behind wiketroll

not account bound....

So so so annoying

[humble anvil]

Real question is what y'all doing after the ship releases?

Feel like it's going to be one of these moments

[humble anvil]

I hope so man

775m/s projectile speed... It's going to be tough hitting stuff... Hopefully the power is there to balance it

Fleet Defense ship built to fuckup big ships

[lone bloom]

Spamming percy screens in here lmao

And coping for arrastra or galaxy after

[humble anvil]

The other problem is CIG balancing for old stats

[lone bloom]

But mostly basebuilding since percy and basebuild is the only thing i was looking forward to

[humble anvil]

"oh it can fuck up a hammerhead quickly" said CIG devs

"it's good to go"

400k HP hammerhead

[lone bloom]

Well if it can fuck up 400k HP quickly it can fuck uo a polaris quicklyish too

[nocturne raft]

this combined with the thruster rework should be pretty substantial

we knew about the weight-thrust ratio theyre planning but not that mobility would be reduced as well

[humble anvil]

Delicious

Dude

Gilly 8 missions or 300k red patrols

Holy fuck money printer

[lone bloom]

You forget that it gets Split between two at the minimum

So its technically worse than doing a ert im pyro solo money wise

[humble anvil]

Yes

[lone bloom]

But gonna be maybe faster ? Dunno

[humble anvil]

I can't take this injustice

We have to kill vanduul for their armor.....

It's for Wikelo....

[lone bloom]

The money splitting is still a huge balls kick against multicrew stuff

[humble anvil]

It is

Less effective in every level too

[lone bloom]

I mean i see why they cant do a 100% payout

Because people still gonna solo it somehow

But 75% for both if duo sounds more fair than a 50% split

[azure fulcrum]

its just crazy that instead of fixing the payouts they nerf PDCs to encourage multicrew lol

while you can just solo red foxwell with a gladius

well connie is probably more optimal for the reds but you get the gist

[humble anvil]

I don't fuck with reds in a Connie

That's ludicrous amounts of BS

[azure fulcrum]

why not?

[humble anvil]

It's too hard and not worth the time investment

[azure fulcrum]

I dont really fly a connie so no idea tbh

[humble anvil]

Multiple big ships

[azure fulcrum]

I just hear that people do reds with connie

corsair too but connie is without a doubt better than corsair solo

[humble anvil]

Like. Okay. Some people absolutely they do

But this casual fucking twat. It's just too risky and the msr gets a bug spot from the ramp it doesn't take damage

It's too much for a Connie.

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that sucks

[humble anvil]

Multiple ships, ranging from small to 4 caterpillars

And they're all ai turreted

[azure fulcrum]

I just wonder if a fully crewed perseus is even worth doing PvE if its split in 2-4

[humble anvil]

Yah think it's not bad, but it's just too much, take too long to kill

[azure fulcrum]

when you can theoretically do them solo

[humble anvil]

Then you get, fkn search beacons n have to fight 3 times in a row sometimes

Tons of ships

[crystal sleet]

id assume it depends on how fast a crewed perseus can complete and accept contracts

[azure fulcrum]

the AI turrets are a bitch

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[humble anvil]

I'm getting so disgruntled with cig

Bring friends

[azure fulcrum]

same here they continue to do the most unimaginable stupidest things

[crystal sleet]

id assume a crew of 3 should be able to turn over contracts very quick since all youd need are the cannons.

[humble anvil]

But why should I when the reward is split when I can do one lower for a little less and significantly less time investment... By myself

[azure fulcrum]

they 100% don't care about putting any effort into it ressembling a MMO its just a tech demo

[humble anvil]

So many efficiency problems with this game it's annoying

[crystal sleet]

you gotta wonder when theyll decide to rework contract pay based on teh scale of a party

[azure fulcrum]

just the balancing the numbers and everything is so lazy and badly thought out

anyone here could do a better job

[humble anvil]

They said it themselves

They can't play multicrew

[azure fulcrum]

xDDD

[humble anvil]

And they actively play alone

[azure fulcrum]

they should've done this years ago but here we are

zero fucks given

[azure fulcrum]

literally all the devs do

how very peculiar

[crystal sleet]

like on paper its just adding a bit of maths, but i can see it bugging out by underpaying or over paying players

[azure fulcrum]

maybe they are all shy lonesome people who don't care about fixing multicrew?

[azure fulcrum]

ehhh bugs aside the balancing number thing really isn't that hard theres no excuse frankly

sure it takes some time and effort but its very basic thing to do in a game

I guess they don't think its priority because tech demo

CR lied to us again

[crystal sleet]

i wonder at what point CIG would consider SC not a tech demo then

[azure fulcrum]

its a live service didn't you know?

[crystal sleet]

yea

[humble anvil]

How many more bloatware ships will they add? This is the problem I see... Their monetization method is working short term but long term is going to bite them in the ass

When things break

[azure fulcrum]

CiG works in mysterious ways, the most simple basic shit they can't be bothered to fix they have to halfass everything and just abandon it

its already biting them in the ass with engineering lol

[crystal sleet]

hopefully engineering will open CIGs eyes on what they should be doing if nothing else has already

[azure fulcrum]

pretty insane amount of work to maintain that many ships

[humble anvil]

They need to make sure engineering works on every old ship and every new ship. And armor values as well.

Not to mention the amount of gold passes

On top of continue addition of new ships

It's a problem they created by adding compounding tech debt

[azure fulcrum]

its quite ridiculous I'm willing to bet we could have had 1.0 by now if they didn't add so many ships

[humble anvil]

Physicalizing everything, making everything so con voluted

Adding features to ships that didn't need it

They're so absolutely fucked it's not even funny

[azure fulcrum]

the physicalizing really threw a wrench into server meshing thing

they have to rework literally everything to make dynamic server meshing works

all the entities

[humble anvil]

Maelstrom on every new ship

Every old ship

[azure fulcrum]

and we don't even know half of it

the UI gonna have rework after rework

shit gonna be done over and over like its groundhog day

[humble anvil]

Hm

Ravit had the right idea

[azure fulcrum]

whats that?

[humble anvil]

Grind the game, not the store

Because they don't deserve more money

Chris doesn't

The devs just doing what their told

RIP

Trying to live

[azure fulcrum]

once they stop making a techdemo throwing shit to the wall and sees what sticks

and actually finish the core features in one go

maybe they deserve our money

[midnight crypt]

I’m still gonna be grinding the store. I don’t have time to grind the game since I’m always on a boat. I spend 2/3 on a boat and 1/3 time being home

[humble anvil]

Unfortunately I'm there too, ain't no body got time to actually grind the game

I dupe. My whole slick for the last 3 months has been duping

I don't even play the game

[azure fulcrum]

I'm in the same boat little time to grind or willpower for it lol. the Store Citizen game and talking about it is much more entertaining than "playing" the techdemo

[humble anvil]

What game is there to play

[midnight crypt]

I only had one week to play 4.3.2 and next time I’m home will be 4.4 >o>

[azure fulcrum]

store citizen? just theory crafting about ships and "planning" your fleet

I can't even use above 250Hz mouse polling rate in star citizen -.- this fucking techdemo, any other game I specifically tested the frame drop and there were zero issues

[humble anvil]

My fleet now is only perseus because I'm trying to not give them money

[azure fulcrum]

but somehow its my hardwares fault for not handling above 250Hz

[crystal sleet]

ill probably melt my f8c for ccu cash, dont really want to give em any more cash either

[humble anvil]

I had a dream for Arrastra but it's so far away that I may be dead

[azure fulcrum]

you're a wise man

I don't care much about wasting money, I have enough disposable income

but I see that the principle of giving your money to CIG is wrong

[humble anvil]

Get back to me when crafting is in

When shit will actually matter

There's reason to play besides Auec that's worthless

So close CIG

[azure fulcrum]

4.3.2 broke my favorite ship the asgard

that soured my experience I have no will to play anymore

[humble anvil]

Crazy how a patch breaks some ships

Look

The Ares Inferno storage has been broken for 8 patches

[azure fulcrum]

[humble anvil]

Open it andddd it stays open

Can't use it again

[azure fulcrum]

but my guns are literally not firing it's unplayable

[crystal sleet]

the wolf storage also does that too, doesnt close visually

[humble anvil]

Just CIG things ™

[azure fulcrum]

I should've known this would happen tho the patch is very broken and your ships will break too

[crystal sleet]

though the wolf one still works as an inventory

[humble anvil]

Xero that's bad

That's so bad

That's a new ship that can't even be properly QA

see why Perseus seems to be getting special treatment

[crystal sleet]

idk, i probably shouldnt ever give serious feedback because im pretty lax on most things

the Perseus i am passionate about though

[azure fulcrum]

hmmmm maybe I could melt my asgard for store credit and then use a buyback token to fix it... but then it will just break again lmfao

[humble anvil]

Praise be

[humble anvil]

Maybe fix on patch coming

[azure fulcrum]

fucking nursa has been broken all year too lmao

[humble anvil]

I'm just angry because they blue ball us again

[crystal sleet]

cant argue against that, wouldve been great to see somethong

[azure fulcrum]

well maybe friday we'll get a peak but in light of recent events I doubt it

[humble anvil]

Been on off mad at the company for 10 years

[azure fulcrum]

its a love and hate relationship lol

theres something to love but most of it is pure hatred xD

[crystal sleet]

the only thing ive been consistently mad about is graphics optimisation. Fuckin choppy ass gameplay when theres more than 5 things on screen

not to mention npcs being trained on professional R6S player data to pixel peek and shit

[azure fulcrum]

I can't wait for perseus to release be disappointed, pu being in such a broken state and just take a long hiatus so I can spent my time on real games instead

[humble anvil]

Lol!

[humble anvil]

My bet is it will hit really, really good. But nothing at range because of : weird Space ballistic fall off, atmo ballistic fall off, pip not accounting for fall off... And uhhhh yeah slow projectile speed causing more ballistic fall off

Atmo looking around 3km for things to drop off

Plus it's slower because size... Definitely 3km or less is where you want to be at

And that's not really...m ideal

Have to see how it goes, and possibly consider a weapon kit varient if ballistics just... Meh

[azure fulcrum]

oh right then the whole long range selling point is negated by the broken state of the game lol

very reassuring lol

[humble anvil]

If we get 1600m/s then yes long range it is

Ofc won't hit like a mach truck

But that's a pipe dream

Would hit light fighters and they'd cry

We can't have that

[azure fulcrum]

the safe bet is to expect the worst with CIG

[humble anvil]

They use laser trails to determine where they're going to evade and if you can get a solid pop off , within the second they're processing oh Perseus actually fired up on me

[azure fulcrum]

it will just be another useless ship no one cares to use because multicrew isn't a thing yet

[crystal sleet]

what if we gave fighters buffed manoevering thrusters? Like let em strafe with higher Gs, that would let em dodge incoming cannons fire

[humble anvil]

But they're letting light fighters do that by disabling gsafe and other limiters

Especially with new flight model

[crystal sleet]

i know, but like a biiiit more

[azure fulcrum]

that makes too much sense for CIG to do that! Fighters more agile and faster more fun to fly??!? AND it makes things more balanced

can't have any fun

[humble anvil]

Maybe when flight model change too, ships will be more predictable and help with pip

Easier to connect

[azure fulcrum]

aren't the pips off because of the massive desync?

the pip desync is especially noticable with NPCs

[humble anvil]

No because by the time projectile leaves, there's time for a correction even a split second bump up or down boost n ez dodge

[azure fulcrum]

hmm

[humble anvil]

The AI teleport around regardless

Heavier the ship the better the pip is

Light fighters just too small n agile

[azure fulcrum]

I guess so

[humble anvil]

If light fighters flew predictable and couldn't jerk their shit

Pops would actually land

[azure fulcrum]

I just spam strafe up down left right to dodge projectiles in my gladius

works like a charm

[humble anvil]

Too close to target then less travel in correction time

[azure fulcrum]

or just yanking it left and right also works

[humble anvil]

When u say 2.6km off from target is safe and free

Is accurate

Because it is

I sleep

[azure fulcrum]

sleep till IAE

2 week nap

xD

[tawny fern]

Enjoy the wait while it lasts

After 2 weeks there’ll be no more hope

And we’ll live with whatever abomination or blessing cig gives us

These last 2 weeks of speculation will be the most memorable

[crystal sleet]

atleast it will follow after the relief that the Perseus is now in our hands

[tawny fern]

Then we can start speculating about variants

[crystal sleet]

thats the spirit

[tawny fern]

Or “when will cig fix the perseus’s broken elevator”

“Fix the broken mfd’s”

[crystal sleet]

"Magazine reloading mechanism keeps eating ammo crats, doesnt refil the magazine storage"

[tawny fern]

Can you imagine

“I stored my ship now all my ammo is gone and i cant refill it”

[crystal sleet]

honestly if that was an actual bug, wed probably see it on the polaris as well

[fiery blaze]

Were gonna have another remote incident if we arnt careful fellas

[agile kayak]

Gotta love any other ship like the perseus would already be in ptu (starlancer pre iae) but its CIG's poster boy so its gotta stay locked up in fort knox over a month after it was done (citcon).

[fallow wharf]

Locking down Nyx if I ain’t happy with what we got

[round zodiac]

lock down the LEO over IAE 😄

[steel thistle]

melting probs

[coarse cloud]

• meet up with perseus pals
• we all die to an idris
• we upgrade perseus to odyssey/nautilus or melt it

[fallow wharf]

I really don’t want to melt

Most people who’ve been coping for a longer time paid like 200 stones for it

Not worth

[timid adder]

Nautilus looked "naughty" but the price tag was too much for a ship that they placed on the back burner

[severe lynx]

wonder how the nautilus' S7s would fare compared to the other bespokes

[humble anvil]

Perseus has the best future potential out of any ship

Due to Cargo: Blade ability: Armor

Punch up: Punch down

Matter of when it will be realized like the Ares Inferno

[humble anvil]

M2 is really good as well since it's turrets can all be bladed

Armor is questionable, durability questionable

[timid wind]

wait.. y’all melting?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-morty-butter-melting-melt-gif-26632564

Joking ofc

[timid wind]

so hilarious

[lone bloom]

They cant fuck up such a expensive ship? Right?

[fallow wharf]

2 more weeks

[fallow wharf]

looks at Polaris

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[normal fossil]

Think a lot of y’all are have over hyped yourself on the ship and it’s capability similar to what people did with the TAC. The TAC came out as advertised but a lot of people made assumptions about it that weren’t true and got burned.

Happens with a lot of ships actually, Polaris obviously being a big one

[timid wind]

i think people need to control their expectations, so many people already deciding its shit without ever even seeing it

[lone bloom]

There is a big difference between Tac and Perseus tho, Tac was never meant to fight against ships, and was never stated to do so (other than some smaller fighters)

We're just sad we don't get anymore sneak peaks because CIG doesn't like our view on their design choices

Damage wise it still got buffed

[timid wind]

some gamers are the pettiest most entitled group of bitches ever

[lone bloom]

and ngl Polaris is rn in the position where i original thought it will be so in my view both ships are sitting in the spot where they were advertised for xd

[timid wind]

what’s even so bad about the polaris?

[fallow wharf]

He is right

We need to cope more

[lone bloom]

People wanted it to be a "I delete you button" with the torpedos

Which it was never meant to be, well, it was, but not in that way people used it

Its supposed to kill off ships that are already under heavy fire

or don't have stuff to defend themselfes anymore from torpedos

aka a long range torpedo submarine

not a ship that brawls with other capitals - which it was used for

[timid wind]

well that’s a prime example

[lone bloom]

I mean its weaponry is a clear indicator that its not supposed to brawl capitals - and at the very last its light armor should be the biggest indicator for it

While on the other hand perseus is meant to brawl

its meant to hurt

in a direct combat fight

[timid wind]

completely ignoring what devs mean and thinking its supposed to be ”exactly the way I want it”

[lone bloom]

Perseus will lose any long range fight, while it gains its strenght in direct knife range fight (as advertised kinda)

[normal fossil]

Yup and with all that some people still think the Perseus is a capital and are unaware it is a sub cap ship

I bet people are gonna buy the Percy thinking that they can 1v1 an idris

[lone bloom]

CIG themselfes said its a class between Hammerhead and Polaris technically

And yes, it won't winn a fight against a capital - IF its used correctly

[timid wind]

but it’s a subcap and takes advantage of its faster speed compared to capitals? dodging heavy weapons?

[lone bloom]

I agree with you. But 99% of Cap players don't use their cap correctly

[timid wind]

its supposed to be a realistic game, and irl warships have roles

but people expect everything to be able to do anything

[lone bloom]

And with caps being used correctly i mean, almost fully crewed, later on with multiple engineers, AND most importantly what they technically even need right now, a escort that could fend of a Perseus sitting on its blindspot

[normal fossil]

Yeah, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they make the Percy slow and heavy hitting instead of being more agile. I mean it’s original speed is 95 M/s which is obviously outdated but it just goes to show that it probably won’t be super fast. I’m betting maybe TAC speed

[lone bloom]

Capitals are meant to be force multipliers, not fighting alone

If a capital comes with a small escort of a few heavy fighters, and is mostly crewed

A Percy will lose

[timid wind]

still faster than most caps no? so able to execute its role?

[lone bloom]

But if the capital gets used like... most people use it right now, aka solo it, or barely crew it (5 people most of the time) without escort

It will get shredded

[normal fossil]

Shit a few fighters against the Perseus it will still probably lose because they’re meant to be its counter

[lone bloom]

Yes

I mean, every larger ship loses against fighters tho

especially now after pdc 50% damage nerf

[normal fossil]

Yes, but that’s more of an issue with turrets not being able to hit fighters rather than the ships themselves

[lone bloom]

Perseus is very easily counterable

But we all know that the majority of cap players - don't have a fighter escort

let alone crew

[normal fossil]

Which will probably change with engineering seeing how much of a death sentence it’ll be to run without at least one engineer

[lone bloom]

Yeah a engineer will massively increase survivability, at least on heavier armored ships, but that won't change the fact that they will still try to run it on a skeleton crew

[normal fossil]

Which brings us into the other issue of missions not paying enough to justify crew. If they just made it to where everyone got paid the full amount instead of splitting it, it would fix that issue.

[lone bloom]

while a percy only needs 2-3 people to fuck up that skeleton crew

[normal fossil]

I’d probably add one more person cause you’re gonna need three just for guns and the pilot

[lone bloom]

Depends on the DPS output for the gun

I was currently thinking about engineer pilot and one gunner

[timid wind]

would you need a player for the remote turrets?

[lone bloom]

My bet is still that they will buff tac and HH slightly

so Percy sits where the Tac sits rn

[normal fossil]

Technically, they’re supposed to be bladed, so no

[lone bloom]

a very lil tiny bit faster than polaris

[normal fossil]

I agree

[lone bloom]

aka 5 m/s faster

than polaris

(I think that would be 155 m/s)

scm ofc

[normal fossil]

Which is still crazy to think because the Polaris is still 150m longer

[timid wind]

is a stock ship also bladed?

[lone bloom]

50-60 meters*

[normal fossil]

It’s supposed to be

Which is why I think they’re adding the PDC instead

[lone bloom]

but still obv almost double its size

[timid wind]

ok so probably but cant be certain

[lone bloom]

I mean, tbf only almost double in size in length

If you include thickness and wideness...

its 5x larger

in total volume

[normal fossil]

But I don’t think they’ll make it very different from the hammerhead speed as they’re technically supposed to be the same class but different roles

[lone bloom]

HH still needs to be faster