probably, depending on what the actual railgun dart is made of
#Perseus Pals
crystal sleet
severe lynx
gonna have to watch for boarders around here i guess
azure fulcrum
the EM railguns we have now use 460mm projectiles
crystal sleet
difference in tech surely
crystal sleet
gonna have to watch for boarders around here i guess
with engineering, you should be able to lock it
severe lynx
as in they wont open anymore when shot enough?
crystal sleet
probably?
severe lynx
solo pilots are in for a surprise i guess if its not the case
lone bloom
probably?
i doubt that will be gone just with engineering
the only hope is that its absurdly armored
crystal sleet
i atleast assume that engineering (and maelstrom as a result) will make it a ton more difficult to shoot open the externaldoors
crystal sleet
yeah. Wonder why they added an airlock still
lone bloom
yeah. Wonder why they added an airlock still
You know i can already hear it
"Jared: Why - why did you add an airlock, why did you do it?"
crystal sleet
yeah, but actually, why???
lone bloom
I bet with you they will say something like "you know, so you can walk on the perseus!"
Without giving an actual argument why that would be a thing you wanna do
i mean sure, faster eva access if you loot cargo but eh, dunno, you still have to go through the cargo bay
fluid plume
The s3 turret is on top of the bridge Iâm talking about it sliding up and sitting behind the bridge between the top engines almost giving it a battleship side silhouette
lone bloom
The s3 turret is on top of the bridge Iâm talking about it sliding up and sittin...
There is also one between the engines beneath
fluid plume
Forgot about that one
lone bloom
Forgot about that one
fallow wharf
i mean sure, faster eva access if you loot cargo but eh, dunno, you still have t...
But then you need to put down cargo elevator anyway, so that doesnât make sense
fallow wharf
Yeah didnât read that part
Just wanted to hate on cig logic
Next step they will add an exterior pilot seat 
lone bloom
Next step they will add an exterior pilot seat <a:KEK:1218343047230656512>
Space Engineers be like
fallow wharf
Inverted ship
steel sparrow
Monthly report when
humble anvil
Monthly report when
Soon
timid wind
what up gang
humble anvil
Soon
midnight crypt
in the monthly report, gonna see the perseus is completely gone. "rouge employee deleted every file related to the perseus and will try to get it out for next year IAE"
hollow remnant
lone bloom
in the monthly report, gonna see the perseus is completely gone. "rouge employee...
Aslong they redo the bridge then 
midnight crypt
Aslong they redo the bridge then <:kekw:875083074956820540>
theyll make it more like the polaris
humble anvil
uneven thistle
crystal sleet
humble anvil
Come on baby give us the Perseus shirt
desert gorge
What do we think
- Perseus will hit PTU
- Perseus will go straight to release đ€
lone bloom
they will hit you with an ironclad shirt instead <:yeah:954999101223743499>
You mean the Ironclad that got moved back to 2026
lone bloom
What do we think
1. Perseus will hit PTU
2. Perseus will go straight to release...
Hit PTU, they can't go straight release with a reload mechanism like on the Polaris that clearly had issues at release
including the potential of PDT and manual reloading that may need testing too
desert gorge
Idris went straight to release tho no?
lone bloom
It has no new features tho
Perseus does
at least potentially
AND Idris also has clearly some issues, especially the P variant
(And I think Idris has no manual reload mechanism somewhere no? like missiles or torps?)
desert gorge
True ye but well see i guess hope to see it soon on PTU with its fearures and i hope the alpha wolf to loved the wolf
tawny fern
alpha wolf sounds cool
desert gorge
prob just variant of the wolf with lasers <:kekw:875083074956820540>
Either that or a "pack lead" so med/heavy fighter we do need more heavy fighter
Good ones acctually
lone bloom
Either that or a "pack lead" so med/heavy fighter we do need more heavy fighter
would be funny afterall they showed many concepts of the wolf
and some were more into the medium fighter direction
maybe they went with two
and upscaled one a lil bit
humble anvil
Perseus should get some PTU time
if they dont then they're confident in their internal QA testing
like the supposed testing they already did with it
lone bloom
if they dont then they're confident in their internal QA testing
CIG? Confident in their internal QA testing?
azure fulcrum
Also on Wednesday, look forward to the October Monthly Report for Star Citizen for a behind-the-scenes look at what the dev teams have been working on across the Persistent Universe!
Sh3eeeeeeee3eeeeeet
azure fulcrum
Perious
lone bloom
I don't think it would be a percy talk
maybe more something like the manual reloading perhaps
azure fulcrum
Prob be engineering related n sheeeet
minor field
lone bloom
Prob be engineering related n sheeeet
Oh right the Infos about it were supposed to be not public
lone bloom
coarse cloud
And just closing the hole with our percies<:kekl:888505420593889290>
100 perseus v Port tresslar
make it 200
fill an entire shard
of 3 man perseus
lone bloom
just using s5 torps?
i mean
coarse cloud
599 idris v 1 perseus
humble anvil
<@697746519931224084> 1 perseus can solo 599 idris right
It can because all it has to do is quantum away and the idris will all kill each other
then it comes back at cleans house
tawny fern
alpha wolf because it has good alpha, they put a medusa gun on it instead of the gatlings
coarse cloud
@humble anvil @lone bloom you two have sent half the messages in this thread
keep up the good work
lone bloom
lone bloom
44.5K messages and 22K from them are in percy pals 
lone bloom
lone bloom
yk the wolf is a very very beautyfull ship (like - it looks design wise more luxury than origin lol) but the forced ballistics are eh
tawny fern
but its really really fast
humble anvil
and theres 1000 other squishy ships that can kill the squishy ship
lone bloom
But the important question is
humble anvil
death of a spaceman going to be hell with a small ship
lone bloom
does it fit into percy
lone bloom
death of a spaceman going to be hell with a small ship
imagine wanting to rep grind bounty or foxwell
with a wolf
lone bloom
You just die over and over again
lone bloom
dude
or with any starter ship
(speaking of 40-100⏠range)
you literally can't do something risky as that unless you really know what you do
humble anvil
just another reason why perseus is king
crystal sleet
200k contracts gonna be a breeze
lone bloom
200k contracts gonna be a breeze
isn't red level 300K?
or 350
if you duo that 150 or 175K per person
crystal sleet
I dunno, the highest payout i heard was ~200k, if there is a 300k, then even better
lone bloom
i think its against polaris and two HHs
timid wind
best looking small ship
i need to buy mine back, it made me feel like a total main character when i flew in it
crystal sleet
i think its against polaris and two HHs
https://tenor.com/view/baneofbelial-odds-i-like-those-odds-mando-mandalorian-gif-4627605777046762265
timid wind
so sleek and fast
lone bloom
https://tenor.com/view/baneofbelial-odds-i-like-those-odds-mando-mandalorian-gif...
With a percy? against NPC? absolutely
crystal sleet
lone bloom
prob have to kite the hammerheads first tho
crystal sleet
thats all right, probably get my gunners to focus on their engines then take theri powerplants
humble anvil
im a shitter
so i found something out
if you....
put an npc dead body into your ship, the game will not impound you
so i went into a dudes hangar
floated above him and turned the engines off
the ship came down, exploded his ass
lmaooo
humble anvil
no it did
humble anvil
so im going to do a character repair to teleport to orison and then have the guards kill others
the npcs
lone bloom
he doing the advertising
west verge
It's wonderful what cyberbullying can achieve
lone bloom
You just twisted his mind
lone bloom
It's wonderful what cyberbullying can achieve
Somehow your pfp also reminds me of that:
west verge
https://tenor.com/view/marcus-the-worm-marcus-campfire-marcus-it%27s-pissing-me-...
It's a cursed Talan from Outcast
lone bloom
nocturne raft
new skin idea:
RSI Porkeus - bacon paint
lone bloom
new skin idea:
RSI Porkeus - bacon paint
fallow wharf
What do you think how many people purchased Perseus
lone bloom
Many
nocturne raft
more than ud expect, less than u think
in a game with millions of players, only a small subset would spend as much as they have on a perseus
fallow wharf
I always see 10 Polaris in my servers
azure fulcrum
all loaner lol
nocturne raft
i ran into my first polaris yesterday in a week
azure fulcrum
server FPS gonna go up when perseus get released because polaris will disappear
fallow wharf
all loaner lol
Oh god
fallow wharf
But kraken and other ship got Polaris as loaner too if I am not mistaken
lone bloom
probably
fallow wharf
the only thing that aren't loaners are the idrises
Javelin has idris as loaner
azure fulcrum
yeah everyone and their momma got a javalin
lone bloom
Javelin has idris as loaner
well not many people own a javelin tho
like, if 100 people own a perseus
azure fulcrum
isn't it uh-mazin?
lone bloom
2 of them will own a javelin at best
azure fulcrum
all the cuntent creatr lol
lone bloom
Sure some randoms will have a javelin, but those won't be many
fallow wharf
Whales be whales ig
lone bloom
i mean a percy is also already whale
the question is what kind of a big whale you wanna be xD
crystal sleet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Mx-1hpbyE
The Perseus from another universe
azure fulcrum
yes
fallow wharf
Fuck
fallow wharf
Almost all but not pledged
azure fulcrum
jesus
lone bloom
how meny smoll ship do yyou own?
irrelevant if he has the other three, better said, even one of those three
fallow wharf
Only titan is pledged
lone bloom
My view is still 100-200 "dolphin" (aka someone who pays here and there but not in huge amounts and also knows when to stop) everything above is straight up whale
everything beneath 100 is the average
fallow wharf
Wasnât avg player spending $160+
lone bloom
avg player spending by who
fallow wharf
We breached 1 billion $
azure fulcrum
irrelevant if he has the other three, better said, even one of those three
it just baffles me so many people buy the useless smoll ship for IRL money
fallow wharf
avg player spending by who
Total income divided by playerbase
lone bloom
Total income divided by playerbase
yeah which is totally stupid because thats not the average spending
because that does not exclude the whales
azure fulcrum
the big ships I kinda understand cuz they're gonna be a long grind to obtain ingame
fallow wharf
it just baffles me so many people buy the useless smoll ship for IRL money
Titan goated
lone bloom
whales massively inflate that average spending
azure fulcrum
Titan goated
titan is all you need tbh
lone bloom
pretty sure if you would exclude the whales (aka stuff beyond 200+ bucks) average spending would be around 90
maybe less
fallow wharf
Saw Perseus ad -> purchased Perseus
lone bloom
Then licked blood and bought Polaris
fallow wharf
-> found out about kraken details and now kraken on my hunt list
fallow wharf
you are absolutely a whale
Am I a better whale if I got a whole good setup already? I saw some whales playing on shitty laptop with 6 frames on own capital
lone bloom
still whale
lone bloom
I mean - I healed rustle from Chroberts marketing
He sold his stuff to be more like me - living from the bare minimum (in sc)
Yes - yes the Perseus is included in the bare minimum
fallow wharf
Pioneer 
fallow wharf
Btw those ships are financed by ex fiancée ring
lone bloom
Fatterpillar = loot pinjata for Perseus
fallow wharf
azure fulcrum
arrastraaaaaaaa
lone bloom
tho i can see why people choose the ironclad, simply because it will be absurdly easy to load
azure fulcrum
how many peepal minimum for assassssssssstra?
lone bloom
Prob one of the first things i gonna farm ingame
i mean original its been the percy but since i have that one it will be arra
fallow wharf
How do I know what ships will be for aUEC
fallow wharf
lone bloom
since 890 is something like 80 mil
azure fulcrum
when hand mining and planet mining came space mining suddenly got a lot less profitable
lone bloom
i would guess more something like 150 mil
fallow wharf
since 890 is something like 80 mil
65-62 now
lone bloom
and idris 240
fallow wharf
and idris 240
azure fulcrum
890 is purchessable ingame?
lone bloom
yea?
azure fulcrum
sheeeeeeeet
lone bloom
always been
lone bloom
lone bloom
I never play this game because it suck
ya prefer just to buy
lone bloom
and afterall talking about SC is more fun than playing SC
azure fulcrum
always has been lol
lone bloom
Because you don't encounter bugs while talking about it
fallow wharf
Ranting about whales is fun
lone bloom
unless discord goes
fallow wharf
Fucking whales
fallow wharf
fallow wharf
lone tundra
Fucking whales
azure fulcrum
this guy is pretty insane
he rants about random stuff everyday and goes on crazy incoherrent tangents
but every now and then he makes some good points
lone bloom
pretending like we aren't insane
azure fulcrum
you have to be insane to be a store citizen
lone bloom
lone tundra
you have to be insane to be a store citizen
azure fulcrum
lone bloom
fallow wharf
https://imgur.com/a/vrm6cJL
lone bloom
Truly family
fallow wharf
humble anvil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Mx-1hpbyE
The Perseus from another universe
Beam Perseus
lone bloom
The year of the beams
humble anvil
If Perseus doesn't get pilot controlled top turret slaved forward
Imma be fucking livid
Lol that's cap
Just hate CIG decision making some time... Like giving Idris pilot a fuck u Railgun
@lone bloom You gotta join herring's discord lol
fallow wharf
humble anvil
Buncha fun bs over there when nothing's going on here
humble anvil
CiG withholding all perseus 2 days before release
nocturne raft
Imma be fucking livid
u know we wont right
humble anvil
Ya but a man can hope for it to increase sales
It definitely won't because it's too much power for solos
Idris has it because they want people to spend
azure fulcrum
you guys are way to sober for my liking
I'm probably the biggest coper and dreamer in this place
perseus pilot controlled weapons? Is it unlikely? yes. Is it possible? sure it is
theres very few ships that dont have them, carrack and hammerhead I suppose
azure fulcrum
polaris
nocturne raft
snap out of it man
azure fulcrum
pretty sure thats it
nocturne raft
the higher ur copium, the more likely of refundium. which will make the haters right that most of us will just refund after 5 minutes
dont let them win
azure fulcrum
Xd
void roost
If Perseus doesnât have 1000+ SCU cargo, 3 x each tier medical bed, 10 Size 8 guns, drones & Chris Robert NPC that greets me when I board, instant refund.
humble anvil
I hold it for some time
But
Genuinely, if the Perseus doesn't have stats favorable for being a defensive blockade ship. (Slow, Very Tanky) (Able to take a beating)
I won't be a happy guy
azure fulcrum
perseus CCU locked only way to get rid of it is melt for store credit or.. get a poolaris
humble anvil
Perseus will show how the balance department will go and will cement my opinion on where CIG is headed
azure fulcrum
Perseus will show how the balance department will go and will cement my opinion ...
perseus is gonna be a pivotal monumental moment in star shitizen history
humble anvil
I'll use this information to determine if I want to cope for Armor or back out entirely
azure fulcrum
its gonna set and determine the future for this game
if they fuck this up all hope is lost
perseus is my only hope for this game tbqh
if they can't get the balancing right and new game mechanics that come with it I see no future for this game
its also because the only thing I care about in this game is combat
humble anvil
I understand people want to say that we're crying because we want our ship to be overpowered. But all it does is supposed to be Tanky, slow, and to kill big ships. It's supposed to be a military blockade ship. If it can't do that
I don't fucking want it
azure fulcrum
and perseus is the ultimate ship combat ship, it relies on the armor mechanics, the bladed turrets, the PDCs, the ammunition types, the manual loading
this is it
if they can't nail it then its never supposed to be
humble anvil
So we'll see
azure fulcrum
its just the truth
humble anvil
It's The truth
azure fulcrum
it really is that black and white
and of course it completely relies on the multicrew and engineering
humble anvil
Hate people trying to bring explorer ships n cry that we just want a MILITARY SHIP to be GOOD for COMBAT
azure fulcrum
so its the ultimate test to see if star citizen gonna fail or succeed
people don't understand the importance of Perseus
but I do
humble anvil
Will CIG bring a balance to the force that is Capital Gameplay
Or Will they succumb to light fighter meta
azure fulcrum
kinda tired of the solo light fighter meta
humble anvil
I was in a Paladin
azure fulcrum
it is time to make turrets actually good
humble anvil
Brother man
azure fulcrum
and multicrew rewarding
humble anvil
A arrow
Rotated top to bottom
I'm in the turret, my buddy is flying
That was some of the stupidest gameplay I've ever experienced
azure fulcrum
-.- you srsly got rekt by an arrow in a paladin?
humble anvil
Yeah
humble anvil
It was and I mean it, the most stupidest gameplay I've ever had to endure through
azure fulcrum
yogi-clown telling us the new flight model not going to be anytime soon isn't very reassuring
humble anvil
Almost as stupid as the Mantis sticking to my Connie's ass not letting me quantum
azure fulcrum
It was and I mean it, the most stupidest gameplay I've ever had to endure throug...
I just feel the cringe
azure fulcrum
Xd
humble anvil
I backspaced n logged out
azure fulcrum
haha
azure fulcrum
ehhh lets hope the PDCs are going to be good enough to prevent stuff from this happening
on teh porcius
humble anvil
Yeeee
Deterrent enough to have light fighters fuck off
Remote gatlings new PDC type right
nocturne raft
If Perseus doesnât have 1000+ SCU cargo, 3 x each tier medical bed, 10 Size 8 gu...
u said this in jest yet theres a lot of people who are actually mad that all ships arent like this
any discussion about cargo capacity and layout, medbeds or ability to carry a vehicle that happens u can usually tell who those people are
lunar inlet
azure fulcrum
not the fried chicken guy đč
lunar inlet
đ
severe lynx
hmm maybe i can change the tac to something else
raven jetty
... Honestly seeing the Thundercloud paint on the modelviewer just makes me want it more. Time to sit and refresh and see if I can get it.
lunar inlet
Good luck
fluid plume
Is there a chance the thundercloud paint will go back on sale when the ship launches
lunar inlet
Is there a chance the thundercloud paint will go back on sale when the ship laun...
MaybeâŠ
Pretty big maybe
uneven thistle
Is there a chance the thundercloud paint will go back on sale when the ship laun...
Absolutely no chance
I got lucky and got mine for $35 a couple months ago
These days it's a bit more pricey
lunar inlet
A bit more⊠Percy đ
severe lynx
these days the lowest you could get would probably be like around 85
coarse cloud
these days the lowest you could get would probably be like around 85
if your paitient about 60
i snagged mine before the stonks went crazy
crystal sleet
60 seems to be the lowest you can get with the thundercloud, unless if you know a guy
desert gorge
I still need one theoreticly buuuut where the F do u find anything below 120 đ
severe lynx
some current sellers still have it around 85
though most i see have it above 100 at least
humble anvil
Don't hold your breath on Thundercloud
The model viewer looks very sleek and dangerous. Sold my thundercloud back because I got no faith in CIG to make a decent paint lol
New model perseus is very mm... Silicone
humble anvil
And if the TAC paint is anything to go by, it just won't look good
tawny fern
how many skins does the zeus have like 5000
humble anvil
We could get Nocturne paint, on top of the metropolis paint by default on Perseus which will be good enough
Nocturne would immediately invalidate thundercloud imo lol
Solistice
Olympia
Lovestruck February I'd bust
Quasar is a black and gold esk paint
I just realized
IT'S LITERALLY PALATINO
DAYSTAR, SUNSTONE, METROPOLIS,
azure fulcrum
And if the TAC paint is anything to go by, it just won't look good
thundercloud gonna look aaaaissss no question about it
severe lynx
well at least its not purple
humble anvil
Ravit in shambles
humble anvil
CIG be like we have this texture map; what's his rap everything in it
No thought behind it whatsoever just wrap everything
Lol
Copy pasteeee
tawny fern
yeah pretty much
theres a lot of paints that look like it was specifically designed for the ship, with details that match the contours of ships
big fat overlay camo just looks lazy
azure fulcrum
the less effort they put in a skin the more expensive it gonna get
I already notice we're getting more camo skins lol
azure fulcrum
fuuuuuuuuuck
azure fulcrum
like its not even a good camo it just looks like vomit
humble anvil
Lots of good paints to come
Maybe even get a Medusa paint
Would be crazy wouldn't it
How the Idris has shark
She coming
azure fulcrum
this is a good example of a camo that is done well
desert gorge
I got my shark đ
azure fulcrum
humble anvil
steel sparrow
report thooonnnn
humble anvil
Yes
fallow wharf
We can fly Percy on 19th?
desert gorge
We hope but potentially on RSI day
steel sparrow
no way they don't let us fly first day IAE
fluid plume
Did that paint ever come out to buy
azure fulcrum
Did that paint ever come out to buy
nope
might be coming with percius release in tandem with thunderclout
fallow wharf
Imagine they sell thundercloud for 20 bucks again on release
All those people who bought at 100 or more dollars
severe lynx
would certainly be interesting if they started reselling concept paints
lone bloom
no way they don't let us fly first day IAE
Patch day * usually patch drops one day before iae
And that includes plenge ships straight to flyable
I mean first day last iae there was a huge Parking lot full of polarises at the iae Center
desert gorge
So first day we do a meet up đ
lone bloom
The very bad part will be RSI day
where everyone will rent a percy
at least it won't be as laggy ig with the polaris last year
steel thistle
where everyone will rent a percy
and buy one
those people that refuse to buy concepts but want a ship when it comes out
steel thistle
or they apply their chain
lone bloom
just to pay more than the original price? lol
isn't that straight up, well, stupid
except if they had the perseus already for a set concept price in their chain
severe lynx
i would've gotten the concept back then if only I wasnt still studying 
azure fulcrum
where everyone will rent a percy
Thats not a thing anymore to my knowledge? We couldnt rent MX last ILW?
lone bloom
Thats not a thing anymore to my knowledge? We couldnt rent MX last ILW?
ILW isn't IAE
lone bloom
My bet is that you wont be able to rent percy at iae
I mean I don't care myself
but would be weird if not
afterall renting is a good way for people to find out if they want a ship
lone bloom
Fair nough, but you will find them either way
azure fulcrum
Polaris wasnt rentable either
azure fulcrum
afterall renting is a good way for people to find out if they want a ship
Yeah but fomo be peak when they cant try
azure fulcrum
Its a new thing, we used to be able to rent new ships
lone bloom
its not like its hard to find people to ask them to try out a ship
azure fulcrum
But not anymore as far as my memory serves correctly
severe lynx
probably going to be loads of solo pilots wanting to get their turrets crewed and functioning
lone bloom
i mean technically you only need one other person
If you don't have ANY other person you know that is happy to gun that gun thats kinda sad xD
azure fulcrum
Ye that be me
azure fulcrum
If you don't have ANY other person you know that is happy to gun that gun thats ...
You didnt even add me on rsi đ
azure fulcrum
azure fulcrum
I did
lone bloom
azure fulcrum
But u didnt add đ
azure fulcrum
<:EeveeFear:957284670553341982>
You wanna add me?
lone bloom
not in SC rn .-.
azure fulcrum
So cold it hurts
lone bloom
and dunno your name either xd
azure fulcrum
Rsi u can add
My handle ararex
On the rsi website lol
Idk if im being trolled or what Xd
lone bloom
Idk if im being trolled or what Xd
azure fulcrum
Alright I tried guess ill just fly the perseus alone
Perseus gonna have 10 mil hp so i can just walk to the turret from the pilot seat while in combat
Itll be fine
lone bloom
Alright I tried <:yeah:954999101223743499> guess ill just fly the perseus alone
I mean I did send you a request
round zodiac
Perseus gonna have 10 mil hp so i can just walk to the turret from the pilot sea...
Did that in my Redeemer a lot XD
humble anvil
@azure fulcrum anywhere from 500-4m possible
lone bloom
doubt its gonna have more than idris HP tho
humble anvil
It won't have more lol
But it could have ALOT. It depends if CIG wants to make it slow and Tanky like they said it would be
round zodiac
We'll all be here on its first day and can't meet up for sho
Hopefully someone with ERT rep
The shots will cost more than an LRT pays XD
coarse cloud
any chance we get another Perseus sneak peak tomorrow as part of October report?
lunar inlet
Probably
midnight crypt
perseus is going to be the most disappointing ship. CIG should of taking one from valve's book. never release the perseus like valve will never release HL3 because of the too much hype it has
timid wind
perseus is going to be the most disappointing ship. CIG should of taking one fro...
shut up heretic, go cry somewhere else
round zodiac
I'm copin' heaa
desert gorge
Hopefully someone with ERT rep
just do gauntlet 8 agianst polaris no ?
midnight crypt
shut up heretic, go cry somewhere else
i dont care for the perseus but it is gonna be really funny that everyone wants the perseus but no matter what CIG does, its not gonna be perfect and ruin what they think is gonna be this perfect ship
round zodiac
I think because they haven't promised us some 'explorer with medbed and scanning station for flying without docking' pipedream, we'll be fine.
We expect a 100 something meter gunboat with a cargo elevator. Not much to screw up
lone bloom
I think because they haven't promised us some 'explorer with medbed and scanning...
and blades by stock (which should not be an issue since that applies to every other ship too, just that percy gets them by stock once they are available)
and ability to rearm balistics manually
lone bloom
i dont care for the perseus but it is gonna be really funny that everyone wants ...
i mean im dissappointed already from the bridge, obviously, but aslong they don't fuck up the guns like they did on the meteor, it should be fine
round zodiac
Unreleased mechanics I'm not too worried about. State of the ship on release isn't likely to be disappointing. But will see
lone bloom
i mean and both mechanics will apply to all other ships aswell
meaning they can't fuck it up
i mean they can - but have to fix it
if it would only apply to perseus, they would say "eh just for one ship whatever" (see Hull C)
round zodiac
Something something 'restocking will come to Perseus later due to issues with internal layout' XD
lone bloom
round zodiac
Carrack cargo pods taking years after manual cargo update
lone bloom
Carrack cargo pods taking years after manual cargo update
Thats what im saying, aslong its not just for one ship they care about it
If ammo reload would be only for percy we would be doomed
round zodiac
yea, as long as its currently meshed with considerations for however manuall reloading will come to pass, we good
but if they Carrack's Cargo loading in that its peculiar, it might take a while
coarse cloud
i dont care for the perseus but it is gonna be really funny that everyone wants ...
Not much to screw up
all we are expecting is a sub capital ship
capable of killing anything its size and below
But will have trouble with light and medium fighters
round zodiac
Bones are always in style
humble anvil
Not much to screw up
It's a combat ship
I'm going to be f****** pissed
If the one thing it's good at it can barely do
Because people b**** and moan
You know people bitched and moan about the Idris but CIG stood their ground
coarse cloud
Minutes, seconds?
man 
quaint scaffold
@humble anvil ban him from the club oh great overseer.
tawny fern
idk how this ship is still kept in so much secrecy
really no mention of the guns, or ai blades
?
lone bloom
You know people bitched and moan about the Idris but CIG stood their ground
The only weird thing about idris is that they didn't gave polaris the torps to the pilot after idris release
lone bloom
Now do it for the Pioneer.
pionever
humble anvil
really no mention of the guns, or ai blades
:/
quaint scaffold
I donât know a number large enough
Itâs so joever
lone bloom
Nerf? lol
quaint scaffold
I wonder if it will all ever be truly balanced.
They need to give capitals better locking capabilities against fighters. Even in an Idris gun seat I still canât kill a Scorpius and itâs very annoying.
lone bloom
they nerfed the damage by 50%
maybe they nerfed it because of the new turrets coming with percy
tawny fern
they nerfed missile health by 50% as well
so they effectively made it harder to kill ships, but effectiveness against missiles remains unchanged
which is funny because light fighters could already evade pdc's, or simply dictate range and fly away
lone bloom
so only light fighters gain something from that
tawny fern
yeah
and heavy fighters i suppose, since they can also be targeted by pdcs
at 7:41 is pretty spot on
cig has all these systems in place to play with a bunch of people in a capital ship, but they're still going to get clowned on by a bunch of light fighters
tawny fern
i wonder how often capital ship players get griefed in the verse
or at least harassed by players
humble anvil
I'm tired
A big ship is for multi crew, but because CIG fails to have a reliable system for multi crew to defend against light fighters other than flying a capital ship to absorb all the damage they throw out
I'm so tired
lone bloom
the proper systems just havent been implemented yet
they are there, called PDCs
but guess the only system that will actually help with that issue will be engineering - infact - not even engineering but armor itsself
tawny fern
armor would help a loooooooooooot
lone bloom
ofc im not talking about something like a cutty
im talking about percy and beyond
something like a cutty or connie? yeah they are screwed
humble anvil
Even then.... Projectiles just aren't fast enough.... A light fighter shouldn't be messing with a Connie...... They shouldn't be messing with a Perseus... Those Heavy Fighters should be but they're so slow that they're getting taken out too
Their target pip prediction and general state of light fighters aren't great...
Everythings not great
lone bloom
Even then.... Projectiles just aren't fast enough.... A light fighter shouldn't ...
sure you can't do much against a light fighter, but the light fighter nothing against you either than downing the shields
lone bloom
you mean against :p
humble anvil
Yes
humble anvil
sure you can't do much against a light fighter, but the light fighter nothing ag...
The Perseus, they're not doing much
But everything smaller without the effective armor or in this case flak coverage because no arnor
Nothing can be done. Good pilots will keep in the blind spot
Or dodge out and harass at range
S3s which are on so many light fighters are substantial
They're not nothing
lone bloom
Maybe they also just wanted to reduce the soloability for caps
But that wont change anything lol
humble anvil
But that wont change anything lol
Ye can and will still limp dick back to station
And not everyone is a killer
Still need to get past armor to pen a component to even begin setting the fucker ablaze
If anything it makes smaller ships like the Hercules, and Connie harder to operate as they don't necessarily have armor
Even heavy fighters are going to get it
lone bloom
Ye can and will still limp dick back to station
I meant for pve
No way that change will make pve missions any Harder for solo caps
humble anvil
Correct!
Everything below caps and the Perseus are fucked
Maybe the paladin will be okay because apparently heavy armor
pretty much sums up alot of our problems
the devs legit do not know how to balance multi crew
because they dont play multi crew
tawny fern
ai crew, ai blades, engineering, and maelstrom all need to come into play
right now we're trying to drive a car with no steering wheel and no seats
lone bloom
ai crew, ai blades, engineering, and maelstrom all need to come into play
Two more years trust
midnight crypt
ai crew, ai blades, engineering, and maelstrom all need to come into play
hopefully they be out by the time i get my kraken so i dont have to suffer đ
tawny fern
yeah can you imagine they just add the kraken now with none of the additional features
we have uhh.....turrets
heady escarp
Two more years trust
AI crew when added will be so bugged instead of going to pilot turrets they go to toilet
lone bloom
<:emoji_118:1293494922178990083> AI crew when added will be so bugged instead of...
So the bucket
heady escarp
So the bucket
now that you mention it.... the shiv players will have fun with that
lone bloom
I have the feeling tho CIG should do something battlefield does, playing on every friday with the community
aka them for example being in a idris or polaris, and getting attacked by... light fighters
Then they would see why its not a great idea to nerf the pdcs
normal fossil
The pdc were ment for missiles and torpedoes not fighters it also help prevents solo piloting the ships, the nerf makes sense. What they need to do is make it easier to hit light fighters with turrets.
round zodiac
but the small cross section and slipperiness of light fighters is kinda the point
lone bloom
The pdc were ment for missiles and torpedoes not fighters it also help prevents ...
yet pdcs are the only defence larger ships have against fighters
And they did infact, not give any other methode to fight fighters
Than - playing fighters
round zodiac
i hope the future of armour gives straight up immunity to small arms. firing a pistol at space plates should do negligible damage
so as, firing S2s at a Hammerhead or Perseus should do zero
normal fossil
Sorta, itâs is more like the armor has its own hp and different weapons do different amounts of damage
round zodiac
area EMP bursts should also stop Light Fighters, less EM shielding
lone bloom
i hope the future of armour gives straight up immunity to small arms. firing a p...
we know it won't tho
at least V0
V0 armor will be just a different kind of HP pool - not knowing the difference it its a S5 ballistic or a S1 laser
round zodiac
isnt that what weapon Alpha is supposed to kidna be, too? armour pen?
crystal sleet
EMP ballistic shells for the Perseus, sap the enemys power plant
azure fulcrum
the devs legit do not know how to balance multi crew
that's just amazing! so their fix to encourage multicrew was to nerf PDCs I would have never thought of that because it's F*ing r%#
nevermind not splitting rewards over 20 people when doing a shared mission
or making turrets better against fighters
soloing with PDCs doing PvE missions was only ever a problem with polaris or idris
but now all PDC having ships have to suffer for it
lone bloom
soloing with PDCs doing PvE missions was only ever a problem with polaris or idr...
I know what the issue probably was
Soloing pve missions easily afk grinding money
means you won't need any other ship to
aka no new plenges
thats the biggest problem for CIG
azure fulcrum
I guess but it was only feasible in a capital ship with PDCs
poor percy gonna suffer because of the bullshit capitals
đ
crystal sleet
maybe they can make taking a cap ship out in the first place a lot more harder? Like instead of calling it up in an XL hangar, you have to wait for a slot in que for your cap ship to spawn in the drydocks
azure fulcrum
the state of multicrew is just so emberassing you shouldn't be able to solo any capital ship
azure fulcrum
its been a problem for years now so IDK why all of the sudden they come with this bright idea
azure fulcrum
another in power systems
like if capitals had actual gameplay minigames of some sort for these crew stations
round zodiac
throwing darts at a spinning board hoping for hte best
balancing a beam that is still being built
they need a Tech Debt Dept
azure fulcrum
its so dumb that we even have a solo idris with beam still, sure they got rid of the gimbal autoaim
round zodiac
that railgun should need a player (or NPC) to load a new shell each shot
azure fulcrum
yeah exactly
I guess its just real hard for CIG to actually make multicrew gameplay ideas
they could just take inspiration of other games
round zodiac
Puzzle Pirates
azure fulcrum
a copilot could manage the power pips, shield, scan stuff
engineer has his hands full with repairs
lone bloom
like if capitals had actual gameplay minigames of some sort for these crew stati...
if only capitals would have actual meaningfull gameplay that actually gives you a benefit for the game - and actually would make it better to multicrew over than just solo everything
like you multicrew and it only has negatives effect
you're prey for PvP related things - any
and you split money
azure fulcrum
and they only make it worse by nerfing PDCs lol
round zodiac
and theyre doing bandaid things like missions pay more if you have more players. why does the contract provider pay more because you cant do alone
lone bloom
the only thing where its better is for percy simply because its a hard counter for capitals
but thats it
azure fulcrum
a copilot could manage the power pips, shield, scan stuff
and the larger your ships get the more important multicrew becomes
round zodiac
poor guy budgetted 12k for the murder he wants done, why does he have to pay 16 because you have a Hurricane/scorpius
azure fulcrum
It's just baffling to me that CIG hasn't come with any good ideas on how to make multicrew meaningful and engaging
round zodiac
something something beta is for gameplay
theyve removed more features in the last 3 years than theyve added
Server Meshing was a reboot
azure fulcrum
imagine being a gamedev doing it fulltime and getting paid less then any other job in the field of programming
you must be passionate about the project no?
You must have all the time and passion to come up with great ideas no?
round zodiac
game programmers get paid like 60k/y because its "fun" to not code other stuff
my old college mate gets 150k in midtier software programming because he works for banks
azure fulcrum
its just insane that no one at CIG has come with any ideas or plans for multicrew
makes me think CR really dont care about PU but is soley focused on SQ42
round zodiac
makes a banking app and gets 5 digit bonuses
azure fulcrum
theres something very wrong at CIG
round zodiac
rockstar and EA can get shit done with 1000 people because theyve been doing it for 30 years
actually, the Multicrew issues is a perfect analogy of hteir inability to get their teams synced
they dontk now how to multicrew, or multidepartment
azure fulcrum
and devs talk to us all the time and seem pretty open
lone bloom
my old college mate gets 150k in midtier software programming because he works f...
Lol literally what my Coach said I should send applications to, simply because its easier to get in, and also paid like double
(for design not for programming tho)
azure fulcrum
they dontk now how to multicrew, or multidepartment
yeah basically its just a giant chicken without a head
round zodiac
i used to think things got done when they ewre 'ready' because of how Agile it all was. but i had that perspective shattered by a dev talk video saying they 'needed to get salvaging in by the end of hte year'. which is a WATERFALLLL
its still lofty goals with abstract dates they cant reach, causing half ass beam gameplay
heal beam,tractor beam, salvage beam
ATLS comes out, still isnt a powerlifter. just a different tractor beam
somethign something need maelstrom
azure fulcrum
its still lofty goals with abstract dates they cant reach, causing half ass beam...
so because of unrealistic deadlines and no clear direction constantly changing priorities basically they are forced to rush something half assed?
round zodiac
i wonder if hte ship teams even knew it was going to be RSI ships for 4 years before citcon told us
azure fulcrum
the teams seem to be working on something for a few weeks then they drop it and continue on to the next thing
and never ever anything gets done right
its just all half assed bullshit
round zodiac
we should probably be in the ranthouse
biggest one for me was the new cargo system with freight elevators was added, very cool, very buggy. but they didnt tie the REFINERY output to the STATION INVENTORY
you still had to EXPORT the REFINERY stuff to a SHIP. then tractor it into the FREIGHT ELVAOTR
i think this was fixed just a month ago
feature releases abide the marketting schedule, not the polish or completeness
azure fulcrum
dont you think thats it better to work on a single gameplayloop and finish it in one go and not half ass it?
like the fucking flight model for example?
round zodiac
NYX has to be ready by november20th, because thats the IAE marketting event. not because its ready for players
azure fulcrum
14 years and no end in sight?
lone bloom
we should probably be in the ranthouse
"Perseus Ranthouse"
round zodiac
Perseus Panic
round zodiac
there is always another blocked
Building blocks, server meshing, maelstom,
where are the manufacturor themed ship GUIs CIG
azure fulcrum
two more years
we're getting to that point of desperation we're all waiting for perseus but then the game will be broken for 12-18 months speculative and we're all forced to go on hiatus xD
round zodiac
same bugs, different system, different ship
unable to call a dock, but in a perseus
unable to get the repair window open in mobiglass, but in a PErseus
Server Error, but in Nyx
azure fulcrum
there is always another blocked
blockers for them finishing literally any gameplayloop any core game feature
thats a really good point
round zodiac
the Building Blocks removes the pwoer triangl. Server meshing removes everymission type.
round zodiac
Pyro sun behaviour tied to Fires tied to resource network tied to a 1 year delay and counting
they had solar flares in the 4.0 evocati last november
now its november again and still no
azure fulcrum
isn't that uh-mazin?
imagine how the devs must feel about that
all that work for nothing xD
round zodiac
StarTrucker was probably made in less man-hours than SC's Engineering
and its basically jsut better SC Engineering
not only did Hardspace Shipbreaker get made in less time than SC Salvaging, they even WON THE IP BACK FROM THEIR PUBLISHER before Salvaging v3
azure fulcrum
and its basically jsut better SC Engineering
if you could give CIG one piece of advice to turn the ship around to stop going in circles wasting all our time and money....
like what would it be lol
round zodiac
all my pledging paid for hte PS5 in their new rec room
that they put in their 4 floor monstrosity in the heart of Manchester
humble anvil
i got downvoted on reddit for saying what the purpose of perseus is: Make big ships go boom; that its it. Get buttblasted by light fighters because PDTs arent bladed by default and PDCs dont do anything. More managable when armor comes in, otherwise; cool ship, big ships go boom.
round zodiac
compared to redditors, we're very realistic copers
Redditors think PErseus will cure cancer
lone bloom
Redditors think PErseus will cure cancer
or won't change anything because it would be too op
azure fulcrum
perseus will not magically fix multicrew
it's not a jesus ship
but boy does it have big fucking guns
tawny fern
ah yes the rare "punching above its weight" class of ships
round zodiac
when they try to make a ship that 'fights its own type' people tell them to upsize a weapon
Redeemer is hte only ship that punches under its weight
hamemrhead too, maybe
tawny fern
its funny how the hammerhead, theoretically, should be able to absolutely decimate fighters, but it doesnt at all lmao
lone bloom
hamemrhead too, maybe
(HH does a very great job at bullying Idrises and Polarises)
round zodiac
2x S3 jsut isnt worth a player body in a hammerhead turret
but i think a couple NPC manned turret hammerheads will hold some ground
2 players in the bridge and one or 2 engineering with NPCS or blades in all the turrets
and you've got an Anti-Light monster
lunar inlet
Any news on Percy today?
crystal sleet
nuffin
lone bloom
but maybe tomorrow with monthly report
humble anvil
Herring says
@west verge We're going to get blueballed
I know it, we all know it
đ
lone bloom
Well if it follows scheme of apollo we should get a top down view
like the one concept art of percy
this just ingame
humble anvil
We should
lone bloom
I mean so far it followed entirely the Apollo path
every pic the apollo had, the percy got one month later
(besides the elevator shaft one ofc)
humble anvil
It's funny even with the Perseus coming im not going to take it out of the hangar much
lone bloom
It's funny even with the Perseus coming im not going to take it out of the hanga...
You mean out of the Docking port
subtile foreshadowing
humble anvil
*You mean out of the Docking port*
lone bloom
round zodiac
Sfm is the only engine that matters
humble anvil
Sfm is the only engine that matters
While a tricky software
Best childhood memories is from that shit
Oh PTU patch to public later this week
azure fulcrum
yeeeeeeessss''
humble anvil
Time to go see if the shit post has garnered any attention
No
I'm bored of it
So the take away is
From the small sample size: if you shit on a ship: Defenders come out.
If you praise a ship: the haters come out
If you bring stats: you're wrong
azure fulcrum
thats been my experience as well
nocturne raft
If you bring stats: you're wrong
u finally understand the way of internet arguments
crystal sleet
if true/false
then "false"
nocturne raft
tribalism at its finest
uneven thistle
severe lynx
shit or not
im going to use it for bunker runs 
desert gorge
yet pdcs are the only defence larger ships have against fighters
It shoulsnt be pdcs only tho thus far the thing we need is shield absorption....
Your weapon is to small ye shields are gonna laugh it off even if it sounds ass caps should not be taken down by light figther swarms
humble anvil
Caps get the shield gates but what about large?!?
This is why Perseus needs bespoke capital shield
(300k shield)
Hell even 150k shield
Hell even 50k
S3s are going to be reduced soon tm to be closer to s2
If Perseus doesn't get a small bespoke capital shield or some kind of distinguishing factor away from smaller ships that utilize s3 besides: Armor . It's fucked. S3s are supposed to be nullified ish against capital shields, not larges
Everyone has s3
fallow wharf
This is why Perseus needs bespoke capital shield
How much shield was realistically speculated
I forgot about them
coarse galleon
According to the specifications, 2xs3, a maximum of 135k HP