Perseus Pals

[heady escarp]

and all perseus owners go there

😂

then again the server will crash for sure

you know what scarier than a troupe of perseus?

[lone bloom]

Hundred of Perseus?

[heady escarp]

people shooting from behind torpedos in friendly fire 😂

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sith-eternal-final-order-star-destroyers-ships-gif-25032406

[heady escarp]

and friendly PDC disabling most of them

vanduuls be like: wtf who we fighting?

[heady escarp]

looks like an episode of stargate or doctor who

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-what-is-happening-dim-dim-what-confused-gif-26463317

Vanduuls be like

[heady escarp]

[lone bloom]

Just that its star wars

[heady escarp]

but I thought star wars storm troopers aim bad

[lone bloom]

i mean those are last order people not storm troopers

so idk if that still counted there

[heady escarp]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-10807669030885108521

[rocky veldt]

there's a theory that they missed in purpose in order to follow the mc to the rebel base to whipe it out

[lone bloom]

Considering the storm troopers were one of the elites in the empire its ironic

[heady escarp]

elite...

at that point just give them jedi swords

[lone bloom]

lore wise they are the "elite"

[rocky veldt]

iirc there's a clone that uses a jedi sword in the comics. he gets humiliated by vader and I think killed too? saw a video about it a couple years ago so the end might be wrong

[heady escarp]

in star wars 1 truth I learned was that jedis are evil

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-snape-harry-potter-gif-5508473

[rocky veldt]

in their wish to destroy the sith, they became too arrogant

[heady escarp]

ayaa @rocky veldt did you watch mandalorian yet

[rocky veldt]

nope 😂 I'm just remembering the movies and a few videos I saw. for some reason some time ago my youtube algorithm would drop me a lot of star wars lore

[heady escarp]

u gotta watch, ill give you link if its not on netflix

[rocky veldt]

I think it is, my dad watched it there

or wait he watched it in disney+. I'll have to check

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[azure fulcrum]

where the leak wat is this shit

why you always lying

[tawny fern]

can you imagine

introducing engineering gameplay loops

[azure fulcrum]

bad news

[tawny fern]

and testing

AI BLADES

[azure fulcrum]

it got redlit... AGAIN

[tawny fern]

oh

gg

[azure fulcrum]

wp

could we see Percious in Jump Point?

Is it a possibility percius experts in the room asses the situation?

fuck I'm desperate

no its not a posibility tbh october 2024 jump point was just about levski

[uneven thistle]

They usually put the ship in after it's release

So I think it will have Stinger, Shiv and Paladin design sketches etc

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I'm checking all the jump point magazines rn

but nothing before the polaris release in march for example

[uneven thistle]

Yep

So maybe in the December JP

[azure fulcrum]

😭

when do we usually get IAE show? first day of IAE no?

20th of november

at least then we'll get to see perseus 100%

[uneven thistle]

At least one episode on the first day

[azure fulcrum]

ohhh yeah...

thats right

[uneven thistle]

Well, the might hold off until RSI day

[azure fulcrum]

I hear people say RSI day is the first day of IAE

[uneven thistle]

But we don't know the opener yet

[azure fulcrum]

dunno what they base it on but ye

[uneven thistle]

Hopium

[lone bloom]

why do you care when IAE show is, or RSI day?

Percy will drop on PTU days before it either way, and drop for pledge owners on live release, no matter when RSI Day is

Same happened to the Polaris

[azure fulcrum]

o ok

[lone bloom]

Aka it will absolutely be there on PTU 3-4 days before live

and on Live all pledge owners will have it in their hangar, no matter if RSI day is the first or last day

always been like that

[azure fulcrum]

will 4.4 go live before IAE then?

[lone bloom]

4.4 is the IAE patch

it goes usually live one day before IAE itsself

did you expect them to pump out two live major patches in a month?

lol

[azure fulcrum]

IDK man I'm dead tired

and just want percious

[humble anvil]

ah i finally see the inforunners video on perseus

[lone bloom]

When does IAE start?

I want a day, ik its next month .-.

[azure fulcrum]

its cringe dont watch it lol

[azure fulcrum]

20th of november it was on the posters don't you remember?

[lone bloom]

No im bad at remembering numbers especially if i don't care about them

uh

[humble anvil]

20th

[lone bloom]

So Perseus drops likely at 19-20th live, and it likely drops in PTU 15-18th

^^

[humble anvil]

will prob drop

[lone bloom]

Aslong it works same way the other IAE drops worked

[humble anvil]

may drop 2 weeks before like polaris

[lone bloom]

Maybe, i mean Polaris needed significantly more testing

And was even at LIVE unfinished

so far ik Polaris was still in L0DO at PTU release?

Guess it depends on how sure they are if it will work well or not

[azure fulcrum]

ye polaris was rough

its safe to say perseus will be in a much better state

or is it?

:S

[midnight crypt]

Non functional turrets on launch

[tawny fern]

lmao

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/right-natalie-portman-star-wars-rd-btc-gif-24051918

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/shocking-jar-jar-star-wars-cringe-gif-13662647

[lone bloom]

literally us when it comes in a shit state

[azure fulcrum]

[lunar inlet]

CIG doesn’t understand physics

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-jar-jar-binks-oh-no-the-phantom-menace-uh-oh-gif-16041506

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-controversial-yet-so-brave-controversial-brave-gif-12046682

[humble anvil]

@azure fulcrum inforunners think the docking collar god deleted

which honestly, i hope its gone

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-jar-jar-binks-tis-embarrassing-embarrassing-this-is-embarrassing-gif-19847466

[lone bloom]

hold up

which one

like - the "airlock"

or the concept docking collar

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but those guys don't know what they're talking about they just make shit up all the time

it would be nice tho

[lunar inlet]

The docking collar

[lone bloom]

it would be extremely weird

if that would be gone

every ship has by now one docking collar

at least all newer ones with interior

[lunar inlet]

I like execute, but he has no idea what he’s on about

That top airlock is too small to be a docking collar

[azure fulcrum]

yep bullshit runners is a waste of time boomers need to find another hobby

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/ααααα-aaaaaaa-trela-trelos-τρελα-gif-17149765

[lone bloom]

i mean even the fucking apollo has a docking collar

nobody ever will use

and also in the weirdest place possible

[azure fulcrum]

lmao so dumb

[lone bloom]

I mean I can see the future use of it

Like with depressurizing, and not all armors /suits being able to breath in no atmo

to dock at a ship that has no own medical beds or such to safely transfer patients etc

But I don't see that tech anytime soon since it requires life support, ship to ship docking, and engineering

even tho they apparantly worked on ship to ship docking because of the command module of ironclad, and they worked some time on the ship breaching ship thing

[midnight crypt]

They are moving the docking collar all the way to the bow of the ship. Have the point open up to reveal the docking collar

[humble anvil]

The Problem with Perseus i see right now

is IF they go full borge with this S8 , manual reloading and ammo type esk gameplay

and its the first ship with the new 'reloading' put box into loader feature

the Perseus NEEDS to be powerful and also tanky enough to support this multi crew gameplay

OTHERWISE

Why would any one ever go above the paladin

[azure fulcrum]

lmao imagine you're gonna need munition loading crew and torpedo loading crew for each station

[lone bloom]

well if you wanna punch caps i guess

[azure fulcrum]

and they just standing there with their multitool beam dragging ammo

[midnight crypt]

I could see them having the Perseus only shoot a total of 6 to 10 times and you got to manually load in the next set

[lone bloom]

I doubt that will be an actual "thing" a single person will do

more like the engineer or the gunners themselfes

I mean i doubt its gonna run dry within a few bullets

requiring consistent reload

[azure fulcrum]

hopefully its just to carry ammo from cargobay to the ammo store

[azure fulcrum]

*rounds

[lone bloom]

*Nuclear bombs

[azure fulcrum]

*shells

[midnight crypt]

Could be why they upped the size. Have it be very limited ammo to shoot but you could shoot infinitely as long as you keep supplying it ammo

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-killer-base-gif-19514875

IF it gets the ammo reload mechanic (other than the torpedo one since that isn't new) I would say 500 'shells' per turret

before reloading

[humble anvil]

So Perseus killed two Vanduul Destroyers named Hunter.

so this mother fucker right here

it killed two

[lone bloom]

(equivalent to a javelin btw)

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that would be reasonable since they are big ass shells

[lone bloom]

i think idris has 700 or 800?

if not more

[azure fulcrum]

is that really a destroyer class? hmmm

looks small for a destroyer

[lone bloom]

There is no data about its actual size metrics

nvm it was originally a destroyer class

got re classified as corvette

Aka Idris equivalent

[azure fulcrum]

ye wtf then that thing must be huge

[lone bloom]

well at the very minimum 220+

apparantly the boarding things are also getting launched from that one

Actually one of the very few caps I would be interested in owning it (ingame purchase ofc)

But since we don't have any larger alien ships

[azure fulcrum]

I don't think we'll ever get the boarding from SQ42 where you can breach the hull at any location

it's too difficult to do in PU

[lone bloom]

me neither

but its the only thing we know about that ship xD

[azure fulcrum]

boarding is based tho, its gonna be real fun gameplay

[lone bloom]

literally

there is nothing else

not even weapons

Only partially the generic "vanduul cannon" "Plasma Vanduul Cannon"

and a unknown main cannon

would've prefered that one in the PU way more than the Mauler, because the mauler just looks weird

[tawny fern]

beam perseus wow

[lone bloom]

Perseus - K kit

[azure fulcrum]

maybe because they finished perseus early... they had time to make all the kits to sell at IAE

hopium copium

isn't it amazing what the human mind can do

[lone bloom]

Wouldn't suprise me if they sell at the very minimum a laser kit

aka replacing the main turrets from ballistic to laser repeater or cannons

[tawny fern]

if this ends up being a grey's market corsair, like the OG corsair with 4 s5's and 2 s4's, im gonna buy it so so hard

im gonna buy it SO hard

[lone bloom]

fucking most ugliest ship

[azure fulcrum]

thats what it looks like to me 100% gay market

[lone bloom]

Not even the intreprid is beating that

[tawny fern]

gay market lmao

[lone bloom]

thats the best market

[azure fulcrum]

xDD

[lone bloom]

[tawny fern]

intrepid is like

textbook definition of asymmetrical

and not in a good way

idk if grey's market continues the shiv's trend of tons of firepower glass cannon....

imagine the possibilites with perseus

we stripped all the armor for more guns

[lone bloom]

glass cannon?

The Shiv has more HP than the black

[tawny fern]

i thought the vital hp was really low

the extra hp of the shiv is just in the 2 freelancer engines

[lone bloom]

dunno, just looked at general total HP, which is a few K higher than on the black

HP more or not :p

[azure fulcrum]

oh man AI is crap

brain rot

[lone bloom]

"upscale the graphic" and the face is fucking blurry

[lone bloom]

I'd say its fixxed

Permanently

[humble anvil]

Hm

Lol

[raven jetty]

[midnight crypt]

[midnight crypt]

One of the best emojis I ever made. Infinitely long caterpillar

[midnight crypt]

Made a Perseus emojis

[steel sparrow]

Ok which of u made this......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XguvhUQik4c

[lunar inlet]

I wish I did

[timid wind]

good morning my percy pals

[timid wind]

my brother in christ the perseus is confirmed to release at IAE and it stays that way even if they dont show it and talk about it all the time

stop panicking

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/panik-kalm-calm-meme-memer-gif-20895926

[timid wind]

wait

is it panic

or panick

english isnt my native language

[lone bloom]

[coarse cloud]

https://youtu.be/xh_AeziAiw4

[tawny fern]

panickh

is the correct spelling

pahnickh

[humble anvil]

Perseus

Unless bullshit CIG

Herring... Oh Herring

Shows the remote

[timid wind]

it’s panic, right?

but then is it ”panicing” or ”panicking” when you’re doing it

[azure fulcrum]

PANCAAKING SO HARD RN

[humble anvil]

Why are we panicking

@azure fulcrum

[azure fulcrum]

i r pancake eating

https://tenor.com/view/ααααα-aaaaaaa-trela-trelos-τρελα-gif-17149765

[humble anvil]

We will bloat out Reddit and spectrum even discord

I mean it genuinely, is CIG wants to put gameplay for loading the Perseus cannons but the Perseus cannons are so under tuned

Because they're scared that their precious capitals are in danger

Hey dude I'm going to have a fit I'm going to crash out

You know if every other ship weapon doesn't need to load ammo

It's one thing if they want to use that feature as a way to give Perseus different ammo types

Is still needs to be strong to facilitate the use of an extra person per turret to load it

Oh God God forbid that the feature breaks on the next patch after the ship sales are done

[timid wind]

gameplay for loading cannons? tf?

like as in restocking ammo or just loading to fire mid battle

[coarse cloud]

Love that

[humble anvil]

Well we don't know yet. We know they want to have some kind of ammo loader and we need to feed the loader

[azure fulcrum]

IDK man the 2 remote turrets and 4 PDCs that are fully automated can take on small to medium ships just as easily I think

[humble anvil]

Like we will put I don't know maybe four boxes of ammunition and it will have so much ammunition and once it's out we can put more boxes of ammunition

[azure fulcrum]

well not players kiting you from 2.5km

[timid wind]

doesnt one of the leak pics literally show an autoloader

[azure fulcrum]

but PvE sure

[coarse cloud]

Speaking of ammunition loading CIG better nerf the idris

Or buff Polaris, and scorp Antares

[timid wind]

i mean im not opposed to that kind of gameplay but it better come to other ships too

[azure fulcrum]

I think Paladin and Perseus make a good team

[coarse cloud]

Yh 100%

[timid wind]

if its only the perseus that has that its BS

[coarse cloud]

1 Perseus 2 paladin would be a great 8 man combo

[azure fulcrum]

paladin makes way more sense than having a hamerhead

7 crew requirement is insane just get a cap like idris then

[coarse cloud]

You can fully crew a Polaris basically or skelly an idris with 7 people

[azure fulcrum]

oh he makes a good point about combing parapet and FR-86 with perseus to get the best of both stats

4 paladeen way more effective than 1 haemerhed lol

[lone bloom]

Do pdcs shoot Paladin? I assume not?

[lone bloom]

7 if you exclude engineer in perseus

[azure fulcrum]

PDCs target all ships as far as I'm aware?

[lone bloom]

No

Think the biggest it targets is a 400I

[azure fulcrum]

I flew a polaris for the FOXWELL escort mission

I think it target kotterpeller

[coarse cloud]

True

[lone bloom]

Well then its bugged like usual

Its not intendet to target larger ships

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-toilet-star-citizen-wc-star-citizen-toilette-star-citizen-exploding-toilet-star-citizen-explosion-gif-27674369

[coarse cloud]

All ships that fit into a small hangar basically

[azure fulcrum]

interesting! that makes sense tho

[lone bloom]

And M hangar partially

[azure fulcrum]

you don't want a PDC to prioritize a kotterpeller over a gladial

[lone bloom]

Or over a torpedo

[azure fulcrum]

glacius*

exactly

[lone bloom]

Would suck if it shoots the polaris

Instead of the s10 torp

[azure fulcrum]

man I really hope the 4 PDC on perseus is true

PDCs are fucking awesome

and the automated remote turrets

fucking unheard of

it will break the game

[lone bloom]

The two s3 turrets if they should be automated which is sadly doubt at release

Is very huge

[azure fulcrum]

they could just give the automated tooreet liek PDC behavior

[lone bloom]

I mean it means you can easily use the percy for lower threat bounties solo

Without leaving the seat

[azure fulcrum]

small modification to make it behave like PDC BUT also be remotely controlled by player

[lone bloom]

Sure, high risk maybe not anymore but beneath like medium and below should be fine

[tawny fern]

automated pdc's, automated s3's, and ai bladed main gun s8's, and me as the pilot with my fortress of doom

no need to worry about any gunners griefing in my ship

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[azure fulcrum]

I don't want to be heretic but if the turrets are manned I doubt they can be bladed

[tawny fern]

they can

whoever you heard that from is misinformed

[azure fulcrum]

manned turret can be bladed?

[tawny fern]

yep

[lone bloom]

Yes

[tawny fern]

theres a video on it from cig

[azure fulcrum]

wow

[lone bloom]

Always meant to be bladed

[azure fulcrum]

thats crazy

[lone bloom]

Hard confirmed by John crewe, and uh this dude

[azure fulcrum]

holy shit

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

welp P2W

XDDD

[tawny fern]

so people saying you need 3 people minimum to crew the perseus, is talking about before ai blades become a thing

[lone bloom]

1 person with ai blades

[tawny fern]

after ai blades, every turret should be able to be automated, manned or remote

[azure fulcrum]

1 pilot is good enough because any engineering is done directly behind the bridge and the pilot can take care of that XDDD

[lone bloom]

Depends on what Server / computer rack you have but for percy it means full automation

[azure fulcrum]

aaaahhhh the convenience of having easy quick access to engineering

[lone bloom]

I think hh could only 3/4 use all turrets

And idris or polaris even less

Larger crew ships have to wait for ai crew

[azure fulcrum]

you guys think a PvE glacius NPC will be able to kit a percius from 2.5km?

[tawny fern]

no

[lone bloom]

Npc ships dont kit tho

Also s3 guns

[azure fulcrum]

yep so people are full of shit when they say Percius is screwed against fighters

[lone bloom]

S3 are too fast for 2.5

They will hit you lol

[tawny fern]

ai ships are too dumb to avoid even pdc's

[azure fulcrum]

yeah lol

[tawny fern]

players can try to avoid pdc's, but ai just flies like unga bunga

[azure fulcrum]

no matter what percial will be META for PVE

[lone bloom]

Tbf pdc have fucking aimbot literally

[lone bloom]

Absolutely lol esp with 1+ others

[azure fulcrum]

yeah a perseus swarm is going to wreck everything PvE or PvP

[lone bloom]

Only pve mission percy may can not do on its own will be the strike Mission but that applies for every ship

Aslong it can wreck anything from connie up to idris its a very great range of stuff it can fight

Idc if it cant really efficiently fight a vanguard or gladius because those dont shop up in extreme risk missions either way

[azure fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pzkTjsQrQQ

as long as a porcius can solo a poolaris I'm gonna be very satisfied

if it can't then theres something very wrong lol

[azure fulcrum]

don't you think percius engines will be a potential weakpoint like with the polaris?

[lone bloom]

It will be lol

But thats only relevant for pvp

[azure fulcrum]

ye te engine do be a big target

[lone bloom]

And also depends on how the firing Arc of the bottom turret is

Also both s3 turret can fire behind the engines

I mean one is straight up between them

So fighters wont want to be there

[azure fulcrum]

the remote turret and PDCs no doubt have rear ass coverage

it really needs to cover its rear

[lone bloom]

Something like Paladin could Stick there but there it again depends on if the s8 turrets can shoot there or not

Sure a gladius could hide there from the s8

But not from the s3

Paladin might be too big and could be shoot by the s8

[azure fulcrum]

lol iff the S8 main turret can move on rails to the percius ass

its gg

[lone bloom]

Even if not

[azure fulcrum]

like concept

[lone bloom]

It may can shoot at least in some degree there

Either way

Either you yaw down so the ship behind has to stay on your upper side

Leaving it vurneable to the top s8

[azure fulcrum]

theres definitely a blind spot for s8 in the rear

[lone bloom]

Or you yaw up leaving it vurneable to the bottom s8

Fighters wont go there because its a death sentence

And all others will have to choose

If they wanna get shot by the top or bottom s8

[azure fulcrum]

pretty sure the 2nd remote turret is still in the asshole of percius and it should be to protec engine

[lone bloom]

Ofc lol

Unlike some other ships that only have a Single pdc there

[azure fulcrum]

heh

[lone bloom]

looks at polaris

[azure fulcrum]

hahahahahahahahhahahaha

poolarie is such a joke

XD laughing stock

[lone bloom]

Like, it has a way larger Blindspot there

But no defence for it

While the blind Spot on percy is way smaller and has still coverage of both s3 turrets

And depending on the enemy ship even from depending on the position both s8s

Likely the bottom one preferably tho since it has not the bridge in the way unlike the upper turret

[azure fulcrum]

theres no fucking way in hell its gonna be 92ms SCM speed and gonna get rear ended by a poolaris or idris?

[lone bloom]

So if thats the case you likely want to yaw upwards so the enemy is forced to go beneath the percy

And giving firing arc for the bottom turret

[tawny fern]

the dual s3's are in really good spots

[lone bloom]

Still doubt its less speedy than a polaris

[tawny fern]

i think the 92 speed is just a placeholder

[lone bloom]

Oh god

The s8 turret

Its fucking watching you

Yeah no shoot any ship will Stick there

[tawny fern]

yeah

you have a lot of guns looking at you

behind a perseus is not safe

[azure fulcrum]

I just hope both remote turret firing arc converge to the rear

[azure fulcrum]

wait actually I think they can converge because the remote turret style is different now its higher set so it can point down more

[lone bloom]

Also let that sink in, polaris has 150 scm, percy over 50 less? Even less than idris????

Percy would be the slowest ship in the verse

No way it will stay like that

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats not going to happen lol

if it is it would be really stupid

[lone bloom]

My bet is still 155 scm

Tac gets upped from 155 to 165

[azure fulcrum]

it propertionally has oversized engines like the polaris but somehow these engines are much slower than polaris? how does that make any sense

[lone bloom]

Hh upped to 160

[azure fulcrum]

it has HUGE engines for its size

and 4 mind you

[lone bloom]

Tbf polaris has 6

Percy 4

[azure fulcrum]

and?

[lone bloom]

But polaris also significantly larger and heavier

[azure fulcrum]

exactly

[lone bloom]

Also pretty sure cigs intendet plan is that the percy is a cap killer if used correctly

But can lose if cap is used correctly

Its to balance all the solo or ghost crew caps

Like, percy will winn any fight fairly quickly if only a few or none turrets of the enemy cap are manned

Its a whole other Story if its fully crewed, AND has escort

To keep the percy away from the ass of the cap

[lone bloom]

(Aka like caps are intendet to be used)

Like, a Paladin and polaris would be a very hard fight against

Or perseus plus polaris or idris against one perseus

[lone bloom]

Caps are force multipliers, not meant to fight alone

[azure fulcrum]

over 3x the mass of a perseus

"perseus gonna be slower than polaris"

"it has 4 engines instead of 6"

[lone bloom]

Technically over 5x

Since the back ones have to be stacked

Because of polaris Fatness

[azure fulcrum]

oh fuck you're right

LMAO

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

XDDD

[lone bloom]

1 Front 4 back

[azure fulcrum]

guess those 2 more engines make up for it being 5x the mass?

[lone bloom]

Technically one Single polaris engine should be enough for 1.3 perseus

Meanwhile perseus has 4 of them

[azure fulcrum]

XDD

[lone bloom]

And they are similar sized no?

The engines

[azure fulcrum]

ehh they are kinda smaller

[lone bloom]

Even than the sub engines?

Aka the 4 smaller ones on polaris

[azure fulcrum]

maybe half the size of a poolaris engine?

[lone bloom]

Looks like percy ones are fatter tho

Not as long but fatter

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

But maybe they just gonna get more HP therefor

At least it has 4 and not 2 like apollo and would enter deathspinn if one gets destroyed

[azure fulcrum]

just means they are harder to hit lmao

more engines is not good at all lol

[lone bloom]

Lol the back is looking very evil with the Red lights

[azure fulcrum]

man I hope they did add the lights and finer details on percius from concept

[lone bloom]

Like "hehe you thought youre safe if youre behind me?" bottom main turret turns around

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warships-battleship-uss-missouri-enel-gif-15986744

[lone bloom]

Imagine we would be able to costumize the color of engines with paints

Red engine glow

[azure fulcrum]

even if it isn't on rails I suspect it can angle the guns down there easily

[lone bloom]

Prob the point why its standing on the edge

Still funny in comparison to the polaris

This thing has 2 sub turrets and one Main turret covering the only possible blindspot

While polaris has fucking nothing

[azure fulcrum]

and probably PDCs lmao

[lone bloom]

Not even idris has alot there just 2 pdc and two dual s5

I mean still more than polaris ig

But its hard to not beat the polaris there afterall everything is more than Zero

[azure fulcrum]

poolaris is a giant clusterfuck

[lone bloom]

Yk

Phoenix has same ass coverage

[azure fulcrum]

on paper it is nice in theory it should be good

[lone bloom]

As the polaris

[azure fulcrum]

it has that one PDC but ye no turret coverage

[lone bloom]

So same as polaris

[coarse cloud]

tbh idc if the Perseus can’t beat a cap ship. As long as it doesn’t get the Polaris treatment for interior and those goddam geebles

[lone bloom]

Wanna See the bridge sneakpeak again?

[azure fulcrum]

....

[coarse cloud]

but I think we will find a fair few super hornets and other fighters running ballistics to penetrate Perseus ass

[coarse cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130578256526061568/1431559219416399983/aa4of8.gif

[lone bloom]

[coarse cloud]

There better be a whole lot we aren’t seeing

[lone bloom]

Aslong they are able to down the two s3 turrets first

They could become a issue

[coarse cloud]

yh

what are the chances these 4pdcs are the remote turrets

[lone bloom]

But afterall it was said swarms of fighters are its weakness, not caps, not large, not sub caps

[coarse cloud]

Cause yk 4 guns?

[azure fulcrum]

we just discussed how much anal defense the perseus has lol

[lone bloom]

None

[coarse cloud]

I saw some of it

[azure fulcrum]

puny fighter gonna have a hard time penetrating percius ass

[lone bloom]

Fighters arent meant to destroy

But to disable

[coarse cloud]

ares inferno running stealth could be a pain in the ass

that can defo penetrate

[azure fulcrum]

Aras

meme ship

[lone bloom]

Ares would be a target for the s8 tho

[azure fulcrum]

its also a huge and slow target

[coarse cloud]

Not if they buff the ballistics with Perseus launch

Wouldn’t be suprised

[coarse cloud]

True, and the PDCs

[lone bloom]

And the remote turrets

[azure fulcrum]

theres no way a ares can stealth within its firing range of 4k?

[coarse cloud]

RIP heavy fingers

[azure fulcrum]

its gonna be detected way earlier lmao

[lone bloom]

Percy aint a ahip you wanna fight if you are alone

No matter the ship you are in

[coarse cloud]

ehhh idk depends how good Perseus radar is

[azure fulcrum]

nooo not really

[coarse cloud]

kind of but yeah its unlikely

it also depends on the firing velocity

[azure fulcrum]

kind of not a S1 radar can detect a ares from miles away

[coarse cloud]

at 4k it could be dodgeable

[lone bloom]

And at some point running dry

Also one ares would still have a hard time even with kiting like that simply because of the ammo capacity it has

Ion would make more sense

[coarse cloud]

nah they will give us ammo as a commodity and allow us to load

0% copium

[lone bloom]

And how will a Single ares just reload itsself

[coarse cloud]

the same way the idris railgun reloads

Pure fucking magic

[azure fulcrum]

all A class stealth comps still gets detected by a S1 radar within 15km

[lone bloom]

Idris railgun also has limited ammo cap

I meant once the ammo cap runs dry

[azure fulcrum]

range 4k as I said

its not going to "sneak upon perseus"

[coarse cloud]

fair enough

[azure fulcrum]

perseus S8 have 10k range

and the radar even better

[lone bloom]

31 km em Emission what the fuck

[coarse cloud]

I’ve never seen anyone run dry on the Polaris s6 nose outside of running a 4 hour A&M event with my org

[lone bloom]

Ares aint a polaris tho

Ares Inferno has 3200 bullets

[coarse cloud]

I thought we were talking Perseus

ahh

mb

[lone bloom]

Those run dry within a few min

[azure fulcrum]

with a S2 radar its detected at 18k with all stealth comps

[lone bloom]

You wont kite a perseus in a polaris

[lone bloom]

Yeah no point in a stealth loadout

[azure fulcrum]

ares is just useless its pathetic

meme ship

[lone bloom]

Thought its more stealthy ngl

[azure fulcrum]

like the guardian MX is a meme ship

[lone bloom]

Since its not large, especially since the Front siluette is similar to eclipse

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/teehee-gif-23758487

[azure fulcrum]

eclipse actually can do it

[lone bloom]

But wont have usage of that

Due to the pdcs

[azure fulcrum]

Haaaa

rekt

[lone bloom]

Torp wont reach the percy even if he can send it before it appears on radar

Only torps that go through pdc defense are still s5s

And guess which ship has s5s torps besides the harbringer

https://tenor.com/view/chris-roberts-absolute-cinema-star-citizen-squadron-42-gif-6569680269488587972

[tawny fern]

i took the non pilot guns off

now it looks stupid

[azure fulcrum]

IDK it probably looks stupid regardless of that

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

silly goose

[tawny fern]

the tac actually grew on me its pretty incredible

i really thought i could never like this

[azure fulcrum]

why is it incredible? it has a lot of features but is it really practical?

[lone bloom]

2x s3 shields

[azure fulcrum]

that is kinda nice ngl

I haven't tried this but I assume you can just go to a bunker take out the turrets with tac and land there?

[lone bloom]

But would never go for a tac

Knowing the galaxy is just 5 bucks more

[azure fulcrum]

the cockpit view ruins it for me

[tawny fern]

the med bed is nice

so i dont have to eat or drink

[azure fulcrum]

have you tried taking out bunker turrets with it?

[tawny fern]

the cockpit is so bad oh my god

it can do it yeah

[azure fulcrum]

oh nice

[tawny fern]

i just have the tac because its on my chain to the perseus lmao

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that kinda sucks the joy out of flying it

[tawny fern]

i'd probably just use a phoenix if i didnt have the tac idk

put a nursa in the cargohold if i thought i'd be doing missions for a long time

[azure fulcrum]

I'm on the fence whether phoenix or asgard rn

[lone bloom]

You mean valkyrie MK2

[azure fulcrum]

both have their plus and minuses

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

ye

[lone bloom]

I like the asgard alot visually even tho interior looks lazy because valk mk2

[azure fulcrum]

just making a list of pros and cons for phoenix vs asgard

[lone bloom]

Dont forget connie is still in for a nerf likely

[azure fulcrum]

😭

[tawny fern]

i dunno, they buffed the shit out of the constellation

after like a decade of having s4's

[coarse cloud]

Finally got myself a VKB gladiator and a space STECS so I can fly my Perseus

better

is joystick better than mouse for turrets

or na

[timid wind]

i always thought MKB is better for big ships in general

[coarse cloud]

couldn’t allow my Perseus to be flown by something as inferior as a crappy keyboard

[azure fulcrum]

been a while since I used joystick for turret combat but I imagine moose better but joystick more fun to use tbh

I did use joystick for dragging boxes with tractor turret and it was definitely better than mouse for that

from what I remember joystick aint bad for turret gameplay its easier to track targets smoothly tbh and more comfortable

but gimballed mode probably better for mouse

the sad part is that turrets have way better firing arcs in gimballed mode

[timid wind]

i mean i look at it from a flying standpoint, with smaller ships you want smooth flying but with big ships its gonna suck anyways bc its so big and bulky regardless

[lone bloom]

I mean could also just use a mouse with freescroll

Mine has for example a optional freescroll

Does not change the fact cargo hauling is fucking boring

[timid wind]

this is my path to victory

thats like a 400$ percy

[midnight crypt]

True whales spend full price on their ships 😄

[timid wind]

im not trying to be a whale

[lone bloom]

buddy

you want a perseus

you are already a whale

[timid wind]

am i?

[lone bloom]

well you will likely spend more than 200-300

so - yes

[timid wind]

thats the threshold of a whale nowadays? 200-300?

that's nothing

[tawny fern]

anyone that spends more than me is a whale

[humble anvil]

for this game

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1oihgnc/wanna_see_engineering/

[humble anvil]

for this game $45 is enough

[coarse cloud]

tbh the fact that you can get this game for half the price battlefield 6 and never have to spend a dime more is wild

in the uk at least it’s the case

[midnight crypt]

Can eventually get all the ships in game for free but I don’t want to deal with wikelo for the idris and probably every other capital because they don’t know how to add the ships into the game that’s not wikelo

Why I buy all these ships

[foggy silo]

a whale is more like 1k on the game

[runic umbra]

Here's mine, just need to fill in some last items finally.

[humble anvil]

Good stuff,

[nocturne raft]

u guys trying to summon iris to show off her sub 200 perseus or something

[midnight crypt]

Need to see the sub 500 battle cruiser that will be $5k to $6k

[tawny fern]

-54% is solid

[lone tundra]

that seems a bit high

[nocturne raft]

[raven jetty]

Summoning successful

[azure fulcrum]

the percious fleet grows stronger

[azure fulcrum]

ehh you have to dish out another 60$ for SQ42 whenever that gets released and no its not a seperate game it used to be an add-on in the pledgestore because it is the singleplayer campaign of star citizen it uses the same engine same universe same assets

on top of that I suspect after 1.0 it will definitely get subscription based

and the 45$ is how they reel you in anyways most of the people buy more expensive ships for convenience

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1384301856980996228/tenor.gif

[lone bloom]

In comparison to other SC whales ofc not, in comparison to whole gaming industry, yes it is whaling

[azure fulcrum]

remember the Black Desert online founders pack that was 100$ 10 years ago? it was pretty outragous back then

[lone bloom]

I mean you do notice even with the CCU stuff - the ships are extremely expensive "ingame" goods

compared to other games with their items that are purchasable

(besides CS:GO, warthunder)

[azure fulcrum]

there is really nothing like it, even eve ships are cheaper

[lone bloom]

Eve - the ship battles of the whales

[azure fulcrum]

still cheaper than an idris

[coarse cloud]

The worst part about eve is it basically is P2W

you have to buy omega

To fly a ship you already own

[azure fulcrum]

well yeah you need to buy skill injectors

[coarse cloud]

And you can litteraly but

Was about to say that

[azure fulcrum]

wtf XDD

cheep

[coarse cloud]

I bet it’s either a CCU

Mor some guy renting his ship

For real money

[azure fulcrum]

no its from eve lol

[coarse cloud]

Oh shit

[azure fulcrum]

eve has a paladin and redeemer

[coarse cloud]

Ofc lmao

Yh took me a moment

[lone bloom]

cheapest redeemer and paladin you will ever see

[coarse cloud]

My brain now defaults to SC

Cause I no longer touch eve and refuse to click the play button

I would rather die that play it again

[lone bloom]

Sounds like a steam review

[lone bloom]

That throws again the question in..

When Teverian female crew for SC?

[azure fulcrum]

like slaves were a thing in star citizen banu own slaves

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1426267516304359424/boykisser-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[azure fulcrum]

but IDK if in 2025 that's gonna cause outrage or not

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-you-know-the-usual-the-usual-oh-you-know-chill-patrick-star-gif-5101404917702694329

[azure fulcrum]

I'd like to capture humans and bring them to a BMM to sell them into slavery

[coarse cloud]

Exactly my thinking

Why else would we need a big ship from wikelo

Wikelo and the banu race exist to allow us to be slaves and enslave others

[lone bloom]

That sounds like the trevor taxi stuff with the culture camp on the mountain

I mean, who knows what they do with their slaves

[azure fulcrum]

my perseus cargo bay full of prison pods

[lone bloom]

1/3 prison pods 1/3 free space for stolen cargo

1/3 refill ammo

[azure fulcrum]

https://starcitizen.tools/Slavery

only some banu planets allow slavery ugh

slave market is very much a thing according to lore at least

hurston has forced laborers

[lone bloom]

Hurston is forced labor

Fuck Hurston

[azure fulcrum]

ok so the first slave market should come with Nyx

[lone bloom]

Well

(doubt they gonna add it)

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

if so

can we buy there too?

xd

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but its a traveling slave market so could be an event or something

tevarin female slave is a high priced commodity

[lone bloom]

[midnight crypt]

Zeus MR 2026 with nyx? Busting people that own slaves

[lone bloom]

Nyx releases in a month tho?

not even

less

[azure fulcrum]

I get home open my youtubes and I have to look at his ugly mug wow

XDDD

[azure fulcrum]

could be 3 weeks yeah

[midnight crypt]

Meant that we will get Zeus MR in 2026 because of nyx

[lone bloom]

MR with Bounty V2

they did not speak about it at all

[azure fulcrum]

wasnt there supposed to be a new mission for hawk prison pod?

leaked from game files?

[lunar inlet]

you mean you don't have his channel set to ignore?

[coarse cloud]

GREEELIGHT

@azure fulcrum

[azure fulcrum]

OMG THAAAANK YOU

FINALLY

LEAKS NOW

PERCIUUUOS

[coarse cloud]

YESSSSS

[azure fulcrum]

HNNNnnnnnngg I'm LEAKING

[lone bloom]

why does that look like something from Battlefield 6 just with heavy filters on it

[azure fulcrum]

we leaking soon ™

[coarse cloud]

No sleep till engineering ™

[lone bloom]

"for only a few min"

yet he got fumbled by a CIG dude

[azure fulcrum]

🕰️

[lone bloom]

After not noticing the nyx files

lmao

[azure fulcrum]

its been 4 minutes already

[lone bloom]

its over

xd

[coarse cloud]

*6

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[coarse cloud]

The questions remains

What engineering

[azure fulcrum]

different types of fuses?

[lone bloom]

wdym "what" engineering?

we had a full preview of it already last year in arena commander, why would it be now any different

Other than maybe changes to the stats/HP and maybe the ships that are used

[azure fulcrum]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/AVOCADO/forum/31605/thread/star-citizen-alpha-engineering-tech-preview-playte

[lunar inlet]

I'm not avo 🙁

I can't see

[azure fulcrum]

I would show you but this discord is stoopid

"blocked by this server"

[lunar inlet]

nvm, I found it somewhere else

[azure fulcrum]

link plz

[lunar inlet]

thanks for trying though 🙂

[azure fulcrum]

-.-

[lunar inlet]

I can't forward the msg XD

[azure fulcrum]

ah ok np

there we go

[lone bloom]

[coarse cloud]

My memory is limited to Perseus concept information

[lone bloom]

"Talk but not show"

so they were allowed to say everything lol

[raven jetty]

[coarse cloud]

Proceeds to tell us everything lmao

[lone bloom]

well they are allowed to

just not to make videos

[azure fulcrum]

uhhh ohhhh

[azure fulcrum]

yeah wtf

RIP MX GORDIAN HAHAHHAHAHA

GIT REKT SUCKAAAA

[lone bloom]

ah so fire is now part of engineering?

and apparantly gets tested now too

[lunar inlet]

what's uh oh? did you not expect fire?

[azure fulcrum]

ye yee yee

[lone bloom]

Many will not like that, since many peeps got used to not use coolers

and use the pips from them

[azure fulcrum]

look at the picture directly beneath it

[azure fulcrum]

me included lmao

but the ships I own don't have power management issues tbh

only the alien garbage and other peasant ships have

[coarse cloud]

In all seriousness what does this mean in terms of scope of release

Don’t get me wrong this is sick as hell

But what is a realistic expectation here?

[lone bloom]

like when it will come to live?

Its tech preview, we don't know

[coarse cloud]

Yh

[lone bloom]

Its been already in tech preview last year

and after they never talked about it again until now

so...

[azure fulcrum]

sometime next year Q1 probably

[lone bloom]

can be few months, can be few years

[coarse cloud]

I would assume saying IAE would be pure cope

[azure fulcrum]

nooooooooooooooooo

[coarse cloud]

mabye ILW next year?

[azure fulcrum]

way in hell

[lone bloom]

My bet: ILW

If not then, IAE

[azure fulcrum]

too early too tell tho

[raven jetty]

I'm hoping by ILW.

[coarse cloud]

I’m gunna be that guy

[lone bloom]

But since armor isn't in there yet, and also some other few things it can also be 2027

[coarse cloud]

Christmas

Please

[lone bloom]

I mean they have to apply it for every ship

[raven jetty]

Ho-Ho, Holy shit the ship's on fire.

[coarse cloud]

I mean it’s not like we have a functioning version of it lol

[lone bloom]

Fire is the only thing that makes it better NOT having a Hangar

[coarse cloud]

but it’s not ready for PU

[lone bloom]

Because just open all doors

[coarse cloud]

I can’t wait to get sucked out of my ship

[azure fulcrum]

-.- fuck no armor innit

[lunar inlet]

feburary or march would be my guess

[azure fulcrum]

all is lost

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-genuinely-over-seal-sad-seal-breaking-news-gif-243396507301445550

[lone bloom]

don't think depressurizing in that terms will be ever a thing

non breathable atmosphere sure, but depressurizing in terms of getting sucked out? no

[coarse cloud]

It’s not an unreasonable thing to ask for

[lone bloom]

Also be smart, don't depressurize the entire ship but only the sections like engineering that are 'likely' to catch fire

[lone bloom]

Social Menus, Org implementation etc are also not a unreasonable thing to ask for - even a requirement - yet here we are

[coarse cloud]

Makes me wanna cry

at least give us some way to reasonably communicate rather than resorting to discord

like rework spectrum is it’s remotely useful for groups please

[lone bloom]

the very trustworthy social backend servers

that absolutely never fail /j

[azure fulcrum]

@humble anvil ooo jajajajajaj

PENETRATION

OOOOOOoo

OOOOOOOOOOO JAAAA I'm penetraaaatiiiiing

[lone bloom]

just isn't armor tho

Since it says just ship weapons, they will mean "ALL" weapons

not just ballistics

i wonder what Missiles do then

do they just.... vaporize the components then - multiple

[azure fulcrum]

every projectile can potentiale penetrate hull but some penetrate better than others

anyways armor is COMING

it is time

[lone bloom]

they said specificly it isn't in there

[azure fulcrum]

not yet did not make it in time

[lone bloom]

i wonder then what kind of system there is rn

[azure fulcrum]

BUT IT ARE A COMING

[lone bloom]

instead of armor

like, no protection at all likely?

[azure fulcrum]

HP maybe IDK

[lone bloom]

or just the basic reduction maybe

[lone bloom]

Still funny that we had "partial" engineering already all the time

Just had the situation that I destroyed the reactor of a cutlass with polaris missiles

[azure fulcrum]

these are drastic changes many ship will perish and balances will cause a lot of crying

[lone bloom]

Especially the larger ships

[azure fulcrum]

oh yeah

[lone bloom]

speaking of Connie, HH, IDris, Polaris

[coarse cloud]

Crying for solo idris pilots

[azure fulcrum]

I sure hope so

[lone bloom]

those will likely cry the most

because there you can't just quickly go into engineering and fix your things if solo

its a whole different floor

xD

another point for percy having the engineer room behind the bridge

[azure fulcrum]

I had a very rough shitty day but this engineering news make me happy

percius will prevail

it benefits from all these changes

even if it is a feature incomplete scuffed engineering t0 its still something

[midnight crypt]

Perseus’ comps are going to be all in one area as close together as possible so one good idris shot will completely wipe out the perseus

[lone bloom]

So... like it would do either way?

forgor the railgun is either way onehiting ships that size

[raven jetty]

Railgun is a point and click explosion simulator, tbh

[lone bloom]

the issue is : you have to hit

[midnight crypt]

It is a point, click and hold, keep pointing, then release

[lone bloom]

Also rarely seen a Idris with railgun so far tho

[midnight crypt]

They are in hiding. Waiting for the perseus to come out

[azure fulcrum]

imagine getting an idris but not buying the M kit with it

[lone bloom]

M kit was only sold once no?

[azure fulcrum]

don't think so

[humble anvil]

I'm in bed now

[azure fulcrum]

me too

[humble anvil]

Uhhh

So my thoughts

Perseus stonks up

[azure fulcrum]

they are cooking

[humble anvil]

Armor keeps your shit from fucking up

And geuss what Perseus has alot of

Penetrating Armor straight to components... What does Perseus have alot of

[lone bloom]

well apparantly they are not getting sold

[azure fulcrum]

wtf

[lone bloom]

because its not a kit

you have to get the M directly

by itsself

[humble anvil]

Ye

[azure fulcrum]

oh ok whatever

[lone bloom]

on GM it goes for 8+K

[azure fulcrum]

all idris besides idris M is useless tbh

[lone bloom]

so 3x the price of a normal idris

[azure fulcrum]

CIG is so fucking evil lol

greedy mofo FOMO

[lone bloom]

could've just get a javelin at that price point

[lone bloom]

I wouldn't be suprised if they sneak here and there with undercover accounts their own "copy applied" ships in there

to sell for even more stonks

I mean they see for how much money some ships go there

[azure fulcrum]

CIG employee can get a nice bonus that way

they get paid peanuts

and sometimes in JPEG so why not sell JPEG for money lol

[lone bloom]

lmao

[azure fulcrum]

imagine what the battlecruiser is gonna cost on the gay market

if an idris m is already 8k+

thats fucking insane

[humble anvil]

I think non cap ships are fucked

With engineering

They're peppered immediately out of the gate n don't have substantial armor

[azure fulcrum]

😄

hahahahahahha

not my paladin and perseus

[lone bloom]

ngl i think fighters especially medium and light and some heavies will have a very very very hard time

[humble anvil]

They gotta scale back pve missions now I feel or increase rewards to encourage group play