Perseus Pals

[lone bloom]

And Chroberts is funded by people with gacha addiction

[heady escarp]

[lone bloom]

[heady escarp]

its not bad thinking about it

[lone bloom]

I see that Iris

Stalking chat

[heady escarp]

because you said the secret word

GACHA

[lone bloom]

oh - you mean - addiction?

[lone tundra]

[heady escarp]

I mean yes gacha could be addiction, could also be leisure, fun

like the word gambling, you could also call it: investement

[heady escarp]

[azure fulcrum]

apparently star shitizen is very popular in asia

[lone bloom]

it is

[lone tundra]

I hear this on a daily basis but I live in Las Vegas

[lone bloom]

I mean wasn't it obvious by them having a extra convention there?

[heady escarp]

chinese corps will soon take over and sell TEMU armors in #1019852856460853258

and everyone gonna be out of job

space jobs

[lone bloom]

Thats illegal

Babies cant fly space ships

[heady escarp]

true, lets build walls over microtech and throw away the vanduul immigrants, and make the citizens of area 18 pay

wait what was that ship that could do that

[lone bloom]

Citizens of Hurston* they don't suffer enough

[heady escarp]

ah yeah, the nautilus with mines

[lone bloom]

The one of 4 ships with S8 guns

[heady escarp]

4?

[lone bloom]

Merchantman, kraken, perseus, nautilus

[heady escarp]

merchantman has it??

[lone bloom]

yes

[heady escarp]

[lone bloom]

dual S8 pilot controlled

[heady escarp]

this just made me want it more, honestly only heard about it beeing a shop ship

[lone bloom]

you don't even look at the stats of ships you like and plan on buying don't you?

[azure fulcrum]

weren't those S5s originaly or sumthin?

[heady escarp]

I look exterior first, I dont fly ships too ugly on my beauty standart

[lone bloom]

no

always been S8

[azure fulcrum]

wait the turret is dual s5?

[heady escarp]

if I cant even look at myself in mirror how am I supposed to like myselkf

[lone tundra]

kinda

[lone bloom]

yes

[lone bloom]

thats like

Old old

lol

[lone tundra]

yeah

[heady escarp]

6K cargo

nice

[azure fulcrum]

very nice

[lone tundra]

My chain is 205 now

[azure fulcrum]

I think its BS this huge capital ship can land on planets tho

not enough VTOL engines

[heady escarp]

thats so cheap

[lone bloom]

the fact it has 4 pdcs

and percy also has 4 pdcs

is funny

[azure fulcrum]

right the turret has dual S5

[heady escarp]

890j has 7 pdc meanwhile

[azure fulcrum]

4 PDCs like perseus how cute

[lone tundra]

It'll definitely get more, it's massive

[lone bloom]

Doubt so

not a combat ship

[heady escarp]

then again its all about how big the ship is right?

[lone bloom]

If CIG would be able to they would take them away likely

also from the phoenix and 890

[lone bloom]

No

Not anymore

PDC's are by now military exclusive

[heady escarp]

ah yes your right, the spider looking ship is the last one to get it

[lone tundra]

No, not really, but since that ship already has promised PDCs and it is massive, it'll likely get a proper amount

[azure fulcrum]

there would be huge temper tantrum on spectroom but then [Redacted by Nightrider-CIG]

[lone bloom]

Eh

[lone tundra]

I would expect an actual refund if they did that.

[lone bloom]

There would be a mass lawsuit

xD

[heady escarp]

would BMM be considered civilian ship even with those S8

[lone bloom]

And they would actually lose that lawsuit likely

[azure fulcrum]

were those ships advertised with PDCs initial concept?

[lone bloom]

Yes

Thats why they would lose that lawsuit

so they can't take them away

[azure fulcrum]

ah fuck I hate 890 such a carebear ship

what a shame

[heady escarp]

they will delete pdc and introduce AI crew members that come with ship

[lone tundra]

It's in a weird state where it would be a pure civilian ship for us, but it's the primary military / commerce ship for the Banu

[lone bloom]

tbf it is civilian compared to other "capitals" weaponry

[heady escarp]

honestly wouldnt be surprised, it does look cool and all, maybe a mixte

[lone bloom]

even to perseus it has poor weaponry, even while being significantly larger

tbf also applies to poolaris but whatever

[azure fulcrum]

I need moar gun

[heady escarp]

polaris is a cargo ship
its role is to hold cargo,

[lone bloom]

But I don't see the BMM anytime soon

They already said they have pure hate on alien ships

Because they cant reuse assets

[heady escarp]

of course not, its so big and slow SCM that it didnt arrive yet to stanton thats why not yet appeared

[azure fulcrum]

all the alien ships are giant clusterfucks

[lone bloom]

its because they are extremely organic shaped and very unique

So they take ages to make in their 3D program

[heady escarp]

except syulen

[azure fulcrum]

its very smart to take something like Zeus and a design that works and makes sense then copy pasta

[lone bloom]

so... like they also did

[azure fulcrum]

xDDD

[lone bloom]

BUT

At least they choosed to do it with zeus

and not with polaris as much

[heady escarp]

tbh, zeus MK MR might be a cool dorritos space ship

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats comforting

[lone bloom]

Had the Zeus MR originally, upgraded to Starlancer Max because more firepower

lol

even now its irrelevant with me having the Perseus but whatever

[azure fulcrum]

oh you

[heady escarp]

obviously with how missions are now, id rather take my polaris rented to do bounties than get a heavy ship to do those, PDC do all the job while I netflix and chill

[azure fulcrum]

yup that's the plan

[heady escarp]

hopefully percy shield is good

[lone tundra]

just bring an Idris for that

[lone bloom]

still did not apply the medivac chain because im unsure if i will use it now

[heady escarp]

unfortunately im not rich yet

[lone bloom]

Tell that your Perseus and 6 months imperator

[lone tundra]

Just borrow them from people, I hand mine out every time I am in-game

[azure fulcrum]

lol we literally have medbeds inside bunkers now and pally can solo bunker turret 🤷‍♂️

[heady escarp]

actually, Its my second perseus...

[lone bloom]

i wanted to use it for galaxy chain

But eh

[azure fulcrum]

Perseus will do it even quicker

its perfect bunker runner

[lone bloom]

• nursa

[azure fulcrum]

yeah whenever they fix the nursa medbed

[lone bloom]

its broke? xD

[heady escarp]

quick question, for you who has nearly all ships, whats the best daily driver you consider in the game right now?

[azure fulcrum]

monitor above bed doesn't work so you can't heal solo

[lone tundra]

(I mostly use my Phoenix tbh)

[heady escarp]

big gun big PP dmg

phoenix is cool

it has S5, and pdc

and a swimming pool !

[lone bloom]

Almost all the ships

[azure fulcrum]

yeah right on

[lone bloom]

And still uses the dated connie

[azure fulcrum]

just one PDC I guess?

[lone bloom]

[heady escarp]

ayaaa, still better than 0

[azure fulcrum]

true

[lone bloom]

Know whats better than

[azure fulcrum]

should've just gotten a connie phoenix when I had the chance

[lone bloom]

1

Having 4

[heady escarp]

imagine all the poor folks driving without PDC
how is it possible !

[heady escarp]

its at 10 years right?

I have one but I dont have the ltc

[azure fulcrum]

yeah probably

[heady escarp]

I wanted the green one

phoenix emerald name I think

for now I got 2 percy but im gonna sell one soon

this one

since I hit high admiral I dont need game package anymore

[lone tundra]

The Taurus was my first ever ship, I love the Connies - specifically for the Taurus, it feels like an old pickup truck - little bit busted, rough around the edges, but a true workhorse

Phoenix just takes that a step up and makes it not as shitty inside

[lone bloom]

Sounds like a drake description

But fair, connie looks very drakeish

[lone tundra]

For the Emerald you can pick up the Fortuna Legends pack with a coupon, bringing it down to 352 (a standalone Phoenix is $350 for reference)

If you're okay with 10 years insurance, you can push one of the smaller vehicles up to something with 10 years (like via a Spartan CCU from IAE 2954, for example)

[azure fulcrum]

does the connie phoenix fit the same ground vehicles as the andromeda?

Ursa?

[heady escarp]

smart
gonna go check

[lone tundra]

It's only sold during Stella Fortuna, in March, unless you already have one in buyback

[azure fulcrum]

the cargo bay space looks about the same

[heady escarp]

too late then

[lone tundra]

or too early depending on how you look at it I don't forsee a restructuring on those specific offerings, can just pick it up next year

[heady escarp]

true true

well ive not been here for too long

gotta wait

[azure fulcrum]

omg

I may just melt my asgard and pickup a phoenix

[tawny fern]

just get a phoenix in game

and then you can have both

[lone tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[azure fulcrum]

my asgard is bought with store credit anyways

[azure fulcrum]

will it be ccuable at IAE?

[lone tundra]

Nope

[azure fulcrum]

oh fuck

[tawny fern]

they only sell the phoenix in limited quantities

[azure fulcrum]

not for store credit?

[lone tundra]

Super easy to pick it up on credit though. There isn't even a standalone WB offering. I usually pick one up at IAE for funsies.

[azure fulcrum]

oh wait probably for store credit

[azure fulcrum]

aaah only downside is 120 months insurance for the standalone

[lone tundra]

It's 6 months on that Fortuna Legends pack =p

[azure fulcrum]

ohhh noooo

[lone tundra]

but, actual options to CCU other ships within it to enhance insurance

My route, for reference

[azure fulcrum]

oooh right you can do the 120 months to apply to the whole pack

[lone tundra]

(315p -> Nomad had LTI)

[azure fulcrum]

wait but when is limited 120 month connie phoenix offered?

[lone tundra]

IAE & ILW for the normal one with 120m.

Stella Fortuna for the Emerald.

[azure fulcrum]

awesome

it really makes a lot of sense to take a phoenix over asgard tbh

only downside is 80 SCU instead of 180 SCU

and you can't carry tanks but meh who cares about that

it fits ursa right?

[lone tundra]

yeah, and it comes with a Lynx

[azure fulcrum]

LOL

epic

and the upgraded snub right?

the p72 archimedes I think?

[lone tundra]

Yeah, and you'd have two of them with the Fortuna pack

[azure fulcrum]

😅

connie will get reworked 100%

and it'll be glorious cause they can't take away the PDCs or anything or else it would be false advertising

[lone tundra]

I just hope they don't ruin it, I'd rather have a Mk V refresh on the Apollo platform with downsized weapons and such than a reworked and ruined Mk IV

[azure fulcrum]

I suppose they could still nerf the weapon sizes and shields

and maneuverability (they already did as far as I remember)

its much better to have stuff in store credit, I'm glad I have the ability to melt the asgard and get something else

[lone bloom]

[lone tundra]

I keep 1350 on float for that reason, helps a lot for temporary ship usage

[humble anvil]

owo

[azure fulcrum]

absolutely

perseus, paladin and gladius are CCU locked, I shouldn't build anymore CCU chains just continue with store credit for my other ships tbh

[lone bloom]

Quad S4 take it or leave it

[humble anvil]

Yup

Perseus upscale go brr

[lone bloom]

i meant connie rework

[humble anvil]

No

forget connie rework

Only Perseus

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1430591085431750676/Perseus_lizard_button.gif

Connie just gets two torps in face

and goes

https://tenor.com/view/poof-breaking-bad-saul-goodman-bob-odenkirk-gone-gif-3134182018174735587

[humble anvil]

i cant wait to hear Perseus get double the torp capacity

[lone bloom]

1 million to reload

lmao

[humble anvil]

tbh its a bit

its a bit expensive :vvv

[lone bloom]

4.8K per torp

to restock at least, to buy its 28K

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats what I'm thinking 40 torps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfUia5SZUF4

[tawny fern]

14 minutes

[azure fulcrum]

pipi too smoll?

[humble anvil]

hell nahhhh

its perfect

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-nice-great-excellent-the-boys-gif-15593741

[azure fulcrum]

ursa rover gonna have its own bay seperate off the cargo grid so it retains full cargo capacity

pew pew pew

[lone bloom]

Officially

Offgrid cargo is still cargo

[lone bloom]

only 5K more

[heady escarp]

I like its size, any bigger would be too boring

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[heady escarp]

[azure fulcrum]

https://media.giphy.com/media/OhMKxl8Ex34Q4SE7vs/giphy.gif

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-roberts-absolute-cinema-star-citizen-squadron-42-gif-6569680269488587972

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-roberts-video-game-designer-hands-gif-17953157

[midnight crypt]

When they get command modules working. Should be shorty after that ship to ship docking and you’ll be able to dock 2 Perseus’ together

[lone bloom]

likely but why would you

other than ammo transfer maybe

[azure fulcrum]

I guess if they actually upsized the components and added more facilities bigger cargobay, armory etc if it warrants expanding the surface area of the hull I would be ok with it

[azure fulcrum]

only 2? you can dock them in tandem make a giant wall of perci

[lone bloom]

Only one docking port

[azure fulcrum]

oh wtf

[lone bloom]

forgor its assymetrical inside?

xD

[azure fulcrum]

well maybe it has 2 who knows

[lone bloom]

also if two perseus would dock

it would mean they look at different directions

because of the port being only on the left side

xD

[azure fulcrum]

it just has airlocks on the bridge those aren't a docking color?

[lone bloom]

No

[azure fulcrum]

oh

[lone bloom]

I doubt it will have double function

more like the airlock the hull C has for example on the back

in the engineers bay top floor

aka basically just two doors

[azure fulcrum]

hmmm

[lone bloom]

prob just for roof access /exterior repair

[azure fulcrum]

I wish these little 4 doors were like cruise missile tubes

[lone bloom]

which makes me wonder if that will be neccessary

because polaris has it not

[azure fulcrum]

ez eva

like with a connie

[lone bloom]

and if atmosphere

or landed

[azure fulcrum]

I wonder what the other side looks like

I see 3 escape pods

[lone bloom]

there are 2

[lone bloom]

not the same floor tho

thats likely at habitation or at the hallway

[azure fulcrum]

yeah obviously

could be symmetrical because max crew is supposed to be 6

[lone bloom]

4 on bridge floor, 2 on lower floor for gunners

[azure fulcrum]

makes sense to have the escape pod there for the lower floor gunners yeah

ehhhh

another one

4 lol

[lone bloom]

front gunner

[azure fulcrum]

so 8 in total

from what we can see mind you lmao

[lone bloom]

not like it matters

I mean, Escape pods have the very same usage as suitlockers

none

[azure fulcrum]

even if they were functional its not like I'm gonna sit in a box for 2 hours waiting for rescue

backspace is faster since there are literally no consequences for dying

[lone bloom]

i mean

death of a spacemen

[azure fulcrum]

lmao

[lone bloom]

Once thats there you may wanna wait

otherwise they said hospital beds have no degeneration thing unlike mobile beds so dunno

[azure fulcrum]

your character dies after so many respawns and you have to buy another starterpack from the pledgestore

🤑

[lone bloom]

nah you lose all your rep and have to pay X amount for your "stuff" to get it back

But you can just totally avoid it by just respawning at a city hospital

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

Likely will never switch to any other respawn point at that point then XD

Because I don't wanna regrind rep

[azure fulcrum]

fuck that the grind in this game is already insane

post 1.0 even the chinese goldfarmer is gonna be ragequitting

[lone bloom]

yeah prefer to spent walking 2 min to the airport

every time i die (which... rarely happens in the first place)

than regrinding rep and losing a chunk of my Uec

even better if your basebuild hospital counts as the same thing as the city ones

[azure fulcrum]

maybe apoolo will have no degeneration who knows

[lone bloom]

It will

[azure fulcrum]

oh lol

[lone bloom]

even space station hospitals will

likely

[azure fulcrum]

useless ship

[lone bloom]

Thats why I said city hospitals xd

because Apollo counts as flying clinic

the "hospitals" in stations are also clinics

the only actual hospitals are in cities

[azure fulcrum]

huh

[lone bloom]

Aka Lorville, Orison, New Babbage

[azure fulcrum]

oh only hospital have no degen

[lone bloom]

and later probably levski is counting and Castra II

aka sherman station

[azure fulcrum]

I just want to be able to lose all my shit and get robbed when I die

like the good old days

no magical teleporting of equipment post 1.0

[lone bloom]

wanna know whats funny?

The Starlancer is fatter than the Perseus, width wise, and just because of its shitty wings

[azure fulcrum]

I guess when you lose your storebought items you will be able to get them back through insurance or pay uec to get them back from the website

[azure fulcrum]

yep its actually very similar in size when it comes to the interior

[lone bloom]

won't happen

[azure fulcrum]

the perseus engines are in the back you see

[azure fulcrum]

what the fuck why not?

[lone bloom]

Because they already explained how store bought items will have "no" insurance but still be able to get back

[azure fulcrum]

this magical teleporting and not being able to loot players is gonna persist?

[lone bloom]

No

They explained whats V0 and whats V1

The not stealing and teleporting items is V0

V1 this will be enabled again

And you will lose stuff aka all your stuff if you die

BUT all storebought items will be in your blueprint bank

permanently - aka recraftable anytime you want

[azure fulcrum]

blueprint bank ohhh wtf

I missed that part

[lone bloom]

well - blueprints

simple as that

[azure fulcrum]

damn so you need to grind matts to reclaim your store bought items?

[lone bloom]

yes

[azure fulcrum]

wow

ok well that's at least a lot better I think

[lone bloom]

i mean not "reclaim" but recraft them

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats nice

[lone bloom]

the shit part is only that they said that skins for example

won't be stealable

[azure fulcrum]

wait is it the same for ships?

[lone bloom]

yes

kinda

[azure fulcrum]

wtf?!?? haa

maybe I should only keep LTI on me pledges

[lone bloom]

you never lose your bought ships no matter if you have insurance or not

[azure fulcrum]

cause that kinda scuffed to grind matts for store bought ship

[lone bloom]

You don't have to

just claim them just like now

[azure fulcrum]

ye cause LTI

[lone bloom]

no

LTI causes that you will never have to pay for Insurance level 1 stuff (aka base hull)

but every store bought ship has permanent warranty

aka will be forever in your list

so it won't dissappear even if destroyed and no insurance

just refresh insurance, and its there again

Insurance safes nothing but UEC

[azure fulcrum]

I know but you just said that isn't the case for store bought equipment

[azure fulcrum]

what?!??!

[azure fulcrum]

the fuck

[azure fulcrum]

what is that bullshit

[lone bloom]

They said that 2 Citizenscons ago

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but I couldn't believe it

[lone bloom]

and they also keept saying before they announced how insurance works

that LTI won't impact much

[azure fulcrum]

why wouldn't they do the same things with ships as with the pledge equipment being blueprints?

[lone bloom]

because FPS gear has no insurance

xD

and is alot cheaper to craft

[azure fulcrum]

yeaaaah but your insurance expires on ships except LTI

basic shit has 2-6 months

[lone bloom]

Yeah still will have permanent warranty

[azure fulcrum]

wtf

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

thats outragous!

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-its-not-fair-unfair-anakin-gif-16742272

[lone bloom]

they are required to do so

law wise

[azure fulcrum]

all the years of meticiously planning for LTI CCU chaining

and CIG does this

Unacceptable

[lone bloom]

They are forced to do it

lol

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-hate-them-mad-angry-anakin-skywalker-gif-3580805

[azure fulcrum]

WHHYYYY 😭

[lone bloom]

wanna know the even worse part

[azure fulcrum]

they can get away with it with equipment

[lone bloom]

LTI does not even give your Insurance level 2 or 3

only level 1

the other two you still have to pay uec for

[azure fulcrum]

yeah basic hull warranty is still a big advantage

[lone bloom]

yeah but the other give all costum components/weapons and level 3 all decoration (inside)

[azure fulcrum]

blue prints is also a big advantage tbh

yeah

[lone bloom]

lvl 3 prob only usefull for the ship you use the most aka daylie

lvl2 only for heavily modified ship

aka Perseus

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

we don't know

But you can expect prices to significantly increase

and payments of missions to go down

[azure fulcrum]

would it make more sense to have pledged for a more expensive ship because the insurance is going to be costlier ingame

[lone bloom]

well - yes

[azure fulcrum]

nevermind the grind to a more expensive ship like perseus

[lone bloom]

Prob will also have different kind of Insurances

Like military ships (like perseus) will have the most expensive insurance likely

[azure fulcrum]

this game is going to be very grindy and require nolife for the more endgame ships and content to maintain that stuff

[azure fulcrum]

and probably a luxury vehicle like connie phoenix

[lone bloom]

Obviously, that will be the main money maker, they even said all game loops will be combined for Crafting and basebuilding and ultimately rolling into player to player trading

But that also depends on how hard it will be to accuire blueprints

besides bought ones

[azure fulcrum]

you can just use other peoples ship yeah so it makes sense to just own smaller crew ships

perseus is my max crew count I don't need any other large ships

[lone bloom]

percy is 6 player max

[azure fulcrum]

I got asgard because it can do relatively much with a small crew count

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

even tho 6 player is inflated and more realisticly is 4

pilot, 2 gunners, engineer optional

[azure fulcrum]

I don't need other 6 crew or up ships one is enough

realistically I expect using only the smaller ships for solo play

[nocturne raft]

all pledge armour and weapons will give us a blueprint eventually they said

[azure fulcrum]

every multicrew ship you can use from another person

[lone bloom]

well it would've been - if people didn't cry enough

original all turrets were manned by a single person

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that is very interesting revelation did not expect that

totally missed it too lol

[nocturne raft]

they did throw out a lot of information at last years citcon so

[azure fulcrum]

I feel comfy with paladin its 2-3 crew probably it has a place in my pledge fleet

[lone bloom]

you know what makes it even better? SKins from the store / paints for those gears will not be stealable- aka reset to the "lootable" variants if you steal them from a player

• the bricking system

however armor is supposed to brick

[azure fulcrum]

whaaaaat completely not stealable?

[lone bloom]

at least thats what they said

[nocturne raft]

armour and weapons wont brick

[azure fulcrum]

welp

[azure fulcrum]

UH OHHHHH

[lone bloom]

it will just reset to the base variant with no paint/skin

[nocturne raft]

the deadmans switch is for ships and components

[azure fulcrum]

but that is on a timer

[nocturne raft]

yeh till it activates

[azure fulcrum]

so you can still steal potentially

[nocturne raft]

then ull need the council to remove it

[lone bloom]

Yes so you can get it if you're a unlawfull player to the ship sell dude

[azure fulcrum]

the jedi council?

[lone bloom]

And if you don't do it in time you need an SRV

[nocturne raft]

THE council

[lone bloom]

no the unlawfull way to accuire military ships...

you steal them from other players

and then pay a dude (less than the original price of that ship) so he rewrites it to your name

[azure fulcrum]

but no stealing skins lmao

[nocturne raft]

we dont know the exact mechanics besides ull need rep with the council

[lone bloom]

nope

If stealing skins would work you wouldn't have a reason to buy them, right?

[azure fulcrum]

sooo the skins are their funding model

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-roberts-video-game-designer-hands-gif-17953157

[azure fulcrum]

safe to say

[lone bloom]

it absolutely is

post 1.0

[azure fulcrum]

post 1.0 they will still sell ship on plebstore?

[lone bloom]

no

[azure fulcrum]

omg

rlly?

FOMO

[lone bloom]

yes

[azure fulcrum]

NEED BUY MOAR SHEEP

NOW

[lone bloom]

"FOMO"

[lone tundra]

They'll probably roll some other stuff into subscriptions, too - possibly insurance tiers, potentially the ability to use a land claim, etc

[lone bloom]

13 years development

thats no fomo anymore

xD

[azure fulcrum]

XDDD

[nocturne raft]

they havent said i dont believe, but its not in their favour to do it

[azure fulcrum]

Land claims lmaaoooo

[lone bloom]

Maybe the ability to place "more" landclaims

maybe you have a hard limit without sub

and it increases with sub

[azure fulcrum]

is that entirely sure are you absolutely certain about that?

[nocturne raft]

ur going to already need to get rep with the UEE to even get space to build in lawful systems

i really dont see them selling land for real money

[azure fulcrum]

no more ship sale post 1.0 on plebian store?

[nocturne raft]

especially with the change they did to the already sold "land claims"

[lone bloom]

Well - yes, was said a few times

[azure fulcrum]

interesting thanks

[lone bloom]

ofc that excludes starter packages

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

so stuff up to connie will probably still be sold

[azure fulcrum]

connie used to be in a starterpack I suppose

[lone bloom]

it still is

[azure fulcrum]

when it was kickstarter pledge

[nocturne raft]

still is

[azure fulcrum]

it still is lmao

[lone bloom]

so far ik even carrack

[azure fulcrum]

connie is a starter

[lone bloom]

xD

[azure fulcrum]

carrack starter ship

[lone bloom]

Would not call anything above 100 starter ship tho

[azure fulcrum]

whyyyy??

[lone bloom]

30-50 starter, 60-90 premium starter

after that its CCU addiction

[azure fulcrum]

because you have some arbitrary definition

if it is contained in a starter pack its a starter ship

[lone bloom]

I mean some ships are even labeled as "focus: Starter Ship"

Aurora for example

Or Mustang

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but most ships aren't

[lone bloom]

because they aren't starters

[azure fulcrum]

so by your definition only 2-3 ships are actual starters

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

thats just your take on it not CIGs

[lone bloom]

yeah CIG's take is that aurora and mustang are starters

others not

[lone bloom]

oh and syulen apparantly

xD

[azure fulcrum]

ok so yeah these are the official starter roles

[nocturne raft]

starter ships are typically ships that are first in a progression line

mustang, aurora, golem, cutter, syulen

maybe the intrepid

[azure fulcrum]

thats 7 ships total

[lone bloom]

Titan is not in there?

[azure fulcrum]

golem too?

[nocturne raft]

the nomad and titan are advanced starters

[agile kayak]

they hit the towers, turn the tv on any channel.

[nocturne raft]

its a mining profession starter

[lone tundra]

It's all arbitrary

[lone bloom]

Literally labeled from CIG at its release as "entry level starter Miner"

[azure fulcrum]

IKR lol

everything that CIG says is arbitrary

nonsense lol

[lone bloom]

Everything CIG says is "two more years guys"

[azure fulcrum]

hahahhahaa

I just love this starter discussion it pisses people off

[azure fulcrum]

paladin starter package

[lone bloom]

Soon Iris comes around with a Javelin Starter Pack

(ik its not possible because you can CCU max to Polaris)

[azure fulcrum]

I doubt we're ever going to be able to pledge for a bengal or retribution

I think last year citcon they said these ships are only temporarely able to capture by orgs or something

like the super capitals

[lone tundra]

battlecruiser though

[azure fulcrum]

I think Jav is probably the biggest pledged ship we're gonna have, the upcoming battlecruiser is smaller no?

[lone bloom]

They are craftable

at least bengal class

[lone bloom]

larger

[lone tundra]

A battlecruiser would be closer to a battleship, above a cruiser, above a destroyer, above a frigate, above a corvette

[azure fulcrum]

yeah in that sense for sure

[lone bloom]

Basically "Argus" Bengal sized likely

[azure fulcrum]

IDK if CIGs arbitrary definition applies the same way

[lone tundra]

pretty much

[lone bloom]

Smaller than a Bengal Command ship - larger than a javelin

[azure fulcrum]

fuuuuck that's huge

[fallow wharf]

1 Polaris vs 2 Polaris and 2 Idris, we killed one idris and disabled the second, then ran away peak piloting

[azure fulcrum]

so are you prepping for the battlecruiser? what is your guesstimate of the price?

[lone bloom]

let me guess, they were not manned?

[fallow wharf]

they were actually

[lone bloom]

wow they bad

[fallow wharf]

whole ass fleet with small ships too at ex hangar

[lone tundra]

I'm hopeful for 5k WB but my true limit is $10,000

My expected price for it would be that range too - 5-10k

[fallow wharf]

i rammed one idris and made him a fidget spinner

xD

[lone bloom]

wouldn't that blow money for a entire year? xD

[azure fulcrum]

how many crew in your poolaris?

[fallow wharf]

2

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its gonna be insane

[lone bloom]

You know whats also gonna be insane? the crew requirement

[fallow wharf]

i was fucking around with a friend and stole this polaris

[lone tundra]

My new project is turning out to be significantly cheaper, I'm not spending much money on anything else for the next year or so, may as well burn it on a jpeg

[azure fulcrum]

jav was 3000 but that was sold a long time ago

its probably worth more now

[lone bloom]

isnt jav 4.5 by now?

but that also may be my taxes ig

[azure fulcrum]

as far as I'm aware it hasn't been offered for years now?

[lone tundra]

nah

[azure fulcrum]

lemme check

[lone tundra]

It's sold every ILW & IAE

[azure fulcrum]

oh lol

no kidding

[azure fulcrum]

whut you didn't use the 20% coupon on it?

[lone bloom]

wouldn't be suprised if you cant

[lone tundra]

It was just to secure it with store credit, it rests in buyback until I finalize my fleet and give up most of my CCUs

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its gonna require a large org with lots of serious larpers

[lone bloom]

or alot of rpers

that don't know how to shoot

and die to a few perseus

and then cry in chat about griefing

[lone tundra]

I wish I had more shots on hand, it has a pretty nice welcome office at the docking collar that might be fun to sit in

[azure fulcrum]

is a jav really that dangerous? bengal looks way scarier

[lone tundra]

yes

[azure fulcrum]

wow what size cannons on those top and bottom main turrets?

[lone bloom]

I mean Javelin has the firepower of like

10 percy?

[azure fulcrum]

the wiki doesn't have any specs on the jav

for some reason

[lone bloom]

dual S7 dual S5

per turret

[lone tundra]

IIRC, 2x4 S8 remote

[azure fulcrum]

yeah those are the alt fire gattlings I'm hoping perseus will have

theorizing it has alt fire mantises

[azure fulcrum]

only s8s daaayum they look huge

[lone tundra]

may have been S9, idk

[azure fulcrum]

perseus is gonna look insane with those S8 cannons

[lone tundra]

I don't follow the Jav as much

that was Bris' thing

[lone bloom]

didn't saw him for a long time

banned? xd

[lone tundra]

yep

[lone bloom]

why lmao

piss of a mod?

[azure fulcrum]

for negativity? or something

[lone tundra]

Well, technically no, I don't think he's banned but he doesn't want to come back or something like that

[azure fulcrum]

he seemed pretty angry with CIG lol

[lone bloom]

"for negativity" pretending like we aren't consistently negative about CIG

[azure fulcrum]

oh the fandom does have specs for jav

[lone tundra]

Lotta crashouts this year tbh, recent ones I can recall are avv and blackbird, even I crashed out early in the year but I mostly kept that under wraps

[azure fulcrum]

we are lol but I can also (rarely tho) see the positives

[lone bloom]

its scary if you get its broadside, but assoon the top turret gets downed it has a gigantic blindspot (behind the engines)

[azure fulcrum]

yeah don't we all crash out sometimes lol comes with being a long time backer

[lone tundra]

[lone bloom]

like, I would see a small fleet with a Idris and few Perseus taking on a javelin

aslong its alone

but dunno if its more crew effective to just go with a javelin then

[azure fulcrum]

the mains are S8 and broadside s7

[azure fulcrum]

I think it could be possible yeah

[lone bloom]

just need to delete the main upper turret

[azure fulcrum]

quad S8s tho XDDD

[lone bloom]

Idris basically just there to distract

[azure fulcrum]

just unfortunate javalin is aegis

it looks rather ugly

[lone tundra]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/pledge/ships/aegis-javelin/Javelin

[azure fulcrum]

no shit wow it got upgunned

[lone bloom]

doubt you gonna see it often in verse either way

same for bengal

Those are clearly org ships just like the polaris and Idris

[azure fulcrum]

well depends how meaningful multicrew is going to be

and what the actual usecases are for a javalin

which requires huge coordination and planning

[lone tundra]

they'll all sit at space stations, maybe fly out to 100km from it to take it for a spin but that's about it

basically just an advanced form of ship spinning from eve if you think about it

[lone bloom]

none, best case i can think of is the new strike op mission next year

but even there its kinda overkill

[lone bloom]

soo

basically a very expensive

890 or Hammerhead

and those are already expensive

[azure fulcrum]

yeah thats what I'm thinking

[lone tundra]

that's how I view it, a fun toy to bring out if you want to show off or you actually have a group of people wanting to do it

[lone bloom]

Thats why i like the perseus

large, tanky, huge dps and all that with just 2-3 people

so its more likely a ship you can fly everyday unlike,... caps

that the engineer bay is also directly behind bridge makes it even more comfortable xD

[azure fulcrum]

yeah we'll mostly be flying up to a connie phoenix realistically

[azure fulcrum]

the design of interior and crew count is what is most important from my experience

I ain't flying a starlancer because the cockpit view is just garbage

and the interior is sooo bad

on paper its amazing

[lone bloom]

I choosed it mainly because of the interior

[azure fulcrum]

in practice really bad

[lone bloom]

I mean still , the other choices were connie or corsair

[azure fulcrum]

interior is not only ugly it just isn't practical

[lone bloom]

basically 2x drake

xD

[azure fulcrum]

ewwww

yeah I'd take a TAC over a corsair any time

[lone bloom]

I choosed the lesser evil

see

[azure fulcrum]

the reason why I avoided connie is really the struts obstructing the view

well and there's some other issues like with the cargo elevator platform going down and cargo disappearing into the ground

but that's all going to be fixed soon ™

[lone bloom]

lmao

tbf the cargo elevator on connie is still better than the one on the starlancer

[azure fulcrum]

aquila has the best struts

[lone bloom]

and only because of the fucking railings in the middle

[azure fulcrum]

lmfao yes

such a shame that it had to be MISC

I hate all misc and mirai 🤢

[lone bloom]

I mean i don't mind the cockpit view because it feels idk "more comfy" kinda

afterall its not meant originally for combat - even if i use it for it mostly only

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its really not meant for combat that's where the issue lies

especially for tac

[lone bloom]

i mean tac is also meant for ground assault

not ship to ship combat

[azure fulcrum]

it's a dropship and you have a mailslot for a cockpitglass

you can't even see the ground

such a great design

[lone bloom]

third person is the way

[azure fulcrum]

[tawny fern]

I cant wait for grey’s perseus

[lone bloom]

Starlancer engines on Perseus

[azure fulcrum]

gladineer from grey is gonna be wonderful

buccius

[tawny fern]

People memed about what if the shiv’s bathroom was from an origin ship

Cig def listened to that

Its gonna happen on a grey’s ship

[lone bloom]

Imagine random drake ship with a luxury bathroom

[tawny fern]

Just the most rustbucket hunk of metal ship you’ve ever seen

[lone bloom]

imagine the caterpillar with that

[tawny fern]

Yeah lmao

And just the most pristine luxurious bathroom

[azure fulcrum]

lol even the parts borrowed from other ships look plastic and lower quality on the shiv like the weapon racks for example

[lone bloom]

and its on the very front of the first module

[azure fulcrum]

temu shit

[lone bloom]

with full glass window

lol

every "cargo" module is a different room

[tawny fern]

Lol

[lone bloom]

and all of them luxury, but everything else is basic drake

and to shit on the caterpillar, it can lower all modules to the ground

and not just a random elevator on the sides

[azure fulcrum]

lmao that's a low blow

reworking ships is lower priority because no new money for CIG

[lone bloom]

Wouldnt be a rework if its a greys ship doh

Like the shiv a entirely "new" ship

[azure fulcrum]

exactly my point

because its a new ship it bring new money duh

[reef wind]

When they releasing the literal UFO?

Disc ship when?

[lone bloom]

Mirai disc

[lone bloom]

Just to randomly announce a rework of a ship (600i) just to never lose a word about it for years, just then to say years later that they are not working on it

[azure fulcrum]

anvil ftw

[lone bloom]

Wasnt the disk here also detachable?

[azure fulcrum]

make a grey's 600i rework instead and sell as a new ship lol

[azure fulcrum]

could be rotatable

I believe it is rotatable

[lone bloom]

Pretty sure it was detachable

[lone tundra]

yes (for the bay)

[lone bloom]

Like the command module on caterpillar and ironclad

Easy

[azure fulcrum]

I can't load RSI crucible webpage 😭

[lone bloom]

Boy is that thing ugly

[azure fulcrum]

no its not XDD

[fallow wharf]

why are there so many restarted idris players out today

[lone bloom]

Ragebait

[azure fulcrum]

flying disk

[fallow wharf]

i cant

Fidget spinner

[lone bloom]

Gameplay as intendet

Wait Till we get hands on perseus there you will have alot of fun against idrises

[fallow wharf]

kill count is 3 idris today with stolen polaris

just as 2 crew

percy will be lit

[azure fulcrum]

hmmm

it's a cool design

[tawny fern]

Wtf is that

[azure fulcrum]

the disk can rotate

[azure fulcrum]

crucible

[lone bloom]

Thank Seba for it, its a flying fidget spinner now

[azure fulcrum]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/15066-Wandering-Workshop-The-Anvil-Crucible

[tawny fern]

I looked at this and my first thought was, half the ship is just GUN?

[azure fulcrum]

XDD

[tawny fern]

Just a bigass turret with engines

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

That looks like something out of Fallout if some people tried to recreat a turret

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1430591085431750676/Perseus_lizard_button.gif

[azure fulcrum]

can't wait to see the perseus turret snekpek

frontal view of nose and turret would be nice

https://youtu.be/uPHtLPz_tZM?si=fBrIW5ajAioumfO4

Perseus will be flyable come IAE, with its main turrets replaced with 2 S8 hardpoints. It will have also 4 PDCs and 2 dual S3 remote turrets. - JC

[tawny fern]

i wonder if they're gonna postpone ai blades

like they postponed drones with the apollo

"not ready yet"

[azure fulcrum]

I'm not too worried AI blades will come regardless before 1.0

apollo on the other hand is never getting its drones..

ever

[tawny fern]

ai blades is whats gonna make the perseus solo'able

lmao

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its coming

[tawny fern]

poor apollo fans

[azure fulcrum]

solo perseus as far the eye can see

we percing you better believe it

[lone bloom]

Gonns percing and piercing that hull

[tawny fern]

oh ravit

[azure fulcrum]

XDD

[lone bloom]

Wdym, now shredding hulls bad or what

[tawny fern]

no i @d u in off topic

[azure fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnSfsNs3dQ

PDCs so cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SllUhiSkAJg

AI blades are more of a balance issue but they could just make them work like PDCs rn lol

[raven jetty]

I'm immensely curious if we're actually going to get AI blades with the Perseus.

[azure fulcrum]

its a possibility

but not sure

[raven jetty]

I hope so, because of the remote turrets.

We also got flight blades earlier in the year, though their launch was scuffed.

I hope they do it, it'd be rad.

[azure fulcrum]

yeah to really make it shine it needs to have the remote turrets come bladed standard

they should just AI PDC the remote turrets temporarely until we get proper AI blades

[tawny fern]

idk what they're gonna do

a ship designed with blades was one of the selling points for me

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[nocturne raft]

https://tenor.com/view/you-monster-frisbee-goku-dragon-ball-gif-15283099

[azure fulcrum]

its always a guessing game with CIG

[humble anvil]

"blades don't fit our vision any more for the Perseus"

Nah it should come

Probably first ship with it

"For turrets, a vision adapter specialized for unmanned turrets was added, which allows vision perception to be enabled for security systems."

See what they'll do

[tawny fern]

yeaaa

im hoping

[humble anvil]

Like; Surely right

[tawny fern]

i guess it wouldnt be too surprising if they just unveiled the ai blade tech like right before iae right

like here it is!

[humble anvil]

I'm assuming we're going to see blade functionality for the hammerhead , and Perseus

N maybe the Paladin lol

[tawny fern]

if they introduce ai blades, its gonna shake up the meta tremendously

even if they're like crappy ai blades

[humble anvil]

I would take crappy over nothing

[tawny fern]

hurricane/scorpion/paladin are gonna be crazy

[humble anvil]

I hope they do something. Sooner than later. Engineering is coming

Would be nice to free up some slots so engineer can run around

Real curious how engineering is going to affect things. Right now the fuse pops and it's a scramble to find the red fuse

Be nice if engineering station shows fuse % etc etc

How Tanky will armor be

Really going to shake things up.

Idris legit from 14m to probably 20 mil effectively sincerely it's medium capital armor

Meanwhile Polaris 4m(?) light ass Armor

So what? 5/6mil?

[tawny fern]

yeah who knows

[fluid matrix]

So how do you exit the elevator when the turn radius of the huge size 8 cannon downstairs is in the way? You think bottom turret gets disabled if elevator is out?

We gonna have to use the cargo exit if not docked?

[humble anvil]

they did say we would have an elevator towards the rear of the ship, even though concept shows it towards the front so im not sure there. it does look like an elevator inbetween the bottom turret barrels.... right

the current assumption is that the turret on the bottom will rotate back and move out of the way when not in use or will move when elevator coming down

[humble anvil]

this is also possible

@coarse cloud Mother fucker

Praise Perseus?

it is you

[coarse cloud]

yes

[humble anvil]

i seee ur ass in globall

[coarse cloud]

i see yours

[coarse cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130578256526061568/1431559219416399983/aa4of8.gif

i thought your existance was a myth outside this discord @humble anvil

[humble anvil]

no, just under another name

im duping armor right now so i cant see global

[humble anvil]

[coarse cloud]

[coarse cloud]

sussy guy

[humble anvil]

hey man, people dupe components like candy

[coarse cloud]

True true

[humble anvil]

they wipe after patch.

the armor duped does not

[coarse cloud]

This must be some obscene method

[coarse cloud]

Whattttt

[humble anvil]

i think armor dupe will get patched real quick when CIG gets ahold of it

because it will affect their patch bundle armor

[coarse cloud]

For ovbs reasons

[coarse cloud]

True

[humble anvil]

it also affect wikelo armors

which kinda undermines that entire loop right

[coarse cloud]

Yeah it’s nuts

sounds like it

[humble anvil]

takes alot of value away from a timegate n problem they made

[coarse cloud]

but UIDs?

[humble anvil]

it nulls

[coarse cloud]

👁️ 👁️

[humble anvil]

i think they could make a change to remove null items, but it seems ilke it carries a new id

but the new id is just

'null'

[coarse cloud]

lol

[humble anvil]

nope

nvm

its a complete new id

straight up new id

prob why it doesnt wipe

[coarse cloud]

Definitely a Nyx wipe then @humble anvil

[humble anvil]

im hopeful for it the game needs it bad

because of exploits like this and the money exploits

we have inflation unlike anything we've ever seen

janalite bug messed up shit baaaad

[coarse cloud]

fr

[humble anvil]

peopel did it so much they went over the bit limit

and went negative

[coarse cloud]

bruh

is this a new method

Or did they break smth

Again

[humble anvil]

what the armor dupe?

its been in the game foreverrrrrrrrrr

been quiet about it for fuck

8 patches

[coarse cloud]

goddam

what about the Brazilian group

lmao

[humble anvil]

yeah i just told em about it, try to spread it a little get the prices down on stuff

im sure someone will leak it

and then its patched but whatever

[coarse cloud]

Probs

I mean imo

A wipe at nyx

Is needed

Idrc about the exploits

but please wipe CIG

[humble anvil]

they need to wipe for nyx because they need to get data on nyx and nyx trading

nyx missions etc

[coarse cloud]

True

time to pledge some ships then lol

and give some auec out

How certain are u they will wipe?

[humble anvil]

not cetain at all

they usually announce wipes

we'll prob hear more about it after IAE

they need players to test n play the ptu etc

[steel sparrow]

when can we expect a PTU for 4.4 :/

they gotta get Nyx tested before 4.4 right?

and maybe Perseus? ; )

[azure fulcrum]

This week

[lone bloom]

Perseus unlikely

[crystal sleet]

imagine if engineering EVO uses the Perseus as teh test bed

[lone bloom]

More likely ammo reload no?

[crystal sleet]

yeah, but also armour t0

[humble anvil]

They're going to want to ge that right on Perseus

honest say its more important perseus releases in a good spot than any other ship as they're mostly smaller or irrelevant

[coarse cloud]

i hope we at least get better ballistic balancing

that what is current

im also sad that we wil lose this chat

:(

[humble anvil]

really?

[humble anvil]

bbut imo think the s8's will be true S8, not 7.5

[coarse cloud]

we can only pray, they will do whatever they feel like because of bespoke

[humble anvil]

they run into the problem of making an accessible ship to the masses; with great power