Perseus Pals

[round zodiac]

A single player campaign by any other name is still the single player campaign of its multiplayer product

[azure fulcrum]

SQ42 is an interactive movie tho

[round zodiac]

So are all final fantasies then

[azure fulcrum]

my IQ is below zero and I'm doing fine xD

[lone bloom]

How to tell the discussion partner has no arguments anymore? Him insulting you consistently

xD

Literally - everytime

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-lizard-lizard-button-lizard-tom-the-lizard-pixar-gif-17194109322617058326

[normal fossil]

tell yourself what ever helps you sleep at night

[lone bloom]

I will 😛

[round zodiac]

I think normals will see 'squadron 42 has released' and think 'thats the single player star citizen thing, right?

[lone bloom]

Yeah tell that him without getting insulted :p

Sold as two different 'modules' simply

Instead of being fused together like other publishers/studios would do it

[round zodiac]

Cloud Imperium Game.

[azure fulcrum]

*Clown Incompetent Game.

[lunar inlet]

wtf have you guys been talking about? why do I have like 300 unread msgs?

did I miss percy information?

[round zodiac]

Na, senseless arguments

[lunar inlet]

wundervul

[round zodiac]

Semantics of sq42 is a second game or just the campaign of SC

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-you-know-the-usual-the-usual-oh-you-know-chill-patrick-star-gif-5101404917702694329

[round zodiac]

Oh and a few hundred messages about the expected range the cannons might have at s8

[lone bloom]

(so there was relevant info)

[round zodiac]

Well we pointed at existing ranges and then discredited them

Like improv, but instead of Yes, and. It was Yes, but

[lone bloom]

My opinion is still the same, even if it might have 5K range - or even 10K as imaginary range, it wouldnt be usefull unless the target is stationary because we all know the velocity will be low

I mean... it gives options i guess at best?

[azure fulcrum]

https://imgur.com/xNoORsi

we haven't the faintest idea they might've given it railgun velocities it's just guessing at this point

the sillhoutte of the medusas look very railgun to me

it has the rails and empty space in the middle

the "barrels" have see through slits

you can see the light passing through the barrels

[humble anvil]

Perseus PTU 11/09

[azure fulcrum]

perseus railgun turrets ∞ velocity

[round zodiac]

It'll be a very unreliable lead for sure

Great at fighting things heading right for you

[crystal sleet]

no Perseus sneekpeek 🙁

[azure fulcrum]

medusa

[crystal sleet]

that remote turret concept looks so fucking cool

[round zodiac]

since the guns are called Medusa, naming your Perseus Stoner would be lore accurate

[lunar inlet]

where can one find that document?

[fallow wharf]

Does this club stay open when we get our ship?

I don’t want to lose this brotherhood

[lunar inlet]

yes

[round zodiac]

of course, its really only the Leaks channels that get dormant or retired after its thing its released

[raven jetty]

Unless the channel dies out and no one wants to discuss it anymore - but come on. It's the Perseus.

Who doesn't love the Perseus?

[south spoke]

Drake fans
Drake fans dont love the perseus

[fallow wharf]

We can do both

[round zodiac]

we will shoulder the burden

[fallow wharf]

Honestly my most existing ships

[azure fulcrum]

https://starcitizenspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Jump-Point-08.12-Its-a-Gas.pdf

[round zodiac]

seems the elevator will be able to go to the ground, if they go by the QnA

Is the cargo elevator the only entrance into a landed Perseus, or is there a dedicated entrance for personnel?

There is a dedicated personnel entrance located on the bottom of the ship to the rear behind the cargo elevator.

makes sense for that to be the crew elevator extending to ground

you could load cargo or vehicle into the cargo elevator, send it up, then ride the elevator straight to bridge

[fallow wharf]

But isn’t that the outdated qna

[round zodiac]

its a QnA that they could choose to not adhere to at any time

[fallow wharf]

I am not 100% sure they kept the elevator from ground to bridge

[round zodiac]

its from december 9 2020

[fallow wharf]

Rather from cargo to bridge

[round zodiac]

itd be quite connie like to let it go to tground

[fallow wharf]

Reminds me a lot of the 890jump tbh

One that goes directly to bridge would be neat to some extend but can cause easy access to third party

[fallow wharf]

That’s rather optimistic

[midnight crypt]

They need to add 2 more small flight decks going towards the back of the ship to add another Perseus

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/fairlyoddparents-dinkleberg-gif-4141833

[lone bloom]

Got you there (+ internal hangar)

[fallow wharf]

Solo bengal operators

I can smell them from here

[lone bloom]

Is it solo if it has 6 perseus top gunners? xD

but otherwise doubt that would be usefull, on a bengal at least

[fallow wharf]

Bengal is a bigger idris

And idris very rarely is crewed

I pirated 3 yesterday

They often don’t even know their own ship layout

[lone bloom]

how can you buy a ship worth thousands

and not know the layout?

[fallow wharf]

I despise capital owners who don’t know each inch of their own ship

I respect solo pilots that are aware of every single function and corner of their own ship as they at least know what they can do and what they do operate

[raven jetty]

Need a Grey's Market version where the Kraken Bridge is just replaced with a whole-ass Perseus as the Command module.

[fallow wharf]

Kraken is using ironclad parts and the bridge is 80% taken from ironclad assets

At least they do look good

[coarse cloud]

whatttt

[lone bloom]

I mean - technically - he aint wrong

[humble anvil]

Perseus OwO

[lone bloom]

Hangar that goes through the entire ship from tip to end

[fallow wharf]

[coarse cloud]

not same roles though

[lone bloom]

so technically - a C2 is a smaller bengal

[lone bloom]

Ofc not, different size classes lol

But it can do the same stuff

[coarse cloud]

Idris is a fleet support ship and a brawler / carrier

[fallow wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/firing-attack-shot-shooting-star-destroyer-gif-9394419841825674730

[lone bloom]

Or command ship

[coarse cloud]

Bengal is a “mothership” or central command package

[fallow wharf]

Perseus is a smaller star destroyer

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

FUnny that the Percy is not even inspired by a stardestroyer

Its inspired by a fucking shark

[coarse cloud]

not if they upsize it

[fallow wharf]

What is your wish size that also remains realistic

I would like it to be 120-130m

[coarse cloud]

Wish size? 120x60x25

[fallow wharf]

Length

[lone bloom]

150 meters, 2 front top turrets, 1 between engines top, + the front railgun

[coarse cloud]

realistically it will either be 100x50x21

Or worst case it will be somting horrific

like 115x65x25

[fallow wharf]

Fuck I just came

[coarse cloud]

and have got wider

[coarse cloud]

right

I would sell the house

For that

[lone bloom]

Just basically a SC version of a RL WW2 battleship

had somewhere artwork of that

[coarse cloud]

lol

[fallow wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/ruthless-warship-gif-25562945

[lone bloom]

Basically like that, yes

two front main turrets, one in back xd

now make the turrets tripple or quad barreld and we cookin

[fallow wharf]

Yamato Japanese warship

[lone bloom]

oh yeah and place one more remote dual S3 on bridge

[fallow wharf]

I was thinking imagine they shoot railgun projectiles from the middle while both barrels are just chargers

Or triple barrel ballistic

Both cool

[coarse cloud]

give us the paladin turret but with Gatlings

4xs3

[fallow wharf]

Triple barrel is something the game is missing

[lone bloom]

Because it would require the turret to become remote

[fallow wharf]

Make it slow to balance it

[lone bloom]

unless they somehow add the gunner cabine ontop

which would look awkward

[coarse cloud]

Just do the javelin Side turrets no

Have them slightly below

[lone bloom]

But we even got robbed of the original navy blue, so i doubt they want "naval" related stuff

[fallow wharf]

As far as I heard the base paint is good during testing

[sage python]

Or crewed behind the breeches with binocular or side mounted optics, just like how real triple mounts are

[lone bloom]

They aint tripple barreled?

[fallow wharf]

Unless they change it now

[coarse cloud]

noo but they are slightly below the gunners window

so they could do a more extreme version

For Perseus

[fallow wharf]

CiG

[lone bloom]

Well would make it semi remote with extra steps, since ultimatiley you will still just look out of a camera same as you would if its remote xD

[sage python]

having spent considerable time inside an IRL 8" triple mount main turret, plenty of room to crew in SC terms lmao

[humble anvil]

Fukn CIG

[sage python]

systems wise still not "remote" because all of the controls are inside the turret

[lone bloom]

Croberts when he saw the navy blue

[sage python]

Are tank turrets remote now that they use TV-based optics systems?

No, the crew is inside the turret

[fallow wharf]

I delete to be safe as it may be seen as political

Don’t want to land in klescher again

[lone bloom]

[lone bloom]

Still has the elevator bug likely

[fallow wharf]

[lone bloom]

I'm still angry.

Paladin has a Armory and Perseus aint

And argument for Perseus not having an armory was that its role does not require one, yet paladin has the same role and has one

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

Maybe they realized that the concept layout kinda uses way too much space for the crew habitation, and slimmed it down to squeeze in a armory

[humble anvil]

[crystal sleet]

would make sense, theres probably enough room to add a small armoury and medbed if they used the RSI bunkbeds instead of the single beds

[lone bloom]

They will absolutely use the bunkbeds either way

I mean, they even fucking copied the whole Polaris Bridge

and just slimmed it down

[crystal sleet]

look at how much volume the concept crew quarters take up

[lone bloom]

wonder how it took a whole year then to build the Percy if its literally should turn out for a mostly copy paste asset ship

[crystal sleet]

you can reduce it to 50% if they used bunks instead of single beds here

[lone bloom]

also - there are still no bathrooms xD

[crystal sleet]

maybe they were mixing and macthing polaris AND zeus parts? The Persus bridges the gap between medium and capital class ships

[crystal sleet]

there are, just not actually modeled here

[lone bloom]

still also worried about captain quarter, hope they do not just copy paste the polaris one because its still ugly but they look very similar on the concept

[crystal sleet]

captains quarters toilet in the same place as the Polaris toilet, and crew quarters has one either on the starboard side wall or stern side wall

[crystal sleet]

they could also shrink the captains quarters too, the same size as the Polaris with some better QOl stuff

[humble anvil]

Dw lads

It's going to be great

Armory by Eva / Bridge Deck

[lone bloom]

I mean at the very minimum there have to be 3 suit lockers

Because of the airlock

(which i still hate)

[humble anvil]

There will be

[crystal sleet]

and if we need to, we can probably store guns in storage inventories

[raven jetty]

Has it even been confirmed there's no armory? Or is that speculation just based on the past concept?

[crystal sleet]

lemme go check

[crystal sleet]

this was what was originally said in concept, but then John Crewe or someone said that we could expect a small rack and a suitlocker near each ship entry point. I cant remember where or when that last point was said

[raven jetty]

Was that part of the original qna or more recent? Its not nearly as much of an in-atmo ship as the Paladin would be, so it does make sense given its greater size that they aren't planning ground actions as often, but I'd assume we'd have some form of weapon locker or suit locker in the cargo bay or near it.

[crystal sleet]

original QNA, there hasnt been any new written QNA, only what weve heard in that bar citizen interview this year

[raven jetty]

Im wondering how much the internal layout has changed over time.

[humble anvil]

Hey if they lean into the ship role

Then we know it's going to be a killer

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-18978923

[humble anvil]

1mil hull HP Perseus

Is basically guaranteed

[raven jetty]

Absolutely digging the larger ships we've been getting recently, definitely starting to round out fleet compositions - and also Task Groups next year, going to be a good time. Hoping we get some of the social group-finding options so it's easier to organize fleet for events and get crews together.

Feels like a large portion of that is still going to remain as discord organization, but still.

[crystal sleet]

the Perseus is gonna be the middle ground of all large ship combat, perfect crew requirement, powerful but not too OP. Small enough to maintain compared to larger ships

[lone bloom]

well just the absolute limit for people that do not want Org or like org gameplay

[sage python]

beefed up crew compartment they probably did add one

[humble anvil]

Paladin: Gunship
Gets an Armory

Perseus: Heavy Gunship / Gunboat
No Armory?

[crystal sleet]

suppose the paladin is a multirole gunship then

[lone bloom]

could argue same for perseus, afterall it is dedicated to carry a rover and cargo

which also throws the argument out of the window with "not supposed to do stuff on ground"

[crystal sleet]

no? The cargo bay just happened to fit a rover

[lone bloom]

Still explicit said it will carry a Ursa sized rover

[raven jetty]

Yeah, the rover is a happy accident though it was noted in brochure.

[humble anvil]

I'll actually be upset if they change the role of Perseus to multi role or some other theoretical

[lone bloom]

i mean "happy accident" also sounds more like lore wise accident, every concept of the percy included the rover xD

It was designed in mind with having the ability to carry one

[crystal sleet]

Perseus is too specific to be ever be relabled as multirole, especially with bespoke cannons

[lone bloom]

Paladins role remained the same, even after adding cargo and having an armory

If the space is there, why not use it

I mean - people even fucking cried it has no medbay

i mean at that size (or larger) every ship should have one - but its i think gameplay wise not a neccessarity

[humble anvil]

Perseus 🥺

[humble anvil]

Yes

[azure fulcrum]

Perseus is perfect the way she is at 100m. Pls no mentally molest percius

Any change from concept is heretical

How dare you defile the perfect perseus

[lone bloom]

looks at the Sneakpeak bridge

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/purge-heresy-wh40k-warhammer-exterminatus-extremis-gif-13767113

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-it-with-fire-missiles-more-missiles-all-the-missiles-megas-xlr-gif-25111969

[sage python]

interesting

the blades better come w the pledge and not be a kit

istg

[humble anvil]

I swear too

Another reason for price hike

Is first ship with blades besides PDC

And it gets PDCs

[coarse cloud]

I really doubt they leave on out

Especially with all the shit that they have been getting for lack of features or bland interiors

[sage python]

i alr own the percy so as long as it stays part of the pledge its fine by me tbh

[coarse cloud]

165 SCM?

holeee

[sage python]

i certainly don't plan on buying another one

[round zodiac]

only place for it would be the bedrooms or rec room, really

itd be odd to put it in the front engineering/turret room

[coarse cloud]

A 10 minute claim time is copium

[round zodiac]

i expect similar claim time to carrack

[coarse cloud]

Around the cargo bay

or near?

[coarse cloud]

Isn’t that like 1h or 20 min expedited

[round zodiac]

armoury shouldnt be in the room that depressurizes

[coarse cloud]

Or what is it

[coarse cloud]

True

I mean nearby could be an option though

[round zodiac]

yae, maybe some weapon racks in the hall between cargo lift and rear hab

opposite the elevator

[sage python]

Armory should realistically be as far from any main entrance/exit as possible

[coarse cloud]

Do you work for cig

[sage python]

so near cap quarters is likely if that is still gonna be a thing at the back of the mid deck

[coarse cloud]

They should hire you

[sage python]

lol no

if only

[coarse cloud]

because that is the wirst idea

[round zodiac]

i see it as kinda the opposite that the armoury and warddrobes go right by the EVA point so you gear up as late into the run as possible

[coarse cloud]

I have ever heard

[sage python]

I'm a mechanical engineering student maybe they need a technical consultant for something

[round zodiac]

armoury is a strong word, to be fair

i would expect like 10 gun rack on the wall

[coarse cloud]

Explain

[round zodiac]

more like a clothes hangar than an 'armoury'

[coarse cloud]

Unless it’s for anti boarding

[sage python]

The theory behind it is the armory is kindof a stronghold to A) protect the weapons/munitions and B) serve as a single-entry defense point that doesn't really need to be set up

[coarse cloud]

idk why that would make sense sense

[round zodiac]

armoury in the Zeus MR for example replaces the lounge and better matches your idea of it

[humble anvil]

$900 Perseus

[sage python]

this mainly applies to bigger ships, smaller ships yeah it'll go where it can fit

think castles vs. FOBs

[round zodiac]

sure, if you lose control of your point of ingress, they'll have your armoury, but you most likely went straight for it and geared up before they breach

[coarse cloud]

The opposite surely, if it was to detonate or catch on fire you would want it in a non essential area

[shadow oasis]

Is this some self made Perseus stat page you made of data from files?

[coarse cloud]

It’s bollocks and some copium

[sage python]

small arms detonations are much less significant than things like ship ammo

[round zodiac]

the armoury in a many-crew ship should be deep, yes. but a 6 man compact brawler like this is more likely to be breached in the cabin airlock, not hte belly

[sage python]

that is true

Percy is at an awkward size

where it is just barely not a subcap but also is a subcap

[round zodiac]

its the perfect size to minimize hallways and maximize room size

unlike galaxy and hammerhead that are all halls

[coarse cloud]

still, having any sort of ammo storage you would not want it near the interior rooms, but at the belly where it is not likely to be shot and where the armour is thick, aswell with on Perseus any significant damage to the belly won’t affect combat performance

[sage python]

I suppose since the percy is a space combat oriented ship you're right

I was thinking more along the lines of an assault ship or something tbh

we should lowkey get a big assault ship

i guess ironclad but i want an RSI one...

and like sure i guess polaris alr does that

meh

actually polaris is in fact a great assault ship holy moly I forgot it existed for a second 😭

[coarse cloud]

eh

not sure if I can agree

with the recent wind thing or whatever

It really struggles in atmosphere

[sage python]

if they gib HE for the chin turret, land a polaris and all of a sudden you have respawn, a well protected armory, a hangar for a small bomber of some kind, and a giant bay that might just need a little more headroom for ground vehicles

land that jawn 5 clicks out from a target nand you can deploy a pretty considerable force from a very solid mobile base

[coarse cloud]

Kraken?

That’s the endgame assult ship

[sage python]

Would likely also be able to do that

[coarse cloud]

If it can fly in atmosphere

ofc

[sage python]

yeah

the Polaris actually has enough maneuver thrusters to make it to a landing point

It certainly wouldn't participate in the assault though

[coarse cloud]

Problem is it’s a sitting duck for Anyone in a bomber

[sage python]

PDCs don't engage bombs?

[coarse cloud]

Stealth build A1, Gladius or eclipse

[sage python]

Also the top turrets aren't exactly small

[coarse cloud]

Not if you get close enough they can’t react

they also don’t engage even if they are meant to half the time

[sage python]

Fair, then have a couple people stay back on the ship for overwatch

Stealth gotta be reworked tbh because it's kinda BS

[coarse cloud]

eh I mean I think it need balancing but not a rewoed

[sage python]

but idk i guess the CIG designers aren't super educated on how to reduce the radar cross section of a craft

and a ship is going to spit out a comical amount of IR no matter what

[coarse cloud]

They should just decrease power output of stealth power plants

and reduce sheild up

*hp

[sage python]

In atmosphere it should be impossible to achieve IR stealth

Atmospheric heating, engines constantly shitting out hot gas

[coarse cloud]

Cig will argue that power plants affect what the engine is doing

[sage python]

IR stealth should really only apply for reducing detection range in space

[coarse cloud]

Or smth odd

[coarse cloud]

How would it be any different

Ofc vacuum

[round zodiac]

or some hamfisted value that isnt systemic

[coarse cloud]

but how would scaling work

[lone bloom]

Just turn of engines

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

falls from sky like a rock

tbf they said gliding will be a thing without engines

[sage python]

What I mean is, basically anything ever should be within IR detection range if it is within range of bombing or torpedoing a target on the surface of a planet

[round zodiac]

ships should also have additive thrust. why does changing out of NAV cut your speed. just dont fire he retros!

video gammesss

[raven jetty]

Engine-Braking with a spaceship has always been a good humor, for sure. If it works with a Semi, it should work with a spaceship! /s

[humble anvil]

Tbh it is a bit scuffed why we drop speed from nav

[sage python]

yeah realistically this should be the only way to reduce IR signature but then you are gliding so its either a low and slow approach or come straight top down which risks big atmospheric heating

[lone bloom]

Well, its good to slow down very fast when approaching something with very high speed at least xD

Use it always as airbreak xD

[round zodiac]

ED has silent running which closes all heat ports. your ship internal temp skyrockets, but other sigs go down

[sage python]

"Nav" meaning navigation, and because if inertia, if you are moving very fast, to navigate into a new direction would require a lot more energy

Changing your direction by 90 degrees is far far far easier at 200m/s than at 1100m/s

thats just how vectors work

[round zodiac]

yea, but just turning off NAV back into SCM drops you from 1100 to 200 in a couple seconds

firing huge retro thrust for game mechanics

even in decoupled

[sage python]

i had it backwards I meant SCM

same reasoning

[round zodiac]

cant just NAV up to 1100, then decoupled coast in SCM

[lone bloom]

Also - do we thing the weekly sneakpeak this week will be full Perseus Exterior ? I mean they did the same with Apollo after the Bridge

[sage python]

SCM you are going to want to be able to change your velocity vector as quickly as possible

which means you need to be going slower

[round zodiac]

i meanjust being like... a horseback archer

[sage python]

because of basic kinematics

[round zodiac]

send horse flying straight direction then Yaw in place to stay on target while zoomin

[lone bloom]

btw kinda pointless to argue about nav and SCM since we do know that Nav won't exist in the near future either way

[round zodiac]

yea, itll be changed to some sort of scale.

minimodes

[lone bloom]

They just remove Nav

lol

[raven jetty]

I mean, as a game mechanic it's fine. I assume there's lore reasoning for the jump drive to have a higher drag on space-time, warp what-have-you, but im hoping we get quantum boosting soon enough. I feel that's going to be better mechanically than the current master modes.

[lone bloom]

Nav will be replaced with quantum boost

[round zodiac]

itll be more like, manually cutting shield and weapon power distribution will let you put more in Engine

like some sort of Power Distributor in some other game

some triangle graph perhaps

maybe the copilot could help with it

i should be in the rant house

[lone bloom]

we had that - the triangle graph

[raven jetty]

They had that previously, unless that's what you're getting at.

[round zodiac]

yea thats what im alluding to XD

just going around reinventing the wheel

[raven jetty]

Okay, brain tired as fuck lmao

[round zodiac]

sarcasm didnt come across, didnt use any italics or /s es

[raven jetty]

Nw, quite literally deadbrained today.

[round zodiac]

and prepping for 2 midterms

[sage python]

SCM mode and nav mode actually does make sense and is not a bad system people just tend to think that fast is good but I agree that it wouldn't hurt to remove the hard lock

[lone bloom]

They will remove the hard lock by just removing nav speed entirely

[raven jetty]

I agree, it's not a bad system, but the quantum boost replacing nav is going to be nice.

[round zodiac]

they copied X4's homework

[sage python]

I don't think quantum boost is replacing nav it's just a new thing

[round zodiac]

it also has Scan mode, long range scan, travel, normal

[raven jetty]

At this point, just give X4 multiplayer.

[lone bloom]

It is replacing nav tho, confirmed by CIG

[sage python]

unless all ships are gonna be limited to their SCM speeds after that change

[lone bloom]

Nav will be gone, quantum boost will be there instead

[sage python]

oh ok sorry brain is fried

[round zodiac]

hopefully X5 tries multiplayer. might be suicide though

[lone bloom]

And all ships are otherwise locked to SCM

[raven jetty]

We'll see. Hope it does, thpugh.

[sage python]

That sounds like a sketchy move

But i mean it'll make quantum snares useful ig

or whatever the hell

the thingy that makes quantum drive not drive

[lone bloom]

Aka, all ships are permanently SCM speed - but have their shields (since that was the mimmimi part most people used that they are too vurneable) and the only way to be faster than SCM is quantum boost

which is technically significantly faster than Nav

[sage python]

makes sense to me

[lone bloom]

Just shitty part is that you will be completely locked to SCM near atmosphere/planets

since they don't allow quantum stuff

[sage python]

they could raise SCM limit up to Nav

[lone bloom]

they won't

because then we are back at the very beginning that the game is "too" fast for ship to ship fights

Which they did not wanted it to be

[sage python]

True

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[round zodiac]

itll be more variable scale. real power limits with incremental changes. then each ship will have some sort of engineering meta. itll be something like 4/5 power to shields, 3/5 to weapons, 2/5 to systems so you can have 9/10 to thrust etc

[lone bloom]

Maybe they up the SCM speeds to 200-250 ish (aka doubling it)

[sage python]

yeah i mean realistically any ship that will perform any type of maneuver will not be moving more than 200-300m/s

[lone bloom]

but surely not 1000+

[sage python]

because of the earlier mentioned basic kinematics

more speed in one direction means more work to change directions

[round zodiac]

just gotta move like the Swerve Star in Kirby Airride

quantum boost forward. quantum boost 75degrees right. quantum boost 20degree left

ultra specific reference, i know

[sage python]

yeah I agree making the fastest ships have SCMs in the 400 range could be the move

then things like percy and polaris are in the 200-300s

200s prob

[round zodiac]

they bette rnot go with Percy's 2020 QnA

[lone bloom]

My bet is they will double the SCM speeds from what we have now, so they can also push their WW2 flight model into atmospheric stuff (which i don't even mind) - quantum boost only between planetary scaled travels, quantum travel for system travel

[round zodiac]

94scm

positioning is key with the Persy, if we cant stay away from firing lines for our intended targets, we will be in trouble

nose to nose with Idris railgun would be a bad time, but staying broadside or underbelly will be a dream

we gotta be able to orbit faster than they can rotate

[lone bloom]

whats polaris scm

[round zodiac]

never flown one

[lone bloom]

145

llol

[sage python]

this just gave me an incredible idea

oh my god

[lone bloom]

250 with boost

[sage python]

oh my god

combat maneuver mode for bigger ships for the captain

[lone bloom]

ngl Percy should be at 150 scm 260 with boost then

[sage python]

basically EVE online but on the holo maps

you can set like Orbit > 5000m

and it gives the pilot a course

hoooooly shiiiiiiittttt

it'd make holo maps useful and make cap ship captain gameplay actually interesting

integrate it with other ships if the captains are in the same party so they can see what you are planninhg

yoooooooo

get me to CIG

[lone bloom]

Like, also displaying something like a percy in such kind of "3D" into it

[lone bloom]

CIG will read your ideas and throw them out the window because higher ups had different ideas

[sage python]

💔

but it would be so cool.....

yeah nah CIG wouldn't do that i just think itd be dope

[lone bloom]

Also quite sure they said they won't give the ability to fly "your" ships to NPC's

So far I remember it was said that only players will be able to fly player ships, no blades, nor npcs

prob to avoid people doing solo npcs fleets and lock down stuff like JT

[humble anvil]

Surely we start to see an Evo PTU build this week

[humble anvil]

Gotta make sure everything works

[timid wind]

perhaps, but Percy won't be in PTU until very close to release

but with Nyx and all I'd see the PTU starting early on

it's less than a month to IAE

[humble anvil]

Start early. Get it right. Prep for Nyx asap

[timid wind]

how soon will the price start rising

[lone bloom]

Imagine they accidentally put Percy in there

[humble anvil]

The shell will be in

But none of the stats

[timid wind]

i get paid this friday and again on the 10th and im just wondering if i should rush into buying my percy or if i can wait until the 10th

that depends on how the prices will develop

a lot of hype around this one

[lone bloom]

Price will prob just rise at that point

[timid wind]

at what point? release?

[lone bloom]

Like from now until IAE

xD

[timid wind]

ah shit

[lone bloom]

I don't see why it would fall

[timid wind]

maybe i should just try to acquire creds via gm and buy it off RSI website at launch

[humble anvil]

No

[lone bloom]

unless it should turn out shit post release but even then, the price would rise because the concept -> release price would also increase

[humble anvil]

Perseus going up up

[timid wind]

ofc it wont fall but im just wondering how fast it will rise

[lone bloom]

Well, will likely just rise slowly until IAE, maybe here and there people who didn't notice it will release and will still sell for the current pricing

and at IAE it will very likely just go

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

Because price adjust of the Percy

[timid wind]

yeah.. maybe i should just think about getting it asap for the best price

friday just might be perseus jpeg day

watch out

[humble anvil]

Check out@timid wind

Star Citizen trades

[timid wind]

on reddit yes

[humble anvil]

Maybe can get one for $400

[timid wind]

thats what im looking at

[humble anvil]

If you wait for IAE

Could be a 900 ship

Have to get creds at 50% to beat a $400 Perseus

Easily 800 ship

[timid wind]

yeah just saw one on there for 429

thats totally doable

[humble anvil]

I think I got

Mine for 360(?)

[lone bloom]

I mean i still see stuff for 330~

3 days old

can surely still get it under 400

[humble anvil]

Ravit got his for free

Lucky fuck

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-hahahahaha-i-wonder-how-i-wonder-why-wonder-how-wonder-why-lemon-tree-gif-19326399

Bappot once he is reading that:

[humble anvil]

Hopefully he finds a sub 400

Send an offer and ask if they'll do 400

[lone bloom]

Yeah with wiketroll rn its not funny to farm for ships, aslong those specific ships are locked behind him

and have no other way to get them

and Percy will absolutely be locked behind him for some time

wonder what the paint will look like tho

[humble anvil]

Bet it's silver blue

[lone bloom]

Imagine its the navy original concept blue

[humble anvil]

Hopefully they hit us with a

[humble anvil]

"if you bought before 11/22/25 , you will get a paint credited to your account"

[lone bloom]

Imagine the navy blue will become a exclusive paint for people that pledged it before release

otherwise its just the standard RSI grey

[humble anvil]

They're going to do it

It doesn't fit the RSI style anymore

But they can't get rid of it

[coarse cloud]

I would love that

but that would make so many people mad

And grey market stonks would go nuts

[solid anvil]

We are all rotting in wait for the ironclad

[humble anvil]

Me too

Ironclad will be exciting to pop

[solid anvil]

Yeah

I've wanted a cargo ship vibe for a while, didn't like hull-C

[south spoke]

im excited for the ironclad because its a competitor to the herc

but its a drake ship

[solid anvil]

I yearn for the railgun round to pass through me

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-pinata-clarence-candies-celebration-sweets-gif-17387345

[round zodiac]

i cant wait to use hte Ironclad as a giant spoon to scoop up a shipwreck

[solid anvil]

You sticking with a herc?

[lone bloom]

I don't think its a competitor

If has like 3x the cargo capacity

[south spoke]

true

[lone bloom]

its surpassing the herk by far

[south spoke]

so with that when does crusader release their own ironclad

[round zodiac]

3x the capacity while only being lieke 15% longer and is even 15% narrower

[lone bloom]

Plottwist, MSR but upscalled

[south spoke]

no

[lone bloom]

Yes

If you say no it will be the intreprid upscaled

[south spoke]

damn

[round zodiac]

C3 when

[humble anvil]

Crusader is releasing Ares Beam

[round zodiac]

what ship are you flying and where is it stored? C3, PO

[lone bloom]

C1 so far only peak crusader ship ngl, and maybe the Ares variants

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[south spoke]

okay

C1 but its upscaled past a herc

[round zodiac]

follow protocol, droid

[lone bloom]

There is just one thing, both of them don't exist anymore

[round zodiac]

do the Valve thing, C2 Episode 2

[south spoke]

new C2 variant

[round zodiac]

also reminds me of the Longerpillar meme

just add more crates to a caterpillar

[south spoke]

call it the drake millipede

[lone bloom]

Me - a superior minded one - will just use the offgrided Perseus 400+ SCU ability to cargo haul stuff

and later on the Arrastra

[solid anvil]

C2 is just the quicker version, better for solo, it's not too bad to load on your own

Ironclad can solo but.... That would be a long one

[lone bloom]

ngl i am pretty sure a ironclad is easier loadable

than a C2

simply because its more near the ground, while on C2 you have to haul all the way up the fuck long ass ramp

[solid anvil]

True lmao

[lone bloom]

and

if you use exterior cargo elevators, just open the roof of the cargo area

[solid anvil]

I love the c2 but damned be that ramp

[lone bloom]

its significantly easier to load

[solid anvil]

Tru

[lone bloom]

I hate drake, but that concept of a cargo ship is great

[south spoke]

if you open the roof and flip the ship upside down you just throw the cargo in and let the ships gravity take care of it

[humble anvil]

Arrastra such a good ship

[coarse cloud]

Nautilus because hopefully it will get Perseus as loaner

So 2x Perseus

[lone bloom]

Nautinever

[coarse cloud]

They should give every ship above Perseus price on release it as a loaner

[humble anvil]

Perseus gonna be 900$

You get hammerhead

Enjoy

[coarse cloud]

825$

it’s 675

900 would be another level of money grabbing

[lone bloom]

Uh their loaner priority is kinda clear at that point

They take the nearest "same manufacture" ship that is kinda still similar to the original role

no matter the price point

Otherwise we wouldn't have the Polaris for Percy as loaner

Wouldn't suprise me if Nauti gets perseus as loaner, afterall nauti has a dual S7(?) turret aswell

yes it has dual S7

nvm nauti isn't even RSI, its Aegis, yeah well good luck with the Hammerhead ig

[timid wind]

i agree, its almost as much as polaris

[lone bloom]

(Sponsored by @humble anvil )

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-lizard-lizard-button-lizard-tom-the-lizard-pixar-gif-17194109322617058326

[round zodiac]

should say PLEDGE isntead

[coarse cloud]

You can still get Perseus for sub 300 if you are patient

[lone bloom]

could do it now but too lazy lol

[coarse cloud]

I got mine 275 back in April

which was decent but not OP

[azure fulcrum]

Perse gunna have a pilot and copilot seat on either side...... The chair in the middle is NOT on rails it has no mfd in sneakpeek... It is a captains chair.... Copilot seat will have control of remote turret... Its fucked

[lone bloom]

I think Iris has a 230 bucks percy

or 215

[azure fulcrum]

The view is gonna be horrible for the pilot not being in the middle

[lone bloom]

that would not work. there are two remote turrets, for two gunners

[humble anvil]

Another reason Perseus get a price hike is category change. Could kept s7 but they up to s8.

[lone bloom]

from sub cap destroyer to cap destroyer

tbf they also said S7 is the entry level of capital warfare no?

[humble anvil]

Yes

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-metal-gear-solid-game-gif-13999306

[azure fulcrum]

Idk there might just be one remote turret

[humble anvil]

S5 actually I think minimum

But it's tickle shit

[lone bloom]

there are two remote turrets

they can't take away a turret lol

If they sold it with two

[azure fulcrum]

Well one turret might be automated by default the other controlled by copilot

[lone bloom]

Sold with ability to remote both

[azure fulcrum]

You can remote one at a time

[lone bloom]

Well that would reduce the max crew then from 6 to 5

unless they count in the captain as crew which is usually the pilot so dunno

[azure fulcrum]

It sounds ridiculous but so far they molest and fuck perseus so its not out of realm of possibility

If the middle seat is pilot seat where are mfds????

Even if it was on rails

[lone bloom]

can't see them because of the strut

there is a desk behind the strut

[azure fulcrum]

There is no desk

[lone bloom]

like- not even hidden

There is

[azure fulcrum]

It has the copy paste glass mfd panels and they are perfectly visible

What desk lol

Sauce

[lone bloom]

This desk

its on the concept original layout also there

[azure fulcrum]

Thats not a desk

[lone bloom]

What then, its definitely not on ground level

[azure fulcrum]

It is elevated platform where both sideseats rest on

[lone bloom]

but the middle isn't elevated

i mean, you have to elevate from something no?

[azure fulcrum]

Right

[lone bloom]

the middle is 2-3 stairs down

so there is your deks

desk

I mean even the chair in the back is very visible not the same height as the other two

[azure fulcrum]

It doesnt look like a desk at all tho

Even if it were the pilot desk then the strut obstructs the pilot view entirely

[lone bloom]

If the pilot isn't able to look over it, yes its shit

[azure fulcrum]

It just doesnt add up

[solid anvil]

I like the industrial stuff from Drake, minimalism fits a lot of those ships, but I dont like the combat ships with their wings

[azure fulcrum]

Notice how theres 2 fans on the middle panel with 2 tubes on the side

[lone bloom]

almost all combat ships have wings tho

[raven jetty]

Imagine the part that we see down there - the front is the outter rim, the part with tubes and the elevated centerpiece is the main map display that you see in front of many pilot chairs.

[azure fulcrum]

Does not look like a pilot console at all

[raven jetty]

The beam of the bridge canopy is there to throw you off, for sure.

[lone bloom]

also - its holding two MFDs

[raven jetty]

Because look here, you see there's a drop

just past the tubes.

[solid anvil]

Yeah I just don't like the Drake ones, corsairs are huge, Cutlass has a weird thruster layout, buccaneer had those weird tail wings

[raven jetty]

That's definitely an elevated desk imo.

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah the strut just makes it impossible to be so low for the pilot console

Doesnt make any sense since the side seats have poolaris glass panels

[solid anvil]

Imagine if the cutty black had the thruster in the center, and the wings in the back lol, like the falcon from halo

[raven jetty]

It would be - but there's the option of fold-up MFD's.

[azure fulcrum]

Lol

[raven jetty]

Think of the Andro, it has drop down MFDs. These are just pop up instead. That's my cope.

[lone bloom]

also those two things likely hold up MFDS

[azure fulcrum]

Its just very very unlikely the middle seat is the pilot seat

[raven jetty]

It matches the concept, still a center pilot seat.

It just scoots forward.

[lone bloom]

Either way, would still have preferred if they would have sticked to the concept

lol

like with the actual desks and all (including for the remote gunners)

[azure fulcrum]

This is outragous

Its unfair

[raven jetty]

Yeah, the desks were solid.

[azure fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/tantrum-temper-crybaby-gif-15487185

[round zodiac]

Perseus owners when not shown at citcon

[raven jetty]

Just wait, it's gonna hit PTU Soon™.

[lone bloom]

it was shown

randomly at a mousepad

[round zodiac]

i know, its my pfp

[lone bloom]

you changed it recently

prior it was the ISC one

[raven jetty]

I can't wait to visit the Mousepad POI in game.

[azure fulcrum]

It also matches the poolaris setup as we know its copy pasta poolarie kit

[lone bloom]

so - how many percy will it take to close the hole in Levski

Just a wall of percies

[raven jetty]

I mean you can keep saying that if you like, but we still don't have the finished product. I'll hold my reservations until then, lol

[lone bloom]

even if it turns out to be that one, we just have to cry loud enough in spectrum xD

And they will change it

[azure fulcrum]

I dont like it but its true

https://tenor.com/view/pain-suffering-death-star-wars-gif-25111888

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/grogu-sad-upset-the-mandalorian-sad-face-gif-807193578831356660

[raven jetty]

Fair, fair.

Though I refuse to succumb to depression until I've a reason to. There are two up-gunned turrets, PDCs, and hopefully soon to be remote-bladed turrets strapped to an incredible chunk of metal hurtling through space relatively soon.

Unless the interior is covered in Star Kitten it's going to be hard to make me doomsay the ship - that said the game's unplayable state currently? Painful.

[lone bloom]

Wait

does that imply

that starkitten is bad?

[raven jetty]

[lone bloom]

[raven jetty]

[lone bloom]

but how about

Furseus?

or

Purrseus

[raven jetty]

Unless the ship itself has cat ears.

[lone bloom]

[raven jetty]

You Itasha'd the fucking Perseus...

I'm both impressed and terrified.

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-me-puss-puss-in-boots-the-last-wish-be-afraid-of-me-im-someone-you-should-be-scared-of-gif-25144555

Better?

[raven jetty]

[lone bloom]

[raven jetty]

[lone bloom]

gonna riot btw if there is no cool paint releasing

Because the concierge paint is trash

and base paint if it stays grey will be trash too

[raven jetty]

I dig the Concierge, honestly.

[lone bloom]

I don't because it looks to me too low effort

[raven jetty]

But more options, more better.

[lone bloom]

its just a basic paint

[raven jetty]

That's fair - I just want more options in general.

[lone bloom]

I mean even Battlefield 4 had that exact paint - just for weapons

[round zodiac]

yea, im not really into orange though

[lone bloom]

Could've just changed the color with photo editing programs

[raven jetty]

I don't doubt there's gonna be something better in the future, but at the same time, I dig it for what it is and would rather just have it on hand. We'll see what we get next month.

For now, work kidnaps me again.

[lone bloom]

Purple BIS paint next year, trust

[raven jetty]

Don

Don't you bring that black magic here.

[lone bloom]

I already did

there it is

[humble anvil]

There's like 1 million small ships

And a handful of big ships

Perseus forever Percy is for life

[lone bloom]

Does that mean

you want more light fighters?

[humble anvil]

You know they can't produce a million huge ships they're monetization model doesn't allow them to

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

So what I'm saying is the perseus will have very long-lasting place in the persistent universe

[lone bloom]

Depends, could just make more paints

[azure fulcrum]

Idk look at arrastra funding its the highest ever

[lone bloom]

there are a ton of ships that don't have paints or just one paint

also they have a very low effort subscription model aswell

They get their money, the one way or another

[azure fulcrum]

But small sheep probably more efficientt space civilian milker

Low effort high profit like wolf

[round zodiac]

now i just need 10 friends who dont want to use their own ships so we can do a Perseus escorted Arrastra

[lone bloom]

dunno if that works very well tho, because most people just gonna use storecredits

and not new fresh money

[azure fulcrum]

Valid point

[round zodiac]

still ties up low money so people have to WB STF upgrades

[lone bloom]

on larger ships they likely tend to use more fresh money

[azure fulcrum]

Absolutely

[round zodiac]

funny to think that a brand new 100m ship worth $400 only ends up making money $10 by $10 as people get the WB upgrade token of the one step down XD

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah its all about cashflow

At citcon they pride themselves for not pushing broken builds this year

What do they do just a few days later? Push a broken build

[round zodiac]

then release the most broken patch since 4.0

wikelo disabled, mining not working, TTDs fried

[azure fulcrum]

Why? Because they need to sell ships patch bundle etc

Cashflow more important than making a good game

[round zodiac]

development release windows set by marketting team

[azure fulcrum]

They just lie all the time

[lone bloom]

And then the excuse comes around the corner with "its an alpha chill guys, its expected to break"

[round zodiac]

just need to wait for Star Building Block meshing V2.5

[azure fulcrum]

Its eeeearly days

[lone bloom]

"if you cant handle a alpha build come back later when beta or release"

literally played dozens of alphas and all were way more stable

[round zodiac]

they have Ashes of Creation as their stability benchmark 😄

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1427826302639013939/image.png?ex=68f8d81e&is=68f7869e&hm=c2e6c5540d0ee8e30f7e95c7928ccb76bad74240c1623d74a42d5012658f2f96&

i made thi last week 😄

[lone bloom]

they prob would

with basebuilding and crafting (coping)

Currently no other longterm reason to play other than money and ships, basebuilding and crafting pretty much are the most valuable things for the entire gameloops for all players

[round zodiac]

and the next question becomes the pre1.0 permanence of bases. will they be lost on patch like LTP items?

will it be like Archeage with people camping lots

[azure fulcrum]

I remember a time where we didnt have wikelo...

[round zodiac]

sure a rocky planet is like 8million square km

but will there be resource nodes

i remember a time we didnt have planets

I was there. 100 years ago. warping form Port Olisar to a satellite to weld it

my friend had the old cutlass

loot and scoot starter pack

[azure fulcrum]

Camural is obsessed with tessa banister he makes videos of it all the time

[round zodiac]

i dont know those words

[lone bloom]

I wonder if we will be able to build trap bases like in rust

But likely since they announced instancing of stuff, that bases will be partially prob instanced

[sand hound]

Is the bengal quad?

[sand hound]

They said bases will be replicated across all shards but only raidable on the shard the owner is on

But like everything CIG that can change when they actually introduce it

[lone bloom]

I mean thats already stupid by design theoretically

could just build your base with an alt account, never go online with it ever again but give your main account co-owner permissions

would be unraidable

Not like i would care about it, will build in castra aka where its unraidable either way

[tawny fern]

cant wait for the perseus pals neighborhood

[lone bloom]

And if you aint a part of the percy hood you will get shoot down by anti air defences immediatly

"Don't shoot if Perseus, shoot if anything but Perseus"

https://tenor.com/view/antiair-artillery-aa-gif-6003741827593006620

[raven jetty]

Leaving in your private 85x? Nope! Only Perseus.

[fallow wharf]

idk

[coarse galleon]

I don't understand people who still say it's another ship.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ocpdc4/to_be_the_perseus_or_not_to_be_that_is_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[lone bloom]

Because we don't want it to be the Bridge of the Perseus

Looks barely like the concept - and the concept was by miles better

[coarse galleon]

Unfortunately it is, we can only hope that the middle seat is the pilot's seat.

[lone bloom]

we just have to cry enough on spectrum if we don't like it and they will change it

they did with other stuff to, they will do it here

[coarse galleon]

I support that

[azure fulcrum]

we need to get saltemike to complain about perseus on spectrum that'll do the job

[midnight crypt]

Na gonna have him say he loves it

[azure fulcrum]

a lot of people are noticing that it looks nothing like the concept and are rightly outraged and we only got 2 pictures lol things are going to get heated once they reveal perseus to the public

[raven jetty]

Or - people are overreacting and it'll be fine, lol.

[azure fulcrum]

a lot of people still give it the benefit of the doubt but when they see the full reveal they'll come join the mob of pitchforks on spectrum

[azure fulcrum]

doubtful

[raven jetty]

Eh, we'll see. There's no mob of pitchforks that I'll be joining though - best of luck with it if that's the case for y'all.

[azure fulcrum]

its all the major youtubers as well that are noticing

there will be a massive outrage a storm is brewing

the situation is unfolding very quickly

just wait and see

just keep your keyboard ready we're about to go to war

[raven jetty]

Yes, yes. **Rioting **in the streets. *Massive * outrage. They promised us *S7 * Guns, no PDCs, and they've up-gunned us! Oh the humanity. My piloting chair is slightly to the left, I see more of the left side of the cannon than the right and it's not exactly as I expected, woe is me!

[azure fulcrum]

yes that's unacceptable piloting seat to the left ruins it completely

[raven jetty]

Honestly yeah, it'll be a bit of a bummer if that is the case, but right now I'm not really convinced. I just find it funny.

I don't think they've really gone back on any promises in concept other than a restructuring of that bridge so far - even if the main console's been relegated to a captain's chair, the ship itself is still going to meet the standards of what was promised and exceeding that in several areas.

You're not wrong for being frustrated at that small change, but it's not that large of a deal in the greater scheme of things.

[azure fulcrum]

we are going to have to act if we want to change perseus for the better

[tawny fern]

The picture cig took is so ambiguous im pretty sure they did it intentionally to piss people off

Its like if they took a picture of the whole ship but angled it in a way that made it seem like the turrets were removed

[azure fulcrum]

if they did such a lazy stupid thing to begin with and we barely seen anything of perseus, what else will they have fucked up? this is just scratching the surface I'm afraid

[azure fulcrum]

wait what hahahha

[tawny fern]

They framed the picture with the strut right in the middle so it wasnt a clear indication of the cockpit layout

They might have intentionally concealed some crucial information

[azure fulcrum]

I'm half trolling here for the lulz but really I am worried about what they have done with perseus

[tawny fern]

I dont think theres anything to be worried about until the ship actually releases

[azure fulcrum]

joking aside I also don't believe perseus will be a complete disappointment and useless ship, I think it will be good

[raven jetty]

Trust, I know. We're all ravenous for it at this point.

[azure fulcrum]

just not what we actually paid for is all

[raven jetty]

We want it to be what we're promised, and I think we're still getting that. But they've masterfully conceiled a large part of that, made the ship a little bulkier than expected, and yea - bummers both. But if that's all?

Fuck it, gimme my ugly ass brick and lemme go fire its cannons.

[azure fulcrum]

it makes sense for the bridge to look like polaris because it uses the same kit and its the Perseus MK II and RSI is supposed to be very modern and cutting edge. If you take the paladin it looks very old skool militaristic

[raven jetty]

Yeah, absolutely love what they've done for the Paladin. I think that ship turned out tremendously well - though I'm still sad for the Redeemer as the original gunboat. That thing got shafted.

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that bulkier part concerns me but we can't really get a good image of what it looks like by just one distorted fish eye lens sneak peak picture

its concerning because concept perseus looks streamlined and has sleek angled lines

[raven jetty]

I think a part of that is the view they gave us.

[azure fulcrum]

I don't even hate how it flies and performs even but the interior completely ruins it for me

forgive me I had a 15 hour work day my brain is fried I can't formulate a sentence lol

[raven jetty]

I believe the fore of the ship is still going to be rather streamlined, still will have that knife-edge shape, but the rear has had some more detailing added that, while a little over the top, doesn't kill the aesthetic entirely. Though exterior pipes are... certainly a design choice for a civilian-released military vessel..

[nocturne raft]

because theres inconsistencies that make it not appear to be or make sense to be the perseus even if they entirely changed the bridge

[azure fulcrum]

it has a certain iconic style looking like a shark as long as they can keep that the sharp point nose and such maybe it'll still look good

especially the nose is important yes

I just hope we get the armor plate look

notice the seams these are armor plates in the texture

this looks unfinished

[tawny fern]

[azure fulcrum]

just weird nonsensical lines don't look like armor plates at all

no seams just lines

autoloader 😭

also if they upped the weapon sizes, it would make sense to upsize the torpedoes as well

or double the amount of torps lol

[raven jetty]

I need this ship, goddamit.

[azure fulcrum]

its so sad we have to wait another month for this

[raven jetty]

Should be just a couple weeks for PTU

[azure fulcrum]

they really need to show a good picture to boost perseus pledger morale

[raven jetty]

They really do, a good picture will properly sustain us.

[humble anvil]

@azure fulcrum You dont want another more questions than answered image?

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

Should we tell this guy that most people in SC play it for the graphics and ships, and not specifically for the pew pew?

[lone bloom]

Imagine they fucked up the turret

[humble anvil]

i wonder if that one lad bought a perseus off gray market

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-we-will-never-know-head-shaking-patrick-gif-17905602

[azure fulcrum]

lol if they manage to fuck up the turret I'd be surprised how lol XD

[lone bloom]

Brother

They fucked up the bridge with a set concept

[humble anvil]

low key kinda a big deal. its like the apollo problem right, they got rid of drones because it doesn't fit the gameplay anymore... i dont think i need to explain further but;

IM OCD DOG... WHEN THAT SHIT IS ASYMETRICAL I FUCKING WANT TO DIE

I LOVE LOVEEE THE INTREPID

[lone bloom]

How would they "Not" fuck it up

[humble anvil]

BT DUDE THAT SHIT PISSES ME OFF

[azure fulcrum]

hahahah

[lone bloom]

And the Ares, and the MSR

tbf those are fine

[azure fulcrum]

doesn't this trigger your OCD? It fucking drives me nuts

[humble anvil]

offset cockpit, its so dumb i hate it... then right; you got this beautiful arrowhead ship, i mean through and through it is a beautiful ship. The bridge gets widened; okay right; i'll eat it. but then the fucking PILOT SEAT might ((MIGHTTT)) not be in the middle of the bridge

oh brother oh man, imma crash out

[azure fulcrum]

fucking horrible

[lone bloom]

you mean the lines?

[azure fulcrum]

yes

[lone bloom]

Which are clearly offset

[azure fulcrum]

YES

[humble anvil]

cant unsee this now

fuck u

why'd you show me this

[lone bloom]

hold up, isn't that the area where the vents on the wings are?

[humble anvil]

you mother fucker

[azure fulcrum]

our beautiful symetric sleek angled ship what have they fucking done to it

[humble anvil]

ohhhhhh

[lone bloom]

so it makes sense they are somewhat offset because the armor is "deeper" height wise

[azure fulcrum]

jesus H christ

[lone bloom]

because there are vents inbetween

aka they may be offset in that angle

[humble anvil]

they need to go back okay, scrub those textures immediately

[lone bloom]

but not if you look from the top

[humble anvil]

and make it full play dough if they want to do dumb stuff like that

might as well make it look like the meteor, metallic and a sports car

[lone bloom]

you forgot it was never symetrical...

looks at the docking collar

[humble anvil]

THE DOCKING COLLAR

[humble anvil]

OMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[azure fulcrum]

ugly modernist abstract painting thats what it reminds me of

designed to destroy your soul

[lone bloom]

"modernist abstract painting" would be by now people just splattering random colors on a white sheet and sell it for 2 Million

In comparison, that there, is art

[azure fulcrum]

they just squeeze a turd on a canvas and call it a day just a laundering scheme lol

[azure fulcrum]

you're right lmao things have changed a lot

[lone bloom]

(also if i remember correctly that 'artwork' there utilized the "golden design rule" i guess thats why its "art")

[azure fulcrum]

it reminds me of a rubricks cube tbh but all fucked up

[lone bloom]

But may missremember since it was part of my training and thats also already a few years ago lmao

Also, do you guys think they may have added another docking collar then since it was also a Q&A question?

[azure fulcrum]

modern art was used as a torture technique in the spanish civil war tho

[lone bloom]

since it has two on the exterior but only one interior

aka one working one, the other is just ... walled off

[lone bloom]

ngl looks more like it is modern architectur, bed with an angle so you either can't sleep or lay down for long, or its kinda painfull, and also the stones on the ground so you have to watch out everytime where you step or you hurt your feets

[azure fulcrum]

IDK the docking collars might have totally changed places

[lone bloom]

Don't

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-tmnt-2007-don't-do-this-raph-i'm-done-taking-orders-leonardo-vs-raph-gif-5637817172637434790

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its kinda ressembles the pain waiting for perseus and getting these shitty sneakpeeks

[azure fulcrum]

I feel like I'm inside of this room right now

[lone bloom]

It was a fucking unboardable ship

now look what they did to it with the airlock

it would make it even worse if the docking collar moved places

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

but ngl they couldn't move it

i mean its literally set into the side there with the weird looking bumpers

unless they removed that too

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

[lone bloom]

I mean its not visible on the sneakpeak

especially since its not metrics conform

so they have to change it

oh no

[azure fulcrum]

what else will they fuck up lmao

[lone bloom]

all airlocks/dockingcollars are round

Percy has a ⬛

unless its a door that opens up and reveals the round connector

like on the Poolaris

[azure fulcrum]

yes... and they only do copy pasta cus lazy

[lone bloom]

And it does not even really work with the Docking

The armored extra door glitches through the station dockingcollar

because it was never made in mind that some ships may have another door infront of the actual collar

and that its by stock closed

But i also still wonder if it will get a L hangar even on stations, aka like carrack, or has to dock like HH and poolaris

[azure fulcrum]

if they upsize it... insanely enough a lot of people are rooting for this

[humble anvil]

They could get rid of the docking collar

[lone bloom]

I mean i dont mind docking, but im worried about cargo Transfer etc

I mean kinda less worried since exterior freight elevators will come soon likely, but i bet that they will be easily exploiteable

(Aka someone just stealing your stuff by sending the elevator back down)

[humble anvil]

Dudes fly by with a tractor beam

Yoink your shit

[lone bloom]

Or that

[humble anvil]

See a crew chilling, ship off watching in third person

[lone bloom]

Or they have to make it a restricted area where you get teleportet out of if you enter without permission

[humble anvil]

Someone comes in, ayah scoop it

[lone bloom]

Prob also what they gonna do

[humble anvil]

Cargo services

Different comms, probably reserve a spot

In Perseus we pray

Personally and I mean this, I really hope they don't force dock us with the Perseus

It's small enough to fit in a large hangar, hammerhead too but it forces dock

You get it from hangar but have to dock

[lone bloom]

And then there is the carrack

That is too width to leave the Hangar if someone is sitting in the turrets

And doesnt have to dock

[humble anvil]

Have to get impounded

To get a hangar

[azure fulcrum]

yeah really could do without the docking collar

[humble anvil]

If it gets a docking collar we might be fucked. Hopefully CIG doesn't force it

I'll have to live out of grimhex