Perseus Pals

[steel sparrow]

Nah

That was lame

[vapid karma]

How can they do this

[quaint scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/dontdox-side-eye-cat-gif-4351385093417088605

Croberts

How dare you

[steel sparrow]

Not even next 12 month ships……

[vapid karma]

Scorberts more
Like

[azure fulcrum]

its over

[vapid karma]

Scammer roberts

[timid wind]

yeah so? everyone knows it was never coming with citcon

paladin is already on the ptu

[steel sparrow]

It’s so over XoX

[minor field]

See you in november boys

[humble anvil]

just because its coming IAE doesnt mean they couldnt have atleast mentioned the bloody thing

fucking hell

[lone bloom]

I meant your "no future ship" thing, they said they won't announce anymore concept ships or anything like that

[versed gazelle]

im not crying your crying about the Perseus

[raven jetty]

Ah well, we wait til next month. It's not like we've spent years anyway. One more month isn't gonna kill.

For now, we lube the remote and wait.

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[crystal sleet]

woke up at 4am for this shit

[timid wind]

yeah but all the ships they talked about are already flyable on the PTU, so no ships that arent flyable as of today were talked about

[steel sparrow]

3 am for me XOX

[lone bloom]

they are not flyable on PTU

[humble anvil]

i got a bit of chronic depression

[lone bloom]

they will be flyable on ptu next week*

and perseus is flight ready

they just choosed not to

[steel sparrow]

We have the update live next week no?

[timid wind]

there are literal pictures from the ptu people are sending right now during the broadcast

[lone bloom]

they said in broadcast it will go ptu next week tho

So they lying again

[fallow wharf]

isnt that illegal if its pledged

if its ready ready to not give out to customers

[timid wind]

sent to the main chat like 6 minutes ago

[lone bloom]

lmao

[humble anvil]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[lone bloom]

Well its behind closed doors so

[humble anvil]

how tf wasnt that shit leaked

its the same fucking build

im so confused

did they push a build n not say anything

ooo

stats are up

[timid wind]

percy is iae still

[timid wind]

trust me bro

[azure fulcrum]

I guess for once the patch didn't get datamined

[timid wind]

im actually happy its not out yet

[azure fulcrum]

lol that DPS is so disappointing

[timid wind]

stinger looks sick tho

might want one of those

[azure fulcrum]

yeah it does

[timid wind]

alien tax tho

its so expensive

[azure fulcrum]

not really

[humble anvil]

Stinger : 1x S5 , 4x S4, 2x S2

[azure fulcrum]

its cheaper than a freaking glaive

[azure fulcrum]

I rlly thought it were 5xs5 damn'

[humble anvil]

they paired the fucking

[agile kayak]

corsair + vanduul = big bucks for cig, down with the perseus, bring on the sq42 asset flips!!

[humble anvil]

plasma cannon with weird ammo speed AGAIN

so pips are not 1

[lone bloom]

well apparantly he was in fact, right

[azure fulcrum]

wtf those aren't even vanduul weapons

lightning strike are dogshit

[humble anvil]

yes

[azure fulcrum]

wow

[humble anvil]

its so fucking shit

[azure fulcrum]

jesus

[humble anvil]

because wrath is 1228 speed

1288

[lone bloom]

And whats the bespoke gun?

[azure fulcrum]

no wonder the DPS is so low

[humble anvil]

and nothing else in the game matches that speed

[azure fulcrum]

and there's literally NO way you can buy vanduul weapons ingame stores

its completely fucked

[lone bloom]

not yet - likely at some point in some grey market thing but rn ? absolutely not

[eternal urchin]

Citizencon summary = Rocks > Perseus

I hate them all

[lone bloom]

(Ground Vehicle people still in shambles)

[crystal sleet]

fuckin mouse pad...

[agile kayak]

HEY! they made a MOUSE PAD!!

[lone bloom]

The mouse pad is the only thing where there was a single thing about the perseus

[azure fulcrum]

they really need to stop with these 1 hour presentation about rocks dirt and blades of grass

[agile kayak]

ungrateful swine

[azure fulcrum]

its getting very old

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-6094188626957948188

[eternal urchin]

Ur right im sorry

[eternal urchin]

They have nothing to show so they are just spending time

It was a huge waste of time

[azure fulcrum]

the capacitors on this thing suck ass wow

[eternal urchin]

if there is no perseus there is nothing for me

[azure fulcrum]

such a beautiful ship but the stats are so bad

[humble anvil]

hey good news tho

the Paladin's stats arent bad

[azure fulcrum]

I was hoping the stinger was gonna keep me satisfied but no

[lone bloom]

yet

[azure fulcrum]

maybe I should get a paladin instead of asgard just because it can carry cargo too lol

[humble anvil]

wait

[azure fulcrum]

it seems like a better daily driver

[humble anvil]

paladin is a single S3 shield

waittt

huuuh

[azure fulcrum]

are you shitting me?

dude thats craaaazy

[humble anvil]

oh geuss it was always S3

unless they just updated it

[azure fulcrum]

that trumps the asgard 4xs2

so much for redundancy with new ships

[sand hound]

it was always 1 s3

[eternal urchin]

yeah paladin is op

[coarse cloud]

@humble anvil I

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1o416dr/ill_do_it/

[eternal urchin]

Im changing my asgard to paladin rn

[humble anvil]

oh yeeee it was always S3

i didnt see that

WOW

paladin is awesome

[lone bloom]

well at least it got now cargo ig

[azure fulcrum]

FML

[raven jetty]

Paladin looks absolutely solid, honestly.

[agile kayak]

insane paladin weapon pips

[humble anvil]

it does

the paladin is solid as fuck

[azure fulcrum]

Ok I'll forget about stinger and just get a paladin

[foggy silo]

i m sad they dont show the Perseus but the show was good !

Nyx and all that sht

[azure fulcrum]

upgrade my cat to paladin 🤷‍♂️

[humble anvil]

PITCH/YAW/ROLL 23 / 19 / 45 deg/s
BOOSTED 28 / 23 / 54 deg/s

PITCH/YAW/ROLL 25 / 21 / 45 deg/s
BOOSTED 30 / 25 / 54 deg/s

it flies worse than a connie

what the fuck

[raven jetty]

honestly, the p/y/r on it isn't terrible either. It's a fairly maneuvrable brick that's strapped with turrets.

[azure fulcrum]

ehhh or maybe not

[lone bloom]

Well, no perseus nor anything else good at citizenscon, back to battlefield 6 I go

[raven jetty]

You got the turrets though - sure you might not face forward but the crew will get on 'em quick.

[agile kayak]

perfect chain ship

[azure fulcrum]

at least connie got pilot controled 4xs5

[foggy silo]

more armored i guess

[quaint scaffold]

Post video evidence @humble anvil

[agile kayak]

the consequence having a turret with 4s5 and 600 shots

[humble anvil]

The connie has 180k HP

[humble anvil]

the only thing paladin got over the connie is if you have a 2nd dude, its fun

[coarse cloud]

This.

The watch party I ran was disappointed so we need u to spice things up rustle

[coarse cloud]

@humble anvil

[agile kayak]

that thing is DENSE

[azure fulcrum]

SPviewer is late to the party again

sigh

look at those speeds lol

really now? and asgard only gets 1.8SCU

4xs2 shield vs 1xs3

quadrant is much better than a bubble

[agile kayak]

better thrust acceleration tho, flys less like a boat

[azure fulcrum]

IDK man a corsair is faster in all fronts

[shadow oasis]

just wait, Paladin will get nerfed to the ground in a few months, stats are insane. Full PIPS on all parts and even 1 to spare

[azure fulcrum]

IDK about paladin it seems very situational

too slow to be a daily driver

[humble anvil]

No thats not true

its just slightly slower than a connie

[lone bloom]

which is fair i guess

its harder to hit still

and can hit harder back than a connie

[azure fulcrum]

wait so stinger has 5x s4 1x s5 and 2xs2?

[agile kayak]

I mean, you basically get a connie on a 360 top down turret, that gets all the buffs turrets inevitably get to make them crazy

[lone bloom]

its basically a better vanguard

[agile kayak]

yeah best take is its a 4 person complement to the vanguards 2

[lone bloom]

Stinger - not paladin

[humble anvil]

Esperia Stinger is all pilot guns

[agile kayak]

in terms of "flying firepower" its the Ares -> Vanguard -> Paladin, with the redeemer being a sidegrade

[azure fulcrum]

this is the only thing that even comes close to matching the wrath

[lone bloom]

well now its ares -> vanguard -> Vanduul stinger -> Paladin -> Perseus

could skip the vanguard even

[agile kayak]

real

vanguards are meant to be jacks of all nothing, masters of irrelevance

they exist to be in every combat trailer because their visually striking

[lone bloom]

they were at the citizonscon now too

[steel sparrow]

Paladin is just a weird looking beer opener

[agile kayak]

hence why they show'd up in every combat shot in citicon

[agile kayak]

"take a shot every time a vanguard appears on screen"

[lone bloom]

Dying of alc overdose

[azure fulcrum]

stinger has less strafe pitch yaw but more boost

[lone bloom]

Take a shot everytime the perseus got named

[azure fulcrum]

god this is so shit

[humble anvil]

tf

wtf

Stinger is actually shit

[azure fulcrum]

let that sink in for a moment

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

[humble anvil]

flying worse than an Ares?

[azure fulcrum]

much worse

[lone bloom]

I reconsider about upgrading to it

[humble anvil]

Dude i understand its supposed to be slow but there's nothing tanky about 36k HP

the perseus gonna go 'ahh yes' > dead

[azure fulcrum]

mind you the S5 is completely useless because of the low velocity

[agile kayak]

nah, ares needs to fly better or it cant get the gun on target, devs allergic to fixed assist on anything but s10 lasers on the money yacht

[lone bloom]

and @humble anvil already melted your citizens goodie pack? xD

1/10 pack

[humble anvil]

its pretty mid but i like the LMG

[lone bloom]

even the sub store flair stuff looked better

[humble anvil]

it has alot of value in comparison to

[azure fulcrum]

the only thing that kinda matches the wrath velocity is the behring laser cannons

it not having vanduul weapons stock is a dealbreaker for me tbh

fuck that shit

[steel sparrow]

It’s just a heavier guardian MX

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

Oh yeah about instancing btw... bet with you guys

[azure fulcrum]

and more slower

[lone bloom]

basebuilds will be instanced

[steel sparrow]

Def

[azure fulcrum]

so it'll be like final fantasy XIV?

[lone bloom]

do you know once human?

maybe like that

[azure fulcrum]

lol

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

STINGER :

DIMENSIONS 32 x 36 x 11 m

Guardian MX :

DIMENSIONS 17 x 26 x 10 m

[steel sparrow]

Huh

[humble anvil]

So its significantly smaller

the guardian mx

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its completely fucked

stinger is a no go

[humble anvil]

the MX flies significantly better

[steel sparrow]

1 medium shield only too……

[lone bloom]

so.... Guardian MX > Vanduul Stinger?

[steel sparrow]

PVP wise prob

[lone bloom]

how much is the MX?

[azure fulcrum]

if you ever tried MX and thought it was slow and sucks stinger is gonna be 10x worse

[steel sparrow]

Thank god I do only PVE :>

[azure fulcrum]

290

[long gyro]

Are we talking about what just happened

[lone bloom]

oh so can't ccu to it

[humble anvil]

The MX is 2.3x tanky

[azure fulcrum]

its fucking horrible please put us out of our misery

[lone bloom]

never flown a MX xD

[azure fulcrum]

a clean shot right inbetween the eyes make it humane

[steel sparrow]

U also go the breakable shields( wings)

[azure fulcrum]

it's horrible

[long gyro]

I think we should just not talk about what just happened

[azure fulcrum]

yeah and I will crawl back into the bottle again

[long gyro]

That shit was abysmal

NOT EVEN ONE MENTION

[lone bloom]

ald rustle going to crawl to the remote

[lone bloom]

There was - "one"

[steel sparrow]

The last part is pretty nice tho

[azure fulcrum]

I could have never imagined it being that bad they didn't show us anything new even the instances were just the same shit onyx 2.0

we got an hour long presentation about rocks, soil and blades of grass

[steel sparrow]

They are trying to make fleet battles

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that was the only good part I guess

[long gyro]

Literally

[long gyro]

Star Wars rip off lol

[azure fulcrum]

battlefront 2 lol

[long gyro]

George Lucas called he wants his ideas back

[lone bloom]

Battlefront 2 - Attack on Fondor Station literally

[steel sparrow]

They need the Percy on it so ppl actually buy it XD

[lone bloom]

Destroy ships - destroy relays for trench run - destroy shield generator

literally the same pattern

[azure fulcrum]

ok so I don't even have any new ship to cope with this shitshow Stinger is a no go

ain't touching that one with a 10ft pole

[steel sparrow]

Meat is meat I guess

[azure fulcrum]

paladin is slow asf

IDK man

[steel sparrow]

Now imagine how Perseus would handle

[long gyro]

Was going to upgrade Apollo to paladin

Not so convinced now

Just another step in the chain

[steel sparrow]

S3 shields, worth it XD

[lone bloom]

Also I bet with you guys, people will do the strike mission thing solo or duo with a paladin or something

aslong it fits through the trench

and it will fucking work likely

[steel sparrow]

Will Percy get shoot by the piss laser?

[azure fulcrum]

well paladin is 175 scm hammerhead is 160 scm so perseus is going to be very close to hammerhead speed

[long gyro]

Probs I think

[azure fulcrum]

it's not that much worse tbh

[lone bloom]

well they said it shoots capitals - percy isn't a cap

so its a "mayhaps"

[azure fulcrum]

perseus gonna have a heck of a lot more firepower than paladin to make up for its speed

[fluid plume]

No Perseus news, it’s over gg

[steel sparrow]

They also said PDC will only be on Military Cap but persy gets it

[lone bloom]

also that thing kinda confirms for me Perseus will release together with Nyx

[long gyro]

But I guess we finally have answers on Perseus release though

[lone bloom]

But thats a month away...

[long gyro]

IAE

[steel sparrow]

Next month…….

[azure fulcrum]

we really have nothing else but a temu mousepad to speculate on for the next month

[lone bloom]

same braincell lmao

[azure fulcrum]

fml

[lone bloom]

you know how that looks like? like those companys that sell mousepads where they print your own picture on them

[long gyro]

That guy with the short hair at the end actually has so many people hating him right now

People just wanted to hear what the “big thing” was

And he yapped for 15 mins

[azure fulcrum]

you can just order these custom on temu show them the screenshot

[lone bloom]

which one Croberts? John Crewe?

Both? xD

[long gyro]

30 minutes from end to 15 minutes from end (ish)

[lone bloom]

Probably for cheaper money too

[long gyro]

The guy who yapped with jared

[steel sparrow]

Someone go feed some generative AI Perseus info so it can create AI slops of it

[long gyro]

For she’s

*ages

The people in my vc were shouting shut up lol

[lone bloom]

?

[long gyro]

Him

[azure fulcrum]

hahahhaha

[steel sparrow]

The yap was really a bit of a let down >:/

[fallow wharf]

he had a remote in his ass as well

[lone bloom]

perfect screenshot by the way again

[steel sparrow]

Lord help us all’

[azure fulcrum]

there wasn't one good thing that came out of this

[steel sparrow]

There IS one

[azure fulcrum]

I love how he said "combined arms" is a thing in star citizen

[steel sparrow]

Fleet battles at home :/

[azure fulcrum]

let me combine arms and use my nova tank and dropship said literally no one

the fleetbattle thing was totally faked cinematic

[steel sparrow]

Still :/ we need SOMETHING to cope with

[humble anvil]

Step into the Bridge of the RSI Perseus, a Heavy Gunboat reimagined for the modern battlefield. The Perseus has been re-engineered from the keel up, growing to a commanding 110 meters and packing an unprecedented arsenal. It's a ship built not just to fight, but to dominate.

The Perseus is a juggernaut of destruction, featuring two main manned Turrets, each housing a fearsome pair of Dual-barrel Size 8 Bespoke Medusa Ballistic Cannons. These Bespoke weapons deliver a punishing, relentless barrage. When the situation demands a change of pace, an alternative fire mode swaps the main guns for Dual Size 3 Mantis Ballistic Gatlings, perfect for tearing apart smaller, faster threats.

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I'm trying real hard to cope

[steel sparrow]

3 S3 shields

[humble anvil]

But the Perseus' defenses don't stop there. Two Remote Turrets are pre-installed with AI Blades, transforming them into Personal Defense Turrets (PDT) that automatically engage hostiles. Each Remote Turret is armed with Dual Size 3 Mantis Ballistic Gatlings, ensuring no enemy fighter goes unnoticed. For even more comprehensive coverage, Four New Size 1 (Redacted) Ballistic Gatling Personal Defense Cannons (PDC) have been added, creating a lethal web of protection.

[azure fulcrum]

maybe the paladin can be fun but I doubt

[lone bloom]

the cope beginns again

[humble anvil]

To withstand the fiercest engagements, the Perseus is now equipped with Four Bespoke Size 3 Shields, a new pinnacle of protective technology also shared with the legendary Aegis Hammerhead. To power this formidable defensive array, the Perseus boasts an additional Size 3 Cooler and Powerplant, ensuring its systems run at peak performance under the heaviest strain.

With an expanded cargo grid now capable of holding 80 SCU, the Perseus can carry more supplies, ammunition, or valuable cargo, making it a truly versatile warship. The RSI Perseus isn't just a ship; it's a declaration of force.

Secure your fortress among the stars. The RSI Perseus awaits.

[azure fulcrum]

it's very similar speed to a fricking hammerhead

actually it has slower boost than a hammerhead

[lone bloom]

Okay guys can we all agree- we will blast the shiv, stinger, and paladin out of the sky once perseus releases?

Just because they stole the show?

Oh and mauler

[steel sparrow]

They should balance the HH by giving it 8 Shield Faces, only condensed heavy fire can bring it down, but it regents very fast.

[steel thistle]

tf is a mauler

[steel sparrow]

Scrap

[steel thistle]

what that

[steel sparrow]

(We are cooked)

[lone bloom]

Vanduul capital

[azure fulcrum]

all vanduul ships are garbage

[steel thistle]

oh

[azure fulcrum]

all xeno scum must die

[steel thistle]

we getting vanduul caps now 😭💔

[steel sparrow]

For the emperor?

[steel thistle]

games so gone

[azure fulcrum]

yes for the emperor

[steel thistle]

scrap the project ts outta hand

the shiv too

[steel sparrow]

I mean as enemy ehhh

[steel thistle]

they just releasing things atp

[lone bloom]

just not the perseus

[steel sparrow]

I’d like to think shiv as an after market stuff

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-outrageous-gif-18393476362145033923

what guns has the shiv?

[azure fulcrum]

the few things that are new which they showed are not coming anytime soon like the fleet battlefront 2 ripoff

[lone bloom]

is it even any good?

[steel sparrow]

Maybe we get the S8 beam form em too

[steel thistle]

a quad s4 turret and 2x size 4 for pilot

[humble anvil]

Gentlemen

[lone bloom]

lmao

so not good

[humble anvil]

We'll get drip fed Perseus shit as we get closer to IAE

not all is lost.. just a little more patience :/ unfortunately

[steel thistle]

i haven’t even watched it tbf it’s the same every year with a couple new things we won’t see

[azure fulcrum]

I don't think we're getting anything before IAE

[humble anvil]

atleast now CIG cant drip feed paladin, stinger, and GMS over our heads untill IAE

straight up just gave it out

[steel sparrow]

We must stand strong

[steel thistle]

idk quad size 4 turret is pretty good

[steel thistle]

it’s just another thing to sell at 130 dollars lol

it’s the most half assed pointless edition i’ve ever seen

[azure fulcrum]

2xs4 for pilot is pretty shit

[humble anvil]

i think i picked the shiv

yeah i did

[steel thistle]

yes

[humble anvil]

the shiv ccu to C1

[azure fulcrum]

its good for a CCU chain

15$

[lone bloom]

didn't you said a month ago you would like to pick up paladin just to test it btw?

[humble anvil]

what im trying to do

but the ptu wont give it to me

[lone bloom]

would like to test it too - but not on PTU

[steel sparrow]

Mad max cage armor XD

It’s Jo-Over

[humble anvil]

So Hermes is joeover too

[steel sparrow]

It’s just stupid I think

I think they hinted the popular edition is the Wolf

Devs liked it a lot

Almost non of em liked the Apollo

[azure fulcrum]

pally is insanely tanky and has great capacitors and firepower

but its just not something I would take out solo

well done ship tho

can't wait to see the interior

[azure fulcrum]

lol it has no spread

[humble anvil]

unfortunately no fucking backpack

once again CIG

[lone bloom]

will post vid of pally interior?

[azure fulcrum]

I'm gonna install PTU rn if you need a gunner to test pally I'm all game xD

[steel sparrow]

The stinger’s engine sounds are sick

[steel sparrow]

Tickles my ear

[azure fulcrum]

is it in ptu?

[lone bloom]

at least we know percy will have peak engine sound

[steel sparrow]

Yeah

It has a heart beat

[humble anvil]

wtf is with this shit not updating

amd videos zzz

[azure fulcrum]

hmmm I really like the interior but I see no manual loading mechanism for ammo

seems they memoryholed that idea

[fallow wharf]

perseus in smol we got

[azure fulcrum]

stinger isn't ingame yet or its bugged maybe

[steel sparrow]

A dude on YouTube has it and is testing it

[azure fulcrum]

no way

[steel sparrow]

It sounds alive

[azure fulcrum]

link me plz

😭

[steel sparrow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ymjqVTiJb5I

[azure fulcrum]

ah yeah

[steel sparrow]

He tested pally first than stinker

[azure fulcrum]

its become very apparent to me the vanduul ships are just SQ42 assets set dressing not really a viable ship for a player

theres a fuse box and a weapon rack, no storage

really shitty

[humble anvil]

Vanduul ship rushed for free money

[azure fulcrum]

its a cool animation just a little disappointing you can't fire the turret while its moving lol

[humble anvil]

listen to this quantum

its a great ship and if you have a buddy awesome

really really great but damn shame it is

its not the tankiest for what it does

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I'd be down to crew turret xD

[humble anvil]

oh dude

quad S5 on turret is massive

honestly

hear me out

[azure fulcrum]

it isn't? I thought the HP and shield were very tanky on paper?

[humble anvil]

ah ye you're right

the shield pool is insane for the form factor

[azure fulcrum]

you wanna try one foxwell red mission? I'm almost done downloading

[lone bloom]

tbf sure its a cool nice to have, is it usefull tho? not really unless youre attacking ground targets

(i mean that you can move to top or bottom)

[humble anvil]

yeah, i want to put ballistics on the S4

and give the capacitor to the turret

sec

[azure fulcrum]

hmm

the revenants probably then

[humble anvil]

yerp

ig wiiiiiw

oh wow new ballistics

so there's a breakneck S4 i geuss thats theheeee shiv

[azure fulcrum]

I'm watching someone fly the stinger and it really sucks at dogfighting as expected...

[humble anvil]

oh it is

[azure fulcrum]

ohhh exciting

shiv doesn't look bad tbh its pretty agile too but made of paper xD

[humble anvil]

1450 m/s on these gatlings

and twice the ammo than revenant

[azure fulcrum]

,woa

[azure fulcrum]

what the hell

[humble anvil]

dps is a little less

[azure fulcrum]

velocity more important tbh

hmm the gattlings are the pilot controlled ones

[azure fulcrum]

WTF DUDE the turret is slaved to pilot?!??!? on the shiv that's so sick

duuuuude

look how much faster shiv is than cutty

thats a lot of firepower 4xs3 and 2xs4 with that speed and agility

[timid wind]

i wonder when were gonna hear anyhing about the percy

its not a ship they would release just out of the blue without saying anything

[azure fulcrum]

scufflas lol

[lone bloom]

I hope they drop something huge besides nyx and perseus at IAE otherwise this year kinda cooked

[azure fulcrum]

https://www.spviewer.eu/compare?ship=ANVL_Paladin&ship=DRAK_Corsair&ship=RSI_Constellation_Andromeda

[desert gorge]

even with no Perseus im happy with the vanduul plush

Alien 2.0

[humble anvil]

@azure fulcrumimm go back to my normal things like

selling armor to crackheads

[azure fulcrum]

yeah lol I get it

[azure fulcrum]

its too much of a pain I need to add you in PTU again before I can join on you anyways

wish I could just try out the new ships on PTU but everything is paywalled...

[quiet slate]

where Perseus 🙁

[azure fulcrum]

useless ship lol

she aint fittin

[agile kayak]

whats the binding to do that in turret view?

[quiet slate]

pitty it lost the turret

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but it not even having vanduul weapons is the most frustrating part

no wonder its so cheap

except for the 1x s5 wrath it has of course

[quiet slate]

yeah I thought I'm losing my Glaive today

[azure fulcrum]

glaive seems way more useful but I ain't touching that until we get the rework

esperia stinger really is a stripped downgraded version of the vanduul version

[quiet slate]

Well with the omnisky loadout the the Stinger does more damage than the Glaive

[azure fulcrum]

and honestly seeing it ingame it doesn't even look that good

[quiet slate]

but sadly no vanduul cannons except for that 1

[azure fulcrum]

I suppose I think the behring m6as are better match than the omniskies tho

closer to match velocity with the wrath

and higher dps

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I really hadn't expected this to happen

they should've just made it true to the original and asked 500$ for it

people would still buy it

[quiet slate]

M6's faster or slower?

the wrath used to be 900 m/s but got buffed somewhere along the line

[azure fulcrum]

faster dang I think you're right the omniskies are closer to wrath in velocity

[quiet slate]

wait m6's now faster than omni?

[azure fulcrum]

slower

900 m/s ?

could've sworn it was differnt

[quiet slate]

oh yeah omni then

yeah back before the NDB's became meta the wrath were 900m/s and now their around 1200

[azure fulcrum]

these are great

[quiet slate]

yeah the light strikes are sadly not strong as they were

breakneck.... that on the Shiv?

[azure fulcrum]

yeah the new gattlings

[quiet slate]

are they bespoke? or are they available in the shops

[azure fulcrum]

they are swappable so I assume they'll be in shops

I hope lol

nvm they're not in shops... yet

[quiet slate]

Well guess it's Shiv hunting time when it comes live

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

really good dmg, ammo and velocity

[quiet slate]

Will have to use revnants on my Stinger till I get those lol

[azure fulcrum]

well revenants got more DPS but 1500 less ammo and 250 less velocity

[fallow wharf]

how much is it

[azure fulcrum]

this guy is having fun in palladin killing carracks and such lol

connie seems like no match for pally

paladin is a really solid ship ngl its turret can converge with pilot weapons no problem

if you get in front of it with a fighter you're screwed

jeez that asgard got shredded in seconds

not good 😅

lmao it shred the redeemer too

paladin is beast

[humble anvil]

i see where the Perseus's Silver went

[lone bloom]

and the slight blue on the wings

LOOK WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US

[tawny fern]

the quad s5 turret cant be slaved by the pilot right?

its exclusively gunner controlled?

[azure fulcrum]

unfortunately no

[azure fulcrum]

only the 4xs4s can be pilot controlled on the wings

[lone tundra]

You in that? Account copy seems to be failing at this point and mine never showed up, got a question

[azure fulcrum]

I just bought a paladin 😹

[azure fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymjqVTiJb5I no i'm watching this youtuber

[lone bloom]

Thought you don't want it

[azure fulcrum]

I changed my mind it destroys everything

until perseus comes along of course

[lone tundra]

eh, good enough

[azure fulcrum]

the lower crew requirement makes it have use for me

[lone bloom]

I still don't know what I am supposed to do with my Starlancer Max now

[lone bloom]

Ngl the turret would've been neat

[azure fulcrum]

cargo running is boring anyways I'm a purely combat focused player

[lone tundra]

probably the 200 referral reward.

[lone bloom]

well i have now perseus, originally wanted sl max because of its pilot firepower - and not being ugly as the connie, but now i have plenge perseus

[azure fulcrum]

it looks a lot different now kinda sad about the turret but it not having vanduul weapons is a real dealbreaker for me

[lone bloom]

so i don't need a firepower ship

[azure fulcrum]

hence the 315$ pricetag I guess

[lone tundra]

Could've sworn they still had turrets on some of them in the most recent SQ42 demo, but now I need to go back and check

[azure fulcrum]

yeah SL max is more of a multirole of course it has more utility than pally which can only carry 8 SCU of cargo

[azure fulcrum]

it had I know 100%

[azure fulcrum]

I was obsessed with stinger for weeks lol

[lone tundra]

indeed

[azure fulcrum]

my baby 😭

[lone bloom]

yeah idc about pally - Perseus does cargo and the combat for me i need - so dunno what i do with the sl max because of that

wanted to go galaxy but dunno especially after that citizenscon if its worth it xD

[azure fulcrum]

pally is just one of those ships I'll take out for when I only have one buddy and its probably better against fighters dunno

I guess it was an impuslive buy now I think about it lol

[lone bloom]

well late game you won't play with a pally anymore tho

[azure fulcrum]

hmmm yeah

[lone bloom]

if you have one peep with you

you go do ERT against hammerheads

or the polaris one

[azure fulcrum]

exactly its a stepping stone

[lone bloom]

yeah but if you already have the better ship - why get the previous step yk xD

[agile kayak]

pally is essentially a bargain bin perseus, brought to you buy anvil aerospace

[azure fulcrum]

ehhh IDK I think you got a point it's only useful if you are missing crew for your perseus

[lone bloom]

aka one person

[agile kayak]

it exists to make the redeemer even more obsolete

[lone bloom]

If you duo go percy

Unless you both wanna pew pew

[agile kayak]

well, idk, my though process is to have a vanguard as your heavy fighter, a buddy gets on and you can duo it, anyone else, and at that point you can crew a perseus on a skeleton

[lone bloom]

and outside of that, its just a smaller starlancer max since also quad S4

[azure fulcrum]

I kinda screwed myself since I already melted my CCU chain to ironclad for my cat lol

and now I can only buyback for the standard price xD

[lone bloom]

im rn sitting on apollo medivac CCU

SL max -> Medivac

but that was because galaxy, and now im unsure xD

[lone bloom]

Also cat bad

https://tenor.com/view/the-summoning-bad-cat-hitting-broom-gif-10352523

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I had to upgrade my MX because I hated it so much lol

[lone bloom]

thinking of melting the max maybe even

and getting a E1

But would be waste of money

so i just

https://tenor.com/view/sad-alone-sad-person-alone-cradle-sitting-along-in-corner-gif-11206167521557372047

[tawny fern]

the shiv looks interesting

[lone bloom]

Shiv is pretty much a better cutty black

with bit less cargo

(and if you don't mind frankenstein look)

[tawny fern]

i havent actually looked at the stats

[azure fulcrum]

as long as the ship I own fits my style of gameplay I'm fine with it, don't wanna do any mining, salvaging or cargo running really

[tawny fern]

the shiv turrets are slaved the pilot? thats bonkers levels of dps wtf

[azure fulcrum]

that asgard is my multirole ship for whenever I need to carry cargo for a mission chain or transport items to my local inventory

[lone bloom]

got it because it was multi purpose, could do cargo, basebuilding maybe, and bounty, now, percy will fit more cargo offgrid, will be better for bounty/combat by a longshot, and can also basebuild with the rover

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its a real wtf ship its just a better cutty tbh

getting to heavy fighter territory

[tawny fern]

its like the prime candidate for a getting-nerfed-next-patch ship

[lone bloom]

so would have to move away completely from "flexible" role

[azure fulcrum]

percy will probably fit a lot less cargo and smaller vehicle than asgard but yeah

[lone bloom]

well maybe it can fit a storm, but it will absolutely fit the basebuild rover

[azure fulcrum]

it might just be sufficient

to be a multirole

[lone bloom]

and cargo is a "maybe" offgrid Perseus can perhaps 400-600 SCU

which is alot more than the SL max

[azure fulcrum]

yeah lol it might happen

[lone bloom]

sure its not intendend

but aslong it works idc

maybe have to cope for a medium salvager thats in range of 250+ ig

[azure fulcrum]

paladin is kinda sick how it has this full fledged interior with creature comforts and 4 weapon racks with 4 suit lockers with 8 scu cargo grid

seems like a useful ship

just don't like that its slow

[lone bloom]

I just see it as baby perseus

[azure fulcrum]

exactly lol

[lone bloom]

Which is obsolete - if you have a perseus

but if you don't want a perseus - pally is i guess the next go to

[azure fulcrum]

ugh probably

IDK what else to upgrade my ship to xD

[lone bloom]

i mean i guess it may be good to kill the perseus

since it will be faster and such and do the same the perseus will do to polaris idris etc

[azure fulcrum]

very much doubt that its gonna be big enough for it to get hit with the S8 turrets

since percius turrets got all angles covered

even if it gets behind it can still get hit

and it needs to get close first

[lone bloom]

Dunno

If it cannot kill perseus either

I don't see any usage for it

I mean I said it already before its release pally is surely a great ship

but its like "I like that - but I prefer that one more"

give me a second i will do a meme

[azure fulcrum]

thats probably one of the reasons we got pally first before perseus release

if not the reason lol

[azure fulcrum]

ahh ye kinda sad

[lone bloom]

So - thats better

[agile kayak]

Idk i think the perseus mav stats are too sluggish, I'm just happy we got a full tour, several appearances in fleet shots, and a citcon release, instead of a mousepad and 2 sq42 asset flips, I mean, just saying it sounds ridiculous

[lone bloom]

Not like we called it

Prob thats why they forced the paladin out now

and pushed it hard so it can skip over 2 months being behind

If Perseus releases before paladin, less people would buy the paladin

While reversed like it is rn, people buy paladin and will likely upgrade to perseus seeing how obsolete the paladin is technically if you can have perseus

[tawny fern]

perseus is gonna be the highlight of IAE, and more people pay attention to IAE than citcon

[lone bloom]

Btw

Galaxy costs exactly the same as the pally, and has the same fire power

while also offering alot of other stuff

[tawny fern]

so is the shiv just better than the cutlass black at everything or what, i cant see any disadvantages

[agile kayak]

less cargo, probably a shitbox that constantly breaks down

[lone bloom]

"constantly breaks down"

so a typical drake ship you say

[agile kayak]

btw what's everyone's favorite part of the reveal today? I liked this angle of it personally, the exhaust looks great, incoming flak ammo nerf tho, was too op atm.

[lone bloom]

Just a small teaser telling us it will come with same patch as nyx

so....

IAE

Kinda a weird patch to introduce also a new starsystem with new planetary stuff tho since every two days IAE hall will change

and on the other hand you want maybe to explore nyx

which is an entire star system away

[agile kayak]

But, its in ptu right now? They even did a whole cinematic today where they wasted backer funds licensing acdc's thunderstruck; to be fair the kingship 1v1 was cool

I cant believe they even added a snub craft, and its a wolf varient from Kruger!

good thing they tested engineering in july in time for the perseus release, like they said, the armor stats are great.

[midnight crypt]

i hope they allow armor piercing so the S10 railgun just snipes the pilot

[round zodiac]

people saying that was a Mauler, not a kingship

actually the nose kinda matches

[normal fossil]

there is no way in the world it is a king ship, they can barely run a Bengal in game at the moment

[round zodiac]

this stuff was probably in the StarEngine Animation editor, not in a universe build

aka prereendered cinematic like the Meet The Medic etc for Source in SFM

[quiet slate]

I did something dangerous... I had a thinking moment.... last year with the polaris we know a whole lot about it before it launched CIG loved covering it... Perseus is a damn secret with everything basically rumoured and or speculative... and it drops next month.

Good thinks are usually secrets when CIG is involved

[agile kayak]

the ghiest backpack jutts a little too much, the flightsuit core also jutts a bit, and a solid angle for the new lmg creates this

gotta love the exterior center of mass

[round zodiac]

now crouch

and you got a rear turret

[azure fulcrum]

you think its a good sign perseus is being held secret?

[agile kayak]

Sentry goin UP!

[azure fulcrum]

I really like that flightsuit lol

but not paying 30$ for it xDD

[quiet slate]

The Shiv is a good ship and everyone thought it's going to be that flappy bird drake ship.. Idris was like WASSUUUP I'm in the PU now... things that CIG keeps secret is usually not a bad thing

[agile kayak]

take the sentry pill brother

[azure fulcrum]

maybe its kept secret because it might be controversial because of how OP it is lol

[round zodiac]

itll be out in the Nyx of time

i realyl thought we'd see it against the vanduul in the cinematic

things have been real quiet in the Origin front too

[quiet slate]

you bois we have 5min to get out of here before that fleet of Vanduul wrecks us... the Small Perseus fleet throthing at the mouth ready to play ball

[quiet slate]

sounds like origin might get something next year with the "other ignored manufacturers" line they dropped

[round zodiac]

could be. i really hope they do the Origin635c as a callback to the original Origin600 cargo courier

it could probably be a hullB/railen competitor at ~300scu

[quiet slate]

oooh maybe

635c was that the one in lore converted to a racing variant

[round zodiac]

Astrohistorian's cargo crisis video goes into it a bit, saying Origin beat the Hull to market in a Large (for the time) cargo ship with the Origin600

and they ahvent made a #35c besides 135c

sad tah thte 315p is twice hte cargo at the same price, though

[azure fulcrum]

I hope perseus is this color

[round zodiac]

less sheen in the July monthly

but agian, pre LOD0 and final art

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I'm gonna assume it is that

weird how this paint is also more expensive somehow

The Downstream livery features subtle shades of blue and black to help the Anvil Paladin discreetly reach drop zones.

[round zodiac]

all 3 ships had a paint that cost extra

[lone tundra]

Is that Shadowfall?

[azure fulcrum]

no thats downstream, shadowfall ain't ingame yet

[lone tundra]

bah

[azure fulcrum]

shadowfall should be black

[azure fulcrum]

they had so much time to finish the paint lol

[lone tundra]

ah yeah

[azure fulcrum]

wonder what reason if any

I'm happy with downstream the slate grey is my fav

[bitter gust]

ITS NOT? hahaha

thanks for the best laugh

i joked about this to myself earlier today... f me.

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its such a joke they take your money and then are like "it's not a priority we need to make more skins first"

their greediness is unheard of

[azure fulcrum]

anyways this makes me hopeful for a slategrey perseus skin

well they call it blue and black but its literally slate grey lol

they can't even name the color right

"blue"

[humble anvil]

Guys imma keep it a buck

I'm losing interest lol

Still have to wait 6 months for something tangible

Some crafting, etc

Or I'm sorry, or is this with Nyx

[lone tundra]

You'll be able to fly your Perseus around later this month, or early next month. Don't falter now. Hold strong, like its two shields.

[steel sparrow]

And cope hard, like its third shield

[fallow wharf]

Is it because of the remote?

Stay strong

[steel sparrow]

Hold it in

It stays inside until IAE

When does that usually happen?

[tawny fern]

paladin looks pretty meh tbh

shiv looks amazing but theres no way that ship doesnt get nerfed

[somber kettle]

Rustle's screenshot even made it to my buddies who don't post in here. I didn't actually send it to them, they found it elsewhere...

Hope it is a firestick remote at least... ugh.

[crystal sleet]

imagine if the whole gimmick is that the shivs stats get randomly adjusted each or every few patches because of how inconsistent the manufacturing is

[shadow oasis]

You can just smell the incoming nerfs to Shiv and Paladin within a few months, no way this can stay like this. Those are just 2 new meta ships.

[tawny fern]

yea, it really feels like it

with how we've seen other strong ships get nerfed, its safe to say these will too

the stinger looks really freaking cool

[timid adder]

I want them to pump out at least 5 more Grey’s ships

[crystal sleet]

Greys Market Perseus, retrofitted with four singe cannons

[steel sparrow]

Sales the beam after market kit for Percy

[grave canyon]

ngl that sounds fun

[crystal sleet]

for a patch it could be as good as the avenger, the next patch the shiv suddenly cant take off

[grave canyon]

sounds like a good time to me

[crystal sleet]

almost any bug could be considered a feature too

[grave canyon]

[coarse cloud]

IAE hall in Nyx

[lone bloom]

But the iae hall is at crusader

[steel sparrow]

Do they even have cities there

[humble anvil]

Resetting PC because this thing acting sus lately

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[timid wind]

yes, iae at levski with the vanduuls crashing the party

fly the perseus right out the showroom window to fight

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marines-to-battle-brother-warhammer-40k-join-me-let's-do-this-gif-10616374235641054765

[humble anvil]

All my memes are gone

but

I start anew

tbh they should have given stinger full bespoke vanduul weaponary

like S5 Wrath, and all versions of the wrath's but down sized

weird that they have 1 weapon and go 'ah yeah thats enough'

[lone bloom]

Here you go

[lone bloom]

kinda wondering that there is no spectrum thread about no perseus at citcon

and no basebuilding

[azure fulcrum]

Weird

[lone bloom]

or they instantly take down those threads

[coarse cloud]

they are known for doing that

[lone bloom]

I know, thats why Im saying it

[sage python]

They probably want to condense the hype around perseus for IAE

i am thinking base building either in march or for ILW next year

ILW would be a good time to introduce it with the pioneer i think

[lone bloom]

i mean they said last citizenscon this year

thats why its sus

[coarse cloud]

thats quite heavy on the copium

i would say IAE 2026 -2027 ILW

[sage python]

true

[humble anvil]

e

[lone bloom]

would mean CIG was high on copium too as they said "next year" aka 2025

[coarse cloud]

fr

although

im always high on copium

[timid wind]

ill say Q3 2026 for base building

[azure fulcrum]

Or q4

[humble anvil]

the fuck

you can put railguns in backpacks now

[lone bloom]

Can we put the perseus in backpacks?

[humble anvil]

the miniature subscriber flair we're getting next month of the perseus is going to be crazy

[lone bloom]

I hope not

Ykyk

Aint gonna sub for just a plushie or something

[desert gorge]

deep down u know u will

[lone bloom]

I won't lol

The maximum i will get is a Perseus paint, and only if one of those will look good, and aint be like Poolaris paints

[coarse cloud]

I’m down to buy the naming for it if it comes out

Otherwise na

And any kits we get

I’ll buy

Would love to get blades for Perseus

But equally don’t want them restricted to cash

[midnight crypt]

im pretty sure all blades will be bought in the game since they had major back lash when they wanted you to pay with cash for flight blades for ships

[lone bloom]

won't stop them from trying tho

[azure fulcrum]

The blade outrage was so asinine here we have spaceships sold for thousand of dollars and skins the price of a full game but somehow the line is drawn at some ship equipment thats worth a few hundred auec ingame

[coarse cloud]

do u think kits will be in game purchaseable

like idris T and K

[azure fulcrum]

SaltE mike was the instigator of course

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah eventually you'll be able to buy them through rep grind because they're military or something

[lone bloom]

Well

Never forget - people are stupid

[azure fulcrum]

[lone bloom]

At least the majority

[azure fulcrum]

They're just sheep everyone just follows along with what saltemike says

His comment on the spectrum announcement for blades had 2.1k upvotes

[lone bloom]

Am I the only one that thinks salte is kinda cirnge?

no?

[humble anvil]

Salte

[lone bloom]

The salt to the mike

[azure fulcrum]

I hate saltemike because he detracts from the real issues with stupid shit like this

Hes just a CIG payrolled clown

[lone bloom]

Just watched him here and there a few times and quite instantly noticed that

thats why i stopped watching him quite quickly

[azure fulcrum]

Cointelpro shill

[lone bloom]

Also - don't need a youtuber (more like streamer) to tell me what is shit and what not lmao

I mean there were also a few ytbers already saying "uh uh perseus broke perseus will break the game"

[azure fulcrum]

Criiinge

[lone bloom]

Like - brother - we all know a perseus will get ganked by F7A/c or gladius etc

like every other larger ship

braindead or what?

The only thing the perseus will delete are the stupid "i have a cap so you lose" people

(well and will be great for PvE)

[humble anvil]

atleast we can start using evo ptu of the iae patch here in like.. 2 weeks with nyx

[lone bloom]

but i don't think percy will be in there no?

I mean they literally make it a top secret ship

That either means its peak

or they fucked up big time

[humble anvil]

Oh wait nyx isnt next patch

Its after IAE

wait

im so fucking confused

ye

yeeee

[azure fulcrum]

I think perseus would still kill 90% of players that fly fighters cause they're as bad as npc pilots

[coarse cloud]

not to mention the s3s and possible PDCs

[lone bloom]

didn't they say next month

so it is next patch

[coarse cloud]

yeah

they said in 1 month

we will have nyx

[lone bloom]

so it is IAE patch^^

[coarse cloud]

"not in 1 year, but 1 month"

were the words

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah everybody seems to forget the 360 degree turret coverage including 4 fricking pdcs

[round zodiac]

itll probably delay to alien week lmao

[lone bloom]

i mean they also said basebuilding and crafting Q4 2025

Here we are

[humble anvil]

hmmm

[round zodiac]

and solar flares were in the pyro evocati builds

its been a year

[azure fulcrum]

A heavy fighter is useless against fighters because it is too slow but gunship has turrets so it can take care of nimble fighters easily shrimple as

Not only has the gunship superior firepower but it can outtank fighters by far

Its just the reality people have to come to terms with that amount of firepower for 2 people outperforms 2 puny fighters anytime

[long gyro]

Croberts, who art on yacht, hallowed be thy name,
Thy space game come, bugs will be done, in Nyx as it is in Pyro.
Give us this day our holy Perseus, and empty our wallets, as we empty the wallets of those who have been referred through us.
And lead us not into Vanduul, but deliver to us features
For thine is the space game, the Perseus, and our wallets, for ever and ever,
Amen

[lone bloom]

but it doesn't.

thats the shit part

Fighters will be always better than any other ship until armor probably

[azure fulcrum]

Paladin does lol if it doesnt get nerfed soon

[azure fulcrum]

Ye when armor comes in fighters are screwed

But people will argue fighters will still be able to destroy components turrets etc to disable large ships

[lone bloom]

Sure, but for that they have to get close

[azure fulcrum]

Idk about that a turret and weapons are very hard to hit

I tried

[lone bloom]

and close means getting shred by pdcs

[azure fulcrum]

Ye

You have to get real close to hit turrets

100% believe perseus will get kits since a massive amount of backers own one it will be easy money

Like taking candy from a baby

[lone bloom]

also 4 pdcs for that size of ship isn't bad

Polaris is 60% larger and has only 2 more

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah its the size of 2 paladins I believe?

[lone bloom]

what size is paladin

50m?

[azure fulcrum]

Same size as asgard lol

Think so

[lone bloom]

well just 2x lol

but idk if percy is higher than paladin

[humble anvil]

Percy is higher

Idk

Fuck PvP

Gimme the ability to solo PvE

Paladin doesn't give me hope

150k with a s3 shield

Let me check something

They got rid of dimensions

Dude wtf

Ah Paladin doesn't have them

The HP to Volume ratio is approximately 5.54 HP/m
3
.

Would put the Perseus at 581,987

[lone bloom]

so just 181 more than HH

[humble anvil]

Hm

[coarse cloud]

What to do with 945 in store credit at IAE

[lone bloom]

Buying me the galaxy upgrade /j

Maybe get the medium salvager if you don't have a salvage ship

thats supposed to release

[coarse cloud]

I want the paladin so bad but I won’t have this until IAE

might die for it

been begging ppl in PTU to let me fly it

[lone bloom]

why you guys all want a paladin

[coarse cloud]

But been time limited and no luck

[coarse cloud]

Baby Perseus

[lone bloom]

but perseus comes at IAE either way

[coarse cloud]

2 man crew Perseus and its solo-able

[coarse cloud]

True but it’s not like I’m gunna win any waves for the pioneer

considering if it’s on a weekday I’ll have 1 chance to get it in a store credit wave

[humble anvil]

Paladin is really nice

IAE will have blades

[lone bloom]

I just noticed something and now i cannot unsee it

the paladin uses Terrapin engines

[nocturne raft]

happily managed to pick up the nyx (and perseus) deskmat

[nocturne raft]

not too surprising a manufacturer uses the same engines on different ships

also whats with all the paladin talk. this aint the paladin pals channel

[lone bloom]

Well, no, but why terrapin and not valkyrie lol

[nocturne raft]

maybe cos of the size? i dno.
the valk/asgard engines are pretty big

[lone bloom]

Paladin = baby Perseus

[lone bloom]

And its larger than both of them

xD

[nocturne raft]

its likely just size classes of engines. these on the back of the paladin probably wouldnt fit

[humble anvil]

Engines sound good

Sounds sound good

[nocturne raft]

ive heard nothing but good things about it tbh

[humble anvil]

Yes

[nocturne raft]

[lone bloom]

Paladin literally just a temporarily ship until Perseus drops

[lone tundra]

just get both

[humble anvil]

😋

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-coolasice-straightupfact-facts-gif-24929414

[round zodiac]

Would 3 in a paladin do better than 3 in a Perseus?

[lone bloom]

no

lol

a third person in a paladin won't change its dps or anything else

while in perseus it adds another dual S8

[round zodiac]

Gotcha, so it's a 2 job 4 seater

[lone bloom]

Basically

Originally it was 4 seater but most people cried out that the 2 2xs4 arent slaved to pilot if not manned

so it turned into a 2 seater indirectly

I mean, Perseus is also sold as "6" person ship

While its a 2-3 person ship

[round zodiac]

3 plus remote turret/repairs

[azure fulcrum]

yeah basically lol it's almost the same size by length height and width even

well the bridge part is higher yeah

[lone bloom]

and bottom turret

[azure fulcrum]

hmm yeah that makes it rather tall you're right

fuck using the wrong sihp XD

[lone bloom]

i see

technically 2 paladin are in length larger