Perseus Pals

[midnight crypt]

Yeah pretty much a bigger starlancer

[lone bloom]

with another mailslot cockpit

[lone bloom]

Interesting

Odyssey can do everything the galaxy can just somewhat "better" but also not better

No basebuild - but T2 medbay and mining and refining at the same time

[midnight crypt]

Odyssey can refine fuel. Galaxy refine ore

[lone bloom]

while Galaxy can basebuild, can have T1 medbay, and can refine, but not mine itsself

also, most importantly

dorito

oooh

it can't refine ore

i see

That kinda sucks xD

[midnight crypt]

Yeah. And last thing I seen about the odyssey which will most likely change is it can refine the fuel but can’t sell or transfer it to anyone which if they allow you to transfer fuel and sell it off the ship then the starfarer would be useless

[lone bloom]

not like i would bother with mining in a galaxy, won't touch the refining module with it very likely

Because arra arra

so its refinery is absolutely dogshit you say

[midnight crypt]

Yeah

[humble anvil]

Hmmmm Arrastra

onboard refinery go brrrr

"Yeah i print quantanium, so what?"

basically a salvage ship but for mining

[lone bloom]

Imagine all the basebuild material you could get

and crafting stuff

[midnight crypt]

I want the arrastra. I hate waiting hours at a station

[humble anvil]

tbh it quite literally is the same tech lol

for onboard refining

[lone bloom]

well but it won't let you wait 7 days likely lol

[humble anvil]

ya

[lone bloom]

more like

3 hours

maybe

[humble anvil]

3 hours?! the quant gonna blow up before then

2 minutes poop out a 16 scu box

take it or leave it

[lone bloom]

Those ships can safely hold it

so far i know

[humble anvil]

oh bet bet bet

[lone bloom]

i mean it was said that they can mine quant without risk of exploding

[humble anvil]

OwO

[lone bloom]

probably because of the refinery - prob ignores the timer if it gets refined

I mean, space stations would have go boom otherwise too

[midnight crypt]

The only thing I see make the odyssey useful is if they actually make fuel limited and you gotta go find mine and refine the fuel to sell to stations so they don’t run out

Would also make the starfarer more useful. You need to refuel but you go to a station that ran dry so you gotta request someone with a starfarer to fuel your ship

[lone bloom]

That would may cause some issues xD

Imagine few peeps with starfarers go to stations and just buy them empty

On purpose

but otherwise would probably increase the amount of money they would pay for quant reversed (the station)

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[humble anvil]

beautiful

oooo 512 scu of refined ores hold onto the external part of the ship

[lone bloom]

may i also note

that the perseus

may have a very similar bridge to the galaxy?

since the seats are in the same way placed in the concept layout of the perseus

[humble anvil]

looks about right

[lone bloom]

and have the same stuff around it

just that the captain is i think 2 stairs lower

nvm

the gunners are a step higher because they are risen from the normal floor

but still looks EXTREMELY similar

wait

nvm

its literally identically

[lone bloom]

here they are also slightly rised from the ground

[humble anvil]

fucking arrastra

3x S3 Remote Turrets
4x S3 Quad Turret

oh

the remote turrets are the mining

[midnight crypt]

XD

[humble anvil]

so it gets .. 4x Quad S3 turrets

im confused

idk

fuck it

[lone bloom]

i mean

blade it

[humble anvil]

@lone bloom so i need a Starfarer, and its MISC

surely it comes fast at IAE

surely misc doesnt have anything for IAE right

[lone bloom]

Just in case of NPC pirates for example, or unexperienced pirates will get bonked by those turrets

[humble anvil]

because we all know RSI is going last this IAE

[lone bloom]

so far ive seen starfarer always been available either way

[humble anvil]

what the hell is this

[midnight crypt]

XD

[humble anvil]

uhm what

[lone bloom]

what that

arra?

[humble anvil]

the arrastra lol

[lone bloom]

why has that thing pilot controlled...

whatever

[midnight crypt]

Arrastra secretly a gunship

[humble anvil]

Im confused lmaooooooooooooooooooo

[lone bloom]

S1 missiles

[humble anvil]

SO IT HAS 4 s4 missles, 8 size 1 missles, 2 s5 missles, and 4 size 3 missles

[lone bloom]

objectively

it has more pilot controlled firepower

than the connie

which is sad, since its just close... but yeah

[humble anvil]

3x4 Size 3

OKAY

2 computers!!!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

We blading annndddd putting a mining blade in

[lone bloom]

just blading everything lol

[humble anvil]

they're remote too lmaoooooooooo

[lone bloom]

reactor in corner be like: "please don't"

https://tenor.com/view/sad-alone-sad-person-alone-cradle-sitting-along-in-corner-gif-11206167521557372047

[humble anvil]

Could you imagine a slave blade for the Arrastra

for the mining lasers

[lone bloom]

maybe

would be funny

[humble anvil]

"mine from the pilot seat"

Since they're remote too wont need the traditional

[desert gorge]

are there any new changes for ballistics ?

[humble anvil]

slave blade, but prob just the targetting blade

[humble anvil]

when shields are down, big damage to hull

👍

[lone bloom]

if it would work*

[desert gorge]

but when shields are up i mean

bc it was 45%

which si BS

[lone bloom]

it drops down to 0 if shields deplet

[humble anvil]

ah so yeah its bugged a bit.

[lone bloom]

if it works*

so they are i think 3% more tanky with shields on

than in PU

[desert gorge]

why bugged ? it was 45% or was that BS type AGAIN

[humble anvil]

basically someone found out that the shields are bugged to the old power triangle and the shields only reduce 33% at max, and reduce over time as shield depletes

[lone bloom]

well with Hull and shield its actually 73%

[humble anvil]

and CIG adjusting the shield values did literally nothing

[desert gorge]

so that means in german or english in that case

so for NOW its no different

[lone bloom]

it isn't

because its bugged

[desert gorge]

but once the effect comes in Balliustic is useless against shields

[humble anvil]

its different from the PU Ballistics are like.. 20% more efficient at killing

[lone bloom]

it is supposed to be useless against shields mate

Ballistics are meant to shredd hulls, not shields

[humble anvil]

but ye soon when they fix it, shields will eat 45% of the ballistic damage, rest will go to hull

[desert gorge]

the ammo is supposed to penetrate shields effectifly

to damage ships unlike obv laser

[humble anvil]

as shields deplete, shieds will eat less of the ballistic damage and rest will go to hull

[humble anvil]

fucking supposed to, but CIG mate

[lone bloom]

yes, but shields are supposed to still "minimize" it, - if the shields take damage over time of the ballistics, their reduction will also become less and less until they hit 0

[desert gorge]

ye true that

[desert gorge]

yes minimize which would be around 20-30% which would be fine! which it was at a earlier PTU patch but changed to 45% which is beyond BS

"minimize" doesnt mean half it

but as Rustle said

its CIG

[lone bloom]

Well they just switched the numbers from hull to shield

[desert gorge]

hull is still 38%

[lone bloom]

hull was previously 50

[desert gorge]

which would equal up to 83% dmg reduc against full shields

[lone bloom]

or better said, on PU it is still 50

[desert gorge]

which would mean perseus is useless against idris again

bc the perseus will never break an idris shield

[lone bloom]

yes - on PU its 80%

[humble anvil]

still dont know what CIG is doing lol.. i think thats their plan. if they dont know what they're doing, we dont know what they're doing

[desert gorge]

classic confusion tactics

[lone bloom]

even the confusion is confused

Yeah but maybe thats them trying to balance perseus too

so it does not fuck a idris just because maybe?

because it can't really deplet it shields to zero that fast

but on other ships it can

[desert gorge]

its not supposed to fk the idris but disable it at least if it doesnt focus the perseus

[humble anvil]

i try to think and what ive heard about ballistics... Right its supposed to rip through shields into armor into hull, and that comes with a cost: Ballistic cost.

and then lasers are supposed to be economic and affordable : Bust through shields and melt armor and hull.

[lone bloom]

It will still be able to disable it very quickly

did you not saw the Idris main turret vs polaris engines?

[desert gorge]

i saw it

and i still enjoy it

bc i have an idris

[lone bloom]

yeah just a few seconds per engine

and thats with PU

where it is slower

and with a gun that has less DPS significantly

[desert gorge]

hmh PTU is 83% PU is 80% which would mean ballistics will get nerfed untiol shielkds are gone

[lone bloom]

not until they are gone

if they take damage they lose also their reduction over time

[desert gorge]

they weaken over time yes

[humble anvil]

https://youtu.be/oKcZzCDCx6o?si=r9IAT_nI0t88laiZ&t=312

[lone bloom]

so if shields are at 50%

their reduction is also halfed

so it is just "stronger" than PU for like

... 4 seconds

[humble anvil]

jesus christ

those cannons are insane

and to think Perseus's will be even more insane

[lone bloom]

so a Perseus will absolutely be able to disable engines faster than the IDris

[humble anvil]

but hammerhead will get more hull points with standard

[lone bloom]

HH dead after like

13 seconds?

with shield

[desert gorge]

and perseus will propably get 50% more dmg

and has 1 turret more

[lone bloom]

nvm 11 seconds

checked it

[humble anvil]

wow

[lone bloom]

8-9 seconds for the main engine

with shield

[humble anvil]

in the PU

where ballistics arent 20% more efficient

[lone bloom]

and you are worried it won't be able to do it to a idris?

[humble anvil]

wewww

60k HP

in no time

those big engines are 60k

[desert gorge]

i mean

i am scared taht the perseus will not be as usefull as i hope it to be

bc im stupoidly annoyed by the idrtis bc there is nothign to do against it

and i own one

[humble anvil]

Idris is 200-300k per engine block

[lone bloom]

I mean... dunno how much HP a Idris engine has, but if dual S7 can destroy a 60K HP engine within 9 seconds.... with shields

Perseus will be able to do the same likely in 5-6 seconds with one turret

[humble anvil]

wow

[desert gorge]

4x S8 will shjred em

i need more Perseus copium

[humble anvil]

yeah dude idris pilots gotta be careful with perseus

they'll meme your engines quick

[lone bloom]

So Idris main engine would be gone with a perseus in like uh... 15 sec?

maybe 20 at best

and it aint that hard to stay behind a ship that size

especially assoon it loses its first engine

[humble anvil]

8 seconds for Polaris main engine

8 seconds for 60k

40 seconds for idris engine

if all hits are on

but also thats

s7 stats

so Perseus cannons do 50% of the Idris cannons with linear scaling

[midnight crypt]

Who says the Perseus gonna be agile? Old ship with a lot of armour to move

[humble anvil]

that should be 4 seconds

or 20 seconds per idris engine

[lone bloom]

old isn't true, its a new model of a old ship

[humble anvil]

but if both turrets are on target

2 seconds for polaris engine

10 seconds per idris engine

[lone bloom]

and you copium hard if you think they will make a sub cap slower than a cap

especially slower than a idris

[midnight crypt]

Not slower. Same as cap or just slightly faster than the Polaris

[desert gorge]

i mean the Tac is slow AF

and its smaller

[lone bloom]

it will be slightly faster than the polaris - and thats more than enough

I assume TAC stats or similar

pre buff*

aka being 5* faster in everything than Polaris

thats enough to stay in polaris back, and more than enough to stay in idris back

and ya aint gonna tell me a ship with likely 3x less mass, 3x less HP (at best, likely even less than 3x) and being 2/3 of the polaris size should be as slow - or slower - than a polaris

[midnight crypt]

I assume even if you are behind an idris when you first encounter, I don’t see Perseus being a stealth ship to get close enough to stay on the stern. Once the Perseus gets seen my idris and starts spinning around. Gotta try to stay out from the front to close the gap

[lone bloom]

well, ofc lol Idris railgun is bad

or laser (if it would work)

Longrange fight perseus always loses

at least against caps

[midnight crypt]

With the things we know the Perseus is this perfect ship but we don’t know it’s mobility and it’s detection range

[lone bloom]

Sorry but if they will make it as slow or slower than the polaris

CIG would be straight up stupid^^

And I would be very veeery curious about their reason why they would do that

[lone bloom]

Because all that would speak against that

[humble anvil]

so anyways we talk about memeing polaris engines or Idris engines

[midnight crypt]

But what would be its nerf to keep it being the most perfect ship that you don’t need no other?

[humble anvil]

lets talk about the M2s or the Paladins that are going to exist

even the connies

[lone bloom]

Its not the best ship- the caps still have significantly more cargo - med bays - ability to bring their own escort - more range by alot - aren't as vurnable to fighters as the perseus^^

[humble anvil]

ah yes

[midnight crypt]

You are comparing it to capitals. They are their own league. What about other sub cap ships?

[lone bloom]

A Idris with 1-2 fighter escort are a serious threat to a lonely perseus

[humble anvil]

Reason why I fly Perseus and nothing else :

There are a million smalls ships that can all kill each other. There's not alot that will be able to effectively kill a Perseus without some trying. It doesnt take long, but its enough time for perseus to tank hits and escape if needed.

[lone bloom]

Well, its main purpose os to destroy sub caps so

and the hammerheads purpose is to destroy smaller ships than sub caps

[humble anvil]

and gonna blade the perseus turrets, literally all of them

why peresus is the best ship

and small ships have no problem with them because of the 2 dual s3 pdts

and big guns for the m2s etc for headhunters and foxwell cargo gathering

great ship.

and the pdts we strip that shit off for lasers lol and they get multi crew capacitors

175 rounds per gun

[lone bloom]

also just to note, a HH is also a serious threat to a Polaris and Idris

at least rn, if crewed

[midnight crypt]

Yeah but there should be a way for other sub caps to at least fight back instead of most likely blowing up in 4 seconds from a full salvo

[humble anvil]

dont be on the receiving end of a Perseus.. eventually not everything will be so murder hobo

but right now

nothing yah can do except try to run away with tail tucked between your legs

[lone bloom]

Well you want to fight a ship, with a ship thats literally its prey...:?

Its like saying i wanna beat rock with scissors

[humble anvil]

well they could if that rock in question was made of jello.. *stares at hammerhead

*stares at anvil hornets

[lone bloom]

Perseus direct counter would be something like a Ares, swarm of fighters, or and in addition a eclipse or retalliator ....

Not a Hammerhead

Or exceeding force - aka something like a javelin

or idris and or Polaris with escort fighters

it has more than enough counter ships/playstyles

SC players just need to use their brain

and not just go "brrr brbrbrbrb ahha go dead"

[midnight crypt]

You can be minding your own business and a Perseus shows up out of no where and wants to fight. Hell hammerhead suppose to shoot down small ships but a single arrow can take it down

[lone bloom]

well thats because of missing armor and engineering tho

Perseus will have the same fate

without those

Just... like a Idris and Polaris share also that same fate....

They can also be taken down by fighters

at least in the current PTU/PU

[midnight crypt]

But makes it way harder with the PDCs

[lone bloom]

Realisticly Fighters winn against Perseus - Hammerhead winns against fighters - hammerhead loses against perseus

[lone bloom]

you mean the pdcs that can be easily outranged.....??

sure, you cannot dance anymore around ships like it used to pre PDC's

but you absolutely still can kill them if you stay on distance

and that counts for any larger ship than a fighter

Right now, you technically (for PvP or PvE) you don't need any larger or other ship - than a light or medium fighter^^

without armor, or and engineering, it will stay like that

[tawny fern]

yea

we need armor

[long gyro]

So excited for armour

[tawny fern]

i am tired of this fighter meta

[lone bloom]

So yes - the perseus is not "the ship" you need or want for everything simply because of that, until armor, and even then, its still vulnerable to other ships like ares and fighters

or Torpedos - especially combined with ares

[long gyro]

Although also it’s kinda sad because if you’re in a fighter and don’t have friends or org-mates with bigger guns you’re kinda fucked

[lone bloom]

well or a 0 braincell perseus pilot facing a Idris from the front

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

And yes

it happens alot - at least with HH pilots

Some people just aren't made to fly larger ships

[humble anvil]

im literally using my Perseus for Bunkers

[lone bloom]

Box missions

Delievery

[humble anvil]

literally

[long gyro]

Poor turrets…

[humble anvil]

i knowwwwwwwwwwwwww

hoping blade tech comes at IAE

[lone bloom]

"See that over there?" "Yes sir?" "I don't want to" "Understood, deleting that general direction"

[humble anvil]

lol then dont have to worry about it

[long gyro]

Average space marine Titan moment

[humble anvil]

personally i think blade tech is coming at IAE lol... i think the bladed turrets will turn very slowly very very slow and be quite pepega but having them better than not

[lone bloom]

turnspeed 3 degrees per workday

[humble anvil]

and perseus and hammerhead going to be the first ships to utilize it

just my hot take

[long gyro]

Reworked:
“See that over there?”
“Yes sir.”
“I don’t want to.”
“What was where, sir?”

[humble anvil]

CIG be like : More ships will come with Blade Tech as we test their implementation on the Hammerhead and Perseus.

and proceed to not implement blades for other ships

think about it, what ship comes to mind when you would want to maximize blade tech?

Hammerhead, Idris?

imagine they make people pay $15 maybe 25$ per blade

but also make it a wikelo exclusive

[lone bloom]

Polaris

[humble anvil]

yeah polaris and idris too

but what other ships, honestly?

[lone bloom]

Sl tac maybe

Retalliator if even has computers

[humble anvil]

i cant genuinely think of another ship to utilize blade tech on other than the hammerhead, polaris, and the idris

and them standardizing the hammerhead mannnn

with the vision perception in AI (TECH) in monthly report

[long gyro]

It’s standard now, it is a uniform amalgamation of lights brighter than the sun in the ptu

[humble anvil]

i know... i flew it.. lol

its definitely "gold" standard

call it, sun standard thats how bright it is

[long gyro]

Solar blinded me with it bro

I was chilling in the Apollo and got flash-banged

Makes sense tho

Solar + Bright object

[humble anvil]

"You dont have what it takes to kill me"
-flashbang-
"aughh"

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-flashbang-renza-gif-3499959455427823758

[midnight crypt]

Arrastra

[humble anvil]

well obviously.. sorry i should have said in the current game environment

[lone bloom]

i mean obviously the javelin smh

[midnight crypt]

My kraken got 4 dual S5 remote turrets

Hmm

[lone bloom]

thought the kraken has a dual S8 front turret

[midnight crypt]

1 dual S8, 4 dual S6 and 4 dual S5

[long gyro]

Kraken very cool

[midnight crypt]

But that can change. Hoping IAE they say what’s going on with the reconcept

Or citcon

[lone bloom]

Well I wouldn't be suprised if they go Dual S9

[humble anvil]

How did we get here?

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1409323377990045748/PerseusPraise.gif

[humble anvil]

If the Ares actually performed well for a S7 we wouldn't have to push ships into the S8 and S9 category

It's freaking insane

Cannons on ballistics are just superior lol. Get so much more damage down range because of heat accumulation

[midnight crypt]

I am hoping for that and also move those long antennas and put a railgun there

Also hope it gets is PDCs even though it’s based off a military aircraft carrier. It is considered civilian by CIG…

[humble anvil]

What

It should definitely get PDCs

That's weird if it doesn't

[midnight crypt]

Yeah kraken is a civilian ship

[humble anvil]

What

All ships are civilian ships though except a few

[midnight crypt]

So by that logic it doesn’t get PDCs

[humble anvil]

Because they're variants of military ships

Aaaaaa I see

There's no military variant of the Kraken because it's not in use by the UEE?

Never had military applications

[midnight crypt]

Yeah

[humble anvil]

Dude Drake is Lowkey going to be the ultimate villain

[midnight crypt]

But with them working on a reconcept everything could change

[humble anvil]

Inb4 Drake is a main player in a future sector where Drake is claiming a territory that's conflicted with the Xi'an

And Drake commits war crimes

[midnight crypt]

They always has been

[humble anvil]

And we get a PU event where the sector flip flops between Drake and Xian control

And it's up to citizens which side they want to support

Fuck dude and it's going to sound so good on Perseus because we'll be right beside the engines

Won't be like Polaris where we're in the front of the ship

It's going to be so good @lone bloom

🤤 🤤

[midnight crypt]

Blasphemy

[lone bloom]

Sounds like someone who shouldn't be in that channel then, right?

since he is a

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-40k-spacemarine2-heresy-heretic-gif-15781539930698202487

[humble anvil]

BRO PULLED UP A MESSAGE FROM 2023

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lone bloom]

Still valid

[humble anvil]

Megxde is very neutral

[midnight crypt]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-the-witch-frances-conroy-pyre-fire-burn-gif-5477510085187829975

[midnight crypt]

Megxde gonna show up and be really confused XD

[errant ice]

It is considered an attack carrier, so i really really hope it gets pdc or else its joever

[lone bloom]

Imagine having like all your goods on your kraken and all your ships because you moving basebuild locations and just get randomly torpedoed because you don't have pdcs

[humble anvil]

Hacker 1 shot blows it up

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

Another problem with these huge ships

You're a target

[lone bloom]

doesn't matter how huge your ship is

they blow up any ship in that area

[midnight crypt]

One thing that is gonna suck with bases. There is probably gonna code somewhere that tell where your base is at and the hacker is just gonna tp there and either steal everything and or blow it up

[humble anvil]

Unfortunately. The truth is the game is screwed design wise. They will not be able to fix how client authoritative it is and expect the game to work like an MMO with thousands of players

We saw PES, we saw what it was like before 3.18

They'll need to be smart with bases and put shit behind a master list off the server

Hopefully they get it right..

So much work... So much

Imagine if the server calculated all damage done and checked for validation

The game wouldn't work

If the server tracked speed hackers or weird giant steps in movement like teleporting

Some games you'd try to go faster than you'd be able to and the server snaps you back. That's what would happen

[midnight crypt]

Even if CIG fixes that they would still have the coordinates for the bases and can just fly a ship to it. And if somehow they manage to hide the bases. Doesn’t matter since you’ll still be able to get player coords

[humble anvil]

The game pretty sure gives you player cords as well, they legit pull up to bases save the cords, and teleport back later

Xddd

[lapis kayak]

it has torps and bigger guns

[humble anvil]

The classification is annoying because CIG calls it's a heavy gunship but also a gunboat

[midnight crypt]

Bases can only be built in UEE territory so one thing I hope for is space stations can be built anywhere and have them built in non UEE to protect. I would fly the pioneer way out of the star system until it’s almost out of hydrogen and build a space station there

[humble anvil]

Think too like; location location location

Would it be profitable to base off the edge of Stanton?

[lapis kayak]

perseus will destroy fighters

[lapis kayak]

my big s8 cannon will fix that distance issue i am not a coper i swear

[lapis kayak]

fuck it, light gunship

give the perseus 400m/s scm speed

remove all the armor and add MORE s8 guns

[humble anvil]

The PDCs, and alt fire gatlings on turret will do fine against fighters

[lapis kayak]

i can be trusted to balance the game i swear

[humble anvil]

Mad lad

[round zodiac]

redoomer

[humble anvil]

That a terrible idear

Ideer

[azure fulcrum]

flak screen by the smaller turrets will make scrap metal of all fighters that come near

[lapis kayak]

he gets it

[lone bloom]

Bases can be build everywhere, not just uee territory

[azure fulcrum]

https://imgur.com/HDz2vyJ

[lone bloom]

(Aka pyro for example)

[lone bloom]

I wonder if you would be safe from that in the full sec areas

Since they said buildings would be undestroyable

Or if people with mod clients could Bypass that

[humble anvil]

There's a lot of space

ALOT ALOT ALOT

If each player can have 1 10x10km

Uhhhh I know went off track there

Geuss we'll see if CIG is silly

Because if our shit gets stolen consistently then yeah something is wrong

[lone bloom]

Dont even bother with 10x10

2x2 is maybe more than enough for a Single person

[round zodiac]

well each planet is like 8000x8000 rn isnt it?

[lone bloom]

Maybe 4x4 if ya feeling like extra stuff

[round zodiac]

the buildings are quite large based on the base building trailer

[humble anvil]

Not 1km big tho lol

[lone bloom]

Yeah

At max 300 m

And that would be xl hangar

[humble anvil]

Tbh ye they should squeeze that down a bit

[round zodiac]

but having a couple drills, a storage room, fab, hab

batisfactory bases get very big very fast

[humble anvil]

1km x 1km good enough

That's so much distance

[lone bloom]

It aint satisfactory

You will likely have one storage access, one hangar, one manufacture hangar, a gen, and a drill maybe refinery as solo player

And that surely even with xl size fits easily in a 2x2 from what they showed

[humble anvil]

Imagine the FPS if they incorporate some bullshit where if you leave stuff out on your plot to "age" like 16scu crates of cheese

[lone bloom]

I personally would prob go for 4x4 simply because i wanna build decorative stuff alot, but prob wont even will the majority of space still

[round zodiac]

beeg

[humble anvil]

Planets fill with cheese bases

[lone bloom]

Yeah thats already medium sized hub....

The small ones is barely larger than a starter ship

[midnight crypt]

I hope so. I want to build a space station so far that really only my kraken can go to and from. Very limited on who can go to my station and I can carry ships I need for what ever I want to do

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-gif-25732604

[humble anvil]

Mans

[midnight crypt]

https://starcitizen.tools/Land_Claim

[lone bloom]

I mean distance wouldnt stop a Modder to teleport there

Yeah those are landclaims

You dont need landclaims in unlawfull systems

[humble anvil]

OwO

[lone bloom]

They literally said you can build anywhere in unlawfull areas

Because

Yk

No rules

[humble anvil]

Bro builds next to a money printing area

[lone bloom]

Just to get raided

[humble anvil]

🥺

I'm staying in castra

Fuck y'all and y'all's PVP

[midnight crypt]

Eventually they might be able to ban people that tp. All they need to do is look at their coords and if they jump instantly then just ban them

[lone bloom]

Would max build there a Drill and generator (in unlawfull)

Just to get materials i need

[humble anvil]

2000 iron and Copper!!!!

[lone bloom]

Base would be still gone unless it happens automatically also just jumping cords happens in sc very frequently

.... for example getting teleported by the system

Or respawning at a station post death

Would be needed to filtered out

[lone bloom]

I mean they said pyro will have valuable materials

So its worth mining there instead in other systems

[humble anvil]

When it's worth giving a fuck about

[lone bloom]

Also i may note, pyro is safer in terms of pvp

Than stanton

[humble anvil]

When it's worth mining pyro or the game calls for it

Otherwise I just end up doing what I did for that one event lol

Mine like 2k corundum, copper

[lone bloom]

I mean you probably also can just buy the materials likely but for higher prices

[humble anvil]

Yeaaaaaa~

I sleep now

[grave canyon]

are you okay

[grave canyon]

i still stand by it

it's a combat ship (which is something i'm not terribly interested in especially pvp) and it's gonna be huge money sink in game

im only getting perseus because cool

[desert gorge]

Will be interesting to see combat ships once nyx comes out tbh 🤔 espeically in PVE bc of vanduul

O-o

[midnight crypt]

Perfectly fine. My phone can scroll all the way to the first messages instantly and just so happen to see your message

[grave canyon]

lit

[azure fulcrum]

combat is so boring I'd rather do tedious soulcrushing braindead labor mine by using a beam, drag boxes with a beam, stare at a salvage beam all day and zone out

hear hear

[grave canyon]

yeah i get it, putting your reticle in circle and pressing LMB is way more fun than putting your reticle on box and pressing LMB

hear hear

[azure fulcrum]

You see the same on steam apparently people like these "cozy" job simulator type games

I think they're boring asf XDD

anything "cozy" I stay away from lol

[azure fulcrum]

fair PvE is the same NPCs are braindead and its just a matter of lining up the pips tbh

There's no strategy or higher brain functions required

[lone bloom]

ah yes, getting home from work

to work on PC

[lone bloom]

I guess thats why most peeps do not like if a ship requires a actual strategy to be taken down

see yesterdays chat about Perseus lmao

"I want to be able to kill it with a Hammerhead"

Meanwhile literally the promo picture:

Or - also relevant ship since same applied there - Ares Inferno and Ion

[desert gorge]

Thats a good joke lol the ares is beyond garbage rn 😂 if it had any good dps sure but the dmg is just soooooo bad 🫠

Ion is somewhat decent but even that is just meh

The ares should be an obv counter to cap ships but it simply isnt bc of the low dmg

[lone bloom]

it wasnt at release

Guess why its garbage.

Because people cried that they actually need strategy to take it down and not just fly blindly towards it

and it got nerfed after nerf after nerf ^^

[azure fulcrum]

Lmao

[humble anvil]

Thug of Stanton

Those turret stats are pretty accurate

Even 10k Alpha per I mean totally fucking possible

If CIG wants Perseus to punch capitals it'll be 10k Alpha

if they kept it s7 then I think the focus would be sub capital

Them going S8 beyond marketing and power creep money sounds to me like Perseus is supposed to punch and harass capitals

$900 ship. Gotta put some holes in your hull

Caaan I 🎵 put some holes in your hull~ holes in your hull~ 🎵

...........

PATCH 3.2.1 Page is no longer WIP, and is completed. Pushing soon.

Nothing new on Paladin, Esperia Stinger, GMS, or Perseus. All still remain WIP and TBD

[desert gorge]

Dis is photoshop right

[trim pecan]

Oh, is Perseus coming this year?

[long gyro]

We pray

[desert gorge]

it should def it was announced at least last year that we get it this year and most likely in NOV to IAE

[desert gorge]

i want to believe but due to bespoke which i believe will be 7.5S not full S8

[fluid matrix]

The guns are bespoke. So they can tweak them how they feel right without having to worry about other ships ballance. Size doesnt matter here.

[lone bloom]

Was like... announced almost a year ago that it will release this year - current informations are IAE

Possibility of citizenscon release is also there

[trim pecan]

I don't own one, but someone in my group does, and I honestly forgot it was possible this year

It's like the perfect size for a few people to do a gunboat

Should be fun

[lone bloom]

Well its rn the furthest ship in the pipeline

Besides Apollo

[sand hound]

They literally nerfed the redeemer from size 5 to size 4 why would they buff it

They said only large military ships will get PDC’s with the exception of the ships already concepted and promised PDC’s like the Connie Phoenix

[sand hound]

Are there any bespoke guns that are weaker than their given size number?

[desert gorge]

L21

they are weaker but more accurate/range and ammo count

[sand hound]

Is their projectile speed higher?

[humble anvil]

If Idris turret is a bespoke ballistic cannon

On that torpedo boat

To be honest I see why it was overtuned because it needed to compensate for the torpedoes being ass

Hmm

[midnight crypt]

I bought both the laser and the torps. And I only bought the torps for the s7 guns

[humble anvil]

But you could use the ballistic cannon with the rail gun right

Yeah I thought so

[sand hound]

Yeah

That’s what I run

[humble anvil]

Hmm

[midnight crypt]

But I did have a friend give me the railgun

[humble anvil]

So they give it size 7 but actual damage is of a size 8 from Polaris scaling

But it also doesn't have a lot of ammo

[sand hound]

Didn’t they buff its ammo

[humble anvil]

320 Canon shots per gun

Something like that It's not bad

But what each gun is only 2.2 million damage

[midnight crypt]

But it can fire fast so the ammo count kinda sucks

[humble anvil]

Yeah

Hmmm

When Perseus is gimmick is pretty much having big guns and for it to run out of ammo so quickly

In for it to also be hot s***

The math ain't mathing

[midnight crypt]

How my idris is set up

[humble anvil]

I think the Perseus will have lots of Ammo until it's shit is physicalized

[sand hound]

Well the Percy’s gimmick is slow firing turrets with different ammo types

[humble anvil]

Ye!

[sand hound]

I don’t see it shooting anywhere close to conquerer 7

It may have similar rotation speed though

[midnight crypt]

For Perseus being small with S8. I could see a very limited ammo count like 100 to 150 per gun

Maybe even less

[humble anvil]

Hmmmm

[sage python]

Expect 2-5s between shots

I'm thinking 2.5-3, I picture 5" guns on modern ships

[humble anvil]

If it's actually 2 seconds between shots. That means it's 30 rounds per minute

That means the alpha damage on that m*********** is going to be huge

If it's actually 5 seconds between shots

F*** I died

12 rounds per minute

[tawny fern]

nooooooooooooooooo

[humble anvil]

Brother in Chris Roberts

[desert gorge]

i feel that did the same lol

[humble anvil]

12 rounds per minute what is that like 30,000 alpha

But hey if they did that then you would only really be engaging subcapital in capital ships

Subcapital n capital ships

But it's also getting the ballistic alternate fire just like javelin turrets

So I don't know

Who knows what they'll do

[midnight crypt]

Eventually I want to sell mostly everything and buy that $15k pack for the idris m

[desert gorge]

ye not worth it for me but i get it but since there is the possabilty of converting the P to an M i dont mind the work

[midnight crypt]

Yeah but I feel like the M is gonna be like a wikelo 2.0 conversion and or ship to get it

[azure fulcrum]

Is the 15k pack available for store credit?

[desert gorge]

i think so

[azure fulcrum]

Eww I hope not. It'll probably be tied into the reputation system you'd need a certain standing with the UEE navy and jump through hoops to get it

[desert gorge]

id be happy with it honestly its a grind i like it

i hope for Base building anyway for mindless gridns

[azure fulcrum]

I wonder what the discount is on the 15k pack

[azure fulcrum]

You'll be able to build your own ships if you grind for the schematics lol

[desert gorge]

its what ill do hehe

[azure fulcrum]

Inside base fabs

[lone bloom]

"only" 2.2 million lmao

[azure fulcrum]

I miss chris roberts, rlly hope well get to see him on shitizencon

Need him to tell me everythings gonna be alright

[lone bloom]

I mean lets just assume percy also will have around 2.2 million damage per turret until runs out

that would be still enough to kill a idris?

[humble anvil]

i think if every shot landed. yesnt

technically yes

alot of damage getting soaked by that fat shield

[lone bloom]

I mean its hard to miss such a big target

[humble anvil]

need to do 292,500 damage on a single shield facing just to knock the Quadrant to 50% : for absorption to hit 24%... anyways

585,000 damage will be absorbed by shields one way or another

this is if you're even hitting the same facing

with 20% ballistic reduction on the hull...

lets just say you're hitting the ass of the idris, dead on, every time; no engines or anything extra

need to do total of 3,048,000 damage on the tail but since 585,000 is going to be absorbed one way or another...

you'd need to do a collective 3,633,000 total damage. This includes the arbitrary 20% reduction on hull by default.

thats if every shot landed the same spot, every time.

539 single Conqueror 7 bullets. or : 269 per gun. for that single turret

or

2 minutes 41 seconds of continous non stop shooting

[lone bloom]

so it is enough to kill it potentially with both turrets

[humble anvil]

12 seconds of continous fire with a 10 second CD

2 minutes of total Cooldown

about 5 minutes of continous hold down (with cooldown timer) , not missing a single shot, with idris turret

[humble anvil]

yerp

If Perseus gets more alpha has a better sustain DPS than Idris, with both turrets on and not missing a single bullet

maybe a 2 minute kill?

lets just say the Perseus per turret will do 20% more dps than the Idris turret. sec.

4 minutes, 2 minutes per turret.

[lone bloom]

I mean "technically" it shoud do 50% more no?^^

because of 1.5x upscale

[humble anvil]

technically it should do 50%

[midnight crypt]

I sold my BMM and liberator and couple others to buy the $1,700 company pack

[humble anvil]

if perseus did 20% more, but lets assume 50%

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

3 minute, 17 seconds. 1 turret
or
1 minute, 38.5 seconds 2 turrets

would genuinely scare capitals lol

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-the-scar-precisely-gif-12215653

[humble anvil]

i dont see the need for them to give the perseus S8 unless they were intending it to legit punch capitals

and not tickle them

especially since they gave idris a S7 with that much damage

I forsee a overtuned Perseus turret in our future.

[humble anvil]

imagine the S2 / 3 Ballistic Gatling on Alt Fire has infinite ammo lol

because of "reload" which isnt actually a reload if ammo isnt physicalized

[lone bloom]

I'm still just thinking that they want to switch the perseus focus

and be more like a anti capital browler than a anti sub cap

[humble anvil]

hear me out brother

[round zodiac]

suddenly Perseus is a dropship

[lone bloom]

or better said - both

[round zodiac]

reverse redeemer

[humble anvil]

two funny guys just manifesting their Persy

manifested that shitttt

[round zodiac]

legend

rustled their jimmies

[humble anvil]

we got emmm

[round zodiac]

psycho Perseus?

[lone bloom]

subtile foreshadowing

[humble anvil]

watch em upscale the remote turret to S4

[lone bloom]

i mean that was originally leaked

sooo

HOLD UP

What if

the S3 remote turret wasn't meant by that

but the alt fire is the Dual S4

[humble anvil]

OwO

hang on sec

[sand hound]

That would make more sense

What’s the jav turret

[lone bloom]

S5 S7

[sand hound]

Size 7 with size 5

[lone bloom]

perseus would be S4 S8 then

[sand hound]

S4 makes more sense then

[humble anvil]

you got a point here Ravy

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

it was originally leaked to get S4

[lone bloom]

also would make more sense

because

S3 are better against fighters

than S4

so better having the S4s as Alt fire, than having them as the remote turrets

4x S3, 4x S4, 4x S8, 20x S6 Torps + 4 PDCs

Mark my words

[humble anvil]

and people say im coping

and there's no way

[long gyro]

since when did perseus value go up??

[humble anvil]

since i said so

[lone bloom]

Praise the perseus value

[humble anvil]

4.3.1 is cominggg

prob this thursday

[long gyro]

noooooo

I need more time for resource drive

2 hercules and I finish microtech

[humble anvil]

think when they do the 'this week in star citizen'

will have patch watch

because the 4.3.1 patch pages are both done

[lone bloom]

Literally with the current speed and full cargo load of those

you can finish a company within 3 hours from start to finish

Used to be 11-13 hours lmao

[long gyro]

Nah it’s so quick now

Not as quick as when you could do all 4 corps in a day

But not bad

I might be able to finish microTech and get T2 for the armour on the two other corps if I’m lucky

[lone bloom]

me who has them finished all weeks ago

https://tenor.com/view/muehehehe-gif-4405977563994366182

[long gyro]

I mean I had two months to do them it’s completely my bad for trying to do them at the last minute

But I had a change of heart and decided I wanted the rewards after all

[lone bloom]

i mean technically you only need one company T5 to get "everything"

weapon and armor wise

everything above that is just paints

[long gyro]

That’s the point

I want the different skins and weapons

Once I complete microTech though I don’t care much for the arccorp and crusader rewards

Except the crusader strata armour

[lone bloom]

I mean I got them because you could still "sell" them maybe at some point xD

especially the guns - like if one dude wants XYZ paintjob and it costs therefor more than just the normal weapon

[humble anvil]

you know what?

[lone bloom]

Praise our lord and saviour perseus?

[humble anvil]

They're stupid because they're not flying a Perseus

[lone bloom]

I mean we aren't either yet

[humble anvil]

Are we the Heretics?

Is everyone Heretics?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-adventure-time-lemongrab-freakout-armflail-gif-5515437

[lone bloom]

still one of the most cursed ones

[humble anvil]

Perseus shitpost made in 1 minute

Perseus over the last few months

[lone bloom]

fucking made a full complication of it

[humble anvil]

-20 braincells

its so fucking stupid

[lone bloom]

Tradeoff for more perseus

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-acceptable-gus-fring-acceptable-better-call-saul-acceptable-gif-25806382

[lone bloom]

To do that before it even releases bro

and now do it with Polaris and Idris

[lone bloom]

Want me to cook something this time too?

[humble anvil]

ye

[lone bloom]

Give me 5 min

[lone bloom]

[lone bloom]

Should add a "buy here" button i guess

[humble anvil]

praise

[lone bloom]

Praise the purrseus

its weirdly quiet in here

[humble anvil]

yeahhh

im lowkey addicted to youtube shorts.. naruto keeps popping up

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/dhomine-adam-dhomine-adam-obito-obito-dhomine-adam-obito-madara-obito-sumindo-gif-5905224914272549379

[humble anvil]

yeeeee its a mix between naruto and boruto shiiiit, just watch mitsuki (orichimaru's kid unlock his sage powers) but yeah uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

its better than the horse girls

[lone bloom]

Is there Perseus in it?

[humble anvil]

that uhh horse anime girl... god damn it took forever ot get that off my feed

yeah perseus is on feed too when anything new happens

[lone bloom]

imagine all the social media stuff with perseus once release

[humble anvil]

oh hey look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y3mkQQkYzQ

[lone bloom]

saw that one already

[humble anvil]

fuck

[lone bloom]

but he has a better gif of the hammerhead promo picture xd

I wonder if you can do ambush stuff with a Perseus, like, fully turned off, and the only thing that could give you away is your crosssection which you may could hide behind asteroids

[humble anvil]

the guy does make a good point

open up with torps

hmmm

could you imagine S5 Rattlers

[lone bloom]

we don't even have S4 rattlers

[humble anvil]

IAE could have some new missles

[lone bloom]

i would really wish for new kind of torps and missiles

especially the rattlers because i love them xd

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

Imagine

S5 torp Rattler

[humble anvil]

yes

[lone bloom]

and it splits into 6 S3 Missiles

[humble anvil]

more like

10 S1

[lone bloom]

or multiple versions of rattlers?

one that can split into 10 s1

and others than can split into 6 s3 for example

[humble anvil]

ye

[lone bloom]

and then imagine having the one with 10 S1 loaded on the left side

and the other one on the right side xD

tbf would probably only need "one" of those so the torp that actually is supposed to damage can hit

[humble anvil]

I'm a goo goo baby for my Perseus

Funny thing is it's going to be a hangar decoration

Have more fun shit posting than actually playing the game

[sage python]

hence why i'm expecting like 2-3 but 5 on the high end

no shot it's anything above 45rpm

20-30rpm sounds abt right

[lone bloom]

noone but rustle appreciated my Perseus Poster so far kinda sad now

[humble anvil]

I would take it

[sage python]

could be an alpha beast with 12rpm

lmao

[humble anvil]

Your post was awesome Ravit

[lone bloom]

I have to spam it now so they cannot avoid it

[humble anvil]

It would make it SPECIFICALLY for Capitals and Sub caps

[lone bloom]

[sage python]

I mean

yeah

[humble anvil]

But ye that alt fire Gatling kinda nullifies it

So idk what the play is

[sage python]

you could probably still blap heavies with lucky shits

shots

[humble anvil]

Not even lucky

They move pretty slow

[sage python]

yea lmao

[humble anvil]

Luck is light and medium fighters

[sage python]

was this confirmed or nah

i cant imagine that drastic of a change

[lone bloom]

oh god

I would have to update the picture and text soontm

[humble anvil]

You want my opinion? Basically confirmed

Those two turrets aren't for show

And aren't there original concept or model

Even silhouette Perseus doesn't have them

[lone bloom]

AND it was leaked it will have S4 guns

which wasn't confirmed yet - but apparantly they are there on the main turrets

even tho they look like S3 to me

[humble anvil]

Angles

I'm going with s3 as well but how far away it is,

And we can still see the barrel

Maybe s4

[lone bloom]

S4 Ballistic Gatling as alt fire

[humble anvil]

Look at the s8 below ot

[lone bloom]

would kinda remove its only weakness tho

Fighters

I mean it got now pdcs, it got automated S3 turrets and then S4 alt fire? xD

Thats more than the HH offers in terms of anti fighter, if uncrewed

[humble anvil]

Can see the tiny tip of the s8 and how big it is

Does look s3 doesn't it

Tell yah man

The Perseus keeps winning

[humble anvil]

Problem with hammerhead is if it did get PDC, it would have a hard time running full lasers

The power consumption on that ship is god awful

Prone to fires for sure

Meanwhile the perse be like; hehe coolers go brrr

[lone bloom]

Meanwhile hammerhead :

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

[humble anvil]

Fucking 10 year old ship

You bet your titties we're going to keep getting away with it

First ship to replace the hammerhead besides a Polaris I've guess

Except no one wants to fly the Polaris

Or man a turret

Optimized like freeware

@lone bloom

This might be stupid

Sec

[lone bloom]

Except for the polaris Copers that want the percy to be slower than it

Just because more expensive and bigger has to be better in their view

[humble anvil]

Brother in Chris

I kid you not

Dual barrel

I looked at the silloheute

Obviously they added those gatlings and maybe it's just angle but

Looks like a fucking

Jav gun

[lone bloom]

Dual Barrel means nothing

looks at Meteor

[humble anvil]

Obv

[lone bloom]

It just looks better

[humble anvil]

It also looks like javelin gun lol

Sideways

Yes I know m9a

Blah blah blah

Dual barrel Perseus

But the alpha per barrel of 5k ? OwO

S8 = 2x S7(?)

Would be very interesting, something I've seen no one even think about

If it happened stagger fire would be insane

Imagine it's fucking tri barrel

$900 ship for sure

WAIT

THE MEDUSA CANNON

MEDUSA HAD MANY SNAKE HEADS

There's not a number, but it's usually left open to interpretation

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

13 snakes above her head

[lone bloom]

Wanna be triggered?

[humble anvil]

Medusa had two wings

Sure Ravit

[lone bloom]

Perseus and Medusa... from rsi

Why is Herkules then on crusader

[humble anvil]

A

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

Chrissssss

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

This guy

Nah but you catching my drift?

What if the s8 upscale was to dual barrel Perseus Medusa Cannon

[lone bloom]

Perhaps

[humble anvil]

Medusa has two wings in her hair

A Medusa Cannon

Two wings

[lone bloom]

Hold up we had the weird Siluette Video from perseus

[lone bloom]

What if s8 is just becsuse its dual barrel

Its dmg is s7

[humble anvil]

Yes

That's what I'm thinking