#Perseus Pals
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you forget the catwalk
the catwalk cockblock the 2nd stack?
very likely
yikes
so you have to place at least the second stack sideways
maybe 20x 32
depending on how wide the catwalk is
maybe even 22x 32
shitwalk
i mean its great to have the catwalk, for boarding defence purposes
at least... it was
before they added the airlock at the bridge

because all entrances lead to the cargo bay
and you would have the high ground
the cakewalk just has rails you're very much exposed on there I believe
but still would have the high ground
i mean you could also shoot from the doors where you can use those as cover
also looks like there are barriers
at both starts of the catwalk
except for the left one back side since there is a ladder
just noticed the actual cargo grid is even smaller than the bay....
cargo platform
it has exactly 50 scu cargo grid did count it
but yes the on elevator grid is the most shit part
has 3 grids on the back wall, 2 on the airlock side, 1 on the elevator
at least the shitwalk is above the non cargo grid to the side
yeah they made the grid too small in the concept
just funny to me
the perseus is literally better in EVERY way than the Hammerhead except fighting against fighters
better crew amount, heavier hitting weapons, better armor, way better cargo area, better interior layout....
Automated PDC's AND automated turrets
ok tbf HH will have better agility but thats it
HEY THO good news is Hammerhead is getting its buff
yeah its cooked
thats good for the perseus
just a HP buff nothing else?
means it WILL receive the HP it deserves

I mean i would have said HH 6000
600*
Persy 800
but I don't mind being in the million area 
600 and 800 if the persy doesnt grow at all
im hoping it goes 1 million to copensate until armor
delicious
i'll still take 1.1mil even if it doesnt grow
But they seriously have to do something with the HH
so its not literally just the "eh" ship
I fucking don't care about the HH but the Percy is literally just so much better .-.
its kinda unfair xD
thats what I'm asking is it only a HP buff?
physical comps, hud, and prob hp
or are they going to improve on the turret gameplay
Gold standard
oh thats it? damn
if they gonna buff the turrets is in the stars
we don't know
also gold standard Aurora btw

since perseus is coming lol.... it needs to be at a decent spot otherwise perseus having a million more HP than it will make people bitch and moan
I'm actually excited for that one
yeah gold aurora is actually hype because conierge gives u one for free
and doesnt require you to have a game package
aurora got great manueverability buff already
they could give it more weapons or something
give it an extra shield why not
couldn't care less about that ugly brick of a ship
I like ugly ships (secretely I like drake) only aestheticly though in practice drake ships suck
drake are literal NPC ships very fragile an cheap canonfodder
used the first time where i started playing SC youtube tutorials how to get into the game first.... Aurora starter package and grind up to Cutlass and rent a roc
soooo yeah they're not really meant to be that great
never - again
I hated the aurora after a few hours
and hated the cutlass even more because ugly ass ship

and for combat missions its still made out of glass compared to heavy fighters which were just a bit more expensive at that time and way better
man
CIG has a backlog of like... 50 years of generated ideas for systems with random lore and shit
this is "Fortunes cross" in Odin system
ohHHHhhh
xD
Odin to release with SQ42
so its likely done everything

likely yes
I asume fortune cross to be also part of castra
at least the type of station
fits to sherman station
just add a few huge turrets to it, remove all the holograms or most of them, done

needs a perseus
would be very dissappointed if they just reuse stanton stations
yes
not like i would care since i would actually mainly use Sherman station or my own base
and only be there to buy stuff potentially for crafting
or building
:0
Soon nms is full with percy
Praise Persy
TBD to change to Citcon 
Meh tbh doesn't matter much lol.
Still need an M2 to show up in the shop
Thing literally non-existent
for my perseus, but you have yours already
being able to grind with it 
Well it doesn't matter It would be nice but
F*** it I guess
As soon as it pops up and shop I'm using store credit if war bond is not available
still have to cope for the Apollo WB tho
Yeah we'll get to see that one soon
i mean the patch just entered PTU so eh
2-3 weeks?
Ye
but dunno rn if I will apply it
knowing now with the medigel costing 100K
even if its just temporarily for me xd
Yes and no
I mean it has medical too 
but also just noticed there will be XL Buildings
Coping that galaxy will have maybe one XL drone
(?)
that thing there is significantly larger than the L hub
Worst case just gonna ask someone with a pioneer to borrow a XL drone 
People just gonna rent their XL drones from their pioneer for big money
all that just to build a fitting military base for perseus

nop galaxy is L size
at least they said it's large
I know
But its a sub cap sized ship, and there is no other ship other than the Pioneer that has XL drones
would be kinda weird no?
Just saying its a possibility that they might give it a XL drone so you don't literally have to go for a cap 
i mean
kinda the point of having a bigger and more capable ship for the job that it gets better gear to do the stuff better
itll have the downside of being an entire ahh cap
copefully
yeah but they specified that the Pioneer is the only ship that is able to construct space stations
and also gains alot of other abilities besides basebuild itsself, would be kinda too much compared to other bld ships then no?
(Onboard crafting, onboard refining, onboard "basebuild" like mining,) its literally a flying base at that point xd
Yeah giving the pioneer exclusively XL and space station capabilities doesn't seem right
Seems fine for space station
I bet galaxy will be able to handle a 1 xl
Maybe not fast but do able
Maybe a change in the future to allow L to make an XL at reduced speeds significantly but we'll see
Yah know like 4x L drones together can make 1 XL
I feel like we're only weeks away from full details of perseus to be revealed the anticipation is getting pretty torturous
Mmmm Citcon
October 11th
Probably get some details
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we're able to fly the Perseus Citcon
or its like a "weapon" "gimbal" you can change
like buy a XL drone at station, and switch the 4Ls with one XL
so you lose 4L drones but gain one XL
would be fine with that, switching to XL to build the few or one XL building you actually want first, then going back to station switching back to L drones and build everything else
ofc most importantly, a throne, a highly decorated landing pad to house the Perseus

and highly secured pad
like, it has its own dedicated defence walls around it
with in each corner dual S5 turrets on the walls

My base is just a pad for the Perseus
So I can login and out
Lots of defensive turrets and ofc a repair shop

Freaking bf6, Citcon
October a good month
I requested off October 10th
PERSEUS MENTIONED
wut
Just a meme to use for later
i mean not imo
It is done
I'm tempted to build another right now just to have two of them on the PTU & at release
Gotta build 4 more of them anyway, to reach other ships
what the hell are you trying to reach?
lol
The Pioneer?
It'll be all of these
Hammerhead is on hold until it gets properly balanced and we see engineering, haven't needed the A2 yet, Nautilus & Odyssey are going long for the next 5+ years
😭
tee hee
I choose to believe tha this is percy turret controls
and unrelated to the apollo
a good salesman indeed
im hype how much longer do we have to wait
For anyone who may be interested:
TDLR at bottom:
First of all apologies for the squiggles, it autosaved half way through and now i have no way of getting rid of them :(
Here are my base dimensions for referance:
Character height (Male) 2 Meters
Height of polaris door inclduing floor and ceiling = 2.5m
Lightbar= 75cm
This viewing angle was dogshit, i imagine for good reason.
In the image below are my workings, Take these with a HUGE chunk of salt nom nom
I calculated a few things based on the size of the elevator and the height of the polari's elevator door, which from floor to ceiling, inclduing both floor and ceiling at door are around 3m in height, from that i guesstimated that the distance between doors is around 4m, which i rounded up from around 3.7-3.8m to give a max range of around 15.5m.
The door spacings are to be taken with extra salt as they are guessed based on the polaris' spacings which is 4-5 ish meters, considering that the polaris is only around 30% larger this does make somewhat sense but i am sure my calculations are off by a fair bit. I also used the lightbars on the right, which are around 75cm as a rounded rough guess, and the distance between the two is approx 3 lightbars meaning that with 4 lightbars and 4 spacings, these give a distance of 11.5m, when added with the space at the top that was too hazy to calculate the distance of but we can guesstimate again that it is mabye somewhere in the range of 2 lightbars, it is safe to say that it is mabye somwehere around 13.5m at the minimum.
My estimation for the persues' elevator shaft is anywhere from 13-15.5m, this is far more likley to be on the low end and my best guess would be around 13.5-14m which for a ship of 20m in height is definitely too large, considering its engine height and the raised bridge. I really couldnt make my mind up on the distance between floors as it is very deciving, i would say my best guess is 3.75m, with the doors themselves being 2,5m
Final calculations:
(4x2)+(2.5x3)= 15.50m (High range)
(4x0.75)+((3x0.75)x4)+(2x0.75)= 13.50m (Low range)
My best guess= 14m
If 14m is the interior elevator size, then it is safe to say that we can give around 3m for the bridge and its roof, considering the elevator would be below it from the whitebox interior design. We then need to give another 4m for the engine "spikes" and the turret (the "spikes" being the pointy things that i can give a better name to), there should then be given another 2m due to its thick armour on the bottom, and likely another 5m below that for the engines again.
TDLR: Expect height of anywhere between 25-30m
My final guess for height is 28m, so smaller than i had anticipated but a bit larger than the 27m guess you had, good guess (assuming this is somewhat accurate info i have created).
Expect any size in the following range to be true
Max: 135x65x30
Min:120x55x25
My personal Expectation: 130x60x28
However, after revewing the info above, i wasnt satisifed with the ratios that my new sizings had maintined, so here is my section regarding that.
Ratios, Volume and other sizing:
Original ratio: 1 : 0.50 : 0.21 (100x50x21)
Max: 1 : 0.48 : 0.22 (135x65x30) (closest to original, just a little wider/taller)
Min: 1 : 0.46 : 0.21 (120x55x25) (slimmer width, same thickness)
Expectation: 1 : 0.46 : 0.22 (130x60x28) (slimmer width, slightly thicker)
The original volume is 105,000 meters³.
Compared to this, the Max size (135×65×30) is 263,250 (about 251% of the original),
The Min (120×55×25) is 165,000 (157%),
The Expectation (130×60×28) is 218,400 (208%).
To keep proportions closer to the original 100:50:21 ratio, the sizes could be adjusted to:
- 120×60×25 (180,000, ~171%),
- 130×65×27 (228,150, ~217%),
- 135×68×28 (257,040, ~245%).
These corrected versions keep the volumes similar but align more closely with the original shape.
The images below refer to the sizings of elevator shaft and comparison
november (IAE 2955)
*whistles
did i miss something?
regardless of my math skill, the colour distorstion mixed with viewing angles made this hell
i am more than certian there is something off with my calculations here
especially given i can only give a range
holy s
Dude are u ok ?
Bro is the goat
Bro grinded
na im fine i just have spare time someetimes :)
I hope he didn't lost his mind and go crazy
and get bored
Well you must be bored a lot thats for sure
the opposite, i was sat in my room and was like. "yo i can definatley calculate something based off this image right?"
So you expect 120 nice
its quite hard to confidently say
It would be very nice man...
120×60×25
130×65×27
135×68×28
these are my three numbers
that i think that are most likley
although unlikley to be the last one
if your height is correct then scaling it to 120+ makes sense it would look funny otherwise like those
yeah, if you have the time pls do read through some of it or at least the final stuff as it explains why i chose those heights
No problem, im glad your sharing instead of steling :)
Come back here tomorrow and ill probaly do a more detailed review to try get a final number
Lmao yeah ur right some people does that
Looking forward for it ngl
Im very curious about the size
of the perseus
100 is not enough
We know bridge is wider
I did a simmilar thing back in the day for a diff game, had my work simmilar style to this stolen and thrown on social media for free follows
So expecting to grow a bit
that is what sparked my thoughts aswell lol
:/
Maybe open a youtube channel idk
if u love talking about those kind of stuff
na im not after any clout
People like us loves to watch
and i do this kind of stuff wayyy to infrequently
and i know reddit and other communites would eat me alive for calculation errors ect
mabye ill make a video sometime this month on the topic, or just compile all of this intoa single post
Reddit lol
Dude ur just speculating ur guessing it
F them
You could post size speculation and someone will tell you that you're not a Dev and it doesn't matter
Like fuck u too random person
its a fair point, i think i have an entire free weekend on the 20th or something so mabye ill turn this into a video then
IDC if Perseus grew, because it's such a well consolidated ship interior wise
not sure about the format though
But bigger is more area to get hit
that is also another topic i want to touch on, i feel like we have gained an extra room or two since OC
I think we did too
if they scale sheilds with it then it shouldnt matter too much
and hull hp etc
that would be fair actually, meaning a 120x60x25 persues would have 180k meters cubed
so thats around 1440k hp
(1.440 million hull hp)
I did cross reference the old model. I don't think it grew width wise, not on the front nose area atleast
Ofc bridge got chunkier and more refined
on the larger end of the spectrum, a 135x68x28 perseus has 257,040 meters cubed, so then we would be looking at 2,056,320 hull hp
Yo
40 million hp
FUCK IT

what how large would she need to be to have 4m hp??
@humble anvil now do this where on the sign there is the perseus
Yeah Ravit I want to
30m height yikes. I concur very afraid perseus is going to increase in size after seeing that massive shaft
dont worry math is fine just read and enjoy pure copium + speculation
Personally I don't think it grew in height. If it did barely any
But I'm just a little guy
30m is my max, my best guess is 27. will update yall tmrw
drake dumpster
I'm daddy's little piggy
you see the ratios, i dont think CIG would be willing to mess around with those as it would piss off community
well since its still from the old metric system because old concept? and look what happend to apollo
very afraid
as i have speculated, shaft appears to be definatley too large for the 100m OC
I have feared this
please do read some or the part of my mini essay then it should explain everything including why i could be wrong
Someday, a ptu will go up, and someone will notice a Perseus in the asop. It probably won't even be in the notes
I'm watching the Perseus commlink like a hawk
You guys will know as soon as I see any movement
It'll be like, an avocado only thing in A wave 5 ptu
respectfully, and i do mean this. Fuck you if you think that it is that unimportant :(
perseus deserves entire IAE to itself
fuck the paladin
fuck these new concepts
No no no. It's so important and vhypev that they will just sneak it in for fun
Too watch us lose our minds
yeah well I skimmed it again to see if I missed anything but TL;DR: hard to measure
that shit will be stinging afer i touch it up with my size 8s
Perseus commlink before the Apollo and the Apollo was before the paladin but the Apollo is releasing soon
😭
but I can use my eyes no measurements required and see that shaft is huge
Yeah, the viewing angles are shit not to mention the lighting which makes everything wayy to hazy to even bother with actual geometary
like get real here lol
Gonna need Apollo to resuscitate Perseus owners in their bridge for the first time
imagine galaxy owners now lmao
they are crying in the corner
yes but no
i keep ragebaiting my freind who owns the galaxy with this
evdeavor before galaxy
Mu situation xd i have the perseus my buddy has the galaxy
Fine, hell with subtlety, give it the Cutter experience
Make the whole show about it
we need a pic of a man standing next to perseus or any other object that can be used to measure scale
i hope they do an idris
we'll get some soon i guess
ffs CIG just show us more pictures of the exterior already
Idmiss
plop it in the PU and make it a death star type of op
also CIG will see no end of my wrath
if the Geeble my baby up
with those disgusting wires
Still that pic is your Pfp, cute
at worst case earliest we get more info on perseus is shitcon
It's my lockscreen
i think they will tease her again once she passes lod0
wait lemme show u my wallpaper
and thats only a month away hihi
oh god I hope so
I have that one for my 2 computers xd
I had the Spirit commercial for my PC wallpaper for a long while
anyway as you can see by my wallpaper it is a tad late and i have work
so i will do work and grind the shit out of this tomorrow
PersEUs
in the meantime please ask your fellow moderators to give me some sort of special role and ill straight up write a thesis on the whole thing
You did it for free already
no but it will be better
trust this is like 1% of my power
just kidding i would never ask for anything i return, ill think of some stuff tonight and write it all up in my free time tomorrow
for the moment just enjoy what ive done (sorry it aint much) and ping me if i said anything silly
ill add to this in the morning probs
DR?
We'll be hitting people with a floppy fish every time
dmg reduction ok
Damage reduction
but I don't think thats going to ever happen
Ballistics have some of the most mediocre time to kills in comparison to lasers
the balance is armor lol
Yes when every ship in the game doesn't have 50%+15% damage reduction from shields
And they make ballistics cost something
That's the balance
and the limited ammo
A non military civilian ship shouldn't be flying into a death ball of ai. But understandable that there's not a lot of good ships that match that description
All light fighters lol
If we didn't have DR, ai cutty blacks would eat us alive
Sneak peek is an rsi bridge with multiple chairs...
RSI apollo pilot controls
Probably Zeus variant yes
ngl, elevators pmo
i wish we could have staircases
ik they aren't spacially efficient but like damn i hate elevators
or wish they were way faster in a large combat vessel
now that this big medical shit is done outta the way they can focus on the real bread winner
they
they're putting the contracts under "guilds"
like the citizencon thing from year or so ago
terrapin medical is still only 1 t2 lol
cig typo
maybe for 4.3.2 but its in the datamine
so assume it will be like: Contracts : Mercenary Guild : Foxwell : all the foxwell missions
they gave morohozov all their respective names
alot unnamed
but 4.3.2 they fixed
damn
needs a backpack
low key thinking we're going to get red black / yellow black / green black / cobalt khaki / silver scorched red . Perseus paints
aint no way olympia paint for spirit is going for 100$
what i thought
weird ahh people
(talking to myself... help)


I’m gunna borrow one if that’s okay :)
Always, that is why I make them in the first place
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@pine quiver can you give me a hand with something mod mail aint working
Is it just me or are yall annoying ykur friends with the perseus hype aswell? Legit not a single day goes by where i talk about it and my friends want to murder me by now it just gets worse the closer we get to IAE 😂 the Perseus was my first ship pledged (even before i got my starter back in thr day)
Yes
I just wanna have it and hold it 🥹

Free is free

That does look like its animated armor
i dont like it either
Pay to loose armor
Just like the led lights on the other one
What is up with the ballistic dmg nerf in 4.3.1
what
im not seeing any nerf
4.3.1 PTU Massive changes physical armor damage reduction & shield penetration
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According to my sources CIG wanted to reduce armor physical damage reduction to 40%, not increase it to 60%. This will get fixed in the next PTU build.
My guess: CIG doesn't understand how their own numbers work. Yogi made the exact same mistake on Spectrum a while ago.
Would 40% balance it with Lasers in terms of dps at least? I dont think so
no its still bad
I think ballistics only have 20% more dmg no?
not neccessarily
repeatedly under perform in comparison to lasers
even the panthers can kill a ship faster than the current ballistics
"shield penetration" imma watch this video by Camural real qick
30% on shields
i thought it was 15
jesus christ
but they made shields 20%
ballistics are less efficient on bigger shielded ships
someone said they need apollo to survive the 2 week refund window 
So thats why the heavy t1 and t2 buff? 
they gotta do something stupid to make Apollo look good
i see they jumping the gun a little with ballistics damage i geuss finny make the apollo seem tankier
then after it releases they'll nerf it so perseus does more damage
And perseus three month after release "we decided to downsize the s8 back to s7"
CIG:
killing the perseus
because Gladius and Idris pilots complained
i'll sell off my assets if they do something really dumb
I dont even think the gladius
More like polaris and idris people
Because they get fumbled in their solo caps
really dumb.. like Downsizing the released guns, making the Perseus have equivalent dps as the fkn Ares but let Idris run free with its overtunned piece of shit cannon
i will be beyond pissed and prob drop the game at that point
if they do that ill write 10000 support tickets

also how big do you like your walls?
i'd ask google gemini to write me a very long winded argument
it will be in here again
jus let me copy and paste it as its too big to put in 1 message
even w nitro limit
so i spent some store credit to try out the new vulkan update
also got that nice undersuit and helmet

DISCLAIMER:
Nearly Everything in this document is based around speculation and personal research. None of this should be taken as facts, and I do not expect people to be crying over the fact its size didnt increase or that i am wrong when IAE comes around. It is important to understand that while I try my best to be as reasonable and accurate as possible, nothing here is confirmed or denied, nor should anything in here be taken at face value.
Here is a completed write up of my estimations and speculations regarding the Perseus' Size increase:
I have split this into a few sections to make reading a tad bit easier:
1. Elevator Sidings
2. Maintaining Original Ratios and scale
3. Could we get more rooms?
4.Comparing increase to other ships
5. A more detailed overview/ TDLR;
1. Elevator Sizings:
(4x2)+(2.5x3)= 15.50m (High range)
(4x0.75)+((3x0.75)x4)+(2x0.75)= 13.50m (Low range)
My best guess= 14m
If the interior elevator measures about 14 m, then we can assume roughly 3 m should be set aside for the bridge and its roof, since the elevator sits just beneath it in the Whitebox layout. On top of that, we’d need around 4 m to account for the engine spikes and the turret (the “spikes” being those pointed extensions—I can come up with a better name for them). Add another 2 m for the thick bottom armour, and finally about 5 m more for the engines located beneath everything.
TDLR: Expect height of anywhere between 25-30m
My final guess for height is 28m, so smaller than i had anticipated but a bit larger than the 27m guess you had, good guess (assuming this is somewhat accurate info i have created).
Expect any size in the following range to be true
Max: 135x65x30
Min:120x55x25
My personal Expectation after reviewing potential elevator height : 130x60x28
2. Ratios, Volume and other sizing:
Due to the nature of the Perseus, and considering how CIG will want to maintain its scale ratio throughout concept, as its sleek design and shape was a main selling point for the ship. Due to this i have created a section regarding more likely sizings when looking into ratios
Original ratio: 1 : 0.50 : 0.21 (100x50x21)
Max: 1 : 0.48 : 0.22 (135x65x30) (closest to original, just a little wider/taller)
Min: 1 : 0.46 : 0.21 (120x55x25) (slimmer width, same thickness)
Expectation: 1 : 0.46 : 0.22 (130x60x28) (slimmer width, slightly thicker)
The original volume is 105,000 meters³.
Compared to this, the Max size (135×65×30) is 263,250 (about 251% of the original),
The Min (120×55×25) is 165,000 (157%),
The Expectation (130×60×28) is 218,400 (208%).
To keep proportions closer to the original 100:50:21 ratio, the sizes could be adjusted to:
- Minimum: 120×60×25 (180,000, ~171%),
- Expected: 130×65×27 (228,150, ~217%),
- Maximum: 135×68×28 (257,040, ~245%).
These corrected versions keep the volumes similar but align more closely with the original shape.
3. What extra rooms could we see?
If we look at the original concept, there are not many rooms to add, IF they stick with their plans of a lack of Armoury and Medical Facilities.
I personally do believe the following:
- The Perseus will NOT receive On board Medical Facilities
- The expansion of rooms to include an armoury is very much possible
When looking at the original concept images, there are 3-4 rooms i would personally expect to expand according to the rest of the ship
- Cargo Bay
- Captains Quarters & Habitation
- Engineering Suite
- Component Access
Unfortunately since we have no updated images of the Perseus' Interior, this is pure speculation and i cannot provide any evidence apart from estimated size increase to support these claims.
4. Comparing Size increase to Others
There is one main ship that the Perseus should be compared to in terms of size increase, considering that it shares many assets with it, That ship being the Polaris.
The Polaris was originaly concepted at 155m, but grew to 166 meters after its concept was completed and it was released in November of last year. The 11 meter difference is not much, however there is a lot to look at below the surface of this concept.
Firstly the Polaris' concept changed by an incredible amount from OC, with the Nose turret originally being concepted as "Automated" and many of the rooms were changed, removed entirely or reduced in size to allow for the addition of a larger cargo bay and more importantly two new rooms. A Brig and a medical facility.
For reference: if we look at the Polaris' 7.1% gain. If applied to 100m (the Persues' Original Concept length), it becomes about 107.1m.
Warning: The information in the below paragraph is taken from sources that have calculated the estimated Length of the apollo from its new exterior images
Another ship worth looking at is the Apollo series, these were originally concepted at 43m long and 30m wide, and have grown to approximately 66 meters long and 42 meters wide. The Length grew by about 53.5% while the Width grew by only 40%.
If we apply these numbers to the Perseus, it becomes quite silly since the Perseus would have to scale up to about 153.5 × 70 to maintain similarity to the apollo series.
Unfortunately i cant conclude much from this info, but it is very interesting and important to note when looking at how likely it is for larger sized upscaling.
**5. The final conclusion/TDLR;
**
I strongly belive that the perseus will fall in the following sizes. However my expectations are to be taken with some extreme salt
The Expected/Evidecned range:
125 x 62.5 x 26.25 - 128 x 64 x 26.88
I wont touch up on this as i think it is explained well in here, however i will give reasoning and explantion for my personal expectation.
My personal belif lies on this number below:
127x63x26.5
There are 2 reasons for this:
-
CIG: CIG has stated that they aim not to upscale ships, and one of the main selling points of this ship was its small crew capacity and size for its firepower, meaning that any extreme sizing increases could cause a large amount of discontent among the community.
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The Height Dilema and Ratio: I have tried to be as accurate with the height, but after re-doing some maths which i wont bore anyone with I found myself a lot more coumfortable with the height sticking on the smaller end of sizing. The ratio of my person belief is nealy 100% accurate in comparison to the original, with “My personal Expecation” having the following ratio: 1 : 0.496 : 0.209
Final Note: Please just enjoy your perseus ( I think ill be naming mine the UEES Artemis 🙂)
Enjoy :)
(Apologies, you might recoginise section 1&2 from my previous messages) not much has changed about them
Also i might make a youtube video on this 
If we can name Perseus on launch.. I'll be giving mine the : "RSI Aurora" treatment
"oh its an Auror LN"
"NO THATS NOT AN AURORA
lmfao
Drake Herald
A size increase of that much would explain the s8 and 4x pdc rumors.
It would, and i hope they are true :)
Agreed, I also agree with the addition of an armory it’s something I’ve always should have been added for this ship
Also some form of medical facilities, maybe not a med bed, but as it was a patrol boat, it should have a way to take care of any injured crew. Seeing how it existed before med beds (regen) did, and it was usually on its own.
Perseus would rarely be alone when in service, especially in deep space, it is a fleet defence ship
Although yes, i do belive we should get some way to heal on the ship, which is mainly the reason i want CIG to remove respawning from t3 beds to allow this. However with medical update this seems increasingly unlikley
Yes in combat it wouldnt be alone, however it was also responsible for patrolling shipping lanes and durring those times it wasn’t with a fleet. Later on the Idris took over this role then the Polaris.
If Perseus scaled up to about 130Meters in length, it would still be a better ship than the Polaris thats for sure
as what
what's the ratio?
playable area wise
not filled with useless crap
The main advantage the Perseus had was size a speed on the Polaris
I dont want the Perseus to increase in size... tbh
lemme send this over to you
It’s now an easier target which is why they probably upgunned it
but ofc imma eat whatever slop CIG gives me
Id like a small increase and think is inevitable considering 100m was tiny
I always though it would increase to to match the HH
i think the direction of the game has changed a little since 5 years ago
and now there's the idris and polaris in the game ... so the s7 are fine but they're not going to sell
especially with the over inflated Hull points those ships have now
but honestly their volume to hp ratio aint even that bad
its just every other ship has like fucking... 2 hp per meter vs their 6 or 8
no you will eventually, just might take ya a couple years
I will have forgor about that Post within 20 min
dude there's some good stuff in there its free content
"Wdym i have to shoot thos idris for 10 min straight?"
CIG wants capital ship battles to take a while
i wouldnt be against Capital ships being in a league of their own they basically are now but man...
yah know when and if the next thing slightly below it is 6 football fields away in terms of survability
like *whistles
They just need more reasons to fight rather than boredom
Which is fair, but in the current actual tech Demo Environment
its just pain because its nothing but a bullet sponge
Or at least large ship PVE missions
And as you said yourself there is 0 reason to spent that time to kill a cap in tje first place
Zero gain from it unless youre protecting something like hathor
yup
cargo

Never seen a idris or polaris having worth cargo stealing
Except for the current event but even there its now useless
ive seen one w 280m
one really werid comoddity
Extremely rare
true
hmmmmmmmmmm

but also org v org and controlling areas would be my main reason
coughs in bengal
im curious if the red contract polaris has anything of value ravit
I wouldn’t hold your breath on that
3 scu of slam

canon as big as the polaris lol
yarp
12 billion hull hp
same size as the goddam bengal
#️⃣ f*ck the vandull
Also any thoughts about how many "parts" the Perseus will have? Like the engines, bridge section back hull, front hull?
yes yes yes
i do
in both ways
nose, body, tail. ENGINES BLIPS, 2 wing blips
components and rooms
wonder if the wings have a 'Destroyed' version
Top floor: Bridge, Engineering, Component access?
Middle floor: Habitation for crew, Captains quaters and habitation, Mess hall, Torpeedo room, Turret Access, (Medical facility on the low chance we get one)
bottom Floor: Armoury, more component access, cargo room
that wasn't the question we know what rooms the perseus has xd
I was asking for the damage model
Aka the stuff that turns red on the HUD if you shoot different parts of a ship
nvm lemme re-write this
Well my current bet would be :
Engine connecter, 4 Engine Parts, Main Body, Bridge Section, Front Body (maybe the two wings on the side additionally)
Bridge/top floor split into two parts
4 Diffrent damage points (1 for each engine ) (image)
Main engine connector/body
Front body, Middle hull, rear body
thats for me
they could fit another turret on the back
another one of them fancy dual s3 automated gatlings !!!
if anything they need an extra at the front
both of them can face backwards well
but only the top can point forwards
Hmm pretty much spot on I think
Although I belive there will definitely be a split for hull and bridge
Ah mb lol
i would love each barrel of the s8 to be seperate destructubales
technically 6 since surely the wings on each side of the bridge will be different parts
they are so far i know
most likley
I mean they are on any other ship too
why wouldn't it be the case then on perseus too
you think so?
as far as im concrned they still just use the turret hp system
you can shoot of singular weapons of turrets
just never happens since they are likely the hardest to hit target of an entire ship xD
what theme though?
ahh makes sense

lmfao
if that paint (originally its red black, i just recoloured it myself) would be available for perseus
instant buy
not even a hard paint to make very surely
I mean its just grey with contrast/accent lines in a brighter color
and a bit black for engines and wings
unfortunately my artistic skills are very limited i have realised :/
No really?
I asume you use Microsoftpaint? 
god damn
*chatgpt cooked and threw
where did it throw hold up
the fact it ate half the perseus
bastards
you used chatgpt for it 
I did
nononono you see
its visibly
Just kidding
Oh yeah
there will be a lot
Yep
although my version of this is somehow worse
I wanted it purple

give this man his purple!!!
oooooooh yeahhh
I gonna
if there is no good purple paint
@humble anvil make it happen

@ Dan_3d
New name new me
Beautiful
I am guenuinly stumped on what more i can do
i just really hope we get 3 or 4 size 3 sheilds
sec
Why not just a Capital Shield? 
Put in the back back of the Bridge with Engineering
i wish but CIG will say otherwise
would love that
so much wasted space
filled, but useless
like what the fuck is that a powerplant ? The main part of the ship
thats taking up 40 meters by itself
yeah, i do think it is cool asf though, but definatley too big
that was never really gunna happen tbh
im curious as to what this engineering room is, ive never lingered around much in it
idris im pretty sure doesnt have something as big
yeah its huge, just a big nuclear reactor with a modeled reactor pool that you can swim in
lol I like your names, why are there so many deleted messages from this thread solar? does the edit function not work here?
ummmmm apologies, didnt realise it was an issue
it's not just curious if the thread has the wrong permissions or something
nono all is fine, just some of the messages are a bit too big to edit

like this one
gotcha, carry on. Just making sure we didn't need to fix it
Is Perseus out yet?
sorry to derail the convo 
glad you guys are actually doing some active moderating though, Nice to see some moderater action every now and again :)
no
IAE still right?
yes
but dude yeah its silly... you mean to tell me that S3 Components -
IAE or with alot of hopium, Citizenscon
Perseus got a TBD tag on a commlink and im watching if it changes but
IAE right now
link?
Citcon would be a good surprise
if it starts saying WIP imma go 
Not placing any bets on that though 
its the address bar you're looking at
edit the number to any number higher
the higher the number, the newer the thread
yeah same, get the basic commlink page with a different URL
Well its because first of all its TBD, secondly it always been in production a month behind the Apollo
Apollo was last month gatereview, and releases now
ohhh so basically you can see the next comlinks?
while perseus is now gatereview might release next month at Citizenscon
they are gunna release?
you can get an idea of what they're working on
like theeeee uhhh esperia stinger?
i think they are saving up for IAE unfortunatley for sales booom
STF 
I mean they still have a carrack sized ship for IAE
and 2 other unknown ones
- paladin
yeah its just grabbing the name of the commlink, you cant see the contents tho obv its hidden
but you're able to see the baby boy
beautiful
what i didnt put that much
just small paragraph
?
STF tag is Straight to Flyable
STF usually means Straight To Flyable.
I'm wondering what it means for this Paladin link, since the Paladin is a concept and thus, can't be STF
idk why idris P and Perseus were put beside eachother commlink wise
this was all before the Apollo commlink
paladin varient? 
but Idris P is staging so aint a clue
Would be weird but yeah, maybe
i thought you were saying something in regards to another small message i sent regarding perseus
basically
Dunno what WIP means, that could help taking a more accurate guess
cause i know a few ppl who use STF
prob work in progress
as "i swear to fcking......"
That's a good guess
Perseus page could be done... its just "TBD"
but yeah watching if it changes to WIP or no tag, then she coming
also where did thise whole carrack sizes ship come from?
^
and shes coming
you think they might delay perseus?
no
That's not what's being said here
Apollo is literally coming next patch
Not in 3 months
true
Its mega cope but i think its possible that someone may be trying to push for Perseus at Citcon
i really really hope so
@lone bloom whats the whole thing about carrack sized ship at iae
They don't usually make any big sale at CitCon on the pledge store, I think that'd be a mistake for their funds
while esperia stinger and paladin .. which i find weird for the paladin, that it could even see citcon
it would be better than having what is going to be a very dissapointing cit-con without something to prop it up
maybe it is IAE prep but no IAE prep on commlink ... yet....
[[Stinger]] is the missile boat isn't it ? Vanduul equivalent of the Gladiator kinda
without idris
Yeah that's it
yep
intresting you say gladiator
i would say more simmilar to vanguard
There are some rumors or leaks (?) apparantly that there is at least one unnknown carrack sized ship planned for IAE release
there are also three unnknown ships in greybox
unkown as in never shown before or a ship that we already know of
anyways if this entire room is the difference between Capital and staying sub-capital ... keep it sub capital because this right here... is a piece of shit
well visually its great
Cool for RPers
but has no use
never shown
exactly
I'm not getting the autocomplete when I change the number?
likely anvil ship since there are no sub/caps of anvil
is this a troll? or am I dumb
what number are you changing
not a troll stg
so if you delete the name after the number it doesnt grab it
Did you like, hit enter ?
yeah
take the full exact link what i posted, put it in browser and then change the number and hit enter
i think the /en/ is causing trouble
doesnt grab the title of the commlink
Ahh I was deleting the text after the number when changing the number, now it works
oh not the en
en worked fine for me
yup there it is.. so i just occasionally watch the perseus thread
xdddd
lol
looks like the latest is this oneStaged-Welcome-Back-Pilot-Staging-For-431
can't get anything past that
the latest is uhhhh halloween
20767
it redirects to promotions
so you have to go back and go a step above number
because the promotion page actually errors
hmm I jumped from 40 to 69 and it stuck on that one, seems it has to be done in order to see what actually exists, if jumping to a number that doesn't it keeps the last real one
69 theres nothing so it keeps the last name
that's cool though
yeeee
i saw the esperia stinger comm and was like
aint no leakers say anything about that.. let alone the name mention
felt like a true trailblazer 
WP to you, will share w some freinds and give u credit
me after realsing that TBD means "To be Designed" Instead of "To Be Determined"

(a joke)
yeah they would
I geuss they could TBD to then WIP
lol
and no ones designed it yet to wip
luckily we know it isnt the case
yeah idfk
the idris P being next to the perseus in comm link scares me
and the P is "STAGING"
isnt actually a live link...
WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN CHRIS?!
not really tbh, they did want to have perseus at ILW originally
let me see if i can find that idris thread comm
Idris-P waves at citcon?
no
i think what happen is the idris P comm link next to the perseus was that commlink about the times for idris waves
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
ahh yeah, I'm noticing they aren't in order by release. Just when they started
the most recent is the medical at like 50 and the Perseus is 38. So that makes sense if they took down the Idris-P comm-link once the waves were finished.
it is quite confusing
you could maybe get the pink freelancer if you ask nicely
i dont like the blue either
dont you need like 10k msg for that
Yeah
you can try
Make a Modmail and ask if you could have the Freelancer role 🥺
@proper ledge is that a bad idea
Let me check your stats...

The blue drops off after I think 2 weeks of being in the server and then you'll be white. Youtube subscriber is easy to get and is red.
subscibe to who
and how to link?
or just write 1000 messages 
its 10 thousand
Freelancer you're way off on, it's 10k messages and you're only 8% there. Even I had to earn it.
i had assumed it would be the case



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