Perseus Pals

[lone bloom]

well see what the perseus will get for reloading the torps

since its still a whole floor above the cargo bay

[crystal sleet]

Perseus will be more streamlined and efficient

[lone bloom]

I hope so

just give us two tubes where we can put the torps in

on cargo bay level

like in a submarine

[crystal sleet]

thatd be sick, metal grates where we can see through the floors and coordinate

[humble anvil]

Apollo be like

im hoping they'll give perseus its automated turret at launch

[humble anvil]

oh really? wow

[lone bloom]

soon tm as CCU ship

[humble anvil]

S1 S2 S3? xdd

[lone bloom]

or S3 4 5

[humble anvil]

Perseus Conversion Kit incoming

[humble anvil]

but yes, very good

[lone bloom]

unless wb is 250

[humble anvil]

WHY IS STAR CITIZEN SO QUIET

HOLY FUCK

[raw lichen]

Thats Size 7 Conquerers 🤭
We get size 8s 😏

[lone bloom]

ok good chances the medivac will be 275 lol

huge size increase

[humble anvil]

this is so dumb.

[lone bloom]

lmao

[humble anvil]

huge size increase?

[lone bloom]

used to be zeus size

now its aprox 66 meters

aka like 20+ meter increase

[humble anvil]

oh leaks

[lone bloom]

yeah

used to be 43 meters

[humble anvil]

damn dude

means perseus prob got a big size increase too... i think they were concepted around the same time

if they failed to fit the apollo in original specs

but then again perseus is just cargo room for ursa, and guns

not a fkn medical facility

announced 2018

welp

nice to know perseus gonna get datamined asap

soon as there's a lick of data on it

[lone bloom]

I mean, would require the percy to show up in the files

so even if it gets datamined, probably only like a week or maybe just days prior

[uneven thistle]

From what I've heard it grew around 15-20 meters in length

[humble anvil]

Probably, but plz no

Exceptional for it's size

Hammerhead requires to dock

[lone bloom]

Carrack does not

And is significantly larger

Bet hh was just the testing ship for docking

[humble anvil]

Maybe it's alt n keybind that's triggering docking

I will test

Because it is the docking keybind as well

[lone bloom]

Still dont get why they dont make it optional

Like a option popping up on your mfds if you want to request a Hangar or a docking Port (aslong your ship fits in an Hangar and or is large enough to justify docking)

[humble anvil]

Because Chris hates us

[lone bloom]

And if docking not required then he Loves us?

[humble anvil]

He diddles us every night if he lets Perseus get a hangar

[lone bloom]

I mean i would be fine with docking, feels special, but only fine with it once we get exterior cargo lifts

Without exterior cargo Lifts its shit

[humble anvil]

Look at all these ships that don't require to dock because they don't have a docking port

So I really really hope

It doesn't grow

[lone bloom]

Carrack has one no?

It just doesnt use it

[humble anvil]

😭

I'm a login and diddle

[lone bloom]

Yes it has a docking collar

5 sec of Google lol

Imagine

The liberator having to dock

That would be a shitshow

Would make Parking your own ships and vehicles on it a real challenge

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-pc-cat-reading-workaholics-gif-14796708

[humble anvil]

ooo FPS Turrets

Ironclad ai turrets making its way into fps

[lone bloom]

Ai fps turrets... one step closer to basebuilding

And ai blades

[humble anvil]

fuck

[lone bloom]

Told you

Why is your chat red

[humble anvil]

maybe its just the hammerhead

[lone bloom]

Rn, it is just the hh in that size class lol

[humble anvil]

party leader can set color

[lone bloom]

Carrack does not dock

Reclaimer does not

[humble anvil]

also can change party name

kinda nice tbh

[lone bloom]

The only ships that require you to dock are hull c, 890 hh and polaris

While hh and hull c could technically also use hangars

You know what would be veeeery Bad? If percy is forced to dock like the hh, and your Primary residence is crusader....

Since orison is the only City that also allows docking and spawns ships also docked

[humble anvil]

yup

[lone bloom]

Once again cant wait for basebuild

Avoiding all of that

[humble anvil]

yup

some more JS-500 and TS-2 acquired for the Perseus fleet

[tawny fern]

i accidently reacted to this and i dont know how to unreact lmao

[midnight crypt]

Just react with the same emoji

Removes it

[sage python]

I have a JS-500 i'm about to sell for 4.5m but now that you say that I might keep it

[tawny fern]

oh thanks

[quaint scaffold]

Yall like the ship I made

in NMS

(Please say it looks like perseus I spend 4 hrs on this.)

[crystal sleet]

Aight, thats literally a perfect 1:1 concept to reality

[crystal sleet]

Also whats this

[steel sparrow]

It's fire

anyway to make it pointier?

[quaint scaffold]

No sadly

I could make it pointy but it would be offset by like one block and look stupid ash

So sad

but galaxy next probs

[quaint scaffold]

This is the best I could do.

Might just make it a galaxy honestly.

[steel sparrow]

Is there a 2block wide bridge?

[sage python]

HAHA i was trying to decide between doing this and doing an imperial light cruiser

How much did it cost? i only have like 70m after building a super barebones basic ship

[quaint scaffold]

Suprisingly the interior turned out to be very practical.

[quaint scaffold]

This was done all in creative.

[sage python]

Ah ok

I'm pretty sure decorative parts are fairly cheap i'll look into it

[quaint scaffold]

I’m not sure how much they go for player trading wise.

[sage python]

Yeah idk if that's basic or advanced parts, basic can be bought for units but advanced are traded

[quaint scaffold]

Most are advanced pieces.

Fixed it up a bit and this was the final version.

[sage python]

I also have no idea how NMS works. I got like 6 hours in and some dude at a station gave me ~85 mil lol

That looks awesome

[humble anvil]

The turrets aren't s9???

Wait

IS THAT A SIZE 9 SINGULAR WHICHA MA CALL IT?

[steel sparrow]

uh what?

[humble anvil]

The circle on the front is that a big ol laser

[steel sparrow]

XD

[humble anvil]

Yes S9 Beam laser 🙂 would you take that if it was pilot controlled? Over the two size eights not pilot controlled

👀

Yeet tired of the Copium

[quaint scaffold]

lol I wish but no. They don’t have weapons that big in nms.

[steel sparrow]

I need whatever you are high on

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1409323377990045748/PerseusPraise.gif

[humble anvil]

High on needing a reason to play Star Citizen

After Perseus imma join the simp for Arrastra crew

ES Winning vs vulture

[foggy beacon]

sounds right

[humble anvil]

Polaris full house sweep

Hate to say it but it's the only ship on the list worth anything.

[foggy beacon]

maybe asgard too

[grave canyon]

the fuck

can you make custom ships now in NMS?

[quaint scaffold]

Yea, they just added Corvettes yesterday.

[grave canyon]

holy fkn shit

[quaint scaffold]

Right there with ya lol

[grave canyon]

like ships with interiors and not caps?

thats wild

[quaint scaffold]

More like sub caps. You can make them the size of a small ship or capital ship.

Not like freighter size tho.

[grave canyon]

hot fkn damn

[quaint scaffold]

I made the Javelin the other day. Probably came around to about an 8th or something of the size of the Javelin in SC.

[grave canyon]

holy fuck im gonna have a blast coming back to nms

ive been letting new content stack up for like 2 yrs now

[quaint scaffold]

Yeah very proud of my Perseus. Gonna make an Idris or maybe a Bengal tn.

[grave canyon]

i dare you to do it in normal and not creative

what are the material costs like

[quaint scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-12-emoji12-cat-stare-stare-cat-uhh-gif-9567425571520721039

Hell no

[grave canyon]

i will

[quaint scaffold]

To get the advanced pieces you need to go out and dig for pieces. Then trade three in for a chance to get one of the pieces that you want.

Very grindy

[grave canyon]

hell yea

ill drop another 200 hrs on this game rn

[quaint scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-gambling-gamblecore-slots-addiction-gif-13719756177810728433

[humble anvil]

Because holy s*** grinding for 200 hours just to make a Perseus in another game

[zenith finch]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[humble anvil]

will apollo medivac get a pdc because its 'military' varient?

[midnight crypt]

Same thing saying all fighters should get a pdc since they are military ships

[humble anvil]

well... no... pdc are primarily intended for large and military capital ships

If Apollo actually grows to 66 meters, its a decent size, wonder if it would get 1

66 would put it on the size of a constellation

but then again thats really small, and the TAC doesnt get any

so apollo military version shouldnt get pdc

[uneven thistle]

It won't

They were very clear about which ships would get it or not during SCL

[humble anvil]

Hi Ruben

Could you please enlighten me? We hear alot and its hard to miss or forget stuff

specifically me

im ret

[uneven thistle]

Other than the few rarities like the Phoenix and 890j there will not be any other ships other than large capital military that get the PDC's

[humble anvil]

delicious

thanks buddy

[uneven thistle]

No problem

[humble anvil]

November cant come soon enough

[uneven thistle]

[lone bloom]

Not every fighter is a military ship tho

So far I know only the F7A is a dedicated military stats fighter

[lone bloom]

(and carrack, and reclaimer)

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-me-up-when-september-ends-gif-18645420

[humble anvil]

I can't wait to go

"ahh yes Perseus.... Nice ..."

Then proceed to not grind ERT etc because the missions are boring and there's no point doing them

But atleast I'll my Perseus

Maybe they'll release Patrol Mission but with friendly ai and stuff

Or return xenothreat for iae which I'm sure they will

I need a meme that says "it's been 1 minute since the Persy has been mentioned... "

[lone bloom]

Xenothreat would go hard with percy

[humble anvil]

Get in my Persy Ravit. You have to wait for crusader day anyways

[lone bloom]

I know you

you won't wanna fly either way

[humble anvil]

I will fly it for 5 minutes

[lone bloom]

I mean i won't care if turret or not for the first few times either way

because turret will go brrr

unlike most others

[humble anvil]

It will be good, no doubt

Damnit dude if Wikelo wasn't shit, and it'd be worth doing fox well again....

But it seems that fox well also is scuffed to the moon and back.... 30 Merc missions half don't work and I don't think it populated correctly

[lone bloom]

Wait, you expected missions to work as Intendet?

[humble anvil]

🥺

Yeah ....

[humble anvil]

Google Gemini thinks Perseus will have a Total HP of : 895,950 HP or 1,095,000 HP

👍 But it also thinks it should have 3 Million HP or Even more HP than Polaris due to its "Heavily Armored" Status, wherest a Polaris is a "Run and Gun, Lightly Armored, Torp Boat, Command Ship"

What will CIG do? Under Deliver because of an undervalued and old ship HH holds it back. Or balances for the now and future? W

Google Gemini also believes due to HP to Volume Ratio ; Agrees that HH it's in need of buffs.

true meme

[humble anvil]

yoink

[azure fulcrum]

Any guesses about percius speeds?

[lone bloom]

thats something i talked alot with rustle about yesterday lmao

CIG rn in a very shitty spot

Would have to switch HH with Tac in terms of speed and mobility, increase both by 10m/s likely, so they can squeeze the Perseus in there (aka where the Tac is sitting rn)

[azure fulcrum]

Tac is 150ms?

Scm

[lone bloom]

I think yes

Polaris is 145 or 140

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah it makes no sense for it to be LESS armored than polaris AND slower

Less mass smaller dimensions

I'm pretty optimistic

[steel sparrow]

6 engines vs 4 :/

[lone bloom]

166 meters vs 100-115

[azure fulcrum]

Doesnt matter ironclad has 12 engines

Its not faster

[lone bloom]

mass and size are a huge indicator usually how fast a ship should be

compared to others

and percy will prob have 30-40% less mass than the polaris

[steel sparrow]

wait untill percy grows by 60 meters

[lone bloom]

then it would also get 2 more turrets

wouldn't be mad about that

[azure fulcrum]

Perseus is very thin if you account for surface area its easilly half that of polaris

[lone bloom]

and even then it would be still 6 meters smaller

xD

[steel sparrow]

take a minute to acclerate to top speed XOX

do we want another turret or a hanger

[azure fulcrum]

Turret lol

[lone bloom]

I mean brother

anyone who is saying it is slower than a polaris

ragebait

its just barely bigger than the hangar and engineers bay

[azure fulcrum]

And people say were huffing copium

[lone bloom]

the only people that are huffing copium are those that think the polaris is a all rounder killer and hauler

they just want "More expensive ship = better at everything"

[azure fulcrum]

Also look at the size of the engines lets get real here

[lone bloom]

i mean sure a polaris is prob better in killing a idris

yeah engines are almost kinda huge

for a ship that size

i mean they are almost as huge as the main engines of polaris

[azure fulcrum]

Close to polaris sized

[lone bloom]

if you look from that

besides length

I think polaris is like double the size?

in m3

[azure fulcrum]

At least

[steel sparrow]

LOOKS AT CONNIE*

[lone bloom]

and connie is also fast for its size

bespite being EXTREMELY overgunned

and also having alot of hull HP

i mean it only has 100K less than the HH

which is more than double if not tripple the size of the connie

[azure fulcrum]

Lmao

[steel sparrow]

didn't connie get nerfed recently?

[lone bloom]

no?

[azure fulcrum]

Connies been one of the best ships since forever its RSI favouritism at play

[lone bloom]

i mean give the HH a huge HP buff

and connie again down to S4 pilot guns

and it would be balanced

[azure fulcrum]

Or rather chris roberts favourite ship lol

[lone bloom]

As I said to rustle yesterday

HH would need to sit at 400-500K HP to be "valiable" in terms of hull HP

and perseus 700+K

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah especially the taurus

[lone bloom]

brother

all of them

except andromeda

dromeda is the only version of all of them where i would accept the reason why the S5s

[azure fulcrum]

YeH

[steel sparrow]

and down the shield to 4 S2 XD

[lone bloom]

i mean the shields are fair

just not the guns and hull hp

[steel sparrow]

HH and Percy better get 3 S3 to make it "fair"

[lone bloom]

they should

A2 as 3 too

and is smaller

[azure fulcrum]

Yeah bs

[lone bloom]

but dunno rn if sub caps became their balance pass already

I think not?

except for tac and max

[humble anvil]

i think perseus will get 3 shields.. but with shield changes coming its not going to do anything for it except if one shield goes down down ; killed

the 3rd will come on

[lone bloom]

I mean having 3 is better than having 2

[humble anvil]

rather them push so much armor onto the ship than a 3rd shield

[lone bloom]

especially since it will likely be all military stock B or C

[humble anvil]

If its stock B. owo

[lone bloom]

what has the polaris stock?

B and C no?

[humble anvil]

A

but its capital A yah know, cant remove it

bespoke stats

[lone bloom]

can't remove it yet

[humble anvil]

oh wtf

its CIV A

Industrial and Civ A

[steel sparrow]

lmao

[lone bloom]

lmao

Well don't like the polaris either way so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1409323377990045748/PerseusPraise.gif

Think also Perseus is the largest 'combat' focused ship most players should go for rn

Simply because of the very manageable crew size

for everything larger(yet) you need a huge amount of crew to make it valuable for fighting

[lone bloom]

only thing I could see being valuable for the average player (i hate to say it) is maybe the kraken but only if you want to combine Salvage and combat PVE missions

because of the huge cargo amount, still having a dual S8 (maybe S9) turret and place for a fortune/vulture or soontm medium salvager

but don't think that would be worth getting a huge cap for that methode xD

[humble anvil]

hell nah

Galaxy Salvage module go brrr

[lone bloom]

if there will be a salvage module

[humble anvil]

I'm slowly poking fox well missions

Get red tier ambush missions if they even exist anymore

For Perseus

[steel sparrow]

they should prob add random fleet battle event for those who want to experience "fleet battles"

[timid adder]

Ngl that would be great in AC

[lone bloom]

Or how bout them giving us fleet battle missions

The tech is already there, make it a "kill all hostiles" and its like a idris with multiple hammerheads and fighters

Add a few fighters and maybe 3 hammerheads as friendly in that dedicated area and done

[lone bloom]

Payment 2 million

[uneven thistle]

I don't need three hammerheads, I'm ramming all the cap ships in the first minute and get that 2 mil

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-robot-continue-surprise-behavior-gif-17925560

[uneven thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-perseus-hammerhead-ram-gif-17374513556486374363

Intended gameplay

[lone bloom]

Not*

[uneven thistle]

They show it, we do it

[humble anvil]

It'll be possible but don't think to that extent unless the Perseus is twice as heavy

[uneven thistle]

Oh you non-believer, I thought this was a house of worship?

[humble anvil]

I just said it'll be possible lol

I reckon the Perseus will have twice as much weight

And we'll legitimately be able to face plant a hammerhead into the dirt

Especially since as well. It has no hp

The pointy bit on the Perseus I bet will cause collision issues and delete stuff indirectly

But our turret is in danger 😭 hopefully it hangs on

[humble anvil]

Would be good for salvage too

[lone bloom]

Cig: "nop"

[humble anvil]

We're going to do a few red patrols and get the Polaris mission if it still exists. We also have Gilly's thing which is a Polaris

If it is still around for iae

Right before is a hammerhead so we can see how fast we'll delete one

Will probably put alt in lower turret lol

Maybe just grab some random person to turret

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/3take-it-or-leave-it-three-take-it-or-leave-it-sbs-patrick-gif-15037514

I bet a npc hammerhead wont survive longer than 15 sec

With both turrets 10 sec

[humble anvil]

Maybe even faster because that's so much damage coming down range 10k per gun

[lone bloom]

Considering how fast the idris s7 can shoot down polaris engines which have 30k+ hp

[humble anvil]

I gotta look at a video

[lone bloom]

Hh dead before it can even start shooting

Outranged

Imagine how fast you can Grind money and basebuild Material or slam, eggs, and quantianium

New pve meta i bet

Can kill hh very easy unlike a dromeda, more cargo space, and is way more reliable than a eclipse and alot more survivability

[humble anvil]

7800 alpha per gun, my b

10k is if it was S9 xdd

[lone bloom]

I mean thats still 15.6k dps per turret

Would that mean

[humble anvil]

If they make the fire rate 25

[lone bloom]

A polaris engine is 4 shoot?

Aka two burst?

[humble anvil]

If they make the fire rate 25, it should have an alpha of 10k

A big chonker cannon

[lone bloom]

Polaris and idris in for a hard time

[humble anvil]

Mhm

[lone bloom]

"Those engines are mine now"

[humble anvil]

Because if it's 50 it's going... Chonk..chonk..chonk..chonk.. because of alt fire

[lone bloom]

And that 2x

[humble anvil]

*whistles

They're in danger

[lone bloom]

And still ignoring the torpedos

[humble anvil]

Perseus looking at cap engines like it's a fruit gusher, or a gummy snack

[lone bloom]

S5s can still be shoot at point blank range

[humble anvil]

Hey

The S3 remote turrets that might be bladed by default...

What if it has PDT aiming and not PDC

PDC as well* buttttt

Little turret also chewing around

What if the guns on the turret are Gatling PDT

🤑

[humble anvil]

Oh that's fucked

They're fucked

[lone bloom]

Just to Show a polaris what it lost along the way

[humble anvil]

Still need 1.5s of travel time

Wait

That's to prime them,

Half a second to ignite

Omg

IT'S DO ABLE

IDRIS ASS IS GLASS WITH 20 TORPS

[lone bloom]

Uh i think that only applies to larger torps

S5 torps are instantly armed

[humble anvil]

S5 not the most damage but

[lone bloom]

And also being able to reload them aswell

[humble anvil]

It'll be something

You can lock on engines 50 meters away

Need to figure that out how to do it effectively

Because I find that menu of targeting to be ass

[lone bloom]

Wait, torps lock on sub Systems?

[humble anvil]

I think they do

I think you can

I swear I've seen it done

[lone bloom]

Why target engines then

Just go straight for the Reactor

(Once engineering is there)

Why only immobilize it if you can also fully make it shut down

[humble anvil]

Ai lied to me

https://youtu.be/dEg2lDJGle4?si=smnAzwtoRT2ciFfa

There we go

Gotta look at that on MFD xdd

[humble anvil]

@lone bloom with the new MFD's its hard to see

if you go into sub target mode and press R

like if you aim at the part and press R

it will target that part

MFD doesnt say what you're targeting but this little green highlight outside of sub targeting mode

[lone bloom]

Ah, yes, cig way of giving you valuable informations in a fight

Guess we are still 10 years away from the promised battlefield map you are supposed to be able to display on bengal javelin and polaris

Aka the tactical map or however they named it

[humble anvil]

Fun fact: The Perseus can disable most guns and turrets with 1 shot.

Polaris Turret is : 15,000 HP , and each Gun has : 5,600 HP

Idris cannon is 727,000 HP , and Turret is 15,000 HP and 6,700 HP

[lone bloom]

alot of copium in there xd

[humble anvil]

i posted some shit on reddit about Perseus needing to be tanky and heavy hitting so it can punch and challenge capital ships without the need to pull another capital ships or 4 additional ships

would you believe me if i said, downvoted to oblivion?

[lone bloom]

yes

[humble anvil]

immediately players went into the notion i mean to kill the idris

I said puncher and challenge capital ships. and thanked CIG for giving small crews the power to challenge these ships

idk man

@lone bloomgimme your honest thoughts about this message. Is it copium? am i wrong? or am i right? What you think

[lone bloom]

I mean its better than most takes in the comments

[humble anvil]

edited the post

its a good read

free content

[lone bloom]

oh god

[lone bloom]

Comments are a lital warfare

[humble anvil]

its on fire

ncie to see im getting some agreeance lol

definitely an uphill battle

(in reality i knew this would cause some fire lol... stepping on toes of capital ship owners is like walking on egg shells)

2 fully crewed perseus

a total of 8 people

gonna fuck up so much shit

unless the ship only gets hammerhead levels of HP

[lone bloom]

i mean just look at shipshowdown

whales winning polaris again for some reason

[humble anvil]

i picked the polaris because it carried my dumb ass in cargo event tbh

otherwise mid ass ship

Asgard i also dont care about

so if i had to pick one over the other just picked polaris

Asgard seems cool but

NOT DORITO

[lone bloom]

picked the asgard because it looks better

[humble anvil]

EW SQUARE ANVIL SHIP

[lone bloom]

i mean it looks similar to a ospray

therefore i like

[humble anvil]

hey, its better than the Gladiator

@lone bloomWEDNESDAY, September 3, 2025

Maintenance window starting from 11:00 UTC
August 2025 PU Monthly Report

mmmmmmmmmm

Monthly Report

yumm yummm

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/we-need-it-now-randy-marsh-south-park-informative-murder-porn-season17ep02-gif-19529653

[humble anvil]

Jump point could have Perseus leaks in it

[tepid wasp]

This post?

[humble anvil]

I deleted it because i was annoyed that I had to be so literal with everything i said with context to everything i was saying. It was a mess.

but yes that one

and some people straight up got shit so wrong and i told myself its not worth it because end of the day no one cares

its free content but fuck it

CIG will release perseus however they want to, no matter how much bitching or advice players give

unless its a literal shit storm

If Perseus releases in a shit spot, i will ask myself the question: Is it worth it? That Capitals have an Volume to HP ratio over everything else that it basically dwarfs the closest thing to it.

[tawny fern]

Reddit

Lol

A lot of people on reddit are dumb, dont take their opinions seriously

[lone bloom]

"wdym perseus was never meant to kill capitals"

Meanwhile Inferno got advertised as capital killer with a single S7

[humble anvil]

tbf it will kill capitals

xdddd

but labeled as sub capital killer

but ye its that shit just gave me a headache

had to nope outta there

used words such as "Challenge" or "Puncher" of capitals... never once used the words "kill" untill i had to post edit my stuff but some how peeps still think i want perseus to be able to 1:1 an Idris

like jesus christ u monkey, i dont want to be like the hammerhead and other forgotten sub caps with no hull hp and shit stats that cant be near a capital for more than 10 seconds

[lone bloom]

i mean it will 1v1 most caps

https://tenor.com/view/thats-just-what-it-is-blvd-mel-stay-dangerous-song-its-how-it-is-cant-change-that-gif-21042533

[humble anvil]

yes. yes it will. this is a sandbox activity so it will

[lone bloom]

i mean

[humble anvil]

can swing either way depending on angle

[lone bloom]

even a fucking connie can

[humble anvil]

absolutely

[lone bloom]

why should a connie or ares can

but perseus not xD

[humble anvil]

Pathetic

Yah know but yeah hopefully Perseus is the top of line sub cap thats right below the polaris in terms of price so the ships that come after the Perseus can fill the gaps... yah know? Maybe long range artillery or some other varient

but if its equivalent price to hammerhead i worry about the future, that a ship will be better than the perseus, and more ridiculous when the perseus is supposed to be super tanky

super tanky, super big damage

so they're going to have something even more heavily armored, and with more bigger damage thats also sub cap and not capital? When Polaris is the smallest capital ship

just eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[uneven thistle]

Monthly report on Wednesday

[humble anvil]

i knooowwwwwww

[uneven thistle]

Think we'll see another sneak peek?

[humble anvil]

Yea

[uneven thistle]

[humble anvil]

oh fuck a duck

i messed up

[lone bloom]

well either another apollo peak (but dunno what there is more to sneakpeak... since they showed everything already lmao)

or Ironclad and Perseus

[humble anvil]

HOLY SHIT

RAVIT

dude

i miss calculated

Perseus legit gonna have 10k Alpha, or 15k Alpha IF fire rate is 50rpm

I oop

I never look at Idris Ballistic gun

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

met someone in game that thinks the perseus will have 12.4k alpha per gun, 1mill hull hp

WE'RE NOT ALONE

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[lone tundra]

sounds about right

[humble anvil]

legit just had a drop party at Seraphim

lmaoooooo

20 dudes all scrounging for the ASD sets

[humble anvil]

Iris. What's your opinion on the Perseus? What do you think it'll be price wise? Hull HP Wise? Do you think it'll be hammerhead level? Where do you want to see it at. What is 'balanced' to you? I ask this because i value your opinion and would like to prod the mind of someone with hundred ships in their hangar.

you've been around alot longer than i and have more of a grasp of where things may lead so sorry if i do use your words as a sense of base' when it comes to my copium ❤️

[lone tundra]

This is off the cuff, haven't theorycrafted much:

$825 price ($25 movement to a Polaris WB to provide a smooth upgrade ramp again) - upper range of estimates

Guns: Outperforms S7 Conquerors (which are admittedly overtuned a bit at 13,500 dps)

Total health points: 750,000 (hammerhead should be adjusted to this too) - allows it to survive more than one S10 railgun shot

[humble anvil]

Cool. ❤️ I respect it

Yah know Google Gemini thinks

750k too

With Hammerhead scaling in mind

Idris guns are indeed busted as fk crazy honestly so Interested in where Perseus will go. Thanks Iris

Google Gemini also thinks Perseus should have 3Mil

[lone tundra]

It's hard to tell where we're going with hp values, some of the newer ships have fallen perfectly in line with where they should be, but so many older ships are awaiting adjustments

[humble anvil]

yeah like Meteor i was honestly thinking it would be more like a guardian contender but turns out its a medium fighter with interdiction scaling only 30k hull

like damn

rip

[humble anvil]

Dont have alot of military ships to really gauge HP especially for sub caps. But we look at guardian MX, and Terrapin that are labeled as "Armored" yah know for a S2 kinda tanky

Apollo might be able to give us a story since its what... Connie sized? especially the medivac with extra armor

its so weird loool Redeemer a gunboat at S4 only 66k

then a little turtle half its size 168k

wtf

dude Terrapin 's Volume to HP Ratio is freaking INSANE

Idris is: 8.82 HP/m³
Terrapin is: 75.09 HP/m³

If we used Terrapin scaling it would put the Perseus at 13.5Million HP

[lone bloom]

casually having to give polaris then 30 mil Hp

and IDris 50

[humble anvil]

Guardian MX has 20.20 HP scaling, double the Idris

its very infuriating as nothing is coherent... Idris is considered heavily armored right?

imma check connie

6.72 HP/m³

Polaris scaling

thats the Andromeda

mothjer fucker doesnt have armor?!?!?!

[midnight crypt]

HP is HP, armour is probably gonna be separate

[lone bloom]

There won't be "HP" anymore if armor is there

(even if armor itsself is kinda HP too but... alot different)

[midnight crypt]

War thunder isn’t hp based but it still has hp on all components. The hp is still gonna be there. Just won’t be able to hard kill

[lone bloom]

SC isn't warthunder tho

They literally said Armor will be a HP pool you have to deplet before you can destroy components

But its very surely a HP pool with extra steps aka damage reduction dependin on the weapon you attack it with

[midnight crypt]

Yeah so a lot like war thunder

[lone bloom]

in warthunder you can pen directly tho

[humble anvil]

Well if we go off Armor values then Perseus gonna be a chunky boy

So hull is disappearing? I'm confused

[lone bloom]

yes and no

[humble anvil]

Need to get rid of armor to hit components to death ship?

[lone bloom]

likely will have to "red" or black out hull (armor) before you can pen the comps

[humble anvil]

Ah

Ballistics cannons ignoring that rule completely

So what you're saying is, ships without armor are fucked

Shields go down that's it

Everything getting torn to shreds

Idk just a bit confused. The ship itself without armor needs something but that's basically flesh... A shot to flesh is bleeding

Internal combustion

Fires(?)

[lone bloom]

well not really

depends on the size of said cannons

[humble anvil]

S8s

[lone bloom]

if a S4 ballistic cannon will try to pen a heavy sub capital armor or capital armor i doubt that won't happen

unless the armor is fully destroyed

ofc S8 gonna pen likely most ships, MAYBE the bengal not

[humble anvil]

Hm

I like this version of Star Citizen better

The future one with Armor

So many ships now have no business being able to take our massive cannon without deleting

[lone bloom]

i mean light fighter will be prob oneshot

the issue is just to hit them xD

[humble anvil]

12.4k alpha per gun

[humble anvil]

Leave it to the ballistic PDC

Lmao

Light fighters that come close gonna be in for a rude awakening

[lone bloom]

yk that light fighters will stay at 2km

and shoot down shields and hull till death

at least in the current version

with armor, i doubt you will have to worry about light fighters since heaviest they can carry is S3

medium fighters might get annoying longterm

[humble anvil]

In this current game version will attempt to chase the mantis but otherwise I'd backspace instead of wasting time

In the future, gonna hopefully be more diplomatic than someone spinning around my rear

Or put a beacon or something up to hopefully have someone come

Maybe the police

[humble anvil]

Yeah lol.

Real curious what cig will do with Armor

Since what? Idris s5s is like bare minimum? S4 do no damage

[lone bloom]

i mean from what they said it sounds pretty simple...

Depending on armor grade you wanna hurt or destroy or pen you need XYZ weapon size

otherwise damage massively reduced, or almost nullified

[humble anvil]

Yeah simple but only for Bengal and Idris mentioned

[lone bloom]

javelin

not idris

[humble anvil]

I'm curious what sub cap heavy would mean yah know

[lone bloom]

it was S5 will do barely damage and S4 will be shrug off no?

at javelin as example

[humble anvil]

Yeah

Polaris Idris Regen shields through small arm fire

[lone bloom]

i mean they surely still have to go deeper with that

like if cannons have a more pen chance than gatlings

[humble anvil]

That's what I heard with Gatling have little pen at all

[lone bloom]

like what will do armor on smaller ships then?

like on the perseus

will it be able to shrug any weapon off?

or to minimize their damage

they didn't specify

[humble anvil]

That's what I'm curious. Probably just minimize everything

[lone bloom]

i mean maybe shrug off S1

maybe even S2

or they literally go "this gun does 5% dmg this gun does 20% this 60% this 100% and above"

[humble anvil]

Mhm

Praise Perseus

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1409323377990045748/PerseusPraise.gif

I mean we should not worry about that

Perseus has the heaviest armor of its class, and heaviest hitting guns in its class

even if it will be bad it won't be as bad as like other ships (see HH)

or generally any other smaller ship, they will all have a harder time in terms of armor

[humble anvil]

They gave guardian MX good scaling

We're in the money

It'll be good

😎🤟

[lone bloom]

aslong it performs still extremely great in PvE won't matter either way

after all spending 98% of the time doing PvE

[humble anvil]

Maybe with how heavily armored the Perseus is alot of these PvE encounters will be less susceptible to stuff randomly breaking lol

"there's a hole in your right wing" *right wing is missing

[lone bloom]

any fighter be like

[humble anvil]

Yeahhh it just it doesn't scream safe to me

These fighters

[lone bloom]

i just want a ship with I like to do VHRT and ERTs

[humble anvil]

Yeah man I feel ya

[lone bloom]

with the SL or Connie its still a struggle and you have to repair like every 1-2 missions

[humble anvil]

Yeah it's not fun

[lone bloom]

Like HRT is kinda 'too' easy with them

while VHRT is already "the fuck i fight now a Carrack escorted by 3 connies?"

[humble anvil]

Xdddddd

Can't wait until ironclad joins the frey

Big beautiful box to shoot

[lone bloom]

1500 scu juicy cargo

[humble anvil]

Oh nom nom

Industry in Auric gonna eat good

[lone bloom]

but its weird

VHRT used to be like

1-2 C2s

and like 1-2 heavy fighter

increased the difficulty alot

[humble anvil]

You know it's nerfed bud .. to move people to other missions

It really is weird

[lone bloom]

feels like it

i mean its not worth doing the struggle knowing you get very similar payment with other missions with almost zero risk

while it feels to me the most riskiest missions should pay the most, meaning, bounty hunting/foxwell (risking your life and ship), FPs bunker (risking your life but still option of medical ship) and very large cargo hauls

especially once they increase claim times/insurance stuff, and Death of a spaceman

[humble anvil]

Heh

Probably the most lucrative tho

Tons of materials can be claimed from bunkers

[lone bloom]

I mean you dont have those risks doing salvage

[humble anvil]

Probably

Yeah lol

[lone bloom]

I mean ofc you can still get pirated by players

But that can happen you at bounties too

I mean they interdict at om points mostly and wont care where your cargo comes from

(If they care at all and dont just go full griefer Mode and are just there for the sake of killing)

[humble anvil]

Police I pray

Idk man anyone interdicting better have a fully crewed Persy or Idris on standby because

[lone bloom]

Wont save you in pyro

[tawny fern]

wow can you imagine a police skin for perseus

[humble anvil]

Olol

[humble anvil]

Weewoo

[lone bloom]

Imagine youre flying perseus with like 2 fighter as escort

And get interdicted

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/pixelbandits-lotr-lord-rings-meat-gif-7398681212587459935

[humble anvil]

Probably turn into: "yeah we don't want no beef"

-turns off QD

-Perseus turret shoots once, clips the Mantis

Fucking explodes

Like an m1 ahbrams in bf6 turret turning

When you're a medic with an ammo box

[lone bloom]

And then people gonna complain

While sitting in a literal glasshouse of a ship

[humble anvil]

Welp

Don't do the crime if you can't do the crime

[lone bloom]

Im just so worried about the ares situation

That people will outcry so much that they get fucked in their 2 Manned or solo idris by a perseus

[humble anvil]

Mhm

[lone bloom]

And that this shouldnt be Happening and isnt fair

[humble anvil]

Mhmmm

They gonna piss of ALOT of players

[lone bloom]

Tbf ares was able to fuck fighters which was not its role

[humble anvil]

If they do that

If they release the Perseus and it's a great ship and next patch they neuter it

Awh hell naww

Big whoop right?

No. This is the Perseus

THE Perseus

This over hyped ship has brewing a fandom that has a cult following. Not just us

ALOTTTTTT of people are looking forward to this ship

Every member in Auric has one basically

[lone bloom]

Tbf i still think the s8 Upgun was just a Marketing thing

[humble anvil]

Absolutely

It could be s8 classified but damage of s7 but that s8 upscale to me sounds like a reidentification of it's role

[lone bloom]

Cap killer

[humble anvil]

A bit

[lone bloom]

Or similar role as ares

Picking out comps

[humble anvil]

1 shot from a Perseus

Takes out any turret, any gun

And any component if it pens

Okay not cap components

2 shots

[lone bloom]

I still think they just want to close the gap of Highly expensive ships and smaller not "that" expensive ones

[humble anvil]

They do

[lone bloom]

So you have something to fight larger ships even while not being part of a org or being a streamer

[humble anvil]

Because right now Idris n Polaris have no real threat. Especially if they're crewed

[lone bloom]

People just got used within one year apparantly so much to caps being practically invincible somehow

I mean they clearly are not, especially not ghost crewed, but against random players that are not even looking for a fight they are

[humble anvil]

Solo pilot of course they're killable lol. We see do many videos of a small group shittibg on solo Polaris and Idris. Obviously lol

Ofc you're going to win the fight, there's no counter play to a Mantis when you're just a solo cap boy

[lone bloom]

I mean we did too

[lone bloom]

3 times in the same Session

[humble anvil]

What did we do?

[lone bloom]

The Session with hathor

You in phoenix

And 3 f7c

[humble anvil]

Against the solo Polaris?

[lone bloom]

Nah

Solo idris M

Crewed idris K

And another idris k

[humble anvil]

I vaguely remember but that was asonizing

[lone bloom]

All three either jumped away or got boarded

Aka one jumped others boarded

[humble anvil]

Pretty sure we had Tempest Idris

I can't remember

But the boys did good shooting open the back

But yeah anyways. Capitals are bullet sponges, sooo much, so much

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-i-know-him-they're-me-obi-wan-obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-gif-15219886167814879581

[humble anvil]

I was mining after some time I didn't know everything

[lone bloom]

Well its either Board or shoot at it for 20 min

[humble anvil]

Ye

Capitals man... Strong but need something to punch them. Yah know an Idris can delete any ship stupid enough to sit still for it

So the Idris should be able to get deleted if it's stupid enough to show it's ass to the Perseus

Yah feel me?

Need an equalizer

Idris fucks other in the ass

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

So what will fuck the Idris in the ass?

Perseus

Used to be Polaris

Oh ....

Oh

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

Perseus is not fucking the Idris in the ass. PSA to all Perseus owners, avoid Idris at all costs

[lone bloom]

So they dont cry too much?

[humble anvil]

Affirmative

Allow 1 month grace period

It's happening day 1 lol. Ain't no stopping 75% of the community from railing the Idris

I sleep. Goodnight

[tepid wasp]

I was actually shocked to see a decently written thread on the Perseus subject; i respect the deletion to preserve sanity

[humble anvil]

Aw thanks.

[humble anvil]

Perseus leaks

[humble anvil]

@grave canyon Yeah sorry bro, its highest levels of cope. Good thing im not the dev doing the stats yah know. Perseus will release how it releases. lots of love tho. Basically just a hangar decoration tbh to wait for the next ship. It really is a deeper problem with the game.. Make it hammerhead levels of HP its irrelevant, make it too durable and its OP. Maybe Capitals were never the goal for Perseus but ask yourself, and i do too; Why upgrade the turrets to S8? If it wasnt meant to kill capitals. S7s are capable enough... but they tune the Idris turret so astronomically big that its like dude wtf...

Really question like wtf is going on

They could right make it S8 but give it alpha lower than the Idris but then again its. Why? Why the fuck isnt like the Idris, or even above the Idris Turret in Damage. They get a S7 Bespoke but yet theres does significantly more ? That'd be weird...

its not the first time, but yeh, bigger problem in star citizen.. I'll be asking myself if i want to actually try to make it to 1.0 if the Perseus releases in a bad spot, and fails at its job. I dont want to see it over step its desired effect but dawg yah cant help players making poor choices. Its a ship to do one thing; kill other ships. 'Not haul cargo, not to be fast, not to interdict anyone in QT. It is quite literally to blow stuff up...

@azure fulcrum i think bro blocked me. idk 😭

offline for my ass

[azure fulcrum]

I thought he was one of us lol

[humble anvil]

Meg's always been middle ground but he is a fan of the Perseus

[azure fulcrum]

really don't get why people get so agitated because we're just suggesting perseus could be a lot more capable then people think it will be or as it was pitched as

[grave canyon]

i didn't block no one bruh im invis

[humble anvil]

we do some megggaaaa theorycrafting cope

[grave canyon]

im not petty like that

[humble anvil]

Awesome. Im happy ❤️ . Thanks. I didnt know

[grave canyon]

u can cope as much as you like and i will cope as much as i like in the end we all coping

[azure fulcrum]

perseus will be whatever CIG wants it to be and CIG changes their mind all the time

we have a general idea of what it is going for but comeone man look at what happened in the past

it's an old ass concept

[grave canyon]

but i will point out thinking percy is idris killer now because of s8 upgrade and it should have 50k dps pre reduction is genuinely concerning copium

[azure fulcrum]

i mean polaris was supposed to be a idris killer

😆

[humble anvil]

its torps got nerfed

perseus cant be an idris killer or its fucked

nerfed to oblivion

[grave canyon]

nah polaris was never meant to be an idris killer in the sense people thought, people assumed so because cig marketing showed it in a way that was never going to be real

[azure fulcrum]

agreed lol

[grave canyon]

it can be, just not in the way that you seem to think

[azure fulcrum]

simply because CIG does whatever the hell it wants and we have no say in the matter

[humble anvil]

i like to think if it can make it to the idris's rear, the idris is coooooooked

outside of that

Perseus aint winning shit

[grave canyon]

an idris will not be able to get head on with a decent perseus crew, and if they want to make perseus into idris killer what they'll do is they'll give it high af alpha, low af fire rate and high projectile velocity guns and lock it into that big sub-cap/cap threat area

[humble anvil]

thats what i think

[azure fulcrum]

yeah simply because the capital HP and shields are insane compared to what perseus will get

even if it has heavy armor

[humble anvil]

yah know persy aint hitting a moving turret, it will be pure luck from any kind of distance other than 800 meters

if they give it railguns

Meg imma come...

railgun conversion kit

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822

[azure fulcrum]

beams and railgun kit pls

[grave canyon]

like 15k alpha on 30 rpm and 1800 velocity will make it so you won't be able to abuse it to kill unintended targets like fighters but you will have surgical precision to kill an idris

or disable at least

[humble anvil]

1800 velocity will kill tiny ships tho

[grave canyon]

not at 30 rpm

[humble anvil]

[grave canyon]

if you get a lucky shot off or if they're in a straight line then yes

but then even with 800m/s those apply still

if they want to make perseus idris killer low projectile speed and high dps isn't the way, the way is high alpha and high projectile speed

[humble anvil]

dont let idris owners catch wind of this

they'll make sure we dont get it

i like what you're putting down

30 rpm would be INSANE

[grave canyon]

either way a perseus will be a threat to the idris the moment you manage to get close while avoiding nose, because it will never be able to get head on with you and you'll be able to get close enough to kill turrets and comps, it just wont be easy to do

[grave canyon]

more would be way too broken with 15k alpha and 1800m/s

[humble anvil]

if a perseus can get close to an idris, the idris is doing something wrong

its the idris fault

it deserves to "eat lead suckerrrr" - "Whats this button do?"

[grave canyon]

or it's an ambush or coordinated distraction

aka, send polaris, have it fire torps at idris and run, while idris is focused on torps, send perseus to sneak close

remember idris has the detectability of a fucking moon and the perseus will be harder to detect than it

[humble anvil]

literally foreshadowing perseus owners and the impending nerf

the button is when you shoot a light fighter a little too hard

[azure fulcrum]

XDD

[grave canyon]

as much as i love the perseus reality is combat ship balancing in this game is weird and cig has a tendency to knee-jerk way too hard, so if perseus releases in a state to absolutely terrorise anything from connies to idrises then it will be sent to the shadow realm, only way it stays as a usable ship for a while is for it to be balanced and locked into its role

[humble anvil]

think the only reason idris avoided nerfy is because well not alot of people have an idris and you cant exactly take away the S10 railgun when it was a design decision 10 years ago

its an oopie they cant easily take away especially now

its always been like that, so they gotta live with it

[azure fulcrum]

IDK what people are expecting from a military heavy gunship... but it's gonna be good at its job of destroying things...

[grave canyon]

i genuinely don't want it to slap an idris that hard because then it will be completely useless in a month and stay that way for years, look at any ship that caused people to cry on release

[grave canyon]

i'm expecting for it to fuck up hammerheads and similar, make capital ships concerned af and sweaty, die to heavy fighters and look cool

[azure fulcrum]

die to heavy fighters hell no

heavy fighters are not in a good place

[grave canyon]

i mean there's no way to nerf an idris aside from take away like one of the main features

[humble anvil]

its really hard and cant be done easily

they'll get fucked by false advertisement

idk im not a lawyer tho

[grave canyon]

the nerf that it needs is systems that make it basically unusable without a crew, like requiring someone to do something to fire beam/railgun like manage power, and cost of wear and tear without things like insurance scamming to get around it

[azure fulcrum]

try and solo a NPC polaris with a heavy fighter good luck or even with a squadron of 3-4

[grave canyon]

a polaris is not a perseus

[azure fulcrum]

lmao

you don't say

[grave canyon]

those s8 turrets and the perseus itself will be a fucking snail vs any heavy fighter

[humble anvil]

in a heavy fighter with those pdcs? im cooked

[azure fulcrum]

perseus will be even worse to fight

[azure fulcrum]

yeah its a joke

[grave canyon]

nah

[azure fulcrum]

heavy fighters are a joke

[grave canyon]

polaris has like 5 anti fighter turrets and 7 pdcs, perseus will only have like 2 anti fighter turrets all smaller than polaris turrets and like 4 pdcs

[azure fulcrum]

"only"

[humble anvil]

i feel like, heavy should be 70-90k acrossed the board. mediums 30-60k
and light fighters 10-30 yah know?

[grave canyon]

it's significantly less protection, anything with ballistics that manage to take them out will just disable your ship easily

[azure fulcrum]

those are 2xs4 remote turrets too

[grave canyon]

yeah, when most of them cannot see you at any given time, yeah, they're not converged in one spot

idk what you want man perseus weakness is fighters

[azure fulcrum]

what are you talking about the perseus turret/pdc coverage is amazing

[grave canyon]

any fighter light medium or heavy will roll in, fuck up your remotes and pdcs and disable you if you're not careful or have escorts

[grave canyon]

brother in christ we're literally clueless about pdc coverage

[azure fulcrum]

that I would agree upon if it were a swarm of light fighters yes

[grave canyon]

there's literally no info about pdc coverage

all we know is remote turret locations if they aren't changed

you're coping with info that doesn't exist

[grave canyon]

that's the remote turret, yes?

where are the pdcs?

[humble anvil]

S3 guns got like 1k hp. a S3 has an alpha of 34, gatling mind you.

[grave canyon]

show them to me please

[humble anvil]

it can do 422 dps. if everything lands

[grave canyon]

the inferno has like 3k dps

[humble anvil]

yeah

[grave canyon]

one half decent burst on your remote turret and it's gone

[humble anvil]

yerp

sounds right

[azure fulcrum]

ok you got me but with the upgraded sizes and amount of PDCs and remote turrets and the shape of the ship it's hard to mess up the coverage

[grave canyon]

what do you do then? your s8 turrets aren't gonna catch it

[azure fulcrum]

I'm assuming the coverage is really great

[humble anvil]

mmmm

[grave canyon]

if let me do some quick napkin math brb

[azure fulcrum]

there is only so many spots where they can mount these

[humble anvil]

information not available yet but the assumption is the addition of those 2x s3 gatlings on the main s8 turret may be possible

if the ares is strafing up and down and staying 2k away

[azure fulcrum]

I said the coverage is amazing because of the size to amount of pdcs/turrets

[humble anvil]

yeah i think the perseus may have a hard time hitting it

[azure fulcrum]

not because I know what the exact placements are 🤷‍♂️

[humble anvil]

but man all it'll take is a stray s8 cannon to actually hit and that thing is fucked

[azure fulcrum]

and the shape of the ship also allows the placement to be excellent

[humble anvil]

one day the algorithim isnt going to be shit either

and tbh ship combat is slowing down in the future apparently no more scm boosting

[azure fulcrum]

there's not much in the way to block the turrets

[azure fulcrum]

whut?

[humble anvil]

but yeah lets back up and think in the current game environment

IF the Ares gets guns on and has support ships. look the perseus is fucked

but if the Ares is by itself, its fucked, its doomed.

[grave canyon]

with attritions on the 2x s3 turret and 2 polaris pdcs you'll have about 1.5k dps, assuming half the pdcs are on top and the remote turret engages the ares too, granted they hit all shots, it can tank with default shields for 7 seconds. all it takes is .3 seconds of the infernos burst to disable the turret and bring pdc dps to 300

[azure fulcrum]

assuming the big ass slow ares doesn't get capped by the S8 turret first

[grave canyon]

mind you this is assuming you're hitting a fighter with a gun that's not good at hitting fighters

[humble anvil]

maybe 4 ares yeah dude the perseus bro going to fold under the pressure, but i aint ever trying to put myself into a scenario where imma lose yah know

[grave canyon]

you won't catch an ares with the s8

[azure fulcrum]

source?

anything to back it up with? you got the S8 stats?

show me

[grave canyon]

you cant catch a half decent ares pilot with the polaris s6

they'll have blind spots

the ares can be a slow fighter but with the FM the perseus is likely to get (that of a heavy fuckn subcap) it will still run circlss around it

[humble anvil]

gonna be real interesting when perseus comes out. i think the bottom turret maybe a little rediculous

idk its rear coverage

[azure fulcrum]

man I can't wait to know more about the turret coverages and placements

[humble anvil]

sec

[grave canyon]

turret coverage won't save you

[azure fulcrum]

what? XD

hahahhaa

perseus is very thin it could broadside with all guns easy

[grave canyon]

i just overestimated 700 dps to 1500 dps and it still takes 7 seconds purely for all that firepower to get shields down on an inferno, which can disable basically all of that dps in .3 seconds

[humble anvil]

idk we might be fine.

[grave canyon]

you're not broadsiding an ares bro

[humble anvil]

look at the back turret

[azure fulcrum]

ahw yeah

[azure fulcrum]

no shit

[grave canyon]

idk how slow you think the ares is but it's way faster than you think

[humble anvil]

looks like sunshine from the rear

[grave canyon]

otherwise you'd realise that you're never gonna catch an ares with an s8