#Perseus Pals
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and adding details just everywhere
so they've already finished the design
After greybox it enters LOD phase (?)
And thats the last one
Aka polishing pretty much
And last state we know of (aka a month ago) the percy was end of Greybox aka gatereview phase, aka about to enter LOD phase
So its just before finish line
but still the only information we, the playerbase, have is just the concept art
we do
We had a leak that it grew 10-15 meters
and confirmed the S7 -> S8 upscale + 4 PDCs
so realistically why do you think it increased 10-15 meters
i would have said because gun
but idk
Almost all ships grow from concept -> release
Because most of the times they made the interior too big
and have to scale the exterior up
ah makes sense
They got better and it doesn't happen as often on newer ships
but the Percy concept is already 5 years old by now
And with the Polaris being finished before the Percy, pretty much setting the meta size for most of the assets in stone, it may have changed here and there some stuff
For example the Torpedo Bay will be very likely fully recycled for the Perseus from the Polaris - since the Polaris used fully the concept artwork from the Perseus for its torpedo bay
you know
i read about the whole redeemer drama
and how the original concept of it
was completely different from what we got in game
but im guessing that was before cig nailed the whole ship building pipeline
if you can consider them even nailing it now
kind of same applies to the polaris - at least for the torpedo room
i actually dont know much about the polaris
and nothing in common with the actual concept
it looks exactly like the perseus concept art
is that why the ship doesnt seem to be very well received
The captains room will be very similar
of both of them
and dunno where he got the infro from but xero said the mess hall will also use mostly if not completely polaris mess hall assets
but since we don't have concept artworks of the entire back side of the perseus we cannot tell for now
i find it hard to believe there'll be that many assets from the polaris copied over to the perseus
(you can see that in the interior view of the percy)
seems like a total copout
They literally said that as reasoning WHY the Polaris is made first
So they can take and copy paste assets from the polaris for the Perseus
And Galaxy
Because bigger ship = more assets/models
🤨
also because they kinda do the whole opposite with drake rn
the interior will look new to me
doing the Ironclad before Kraken
I hope they mix alot of the zeus into the perseus
Zeus has a way better interior than the Polaris
Thats what people say of the polaris one lmao
jesus christ

another example of concept vs ingame
guess don't have to post the ingame one since i think you know how it looks ingame
has nothing in common with the ship ingame
thats the area with the grav hangar?
i dont remember the in game one looking that detailed
the ingame hangar
just ignore the 20 furies
i mean i dont expect in game stuff to look as good as concept art but
They really went far off from the original concept - I mean I don't care - I don't like the polaris either way, neither now, neither in concept.
llol
I just hope they don't do it with the percy since I really like the percy concept
yeah..
I mean depends on the concept and concept artist I guess, but usually the actual Product should be usually extremely close to the 'final concept'
But on the polaris they reaaaaallly got far away from the concept xD
at least interior wise
i havent actually gone and compared concept art to the actual ship on anything
but yeah i agree with that
At the Percy we can only tell / see that at the torp room and I think front gunner seat room
Since.... we don't have any other concept artworks of any of the other rooms
All others are just exterior
and we confirmed that shot of the airlock a while back was the apollo, not the perseus
Would really like to see a behind the ships or something where they show the current percy
Like - fly with a freecam through the rooms like they did at the uh... Pioneer
and I think on the BMM they did that too
the bmm is doomed
yep confirmed to be the apollo
some ships are just stuck in development hell
also with that they kinda confirmed that they changed the docking collar at the apollo
since it was a roof docking collar
and not a wall one
so is there an estimation for when we'll receive more info on the perseus, based on other ships' timelines
Depends
If they will continue to leak more apollo stuff
or decide to slide percy stuff in between
hmm
I mean, worst case, latest will be citizenscon
Since we know that the planned release is IAE
Maybe we will get another apollo leak next week with the monthly report - maybe also a percy leak or both
im guessing the apollo will use more of the constellation's design language
a lot more white
Connie design language is outdated
also we know how the apollo looks inside
there is a "ingame" (?) picture
is the connie series expected to get updated? soontm?
kind of
They said they want to bring it up to gold standart
and may rework the interior
yeah lol
I mean its way closer than the polaris concepts vs ingame xD
i really like the terrapin medic's interior, it looks like how a medical ship interior should look
very bright, white, and sterile looking
don't forget its work in progress lol
yeah
they might make the lights brighter etc
heck they even did that with the polaris
post release xD
I mean they cant really if they never showed us how it looks inside eh?
its hard to have expectations in this game
oh i was gonna mention
the corsair used to have terrible bugs with its elevator
but recently it seems like cig's done a pretty good job fixing elevator related bugs
except
haha
but i was pretty happy with the corsair's combination of ramp + elevator entryways
Yeah Percy only has 2 ground entrance points and both are elevators
but then you have like the hercules' ramps that take AGES to deploy
and then
the perseus probably wont have one
the zeus has that little ladder that goes right up next to the cockpit
so incredibly useful
it may be usefull for a small ship sure
but I think always at boarding situations lol
There you want to have as much distance as possible to the entrance
Looks at the Hammerhead which just has one single door between the entrance and bridge
ehhhhhhhhhh
if it was up to me i'd like an elevator that just takes me right to the pilots seat
ive never been boarded ever
Yet
yeah yet
can players even open your ship on the ground?
with engineering you can fix up a ship
so you have to board it and kill the crew if you don't want it to keep fighting
Yes
wait really?
Yes
at hathor some dickwad blew up my ship and landed his guardian
They can shoot open your doors
i ran up and tried to open anything
just need a weapon for it
and nothing worked
funfact - doesn't work with elevators - thats why I said the percy is unstealable in atmo
Because even if the elevator comes down
you can't interact with the terminal xD
yeah but you cannot get up
oh
Since you can't interact with exterior doors or elevators
with a ramp you can just easily walk in
the elevator has to get back up so you can enter it....
but that aint happening since first of all shoot opened elevators STAY open until repaired (except for personal elevators where you cannot interact either way with)
and the cargo elevator as I said will just stay open, even if you press the terminal to get back up
were you here last week when we were talking about the ai blades
and we were like
just have the rear gun equipped with s8 scatterguns
and blast any unauthorized persons
yeah
also
you cant equip scatterguns on them because forgot, they are bespoken
BUT you will be able to equip Plasma Ballistic Ammo... which has radioactive AOE lasting damage
oh i dont know anything about the alternate ammo types
yeah there are like 4 i guess
we've gone full borderlands on the ammo i guess
Plasma, Flak, Incendiary, and Distorition (aka EMP)
- the normal one we have rn already
plasma apparantly mainly against ground targets because of its radioactive AOE effect
Flak is obvious I guess
Incendiary obviously meant to fight against capitals to spread fire inside of them
EMP to disable whole ships
Sooo you don't have to bother with switching guns, you can just switch the ammo
this seems like a lot of new gameplay elements/features that should be introduced with the perseus
i have a bad feeling we're just going to get a ding dong ship with big guns
Well the work on the ammo types should be already done - at least if you look at the progress tracker it was finished in end 2024
sounds like something that should have been released with the tac, considering how those side guns seem absolutely purpose built to hit ground targets
oh i wasnt aware
Its probably just a feature waiting for the manual ballistic reloading
so it sounds like a feature that will probably make it to the meteor as well
Very likely
suprised it didn't came directly with it
Since they tend to test new features with smaller ships first - if available
yeah i was kind of expecting some further improvements on ballistics in general
I mean its a dropship... obviously its made to hit on the ground xD
Its promo video is literally it flying like a AC130
for space combat the side turrets are fully ass because you barely get your turret on target
Ballistic rn is just stuck because of the non existence of maelstrom,engineering and armor
- manual reload elevators
Rn ballistic sucks because of 50 %+20(?)% damage reduction on all ships
50% base reduction, and the other one additionally on top if shields are online
dunno how I should explain it
ill just look it up
you know right now, you can just shoot of engines and wings mostly?
The Maelstrom is a size 2 grade C military power plant manufactured by Aegis Dynamics.
oh interesting
with maelstrom you are supposed to destroy whole parts of a ship
oh its a destruction system
so with ballistics you could potentially saw through a ship
yep
THey also said ballistics will be able to penetrate into hallways and rooms of ships
Like killing engineers running around etc
and yes, they clarified, that does NOT count for bridges and cockpits so you cannot insta kill the pilot
lmao yeet
so far i know a year or so ago they also said there will be different kinds of cargo that can explode if shoot etc or being radioactive etc...
Or also cargo that doesn't like if you QT
Dunno what happened with those plans.
🤷♂️
seems to be a common occurance
imagine a flyby with the percy
and just throwing out of the cargo hold multiple scu of fully radioactive containers above jump town
ah yes the improvised a2
Causing Jump Town to become a full hazard area 
have they talked about how ammo would work?
would we use that cargohold to store ammo
yes
They also descriped the reload mechanism to be some kind of Freight Elevator inside of the ship
at the cargo bay
I personally imagine it like a 'reverse reclaimer' or vulture output thing
Like where it spits out the scrap^^ Just instead of spitting it out, you put it on the conveyor and it pulls it in
so basically a magic teleporter where it takes ammo from a box in the cargohold and puts it in the gun
ammo loading should at least be somewhat near the gun
but something something space game
I mean its still a game
or do you want to need a dedicated reloader for every single gun?
theres so much shit in this game that just wastes your time
also - in modern tanks its also made like that (called auto loader)
i wouldnt be surprised
yeah but im comparing it to like real naval ships
tanks are at least compact enough to where you can separate the ammo compartment from the gun
real naval ships also have auto loaders
all of that* is done automatically ofc
almost 3 am lmao
Germany xD
But i'm fine, working on my design portfolio all the time since BF stream ended
nobody in the states says mate that much
i'll probably finish my resource drive tonight
and then back to playing regular star citizen i guess
Already finished it a few days ago
I say mate occasionally
But that's because I don't have a personality and absorb who's around me
I am sheep
moo
How dare of you cutting the percy in half



Rustles Perseus is probably still under construction, still waiting on the second half to be fabricated
But the captains quarters isn't in the front of the ship
New Month, New Monthly Report!
I honestly would prefer a sneak peak of the cargo bay
So we can finally clarify how much fits in there finally without just assuming it and having to figure out how big it may be compared to other ships
Also maybe clarify how the torpedo manual reload from the cargo bay will work
"Also we gave the Percy a Spinal Mount Pilot controlled modular weapon"
a spinally mounted s10 torpedo tube would be interesting
You have 1 single S10 torpedo - use it wisely 
would also give us an idea of how the rest of teh ship would look like too, what assets are being used from what ship, and the ratio of assets from ships
Locks onto a red aurora
Yeah we have enough concept and artworks of exterior even if it changed
Exactly my thought
But have barely ANYTHING for the interior
like, we don't know how the bridge looks like, the entire crew rooms are still fully unknown
the entire cargo area
basically 80% oif the ships interior is unknown
not even 3d renders from what i can tell, they look all hand drawn on computer
Because they are lol
They are handdrawn
theyre that good to my eyes
No way they had 3D models at that time already
I mean that kind of 3D model is already finish phase
xD
well it could be a mix between some transformed basic shapes along with mostly handdrawn stuff
Like basic shape and drawn over them xD
yeah basically
guess just drawing it is faster xD
the rails for the seat looks very computer generated
like an object in a rendering software
either way, we dont have enough interior images, let alone enough artist renders
Also I may just note
I see why they went with the Mantis interior rework just now
Same celling lights as in the mantis
oooohhhh
Just in white instead of blue
its literally all coming together
saw them in the galaxy aswell already
there might be some assets in the meteor that the Perseus is meant to have too
Or
that we dont know of
It was already finished for the percy
and just reused it for the meteor
Clearly they take alot of inspiration from the percy concepts ironically
if thats the case...
Looks at the Constellation series
Bet Connie will get the same lights
why not them?
ah it was meant to be a continuation of what i said just before, yeah.
I mean connies need 'more' rework than a mantis in terms of work and time...
Mantis one ship and shares 1:1 copy with meteor
god the Connies are gonna become the community's beloved again when the rework happens
Connie you need to rework 2 whole variants (Dromeda and Taurus)
And "half" of the phoenix
ah true
i have a decision to make
Perseus
when the idris goes back on sale, do i melt my beloved
its been one of the hardest decisions in my life
story of star citizen
Renegade is being tempted by darkness
i know, im trying to be stronk
Getting the Idris just to get bullied then by Percy players 
Repent! For the Grand Perseus Fleet shall strike down the temptations of evil and deliver you to Glory!
"nooo nooo don't take my engines awaaaay"
i even have the special paint
its strange that the idris has most its firepower onits upper half, only 3 turrets on its belly
having the paint means you have an extra level of devotion
you mean the shark paint or the percy special paint?
percy
(while I am still betting the percy will get a shark paint)
(I mean a Shark literally been their inspiration)
i saaid the same thing
is the shark paint still available even?
OH OH, the Hammerhead should also get a hammerhead shark paint too! complete the trinity!!
Still doesn't look like a "Hammerhead" in my view but eh
im begining to hate the polaris loaner
i started hating it after a week after having to deal with teh large hangar
i hate the bridge location
bridge section is too big for what it is
why is the holo table not where the captains seat is, or right behind it
ya, so much wasted room
surely they couldve added a couple more remote turrets and gunner terminals where theship avionics space is
pretty much i guess lol
ah nvm the Idris was it not the percy
too much wasted space in the polaris bridge
with the remote seats next to the walls
May I also note
The Percy has no captain useless seat
the Pilot is the captain, cause why would a captain not want to pilot their own ship?
last time i set in the polaris useless captain seat, i got stuck
Looks at Idris, Bengal, Javelin, Polaris
i could make an inappropriate joke about the captains chair in teh polaris lol, which also extends out to the idris
Percy only has three seats in the bridge, and thats it, there isn't anything else in the bridge
-# the cuck chair
in the Perseus,, everyone has a functional purpose
Love still the fact that the engineer bay is literally just a room behind the bridge
any word on the torp being pilot controlled? i know they are saying it might have the torp operator like the polaris
i mean realistically in big fleet battles you'd more likely want to be concerned with the bigger picture as the captain and offload flying to someone else
It is pilot controlled confirmed.
goooooooooooooooooooooooood
20x S5 Torps
question is, how do we get the comps out of the ship if some comps are in the bridge deck? Will they have a hidden airlock like the zeus?
i have a major decision to make
So..... alot of harbringers in one ship
i like the challenge 
You forgor its S3 comps, you can only change them with the vehicle manager
No plans on physicalizing them
then you'll probably be able to slave it like modern day tank commanders, their main thing is to command but they can take control of the gun, so prolly something similar for captain seats where you can control some aspects
oh, i was just about to ask about that
but it's more of a fallback
I mean the harbringer is still good
for PvE
at a certain size you'll just have to take your ships to a drydock, it'll probably take some time and cash in the future to change out big comps as well
thats disappointing from an engineering standpoint to not physicalise s3 and up comps, but i suppose that makes designing ships a lot easier
no just not having to think about everything
without keeping in mind they may have to move the S3 comps out and in
S3 Comps don't fit through the doorways
at some point we'll probably have some way to get them out of ships via like the crucible and stuff, but that's gonna require tech that will make it so we can literally cut parts of the ship and reattach them
aka if you really wanna do it physically if they implement this ever (it would probably be a post 1.0 thing if they ever do it) you'd have to have like a crucible come around, cut a piece of your ship, change the comp and repair it
lmao, space engineers grinding and welding ships in half

ngl that'd be fun as shit
Oh god that was so pain to connect them again in SE1
though that is quite realistic since some ships irl also does that, dont they?
like they could have BP's of ships so you know where the important cables and wiring are and you have to manually go and repair them each time
go into drydock, get partially dissassembled and reassembled after comps get swapped out?
ye
afaik nuclear ships take like an entire ahh crew 3 years or smt to refuel
ah yeah thats right
like it's an entire procedure on it's own
so that's probably what it will be for changing large comps
t0 ship breaking and reassembly gameplay, its the Half Life Alyx "hacking" gameplay with teh holographic wire stuff
tbh they made changing around modules sound like it's going to be such a huge deal where it takes time and money but to me changing modules seem way easier than changing large comps
surely there will be dedicated spae docks around org station that deal with that stuff
changing modules just takes some towing as what they have said for most ships is that modules are pretty plug and play, changing large comps is a whole ahh thing
I mean for the galaxy module changing they said you will have to go to specific stations to do so
I assume this will apply to S3 comps aswell
Most likely the major space stations or cities lmao
they did say that but i'm only saying changing s3 comps should take way longer than modules on a galaxy and be more costly
modules requiring dedicated facilities makes sense, so i shouldve imagined s3 comps needing something similar if i had remembered s3 comps wouldnt be physicalised
the work involved with changing the modules of a galaxy is simply the work of having to get the module in there, the space is easily accessible, the comp however literally requires the ship to be modified
Retaliator sipping on a glass of wine in the back
unless they come up with something like oh ships are basically lego so it's actually easier
yeah like technically no reason why an SRV or anything with a strong tractor beam couldn't change the tali modules on the fly in like seconds
well it is the 2950s, surely youd think most ships would be thw equivelant of those make it yourself hobby aircrafts in terms of assembly and self repair and service
CIG during 2029 citcon
"Oh yeah, we decided that all ships can be taken apart and put together like lego. You can take the engines and shipbuster off the bengal and attach them to a 600i"
thing is if they go toward just making it actual lego then like why did they sell us 3k ships
if we just have a custom ship maker available to everyone lol
because we wanna fly em 🥹
unless there's some inherent nerf to custom made ships
bad component integrity, bad structural integrity, ship insurers wont insure them because theyre unauthorised modifications
yeah i guess
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i personally wouldn't suggest buying from GM, the site doesn't load for me for some reason so i can't see the price but if you're patient and hold on for a year or two and collect ccu's you can get a percy for around 300$ (although that's probably if you already have a perseus ccu now, otherwise with price hike that'll be tougher)
The price is 456 Dollars, Yeah few people been telling me the price will go up so making me wanting to get it now. I was wondering if I was to get it and then melt it would I get the base value of 600 dollars? As the ships said to be ccued
absolutely not
when you get a ship via a ccu you do not get the base value of the ship, you get the melt value, aka how much was spent getting the ship there
ah okay
so if it was 200$ worth of upgrades over a cutlass which is 110$ you'd get $310 back
ah okay ty
if you want to lock the price in i'd buy a perseus ccu from gm although still keep in mind that there is risk involved with that
and then just build a chain until next year IAE
you'll have to wait a year but i'd rather do that then to pay $450 which in my eyes the about $200 you save isn't worth the risk
🫡 ty
My bad sorry for posting here
eh, call the mods mate, at least i'm giving someone advice on the best route of buying a perseus instead of literally a whole another game kek
wild you're still petty about it tho 
lmao, did i miss some drama just now

tldr i asked him and some other guy to talk about battlefield elsewhere and now i'm living in his head rent-free
lmfao
i'm surprised he's still not dropped it lol
I mean - just posted a channel where you have to go - nothing else xD
Dude, I just posted a channel, there is no reason for you to be passive aggressive all the time^^
i'm not saying anything, just letting you know you'll be okay and that i love you man
Hey girls
Monthly Report baby
Another sneak peak of a ship thats not the Percy - it slowly becomes Heresy CIG
CIG blue balling everyone and they never actually started working on the Perseus
Because they're holding for IAE to blow IAE sales up
If they splurged the hype now, no one will care
Come sale
(outside sources who don't know what the Perseus is)
They ramp hype around the biggest ship nonsense and sell it hard with big guns oh yeah. 😎 Easy money. All the Perseus fanboys gonna be foaming from the mouth as free advertising for CIG
At least the concepts of this one also look very sexy
Nice snub for the Percy
If said snub fits
Has to be similar sized as the ursa to fit and i think the Merlin is already Borderline too big?
Yeah apparently this is Gladius sized 
been a while since a light fighter was dropped
you mean additionally to the 313654684 other fighters? 
Welllllll
I doubt it will fit then

all of those concepts look either way (I'm still hoping they go for the naboo fighter one simply because star wars) more like light fighter - interceptor
So something like a 325a, very fast and such but light gunned
we got enough of those
more small targets for Perseus owners with extremely unrealistic expectations for their ship to try and kill then complain to CIG on spectrum
I honestly doubt that the percy main turrets will hit them though
More likely only the PDCs and the S3 turrets
Just wait till someone gets one in a crossfire, then spectrum blows up
I mean... fair enough afterall one single shoot may blow a light fighter up instantly
even with the 50+20% reduction
Ares Flashbacks
Welllllll
Idk how well the Meteor sold
If at all
Didn't see any buffs come up for it... So must have sold alright?
Do I want Perseus to be good; yes. Do I want every ship to be good; yes.
Perseus should... SHOULD, rock shit even with the 70% reduction
@lone bloom They put the M2 Starlifter In as a main cargo ship for large haul recovery, put the Cate in store, but not the M2

so its only M2 now at recovery or what
Don't want it to be too good it gets swung with nerf bat because it will only sour my opinion of CIG
No.. I'm saying they put the caterpillar in pledge store but not the M2
oh
Even though M2 is a main ship in Cargo haul recovery
CIG doesn't want to give ships for the percy CCU
50/50 shot ironclad comes out at IAE.... If it doesn't and no M2 Warbond
Fuck
Gonna have to fill in that section with whatever is at IAE
Yup
Need RGB paint. All black with RGB trim

@lone bloom
already downloaded
wait early access pre-order can play the open beta 7-8?
Depends
"Early Access starts Aug 7th"
Yeah I have access to it
If you were watching the reveal mulitplayer stream you were able to get pre access codes from streamers
ohhh
dunno if preorder has access too
Can we get an update on this?
Lod phase 1
At least thats what we are coping for
how many phases does LOD has?
I've never followed a ship development as closely as Pecy
We'll see Wednesday in the monthly report
Technically "LOD" is only one phase
Just like Greybox and whitebox are "one" phase
But either way - its the last phase before release 
Delicious
Well since games are now gonna be $100 a piece. That’s 2-2.5 games there. Chump change now
Only if you buy from nintendo tho
Rockstar. Once rockstar and Nintendo set a price. Everyone will follow
Nintendo did set a price
And yet noone followed
Next year
Rockstar is the only company that could actually justify that pricetag
All others? No
COD is 100% going to $100 next year if they aren’t already doing it for this year
And if that will become a trend that so called Tripple A games that get worse and worse by year, will be 100 bucks or more i will just wait every single game out till it drops on keyshop sites 50%
They are delulu if they up their prices after loosing like 80% of their community to battlefield
And no that 80% isn't a guess, its statistically a fact
If they will up their prices, only whale fanboys will be left, and they aren't enough to keep them going money wise
Yeah. CoD been going down hill ever since they started with the future shit
Not future
More like Kiddo fortnite creepy uncle layoff
Which pretty much started at MW2
BO2 was their last great game. Set in 2025 but that was nothing when they had advanced warfare and you jumping and flying around
Well my first CoD was BO3, I enjoyed it, and played it for thousands of hours. I also did enjoy Infinite warfare
I bought infinite warfare and never touched it. I spent the extra money for that CoD 4 remastered and everyone was playing that
I skipped most CoD simply because of financial factor since every year there is a new one and ain't gonna pay 60 (now its 80-90) each year for a quite very similar game as the previous one, but up to MW2 I enjoyed every single one
afterwards I did not like them
Honestly, best CoD campaign still so far

I only ever played CoD on PC and if you wanted to play, had to get the newest game for how small the player base was for PC. I missed when they didn’t run servers for PC, anyone could run a server and I use to play HC S&D bolt snipers only back in BO1
But yeah, BF fucked up once (2042) and CoD fucked up so many times in a row now that ofc they loose their fanbase
So they have no argument to justify a price increase, even the 80 bucks is already delulu
I mean, just to note, I also do think the pricing of ships in SC are delulu
like - extreme delulu
Not even half baked game, and has a bigger, more toxic, more expensive monitarization than most current gen games
with 'most' I mean more than all of them except for maybe LoL, Counter Strike and the weird train thing from EA
Yeah but the price is somewhat reasonable. Can’t sell capital ships for less than $1k other wise there would be no point in grinding them in game. I used to play WoT and WoWS and currently play war thunder and you can pretty much pay your way to the top. So having a hefty price will keep people from just paying their way up
Yeah, ofc there is the factor of balance of keeping players to play instead of just buy everything and leave - that doesn't change their monetarization model tho
And at least CiG has a game and have been putting in things they promised even if it is buggy and takes a decade or 2. Not like the no mans sky insistent where they promised everything on release and it had nothing to the game
Yet they released almost (?) if not everything they did promise by now
for free
and keep updating it without making new-ish money of it
While CIG cannot even keep promises they made more than a decade ago
And very likely has way more financial abilities to do so
The only thing I do like about it is that you can get at least (almost) every ship you can buy or could buy also ingame
Yeah but they lost a lot of money on a promise of what would be in the game on release. No mans sky’s never had multiplayer on release what killed the game
So far I know
They had
But the galaxy was simply too big to navigate lol
So you basically never saw anyone else
They have multiplayer now but for like a year or 2 it was single player
Within the first week people were meeting each other on the same planet and never seen anyone. On the steam page before release said it was multiplayer then on release day they removed it

Still they kept their promises - at some point
CIG did not - yet so far - and is still many years behind
Did CIG promise it would be added to the game at this date or did they say they want to add this and promise at some point to add it in?
I mean they did promised multiple times that SQ42 releases at date XYZ
Same for SC
and they did that every year up to 2018
So - yes - yes they did
Ah

I think the first actual planned release date (with all the funding goals) was 2014 xD
Oh damn
and here we are
2025 boyyyy
And its still only half cooked
and we only saw once SQ42 gameplay 
and even that crashed like 10 times while showing it
funfact, they did also gave a year last citizenscon again for SQ42 
For its "supposed release"
supposed to release 2026 
What year?
I thought it is coming to 2026 regardless of their say or not because of investors pulling out
So far I know they were already able to pull out this year
Also just fact checked myself
yes the first announced release date was 2014
for SC and SQ42
"Has been repeatedly delayed"
" becoming the most expensive video game in the world, as well as one of the most expensive single pieces of entertainment ever produced."
and not even released 
What I think is if they do release SQ42 next year. Their best move is to also move SC at least beta and have majority of their promised pledge ships to be released so new players that play SQ42 can come to SC pledge ships that are in the game and like 3 years SC be live
Majority of their promised pledge ships is already released so far I know
at least its more than 50%
in terms of ships....
Yeah but still a decent amount. Still only 2 capitals though
I think in terms of promised 'game' its only like 13%
I mean.... 2 out of 100 star systems 
But 2 out of 5 for them to consider being 1.0
Also most importantly - pets are still missing - where is my pet space cat or dog croberts
I just want my kraken and everything else is just a bonus to me
yeah because they obviously can't keep their original funding goals and have to move away from those
i'm absolutely fine with 5 systems - if they are filled with life and stuff and not repeating boring stuff like it is rn
But it was about keeping promises, no?
And their promise was : 100 Star Systems
I don’t know why they would say 100. Even if they did manage that I’d feel it would be way too much
They did, its still even on their website
Oh shit

all their goals and promises are still there on that list
Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.
Pets was their 64 million goal
Also bengal? Thought someone told me before they aren’t gonna go past anything bigger than a javelin for player owned
Bengal got reconfirmed as 'player' ownable ship last citizenscon
Got shown in the basebuild video
You cannot buy it or such you have to craft it
At those Org Base station you have to build first- and then have to build the drydock addon AND THEN you can build your own bengal
and very likely also the leaked/announced battlecruiser which will also be likely larger than the Javelin
since Battlecruisers are larger than destroyers
(likely the Escort Bengal Variant with 4 main turrets instead of one like the bengal carrier)
This one
loses bit of length apparantly, and the two upper main engines but gains 3 main turrets
I looked at their goals. I seen one where every $100k they will add a new star system XD
yeah ends up with 100 star systems at 6 million
Most interesting SC system will be by the way Odin likely
Since Odin is the System where SQ42 plays apparantly entirely
so if they just go lazy and copy paste it over from SQ42 without making 'post war changes' like destroyed worlds or huge vanduul or bengal shipwrecks of old warfares
or - welp adding them to make it feel like it has history
What year does SQ42 take place in?
dunno what exact year but its 100% before SC
The Vanduul War is already over in SC timeline
SQ42 happens before SC
funfact that is also connected with the Perseus Lore
Perseus was one of the main escort ships while the vanduul war
at least the Percy MK I
Ah ok. Thought if it was in the future. You could have a before and after war
Since we will get the Percy MK II
Yeah I mean I hope they make Odin system like "mid war" (obviously) with the SQ42 campaign - and post war for SC
I hope they don't copy paste it just from SQ42
They’ll probably copy and paste
Dunno right now if Odin is also the system were the "story perseus" in lore was that killed 2 vanduul destroyers by itsself but would be cool if there would be a easter egg for it
Like two vanduul destroyer wrecks just floating in an asteroid field
With huge holes in them
They should start adding lore into SC
(Don't ask me how a very old ship at that time managed to destroy two huge vanduul ships the size of a javelin)
Like I watched this one YouTube someone made a documentary for drake and other companies and I watched the entire 1.5 hr video
They do have a shit ton of lore - for literally everything - but its 97% exclusively text
So far I know that is indeed the drake lore lol
Thats not fanmade
xD
I know but they should add it into SC like you said for the Odin system have it after war
Well they try rn to add ingame lore with the events
you can find lore pieces here and there in lazarus etc
But those are obviously mostly only about the regen crises etc
Yeah
I mean - maybe the SC story (yes SC will get its own story) will have lore integrated
of ship manufactures - and also of post war stuff of SQ42
I haven’t really done events. They are only temporary anyways. I work on a boat so I’m never home. I don’t want to sit there and grind. Want to relax and play. Story should be done at anytime. Not thrown into an event for a limited time
Uh yes and no
Lazarus for example isn't temporarily it will stay forever as sandbox activity
just like the upcoming onyx facilities
and the event rewards are also not temporarily, those are permanent
But this race for Stanton is just a grind for just a name change for the jump gate
Also no
Yes the jump gate gets named after the winning faction but thats not the only thing
the winning factions planet will have a 5% off on all shops on its planet and main station
and you ofc get also a shit load of permanent rewards
Only rewards I noticed was that 5% off and paints and a couple of guns I think
Those all are the rewards
you are literally able to get ALL of that
so 36 ship paints
16 weapons + paints
4 armor (+1 winning faction armor) sets
+4 clothing sets
annnnd 4 multitools + paints for them
Cosmetic stuff. That has no real impact than just looks. All the guns paints and armor is for all the same thing. Would made it more unique if each one had paints for like say Zeus and catapiller. And another for c2 and c1. And for like the guns. One faction could of had the pistol, one for rifle etc
also yes and no
the ship paints, yep they are purely cosmetic
the armor and weapons.... not really
you get the gun aswell xD
dunno if you did watch last citizenscon but having those guns actively as your 'pledge' aka as item in your hangar may be a huge winn for you longterm
Yeah. But I see it as junk that fills up storage. Why do I want 100 of the same thing that has a different look if I could have the base like the gun for the exact same purpose
I skimmed through it.
well then just do one company? don't need to finish all 4
But simply having the guns is already a huge winn
Because you will never lose them
I already got the guns from the worm area and I can always go back for another one if they ever make you lose armor and guns again
yeah sure you could
But for example you would very very like the pistol there
Option 1: You don't have it and have to go loot it again once you die or loot your dead body in the hope the other person did not loot it or it did not despawn
Option 2: you have that gun as Item in your hangar and you can just recraft it
You can recraft perm/pledged items?
Yeah
But can’t use craft just the base gun without the fancy paint as long as you find the recipe?
I mean if you can find the recipe?
I mean keep in mind there will also be "one time usage" blueprints
So you first have to find the blueprint for your specific gun you want - and then also have to hope its not just a one time usage one
Some magical being rips the blueprint out of your hands when you finish making the item? XD
Sure
I mean they descriped the blueprints as datadiscs you can upload to your mobiglass or something
More logical would be that the files are corrupted or such and only allow to produce it only once and the file is corrupted after
Ah makes a bit more sense
Will extremely likely apply to most ship blueprints if not all ship blueprints
But I bet simply for the sake of explorations they will also do that with armor and guns
I probably should of watched the entire of last year citizen con but I really only watched what they plan for insurance and all that
Yeah that was all part of crafting and basebuild
Shocker for you then: There will be Tier 1-5 guns
and also ships

How it sounds like. I can go and “steal” a friends capital ship and go to pyro and get a title for it and all they gotta do is file an insurance claim
Yes and no again xD
😄
yes they can just claim it, but CIG said multiple times by now, they will very strongly increase claim times
Yeah
But for you to 'get' that ship too by 'stealing' it it requires you to do ALOT besides just - well - stealing it
But even if the claim time is 2 weeks, that’s nothing for me since I work on a boat. I could give my friend my privateer and I can just wait out that claim time
First of all you have to be very likely max rep with the outlaw guild (which btw causes you to be shoot on sign in all UEE systems as it sounded like)
secondly it will cause you to be not able to do any work for for the mercenary guild at all anymore so you will not be able to get any blueprints or ships if it requires you to have XY rep at the mercenary guild
Also you still have to PAY so the ship counts as yours
I think they said something like 70-80% of the original ship costs
so if the javelin would cost 100 million (surely will cost way more but doesn't matter) you would still have to pay like 80 million
Its not as easy as you think it is xD
Money should be easy to come by unless they nerf every contract to the ground
alsooo additionally to ALL that - you still need to insurance it
and need a warranty token if you wanna keep it forever
I don't think they will nerf the contracts to the ground
I think they will just up the prices of ships by like 500%
aka in other words, if you want to buy a ingame cap like the 890 - be prepared to farm for months
You get a warranty token from SQ42 completion? But still someone could give me their javelin and just pay a lot of money instead of dealing with wikelo 5.0 to get the javelin in game
or crafting*
likely also purchase if high rep with mercenary guild
also i don't think they said warranty token for SQ42 completion - but for SC story completion
Crafting is pretty much wikelo. You give him materials and you get what you want
but could imagine if they are able to connect those you may get a secondary token for SQ42 aswell
Ehhh
by now yes
a patch ago it was more like crafting casino XD
Crafting will have a timer most likely
Yeah
and getting a ship I don't want
like wikelo had/has
I could also imagine them setting a size limit for ships you can steal and 'make your own'
Like you can only do it with ships that are less than 100 meters length or something
Then you do it for what ever the hardest ship to get is
F-8A could be the ship you get from SQ42 since the C variant is already out
would be a face punch for all F8C owners but mayhaps xD
I mean I have mostly 0 interest in fighters
I'm cheap ass, it's hard to justify spending $60 up front. For well anything unless I know without a shadow of a doubt that I'll like.
Nickel and dime $5 here and there is easy
IN terms of fighting i am mostly only looking for the perseus
Don't need any other combat ship
But I really want to know what they are doing with the F-8A since it’s been in the files ready to go ever since they released the idris during invictus
Percy is more like bringing artillery to a knife fight no?
Holding it for Copium
+2 guns and up sized
I bet with you, holding it up for sales and marketing

I mean they did hold the Idris aswell in the backhand for last ILW
Perseus be like; "oh no ... Anyways"
Because simply nothing of meaning really did release there at ILW
only variants
except for the MTC
And idris
see
And thats probably what they do with the F8A because they know many are waiting for it
Holding it in the backhand for 'bad times'
because they know people will throw money at it
And because of the already stupidly high price of the F8C you can expect the F8A to be way more pricy
I’d buy it and throw on ballistic scatterguns since it is 6, S3 and 2, S4

Btw. You think we be able to tour the kraken next invictus? Since drake suppose to come back bigger and badder next year
No
They are only going to start the reconcept in December
So I don't think they will actually start working on the interior until mid-late next year
Even that would be high copium
Reconcepting a ship this size will surely take a while, and they mostly then start to work on the hull first than interior....
considering the polaris took 2-3 years and is smaller in every way... have fun waiting - i mean at least its coming before BMM 
The heat death of the universe will happen before the BMM
Idk the railen entering production has given me hopium that alien ships will stop taking the back burner
Chat we are cooking good today
Had very high hope for a interior sneak peak but whatever
Also I have question
Side windows in bridge floor?
Or just random structure?
CIG fueling now our copium
The cannon housing looks bigger than the concept
That’s rad
Gib big boom cylinders
Im assuming theyre like the windows of the zeus kitchen area, recessed in deep of the hull
I also hate the fact that they changed ALOT
Concept > than whatever this is
Bridge is way smaller in the final one
and they decided to round the edges alot
I was assuming theyd do this, perhaps to fit the comps into the walls of the deck
Also seeing the BRIDGE DECK AIRLOCK made me realise theyre not windows
The front is still the same
also they made the bridge section way fatter
The glass part
They just made the neck extent more
Which hopefully means more bridge space
And it’s not just negative space
Think the extra thickness as the same as the torpedo bulges they added on large warships in ww1 and ww2
They also kept the top hull basically the same!
maybe but still, they made it very thick
Just some greebles here and there
It may be a new section entirely
Imagine its a superheavy perseus variant lmao
appears to be more like that by now
It has an air lock so it could be a pressurization room
like making it by 1/3 bigger
So in the future you can easily exit and enter in space without losing atmo
What airlock ya talking about tho i don't see one
oh
oh no
first of all, I hope the airlock in the cargo bay is still there
secondly I fucking hope they reverse that airlock there
So you dont waste time going through the bottom when in eva
That’s either going to be super good QOL for owners or every pirates wet dream
Surely they kept that one, rsi is starting to get multiple entry exit points now
I already hated it on the HH and said always its a design flaw
and now they repeat it on our holy ship
Thats heresy
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Well dont forget that we might be getting maelstrom t0 with engineering, small arms and small ship weapons shouldnt be able to open it




