#Perseus Pals

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lone bloom
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Even older ones 12

crystal sleet
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black ops 2 is still 80 fucking dollars on steam

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i dont got console

lone bloom
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Meanwhile Mario kart 8 costs still 50+

lone bloom
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I buy on keyshops

crystal sleet
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sorry, $95 AUD

lone bloom
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There its 80% less

crystal sleet
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ive never tried buying at keyshops (i actually didnt know they existed till now lmao)

lone bloom
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Pretty much exclusively buy on keyshops

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They are always at least 10% less even at launch

crystal sleet
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are they safe?

lone bloom
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The ones I use yes xD

crystal sleet
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ooh, G2A

lone bloom
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There are also grey area stuff

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I mean you surely already heard of Instantgaming or MMOGA^^

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for example Expedition 33 is just a month or two old

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42% less than on steam 28.83 bucks

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Think on steam its 50

crystal sleet
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holy fucking shit, 20 bucks for bo2???

lone bloom
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I don't see black ops 2 there? for me its sold out xD

crystal sleet
lone bloom
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Yeah I don't know G2a

lone bloom
crystal sleet
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also theres stock?

lone bloom
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But both don't have BO2 anymore because its too old

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and prob don't get the keys anymore from steam

crystal sleet
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oh right

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oooh, its an account thats got the game

lone bloom
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It purely depends on WHERE you buy xD

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In both cases its still over the steam launcher

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you just simply pay less

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I don't know how those websites do that, probably buy keys from steam in huge masses and steam gets x% of the sales while they can sell it for less, but since more people buy over steam itsself steam can grab two groups of players those who wait till its reduced in price and those who pay instantly full price

crystal sleet
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makes sense, i just didnt realise they were literally just greymarkets

lone bloom
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I don't think those two I mentioned are greymarkets

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But there are some that are

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Since Instantgaming for example makes actively advertisement on Youtube / twitch

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Yeah just googled it, they get keys from legal sources so its fully legal, not even grey

crystal sleet
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forgot to specify the way pricing works lol, goes WAY up with low stock

lone bloom
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So - my point still stands, Nintendo sucks xD

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Since every other game from any other company you can get at least on keyshops massively reduced in price

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But Nintendo games are still highly exclusive and mostly only sold by Nintendo themselfes which never go down in price

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Probably that exclusivity is the only thing that justified their prices and keeps them afloat

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I mean

crystal sleet
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damn thats cheap

lone bloom
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tbf GTA 5 was also free for a very short time

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at Epic Games

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Thats why I said Rockstar is surely the only company that isn't as cash grabby as all others yet

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(In the tripple A area)

crystal sleet
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i suppose, but im stil mad at them for taking ages to fix exploits and non modded god modes, instead they targetted money dupers and nerfing heist payouts

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they added EAC literally early last year

lone bloom
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Well - yes - thats shit and probably will stay like that - but you can still get pretty much everything without having to cash in every few months

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Unlike - every other game

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Looks at Seasonpass - Premium and even fucking deluxe season pass - ingame pay only stores - ingame fucking gambling stuff (looks at Fifa)

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(tbf I don't mind seasonpasses, aslong there isn't a 'deluxe' extra pass ontop of it like COD does)

crystal sleet
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would you include microsoft and playstations online access subscriptions to that too?

lone bloom
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With Microsoft I assume you mean the Xbox online access

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Well - absolutely xD Since you're paying already for the internet... and then you pay just to get access to the online service? just fucked up xD

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Thats why I don't have a konsole

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Depending on for how long you use a konsole its even more expensive than just getting a PC

crystal sleet
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ive had an xbox since 2015 to 2020. Damn it felt good not having to worry about recurring payments

lone bloom
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Laughs in 20 streaming hosters for movies and other stuff

lone bloom
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Maybe even three

crystal sleet
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that was too far in the future in the scheme of my canon events

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wasnt even finalised in gods story board

crystal sleet
lone bloom
# crystal sleet

"I will bring hell upon the siners with their Idrises and Polarises"

crystal sleet
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"May God be with you, because no one else will be"

lone bloom
uneven thistle
uneven thistle
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Got it for only $25 today kekw

steel sparrow
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Me trying to convince myself the original paint looks better and I don’t need it

lone bloom
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look better

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Don't even have to convince myself that it looks better because I simply believe it looks better kekl And that there will be also better skins at release either way

tawny fern
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Bis perseus šŸ˜

uneven thistle
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I don't like the paint, I just want it anyway

humble anvil
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The Perseus is the ship I'll probably grab all paints for

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Nice to be able to change my flavor depending on what I'm doing

lone bloom
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But maybe there will be a shark skin like the one for the Idris

humble anvil
humble anvil
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Still look sleek as fk

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Wikelo paint on it going to look good as well

humble anvil
lone bloom
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So its not 'all all paints' then kekl

humble anvil
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No because it's not a paint

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It's a whole fucking ship

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I ain't farming the Wikelo varient

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Waste of time

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Wikelo Railgun

lone bloom
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So - when Railgun sized wikelo sniper?

humble anvil
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I need it

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The Railgun

lone bloom
humble anvil
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Maybe drop some RNG to gamba for it

lone bloom
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Thought they wanna go away from RNG completely

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Or did that only count for ships?

humble anvil
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So I don't think that the Wikelo Railgun is in 4.2.1

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I have to check

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Just like the components

lone bloom
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I mean... what is different from that one from the normal one either way?

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Just the paint, or not?

humble anvil
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A color

lone bloom
humble anvil
lone bloom
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And requirement something absurd like a Valakkar pearl

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while you can get 2-4 railguns in said stations

humble anvil
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Actually just Hathor stuff

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But ye

lone bloom
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Yeah but.... they just spawn at lazarus or at the stations before you go there

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so.... its just the paint

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Would be something if it would have a 20% faster charge time

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Otherwise just a great trophy to set in a room soontm in basebuilding or in a ship

steel sparrow
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What mission is that

uneven thistle
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Fuck Wikelo

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I'm not doing any of that shit until 1.0

grave canyon
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fuck wikelo i hate aliens

crystal sleet
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Purge the aliens with superior human weaponry and machine spirit

lone bloom
steel sparrow
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for the railgun

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it looks dope

lone bloom
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Also its literally apparantly just a skin, nothing statistically better on it

steel sparrow
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I haven't touch a railgun sice playing this game(4 years) so yeah, I figure I try and get one XD

lone bloom
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Well, partially, I touched a railgun in Arena Commander because of the gungame mode

humble anvil
tawny fern
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imagine the sound of the perseus s8's

humble anvil
tawny fern
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oh my god

agile kayak
crystal sleet
# tawny fern

So it is dual burst, thats gonna be wierd to get used to

tawny fern
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or is it 1600 per round

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per shell

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or 1600 per click no idea

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because according to the hud view, 2 shells are being expended from the total ammo count per burst, per gun

crystal sleet
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Thats pretty decent, id assume youd need to be a close to your target then if theres spread, depending on tye targets size

tawny fern
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Yeah thats the other thing too. Logically, dual barrels are inherently supposed to have worse accuracy but, fictional game so who knows how it’ll work

crystal sleet
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Thinking about it, since the barrels are so close to one another and that you wont be sniping small player sized targets, shot spread would be incredibly negligible unless id you were firing from nearly the max range of the guns

lone bloom
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so there is a good possibility its 3.2K dmg per 'click* and 6.4 per dual barrel hit from both guns maybe

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But only one thing will tell soon- the good old 'shoot the gladius nose' test kekw

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@humble anvil oh no in PTU the turret health of the Idris got reduced... S7 turret only has 15K HP and gets killed by a few ballistics in literal 2-4 seconds

humble anvil
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Did they decrease it further? Lol

lone bloom
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

humble anvil
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And lmaooo RIP Idris Turret

lone bloom
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Will likely only have 20K HP then

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while being way larger

humble anvil
lone bloom
humble anvil
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It's going to get fkn destroyed since it's the face of the Perseus

steel sparrow
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does shields protect turret?

lone bloom
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Against ballistic no, against laser yes

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So ballistics can shredd turrets through shields

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So you likely really really don't want to engage fighters if they have ballistics with a percy

crystal sleet
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So the fear shouldnt be that great

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Its the large ships we will need to worry about mainly

lone bloom
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I mean If I know I am gonna engange a perseus or something larger with quite large turrets, I will take ballistics as fighter

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since that will do the most (and only damage with armor) to most ships

crystal sleet
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The ares are gonna be real scary when maelstrom drops, but even then youd probably be with an escort ship anyways if youre expecting ares ships

lone bloom
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Probably, at least if you expect PvP - but the turret nerf just shows that CIG wants the fighters still to be able to badly hurt caps

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not to kill them but fuckingly heavily annoy them xd

crystal sleet
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Perhaps for now until engineering t0 (or t0.1 ?) drops

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Give em a fighting chance before players need to rethink their fleet formations

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Adapt, or complain and whinge on spectrum and get left behind

lone bloom
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I mean I don't mind the way they go rn

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Make Fighters be able to 'hurt' a capital but not destroy it

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So there is still a reason to use them and capitals aren't just a "I winn" button

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So there is an actual reason to have something with you that keeps away fighters like - well your own fighters or a HH (once she is actually usefull lmao)

lone bloom
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On repeaters it makes no difference

cursive drum
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Oh, oky.

tawny fern
lone bloom
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somehow that looks 3D printed but somehow it also looks like a holomodel from IAE

lone bloom
tawny fern
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are these bespoke guns a glimpse of things to come

cursive drum
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Unfortunatley it seems so, yes.

tawny fern
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what do you mean unfortunately

lone bloom
tawny fern
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the bespoke rsi guns on the meteor

lone bloom
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Yea they bespoken ballistic

tawny fern
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they're really strong

lone bloom
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Kinda like the Percy

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1600 dmg per shot

tawny fern
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and go doosh doosh

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just upscale them a few notches and we got perseus guns

lone bloom
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its basically a inferno with +4 guns + alot of missiles and alot faster

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Damage wise the 2 ballistic S5 are almost identically with the Inferno S7

tawny fern
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i didnt realize the perseus guns are fast firing

lone bloom
tawny fern
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i thought they would be like battleship guns

lone bloom
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Uh

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Did you ever see the ballistic S7 of the Idris?

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Thats also very rapidly firing (for a cannon)

tawny fern
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yeah it's strange

lone bloom
tawny fern
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they really are like destroyer/gunship guns

lone bloom
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5:14

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There you see the RPM

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(and thats Size 7)

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(Perseus has Size 8)

tawny fern
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i guess i imagined traditional battleship guns

lone bloom
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Used to be like that

tawny fern
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like 8rpm

lone bloom
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okay 8rpm is a bit rough but it used to be like 80% slower than in the video

tawny fern
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real battleships are what, 3rpm?

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the idris guns sound so doinky too

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meteor guns have that deep bassy oomph

lone bloom
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But no echo

steel sparrow
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but the Percy aint a "battleship" battle ship

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in lore it's not even a destroyer

tawny fern
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yeah its equivalent to those little gunboats

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i think

steel sparrow
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WW2 destroyer has gun that shoot 15 RPM

lone bloom
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Well Idris is also only a corvette no?

tawny fern
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i believe it's officially considered a frigate

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huh, i guess in 2013 they advertised it as a corvette

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and then it just got bigger

lone bloom
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Fair then its probably like that : Hammerhead/Perseus Gunboat - Polaris Corvette - Idris frigate - Javelin destroyer - Bengal/Escort battleship Dreadnought and 'aircraft carrier' be like

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So technically HH, Percy, and Nautilus being the smallest 'direct fleet' ships of the UEE

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(not counting bombers and fighters)

tawny fern
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yeah that sounds about right

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it's just, in game you have these absolutely gargantuan ships

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and then you realize wait, these are relatively small ships when we're talking about traditional naval fleets

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it gets a lot bigger

lone bloom
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I mean the normal aircraftcarrier is just 1/3 the size of a bengal

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300ish meters vs 1 km

tawny fern
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well how long does it take to run from one end of an aircraft carrier to another

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irl

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imagine doing that in star citizen

lone bloom
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Depends on how fast you can run kekw

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Less than a Minute if youre fast

tawny fern
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gonna need an a18 tram on some of these ships

lone bloom
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Bengal has one

tawny fern
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does it really lmao

lone bloom
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Yeah

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Lol

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Im unsure but i think the Kraken too

tawny fern
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i wonder how they'll make that work in game

lone bloom
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I mean

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Technically it should be just a sideways elevator?

tawny fern
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i'd imagine it's probably something like how the elevators currently work yeah

lone bloom
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Should probably even easier to Do on a straight line

tawny fern
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yeah i see what you mean

lone bloom
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Since it doesnt have to go through players and objects while being invisible

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And just goes a straight line back and forth

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Unlike the wonka elevators on stations

tawny fern
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yeah that's what i initially though, elevators teleporting you to a completely different part of the ship

lone bloom
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Cig doesnt teleport thats the point xd

tawny fern
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but one on a direct line that just travels the length of the ship sounds more plausible

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when i first started playing star citizen i thought the elevators were real lol

lone bloom
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They are in some way

tawny fern
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then i see im traveling like 8km on a horizontal plane ICANT

lone bloom
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Wonka elevator kekl

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I mean i dont get why they didnt just went with teleportation wouldve been thousand times easier

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But it is what it is kekl

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The only issue i can imagine with the interior Tram of the bengal (or and kraken)

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  1. Will it be able to Transport cargo from a to b
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  1. Will it glitch you out of the ship while qt
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I mean even the fucking staircase in the idris or just simply ladders cause you to glitch out while qt

tawny fern
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i dont even want to think about that

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what a nightmare that must be to fix

lone bloom
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Well i mean at least in the bengal you could say that the Tram gets force stopped

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Like there is a Warning that you cannot use it while the bengal is mid qt

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And that the spooling of the qt takes the bengal long enough so there will be no Tram moving anymore and locked if it comes to a stop

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In the end they have to find a way since the bengal has surely a Tram, and they wanna make the bengal Player ownable sooooo good luck kekw

cursive drum
lone bloom
tawny fern
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Well

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Tomorrow’s the big day

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We get a taste of rsi bespoke guns

cursive drum
tawny fern
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because meteor sounds cooler

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objectively

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and dual barrels are cooler

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objectively

humble anvil
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And I can fly around with said mediocrity that's not a fucking gargantuan pile of shit that's called the Polaris

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Objectively

tawny fern
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ding ding ding

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objectively

humble anvil
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At least the Meteor flies fast, and is just about the same size of a hornet and even without the ms speeds of projectile. 4x S3 Deadbolts, and the 2x S5 Cannons will be hilarious

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Yes it doesn't have it's place in the current game environment

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But ballistics are still annoying and it's enough to hit a wing, or VTOL enough to throw shit off

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All that weaponry at that form factor is insane imo

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Plus you could go full stealth Meteor. It's a little dumb, but you can still scope signature down, further if you turn everything off. I think Meteor is 6000 front? 12000 top

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Might be 3.6 front, 6 side, 12 too

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Not sure

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Riddle me an idiot but

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If you use stagger fire, this will be so fun

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Full stealth

tawny fern
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full ballistics should be really fun as long as you're not shooting anything small

cursive drum
cursive drum
tawny fern
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meteor has more than enough power

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literally everybody is swapping those poopy coolers out with stealth

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even with repeaters it has enough power

cursive drum
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First thing I’m doing tomorrow is making a Meteor at home with my F7A MK2. 2 Deadbolt 4s and 4 Deadbolt 3s.

uneven thistle
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Luckily we don't have to deal with the tiny S5 bespokes

steel sparrow
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looks inside the perseus*
a slightly bigger size 5

uneven thistle
lone bloom
cursive drum
humble anvil
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I keep forgetting why I don't like flying small ships

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Because other small ships can blow up small ships

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And there's like a million of them

cursive drum
heady escarp
lone bloom
steel sparrow
reef wind
lone bloom
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Kraken is just a better polaris

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Because bigger guns and glorified cargo hauler

reef wind
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Not even. Kraken is a mobile fortress you can land as needed. Roll out ships, troops, tanks, logistics and more. Plus it's got a train!

lone bloom
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Well everything you can do on a polaris too

reef wind
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Polaris is kind of a shit comparison in all fairness.

lone bloom
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except the train part

reef wind
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3 tanks vs 15 to 20

lone bloom
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I am not saying its the same AS the polaris, obviously its better in every way, except as its 'drake'

reef wind
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Drake is good

lone bloom
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I'm just saying its like the polaris xD

lone bloom
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Usually you don't even use one single tank

reef wind
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I do

lone bloom
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'usually'

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you're an expection then

reef wind
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They make nice counter to cargo haulers

lone bloom
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Do you really need a counter as a ground vehicle

reef wind
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Pop em on ridge near an outpost

lone bloom
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if you have a dual S8 front turret?

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Which will be very likely upgunned to S9

reef wind
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Different style of fun

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World of tanks vs world of ships

lone bloom
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I mean I would prefer the Kraken over the Idris too myself, but I don't like any of those capitals yet so far

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(Polaris being the worst one)

reef wind
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But think, landing your perseus on the kraken as god intended

lone bloom
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God intended to land it inside of a Bengal

reef wind
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Bengal overrated

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Too much upkeep

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Too little time

lone bloom
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But the Kraken isn't too much upkeep? XD

reef wind
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Not at all

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Bengal is about 120 or so for overall effort in terms of bodies. Kraken at most 25

lone bloom
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Most people struggle to even crew a HH

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Kraken is more than double that

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(and payment wise its not worth it at all so far)

reef wind
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This factors NPC crews but we'll see how it plays

reef wind
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I'm excited either way. Slap a perseus on the deck and a few support craft

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Deployable strike team

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Kraken being a home point

lone bloom
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Still hoping for a anvil kraken competitor

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Basically a spaceship version of an aircraft carrier

reef wind
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That would be preferable

lone bloom
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just a few changes and make it like 3x larger

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Also place a dual S9 on the front maybe also one at the back so its an direct kraken competitor

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Just as Anvil

reef wind
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Railgun carrier

lone bloom
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Nah thats covered by the Idris

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Maybe Beam Guns

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I mean thats also kinda covered by the Idris but not as turret

reef wind
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Anvil needs a ground behemoth tank

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I don't know why but it seems something they would do

lone bloom
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I mean they want to make ground behemoth vehicles

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I don't know why, or how but they want to lol

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I mean maybe they should make the ones we have rn useable...

reef wind
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I'll honestly take halo vehicle physics at this point

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At least those were solid

lone bloom
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If only the physics would be the issue

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I mean there is just nothing to do for vehicles unless its an AA

reef wind
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Tank has very unorthodox uses

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But otherwise yeah

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Not to mention terrain movement is awful rn

lone bloom
midnight crypt
heady escarp
midnight crypt
heady escarp
tawny fern
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i bought a reclaimer thinking i could use it for the event

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haha just kidding reclaimer docking port doesnt work with stations

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add it to the many reasons why perseus is best

humble anvil
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Perseus S9

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Imagine if it got 6x PDC... On that form factor the PDC would be firing all the time

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But I will say... The 2x S3 Shields are not enough in the current game environment

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It really does need a 3rd. And older ships need brought up

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I.e. Hammerhead.

heady escarp
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No one ever plays hammerhead anymore, it's just so badly nerfed and still needs a crew

midnight crypt
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AI blades will probably bring the hammerhead some use

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But I’ll never use the hammerhead. The ship just looks like it’s upside down with the bridge being on the bottom

lone bloom
heady escarp
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CatCoffee truth is most recruit via discord for play sessions like this

lone bloom
heady escarp
lone bloom
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And blocked with that the Event pickup location hahhhhh

heady escarp
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they should probably take a polaris instead of an HH

lone bloom
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Yeah i mean polaris makes bounties easy peasy lol

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Main s6 turret doesnt need that long to melt a HH

humble anvil
tawny fern
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Wow

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Incredible image of a perseus smashing through a javelin

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You love to see it

heady escarp
vast lagoon
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I keep forgetting the Pegasus "exists"

heady escarp
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there has been no updates about it for quite some time

uneven thistle
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It's not even coming to SQ42 anymore 😦

vast lagoon
tawny fern
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Is there a plan to designate targets for bladed turrets? I haven’t read anything about how calling targets for ai will work

crystal sleet
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We havent gotten anything new about bladed turrets other than what we already know. So far, we can assume they will target based on a priority based system. If we want to speculate on the functionality of blades, we could imagine different blades will have different target priorities i.e Blade A will target small ships first, whereas Blade B will target large ships first

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In regards for being able to designate targets for bladed turrets, perhaps the differences between blades will be the amount of targets you can designate at once, response times between designation and action, subcomponent priorities, accuracy and precision, and maybe even reliability and component health if you want to include engineering aspects

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There could also be different targetting functionality between blades too, like some blades requiring manual designation, some able to automatically designate based on a priority list mentioned before, or blades with a middle ground of both through the means to toggle between designation modes

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As a side speculation, i like to think that blade racks in ships will all have the same slot sizes for blades (the racks themselves following the same size convention as other ship comps), though you wont be able to swap out the racks for one with more slots for the sake of keeping things balanced (prevent capital ship owners to blade every manned turret).

The blade cards themselves will dictate how many cards you can install into the racks, some cards taking up one slot each, whereas others take up two. For example, a ship has 4 blade slots in its rack, each slot linking to 4 turrets out of 6. You can choose to either have 4 single slot blades with simple automated targetting but low accurate for a cheap upkeep, or you can choose to have 2 double slot blades with better tracking and reaction time for a more expensive upkeep and faster wear

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It can even go even further, some double slot blades only controlling a single assignable turret rather than a two at a time, but for way better blade functionality for an even steeper price

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I cant sleep hahhhhh

lone bloom
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you forgot also the blades that slave turrets to pilot

tawny fern
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Lol

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The reading is interesting

crystal sleet
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Thats a whole nother can of a different flavour of the same brand, but what i said above could easily apply to slave blades

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Maybe add whether or not slaved blade turrets can be used as eithee fixed or "gimbled"

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Like how in elite dangerous, ship weapons can either be fixed, gimballed or turreted

tawny fern
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Well

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That was all very interesting reading

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And i dont want to sound like im dismissing it

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Because it was very interesting

crystal sleet
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Nah is alg, i cant sleep ans have too much energy, think of this as just running around in a circle to burn energy

tawny fern
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But what is confirmed about turret blades? And as we probably know what cig says and what cig delivers can always change

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I’d imagine the information is pretty limited

crystal sleet
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All i can definitively remember is that not all turrets on a ship can be bladed

tawny fern
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Because im not sure what people were expecting out of flight blades, other than very minor stat adjustments

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Im sure someone speculated that the ship might fly itself

crystal sleet
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Flight blades atm appear to be a bit of a test on a test, seeing how people would react and deciding how they even approach blade stats all together

crystal sleet
tawny fern
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So is it fair to say PDC’s were a bit of preliminary testing for turret blades?

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Barring the whole power allocation thing that’s expected with turret blades

crystal sleet
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Yuh, theyre all the same pdc model and functionality too, so no need to balance it against other pdcs in the first place. Just focus on the base functionality, worry about variants later

tawny fern
#

Im not sure if i linked that timestamp correctly since im on mobile

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Oh yeah it is

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So in that video im pretty sure he says all turrets can be bladed, but i’ve also read how only remote turrets can be bladed

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That video was also 5 years ago

crystal sleet
#

I think i got the "not all turrets can be bladed" thing was from some group speculation a while ago lol, but yeah that sounds about right what he says in the video

tawny fern
#

Does he actually say all turrets? Implying manned turrets too?

crystal sleet
#

This was kinda around the time when the Perseus was concepted too which had the "as a fall back however, players can slave the manned turrets to the pilot" (paraphrasing)

lone bloom
tawny fern
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So it’s like, as a perseus fanboy, that almost sounds too good to be true

lone bloom
#

and also that we will be able to either automate them fully, or slave them to the pilot

tawny fern
#

So surely the drawbacks would be tremendous if we want to blade everything

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Surely, right

crystal sleet
#

Yeah, its lining up, but we cant tell if the puzzle pieces really are meant to fit

lone bloom
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like either 1 in total or like one per blade

tawny fern
#

Yeah, that would make sense

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I think

lone bloom
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Since the percy has mainly only ballistic bespoke it won't be a issue since she has either way very many energy pips

crystal sleet
#

Also wear and tear, more advanced blades wearing out faster because faster calculations

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Perseus, on paper and in our hearts, feels too perfect as a bladed ship

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Its crazy how many things seems to line up in favor of the Perseus

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Maelstrom, s8 upgunning, low theoretical crew reqs

lone bloom
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Manual torp reloading, manual ballistic reloading...

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4 additional PDCS

tawny fern
#

There’s also the idea that big ships must have multiple crew members to be effective. But as we’ve seen in recent years with the addition of pdc’s, and more ships having their turrets slaved to the pilot, we can make some assumptions about how cig wants to move forward with multicrew gameplay

lone bloom
crystal sleet
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Large cargo bay for either cargo or vehicles, small relative size

lone bloom
#

Could fully use the weapon power of the percy with either blades

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or like 1 crew member in upper front turret, and bottom turret is bladed to pilot

crystal sleet
lone bloom
#

I mean, depends how much stock ammo they have

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if they have like 600-900 ammo cap... you can just reload outside of an fight

crystal sleet
#

I wonder if the Perseus secretly became Chris Roberts favourite ship, ditching the connies

tawny fern
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There’s also the statement that the s3 ballistics are intended to be bladed, in the faq

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Oh i did forget engineering

lone bloom
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Basically larger PDC's just with the ability to remote control them from the bridge aswell if wanted

crystal sleet
lone bloom
#

Maybe

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I mean the connie became by now an extremely old design too

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Even 'too' old for the new RSI language

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Since new RSI language is straight up a thing between Comfort and Military

crystal sleet
#

Techwear, but for the military

lone bloom
#

While old RSI Design Language been closer to Drake

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By now its closer to a mix of Anvil and Crusader

crystal sleet
#

Even anvil has been moving towards a more streamlined or more comprehensible hulls, unlike the weird polygonal chunkiness of the connies

lone bloom
#

Connies were ugly either way

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outside and inside

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But I am also glad the percy has a cargo elevator instead of a ramp because ramps just cause issues rn

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and its easier to load

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Especially since they originally wanted to give it a ramp

crystal sleet
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They had a charm back then, but now its just hard to look at without feeling put off by how different it looks

crystal sleet
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Like the polaris ramp, just on one side

lone bloom
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Maybe, but that would'Ve been also shit ngl

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Elevator is just way more convinient

crystal sleet
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Taken up so much more space on the landing area

lone bloom
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well also giving the ability to just sneak onto the ship

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while you can't just go up a elevator

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Dunno if non ship owner/party members can even use a exterior elevator?

crystal sleet
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Nope

lone bloom
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see

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so steal safe

crystal sleet
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It counts as an external door

lone bloom
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While on a ramp you can just walk up while loading for example

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can't do that with an elevator

crystal sleet
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Elevator requires button pressing in any case, you dont need to do that with an open ramp, like you said, just walk up and youre in

tawny fern
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If you blade the rear turret it could just act as an anti personnel guard turret

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Just blast people with s8 ballistics

crystal sleet
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S8 scattergun for maximum anti personnel defence

tawny fern
#

Yeah there you go

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Really that rear turret is in such an awkward position for anti ship

crystal sleet
#

Like fifty 2 inch metal spikes getting launched from a tube

crystal sleet
tawny fern
#

Imagine you’re trying to steal a perseus and it detects an unauthorized person in the vicinity, and that gargantuan turret just swings around

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šŸ™ƒ

tawny fern
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Doesnt really look like it

tawny fern
#

Almost looks like a broadside design

crystal sleet
tawny fern
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So what about landing? Does the turret retract into the belly or are the landing gears/legs so long that it clears the turret?

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I mean the clearances already look pretty tight

crystal sleet
crystal sleet
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The same art also suggests the turret is hugging the underside quite closely too, since theres significant clearance, making it look like no turret is there. It might be that instead of the turret being on rails like the javelin main guns, the perseus turrets actually extend and retract like a constellation manned turret

tawny fern
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Looong legs

crystal sleet
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You can see the "02" thats printed on the armour plating

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Thos legs are adorable

tawny fern
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Or i guess elevation, depending on how you view it

crystal sleet
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Something to note however, the armour panels that flank the bottom turret has a sort of "lip" that bends downwards away from the hull of the ship

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You can kinda see it just below the black void with red lights, a strip of armour thats deflecting more light than the other surfaces on hhe belly

tawny fern
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I can kind of see it, it’s pretty dark, i’d have to look at the 3D viewer

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Oh that

crystal sleet
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It might be that the flared panel makes it appear that the turret has no clear sight

lone bloom
tawny fern
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Which possibly implies that the turret would extend

tawny fern
#

Or at least retract upon landing?

crystal sleet
tawny fern
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God it looks so good

crystal sleet
#

A better albeit still vague view of the angled panels

tawny fern
#

It almost looks flush

crystal sleet
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The ones by the docking collar

crystal sleet
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Not as detailed, but the same nonetheless if not similar

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The bottom one is a lot longer and somewhat a little less angled, but angled enough to appear to cover the guns

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Wait no the bottom panel also as the same red light, it can only be seen from a specific angle it seems

tawny fern
lone bloom
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(Still weird that the Perseus has only one docking collar while having symmetrically two)

tawny fern
#

Idk

crystal sleet
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Ok yeah, it extends

tawny fern
#

I dont want to make conclusions based on conceptual images

crystal sleet
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Honestly i think we were comparinv an artists render to an actual computer model, the computer render being altered to actually work

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Computer render being the last three images posted

lone bloom
# tawny fern

(That one should be more trustworthy than the artist render)

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Technical drawing > Artwork

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Because the technical drawing has to be accurate

crystal sleet
# tawny fern

The turret isnt too far extended either, so maybe the turret will just be fixed in place at that position

tawny fern
lone bloom
#

I mean we could easily answer that question with the existing 3D model lmao

tawny fern
#

So the rear turret can clearly point forward, the question is at what minimum distance

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Man this is so exciting

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I wouldnt be able to sleep either knowing the perseus exists

crystal sleet
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Without tilting nose up, id say around maybe 40-30m from the front. Cant back up the numbers because we dont have any solid numbers to use for trigonometry lmao. But the top turret should have enough depression to allow the ship to nose up and bring the nottom turret into firing view, basically eliminating effective forward engagement range for the bottom turret, due to the sloped bow

lone bloom
crystal sleet
tawny fern
lone bloom
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So it could shoot everything like 100+ meter infront of the nose

tawny fern
#

You’re practically scraping the belly

crystal sleet
#

So assuming the final perseus is still 100m, it seems that the true point convergence for the bottom turret actually is around 190m

lone bloom
tawny fern
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Lmao true

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Thats actually really good turret coverage, compared to some of the abominations we currently have in live

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Nice hemispherical coverages

crystal sleet
#

Perseus gonna be a true pocket battleship

tawny fern
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Well i mean

lone bloom
#

I mean

tawny fern
#

Yeah, pocket battleship is one way to put it i suppose

lone bloom
#

Everything 1 Perseus length away can be targeted by both turrets

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So basically 100 meters

tawny fern
#

So really good convergence

lone bloom
#

And thats just if its REALLY straight infront of the nose

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Asoon the percy will drift just slightly to the right or left I assume it will go very fast beneath 50 meters

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Because ... Dorito shape

tawny fern
#

Oh true

lone bloom
#

Just going to tokyo drift a Polaris

tawny fern
#

Convergence tolerances should ease a lot pointing the ship slightly to the left or right of the target

crystal sleet
#

Most players always try to keep their nose pointed at the target anyways, so shouldnt be too different

lone bloom
#

Oh god

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Imagine a fully pilot slave turret perseus

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Against AI

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Since the AI tends to just fly towards you in a straight line..........

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They're dead before they even get in firing range kekw

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Imagine how easy ERT's would be kekl And then also the ability to easily loot their cargo

tawny fern
#

Yeah i wonder

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Idris railgun is already like playing god

lone bloom
#

Just that Idris M costs like... 1.9K or something ? xD

tawny fern
#

Slaved main ballistics doesnt sound that wild

lone bloom
tawny fern
#

Also when turret blades officially release, hammerhead should be kinda nuts, if power allocation allows

#

Yeah thats also true

lone bloom
#

Well they also stated you won't be able to fully 100% blade your ship

#
  1. I assume that will be ship dependend because that wouldn't make sense on a ship with only like 2-3 Turrets (Starlancer... Zeus... Connie... Perseus)
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  1. I think they said something with like 60-70% of all turrets
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So HH wouldn't be able to blade EVERY turret probably

tawny fern
#

But perseus would?

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Oh

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You answered that

#

They also said the scorpius turret is designed to be bladed i think

#

When blades release it’s gonna shake up the meta big time

lone bloom
#

As I said, wouldn't make sense that this rule applies to ships with just a few turrets

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But the HH has many turrets just like Polaris,Idris, Javelin etc.... i do think there the 60-70% blade rule applies

#

but even then you can still also use NPC crew someday

lone bloom
#

For the big ships

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After... 13 years of Light/Medium fighter meta kekw

tawny fern
#

Yeah, geez

#

I mean, im on team caps vs caps, fighters vs fighters

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Fighters shouldnt be able to harm caps

lone bloom
#

They won't

tawny fern
#

Caps should be able to defend themselves from fighters

lone bloom
#

They kind of clarified already how armor will work

#

I think on the example of the javelin

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Size 5 weapons will still do damage, but reduced a bit

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Everything beneath will almost be nullified

tawny fern
#

Yeah, that just makes sense

lone bloom
#

So it still CAN do damage

#

But its so low that you can just ignore it probably

#

So speculating S1-S3 weapons might not be able to damage the percy

#

but S4 and larger will

#

Maybe S3 still for like 40-50% dmg

tawny fern
#

At least they might not be able to damage the armored areas right?

lone bloom
#

So the biggest threat for percy would be heavy and some medium fighters

tawny fern
#

In assuming there would be unarmored areas on large ships

lone bloom
#

I'm talking generally I do think the first armor implementation will cover the entire ship

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and not just some sections

tawny fern
#

Ah

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Hey that works for me

lone bloom
#

Maybe they will expand that with later updates that some areas are more amored than otheres (alias Warthunder)

tawny fern
#

My comfy compact ball of ballistic death

#

Warthunder has to have the most impressive implementation of vehicle armor in any game

lone bloom
#

Just wondering how the player base will react on that since, afterall, 13 years fighter meta that might change this year completely

#

I bet the people that swear on fighters will be extremely angry

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aka the almost entire PvP community

tawny fern
#

Yeah, well

#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

#

It’s only logical lol, fighters blowing up caps or even sub caps doesnt make sense

lone bloom
#

Yeah ofc but they want to

tawny fern
#

Fighter entitlement is real

lone bloom
#

Because otherwise they say mimimi Pay To Winn

tawny fern
#

Yeah thats a whole other gigantic can of worms

lone bloom
#

I mean since you can get (almost) every ship ingame via just playing......... its just pay to advance

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or 'pay to skip time'

#

'pay to skip grind'

tawny fern
#

Yeah look how many people nabbed a wikelo polaris by…playing the game

lone bloom
#

So the advantage does not last forever, just for a period of time til the first people start crafting or buying their own larger ships lol

#

And I mean you technically wouldn't even then need a cap to kill a cap

#

Eclipse Exists

#

Retalliator exists

#

Ares Inferno/Ion exists....

#

Just have to use your brain instead of just "haha i can outrange your turrets and just do spinning around you and keep shooting for 3 hours straight so you die and can do nothing about it"

#

But I guess many people got used to those extremely fast paced games like CoD where you barely need to think about anything and just 'run shoot run shoot run shoot' and most of them ignore the objective entirely

tawny fern
#

Theres no incentive for tactical play since it takes so long to kill someone

lone bloom
#

FPS in Star citizens is also the worst FPS I ever played

tawny fern
#

Lmao

lone bloom
#

Because of the extreme desync

#

Partially need to dump a full mag into someone

#

And they still kill you lmao

tawny fern
#

The amount of times i’ve killed someone and watch then fall to the floor

#

Oh wait they’re still alive

lone bloom
#

and they just stand up right back and kill you

#

xD

tawny fern
#

Ok now they’re dead

#

Oh wait

#

Yeah, incredible

lone bloom
#

I said it before and I will say it again

#

Worse than Battlefield 2042 Beta experience

#

by far

tawny fern
#

Hahahaha

lone bloom
#

I mean there they at least were really dead assoon they were on the ground or you got the kill confirmation lol

tawny fern
#

2042 beta made me and my friends collectively agree that game was total dogass

#

The amount of bugs in that oh man

lone bloom
#

Well its playable meanwhile but yeah

#

Till this day it doesn't feel like a battlefield

#

(Like - Battlefield 2, 3, 4 heck even 1 and 5)

#

Even tho I don't like to use WW1 or WW2 guns

tawny fern
#

I played with the biggest band of k/d whores with a couple people roof camping with charge rifles

#

With me as the lmg whore

#

1 and 5 were incredible

#

Well 5 was after they nerfed bombers killing literally everybody

lone bloom
#

Well, if you know how

#

you can still do it

#

Best update was the pacific update and i really liked those planes there with the rockets, made it kinda easy to target ground targets and also vehicles if you had bombs additionally

tawny fern
#

I stopped playing before pacific released

lone bloom
#

But sadly once again EA being EA

#

The first update where the game becomes good

#

they stop giving it updates kekw

#

Coughs in Battlefront 2

tawny fern
#

Last i heard hackers were in every other lobby in that game

#

Or heroes just making the game not fun

lone bloom
#

That only was the case for like a week

#

They actually patched that lol

#

Never seen a hacker since then

tawny fern
#

Well, on the topic, i’ve been getting trickled bf6 info, and i guess there’s a little bit of controversy regarding class identity and which classes can use which guns

lone bloom
#

Yeah saw that too, they want again every class to be able to use every gun again

tawny fern
#

I think recently dice announced they would allow 2 different builds

lone bloom
#

but the community said already 'nope'

tawny fern
#

Yeah that one

lone bloom
#

I mean I think the 'way' they currently develop the new one is great

#

Aslong they start listening to the community now

tawny fern
#

Personally i dont really care, all guns, restricted guns

#

I’m gonna be playing support lmg either way

lone bloom
#

I mean there is TONS of gameplay

#

already

#

Looks visually like a mixture of Battlefield 3 and 4

#

Just obviously with todays graphic standards

tawny fern
#

How much destruction is there?

lone bloom
#

Uh I think Battlefield 5 like destruction

#

I didn't saw yet like, fully destroying houses so just the foundation is left

#

But saw like whole corners of buildings getting completely ripped apart, or entire walls

#

Rumored also that they officially reveal Battlefield 6 next week

#

Including a open beta

#

oh nvm its tomorrow

#

5 PM CEST

tawny fern
#

Oh how about that

#

Yeah i dont really know what cig intends fps to be

#

The servers really just cant handle smooth gameplay

lone bloom
#

I mean

#

30 max server fps

#

And they don't even reach that

#

Just for comparison, battlefield 3 and 4 did run in its earlier days on 30 fps/hz servers

#

but even they did upgrade to 60 hz

#

nowadays they run at 120

#

So no surprise that FPS combat in SC is just straight up trash

humble anvil
#

Pray for a Perseus upgrade kit

#

Not an upgrade kit but a conversion kit

#

Ballistics are cool and sure they'll do great things since they're so big

#

But damn

#

50-70% reduction or more depending on shields I guess

#

Fucking rough

#

Really hoping that cope from the pipeline admin about Perseus hinting at Beam Kit actually manifests

tawny fern
#

beam perseus is real

#

let your dreams be

#

beams

humble anvil
#

Miku Miku beaaammm

#

Sugoi

steel sparrow
#

Make the twin size 8 into a single s8 laser

hollow remnant
#

Perseus railgun šŸ™

humble anvil
#

one way they could argue Perseus gets different turret configuration because it's S8

#

Unlike Idris

#

Where it's different was the nose mount or whatever

#

It's difference was the S10

#

Really hoping they give us options. Railgun Perseus would be Devastating lol

#

38.5k alpha min
77k Alpha Max

#

My math is wrong btw

#

I think

heady escarp
heady escarp
hollow remnant
heady escarp
#

true, 3 upgrades like the idris

#

we got perseus for 675,
Perseus with rail gun at 899
PERSEUS WITH A KNIFE 999
and
PERSEUS for PRAETOrIaNs ! at 1999

#

Lets not forget flight blades for 200 dollars...

steel sparrow
lone bloom
humble anvil
#

Llol

#

On Photoshop I resize the S7 by 50%

#

If release is that yummy imma bust

reef wind
#

Perseus with the dynamite on a stick

cursive drum
# humble anvil

15K DPS for 40-60 seconds depending on capacitor means 600K-900K DPM.

cursive drum
humble anvil
#

Yeah get them from Wiketroll

lone bloom
humble anvil
lone bloom
#

wdym

humble anvil
#

So you can have that money for a Perseus conversion kit

#

Duh

lone bloom
#

And I seriously don't want a ship which will get either way abandoned from me once I have the galaxy ingame earned .-. I want all my ships to have a purpose

#

and the SL Max/or BLD would be just a sitting duck at some point

lone bloom
#

I mean they did the same with the Idris and the new T kit

#

(even while the T kit is pretty shit and useless kekw )

lone bloom
#

@humble anvil

#

May I also note - why the hell is the tac only 5 bucks less than the Galaxy .-.

tawny fern
#

@lone bloom did you see the bf6 reveal

lone bloom
#

Yeah

tawny fern
#

šŸ¤ž

lone bloom
#

Kinda Dissappointed by the length of the video kekw

tawny fern
#

multiplayer reveal july 31st

midnight crypt
tawny fern
#

please please please dice dont fuck this up

lone bloom
lone bloom
#

"Created in engine - no gameplay" popped up

#

game trailer*

tawny fern
#

i mean

lone bloom
#

Inengine trailers mean nothing

#

I mean its frostbite 5

#

The same Battlefield 2042 runs on

#

For example, in the battlefield 2042 trailer they also showed voxel / terrain adaption if a helicopter crashes into the ground and stays as wreck there

#

While in the BF6 trailer there was a helicopter that crashed through a building and also did the exact same thing on terrain

#

But I doubt that will be a thing ingame

tawny fern
#

geez the 2042 trailer was 5 minutes lol

lone bloom
#

Yeah thats why I said I am dissappointed by the length xD

#

Because it did not show anything of value

#

So hoping for 31st

tawny fern
#

and open beta i think they said august 3rd

#

4th

#

well they didnt say, but i guess it's leaked

lone bloom
#

Yeah, was already leaked a week ago

#

that they want to go into beta very fast

tawny fern
#

cant wait for an absolute shitshow

lone bloom
#

guess to proof 'we can do it again guys'

#

or well a shitshow

tawny fern
#

lol

#

you thought 2042 beta was bad, check this out'

lone bloom
#

But I really hope its a actual open beta

#

Like - you don't get early access if you preorder

#

I would like to see two open betas - one soon so they can proof okey it is working and it isn't a shitshow like BF2042

#

And one like a month before release, with more/new stuff and THERE i would be fine if preorder has like 4 days prior access

lone bloom
#

BF4 defi

#

Which you have to charge and depending on the charge you revive someone with % HP or even can kill a enemy with it

tawny fern
#

is there any leak on gadgets?

lone bloom
#

Probably but haven't looked into it that much

tawny fern
#

anyways speaking of the galaxy

#

concept is nice but i hope the modules arent priced too ridiculously

#

nice little non combat version of the perseus

#

and by little i mean, same sized i guess

lone bloom
#

Because it gets outclassed by the arrastra in two modules (refining and cargo), apollo for medical and only left is the BLD module and soontm the rumored manufacture module which is in my view useless

#

Its only a good ship if its your 'starter' ship and can do everything without the need of having like 3 ships

#

But those 3 ships are better in their area than the galaxy

#

(except for basebuild)

tawny fern
#

hmm i heard a lot of excitement for the arrastra, i didnt know it also had a massive cargohold

lone bloom
#

about 600 ish Cargo grid

#
  • if you offgrid probably 1K
#

Galaxy has WITH the cargo module i think 512 SCU Grid

tawny fern
#

yeaaa

lone bloom
#

and without the module 64

tawny fern
#

and that's its own module, so thats literally all it gets

#

hmm

lone bloom
#

yeah thats why arrastra outclases 2 modules

#

The Cargo Module

#

And the Refining Module

#

Because Galaxy needs with its refining module still a dedicated mining ship additionally

#

AND a cargo ship

#

since it loses its own cargo

#

Arrastra can do it all by itsself

tawny fern
#

so the modularity doesnt really seem to be worth much in that case

lone bloom
#

Yeah pretty much

#

I will only get it mainly for the BLD Module

#

Sure - I could just go for the Starlancer BLD upgrade which will surely be way cheaper

#

Buuuuut the galaxy looks better EeveeFear

#

(and would have 6x S5 with blades slaved to PIlot ElmoRise )

tawny fern
#

oh yeah i forgot about the guns

lone bloom
#

yeah has 3x 2 S5 turrets

#

and all are facing forward

#

One is at the bottom front, and the two others at the sides

#

And lets be honest, It may also get 4-6 PDCs probably as buff additionally lol

#

I mean its larger than the percy

humble anvil
lone bloom
#

Also the upgrade from my MAX to the Galaxy (without modules) would cost me only 45 bucks with the help of @humble anvil kekl

humble anvil
#

and TAC went up like 45$

lone bloom
humble anvil
#

ya

lone bloom
#

I mean its the RSI Carrack basically

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Just.... better than the carrack in every way lol

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oh wow

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512 added cargo is nice

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And the cargo module would be irrelevant either way unless you want to carry vehicles - OR they make offgriding so painful for ships that its not a valid methode

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since it has 64 by stock

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(2x 32 grid in hangar)

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Also you technically IF you already have an galaxy don't need the apollo

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its overkill for the usage since apollo offers the exact same stuff - but galaxy medical has also T1 T2 and T3 beds

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crazy how rsi gets all the good ships

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isnt that crazy

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fuck no the meteor sucks

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robert space industries

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isnt that crazy

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well besides that

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I think the scorp also sucks tho

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Both variants

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Antares more than the normal one but both suck

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yep

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Also Aurora sucks

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and connie is a ugly flying snickers bar

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tbh

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I hate every ship in the game lol.

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Isn't the Bengal also RSI? xD

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i think so.. or maybe anvil

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bengal is RSI

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lmao

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except Perseus

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Its just the funny thing

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Literally almost ALL ships I do like

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Are still concept kekw

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Alot of ships okay are great, they're beautiful, and even sometimes fun to fly. but all comes back in the end that there's a thousand small ships and they can all kill eachother

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I was talking about the visuals

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meehh

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I bet when the Perseus releases imma quit the game lol

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I do need to disappear from anything Star Citizen for a week lol

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