Perseus Pals

[crystal sleet]

they can still get it, but itll be risky as hell

[lone bloom]

Or something like that yeah lol

Imagine you want to steal a percy because of not being able to buy it because you alligned with the unlawfull guild

Good luck with that one

[steel thistle]

yo i got 30k scripts im interested

[crystal sleet]

[This user has ignored you]

[steel thistle]

i finna delay the perseus by 18 months now

[crystal sleet]

-# fkn Warframe trade chat

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-bnp-corpus-stonks-gif-17500842

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-prisoner-cage-struggle-gif-26295980

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-close-to-one-thousand-wins-now-barton-a-thousand-win-streak-nearly-there-winners-achievement-gif-20803880

[crystal sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsA13bBtpo

POV- Youre in your hornet while going to defend your org station

[lone bloom]

Still one of the best stories in CoD

[crystal sleet]

fucking love the ships turning on their boosters

i wish we had something like that in SC, atmosphere escape assist boosters instead of using nav mode or after burners

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFcY7xLblr8

[lone bloom]

I mean Nav mode will be gone soon

[crystal sleet]

also this, if only the Idris had a functional catapault system

[crystal sleet]

replaced by quantum boosting right?

[lone bloom]

yep

[crystal sleet]

it cannot come any sooner

[lone bloom]

so every ship is kinda locked to SCM

Probably still being able to "boost" but nothing beyond that point without QD Boost

[crystal sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JEKNUUynIA the full mission

[lone bloom]

Which can be blocked by a Zeus MR, cutty blue, atares and mantis

Thats probably the only thing that may be annoying with the percy, being locked to SCM and knowing that thing will be slow

especially if you start from a planet

[crystal sleet]

that just means you gotta plan every move, as well as commiting to a flight plan

[lone bloom]

will literally become the reclaimer on orison pre atmosphere nerf xD

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-cat-brick-meme-gif-17369548627287092493

[steel sparrow]

can we have a Perseus thrown instead of a brick? (they are the same thing)

[humble anvil]

So it's treason then?

[steel sparrow]

wait what

I meant it's as sturdy as a brick : P

[humble anvil]

It's as sturdy as reinforced steel*

You fool!

I hope the Perseus has like a gazillion mass

To ram everything

But since this man wants to manifest brick energy, I guess we're fucked

[humble anvil]

I'll remember this when anything negative happens to the Perseus

[humble anvil]

We manifest. Atleast 1.33m HP. and only the thickest of armors

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-star-wars-traitor-palpatine-gif-7742711

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-spin-black-gif-14547778

[lone bloom]

Aslong it can still outmanover a polaris, we all fine

Aslong it can do that, i'm happy (and obv still has more HP than the HH but that will be a 100% thing)

[lone bloom]

forgot to reply to that one - yes and no - there are two variants one that can carry yourself and one that can also carry a vehicle

[humble anvil]

Hopefully

I would loveeeee if Perseus is locked behind Rep

😎

More exclusive

[lone bloom]

Honestly

I think the majority - if not every kind of military focused ship will be rep locked

Like for fighters like the F7A or F8 you will have to be private rank or such - for corvettes like the HH or Percy something like master, and for capitals (if they will be available there at all) general (or whatever the highest rep rank will be)

ALso guessing that rep farming will take way longer probably to increase playability without reaching the endgame that fast

[humble anvil]

Gross

[lone bloom]

Well you couldn't care less, with having a LTI percy, right?

Maybe they will do the same for other ships like larger cargo hauling ships being locked behind rep thats for hauling and such

[humble anvil]

Correct

I only care about the rep locked upgrade kits

Blueprints to make component

[lone bloom]

Master Rank for Military grade A comps

[humble anvil]

If the upgrades to make components better is not worth the grind and I'm not going to do it

Grinding a week for 2% efficiency

Big whoop

[lone bloom]

But what if they add to each other?

Like 2% per level

T2 2% T3 4% T4 6% T5 8%

(At least in terms of the Ship "Tier" level)

[round zodiac]

Forward speed or durability will be best I suspect

[azure fulcrum]

have you guys ever imagined a perseus that is a capital with everything upsized just size 12 guns or something

[humble anvil]

We have imagined everything

[azure fulcrum]

perseus bigger brother UwU

I can totally see them do it, it makes sense

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-18978923

[marsh zephyr]

It'll be too slow to ram anything moving

[grave canyon]

no

i like my perseus as is

it's not the size that matters

[grave canyon]

not if you shoot their engines off

[lone bloom]

or if its a capital ship

[humble anvil]

But if it's a capital ship it will have the heaviest armor in its class

Which means Idris armor but the size of a Polaris may be smaller

Is Polaris considered the smallest of the capital ships or is there one smaller

Or reclaimer is apparently capital like actually capital

HMMM

If it got upscaled to capital it would get capital shields and it would have two

Delicious

(please don't upscale my Perseus in that regard)

Already disappointing enough that it's going from 100 m to 115 m probably

[lone bloom]

its the smallest military

And also has the weakest armor for its class

(indicating that 890 and reclaimer don't have any armor ?)

[humble anvil]

Cannon fodder for our baby

[lone bloom]

lol

890 is larger

[humble anvil]

Dude wtf

The 890 dwarfs the Polaris

200k HP

[lone bloom]

I mean I get that it doesn't have 3 mil hp like the polaris

but maybe buff it to 600K or such ?

[humble anvil]

153k

Xddd

[lone bloom]

Lmao

[humble anvil]

Everything needs a repass

[lone bloom]

i mean that thing is close to the size of the idris

[humble anvil]

Literally everything

[lone bloom]

i still hate the layout of the luxury ships

890 literally a maze

[humble anvil]

But! Perseus should be released in a good spot as every new ship gets special treatment

[lone bloom]

600I (pre rework) also has a weird layout

[humble anvil]

All the old ships except the Cutlass and Titan are cooked

[lone bloom]

400I prob the only one luxury ship that has a great layout

well because titan and cutlass are still favourites of most players

(whyever the cutlass is still one)

(thing ugly)

[humble anvil]

It's gross

Think they got rid of the strut tho

So that's a w

[lone bloom]

the fact that it has not even a kitchen

nor bathroom

not even chairs except for the two at the ramp

[lone bloom]

that was only a issue on the red no?

and also only with female chars

Cutlass would been way better with the concept morphologis made

[humble anvil]

Not 100% sure but I know it was an issue for f chars in red

[lone bloom]

(and Gladius)

if a ship gets updated to gold stuff its always the gladius first lol

because of SQ

ngl i always forget how large the percy already is

placing it next to a reclaimer

yet it can park on a kraken

I really hate drake, but kraken still seems to be one of the best ships if you do something like mining or salvage operation with multiple ships or people

or to resupply a Percy with ammo

[humble anvil]

We're stuffing the walls with ammo boxes

[lone bloom]

Would depend for me if the loot on PVE missions will stay that shit or no

if yes, i will fill that thing up with ammo crates, if no i will do a 50/50 to have space for valuable loot

[humble anvil]

I'm going to assume it's going to stay relatively shit

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-with-captions-its-so-over-funny-hamster-sad-hamster-sad-animal-gif-25121828

[humble anvil]

Those materials in the future could be useful for Crafting

Probably will be useful

[lone bloom]

yeah but if i only need it for crafting

I won't take a fucking 32 scu box of scrap with me

[humble anvil]

But when you can straight up buy it for dirt cheap

Just do another Merc mission

Instead of wasting time younking it from the ship

BUT

If there's quality rating

Yoink the S quality

[lone bloom]

S quality scrap

lmao

[crystal sleet]

Id imagine the reclaimer having some decent industrial armour for protection against wrechs crashing into the ship,

[lone bloom]

Maybe Capital sized/classed ship doesn't mean it will get capital classed armor perhaps

Maybe the smaller non military capitals only have some kind of sub cap armor

Wonder if they will also add different kind of 'armors'

Like - that its something that gets variations like comps

Something like armor thats more resistent to EMP usage weapons but less effective against ballistic

same for more armor against ballistic but less effective against laser weapons

or soontm also stealth armor so stealth ships maybe get an actual usage

[lone bloom]

I can see us already needing apex valakkar fangs or and pearls to upgrade the percy to highest tier

"Tier 5 requirement: 50 Apex Valakkar Fangs, 20 Pearls, 100 SCU Quantainium, 50 SCU Gold, 2500 SCU Construction Material"

[humble anvil]

we're kinda messing around with storm breaker right now in the ptu

if you want to watch

[lone bloom]

Already seen it often enough tbh

But aint playing PTU myself since i don't wanna deal with the weird PTU -> PU behaviour once it hits live

[lone bloom]

(Also probably won't be used for anything org related anyways since I don't have any interest in doing those certs )

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1354544778112536797/480.gif

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I don't want perseus upscaled it would be sick if the perseus had a bigger brother tho

as it stands now perseus ain't getting capital class components pretty sure JC would've mentioned it at china bar citizen

[lone bloom]

well the bigger brother is supposed to be the polaris probably

[lone bloom]

I mean its a sub cap, obviously It won't get Capital comps

[azure fulcrum]

I want a big brother with big guns not that torpedo crap

[lone bloom]

Dreadnought percy

[azure fulcrum]

reclaimer has cap components 🤷‍♂️

[lone bloom]

Reclaimer is cap

literally almost as large as the polaris

And CIG also said every ship that has at least one capital component is considered a capital ship

[azure fulcrum]

I remember there was at least one subcap that had cap components

[lone bloom]

The only sub cap I know is the Hammerhead?

At least in terms of released sub caps

[azure fulcrum]

I checked all the size 5 ships apparently my memory failed me IDK where I got that idea from

yeah hammerhead doesn't have cap components either

[lone bloom]

Ik

(even while it should get buffed alot to keep up with the powercreep=

[azure fulcrum]

maybe it is one of the unreleased concept ships

it seems like no subcap is getting cap components.. that's sad

[lone bloom]

Maybe Naut?

[azure fulcrum]

I checked all 35 unreleased concepts lol haven't found it

pretty sure the odyssey is classed a capital ship because it has cap components but it seems like the smallest one in its class at only 140m

[lone bloom]

the carrack isn't cap?

ah it isn't doesn't even have Cap comps lol

That the mobile FPS arena (Starfarer) is slightly larger than the Percy is a scam

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I suppose its still a subcap

these are listed as subcaps I suppose

with the TAC being the smallest subcap

[cursive drum]

I thought Polaris was the smallest? How is the Odyssey any different than Carrack?

[azure fulcrum]

oddysey is the smallest cap ship whaddya talking about lol bris

[lone bloom]

In which world is the Herkules caterpillar 600I or Starlancer a Sub Cap

Weird lists

[azure fulcrum]

well I know CIG calls the TAC a subcap and its the smallest s5 ship so I would assume all S5 are subcaps according to the game data

[cursive drum]

I thought the Polaris was a subcap? Since when is Odyssey a Capital when its under the 150M Requirement??

[lone bloom]

[azure fulcrum]

maybe polaris was a subcap during development one point at time and it got upsized to cap?

[cursive drum]

Subcap is like, Nautilus to Oddyssey.

[lone bloom]

I would have said everything between the Percy (aka 100+) and Carrack is a sub cap

[azure fulcrum]

wrong I just showed you the proof

read

[cursive drum]

Yes, but Odyssey would surely still be a subcap?

[cursive drum]

Where?

[lone bloom]

Bris isn't known to read or care about proofs

[azure fulcrum]

scroll ...

like put your finger on your scroll wheel and then roll up

[azure fulcrum]

hope this helps

the index finger is the finger you point with

[cursive drum]

Ok but that is a fanmade wiki.

[lone bloom]

You are a fanmade wiki

[azure fulcrum]

as much as I'm getting annoyed by you, you might have a point? it only has cap shields lol and CIG never specifically said directly its a cap ship (that I know of)

but polaris is 100% a cap ship just do your own research for once

[azure fulcrum]

corvette-class capital

[azure fulcrum]

found the subcap that has a capital class shield

LOL thanks @cursive drum you're a genius

[grave canyon]

the distinction of sub-cap, cap, corvette etc is completely arbitrary and useless

currently there's no clear rules for what is and isn't a capital and it literally does not matter

until maelstrom and other things that are supposed to affect capitals are out it will probably be this way, only then we might have clear guidelines on what constitutes a capital, for now it's just what cig said 10 years ago vs today

[lone bloom]

Odyssey is a cap tho ?

[grave canyon]

by who's standards

[lone bloom]

CIG's

[azure fulcrum]

well apparently polaris is the smallest cap ship, its not arbritary because it means they have cap armor, cap components, they are limited with jump point size etc

[grave canyon]

even cig's own information on the subject would probably classify it as a capital one year, sub-cap next, corvette the other, military flagship the next, a holy destroyer the year after that

[azure fulcrum]

its not according to CIG look at their website pic I just posted

[lone bloom]

Odyssey holy destroyer variant when

[grave canyon]

it's completely arbitrary

[azure fulcrum]

I just told you why it isn't but ok whatever you say

[lone bloom]

I mean Reclaimer is Size Large aswell, yet they say themselfes its a Capital .-.

[grave canyon]

cig disagrees with you and says it's arbitrary

[azure fulcrum]

ok the website just isn't accurate then lol

[grave canyon]

it's literally bigger than a polaris so jump point sizes apply and has like 3 cap size components

[lone bloom]

Never been

because they never update the stats there at all

[azure fulcrum]

or maybe reclaimer isn't considered a cap ship?

[lone bloom]

It isn't bigger

[grave canyon]

or cig is just arbitrarily deciding which ship is what "class" right now because it doesn't matter

[lone bloom]

at least in length

[grave canyon]

by your logic it should

[azure fulcrum]

I swear this shit is so confusing there is no logic I can't fault anyone for getting it wrong

[grave canyon]

in length it's barely smaller, in height and width it's 1.5x

[lone bloom]

I mean if you include all that, its larger than a 890 xd

[azure fulcrum]

apparently it is arbitrary you're right afterall

[grave canyon]

arbitrary is what we call it when there is no logic or set of rules behind it

[lone bloom]

And the 890 is indeed larger than the polaris

[azure fulcrum]

I yield xD

[azure fulcrum]

exactly you've proven your point

[grave canyon]

for all we know by the time they have this figured out the hammerhead may be considered a cap

and the polaris a destroyer, the idris an ultra destroyer and the javelin a mega destroyer

[lone bloom]

Javelin being a mega destroyer lmao

whats the bengal and Retri then

[grave canyon]

mega+ and mega++

[azure fulcrum]

its CIG we're dealing with I just don't know anymore lol

[lone bloom]

So far I know Javelin is by lore one of the smallest fleet ships

in the UEE

[azure fulcrum]

so with that said, lets hope perseus gets CAP components

[grave canyon]

plus even if they do give "clear" rules and guidelines on what constitutes a cap ship, still it's pointless

[lone bloom]

It won't

[azure fulcrum]

I'm not so sure anymore

[azure fulcrum]

we're nearing close to release less then 5 months so its unlikely but not impossible

[grave canyon]

because the only thing that matters is what size components your ship has, how big it is (deciding what jump gates it goes through) and what kind of armor it has, so if you look at it a ship being "capital" is literally meaningless, capital is more of an extra tier of size for components, hangar metrics and armor

[lone bloom]

The hammerhead has no cap comps, not even the carrack has one and its the biggest sub cap 'lore wise' military ship

[azure fulcrum]

the information we got is all over the place it isn't set in stone what the components are going to be 🤷‍♂️

[azure fulcrum]

but oddysey does so yeah theres that

[grave canyon]

then a ship being capital or subcap or large changes based on if you're looking at straight up size, components or armor

[lone bloom]

We should just hope it gets a third shield

and won't be as squishy as the HH

[grave canyon]

i mean it's gonna get armor

[lone bloom]

Because the shields on the HH are a joke

[cursive drum]

…?

[lone bloom]

Yeah but I want somewhat safety before they scratch my paint!

[azure fulcrum]

it needs to be buffed anyway it can or else it will end up like HH useless

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/crayonmunch-gif-15827279450659787579

[cursive drum]

This is true. Haven’t they also said cap ships are “generally over 150M” or something?

[cursive drum]

I never argued that.

[cursive drum]

As always! I should add that to my name…

[lone bloom]

Well I hope for a HH hull HP buff to 600K HP and perseus being at 1.2 Million HP

[azure fulcrum]

everyone makes mistakes my dude lol

[cursive drum]

Doh, doesn’t fit.

[cursive drum]

Normal Destroyer?

[azure fulcrum]

yeah and the armor better be T H I C C

[cursive drum]

?

[cursive drum]

Did I mean Odyssey?

[grave canyon]

jesus christ

[grave canyon]

how are we supposed to know what you meant dawg

[azure fulcrum]

you said polaris but you meant odyssey... Bris works in mysterious ways

[grave canyon]

perseus not gonna need shields tho

light-medium fighters will be a non-issue most likely, heavy fighters are basically the only thing you're going to need shields against

[azure fulcrum]

its not going to have cap tier armor is what cig said lol

[grave canyon]

that plus secondary capital ship turrets and they will also help when engaging other subcaps

[grave canyon]

still i assume at least LF's will be a non-issue

[azure fulcrum]

xDDD

[cursive drum]

[lone bloom]

Ofc it doesn't need shields technically, but its better to have them still :p

[azure fulcrum]

IMHO they should just give it cap armor whatever they mean by that, I suppose it won't be as armored as an idris

[grave canyon]

we do not know how strong cap armor will be so it's basically meaningless

[azure fulcrum]

CIG doesn't know either its just word salad

[grave canyon]

yes sure they said something at some point recently but with maelstrom at least another year or two away i ain't believing that

[azure fulcrum]

its just who the hell knows they say a lot of things that aren't true

it's heavily armored lets leave it at that lol

[grave canyon]

my assumption is s1-s2 guns at least will basically be meaningless, not invincible to them but probably huge damage and pen reduction, s3 will also struggle a little bit but not as much, s4 barely any reduction and s5 armor is basically meaningless

[azure fulcrum]

something like that yeah

we need a armor tier system alright

[lone bloom]

The heaviest armor in its entire class*

[lone bloom]

I assume there will be No armor - light - medium - heavy lol

And they are different for every size class

[azure fulcrum]

for now xD

[azure fulcrum]

doesn't paladin also have heavy armor?

[lone bloom]

dunno

Don't know if they mentioned it but my guess would be yes

Since they want it to be a very heavy gunship

100% will be at least one armor class higher than the Redeemer

But why do you want to know anything about the Paladin if you are in the Percy chat? Paladin literally Mini Perseus and is pretty meh if you have already a percy

[azure fulcrum]

IDK where they said the focus is on armor but it was mentioned in the Q&A

the information is all over the place its hard to find stuff sometimes

you have to look on spectrum watch the behind the ships etc

[azure fulcrum]

because I'm comparing armor lol

couldn't care less about the paladin other then its similarities to perseus

[lone bloom]

I assume at least Medium Armor but my guess - same for percy - heaviest armor for its size class, since what else should have 'more' armor than a literal 'supposedly slow and heavy' gunship?

Probably the same game with Hammerhead vs Percy

Redeemer being in the HH position

and the Paladin in the Percy position

[azure fulcrum]

can't find any official anvil paladin video lol

[lone bloom]

Because there isn't

At least i never seen any video about it

[azure fulcrum]

where did you see "heaviest armor for its class" mentioned for the perseus?

[lone bloom]

They said so in a video about it few years back

[azure fulcrum]

because I didn't find it

ohhhh ok I believe you

[azure fulcrum]

cool very cool thanks

[lone bloom]

Guess it was a livestream

And someone asked what will difference the Percy from the Hammerhead

And they said something with the Hammerhead being anti fighter focus and using medium armor - since it doesn't need heavier armor for its job

But the percy needs heavy armor , and also lore wise being one of the heaviest ships generally - to browl against targets larger than itsself

Aka being able to take hits from caps

[azure fulcrum]

larger hmmm

lets hope armor gets implemented before or with perseus release

sure looks like it

[lone bloom]

I mean you have also to remember the lore (even if it rarely plays a role for game balance and they can change lore anytime they want to) - Percy was made before the HH the HH was made to replace the Percy

The percy had to its time NO shields because they didn't exist and relied completely on its heavy armor

and yet still killed two full vanduul destroyers that were 3x its size

in a 1vs2

[azure fulcrum]

I think CR on spectrum once compared it to a Ironclad Frigate

[lone bloom]

Knowing that a Drake ship that clearly has once again only a 2-3 cm hull getting any kind of armor other than light armor is still weird

[cursive drum]

Since when??

They fill a completely different tole.

[azure fulcrum]

is it the hunter the destroyer?

because it says capital-corvette

what the hell is SX size

[lone bloom]

Doesn't matter, they had the javelin and Idris to deal with bigger vanduul ships but none to deal with fighters, and the Percy was already very old to that time

while the HH was a brand new ship with shields

[azure fulcrum]

the idris and jav have a lot of turrets to deal with fighters I guess

[lone bloom]

But after the percy destroyed two vanduul destroyers alone - they decided to upgrade the Percy to todays standarts and reintroduce it to the UEE and civil milita force

so TECHNICALLY

Its the perseus MK 2

[azure fulcrum]

did the MK 2 update only give it shields?

oh wait it also gave the rover bay

cargo/rover bay I mean

[grave canyon]

i do not think that's the case

[lone bloom]

No

Guns were upgraded too

[grave canyon]

when did they say the HH replaced the perseus

[azure fulcrum]

nice lol

[lone bloom]

Seen it somewhere, either it was a lore video about the percy, or it was directly on the lore page or brochure lol

[lone bloom]

Probably also didn't had pdcs back then xD

Since the percy gets 4

[grave canyon]

i'm pretty sure hammerhead replaced something else that we don't have in the game currently

their roles are almost completely different

[azure fulcrum]

I just don't get why the UEE doesn't use this epic upgraded perseus

but only the civilian defense force

[lone bloom]

They do

[azure fulcrum]

UEE navy I mean

[lone bloom]

Yeah I know

[grave canyon]

they are both used for patrols but the percy was made for patrols first, the HH was made for anti-fighter screening and then used as a patrol boat

[azure fulcrum]

they do?

[grave canyon]

they do

[lone bloom]

Pretty sure we don't see it in SQ42 because simply the model wasn't finished there

you can't use a ship where the model does not exist

[azure fulcrum]

oh frack that makes me very excited to have hope to see it in SQ42

[lone bloom]

They may add it after the model is in there

somewhere in the background

Since its inengine and not a rendered cutscene

shouldn't be that hard

[grave canyon]

perseus gets developed like 400 years ago > they retire it > it kills two vanduul destroyers > they make better perseuses for the navy > they tune it down a little bit and put it in civillian market

[azure fulcrum]

yeah but perseus is not currently in use it says so on the sales page

that's what II was asking if its currently used by the UEE navy

[lone bloom]

Because its officially not released since the production of the MK 2 isn't done

[grave canyon]

yeah you trust cig's sales page

as we just found out when talking about caps vs subcaps vs large ships, a page that is extremely accurate

[lone bloom]

There was a video for uh IAE I think those daylie videos with that one dude

That went to the prototype facility

and there was a perseus

so its clearly not done - lore wise

Thats why they can't use it - its only a prototype in lore

[azure fulcrum]

yeah well the sales page contains perseus lore that's where I got it from

its not a stat it's lore

[grave canyon]

where does it say that

[lone bloom]

In other words: The plan of the UEE is to upgrade it and bring it back to the fleet - but they can't because said upgraded ship isn't done lore wise

Probably will do it like that its 'finished' lore wise once it releases

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[azure fulcrum]

yes so the UEE doesn't have it yet XD

[lone bloom]

yet

[grave canyon]

yes exactly

[azure fulcrum]

when is SQ42 supposed to take place?

[lone bloom]

before SC

[azure fulcrum]

2942?

[lone bloom]

so best chance is to see a old percy (they may just use the new model lol)

[grave canyon]

sure, it's not in use currently, it will be eventually

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/galactapedia/article/bEzXg6qGe6-perseus

In 2946, Admiral Ernst Bishop witnessed an aging Perseus participate in Operation Mandrake and requested that an updated Perseus-class fleet be put into production. After the creation of the Militia Mobilization Initiative, RSI expanded development to include a civilian version. The new Perseus, equipped with modernized weapons and a redesigned lower deck, was released in 2950.

[lone bloom]

Perseus is probably one of the most fleshed out ships lore wise

[azure fulcrum]

I hope they skip years in SQ42 straight to 2950

[grave canyon]

i mean the perseus was in service though

it wasn't retired from service, it was retired from production lines by rsi

because navy wasn't buying more

[azure fulcrum]

even in 2945?

[grave canyon]

i think

[grave canyon]

In 2946, Admiral Ernst Bishop witnessed an aging Perseus participate in Operation Mandrake

from galactapedia

[azure fulcrum]

holy shit so it is in service

mind blown

I never thought about it before lol

or looked at it that deeply

[lone bloom]

Sadly the percy in lore (the one that destroyed the vanduul destroyers) pretty much got scrapped afterwards

Since it got damaged beyond repair

[azure fulcrum]

yeah it's now in a museum I believe

[lone bloom]

Nah

Thats what Xero said

He hopes to see

[grave canyon]

yes

it's jsut the old ones

the percy lore is wild

there's the red ridge incident or whatever it was called

a percy pulls up to violent protests, everybody just walks off and goes home

[lone bloom]

I mean it would be cool someday for like an RSI headquarters to have a museum for older RSI ships - maybe like the first Zeus (shouldn't be that hard to make) or - well the almost destroyed perseus

[azure fulcrum]

ah lol

I'm glad you guys helped me get it correctly stored in my memory now

[azure fulcrum]

perseus very intimidating

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-4869195751936463478

"perry line"

Ironic

https://tenor.com/view/perry-the-platypus-hat-phineas-and-ferb-smirk-squinting-gif-21156768

[lone bloom]

Makes sense

Once you know from what the Percy Design was inspired from

Spoiler not a star destroyer lmao

[azure fulcrum]

I hope its pointy nose really does get to ram and tear up ships like the vanduul ramming blades

[lone bloom]

(from a shark)

(Where shark paint for percy)

[grave canyon]

we did get told that wasn't gonna be a thing

well, it wasn't specifically designed to ram at least

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I remember that

[grave canyon]

could still ram smaller things

[azure fulcrum]

hahaah

no doubt

[grave canyon]

like joe mama

[azure fulcrum]

or maybe similar size like the hammerhead it could ram

[lone bloom]

Pretty sure that was part of the Q&A

[azure fulcrum]

I mean yeah

[lone bloom]

And they said especially because of that picture

That this was only made for the sake of the artwork

And not to say it will be able to ramm

[azure fulcrum]

so it can't split a hammerhead in two is what it sounds like

[lone bloom]

Also - they bullied the HH multiple times with the Percy artworks

not even CIG likes the HH

so far I remember even the Tac has a artwork where it bullies a HH

even while a HH would absolutely fuck the shit out of a Tac

[azure fulcrum]

lol wtf

[lone bloom]

oh yeah

about the armor thing

it is indeed in the Q&A

[lone bloom]

It is heavy armor

lol

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I said that a while back

[lone bloom]

there was also another pic

[lone bloom]

But I do think since mealstrom is supposed to calculate mass

and ramming rn got patched like it depends on your ship mass

how much damage it does

It will absolutely be able to ramm ships

[azure fulcrum]

perseus gonna have insane mass because of its super heavy armor

[lone bloom]

But obv takes damage from it like every other ship

[azure fulcrum]

so it will be able to ram same size ships because they have lower mass probably

[lone bloom]

the only ship I know that is supposed to ram is the glaive and blade

[azure fulcrum]

but of course not without damaging itself lol

the bigger vanduul ships also have ramming blades

[lone bloom]

Depending on how it works rn, I think with full nav speed you gonna destroy a full HP HH

but your nose will be obv red

[azure fulcrum]

yeah it would be a desperate move

like iif you were out of ammo or outnumbered lol

[lone bloom]

if you're out of ammo its totaly on you ngl

Aslong percy releases with the feature its supposed to have

(manual ballistic reloading)

[azure fulcrum]

gonna stack that ammo high on the cargobay

[lone bloom]

I mean

Theoretically offgrid

you can have 400+ SCU Ammo

[azure fulcrum]

XDD

[lone bloom]

Not even joking

their official number is just based on grid and you can see in the concept artwork thats its the same shitty grid as on the reclaimer

[azure fulcrum]

if someone manages to penetrate you thicc armor and hit the pile of ammo lol

or a fire inside

[lone bloom]

if you take the percy into fleetviewer and 'guess' how large the cargo bay is (+ two floors) with the concept artworks

you can get there ca 500 scu in the first floor

[azure fulcrum]

XDDD

[lone bloom]

Double that for the second floor

minus catwalk

I just say 400 in case they shrink the cargo bay or i made something wrong while testing

even made screenshots

hold up

[azure fulcrum]

and you could have a buddy with an ironclad to carry 1500 scu of perseus ammo

[lone bloom]

or a kraken

percy can park on a kraken

[azure fulcrum]

lol yes

I guess there is no word on the auto rearm/refuel system for carrier ships?

[lone bloom]

all of them are 32 scu boxxes

[azure fulcrum]

I don't think they said kraken will have auto rearming like we have in hangars?

[lone bloom]

Nope there was only mentioning of the manual ballistic reload ability and that they are rn working on it and how its supposed to look

also

Auto rearming is still just a bandaid don't forget that

Everything thats automated rn will be manual at some point

refuelling, rearming, everything

[azure fulcrum]

so I'm guessing all ships will be able to reload externally somehow with a munitions port

[lone bloom]

yep

[azure fulcrum]

that's gonna be pretty cool

[lone bloom]

They explained that it will be like a mini freight elevator exclusively for ammunition

[azure fulcrum]

on the perseus

[lone bloom]

For fighters it will be external

for larger ships it will be most of the times inside of the ship and mainly in the cargo bay

[azure fulcrum]

doesn't the paladin also have that system?

[lone bloom]

every ship will have that system probably

someday

just like engineering

[azure fulcrum]

yeah lots of reworking ships again on the horizon

[lone bloom]

but ofc its easier to add on ships that are made rn and already can be planned to include that directly

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

Just like engineering once again xD

prob faster to add than engineering

since its more work to add those comps and animation for all the comps (especially since they're larger than just a simple SCU box or those small handheld containers)

[azure fulcrum]

maybe something like the freelancer mis can be more useful because you can internally mnually load the missiles and carry more in the cargobay

A2 can carry more bombs etc

[lone bloom]

kinda weird that the A2 cannot do that rn

just tractor beam that thing into the drop off area thingi

[azure fulcrum]

yeah it is because you can see the bombs

[lone bloom]

and make it clip like the torpedos

Still wondering how torpedo rearming is supposed to work on the percy tho

Since it doesn't have the rearm zone like the polaris

[azure fulcrum]

the larger ships are going to be potentially a lot more dangerous with the ability to carry insane amounts of ordinance

yeah exactly

[lone bloom]

They probably gonna move it somehow directly into the launch bay of the torps

like doors you can open on the tube s

and can tractor beam the torps inside of them

pretty much like on submarines

the only shitty thing I can think of is that the torpedo bay is in the second floor

while the cargo bay is 'mainly' bottom floor

and you have to get the torpedos in the second floor somehow in the first place AND i doubt they fit into the elevator xD

[azure fulcrum]

you'd probably want to stick ammo on the cargo grid when we get gravity for cargo the stuff will get thrown around and explode lol

[lone bloom]

or they add a direct reload port in the bottom floor that would be easier

like, a hole directly in the wall where you can shove the torp into and then a spindle behind it that rotates to a empty spot if available

[azure fulcrum]

yeah like a submarine

[lone bloom]

at least thats how I would do it

so you don't have to get them in the second floor in the first place

and shove them into the area beneath the torpedo launch room but directly into the 'torpedo storage' (?)

which is a 'unavailable' room for players to enter but exist to reload from the cargo bay

(prob easier to just make the cargo bay slightly expand beneath the torp room and make similar spindles like the Polaris.... just smaller and a lift on the walls that pull the torps up into the tubes)

[azure fulcrum]

yeah

[lone bloom]

would probably even look 100x better

[azure fulcrum]

definitely so

[lone bloom]

could place the ammo refill elevator there too

Like imagine you're looking from the middle of the cargo bay towards it in the middle a small passage to walk and shove ammo crates towards the mini elevator which is inside of the wall

to the left and right two spindles with the torpedos attached to visible torpedo elevators that pull them up to the tube animated everytime a torpedo gets shoot

and the spindle rotating so the elevator can grab the next torpedo

would 100% also fit in there since there is enough space between the hull and the upper torpedo room

[humble anvil]

If Perseus = Heavy

Then Perseus = Very good rammer

[lone bloom]

And Perseus winns again

Its simply just winning everytime

[marsh zephyr]

Why would you want to take your massive guns into a close combat situation like that?

The further away you are the better you can keep your opponent in your firing arc.

[lone bloom]

Depends on the enemy does it?

Everything beneath a Hammerhead will be able to get near you

[marsh zephyr]

That's why you would want to stay as far away from them as possible

So it will take longer for them to get behind you

The HH will probably be faster than the Perseus too

[lone bloom]

very surely will be

[marsh zephyr]

At the end of the day you dont really have any good target to ram

[lone bloom]

I'm not saying that you should wait to shoot at your target or rely on ramming them

I'm just saying that they will be able to catch you at some point unless destroyed prior

[marsh zephyr]

And you would never want to ram anyway

[lone bloom]

Usually not, but if the option is given, and its the best choice for that situation - take it lol

[marsh zephyr]

Because there's no reason to risk damaging your massive guns

It will rarely if ever be a good choice

[lone bloom]

especially if it ultimately kills the enemy

but not yourself

[marsh zephyr]

In a world where you have 4 s8 guns

If you're ramming things have gone terribly wrong

[lone bloom]

I mean tell that the aurora torpedos that destroyed every ship

(even while thats not possible anymore)

[marsh zephyr]

If you notice

They were cheap

Fast

And plentiful

[lone bloom]

and deadly

[marsh zephyr]

None of these qualities extend to the Perseus

They didn't have good armament either so they were really only good for ramming

The Perseus being heavy actively makes it harder to ram ships with too

Because it will be harder to change your heading

[lone bloom]

But either way, I agreed with you that it shouldn't be the first or second option and only in specific situation - so I don't get why there is a argument in the first place

[marsh zephyr]

Meaning it'll be really easy to dodge the Perseus

The argument is: if you think the Perseus is a good ramming ship

[lone bloom]

(I don't and never stated so)

but go ahead

[marsh zephyr]

?

You more or less agreed with the guy saying it was

[lone bloom]

It can ramm, I myself never said its a good rammer.

Rustle said that.

Don't put his words into my mouth

[marsh zephyr]

You celebrated the Perseus being a good rammer

Lmfao

Blocked

[lone bloom]

Please ping me where I specific said its a good rammer.

Lol, what a clown

Some people just arguing for the sake of arguing

[marsh zephyr]

The Perseus is cool

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1370950128046702592/S8PerseusPDCs.gif

[humble anvil]

Because if ship run into Perseus. That ship explodes, not Perseus:)

[marsh zephyr]

That means the Perseus is resistant to being rammed

Not that the Perseus is good at ramming

(an active player in a moving ship)

[lone bloom]

You just saw him blocking me for agreeing with him, don't even start

[azure fulcrum]

ramming is a last ditch effort where the captain goes down with the ship and the crew evacuates for epic cinematic rammage and EXPLOSION

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-explosion-cats-kaboom-gif-5543609305179444322

[lone bloom]

just as seen in the Squadron demo gameplay

Wanting to nav jump the javelin into the damaged kingship

fucking doing the holdo manouver

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-hyperspace-epic-thelastjedi-awesome-gif-10751608

[azure fulcrum]

that's the stuff we live for

[lone bloom]

(still stupid to this day at least in the star wars universe)

[azure fulcrum]

and perseus is going to be able to do it

[humble anvil]

If Perseus is heavy enough it will split the heavens

Stg watch is get a Perseus varient for the same price but it's called RSI Helios, no Armor, but S8 Beam spine mount, and S8 Beam guns

[reef wind]

Sometimes I really do wish I had whatever it is that Rustle smokes cause god damn lol

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-blitz-large-beam-railgun-gif-26550294

[lone bloom]

He Smoking the exhaust dust of the Prototype perseus

Youre welcome

[lone bloom]

tbf hope the bridge is a lil bit closer to the hull

so it appears larger

also connie cockpit = heresy

[humble anvil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1lbu21k/2_things_about_the_perseus_i_bet_you_didnt_know/

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-of-hearts-helena-bonham-carter-queens-anger-royalty-gif-17830871

If the percy has similar struts

i'm gonna riot

[humble anvil]

There's nothing new here

Just Copium

[lone bloom]

1. The rail thing won't work

Like, brother, its a 90 degree angle

how xD

2. still doubt there will be a way directly from exit to bridge because the turret still blocks the elevator option

I mean its still okayish, makes it unboardable still

Just compare the boarding possibility to the Hammerhead, front docking collar, middle section on both sides you can't controll at the same time two personal elevators

and ontop of that in the back the freight elevator

literally 4 entrance points in 4 different hallways/rooms

(and one of them is directly next to the bridge)

Meanwhile the Percy has only one singular entrance point with docking collar, freight, and personal, makes it very obvious where boarders come in if there is a boarding action

[humble anvil]

45°

[lone bloom]

the bottom one yes

but directly behind the turret is a 90*

[lone bloom]

+1 year concept stage

still coping that the sound is also ingame

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

Lol right

Who knows what they've changed

[lone bloom]

also that rail wouldn't make sense either way

like the firing arc would be the same

maybe even worse since it would be between the engines

Maybe the thought process was that the turret goes up there in a 'sleeping' position or while landed, so they can put the personal elevator there

[humble anvil]

Ye

[lone bloom]

but obv would have to .... make the rail different

aint no way tha thing will go on a 90 degree angle rail

[humble anvil]

Hear it out

Its s uffed, they can do space magic

But

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-space-magic-gif-14255718

[humble anvil]

Reckon it'll get redesign to not be 90 degree or

[lone bloom]

hope so

[humble anvil]

Cut all together

[lone bloom]

well or make the edge rounded

so its still kind of a 90 degree thing

[humble anvil]

They add a hump, it sucks but

[lone bloom]

but its rounded so then it would probably work

but rounded wouldn't fit to the design language of the percy

[humble anvil]

We'll have to wait and see

Hopefully they can give us a elevator from bridge, to exit

It would be very very very very nice for me and others but not necessary I guess

If it has that feature, it will be very op

[fluid plume]

The block the turret is sitting on probably moves with turret, turret 180’s then slides up to get tucked between engines for when the turret is stored

[lone bloom]

Maybe, but if they want to add the Personal lift there they have to Do something with the turret

[uneven thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1121113616926638131/1370950128046702592/S8PerseusPDCs.gif

[uneven thistle]

[humble anvil]

@lone bloom People saying how the Idris sucks the load because of the ramp

Meanwhile our Percy it's gets an elevator

OHM NMMMMMM

F****** nerds

Getting s*** on

Ughhhh I'm gonna

[lone bloom]

never seen yet the ramp lmao

[humble anvil]

Idris ramp?

It's the same problem as the C2

Uneven terrain and that s*** hits everywhere

Bro look at our concept model interior

Oh my God it's so good

Look at the elevator at the bottom of the ship

[lone bloom]

wdym hits everywhere

[humble anvil]

Bro it's so big

[lone bloom]

You mean like glitching into the ground

[humble anvil]

I mean hitting rocks causing the ship to bounce not conforming with the ground evenly

[lone bloom]

or doing the jiggle thing like the starlancer ramp if you hit it with anything

lmao xd

Prefer elevators over ramps either way especially for cargo

[humble anvil]

Idris is f*****

[lone bloom]

does the Idris even have a tractor beam at the ramp?

[humble anvil]

Just another w for the perseus

[lone bloom]

L if not

[humble anvil]

I don't think it has a tractor beam

I'm not sure

The Idris*

[lone bloom]

Would be funny

But Elevator especially for ships that are quite high and not ground leveled like the C1 or such

or Zeus

Simply are better since you don't have to 'lift' up your boxes

It simply reduces the way to the cargo area

Making loading faster

also less risky your ship gets stolen and someone sneaks on it while loading

since that can only happen with ramps pretty much

[humble anvil]

All I know is

We got so much off-grid room in our Perseus

Holy f***

We're going to stack this f***** to the moon

Look at all that vertical space

Oh my god we're going to stop 64 SEU boxes vertical

Stuff*

Going to put it in long ways at the cargo elevator and then tilled it and raise it in

Set that b**** in there vertical

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-10687007590642998367

[lone bloom]

Not like I told you that already months ago

[heady escarp]

is that the cargo area of perseus?
if yes, then we can probably do at least double the 64, if not more?

[lone bloom]

My guess is still 400 SCU offgrid.

Unless they shrink it

[heady escarp]

hopefully they wont bug while we take off and hit each other

[lone bloom]

Depends

Usually only 'dedicated vehicle areas' cause that

If its normal floor they shouldn't move that much

[heady escarp]

thats scary, I dont want to fly with explosif cargo

[lone bloom]

There is only one explosive cargo outside of xenothreat event so far I know

Detratrin ... and thats a event cargo xD

[heady escarp]

then again, do you think that they made it look big for hauling vehicules in instead of cargo?

[lone bloom]

It is made for a Ursa Rover + Cargo

Thats why its thats large

But if you aint taking a rover with you got plenty of space for extra juicy cargo

[heady escarp]

oh. that would be good too
does the perseus have a medical bed in?

[lone bloom]

no

[heady escarp]

then nursa I guess

[lone bloom]

pretty sure a storm would fit aswell

But guess depends highly on what you wanna do xD

[heady escarp]

hopefully some news soon

[lone bloom]

if you aint doing anything ground stuff you don't need a vehicle there

[heady escarp]

tbh, I want to fly as a menace with my friend, exploring the galaxy , pratically beeing a daily driver

[lone bloom]

Well it will be my daylie driver as well, but I know I aint doing any kind of ground missions except for event stuff - or cargo - So I wouldn't need to carry all the time a rover with me xd

[heady escarp]

true

[lone bloom]

Unless I know prior that I will do anything ground related

[heady escarp]

I mean at most. we could get a bike inside, and do merc related ground stuff with it

[lone bloom]

Still hoping we will be able to 'drive' with tanks and such or rovers into destribution centers at some point and do those cargo steal heists

well a bike or two wouldn't even steal cargo space

could just park them in the hallway xd

[heady escarp]

yeah

I would be a bit mad if they fail to deliver perseus at november

[lone bloom]

IAE is november?

[heady escarp]

umm should be? i dont remember

[lone bloom]

I mean latest news is that its end phase of greybox

so its pretty much towards the finish line

would be weird if they won't be able to

since the model itsself is almost fully finished

[heady escarp]

then they say; sorry guys. you were waiting for perseus? TOO BAD Youll get the MERCHANTMEN

[lone bloom]

The Merchantman which is stuck in Whitebox for years now

[heady escarp]

yeah

[lone bloom]

Meanwhile Percy went from Concept to whitebox to end of greybox within 5 months

probably will be done next month assumably or towards being finished fully

[heady escarp]

if they really wanted to, they could do the project of merchantman within less than half a year if they focus on it

[lone bloom]

They could, but would require many other shops to get delayed

I mean they explained why the merchantman takes so long / especially generally alien ships like Banu

[heady escarp]

at this point, I would prefer the others to be delayed over merchantman, I mean that ship has been delayed for 10 years

[lone bloom]

Its not even getting worked on rn for over 2 years I think

[heady escarp]

about that, last meeting irl in germany they said why

[lone bloom]

since the entire team that did work on it, quit

[heady escarp]

they said" over the years the original team that worked on merchantman isnt here anymore, and each time a new person gets assigned to it

they quit

for now they dont even have a complete team for it

[lone bloom]

Well that just reconfirms what they said years back

[heady escarp]

that its a bait ship?

[lone bloom]

They pretty much also said alien ships especially such big ones take literally forever to model

[heady escarp]

tbh alien ships looks cool

[lone bloom]

since almost except for smaller parts in those ships is unique and has to be modeled completely new

while others have shared assets and can be copy pasted

like the Polaris - Perseus - Zeus - Galaxy

If you finished one - you already are halfway to finishing the other 3

meanwhile the Merchantman doesn't offer anything in terms of that

[heady escarp]

yeah perseus looks copy paste of zeus but with bigger weapons

[humble anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[lone bloom]

Its supposed to be like the polaris interior wise sadly lol

Since Zeus Interior is way better

[heady escarp]

they do look the same

[humble anvil]

Zeus Interior > Polaris

lol i wish it was this though

unf gonna be polaris

[heady escarp]

zeus is amazing inside, ive spent months playing it and honestly it was a good daily driver

[lone bloom]

I mean I said that already 100x times but the polaris uses the Torpedo Bay room

Of the Perseus Concept

xD

and its the only room that looks good

[humble anvil]

Zeus would be my daily flyer as well

but it has no guns

[lone bloom]

it has...

but shit ones

[humble anvil]

i fly an andromeda lol

[heady escarp]

the mk exploration is mid, I got no idea how the MR will be

[lone bloom]

1/4 of the firepower

and with way shittier caps

[lone bloom]

I had pledged for it - and ccued to something else since the firepower will stay the same

[heady escarp]

andromeda was amazing, if not for the cockpit I wouldve stayed with that ship, but
||PHOENIX HAS A COOL INSIDE||

[lone bloom]

and its even losing a shield

compared to the ES/Explorer

If the MR would had something like 2x S4 and 2xS3 pilot controlled then I would have stayed on it prob

[heady escarp]

2X S5 wouldve made it best ship at that price point

[lone bloom]

Or that

but it only gets a second manned turret

and EMP/QT Snare

turret is useless without AI crew or blades

so the only additional thing is the EMP for PvE at least

[heady escarp]

im unsure if AI crew will come before perseus release or after

[lone bloom]

Went with the Starlancer Max (soon hopefully BLD) so I have 4x S4 at least - and a something good looking ship at least interior wise (connie just straight up ugly)

[lone bloom]

AI crew won't come anytime soon probably lol

AI Blades more likely

[heady escarp]

do you think they gonna put it in store too?

[lone bloom]

Since they aint hard to implement since we already have those as 'PDC's just not as upgrade model for manned turrets yet

[lone bloom]

Depends if they learned their lesson from the flight blades

[heady escarp]

funny thing is that flight blades werent even worth it

unless for competition thingy

[lone bloom]

3% upgrades gg

[heady escarp]

which 99 percent of players dont even bother with

[lone bloom]

only good for PvP

And most players don't bother doing PvP

[heady escarp]

I agree

[lone bloom]

But AI Blades are great for PvE

Making ships which would require huge amount of crew prior playable (hammerhead, Idris, Polaris...) - and some other ships with less crew requirement almost fully soloable (perseus for example)

[heady escarp]

polaris with ai blades would be amazing

[lone bloom]

Perseus most likely the biggest ship someone should go for if they don't have that many friends or active friends in SC that are willing to gunn turrets or play engineer

At least in terms of combat

[heady escarp]

honestly I like perseus for how not as big as the other ships like polaris and idris and jav
but also dangerously armed, so Im never gonna be disappointed doing pve or occasionnaly defending myself pvp

as for polaris, oh God.... I keep running in corridors each time, takes me a whole day, cant imagine those who play idris

[cursive drum]

I enjoy running in Corridors. It reminds me how big my ship is.

[heady escarp]

im sure you do

[lone bloom]

I mean I myself prefer big ships, and we all know the percy will grow in size (10-20 meters) sooo yea

But I also know that even larger ships will most likely just stand around doing nothing because I don't have the people to crew it

[heady escarp]

if it grows in size,
im sure of 1 thing
it will grow in price too

[lone bloom]

every ship does

after release

[heady escarp]

you think 800 would be?

[lone bloom]

I mean it also got confirmed buffed already

S7 -> S8 cannons

+4 PDC's

[heady escarp]

S8 canons are the funny thing

can they be used by pilot tho?

[lone bloom]

its rn 675, right?

Probably 750-800 yeah

[heady escarp]

yes

[lone bloom]

no

Unless someday with AI blades

but the PDC's are automated and the two dual S3 turrets are also automated

So there is that

[heady escarp]

AI blades will shoot better than me anyway !

[lone bloom]

so you may be able to do some combat even fully alone

with the total of 6 automated turrets

[heady escarp]

doesnt sound bad

I feel bad for hammerhead people

[lone bloom]

Yeah hammerhead is bad

needs a full rework ngl

[heady escarp]

they kinda killed it with each nerf

[lone bloom]

and the interior is the worst interior of all ships

(ignoring the Starfarer)

[heady escarp]

I saw starfarer,

its like living in cyberpunk rat sewers

[lone bloom]

Mobile FPS arena

[heady escarp]

honestly they should bring in new stuff soon

like new types of gameplay

[humble anvil]

its possible top turret will get slaved to pilot unless manned

just saying

anything possible untill released

[heady escarp]

that would at least give something for pilot to do

other than flying

the torpedos are still s10 right?

[humble anvil]

hopeful for upgrade kits as well. with IAE possible we'll get more blades

S5

[heady escarp]

ah

[humble anvil]

torps are 20x S5

[heady escarp]

S5

umm, honestly

if I use them ill destroy the ship

It will cost a LOT

to rearm

[humble anvil]

yeah im hoping for an upgrade kit that removes the torps and replaces with a spine mount

add a S8 Beam cannon or railgun

[heady escarp]

oh like idris?

[humble anvil]

mhm

i wouldnt be surprised if they lock the 4x PDCs, and even the S8 upgrade.. behind a upgrade kit

lol

[lone bloom]

60K for all 20 torps

[humble anvil]

some even think we're going to get S9

[heady escarp]

the question would be how much

[heady escarp]

really???

thats kinda good

[lone bloom]

3K per torp

[humble anvil]

Apparently there's hints at S9 in the files but idfk shit

just repeating what ive been told from my 'leaky' boys

in their private discords

[heady escarp]

S9 On perseus??? unless they smoke weed and want to make it a capital ship killer

[humble anvil]

could be an upgrade kit, who knows

[heady escarp]

S9 weapons will definitely hit hard even capital ships

[humble anvil]

there's apparently hints of Beam weapon for Perseus as well

but again, the only source is 'trust me bro'

untill this thing is released its all speculation

[humble anvil]

want my opinion?

[heady escarp]

yes

[humble anvil]

S9 is crazy for the form factor, but it would quite literally make the idris and polaris squeeze the Perseus

there's no other ship that can punch those two

unless you have 20 fighters

and there will come a time where 20 fighters wont do anything against them

so there needs to be a puncher

[heady escarp]

so if they do it, it will be problematic overall?

[humble anvil]

They could make it s9, guarantee penetration

doesnt mean the alpha will be good

[heady escarp]

oh the penetration

[humble anvil]

rip straight through armor

S8 will basically rip through armor anyways

lol

[heady escarp]

alpha, im not sure when it will be released, but it should be at least a few months later if we are lucky no?

[humble anvil]

alpha damage*

[heady escarp]

ah

sorry

misunderstood

more penetration for perseus would be good

[humble anvil]

do i think perseus will get S9? No.. Do i think it needs S8? Yes. as of right now its getting S8