Perseus Pals

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Starlancer build sucks

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Literally asked that earlier in the chat

if i should

do that

but otherwise its 72 bucks - without module

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i cant wait to finish this perseus man

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If they would finally announce the banner winner I could go for it since I could melt the winner ATLS Geo and reduce those 72 bucks by 45

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i need to get these ccus out so i can focus in on what i need for arrastra

rn ccugame is just pulling whatever makes sense and i cannot comprehend wtf is going on rn

[lone bloom]

Pretty sure there won't be a Carrack Warbond till IAE no?

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correct

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so you have 6 months of waiting either way

xD

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It doesnt matter much, it'll bne available at IAE, and Ironclads will release

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maybe

there is no talk about ironclad at all still

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so either or. if i have to use store credit i will

well its drake

we know about corsair?

i dont think so

it just kinda popped up

or the cutter

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were both not insta release ships without concept?

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ya

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yeah Ironclad isn't? xD

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btw remember prison thing

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its bugged?

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went to prison, got out, still have crimestat

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told you

xD

https://tenor.com/view/why-wont-anybody-listen-to-me-stan-marsh-kyle-broflovski-kenny-mccormick-south-park-gif-22283471

Well you can hack it away maybe dunno

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-perseus-hammerhead-ram-gif-17374513556486374363

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@humble anvil and, how goes the crimestat?

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cleared it

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It actually worked? lmao

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after some fighting

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I mean there are always PvE Enemies at those stations

I myself never cleared crimestat, and don't even know how it works

Just know you need a Tigerclaw from grimhex and go to a security post

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1369802022949490718/SmashPass.gif

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i think the best can do at this time for the chain is $300 melt value xd

only need the ironclads to come out, or Warbond for M2 and Carrack at IAE

but still pretty good imo, was fun.

What did you think of the Phoenix?

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Well its great for PvE but only because of the S5 didn't notice that much of the PDC ngl

and i mean connies are pve meta because of said S5

Also, in terms of thinking about Galaxy, may make it dependend on the current giveaways if I should win anything (currently think there is one for the TAC, Asgard and Tonk and still waiting for the LTI Golem announcement who won) if i may win one of those I may upgrade my SL to Galaxy but its not worth for me for 72 bucks to upgrade to it lol (In terms of melting said giveaway ships and use them to upgrade)

Even if it means losing now the warbond abilities from the Paladin/tac/Guardian

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Would be an easier choice if they would've finally announce the winner for the banner contest but they don't for some reason

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the giveaway ships might be CIG supplied

so they have 0 melt value

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CIG supplied on erkul, a small (27K subs) youtuber and a 100 subs (RslashSC) ?

I doubt they would care about such small content creator xd

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Drake day I think

Hmm

Caterpillar likely

Unfortunately can't really squeeze more in

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1374522890023600208/pocket.gif

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i fixed it

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Fixed what

Oh

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1376171241114832927/20250525_070409.gif

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Also misunderstood the CCU chain thing Max -> Galaxy would be 84 bucks to upgrade and not 72 - 72 would be the savings

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@humble anvil Caterpillar warbond

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hmmm

another 250-300 area ccu

i dont think i can do anything with catepillar

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Nope

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awh man cant wait to finish this bloody thing... truely

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https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

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its just a bit annoying

having so many chains

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Thought you only have two?

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while yes i want the arrastra

there's almost a 3rd

i need to get this shit cleaned up lol

because i didnt understand ccu game earlier so i have alot of one off things that i dont have anything connecting to it

[lone bloom]

Well you get cleaned the arra chain and perseus chain up at IAE or not

Since both will be available

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ye

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Perseus is only Carrack -> Perseus left or did you go with the ironclad route?

ANd arrasta dunno where you are xd

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speculating that ironclad will go up from 450$ to 500$
and assault to go from 535$ to 585$

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so you sitting now on two ironclads or what xd

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two

[mint stratus]

i think it will be more then that the c2 is 400$ just for 100$ difference being able to double the cargo capacity plus having 3 tractor beams aswell plus having a open roof hangar door seems kinda illogical for that price difference

[agile tinsel]

if you hold onto the chain until the ironclad releases before buying the ironclad assault to carrack upgrade, then you will see some amazing savings

all you need is a carrack to perseus upgrade to lock in the price

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wouldnt be a good time for me if it went above and beyond it

[mint stratus]

why not just buy the upgrade and keep it until the ship releases like i did ?

[lone bloom]

Its not for the ship

Its for CCUing to Perseus and Arrastra

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the problem is, if it goes uppity, way past the price for the carrack, then cant ccu

and i can also see CIG putting ironclad into those price points so we cant ccu to the carrack

[mint stratus]

ahhhh ok sry my bad yeah that would put you in a though spot

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this is speculative if ironclad went up 50$ each

they could go 60$ each but CIG might as well squeeze the 5$ to keep people from ccu'ing

[lone bloom]

question is how much did ships went up at release that size prior?

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cant ccu to Arrastra from assault if it goes up 50$ each 😭

lets look at the Hull C

350$ to 500$

but that was substantially under price

[lone bloom]

so it could go up way higher perhaps than you think xD?

[agile tinsel]

it's always a percentage

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its got what. 1.5k scu of cargo?

[agile tinsel]

15-20% is normal

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normal got i guess 1.3K

assault 1.1 or 1.0

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*whistles

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nvm

normal got 1.536

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iron could go to 540 if 20% bump

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and the assault got 1.1 at least that was correct lol

would that be bad or no xD

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if Ironclad goes to 540$ thats GOOD

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Sounds like it would be good, at least for arra

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really good

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would skip the carrack

lol

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wait

yeah if ironclad jumped to 540$

thats huge #1, but... but

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carrack is 600

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It would put it in line with a WB Carrack

wb carrack is 560

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well 540 to 560

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but would also put arrastra into a good spot too

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depends

arrastra warbond is 525

you would need to go for the 575 normal pledge

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doesnt always have to be warbond xd

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via store credits

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ye

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how stupidly expensive the perseus is wtf

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i also picked up every cheapest ccu with possible upcoming warbonds for the concept ships

lol

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675 while being way smaller than the arra

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Arra will go to the moon as well

Onboard refinery, s3 laser heads

lots of cargo

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remember that the S3 may be even just temporary

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*whistles

its drone based aint it

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Cannot recall anymore where it was said

but that those would be also upgraded to S4

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gyad damn

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to crack "bigger" asteroids

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yeah

wow

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Not the huge ones like the orion

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holy smokes

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but bigger than mole

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Mole is s2 i thought

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no

Mole is S3

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ah okay yeah

thats what i was going on about

Arrastra has a size up on the mole

which is 👌

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And since Arra is the middle thing between Orion and Mole... xD

Like you want huge mining and everything on one ship but not a capital

also in the video it was said Arra will be probably the biggest mining ship that will still be able to go into atmosphere

and land

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im ready

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Since the orion can't

yeah the paint is great too

wasn't it also a concierge paint?

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yea

the concept paint

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May pick up a arra paint and perseus paint

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I mean perseus pretty sure aslong there is one single good looking one

still don't like that one that much

xD

And since I will get Perseus I can use the paint day one

https://tenor.com/view/meow-dancing-cat-cat-dancing-meow-meow-meow-gif-14608759981751543562

Wonder what Ironclad will get for paints

because flying brick

https://tenor.com/view/scourge-thor-ragnarok-my-stuff-gif-14269794

(not official or leak skin, I made that lol)

I really hope btw they don't make the SL BLD that expensive because its BLD, since I went not with the galaxy CCU now

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Galaxy the size of Arrastra

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yep

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man

multi crew gameplay

🤮

oh well

claim times gonna suck but is what it is

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Still doubt you will have to deal alot with multi crewing

outside from combat

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Behold... My Fleet

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Unless they make it absurd annoying that a fuse can pop every few minutes or stuff

The perfect triangle fleet

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Ye

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Literally only big ships lmao

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-hippo-mottomotto-gif-2800813249166631130

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Maybe if other ships come out with a good Aesthetic i'll rethink life choices but

legit;

Pewpew, basebuilder, and everything else ship

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The fact

That the most expensive one in that fleet

is the smallest one

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and its going up

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oh right yeah surely will go up to 750

or more

where is it now? 675?

I may grind ingame for the Galaxy after the Arra, simply because of it looks

I mean - wait

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tf is with reliant kore having anything weird

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just look at that difference

They even have an TV in there

xD

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drugs?

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800$ easy

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according to the stats, its a drug

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But do you get it for the prior price then? If it releases there?

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yeah i get it for what i pay for it now

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but if it releases the price goes up

so how? xD

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already have the price locked

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or do you already have an carrack / Ironclad -> Perseus thing

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locked in

yeah, worst case scenario the ironclads dont release then i have to use store credit

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone bloom]

so you only need the carrack lol?

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mmmm... kind of

but all those ships will be available IAE

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was about to ask for the arra, but that will come either way maybe in 2-3 years XD

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yeah lol

tbh perseus might even be a citcon ship

which is like a month before IAE

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Maybe

wait

how did the polaris release?

did it release Cit or IAE

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iae i think

yes IAE

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wasn't there a weird thing that people already had it prior

dunno anymore

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like the TAC

was flyable patch day 1

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Yeah but the patch was at citizenscon yk

Maybe that was it, people who already had it were able to use it

but others had to wait for IAE

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im gonna have to melt the phoenix lol

i like the ship but out of SC atm

xddd

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lol thought thats your fleet

where comes the phoenix from

xD

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its a holder until perseus

then its gone but will prob get rid of it again soon, despite it being really good

drop back to andromeda

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I mean didn't notice the pdc last time at all doing anything

But may be because of its position

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i picked up all those concept ships and it ate so much store credit

pdc does stuff, its helpful xd

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Wonder if galaxy and arra will get pdcs

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galaxy is civilian so prob no

and arrast prob not

best case will be able to blade the turrets

Galaxy : 3x2 S5 Weapon Could see them upscaling to quad S5

okay thats a little much but e

it has 2 computers so should be able to blade all the turrets

Arrastra : 3x4 S3 Weapon . has enough computer to blade all turret

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I could see them slaving two of the dual S5 to the pilot honestly

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yeah

prob

and then making the manned turret quad s5

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or at least the one front turret beneath the nose

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ye

beautiful with the newer ships, the cockpit is more in the middle of the ship

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or more in the back

way better than having them pretty much everywhere on every ship on the front lol

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think what i'll do is get the f7c mk2 back

or the MX lol

gonna go buy this shit in game lol

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https://tenor.com/view/rsi-robert-space-industries-rsi-galaxy-rsi-ships-cig-gif-4864728429085438872

PoV Galaxy

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picked up 2 more ironclad store credit ccus incase they go to the moon so my arrastra is a bit cheaper

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So you got now 4 ironclad ccus or what

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2x iron and assault. So 4 total

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https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-but-wtf-dog-wth-gif-18128750

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If they don't work out I just melt them later

Same goes for all the concept CCUs

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Croberts would be proud

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It's store credit

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I mean store Credits were spent money at some point, right?

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Yea

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I'll def be done after These few bits

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https://tenor.com/view/detective-pokemon-gif-14437525

So your fleet is just ironclads now

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For the ships I want yes

[crystal sleet]

Ship of the Year

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mmm

the finale

@lone bloom just realized i didnt have a giftable pulse for you so had to do a thing. :>) But its good now.

you actually can throw shit in buyback, buy it with real money and it will become giftable lol

crazy

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Why would i need a pulse

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-huh-confused-meme-gif-3282660700962977407

[crystal sleet]

Mini "stealth" shuttle to use form your Perseus

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When S0 Stealth comps

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I would more likely call it anti Valakkar manned missile

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https://tenor.com/view/dont-fire-the-torpedoes-fire-the-torpedoes-homer-simpson-submarine-the-simpsons-gif-20636298

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Honestly waiting for TV Torpedos/Missiles

If you did play battlefield 4 you know what I mean

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Some people srsly, like whats the point in that comparison in the first place?

They have literally nothing in common

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if we're assuming that they would be used in a similar manner, then the carrack would obviously win lmao

[tepid wasp]

For people like to click, like and subscribe!

[agile tinsel]

carrack isn't a combat ship, so the only way that comparison works is by looking at amenities

more cargo, better rooms, better medical, better hangar

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Yeah stupid comparison to beginn with

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oh yeah, and you pay $200 more exactly because that's what it offers over the TAC

[tepid wasp]

I read 'stupid' comparisons in this channel all week!

Its for engagement.

Wait for the Perseus release there will be videos comparing it to the Polaris / Idris .

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I mean those are at least still combat focused

A comparison between a Kraken vs Perseus would be that kind of level

[tepid wasp]

Not even Perseus focused, the convos are off topic and subjective.

To call them stupid is a bit extreme.

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lmao @humble anvil Carrack and Perseus warbond

Looks like the risky way with the ironclad lost

[solid anvil]

they both fly

checkmate

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yeah i ended up getting it to secure the bag.

Mate telling me that assault may not come

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I mean I told you so to

but nobody listens to me

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ironclad might but the assault may not

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https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-michelangelo-youre-not-listening-to-me-listen-tmnt2012-gif-18749011

Well because assault has no use yet

why would you bring 4+1 Nova anywhere

But that they do a carrack and perseus warbond at the same day is sus ngl

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all need is a warbond M2

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why M2 lol

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OR

the ironclad releases

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So you still sitting on your ironclads now in speculation that it releases and may make it cheaper than the Carrack and Perseus warbond together?

I mean the current carrack and perseus is -95

But I also don't know anything about CCU so fair

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i got a hull D to Carrack, (pointless), and an Assault to Carrack. then the follow up is Ironclad to M2, is what i need

and using speculation that Ironclad will go up in price, i wont have to buy the WB M2

besides that... its filling in the spots that will release at IAE

or possible other savings wherever

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https://tenor.com/view/patrick-inner-machinations-of-my-gif-5040640

me rn

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TLDR:

Closer to your perseus

will have it at IAE

[lone bloom]

And your Arra?

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that'll come, in time

hey

if the ironclads release and go up before arrastra. i eating good

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https://tenor.com/view/pixelbandits-lotr-lord-rings-meat-gif-7398681212587459935

(PoV when Perseus releases)

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IAE will be guarantee perseus

owo

[lone bloom]

I mean its confirmed already

Or at least planned for IAE

Still guess Perseus will be an Meta ship for 2 Players for PvE combat

Unless there will be at some point a ship that does exactly the same stuff the perseus does, but is soloable (MAYBE the Merchantman because dual S8 (maybe S9) for pilot)

But BMM is either way in a weird place because once it gets worked on, then not again and now it may be post 1.0 lol

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Idris sized ship

Hell nah

We cope with Perseus 4x PDCs

And possible AI blade turrets at release

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1369802022949490718/SmashPass.gif

Me watching some Idris vs Idris videos or Polaris vs Polaris - meanwhile the pilots in pretty much every case not using all their energy pips....:

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[lone bloom]

Also only 1 pip to engine should be considered a crime

Especially in larger ships

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Why?

[azure fulcrum]

if PDCs won't be able to attack fighters in the future the 2x dual S3 bladed turrets are gonna be hella useful

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Mhm

But every other ship will be able to blade something but ye

Those turrets should have that tech pre installed or operated remotely by Copilot/aux Operator

[lone bloom]

They are either way extremely usefull

I mean, if they are like PDCs.... they will be very deadly considering their aimbot tracking of ships

Just still worried about the turret in the back

The top turret is great but the one in the back may have the same issue as the phoenix PDC because it gets blocked by the engines

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It'll cover the ass

[lone bloom]

The cheeks must be secure

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From the light fighters shooting lasers at it's ass

That turret will do God's work

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fuck I can't believe we're only 4 months away from perseus release

it's coming boys and girls you better believe it

we might get a sneak peak at shitizen con what do you guys think?

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Well if it would have released ILW we would already have it

[azure fulcrum]

??

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If the copium of rustle would have been true

Ilw Finale drop (didnt happen)

[azure fulcrum]

usually with concept sales they update us on the progress every now and then

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Honestly doubt we are getting a sneak peak there

More like a full on video

[azure fulcrum]

unlike assguard which was kept completely silent

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I can see that happen

[lone bloom]

Well there are many instant Release ships

Cutter was one

Zeus

Now asgard

[azure fulcrum]

oh wait shitty con is october 11th and IAE is november?

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Meteor is also only known by name and class

Yep

[azure fulcrum]

fuck so it is safe to say we won't get any status update until then

because we're way too close now

[lone bloom]

Depends

They can always do a inside star citizens

I mean they made one for the Pioneer also last month(?)

[azure fulcrum]

behind the ships?

hmm I hope so

[lone bloom]

They also had one for the BMM showing the progress

And also for the polaris

Pretty much for any bigger ship thats worth talking about

[azure fulcrum]

with the upgrade in weapon sizes announced at bar shitizen I'm just eager to know what else has changed

there must be other changes, size interior etc

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Meteor might be my daily flyer

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https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-you-speak-heresy-warhammer-40k-what-did-you-say-don't-say-that-gif-3570587536222968742

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Perseus for my straight into the flames and fire

[azure fulcrum]

how long ago was that?

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Galaxy for muh base

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I remember the BMM one was years ago

[lone bloom]

Like, uh, a year?

The one were they Showed white Box interior

Before they stowed the bmm again

[azure fulcrum]

?

the earliest one is 2 years ago

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Guess its that

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yeah I've seen that one

almost 3 years

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Yeah there is one from the polaris just months before release

Last month from the pioneer

Dont See why they shouldnt make one on the percy or and ironclad soon

Especially after officially saying that there are changes

From concept Till now

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Sounds like i dont even have to go for the sl bld to get the L drone build tower /j

Still coping for T3 med bay or at least dedicated armory

I mean even the sl Max has an armory, and isnt even a combat ship

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Perseus?

It's a gunboat, not a drop ship

[lone bloom]

Sl Max is a freighter

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But a medbay would be nice 🙂

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And has a armory

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You got a point

[lone bloom]

A armory would make more sense on a gunship

Than on a freighter

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Ye

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Not like i would mind the slmax to have one since its my only pledge xd

Hoping the bld also keeps that one

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1376171241114832927/20250525_070409.gif

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M2 is a freighter too and has an even bigger armory

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M2 is a military transport but

Yeah

Has like 12 jump seats

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Its just a heavier gunned c2 tbh

Hm

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Ye

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Has the carrack a armory?

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Fk if I know

That ship is shit

[lone bloom]

I cannot remember it having one

Military Explorer my ass

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It's probably milita contracted

Not so much a military explorer

Just like the c2

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I mean it was used by the uee

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Hauler but was contracted

Ye

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Has the galaxy one on concept?

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After all they get the government contracts

Huh?

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Just wondering because its the same class as the carrack

But newer

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What about Galax

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If it has a armory

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Idk tbh

[lone bloom]

Do you even look at ships before buying them

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The only one I have without a shadow of a doubt is Perseus rn

And all I know is Galaxy can base build but not at release

And Arrastra can mine n refine

[lone bloom]

It will not be there at basebuild release*

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Inb4 you need someone standing by the refinery otherwise it stops refining

To click buttons

[lone bloom]

"Yeah just sit there for the next uh 12 hours"

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They're updating it idk how

For refinery station

[lone bloom]

They have to reduce the refining time by alot lol

[humble anvil]

Think they will. Probably cut the refined prices too

[lone bloom]

Not done any refining but know it can take up to a whole day

[humble anvil]

The more you have the longer it takes

Uhhh

[lone bloom]

To make ship refining usefull they have to reduce it to Minutes

[humble anvil]

I did like 190 SCU of Argo mole in one shot and it took 36 hrs with the fast option

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's like salvage head

Get 32scu of ores, ship starts processing it, taking idk 10 minutes?

And has to get pulled out

[lone bloom]

Just make it General often used Material is instant and depends on how fast it can be stored else where (like salvage)

And more rare Material like Quant needs 2 min per scu

Pretty sure it will end up either way like salvaging

That someone has to press manually the Button that it poops out the refined scu containers

[humble anvil]

Sounds bout right

I sleep now

[pine root]

Made a new one

[cursive drum]

Yousa in big doodoo now.

https://tenor.com/view/darth-jar-jar-gif-3062122846964429584

Those 2 are not related at all.

Definitely…

[humble anvil]

The fucking stick

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1376171241114832927/20250525_070409.gif

[lone bloom]

Calls Ship to hangar....

Hears a few seconds later a ship explode

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[humble anvil]

[solid anvil]

This gif gets me every time

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/so-quiet-why-so-quiet-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-12263842

[heady escarp]

our perseus cult sect is waiting in silence

[steel sparrow]

let the bullet fly

[crystal sleet]

We are gathering more numbers to bolster the Grand Fleet ranks

[steel sparrow]

me trying real hard not to get a second perseus

[azure fulcrum]

that's actually not a bad idea you can cycle between 2 perseus to skip reclaim timer

[amber crest]

Or, just defeat the enemy

[lone bloom]

That would imply you are Losing a perseus in a fight

https://tenor.com/view/general-zod-heresy-man-of-steel-superman-destroy-it-gif-25934938

[steel sparrow]

How dare u think the Perseus would falter in the anvil of war

[lone bloom]

But you were the one that thought about a second one in the first place

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-12-emoji12-cat-stare-stare-cat-uhh-gif-9567425571520721039

[steel sparrow]

So me and bro can violate the enemy harder🍆🍆 🫃

[crystal sleet]

Already building up a second proper chain, i can guarantee a complete chain once novemer comes around

[sullen seal]

they both offers the same important commodities :
medbay, snub hangars, cargo, rover garage, some firepower, turrets

which are necessary for something like exploration gameplay, even tho the TAC is not ment for that, its good at it

I wanted the carrack for exploration but it's way to chonky, the TAC is a good alternative, no other ship has all those commodities at the same time, it's basically (on this pov) like a mini-carrack but more nimble, so a better solution

[lone bloom]

Just that the tac wont have any ability to actualy do Exploration once that gameloop exists

[sullen seal]

I don't need to have a radar turret, I won't do exploration for scanning, I will do it for the wonder of discoveries for myself, landscapes etc

I think this is the here the difference between an exploration ship and a pathfinder ship

[lone bloom]

Well just flying around can do pretty much every ship for hours

Taking an Aurora then

[sullen seal]

nope, I need range, commodities listed above

[sullen seal]

this

[lone bloom]

Okay, Zeus ES.

Usually you don't need a snub hangar, neither medbay since you aint fighting, rover fits, cargo and have firepower and a single turret lol

[sullen seal]

no med bay, no rover bay, no snub hangar

[sullen seal]

I need a snub, i want a small scouting ship, i will not scout with a big slow tac
I need a medbay cause i will have fights on ground with npcs
I need a ship capable of fitting my MTC

i know people can do without, but i don't want to

[lone bloom]

So, you make it more complicated than it has to be? got it

[sullen seal]

i make it as i would enjoy it, cause i play to enjoy the game
my choices, and i'm not alone like that, some people too wants all of that, hence the TAC being perfect for that, aka the mini carrack

end of discussion

[lone bloom]

Also - Polaris has now main turret slaved to Pilot, hope for Perseus getting the top turret slaved to pilot guys

[tepid wasp]

The Perseus might be too complicated for you

[lone bloom]

Because of?

[tepid wasp]

hope for Perseus getting the top turret slaved to pilot guy

[lone bloom]

Polaris got that treatment, why not perseus?

Literally most of other ships got that treatment a few patches ago lol

[tepid wasp]

What was the primary function of those other ships?

[lone bloom]

Mining, exploration, combat, salvage lol

So, whats your point now?

[tepid wasp]

#1121113616926638131 message

[lone bloom]

?

Might be more likely too complicated for you, if you think the Perseus isn't a part of said "primary function" list

[tepid wasp]

The Perseus being part of a list of reworked vehicles?

[lone bloom]

You asked for their primary function of said "reworked" vehicles, combat, aka the same primary function as the perseus.....

Which also has "no" pilot guns, yet.

Like the other ships on that list prior.

[tepid wasp]

You asked "how was this complicated for me?"

[lone bloom]

And I just explained it to you, no need for thanks

[lone bloom]

So I ask again:

[tepid wasp]

It was answered above, this ship might be too complicated for you but thats ok!

[lone bloom]

So you don't wanna bring any arguments, and only wanna be rude? got it

[tepid wasp]

All perspectives are welcomed here (i think) for the Perseus

[lone bloom]

Just that you seem to not bring a perspective lol

[tepid wasp]

Multi crew battleship is a workflow I look forward to with the Perseus, great for PvEvP and general cursing

[lone bloom]

So, you're against ships that size getting pilot controlled weapons because of multi crewing?

[tepid wasp]

#1121113616926638131 message

[lone bloom]

Its a simple yes or no question, and you do only that lmao.

Brain gymnastic

[cold spruce]

I'll likely be soloing the perseus even though the engineering update will make it a pain

[lone bloom]

I assume they want to give every ship some kind of pilot controlled weapons (wonder when HH gets that treatment too) so they are to some degree soloable, but still bad for PvP if not crewed

Since they reduce the amount of ships without pilot guns significantly

[cold spruce]

They did advertise the auto controlled turrets too which can be switched to remote with a crew. On top of PDC's too

[lone bloom]

Well, sure, I mean its also confirmed that someday with AI Blades you will be able to slave manned turrets either way to the pilot

[cold spruce]

We'll find out when the perseus comes out anyways but fingers crosses

[lone bloom]

If AI Blades are till then a thing

Perhaps the slaving guns to Pilot is just a bandaid till then

TIll there is an actual modification that does exactly that

[cold spruce]

Autoturrets are classed as AI blades I think which they did advertise for this ship

[lone bloom]

Dunno if its actually classed as AI Blades by that directly

But I am not talking about the two smaller turrets that are automated by stock on the perseus, I mean the main turrets

Because of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpurmw03-KI&t=428s

Weirdly enough, announced in the same year as the Perseus

[cold spruce]

Ahh

Might have a watch in a sec

[lone bloom]

it has a timestamp

The important part is just maybe 20 sec long

"A manned turret you can man it with a human, and if you don't have any human friends on board, you could hire a NPC or could use a blade to slave it to the pilot seat or could use a blade to automate it - its the same for remote"

[cold spruce]

Ahhh

Fingers crossed we get crew soon though, that'll be cool

[lone bloom]

So Perseus might have 2 AI Blades by stock for the two dual S3 turrets, but you may can still put the actual buyable AI Blades into the main turrets - just like in any other ship like descriped

And Pilot slave them, or let they do their own thing

[cold spruce]

Next year's going to be fun then

[lone bloom]

And since Polaris a combat focused ship also got now its main turret slaved to pilot, just like many other ships that had no pilot guns prior, I assume its a bandaid for most ships till AI Blades are there

Assuming if there aren't AI Blades till release of perseus, perseus might also just get one of the two main turrets slaved to pilot temporarily till AI Blades

[cold spruce]

So perseus could be a do-able large solo ship

[lone bloom]

Just like the Polaris is with 4.2

At least for PvE

[cold spruce]

I'll likely be doing pve and exploring tbf

[lone bloom]

But some people like DrHaunteo seem to simply have a hate towards AI Blades or giving pilots a weapon in the first place, but cannot bring any arguments why not xd

[cold spruce]

So solo players we need it like me

Sounds sad but a lot of players struggle getting a crew (like me)

[lone bloom]

Even Orgs will need it in the end, sure, not for a perseus, probably also not for a polaris

But an Idris, Javelin, or Bengal.... good luck to crew that without blades or and AI Crew

Even with large orgs

[lone bloom]

They probably do that because of that, I mean afterall so far I know 80+% of the whole player base are solo players most of the time

[tepid wasp]

Its similar to multiposting vs. single message posting, the Perseus might be too complicated for you.

[cold spruce]

I just want to have my own big ship and have fun with it really. Atm it's hard to get a crew for my ship because most like to be in their own ships

[lone bloom]

Thats the general issue of SC lol

[cold spruce]

Mhm :D

We definitely need AI crew

[lone bloom]

Some people may bring always the argument in MMO's you also cannot run raids solo (well some can but whatever) but I don't really see that comparison to ships lol

For me its a difference between operating a ship, and having to fight extreme strong enemies

[tepid wasp]

I also agree, I find the SC comparisons to traditional MMO's extremely weak.

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1369802022949490718/SmashPass.gif

[crystal sleet]

so apparently you can control the Polaris s6 as a pilot???

i thought it was a joke

wtf

[lone bloom]

Nope

not a joke- its in PTU

Its just bugged rn, but you absolutely can pilot control it

[crystal sleet]

istg polaris owners are gonna start usinig it as a superheavy fighter

[lone bloom]

Wait till they decide to do the exact same to the perseus

[crystal sleet]

at that point its clear they want to take teh easy Elite Dangerous route

[lone bloom]

Probably, might be also a bandaid for till AI Blades are there and you can slave turrets either way to the Pilot

[crystal sleet]

yeah probably, but is the s6 turret even bladable?

[lone tundra]

All turrets are.

[crystal sleet]

ah thats alright then

[humble anvil]

smash

[marsh zephyr]

Why do nerds think the Perseus will be effective against fighters?

[crystal sleet]

They played elite dangerous for too long

[marsh zephyr]

No no. A heavy gunship with s8 turrets and token PDCs will be able to defend itself against a heavy fighter

[crystal sleet]

"What do you mean i cant kill fighters in my heavy anti large ship gunship? I kitted out my anaconda with engineered repeaters and turreted engineered laser beams to kill dangerous threat conflict zone fighters"

"Why cant i do the same in star citizens?"

[marsh zephyr]

no no no I just need to do a mega broadside TM and theyll all get 1 shot

ezpz

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-sby-skill-issue-troll-shitpost-gif-27552582

[steel sparrow]

Imagine when Malstorm is added and we can actually tear the bridges off of Idris and such with big booms

[crystal sleet]

Just snipe each remote gunner before nailing the pilot console, bricking the ships controls

[grave canyon]

you're joking

literally no shot

[grave canyon]

but brooooooooo my big s8 guns will surely hit an ares that's running circles around me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he will get one shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i paid 675 he paid less i win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lone bloom]

Tbf, it would work, aslong said enemy fighter is a braindead NPC

[grave canyon]

bro even if they are player i broadside them brooooo have you heard what broadsiding is man?????????? like what do they do if i broadside thhem>???????????????????????!!!#%!2412312

[lone bloom]

Broadside deez nutz

[grave canyon]

THE PERSEUS WILL LITERALLY TURN AND BROADSIDE THE HEAVY FIGHTERS FROM 2k

idk how

people believe

that will be the case

mad copium

[lone bloom]

Literally stated on the page about the perseus

Weakness: Fighters

[grave canyon]

ok but have you heard about broadsiding??!!!!

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/what-monkey-shook-shocked-surprised-gif-8153885586429536809

[lone bloom]

Tbf they are wrong at least in one part there

Hammerhead and good against fighting swarms of fighters?

Hammerhead loses against a single gladius

[grave canyon]

wym it's literally designed to do that

well, they say hammerhead is designed for that which it is

it just sucks at it's job

[lone bloom]

In other words

it sucks

[grave canyon]

yes but still it was designed for it

[lone bloom]

Anti fighter ordered from Temu

[grave canyon]

literally the entire reason for the hammerhead to exist is anti fighter + anti torp

yet it's ass

[lone bloom]

Its like

Those temu kitchen gadgets

They break after one single usage

but they are designed for it

[grave canyon]

yes

[marsh zephyr]

they need to make the turrets some kind of bespoke anti fighter and torp weapon for the HH

[lone bloom]

Bespoken guns on a Hammerhead? People would not be happy xd

Even while it would be probably better

[grave canyon]

some kind of faster homing round maybe

not much but just enough to have a bit of aim assist on it

have it be ballistic and give it faster homing rounds

[lone bloom]

I mean... they still wanna introduce Flak ballistic ammo, maybe that will make the HH deadly...

If they will work like flak rounds usually are supposed to work.... then the HH might be actually doing what it was ment for

[crystal sleet]

its gonna be so fucked if the Perseus is the one ship that somehow counters fighters

[grave canyon]

counters fighters
no subcap can ever kill it
very dangerous for caps too
?!

[lone bloom]

Lol

looks at Scorpius Antares - Polaris - Roc DS

[grave canyon]

do people even take what cig says seriously about stuff like this nowadays

[lone bloom]

Honestly think they currently don't really know how to balance stuff at all rn

And probably also the one hand doesn't know much what the other one does

[grave canyon]

almost as if trying to run a game while developing it breaks the game

[lone bloom]

tbf balance issues aren't probably part of that at least in context of that specific problem

More like huge miscommunication between teams

[grave canyon]

it's just shit design

[lone bloom]

But you know what it comes down to if you say bad things about obviously bad stuff "Do it yourself then if you can do it better"

like you would have casually laying 800 million around

[grave canyon]

gimme 800 million and 12 years

[lone bloom]

technically 13

[grave canyon]

i can almost promise you that if you give 12 years and 800 million to a good game designer and if they were actually trying to make a game like star citizen the product would be way better than what we have now

maybe in another 12 years star citizen will be even better than that but at that point it'll be 1 billion + and 25 years of time

[azure fulcrum]

I really doubt perseus is only going to have 2xs3 shields

Ironclad has 4xs3 shields

[lone bloom]

Well Hammerhead still has 2xs3

They need to badly update it lo

[humble anvil]

IM going to going out onto a limb and say; that i believe perseus will get a 3rd shield due to: Current powercreep, and game environment. With every ship getting upgunned, etc. Seems to be the Trend.

and it does have the 2nd powerplant... a 3rd shield would be pretty tight on power but it has ballistic weapons

so should be good

[azure fulcrum]

it does, even TAC has 2 shield comeone mane

yeah the 2nd powerplant might also be to power the bladed turrets

[marsh zephyr]

depends if they need to sell more or if they have a perseus mk 2 in the pipeline

[lone tundra]

It's a brawler not an invincible fortress

2x S3 is fine when you're rocking 4x S8s, needs to have a weakness somewhere

[humble anvil]

You speak Heresy?

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-telling-calling-dialing-phone-tom-and-jerry-calling-for-help-gif-15319723866024830268

just my take, Shields aint dick at that form factor. a Hammerhead, sure hits hard, but its not invulnerable

shields aint dick on an 890J lo

but its a yacht so

my take is hammerhead needs to be brought up to 3xS3 shields

[lone tundra]

It should have ridiculous armor and offensive firepower.

We don't need shields where we're going.

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-gif-14552703

[azure fulcrum]

I think we should bring out the pitchforks and demand a capital class shield

[humble anvil]

fk it

Make it double

im in

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

[foggy beacon]

LMAO

i'm in too

[steel sparrow]

Imma buy yall a percy if it worked(not really)

[humble anvil]

Ugh

I need s9 croberts

It's the only way the Perseus will be able to having staying power in this meta

Croberts plz

We need quad S4 PDTs too

And 4 PDCs

Thanks croberts

[lone bloom]

Croberts be like: we like to introduce you the perseus MK II, the manufacture decided that their outdated Model needed an full rework to fullfill the New Standards of the Navy, including an fleshed out armory, medical bay Tier 2, and two additional Main turrets, also it got upgunned to S9 and has 2 Cap shields. Therefor it grew to 150 Meter in size and costs now 900 bucks plenge now

Also: it can punch above its weightclass

[humble anvil]

You're going to get someone with that shit

Hold on imma do some trolling

[lone bloom]

Its literally the wrong font wdym

[humble anvil]

Manifesting destiny

[wooden trench]

Na, hear me out.
2x s8 beam turrets

[humble anvil]

It's coming

There's no other ship capable of using as heavy weaponry as the Idris. I HIGHLY believe we will see a Perseus upgrade kit or a beam upgrade kit

There's really no reason why they wouldn't

They said at baijini it's year of the beam and it's made for bigger ships.

[wooden trench]

Nice

Tbf, bomb racks we're very unexpected, as was the nova gatling and scorpius turret

[humble anvil]

Let me see if I can find the exact words translated I guess

Beam Weapons:

• For larger ships.
• "This is the year of beam weapons."

So maybe it doesn't but considering no other S8 in game. I think they will do it to further boost the sale of Perseus

[lone bloom]

Lies

We got Beam weapons also for FPS

[lone bloom]

Beam Perseus

Imagine the torpedos being swapable with a weaker version of the Idris godbeam

[humble anvil]

Don't give me hope

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/rebellions-are-built-on-hope-cassian-andor-diego-luna-star-wars-rogue-one-gif-26232966

I mean you can swap it on the idris too

aslong you have it in the first place

[cursive drum]

S9 Distortions unless upgrade kit.

[lone bloom]

I mean... S9 Dis would be very annoying

Not for the perseus but for every ship that may get hit by them xD

[foggy beacon]

insta shut down lol

[grave canyon]

ballistics are the only way

ballistics are for real men

[cursive drum]

But completely unable to kill anything.

[lone bloom]

They still do damage.

It just takes forever

[cursive drum]

Not to hull.

[lone bloom]

Yes, to hull

[cursive drum]

That is distortion? Not hull.

[foggy beacon]

yeah, it don't do hull damage

just turns off their system

i've used the S5 distortion scattergun on my corsair before

it can shut off a medium ship around C1 sized in about 5 burst with shield down

or if you hit it's engine, around 2-3 burst

[azure fulcrum]

this color scheme but for perseus

[lone bloom]

it just looks bad ingame tho

Was thinking about buying that paint till I saw videos with it

The red appears in a strong orange lol

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that happens a lot with paints

same with the talon paints they suck, only the base ones are good if you ask me

[lone bloom]

dunno never looked at the talon paints

great looking ship tho

[lone bloom]

Ya see what i mean

[azure fulcrum]

ewww orange

[lone bloom]

also

the leak picture of it had a waaaaay darker gray tone

that there is blueish gray

[azure fulcrum]

I remember the same with the guardian "red" paint

[lone bloom]

the frick

is it the paint I think it is?

[azure fulcrum]

it look orange ingame

[azure fulcrum]

red skies paint

[lone bloom]

like.... I know the name of those lmao

[azure fulcrum]

red means orange

[lone bloom]

ah okay is not the paint i thought

Thought its that one

[azure fulcrum]

that one looks more red but not really it's like a second hand 30 year old car with faded red paint that stood in the sun all day

[lone bloom]

now i have to look up how that one looks ingame

ah that one is actually red ingame

[azure fulcrum]

this is how it looks ingame

[azure fulcrum]

actually thats one of the best red skins I've seen so far hmm surprising

[lone bloom]

So

They can do make red paints

why are others then freaking orange

[lone bloom]

PoV: Starlancer """"Red""""" paint

Might also appear orange 90% of all times

Hope the purple paint guy gets its hands on the percy

[azure fulcrum]

oh lol

[lone bloom]

yeah imagine, 80-90% of the hull is that dark/black paint, and there are stripes and accents in bright purple

like - wait

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wait-a-minute-somethings-aint-right-hold-up-somethings-wrong-here-gif-17361118

(because i randomly found it, here is the leaked paint of the starlancer, with the way darker gray tone)

[lone bloom]

Like that just purple instead of yellow

For the perseus

[lone bloom]

But again to the """""Red""""" Starlancer paint - if it would have looked like that ingame, would have instantly bought it ngl

[azure fulcrum]

to be fair I see what color they were going for anti-fouling paint which we have under the waterline of ships

wait no it looks more faded then that

[lone bloom]

Thats still not orange

lol

[azure fulcrum]

yeah it's still red

[lone bloom]

Like its still way off

[azure fulcrum]

CIG is so weird sometimes

I wonder if color blindness plays a role

[lone bloom]

Also I would never buy paints usually especially not for a ship like the starlancer knowing I would trash it after getting the percy

But

The standart paint on the Max looks so shit

[azure fulcrum]

I think the TAC paint looks a little better?

[lone bloom]

It is

Matt grey

Max is chrome/metallic

Its literally like you would go in GTA 5 with your car into the workshop thing and make it full chrome to feel cool while it looks horrible

[azure fulcrum]

is this the default tac paint?

[lone bloom]

don't know if it has those red markers everywhere

but very similar

[azure fulcrum]

oh lol the red does not look red either

[lone bloom]

ugh wanted a preview of the tac on yt but everyone uses that ugly ass Minions Skin xD

ah it has those """""once again RED""""" Marks

so yes it is that skin

hold up let me cook

gonna do something now

[azure fulcrum]

weirrd skin looks like a blender model

[lone bloom]

its fucking brown

(used colorpicker from photoshop)

[azure fulcrum]

yeah I was about to say

[lone bloom]

Thought it might be a brownish red

[azure fulcrum]

it's not even brownred RAL3011 it's just BROWN

[lone bloom]

But even in photoshop its straight up brown

[azure fulcrum]

yes straight up

[lone bloom]

I mean

I mean to be fair

its still by a longshoot better than the max standart paint#

I mean

Just noticed it also has those "I tried" red marks

I really hope they don't do the persy so dirty like they did with the slancer

[azure fulcrum]

the marks look even worse with the failed chrome paint

[lone bloom]

Well I don't know if its just a wannabe chrome

or like "unpainted metal"

[azure fulcrum]

freelancer has the unpainted metal look

[lone bloom]

Because chrome is usually... noticable because of reflection like a mirror but since SC is not able to do that and also doesn't have Raytracing in the first place...

[lone bloom]

Ngl

[azure fulcrum]

I didn't mind the freelancer paint it looks like metal

[lone bloom]

Looks like chrome material put on something in blender

without having it rendered

[azure fulcrum]

;p

oh CIG you so lazy

[lone bloom]

like - the prerendered material like you can see what it is

But it only appears great once rendered

[lone bloom]

well or it is supposed to be like that

Hoping the SL BLD has an other stock paint

I know there was somewhere with all three SLs

[azure fulcrum]

BLD seems just metal color

[lone bloom]

oh no

[azure fulcrum]

with the brown markers

you're welcome

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

whatever... will dump it either way once my base is build

lol

something aint right there

Pilot controls 2x S4 guns? I clearly see the side turret there still, or does it mean the turret on the other side is missing and its assymetrical?

[azure fulcrum]

those are the pilot controlled guns

[lone bloom]

Yeah

but the normal Slancer has 4xs4

[azure fulcrum]

oh yeh

[lone bloom]

dual S4 turret on each side

and on that picture there is a dual turret

or they went lazy and that in the picture isn't the BLD

And its the max just as "placeholder"

[azure fulcrum]

yeah they just went lazy

[lone bloom]

My guess would be also that its a typing error

SInce there were MANY

At that citizenscon

[azure fulcrum]

CIG make lot of error lol

30k erorr

[lone bloom]

It was literally a thing of

Tell me the Powerpoint was rushed without telling me

Back in school, every single error would have a impact on your grade

[azure fulcrum]

yeah they didn't even have concept art of the BLD probably

[lone bloom]

ah no

there is one

With the metallic paint

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-lilo-and-stitch-mad-upset-stitch-gif-17532866

And still has its 4x S4 pilot guns lol

So it was a error in the powerpoint

lol

there are many pictures of it even which i never saw

It does not even lose its whole cargo capacity unlike the TAC

[azure fulcrum]

yeah that would make sense because it needs it for building stuff

[lone bloom]

yeah obv

But doesn't make that the BLD

simply just a upgrade from the MAX?

[azure fulcrum]

is it just me or do the wings on the engines look out of place?

they look dumb to me IDK

[lone bloom]

They do

they also do ingame

[azure fulcrum]

yeah they don't even look like wings

[lone bloom]

also why has it red glowing engines

its blue ingame

[azure fulcrum]

IDK what they were thinking

maybe to make it look like a bird or something

it would've looked better without them

[lone bloom]

look how fucking wide it makes it

[azure fulcrum]

yeah especially from the top wow.. the "wings" ruin it for me

[lone bloom]

I mean I would have went with the galaxy

[azure fulcrum]

wings that don't give any lift or have ailerons

[lone bloom]

But wasn't sure if its worth 82 bucks to upgrade my max to it via CCUing

especially since it would have no module

[azure fulcrum]

I have the warbond CCU to tac.. but I'm not going to keep TAC its too slow and the wings are dumb

[lone bloom]

hold up

you ccued to a tac

not knowing how it looks ?

[azure fulcrum]

no lol

[lone bloom]

also Tac and Max get buffed with next patch

in terms of speed

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/farewell-to-space-battleship-yamato-anime-water-sakuga-gif-17566749867359261650

[lone bloom]

Xerous was summoned

[azure fulcrum]

the SCM speed and boost but the pitch yaw and roll are still way too slow

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

[lone bloom]

Tbf Tac also isn't meant to fight ships either way