#Perseus Pals
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to nerf it later on
That could be a thing, and not something they didn't already do before
I think the S8 was the pre-release upgun
the "balance" upgunn
They seem pretty intent on IAE release and might as well get more people to buy it thinking it's gonna go up in price on release
the other part is.. Why the fuck was perseus gun even in the files?
And S9 would be the "temporary marketing upgun" 
it was the same with the pooplaris
There is
The Kraken
Has an S8 Dual Turret
THE KRAKEN
We bouta see kraken with frankensteined-on perseus turrets
A ship thats still being produced // reconsidered
Again i dont see why tf perseus guns description is even in the files to datamine

Oh... right since Percy got now S8 I have to rethink about kraken again....
Would went with it ingame farming because of its S8 dual turret
But now the percy has it too, and even two of them
Fully on purpose
Drumming up hype
I bet Kraken gets S9 upgunn ngl
Not disagreeing or throwing shade that's just a legit strat lol
yeah Samuel, i dont disagree, they're so weird
ofc put it in the files, sell the warbond for the ship
ez $$
then not upscale it to S8
People would go mad about that probably
If they say it on an official thing that it got an upgunn
and then it releases without the upgun xD
Hunt the Polaris with a fully crewed Perseus or even multiple would go so hard
100x better than the stupid Laser Beam of the Idris K 
I do wonder if the torps will get upsized
i forget how good the S5s are I haven't used the harbinger in a while
And remember this basically confirmed PDTs
S5s are pretty good
Good pic of the hold
Too fast to get hit from PDCs
and So far I know S5s can pretty much onehite anything the size from an aurora up to an Vanguard
Or at least cripple them
Small but devestating
Right
And we are still coping about a medbay or not? 
So a volley of 4 would smack the shit outta a polaris lol
especially with the size increase
I meannnn
well Perseus can shoot only two at a time
But I still think a single fully crewed perseus can kill a fully crewed polaris, aslong its not escorted
Oh right mb
Yeah the polaris isn't exactly purpose built for direct solo combat with big things
The torpedos are more of a contingency plan
Sure if a S10 TOrp hits the perseus
Its game over
But if it gets shoot down because the polaris has no escort like a firebird that can missile spam and overwhelm the PDC's...
or gets jumped from behind from the percy.... its game over for the Polaris
Will pretty much just stick to its ass and shoot one engine off after another
till it either retreats and jumps away, or dies
Yea
The issue here is just that this same thing may also apply to the Idris xD
and that may or may not make people angry
Sure, a Idris got a bit heavier weaponry that can shoot behind than the Polaris, but experience wise even the Hammerhead can tank that
@pine root lol your reddit post with the paints is one of the top things in google if you google perseus paints
What

lol and the worst appears 

Yo it's twice, it's also on the 1st row

Well since radiation and weather / rain storm seems to be soft confirmed for 4.2... what if the Perseus release trailer will be something where it pushes through the rain clouds and bombard the ground? 
would be cool to see it peek through the rain and radiation...
with some eery tunk tunk tunk music playing
imagine hearing this, and the perseus rolls up, and goes 'pew pew'
Imagine hearing this while you're chilling cruising around in your STV
Tuesday:
⣠Maintanence Window starting from 13:00 UTC / 8:00 AM CDT
Perseus incoming 
Perseus at Finale
poop my pants
But then the CCU don't work anymore 
nah it gets a surprise drop at Finale, and Drake obv doesnt show up

Perseus takes tis spot
"Drake overstayed their visit at arccorp"
Did you heard the Rain sounds too already?
yea
Imagine flying slowly with a percy through the rain towards the valakkar
Just to let it rain fire from the guns 
rain video incoming
I feel like blasting Valkar with S8 guns will result in minimum loot
So players can't just A2 that shit
nah it aint a bomb
it'll prob be better than anything in the game because its a cannon so one big shot and its going to fking chunk that thing
vs target saturation and damaging the internal bits through cracks
The bigger the pew, the smaller the loot
confirmed?
dunno
It is confirmed to degrate in loot if the "damage" is way too high yes
They mentioned it in some ISC no?
Imagine having to kill a Apex Valkkar with FPS weapons for the best loot XOX
Wait what
scuffed as fk
lol
rain_thunder.mp3

but either way, its cool to start getting weather in SC
game needs diversity
Soon the snowstorm gets updated surely

i spent...
a collective, of about 8 hours turning scrip into favors, to try to pull the medium ship
the 30 favor, 50 caranite, ship surprise
in hopes i get a taurus..
And yoouuu got a intreprid?
the point is the military components
otherwise i'll take the industrial components off the zeus
or just use the zeus for bs
this is what i can get
50 carinite...
so much carinite
don't you get carinite only from the hathor hole thing?
yes
honestly
this is so incredibly stupid
might as well skip over medium and go straight for premium lol
30 fucking helmets
That the Sabre firebird is on the same stage as the Max or F8C is ouch lol
should've been on the medium
scrips are cope
i tell ya man this entire loop just isnt worth it
i think ship surprise is worth it
can get a c1 / scorpius / intrepid / whatever
its actually worth it
only 20 favor
thats easy
but imma roll for taurus, would like the mil comps :>)
it may be worth it once you have insurance T3 and it stays there permanently
and there are no wipes
But on the other hand people may be able to craft it too
so you may also can just buy it
from players
we need a grand exchange equivalent ong
like a big ass banu trading station like how everyone goes to a certain place in warframe
I mean my main loop is still crafting and basebuilding xD
(and bounty / combat missions)
You know that exactly thats the plan with basebuilding?
That you can build huge shops
That players come visit
prayge
Just imagine a huge base, with full air defence, shields, landing pads with perseus ontop and a few free landing pads or hangars for people who are coming to buy stuff
the problem is... you go to wikelo
and you take a mission to trade the scrip into favor
but its not the right station... so you have to abandon. then theres like a few minute cooldown where a mission doesnt show
and its all rng which station you get
so you sometimes can get a few of the same station in a row, or sit here n wait 30 minutes because the game keeps giving you the wrong station
im not going to fuck with wikelo after this lol
done done
I am only a grinder if it isn't just ass lol
š£ļø š„
Like - I aint gonna do VHRT or ERT missions if I know that I have to go repair every 1-3 missions
and risk loosing all the expensive cargo xD
Which won't happen with a perseus 
Done yet? xD
2 more
pain in my ass

I need to look for a group that is going to roam in a Perseus shark pack. any ideas?
So will you use it for Medium or premium
got the guardian
Is that now good or Bad
i mean it has smaller components
Well, thats why we dont like rng if it takes dozenz of hours to complete in the first place 
I mean fair Casino is great, but uh not so very great if you have to put so many hours into it for one Single try just to get something you dont want 
Just a bit disappointed, it's not a very satisfying loop and will I do it again? No
There's nothing unique to them except some paint. Same for the armor that does the same thing as base varient

I mean
But anyways, when crafting comes, Perseus upgrading will do anything for
Ravit will be the Perseus guy
Perseus Tier 5 lets go 
Wonder if only people who pledged for the ships will be able to uptier craft them
Or have it easier because they got the blueprint already while others have to get a percy first and find the Upgrade blueprints
Pain in the ass if it's not; Rep with region access to x ships
Crusader security rep should give crusader related goods, including upwards of ships and components. Hurston and their variants of ships and components/weapons.
Just like castra or whatever with RSI
Then ofc mining guild for mining, cargo cargo, etc etc
Well rep will be required for some ships
I mean didnt they said specific for the f7a blueprint you need high mercenary rep?
And then limiting players ability to align with a faction to limit how much they can take in to require trading with others
Warframe for example limits 1 master, 2 sides, rest null
So far i know there are only two of the Main reps that cancel out each other
The mercenary guild and the pirate one
Need more reason to play besides Auec and this god awful RNG crafting
Aka either being able to craft Military ships, or having to Rely on stealing ships and paying alot of money to rename and overwrite ownership to you
At least in terms of mercenary vs pirate guild
I mean crafting basebuilding and Player economy is supposed to combine everything or not
It will be the best
What in the hell is a Cutty idris blue 
The fkn Stanton police force coming for ur ass after you stealing a Perseus for science
My science will be
Cutting off the turrets
And placing them on my(non existend) percy additionally 
8x s8 go brr
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I pray for high explosive rounds
(Tbf Titel of that Video is misleading it wasnt the end of kamino, just of that one specific City at that point of time)
This is true
Just for vader to literally end kamino later 
And emperor then being suprised why his clones dont make good progress post Episode 6 
Pew pew
Was so excited for this patch just to be let down. Again the reason to grind just doesn't feel good
When I can accomplish the same thing almost by buying Grade A civ , industrial and even some grade b military components
I have
Red contracts
Go brrr
Apparently
Ship armor is in tech preview
Atleast some form of it
Yeah
Goodnight
I'm engi neering my fucking limit
Do those produce bigger ships because my guardian mx is too chonky to be fighting gladius
Wdym guardian too chunky to fight gladius
I fight razor racing ships with my starlancer 
Unless its a Player smaller ships should usually never be an issue 
like i said prob a skill issue

I haven't been locked in all day I couldn't even play drums properly earlier, spent like 4-5 hours on the phone with util companies 
all military ships will require reputation for the blueprints
is the plan
Lots of gladius, and a few big ships like freelancer, an occasional C2, caterpillar, MSR, Valkyrie
Getting the blueprint and crafting it would be more time and Grind consuming than buying percy for uec 
But you get to feel even more proud of yourself for crafting one from teh ground up
I mean the Grind will be way bigger
making the accomplishment feel even more greater
Like, you have to get merc rep =ergo you need already a combat ship to farm rep
Then basebuilding
You need an L manufacture Hangar
hire a basebuilder in chat 
And to get the Ressources for the Hangar and crafting itsself you need mining and salvage ships
actually, i wonder how basebuilding for other players will work]
like how will ownership of bases work, will it only be claimed by the player who owns the ship
You dont need a ship to claim a area
i mean the structures themselves
Also probably the Person who claims it first is the owner but can give others permissions
Like it was said in citizenscon
oh they said that, man its been a while
also i probably skipped through that section lmao
I mean org Bases were their pla
Plan
So technically you can claim a Land, if you want L buildings could ask someone with a Pioneer galaxy or sl bld
To build you the L building tower that grants you 4 L drones
And something that makes Power 
I mean Power and storage you may can do build yourself
Without help of someone else
yeah the cart?
CSV
well then, it should be all fine and dandy as far as i see it
But still
Meaning if combat ships are locked behind crafting
That means you have to Do an huge Grind 
ive spent the past few days mining and salvaging ships in Space engineers, and only just started building a space station after spending a month on a planet, im fine with the grind
Unless we will be able to sell ships to other players and craft multiple
no way theyll limit the number of built ships (except for special ships like the f7a mk2 or f8c)
Dunno
eh, if player economy does happen, i suppose players will haev to order a ship from another player then wait a few days or so
more realistic that way
"Oh want to buy perseus? Yeah thats 150 mil and you have to wait uhhh let me check....mmhhh two months because of queu"

"Yeah man, business has been booming lately, we got a backorder of 50 orders for a Perseus, ill give you a 15% discount if youre willing to wait for 3 months"
"Business has been booming..."
I assume they will make the warframe move and it takes a week to build just one 
id be ok with that, im more than willing to wait for something im guaranteed to get at the end
gets eaten by the hangar 
ive waited longer than a week for something to finish crafting in the foundry once or twice before
oh god, imagine if the game doesnt automatically apply a basic insurance for the ship and that does happen
Uh
Just insurance would still fuck it
Since insurance only gives you uec back not the ship
The ship would be still gone
well atleast you get some cash back with basic insurance,
It would need warranty
And those are surely not applied automatically since they said warranty Tokens will be rare
i feel like youll have to build som local comm arrays so that you can contact the insurer to insure a ship onsite
And only ships that are pledged pre 1.0 have automatically warranty (aka never ever will be fully lost)
Meaning if rustle actually Gifts me a perseus i will have warranty on it
only time will tell i guess
Insurer then be like "can you proof you had that ship in the first place? No? Fuck off then"

10/10 playability realism
Will craft 320 ilvl perseus for mats /w me
If galaxy has the L size building module as planned, I got ya
"Don't buy from that dude he just scams people" 
I bet scamming will be a huge issue without the actual shop terminals xD
I guess we should get a "vendor rep" like we did with medical beacons or something like that
Erm
Better in here than the ironclad club šš
What happened with the ironclad club
Just dead
Rip
Cuz ironclad mia
There's really not much to be excited for an ironclad... It's a big ol brick that carries stuff and will get blasted by the Perseus
It'll be a cool mobile home but on these servers?

It's a cozy world hauling shit around, but ya it'll get creamed by crewed Perseus all the time
Ironclad is the best god damn drop barge this side of Jupiter and I'll be damned if them Mars yanks try n one up her with their fancy city folk dildo ships no sir
Well if you want a huge dropship that can carry many tanks which are pretty much useless rn... Ironclad is probably the best still, or want to carry alot of cargo while safety of the interior (since its the biggest grided cargo interior wise)
well, at least till kraken
But tbf who transports more than 1000 SCU in one haul?
Especially if you have to manually load them 
Percy will be my hauler assoon I got one ingame 
Ain't the Percy gonna have shit for storage tho??
Yeah I mean with autoload you could just turn brain off and make bank with ironclad. Once it works again ...
Officially it has 50 SCU Cargo, offgrided theoretically 400 or more
Where's the 400 go? Does it have a vehicle spot?
Interesting tho, I've never trusted off-grid personally
Almost the entire "cargo" bay is a vehicle spot, thats why it only has 50
Because the dedicated Cargo grids are at the walls (just like in the Idris)
Also the cargo bay takes up two floors, so there should be a lot of height clearance. Its only the matter of fitting stuff through the elevator
Can show you a screenshot of it in a second
Greatly increased Idris Series Capacitor Ammunition and Turret Rotation Speeds while adding rotation acceleration and deceleration times
So is the Idris turrets just like wobbly now lol
Alrighty
That's the one thing that kinda pushes me away from the Perseus besides crewing it, the turrets prolly gonna be slow as hell
That can be easily countered by having the pilot pitch and yaw the ship, getting guns on target faster. Its all about coordination
tbf requires an extremely skilled pilot and gunner
Just gotta tell the gunners where to pre aim ie. "Gunners, 90 degrees port", then you line the ship up with the target
Id post the Missouri drift here but my phone hates loading gifs
All of those are 32 scu containers
+2 missing spots because there are no 16 or 26 scu containers sadly
- 1 additional floor
did put a C2 for scale next to it because I thought its unrealistic but from the concept artworks it may be 1,5x as big as the C2 hangar
and that may increase that too
becomes the biggest sub capital
Pocket Battleship aint gonna bs so Pocket anymore
because making it longer means they have to make it wider aswell
Just Battleship
But maybe medbay trust 
Just maybe they use bunk beds instead of single beds, opening up space around the crew quarters
they are
single Beds instead of bunk beds in an military ship especially this size is stupid either way
Its just stealing so much room
Could easily fit an armory next to the crew rooms
The concept layout showed the crew quarters having 5-6 individual single beds
hmmmh that gives me an idea, could do the same thing I did with the hammerhead
Just making my own layout xD
You literally just need half the space the crew quarters takes up atm if you used bunks
Fixxed it 
FKN YS TS FR

Fuckin yes this shit for real

Don't understand why the captains room isn't an enclosed room either way
freak even in the hammerhead the office is a different room than the captains quarters
I mean maybe they did change that while concept to whitebox/greybox
I also just noticed
Can it be that the percy has 3 blast doors for the Cargo Bay?
Maybe even 4
depending on if there is a second door next the one on the left
Well considering they have the polaris captains quarters done, theyll probably tweak it for the perseus
I believe only the arches directly linking the cargo bay catwalk with the west of the ship are the blast doors, the one towards the rear looks like a normal archway like in the zeus hallways
Perhaps
don't understand the middle thing there either way
like, why is there "free space"?
Like everything else is cluttered and sticking next to each other
just not those two rooms 
@humble anvil
Also I hope we will be able to lock blast doors in the future because only seen them lockable on the Idris, but just sone random as doors, not even those on the Hangar
Or that will come with engineering next patch
Deffo engineering, everything is coming for the perseus maaann
and ballistic reloading is also on the road

The Year of the Perseus
Would be perfect, what if the sharkmouth idris was a test to see how itd look

oh hey so how they're adding engineering into the game
with the new patch
meanwhile the RSI Constellations without an engineering panel š

Probably gets a mini update for that reason
or won't get engineering enabled
engineering is fine but if they make it artifically tedious... its going to be beyond stupid
imagine having a car, and fuses broke every 5 minutes
thats not realistic
we got military ships that blow the fuck out on the first sign of kinetic energy
Somehow I got the feeling they will make it so that its a must have to have an engineer consistently running around
And they will get a backlash for it till they change it
So it may happen maybe once in a few hours
like it would be fine, absolutely fine if its something like; if you're in combat and its like a quantanium count down yah know. like its going to bug you but its not going to fuck your shit
but if its consistently turning things off, , malfunction / jams and etc is all fine and dandy if the system can resolve itself
see how it'll get implemented but if its implemented like literal ass cheeks, backlash will be bad
Perseus S8 Turret shot

I hate that they only do third person
I want to hear and see it first person
isnt 100% use of efficient space like a borg cube
I mean none of the SC ships are space efficient, except for most drake ships and the zeus
I mean to be fair, also same drake ships may use the "space" but not really... its just... there 
Looks at cutlass series 
Zeus would be more space efficient if the damn cargo door opening was 2-4m wider
It will never not piss me off lol
Because of the Ursa? 
MTC also does not fit so far I know?
which is fine. had an argument with a guy once who said the starlancer max needs to be scrapped and redone because there was small bit of unused space behind the couch
people have an obsession with there being "wasted space" in ships
like, its fine dude chill. doesnt need to be a borg cube
borg cubes usually have a ton of empty space, so not 100% efficiency
I mean scrapped and redone is a bit extreme for just a little bit of space, the common room has more an issue of having alot of unused walls (like the green wall that was part of the concept isn't there) and the kitchen has not even a refrigerator
weirdly enough, the Tac has one
i thought we were comrades. why are u like this
the hydroponics wall wouldve been great for when farming came around
the POINT WAS. a ship doesnt need 100% efficient use of space. no vehicle in real life is either
its fine to have space here and there
because i am a
enjoyer
Spaceships in reallife are tho

clearly not if ur trying to sow discord in the perseus enjoyers club
while i cannot say for absolute certainty as ive never been on one nor seen the blueprints, i doubt thats true
and just containers in general
I mean they are as space efficient as they can be
the opening being bigger would make it perfect
I mean I had a Zeus ES for a few months because of my MR loaner I had (till upgraded to Starlancer) didn't had many issues with the door, actually, I do have more issues with the backramp/door of the Max while it is bigger 
so same fate as me 
I mean could've upgraded it for a few bucks to an Guardian XI or however the new one was named after knowing that Rustle gifts me a perseus at IAE, but not gonna do that and sacrificing the cargo capacity just in case it will not happen 
Oh yeah forgot max can carry a Storm tank aswell
What do we think, will the Percy elevator be enough for a storm tank @humble anvil ?
Could be a very close fit
I mean the elevator is bigger than the ursa, but not by alot
It may could fit?
why would u choose a storm over Nursa
Well the Nursa won't revive you forever either way
also just to have the option is great lol
Replenishes Food and hydration, heals u if u wanna do FPS missions
I dnot really find other ground vehcial useful stho
also you forgot that its just about if it can fit on the elevator, you forgot that the cargo hold is larger
real
It may can carry 2 ursas and a storm
bring 4 nursa XD

for emotional support
So you may can bring an Ursa for revival in there and a storm tank for just pushing and killing infantry
even while the reviving thing needs to get refilled, they added already an refill type of thing in the tac med bay
(Also I kinda hope they nerf it in terms of hydration and food that it may only refill 10-20%)
Because a Med Bay shouldn't make a Kitchen once they work invalid lol
proceed to kms to replenish water and food*
You forgot death of spacemen
You have to refill said med bay at some point it cannot 'respawn' you forever in the near future
and once you actually die you loose pretty much everything
unless you pay a huge fine
can't wait to die due to clipping through ground
I mean, I hope they don't add death of spacemen before those things are fixxed
And I assume basebuilding will bring alot of new clipping issues 
Very very tight
Depends how they do the cargo elevator too
Or if they bring the ramp back

We haven't seen an updated model
Nope
Again will depend how they do the cargo elevator
If the elevator is Ursa sized but interior is spaced out with no railings
Maybe could squeeze the Ursa up inside lol
Imagine it has Railings in the hold to stop you from offgriding cargo

That would be evil
Tbh that looks like it could hold a storm
But looks like ursa is not at all taking the entire space there
Yeah lol but you know... Concept art āØ
Almost looks like there could fit two
'Officialy'
Mhm
Offgriding will stay Alive
Till the day the offgrided boxes jump around and damage your ship 
Or weight plays a role and bottom thrusters cannot lift it
It's called pocket battleship
Not pocket cargoship
We only fill the battleship with confiscated maze

But that still weights something 
Haven't been to ILW yet
I think
I think it was supposed to be the Atls GunMech
But yah know since wikelol yoinked that shit
He fucking stole it
Theft
Needs a suprise Visit of perseus fleet
Oh god
Imagine perseus only via wikelo
Just like the poolaris
That would be actually pain
pledger don care
TBH I should have gotten the newer AMD GPUs and weighted for a good deal
Waited
Apparently they have something coming for FSR4 ...
Despair
Idris exterior door health changes:
front doors each 100.000 from 20k,
rear ramp 350.000 from 8k,
argo hangar door 100.000 from 8k,
Polaris exterior door health changes:
hangar 300.000 from 162k,
ramps each 230.000 from 20k,
890j exterior door health changes:
hangar 100.000 from 400,
main lift & cargo lift 1.000 from 400
wdym? that they got buffed?
yeah, thats meant to be in the thousands, not 350.0
for some reason, EU uses the period instead of a comma
health uppies
Just means the perseus will get stronger aswell 
just take the engines out first, then start focusing on the other stuff like turrets
when the engines are out, have half the fleet go back to rearm and repair while the other half remains on site focussing on weapons
then when the rearming half returns, have them focus the doors
Pft one turret deals with the engines
the other one has fire rounds and sets all of their interior on fire

just focus entirely on the bridge, flush the crew out of the helm
and the deck where teh bridge connects to teh main body, keep em trapped in the tube between the bridge and ship
I can still imagine the fire ballistic variant to be extremely OP
especially against ghost crewed ships
Slowly destroying the ship from the inside, while the fire just spreads everywhere
Suprised, no C2 warbond
why rearm
we gonna have manual reloading prolly
just chuck a bunch of ammo in your cargo hold
hesh rounds when
Thats also part of the reaming, just get more ammo somewhere
a couple percy's can prolly hold enough to kill an idris
or at least disable thrusters, turrets and open doors
which is pretty much the same as killing it
Yeah probably
One percy with fighter support could probably knock out a lone idris
If a hammerhead can
a Perseus surely can do so too

Shields to one side, broadside barrage the idris while evading its gun
ez
Broadsides will be possible btw
and ideally they give the lower turret a bit of ab extending neck so it can shoot forward a bit
If you fly pretty much near the idris it will be able to shoot at it either way
Idris ass is huge
You have to be near it either way, at least if you want to evade the turrets
Also hope Perseus also gets those red light markings on stuff that can open like the C1, and Slancer
shit ass ares inferno warbond
Its the Baby perseus 
with "ballistic penetration"
it might be good, really good
ballistic damage hull reduction 
Hope that ballistic damage reduction just gets removed entirely
its dumb
I mean isn't it the point of ballistic to hit harder than laser?
And the drawoff is the limited ammunation
There is no "the" ship to fly other than the Perseus

will see how ballistics go
i'll pick up a store credit andromeda to inferno n see 4.2
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@humble anvil
If a Polaris can do that on an Idris a Perseus can do it on a polaris 
and those are player idrises
Thank god they're giving CIG a reason to buff the Capital ship component health
yep
I mean it was pretty obvious that polarises will hug the idris
Dunno how they gonna fix stuff like that other than to nerf the torpedos somehow
Because even if they buff capital components they would need to buff it so high that S10 torps cannot kill them and that would be... too high
Simply the "get outturned, die" applies 
idk. lol
Well or the same thing applies like with the Polaris vs Perseus
Polaris needs an escort to survive an Perseus
Just like the Idris needs an escort (something like a perseus) to survive a polaris
if the perseus can out run the polaris
and out manuver
It should would balance wise pretty shit if not xD
I mean I do see it like that: Polaris is the smallest and lightest armored combat capital, and is because of that the most agiiles and fastes in its class
Perseus is the most heaviest and most armored in its class, making it the slowest and less agile ship for its size
But even then, the armor of the Perseus won't match the Armor of the Polaris very surely, meaning it surely has to be balanced via speed, aka Polaris might be better armored (and gunned) than the perseus, but is less agile
Even while being the agilest.... for its class but that class is one class bigger than the percy
And thats where the huge disadvantage of bigger ships come in... Polaris has pretty much no gun that can shoot at the rear lol
they're range like 3km
and 'long range equilizer"
perseus is
ah okay, polaris range is about 5km
I would not like to fight long range with a polaris
Since the deadly stuff of the polaris ain't its turrets xD
Aslong you can avoid the S6 turret and the Torps... pretty much a no brainer to kill a polaris with something that can deal enough damage and stay in the rear
The S6 isnāt even that dangerous. The Polaris is just a Turtle, weak offenses but damage tank: the opposite of what I paid for.
It was never meant to have big offense other than the torpedos tho
and the torpedos do their job if used correctly (see video I posted half a hour ago)
also CIG when freaking perseus news
When you drop another 500
That video is the exact problem and showcases them not doing their job. In what way is a torpedo supposed to be a melee weapon?
Well, no, I agree that you should not be able to do that because it pretty much makes other larger ships than the Polaris unneccessary but it shows that it can be deadly as descripted, if the torpedos hit
I mean if a single torpedo can dissable a Idris if it hits....^^
Again, wrong. That is self destructive to the Polaris and only works against a non maneuvering target.
Just how it should be lol xD
This is a design flaw and should not be present.
Polaris never was meant to 1v1 other ships its size or larger
Huh??
Yes, that was its purpose. A punch up ship. An assassin.
Wouldn't call a S10 torpedo you get on your radar from dozens of kilometers "assassin"
Will just get worse with engineering tho :p
Since Ballistic Guns will be able to do exactly that
Ok but a smallish fast ship that punches up is.
So the Polaris becomes even more useless.
Depends on how you use the polaris
Engineering
Polaris can obliterate larger targets and make repairs impossible
while smaller fighters, or a perseus, can only disable it
Still having to board it technically to fully destroy it
So its not useless, if used correctly, just like every other ship
No it cannot. It punches weak AF, has bad weapons, and its torpedos are melee weapons??
Well I hope they disable the meelee range thing by adding a minimum distance for the warhead to activate.
All of things can destroy a target, Perseus Included.
Currently, yes, soon? no
They literally said multiple times with engineering coming into the game, completely destroying a ship aka "go boom" won't happen that often anymore
No. That will be bad. They should make them more viable at long range. Disabling viability by removing the remaining use will just mean they cannot be used at short or long ranges.
Especially in terms of huge ships, I assume they will add an gigantic health pool to larger ships after a "soft death" status making it useless to fight further than just board.
And that includes Torpedos.
Torpedos are meant to destroy said targets.... lol
Bris again lifing in an dreamworld
Then soft death and move on. Who would spend the outrageous cost ob Torps?
For 500K? Who would spend that much? Board or salvage the target. I donāt want or need a 500K Scuttling charge.
You are delulu.
If you want to defend something, like your base, or spacestation, or hathor, you would have to "final" kill said target, or do you want them to get back fighting while you're looting or other stuff?
Final kill can be done using Lasers or Ballistics. It may take a lot but Iām bot spending 500K on a scuttling charge no matter what.
Then Polaris might be the wrong ship for you 
Refund pls.
Well you have always the melt button 
But⦠I want to buy things with LTI.
Another user lost to the marketing scheme named LTI
LTI or no buy!
You know how useless LTI is, right?
yea LTI is just base level and pledged ships legally can't permanently leave account anyway
I imagine they will have some sort of way to make the insurance attached to pledges matter though, maybe upgrade it to level 2 insurance or smth would make sense
I never knew we are... that active compared to all other clubs 
Percy is probably the most hyped one tbh
I find it to have the most "cult following" typa thing going on compared to other concept ships
Although I haven't talked much to those Endeavor folk.....
Well they already explained how
Was just about to say endeavor is surely another cult
meanwhile me knows fucking nothing about the endeavor, but whats is there to know in the first place, other than its a huge modular ship? xD
In Short: Every pledged ship, no matter if 6,12,120 months or LTI insurance, do have Insurance Tier 1 (aka only Hull) if the insurance time runs out, people have to pay for the insurance ingame, except for LTI people to be able to call back your ship
But also every pledged ship as automatically a warranty, which makes it never dissappear from your hangar, even if your insurance runs out, so you may not be able to call it without insurance, but you can refresh insurance anytime you are able/want to call it back
And if your ship has Insurance, but no warranty, you only get UEC back if your ship gets lost, but the ship is gone and you have to rebuy/recraft one
I mean looks pretty okay for me, pledge for a ship, keep it forever, have LTI for it, you will never have to pay ingame money for it to get it back, only if you wanna upgrade its insurance but that will probably cost less than having to pay for all three
also this is incorrect by now !!! 
It is required. And not at all useless.
Are we sure? Without LTI they can.
Confirmed to never get lost even without LTI.
Then what does LTI do?
LTI is just your insurance, not your warranty, every ship has as descriped permanent warranty because of law
You just have to never pay for Tier 1 Insurance lol
You need Insurance to call back your ship, but only with warranty it will also stay in your hangar/ASOP
In other words, LTI just saves you maybe a few thousand or few hundred of thousands UEC (guess depends on how big your fleet is) of insurance each month
Or did you thought people with 6 months insurance will lose their ship after 6 months? 
Then how do I get it back?
get back what?
Not being able to use it is the same as losing it.
The ship.
You call it? lol
Well - no, if you lose it, you have to buy it again for millions over millions of UEC depending on what ship, or craft it for dozens of hours
If its still in your hangar and you only have to refresh the insurance... you can just pay it and call it back instantly lol
Also - warranty is also earnable ingame without pledging for ships
Also confirmed
In other words, having an LTI ship vs 6,12,120 months Insurance ship only safes you a few bucks ingame 
So then LTI is needed?
Its not needed
You just never have to pay for insurance
While others may have to pay a few thousand UEC for it lol
Mmmm
Then what if it dies without insurance?
I'm no expert on this insurance topic but I think it's a little early to be able to tell what the final % of fees will require
Then... it will stay in hangar...
And you have to refresh the insurance by paying the insurance fine
So⦠LTI is needed?
Endresult will still stay the same, you just safe ingame money by it
Pledge ships have warranty so they never disappear , but will have to pay a fee in game if they don't have insurance to be able to get it back. Whatever the fee is yet to see
Any insurance removes that fee
In game ships straight up disappear if uninsured
or give perks... (T2 Components, T3 Components and decoration)

ingame bought ships without warranty*
I mean, at least every player will get one warranty token for free
I mean they said you get one by finishing the "Star Citizens" storyline

Wouldn't be suprised if you get one for playing /finishing SQ42
@humble anvil did you seen that by the way? 
PERSEUS IS THE GOAT
Even almost 3K more messages than the whale club 
Funfact, would have used that exact token for the perseus 
Because would have bought no other ship before it ingame
Looks like that token will get used for the Arrastra then instead 
Hm
Ever going to put yourself in a situation where you'll need it?
Flying in an Arrastra, through an asteriod field will be dangerous
So much space, the likelihood of players is slim
And it's great too, can place a bike at the field and return to it later if you need to go back to station for Cruz lux
I mean you avoid alot of other stuff with having an arrastra- no need to go to an space station because of refining, no need of paying the refining taxes/costs, also no need to have a dedicated cargo ship, since the arrastra can carry it itself, usability kinda outweights the risk or not?
Arrastra is a really really really
Broad ship
I love it
I think it gets 4x 4xS3 turrets
Also, i assume its more likely that you get attacked in an prospector or mole
than in an arrastra
well don't have to switch ships is more important for me in that case
With mole or prospector you would have to mine (and in terms of quantainium you even have a timer before boom) have to get back to station, have to wait for ever to get it refined, have to manually load it then into an dedicated cargo ship, and then haul it to selling place or your base
while arrastra is literally go mine - and go back to base
it skips alot of stuff
I myself don't enjoy mining that much, but since its surely required for crafting and basebuilding... better having a ship that can do it all than having to buy two ships and needing two warranty tokens
Bro is building a base. And needs X materials. He parks his Galaxy at base and uses his snub to retrieve his Arrastra. Proceeding to park his snub in the Arrastra some how. He then goes out into the dark space of [REDACTED] and mines all the materials he needs. After some time the onboard refinery filters out the inert materials and processes into beautiful base building materials. He returns back to his Galaxy to continue base building, and stores the rest for base upkeep
He is him
That too lol. Ship does it all
And expensive
Its just kinda sad
because visually the Galaxy looks great
because triangle 
Maybe
That drake ship that exploded there was the fault of the perseus as the one dude (forgot his name) infiltrated the perseus facility

So if you are poor, you might lose access to your ship?
May I ask the question why Bris is here in the first place? 
If you paid in game uec for a ship, and your ship is uninsured, if it explodes or goes missing. It's gone
Thank God for pledged Perseus
No matter how many times engineering wants to fuck us, can just reclaim it


Because I Plenged a Perseus.
Same if you paid irl money for a ship but donāt have LTI.
Go back to javelin club 
He is ragebaiting again, let him be 
I wonder how he was able to be mod at some point
Then how is LTI different?
I was never mod??
didn't null said that?
No Javelin yet.
No? I was streamer at most.
LTI covers the price of the ship, you only pay an insurance fee. Warranty is deeper,
No Perseus yet either :p
How deep? Idk

technically there isn't much difference anymore between ingame bought ship and pledge ship, once warranty token applied
only skipping the huge grind to get the ships in the first place
Patrick you're scaring him
No. Any pledged ship has a permanent warranty. If you lose a pledged ship and your non-LTI *insurance *runs out, you still have the ship on warranty but cannot retrieve it. You will have to pay UEC to reactivate some level of insurance, instead of having to outright buy the ship again for full UEC price. With LTI, you will always be guaranteed level 1 insurance, forever, so it will never hit warranty claim state, only insurance. If you buy a ship with ingame UEC, it will not have a permanent warranty.
Warranty tokens and such will make that a little bit of a looser explanation, but that is the general concept
@lone bloom Your Perseus will come with LTI btw
Not even my SLancer has LTI what you doing 
Mine has LTI because it is the only pledge I haven't changed lol
Zeus no longer LTI because I had to melt my LTI mule and it got changed to 120 month š
I somehow generated 20 bucks in store cred though when I reshuffled my hangar so that was cool
(also they will have permanent warranty, aslong you use a token for it)
Honestly it's been some copium Bs lol. 10 years ago we had LTI and all through the years we still are not at a point where it matters lol
But the tokens are extremely rare
Right that is why I said tokens will make that bit looser of an explanation
Since they are far from guaranteed
The Force Awakens was 10 years ago
he generating money out of nothing (he isn't but to believe in it gives hope) 
Chillll it was 5
That didn't start till 2020
Unless you live somewhere that didn't tell the rest of the world lol
See, even my memory got old 
it was like March 10-15 2020 that all the schools and such started shutting down, February 2020 when word started to spread
"work in progress ship" biggest lie ever
Mhm
Straight up shoot through the walls into the ILW hall
@humble anvil just 257 more copium messages about Perseus and you get your first role btw
A what now??
Soon. At least it has a date t hough.
now he passing the line of fun to annoyance
I hope we see a : Perseus peaks through the clouds, and an Alpha Valakar does the predator clicks
So without LTI, it can become unusable/lost
fir a time? Then LTI is needed!
with a dark, and metal reverb
In the speed it progresses by now we will most likely see the valakkar probably before IAE
Sure if you never want to pay for the cheapest insurance on something you will always have a warranty for, yes sure you need LTI
Ew, gross!
I don't think the Alpha is in in. But it has noises
But if you are spending the money to have LTI, most likely you will play the game enough to want a higher tier insurance than tier 1 lol
T1 insurance is just the stock ship with none of the components or anything you did to it
I shouldnāt need to pay a fee with LTI!
Because you don't lol
Exactly!
Then what fee?
The fee is for people who don't have LTI still, you are just reading like half what people write
Oh, ok then. Thatās good.
- Jared says the June Patch will be "awesome"
- The first glimpse/implementation of Engineering (not the full version, just partial implementation) and Fire Tech will arrive together.
- CIG working on refinery gameplay with updates to Station Refining coming soon, further updates coming with crafting and base building
- A door hacking/breaching mechanic will arrive with engineering gameplay
- Fire venting via opening doors is part of engineering gameplay
- Bullet penetration is being implemented for ballistics
Bullet pen inferno might be good?
AI Cutty blacks about to become a real pain in the ass
Components only have 1.5k health atleast for s2
And that's grade a military
Civ shit has 500



