But for being named "Mobile Tactical Center" its smol xD
#Perseus Pals
steel thistle
But for being named "Mobile Tactical Center" its smol xD
iāll show you smth small 
lone bloom
steel thistle
Knowing MTC's in reallife... they are usually quite big <:kekw:87508307495682054...
yeah who knows what the devs are thinking
when i saw it i thought MOC like from GTA
the big truck with all the stuff in it
tank bay
armoury
missions
radar
turrets
AA i think?
probably other stuff iām forgetting
steel thistle
when i saw it i thought MOC like from GTA
mobile operations centre
nocturne raft
humble anvil
Perseus? š„ŗ
raw lichen
humble anvil
he wanted a Jalopy and he got Sloppy
humble anvil
'..as well as naval-inspired classics.'
In the new video?
foggy beacon
classics
only ship in lore that's classic is the Perseus
:)
or Zeus actually
the mk1 is old
grave canyon
i dont wanna cope too hard but like what else can it be
i hugely doubt perseus this ilw but like there are no other options for a naval-inspired classic
cursive drum
Ironcladā¦?
cursive drum
Actual Ironclads. USS Monitor and CSS Virginia.
grave canyon
brother it's a drake ship
they're not even invited to ilw, they have their own thing
there's no shot that naval-inspired classics mean the ironclad
'When RSI set out to make the definitive modern statement in persuasive prevention, they looked into their own past, to the historic gunships designated Perseus.'
from the pledge store page
idk man i really feel like that's foreshadowing
agile tinsel
Actual Ironclads. USS Monitor and CSS Virginia.
more hearing loss than damage
the perseus is the oldest ship in the game by lore
nvm, just perseus lol
grave canyon
it has to mean the perseus no?
i can't at all think of what else would be called a naval-inspired classic
agile tinsel
there's nothing more classic than an ancient gunboat
grave canyon
i'm trying to think of any other ship that could be called a classic
in terms of military ships there is none that makes more sense than the percy
lone bloom
The amount of copium 
grave canyon
yes ok but tell me what else would be called a naval-inspired classic
agile tinsel
The amount of copium <:kekw:875083074956820540>
correction, HOPIUM
copium comes after
lone bloom
correction, HOPIUM
solid anvil
Since it says naval inspired classics maybe they just mean the uee navy stuff, especially since it's plural
grave canyon
Since it says naval inspired classics maybe they just mean the uee navy stuff, e...
idk man
solid anvil
I'm sure it just means the show floor will have some fighters on it etc
lone bloom
Since it says naval inspired classics maybe they just mean the uee navy stuff, e...
They also used plural for the todays video
yet it was only one ship - and not even a new one
solid anvil
They also used plural for the todays video
Plural where? Like the behind the ships title?
lone bloom
Plural where? Like the behind the ships title?
They said last week that they will show in this video (today) "new" "Ships" coming at ILW
solid anvil
They said last week that they will show in this video (today) "new" "Ships" comi...
Awe man wth
WHAT KINDA PLACE IS THIS
lone bloom
WHAT KINDA PLACE IS THIS
wooden trench
Is that not a retaliator?
fluid plume
come back IAE
steel sparrow
š«
lone bloom
lone bloom
People in Spectrum copium about that the TAC is better than the Andromeda/connies lmao
One still has quad S4 the other one still has quad S5 
steel sparrow
People in Spectrum copium about that the TAC is better than the Andromeda/connie...
solo wise nah
lone bloom
Taclancer only becomes usefull with at least 3+ people
crystal sleet
but theres finally something thats wort multicrewing other than a connei
steel sparrow
HH be like
lone bloom
TAC offers by far more than the connies sure (and also comes with its price) but solo wise its pretty much the MAX but fancy
lone bloom
Just wish the Perseus would also have an T3 medbay room- it has the room for it - even while I know why it doesn't have one
But still the opinion every sub capital aka 100+ meter ship should have a medbay
crystal sleet
we havent gotten any additional news on the Perseus's internals so far, so its still a possibility later on
lone bloom
When was the last update on it either way?
Only that it went to greybox
But not really if anything changed from concept to now except for leaks
steel sparrow
wait till ILW for news XOX
crystal sleet
nope, that might be next week, whether itd be an ISC or SCL
lone bloom
But either way - visually they keep improving rn very fast on ships
Good sign for the perseus? 
crystal sleet
Good sign for the perseus? <:kekl:888505420593889290>
if the blades can make ships move or maneuver faster, imagine what that could do for the Perseus, easier time tailgating targets
lone bloom
Kinda weird tho - they said fine tuning ships will come with engineering
not with fucking blades
crystal sleet
perhaps blades are more like passive upgrades
lone bloom
Fair
They should maybe really do soon a video about the current state of pipeline ships
crystal sleet
put em on but cant change or alter them during flight
lone bloom
Like where and how does the percy looks like - same for the ironclad
Just going through the greybox/whitebox interior
like they did with the polaris
steel sparrow
Tbh even the gladius has flight blade so I dont think flight blade is ai blade
lone bloom
Every ship has them
steel sparrow
ye
crystal sleet
i need to see what they did to the turrets, i stg if its the polaris s6 turret
imagine NOT having this
crystal sleet
but what if they copy pasted the javelin turrets withouth the s4 mount?
would that be a win or riot?
lone bloom
i have to look at them
Cannot find a picture with a close up on the turret xd
Hmmmmm it would be an acceptable "meh"
It wouldn't fit design wise
crystal sleet
lone bloom
Also I would not mind that S4 mount on top xD
Yeah but its rounded on the back
doesn't fit to the percy
steel sparrow
Perseus' has to be smooth and edgy
crystal sleet
its not the normal quad turrets we got in the game
crystal sleet
the ultimate anti air flak turret
lone bloom
Wonder when that switchable ballistic ammo comes
Since it was supposed to finish last year
But I guess its locked with ballistic reloading
crystal sleet
Wonder when that switchable ballistic ammo comes
considering the TAC seems to retain those large drums of ammo presumably, next to the forward manned turrets, maybe kinda soon? Atleast before Perseus
lone bloom
Can also be just visually on the tac
crystal sleet
true, but we should expect it before IAE if they really want to have everything ready for Perseus
crystal sleet
gold standard for me is just "Does it exist ingame?"
lone bloom
Gold Standard is literally "Does it have everything it supposed to have?"
Engineering will shit on many ships in terms of that...
Especially smaller ones
crystal sleet
yeah but im just a simple guy that is satisfied easily
lone bloom
Even if you don't get the percy? š
crystal sleet
its when i get my Perseus that i am satisfied
lone bloom
Once they release the Perseus they announce an capital sized perseus looking ship just wait
crystal sleet
by that time, id probably wouldve found a good paying job to enable disposable income
humble anvil
Did you guys see that s*** that they're talking about flight blades
steel sparrow
fr
humble anvil
They know flyers want to blade their turrets like
The f*** are they doing
They're always changing them most minute s*** that no one cares about
lone bloom
@humble anvil you're pretty late to the party about that topic tho
floral rapids
Arenāt blades supposed to be in the S3 (or alleged s4) remote turrets be default?
We should be celebrating this news
agile tinsel
People in Spectrum copium about that the TAC is better than the Andromeda/connie...
"it's better than the connie, look, I had 5 people in my TAC and it is better !!!!"
lone bloom
"it's better than the connie, look, I had 5 people in my TAC and it is better !!...
I get that people like the thing of having a med bay and somewhat heavy arms
lone bloom
But for 1-2 player a connie is better
agile tinsel
But for 1-2 player a connie is better
and gonna be much more maneuverable
lone bloom
they hated it because it worked well with crews
Nah, its more like a hammerhead situation
It can be very good
But nobody got the crew for it
agile tinsel
ehhh, hammerhead got butchered because everyone had one because of the polaris, or just melted it for a polaris because they were the same price
agile tinsel
But nobody got the crew for it
I only had one time where we fully crewed a hammerhead
lone bloom
"Everyone" aka the whales*
agile tinsel
if you own a hammerhead, you're practically a whale
lone bloom
Tac is just a budget Hammerhead with Medbay
agile tinsel
whale junior
lone bloom
if you own a hammerhead, you're practically a whale <:kekl:888505420593889290>
I mean, I own only a 28ā¬ SL Max so
agile tinsel
I mean, I own only a 28ā¬ SL Max so <:kekw:875083074956820540>
PLEDGE MORE
lone bloom
But yeah would also prefer a polaris over hammerhead
Polaris is pretty much hammerhead when it went to the gym
agile tinsel
ye, I think both before the price increase was 650 WB, 750 normal
and that price increase was only in like november of 2024
lone bloom
So its literally now Tac -> Hammerhead -> Polaris
agile tinsel
I'll be melting my m2 for the TAC probably lol
agile tinsel
ye, but the TAC I feel like would be more versatile
M2 is more of a bounty ship, and I already have a corsair
lone bloom
"mimimi its a patrol vessel" it has dropseats and is build like a dropship with some heavy guns 
agile tinsel
"mimimi its a patrol vessel" it has dropseats and is build like a dropship with ...
"some heavy guns" 
2x s5 and 2x s4 turrets
agile tinsel
no, I mean that heavy guns is an understatement for what it is
lone bloom
Hmm if i think about it
agile tinsel
the fact it has 4 s5's total, and 8 s4's total is insane
lone bloom
Its literally similar weaponry of the pre-nerfed redeemer
Just with way worse turret placement
lone bloom
the s5's are more situated for covering infantry
thats why i'm saying its literally just a assault dropship
agile tinsel
I personally believe the s5's should have been the two manned turrets on top, with the two bottom ones being the covering ones with s4's
cause s5's are a little overkill for killing some infantry lol
lone bloom
If they wouldn't have put the dropseats in the cargo area and just... let the cargo area there plus the medbay it would be a different situation but rn you lose pretty much almost the entire cargo capacity just to gain a medbay
agile tinsel
If they wouldn't have put the dropseats in the cargo area and just... let the ca...
honestly, it's a huge win, I'd choose a medbay over ~32 SCU of cargo space any day
agile tinsel
it's not that big of a med bay, and I doubt you can double stack 32 SCU boxes there
lone bloom
I meant in the max
lone bloom
If you would use the room of 2x 32 for the medbay
and the other half for cargo
you would still be able to fit 4x 32 on grid
and 6x 32 offgrid
agile tinsel
yeah, max has a ton of offgrid cargo lol
lone bloom
with the dropseats you can max haul 2x 32 on grid and 4x 32 offgrid
with the tac
Just by simply replacing the dropseat area would've gained you 2x 32
prefer 2x 32 over useless dropseats yk
lone bloom
Like Cargo bay back room 2 (4x 32) then the medbay
and after the medbay a smaller second cargo room like the max just with 2x 32 instead of 4
Could easily have been modular btw too
Max being the civilian budget version, TAC being the military version with an additional shield and two additional side turrets
The bottom cargo bay (the "lift) could've been modular with a Medbay + Dropseats - Medbay with cargo - or full cargo
And the top habitation room could've been also modular with like the hangar or habitation, or maybe room for "special" cargo
Basically a mini galaxy - but better balanced
lone tundra
lone bloom
FDM Printer pf
lone tundra
*FDM Printer* pf
it's 10 times the size of what my resin printer can do in a single object :( I like it
lone bloom
Time to buy an better/bigger resin printer then 
lone tundra
Time to buy an better/bigger resin printer then <:hahhhhh:779384970958995486>
Nah, the one I was using is currently decommissioned and sitting around taking up space, I really disliked resin printing
Maybe when the Jupiter 2 launches, should be fairly cheap and way easier to deal with, auto feeds and recycles the resin and stuff
lone tundra
Wait - they make a jupiter 2
302.40 x 161.98 x 300.00 mm build volume. Was recently announced. https://www.elegoo.com/blogs/news/elegoo-debuts-jupiter-2-large-format-resin-3d-printer-for-bigger-ideas-and-smarter-engineering-at-rapid-tct-2025
lone bloom
the 16.2 cm are kinda weird
Why not 30x30x30
U sure it will be fairly cheap? I mean it will be sure more expensive than the Saturn 1
uh i mean jupiter 1*
lone tundra
Probably only $1,000
lone tundra
Yeah. Wish it could be as cheap as the Centauri Carbon - $300 for that thing has been wild
lone tundra
They pulled it off with the CC somehow, I just paid $300 for a Neptune 4 Pro in early February, then that came along at the same price, larger build volume, and can actually do Nylons, Polycarbonate, etc lol
I guess the screens for resin are expensive though
lone bloom
Well was planning on buying a Saturn 4 Ultra 16K someday (depending on when I am able to get one probably also Saturn 5 instead)
Yeah printed in my designer school with FDM printers and hated it - so I want resin printers idc if they are 100-200 bucks more expensive
lone tundra
Well was planning on buying a Saturn 4 Ultra 16K someday (depending on when I am...
I just have the Mars 5 Ultra, pretty tiny and it sucked to deal with. Tore the FEP multiple times already, once was on a fresh film which is why I got too frustrated and it's sitting in storage atm
lone bloom
tbf sounds like a user error if something breaks on an fresh new printer
humble anvil
Unless it doesn't go up in price
lone bloom
Tac still bad
But since you got / had a mars 5 do you know how much watt/per hour it sucks to print?
lone tundra
tbf sounds like a user error if something breaks on an fresh new printer <:what:...
Was my first time for 3d printing entirely so yeah definitely, many fuck ups abound with resin stuff because of all the weird quirks, especially on that lower end printer.
The auto feeding/recycling, heated chamber and such would have made it way easier and more stable to learn on
lone bloom
funfact they sell meanwhile small heaters for the saturn
Instead of those carbon filters
And they seem to be pretty good
lone tundra
But since you got / had a mars 5 do you know how much watt/per hour it sucks to ...
Idle ~9 watts, in use with UV light is about 50 watts total.
150mm/hour
lone bloom
so...
basically nothing
Yeah just wanted to know that since I am still living with my parents - and they argued that they knew someone with an FDM printer and they said it sucks extreme energy and mimimi energy costs and so on
While even a freaking TV sucks more per hour
my freaking GPU alone sucks more per hour
lone tundra
Yeah just wanted to know that since I am still living with my parents - and they...
The FDMs are definitely a bit more power hungry - the Centauri Carbon can pull 350w at max power, but that is with the ridiculously loud fans on, printing at 310c+ nozzle, 110c+ bed temp and such
That's about as much power as a 5080 running at max though
lone bloom
Told them so too that they are more power hungry
But they didn't care
I mean I am running with an overclocked 4080 - has about 400 MW/H consumption per hour so far i remember
at least if it runs on 90-100%
lone tundra
I mean I am running with an overclocked 4080 - has about 400 MW/H consumption pe...
Nah, should be about 320-350 watts for that
lone bloom
Idle ~9 watts, in use with UV light is about 50 watts total.
150mm/hour
But since the Mars 5 only needs like 9-50 watts/Hour I assume since the Saturn is slightly bigger - 15-80/hour
lone bloom
Nah, should be about 320-350 watts for that
Yeah dunno the correct numbers anymore lol
I mean its different from each manufacture
Ah looked it up max power is 320 W
And our huge Oled TV needs about 150 W/Hour but I am not allowed to buy a saturn that just needs like 40% of that
Did you print anything successfull with the mars?
lone tundra
Did you print anything successfull with the mars?
Mostly failures due to inexperience and laziness (not splitting parts and such)
lone bloom
The detail difference Printed a percy with an 6Kā¬$ FDM printer and the quality was absolute garbage
lone tundra
lone bloom
Ah the cone of calibration
lone tundra
I liked that a lot, surprised the beer went into the mug perfectly, same for the sword, even though the sword broke in half trying to get it out
lone bloom
The detail difference <:kekw:875083074956820540> Printed a percy with an 6Kā¬$ F...
Tried to overpaint the shit quality so it isn't that obvious anymore - didn't worked it just caused the paint to be shitty too
Thats why I would never go and buy an FDM printer, they take way too long for something that small, even on low quality (compared to a resin printer)
Only worth it for huge projects like Cosplay or wall decorations or stuff like that
Was printed with that one
pine root
Mostly failures due to inexperience and laziness (not splitting parts and such)
Hmm
I've yet to "steal" the printing queue of the one we have at work, it's for dental resin piece modeling but still does a great job
lone bloom
pine root
I installed the whole damm thing because no one knew how to install it and get it in the network, so they owe me, and they told me to print anything I wanted
pine root
humble anvil
9800x3d is sold out everywhere that would offer a good deal....
and im half coping to get a 9900x or something instead
pine root
I just made a leg bag and headphone holder
lone tundra
Thats why I would never go and buy an FDM printer, they take way too long for so...
That looks about the size of the Perseus I'm printing atm, I think, which will be about 40 hours total
lone bloom
That looks about the size of the Perseus I'm printing atm, I think, which will b...
its 13 cm
Was done in like 11 hours
lone tundra
Oh wow
That front Perseus part is 25.4 cm, 11 hours to print
A benchy comes out at 15 mins for me though
lone bloom
Yeah knowing that something twice as big only takes max 8 hours on a Resin printer with like 20x better quality sucks
And if you use all 5 braincells even 4x as big on one plate
and still only takes 8 hours
lone bloom
That front Perseus part is 25.4 cm, 11 hours to print
Fast setting tho or zero infill?
Also why do you guys always cut it in the bridge section
I know its the middle but why
lone tundra
Fast setting tho or zero infill?
I print at 200mm/s for that kind of thing. 10% infill.
500mm/s is the max I can do
lone tundra
Should be about 24 inches (~61cm) when put together. Gonna actually sand that one down, prime it, paint it a bit
lone bloom
People say FDM printers are cheaper but now 100% knowing they suck way more watts per hour are they really still cheaper considering that?
I mean they print 2-4x aslong and need more energy
Pretty sure that makes resin printers after 1~ year of usage cheaper longterm wise
even if resin costs more
pine root
Should be about 24 inches (~61cm) when put together. Gonna actually sand that on...
We need to see that >:C
lone bloom
We need to see that >:C
she already posted the photo of the tip
lone bloom
<:Perseus_1:953662389230903296>
@pine root
pine root
Yep, but I want the FULL PERSEUS POWAAH
lone tundra
People say FDM printers are cheaper but now 100% knowing they suck way more watt...
It depends on what you're printing, its only using high amounts of power at ultra high temps or initial heating
lone tundra
We need to see that >:C
18 hours to go
lone bloom
oh god the thick amount of supports
pine root
lone bloom
Imagine and JDF sells those for hundreds of bucks
not painted - nor finished - not even freaking removing the supports
And want so much money for something that did cost maybe 5-20ā¬$ in production
lone bloom
https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-22712908
There are some really good prints (google pictures)
CIG hates that trick if people print them themselfes instead of buying them
lone tundra
It's basically all in the paint though :( I still need to buy an airbrush and learn painting
lone bloom
Glad I won't have to worry about that
I print - my BF paints them (no the percy was painted by me just with a shitty brush)
lone bloom
Tbf its against TOS to upload them
I mean the 3D Printable ones
But I assume we all know why it is against TOS
Why giving it out for free if you could make shit load of money with it
If they would paint them and you get like the entire finished set then I would understand the price - but those lazy f+cks just ship it straight from the printing plate
lone tundra
If they would paint them and you get like the entire finished set then I would u...
If they would paint them I would have just bought that instead, anime figs run $500+ but you're expecting real quality at those prices
lone bloom
Yeah thats what I am saying, then you wouldn't just pay for the print itsself but also for assembly (if its not just a "one print") and license correct 1:1 print
lone tundra
yeah :(
lone bloom
But what they sell is literally just the ones you can get for free on the web
And print yourself better
for way less
And I bet they would sell a shit ton of those if they would put more effort into it
When people are already ready to pay thousands of dollars just for the "pictures" and the hopium to get the ships one day ingame
They would pay the same amount for a physical item of them
A... car? infact 3 of them
you don't have permission for that?
POV: Olsson
Because only the cool ones have access
Hm If I think about it - why is there no dedicated SC 3D Printing channel?
lone tundra
I think it's OK to link to it since it'll show no access for non regulars
lone tundra
Hm If I think about it - why is there no dedicated SC 3D Printing channel? <:yea...
Used to have an art channel, got nuked to make room for other stuff
lone bloom
Yeah didn't even know about the channel myself tbf till now
cursive drum
Let me in!
lone bloom
I think it's OK to link to it since it'll show no access for non regulars
Uh its better to delete my messages about that one then after seeing whats happening now?
cursive drum
I think it's OK to link to it since it'll show no access for non regulars
Let me in by the hair on my chinny chin chin!
lone tundra
I'll repost them here though
pine root
There I deleted mine too just in case
pine root
I'll repost them here though
Those look amazing
lone tundra
tbf Titan one is weird
I think it's fully articulated, they made an articulating Hull A too
lone bloom
lone tundra
I kinda want to print it larger, add in a place for motors to actually have the ramp come down automatically and such
lone bloom
Wouldn't that require you to open it after printing? Or adding an hatch to it pre print via modeling?
Honestly would like to see a perseus with mini LED lights implemented
Like people do on huge Lego builds
that just 3D printed with a perseus 
lone tundra
Wouldn't that require you to open it after printing? Or adding an hatch to it pr...
It's all in pieces, so it would work out of the box on that particular model
lone bloom
Fair, I prefer 1-2 pieces prints instead of having it to assamble
lone tundra
Honestly would like to see a perseus with mini LED lights implemented
It's super doable, here's a reference for a Nyx print I was doing
lone bloom
I know its doable, but surely is connected to quite some effort
Drilling the holes, or having it directly to print like that
lone tundra
Oh tons, probably 10 hours of labor or more for that
lone bloom
Suprised that rarely people print landingpads to place their printed ships on those
Saw that someone did that last Citizenscon in the fan area
Didn't saw that one
lone bloom
Suprised that rarely people print landingpads to place their printed ships on th...
Missed opportunity to paint the ships on those pads ngl
But having an landingpad, I myself would model some boxes, maybe here and there depending on ship size also a tanking car (like they showed in one of the galaxy artworks?) in there aswell to add more dynamic into them
Would be way cooler to display them
Could add here and there also LED's on the pads so you don't have to struggle with adding them to the ships themselfes
They also displayed the F8C and Gladius @pine root
pine root
Damn those look awesome tbh
lone bloom
The power of Resin Printing
Even if they did it with injection mold but resin printing has either way pretty much the same quality
Those are the same dudes that printed the Bengal and Jericho station
Looks like those are competitors for JDF
They are named "Planet Ring Heavy Industry"
lone bloom
Those are the same dudes that printed the Bengal and Jericho station
Cannot find a better picture/angle
So far I understand it they wanna sell 2 kits one for assembling it yourself and one fully assembled and done model
also painted
humble anvil
new ptu update tonight
lone bloom
new ptu update tonight
No it won't include the percy before you ask
lone bloom
they can hotpatch it in a day before the RSI panel anyways
They would test it in PTU before releasing it
humble anvil
TAC prob in this patch
lone tundra
Even if they did it with injection mold but resin printing has either way pretty...
Those are injection molded IIRC, but they look absolutely fantastic. Glue free snap fit and ready to go at that quality is great. If they do a Perseus I'll probably pick it up to compare against what I can do.
And they're rolling out both assembly kits, and painted models at the same time....smart
round zodiac
most i can expect is exterior demo like Polaris did
pine root
That's a guardian!
lone bloom
200K to refill for an 50K mission
cursive drum
Wait, what? FR??
humble anvil
ye
Perseus is going to have ALOT of ammo
please dont be shit
Idris Railgun has 500 ammo lol
wait a minute....
they made this change i bet because of the ai mission....
especially because of the Polaris mission....
lone bloom
Got the feeling the poolaris wont survive even close enough to shoot so many bullets
Especially since you can veeeeery easily avoid the Main turret
cursive drum
Idris Railgun has 500 ammo lol
What?!?
humble anvil
What?!?
yep
but it also has a 2 minute cooldown or something between shots
idk why its 500
it just is
cursive drum
but it also has a 2 minute cooldown or something between shots
I thought it gets 2 RPM?
I thought it was 18?!?
cursive drum
Is it finally releasing, orā¦
reef wind
Both require stealing
cursive drum
And isnāt that more than some small gatlings??
reef wind
More shots than some cannons too
cursive drum
reef wind
If the idris gets released this year then awesome but not getting my hopes up
It needs a counter and a balance to its armament
cursive drum
People were thinking Idris P.
cursive drum
It needs a counter and a balance to its armament
Itās called moving.
Justā¦ move out of the aim of the spinal weapon on the capital ship.
reef wind
Itās called moving.
I was talking more in line with overall armament. Railgun is easy enough to avoid. What is needed is something around equal size or equal firepower/armor to have engaging battles with it
cursive drum
I was talking more in line with overall armament. Railgun is easy enough to avoi...
It is incredibly big and slow. Eventually, Kraken and Javelin will be able to compete with it but it wonāt be that bad since it is hull limited. Not nearly as numerous as Polaris.
reef wind
A lot of the polaris right now are loaners too
cursive drum
A lot of the polaris right now are loaners too
Also very true. Which sux because my Perseus would be a lot less problematic.
pine root
So, hear me out
lone tundra
So, hear me out
pine root
Ngl long persy looks nice
lone tundra
Needs one more turret there :x
pine root
Upsize the gun and move it back a little bit
cursive drum
Ngl long persy looks nice
VLS Silos go brrrt.
cursive drum
So, hear me out
Letās call this one the āBattlediagonalizerā because it tips the odds in our favor Every. Single. Time.
reef wind
Upgrade long perseus to Venator class
lone bloom
crystal sleet
lone tundra
Still needs cleanup, didn't even think it'd be done before I go to bed
humble anvil
Still needs cleanup, didn't even think it'd be done before I go to bed
This is cool
humble anvil
Well fuck
steel sparrow
7 dollars?
humble anvil
bro c'mon this is not your personal shitpost channel
yes it is
We can all get a little off topic, but here.. We're Perseus Pals. Hate me or Like me, it doesnt change that we're here for the same thing. The Perseus
tepid wasp
bro c'mon this is not your personal shitpost channel
Folks posting like its Live Journal / Tumblr up in here
grave canyon
We can all get a little off topic, but here.. We're Perseus Pals. Hate me or Li...
no i do not care about your mcdonalds home page fam
and i bet most people here don't either
just go to off topic to post that
grave canyon
Folks posting like its Live Journal / Tumblr up in here
yeah he really be using this place like his blog the last few days
kinda weird
grave canyon
bruh
steel sparrow
humble anvil
sorry there's nothing of substance for us to glaze over so its usually devolves into copium, shitposts, and the 1% off chance actual discussion on the Perseus
humble anvil
HOO didnt know about new audio
i know with those guns getting alot of ammo, the Perseus is looking good for it
especially since it'll have more range.. sure it will be hard to hit from afar but it'll be so good. 
cursive drum
New audio for s6 on Polaris
Where??
grave canyon
sorry there's nothing of substance for us to glaze over so its usually devolves ...
wish there was a channel for the shitposts so that this channel wouldn't have your mcdonalds home page on it
oh wait, there is #shipposting
humble anvil
You still going on about that?
We're waaaay past that
Look dawg, Yeah you're right, it was a bit offtopic but get over yourself. We allllllllllllllll slip up. big whoopdy fucking doo
i wish we had perseus leaks
Missle turrets PDCs were data mined. š So theres that
raw lichen
Perseus is life with the volume turned up.
grave canyon
You still going on about that?
i literally responded to you talking about it you absolute goose
grave canyon
Look dawg, Yeah you're right, it was a bit offtopic but get over yourself. We al...
you must really lack friends to be shitposting here for the last 3 days dawg
whatever
humble anvil
womp womp.
lone bloom
You still going on about that?
he did not care about it when I did chat with Iris and Olsson for hours about 3D Printing in here
humble anvil
*he did not care about it when I did chat with Iris and Olsson for hours about 3...
xd
each their own. its alright
Back to the Persy shitposting
lone bloom
humble anvil
i went to play SC and immediately got kicked out on a 30k lol
something about handle exception
and then couldnt rejoin the game
xddd
lone bloom
Some would say its a sign
grave canyon
*he did not care about it when I did chat with Iris and Olsson for hours about 3...
because i read everything in this channel at all times
lone bloom
because i read everything in this channel at all times
Currently also not playing much SC because the things I am most interested in and would probably play daylie aren't ingame yet (Basebuilding + Crafting, Perseus, Bounty V2)
humble anvil
yeah...
yeahhhhhh
4.1.1 has the new foxwell missions are they're semi enjoyable but would really like the Perseus before getting into all that.
Then of course crafting... God man... mining for nothing sucks
and Base building... would be nice to settle out somewhere..
lone bloom
I would probably do nothing else for months other than grinding for basebuilding
lone tundra
size comparison with normal 100% keyboard
humble anvil
Hunting for 90%+ Quality of any ore for pristine crafting bits would be a journey weighted in gold compared to the auec lowzy grind we have now
lone tundra
wtf are the whispy antenna things on the rear nacelles of the Perseus, anyway
they failed to print so now I have to add them in myself :(
lone bloom
size comparison with normal 100% keyboard
I hope you use sandpaper still on it
humble anvil
Stabilizing rods?
lone bloom
wtf are the whispy antenna things on the rear nacelles of the Perseus, anyway
I have them as extra STL standalone
humble anvil
I think the Devs would sa "Cool" points
lone bloom
Because of that
lone tundra
I hope you use sandpaper still on it <:yeah:954999101223743499>
I still have to remove all the support from it, but I'll be too busy today to get to it
I need some kind of stand for it too
lone bloom
I modeled one as I printed them in school It was printed with it xD
lone bloom
I think the Devs would sa "Cool" points
I would more say like radar antennas or something like that
Or communication
Bengal has them too
Just on the bridge
lone tundra
I modeled one as I printed them in school <:yeah:954999101223743499> It was pri...
Guess I'll work something out, maybe do it in transparent polycarb for funsies. I haven't 3d modeled anything yet though, it's not a skill I have atm
lone bloom
I still have to remove all the support from it, but I'll be too busy today to ge...
Supports are another reason why I don't like FDM printing, you need way more supports and they are way harder to get off - and most of the time leave scars
Noticed that its the worst especially in "narrow" areas like between the engines
lone bloom
Guess I'll work something out, maybe do it in transparent polycarb for funsies. ...
Well its better to think about a stand before printing so you can print the model directly in mind with somewhere connecting it Used the Cargo Bay Elevator for my one
Also needed multiple trys for it to actually.... stand and not tip over
lone tundra
Supports are another reason why I don't like FDM printing, you need way more sup...
I don't know why but I ran into that with Cura which was a piece of shit and old.
Once I moved to Orca, even their auto support interface is very very light and precise, I haven't had many scars yet, and supports pull right off
sometimes the supports even stay on the baseplate xD
lone bloom
Fair, just hat the experience with the Ultimaker and lets say you needed actual tools to get them off
lone tundra
I still use small awls, scalpels, tiny tweezers, then I go over the areas with small files if there's anything left
The engine parts, like you said, are the most problematic
humble anvil
What do you guys think would be a good ship besides. : Perseus, Galaxy, Arrastra ?
humble anvil
Basebuilding, crafting
lone bloom
You can craft in your base - and most likely don't need a galaxy for basebuilding
humble anvil
well shit
lone bloom
SL BLD has also L drones
And worst case you ask someone with a pioneer to borrow one XL drone so he builds you the L building tower, granting you 4L drones and you can go from there
lone tundra
Yeah, Galaxy is a bad ship imo
lone bloom
Just gets outclassed pretty much everywhere
Medical? Apollo - Is cheaper - faster - smaller
Refining or and Cargo (additonally mining) Arrastra - Cheaper - Bigger - more cargo - doesn't need an mining ship additionally
lone tundra
I did a whole writeup for the mining scenario. Arrastra destroyed the prospect of the Galaxy.
lone bloom
Basebuilding? Ask someone else for the L building tower or hope they make it progressive so you can build the L tower with M drones
I honestly don't get the Refining Module at all
Like, why would you use it?
lone tundra
It was interesting pre-Arrastra, to some degree
lone bloom
You lose 80% of your total cargo - you need an literal extra mining ship for it to work in the first place - and barely have cargo capacity to move said refined cargo afterwards
Its a shit concept
humble anvil
its cooked
lone bloom
Galaxy reallly looks great but the only usefull module is the cargo module and for the cargo it can carry iits way to large xD
(and Arrastra still holds more cargo)
lone tundra
Galaxy reallly looks great but the only usefull module is the cargo module and f...
also costs the same as an Ironclad for that setup.
humble anvil
im working on the Arrastra next anyways
lone bloom
also costs the same as an Ironclad for that setup.
Thats way worse
1K SCU vs 500+~ ish xD
lone bloom
Either they stick to the concept or have to upsize the galaxy alot
For it to make sense
aka buffing the modules
lone bloom
Perseus and Arrastra though...literally perfect ships.
Just missing an Salvager there but we don't have an RSI Salvager (or anything as medium or large salvager)
lone tundra
Either they stick to the concept or have to upsize the galaxy alot
If they ditched the gantry bs they could squeeze way more than just 512 into the cargo module I think.
For medical, might get balanced as holding 4x as much consumables as the Apollo.
For mining....it would have to out-refine an Arrastra to be worth it, and store more minerals inside the refiners instead of exterior boxes. That one would be weird to balance
lone bloom
'gantry'?
lone tundra
It has a gantry structure on the top of the cargo module, that holds cranes with moving tractor beams like the Ironclad.
lone bloom
Ah those ones
I mean they are outdated either way
and got removed from the Raft too
poor merchantman has to be reworked - again
lone tundra
I'm just hoping for a full reconcept at this point
lone bloom
For the galaxy?
lone bloom
But its large
humble anvil
or apollo
lone bloom
isn't it even bigger than the perseus?
Its sub capital isn't it
It is larger
Wasn't there also a smaller ship that only does refining?
Was something from misc
Ah Expanse
lone tundra
isn't it even bigger than the perseus?
yes
lone bloom
Isn't that pretty much the same useless thing as the refining of the galaxy
lone bloom
So arrastra outplays expanse and galaxy
The need of an second dedicated mining ship is straight up shit
lone tundra
Bigger is better seems to be their direction. When they said that extra large building drones would be more efficient, way faster, etc than large drones...they communicated that intent, IMO
lone bloom
I mean bigger should be better at doing the same job than a smaller ship or not?
lone tundra
It should, but it does kill the reason of existence for smaller stuff in some cases
No reason to say, take a few BLDs to build a large base, if a single Pioneer might get it done 2-3x faster
lone bloom
I mean same could be said about the Orion
She does all the things the Arrastra can, just better
Yet - I would never buy a Orion
lone tundra
If I had to stick with just a single ship, it'd be an Orion
It has fair limitations though. MASSIVE, can't really mine on planets or even really go to them
Arrastra doesn't have that, so it straight outperforms the alternatives
lone bloom
If I had to stick with just a single ship, it'd be an Orion
Then I am here only with my shitty Lancer Max because I don't want to pledge that much into the game
lone bloom
Arrastra doesn't have that, so it straight outperforms the alternatives
Fair but good thing Arrastra does not mean you can mine "everything"
Since they want / did split Mining into 3 categories
lone bloom
Base Mining, Hand/Roc mining, Ship Mining
lone tundra
Base Mining, Hand/Roc mining, Ship Mining
Yeah for mining I think the direction may be to make every scale-tier its own thing. Ultra rare, high value materials by hand mining, but obviously low volume. Then an Orion would be ultra high volume, common materials, low value
lone bloom
Probably
I mean Arrastra can do at least two of them
Since it can carry rocs / or Geos
lone tundra
Might also be fine for general ship mining though but I don't know if a S3 head would be too much power for stuff since I don't think I've ever actually mined
lone bloom
If I would have a Percy or and Arrastra I wouldn't need any other ship for a very long time Fullfills everything I need/want except basebuilding
lone bloom
Might also be fine for general ship mining though but I don't know if a S3 head ...
I did mine a few times but mostly just because of an event requiring it or because someone in my friend list said "ello i want to mine do you wanna come with me" xD
But Mining is very surely required for crafting and basebuilding unless you wanna buy all the materials
Which could become quite expensive I assume
Especially If you are a crazy hobbybuilder like me
*Just for it all to be nuked by an A2 or glitch or bug *
Even while I know that basebuilding will probably become a "well you pay - you get the good decoration or you grind ingame for it and its 'acceptable' but not really good looking" stuff like Once Human or Sims
Afterall they start already selling overpriced decoration stuff for hangars
Any recommendation to upgrade the SL Max to btw?
Considering that I want mainly bounty hunting - solo most of the time + bit of cargo
lone tundra
Considering that I want mainly bounty hunting - solo most of the time + bit of c...
Would need to see how blades shake out for long term recommendations tbh.
If you can actually blade all the turrets, a lot more options would get opened up. It'll shift recommendations A LOT.
Like, the Galaxy even comes to mind as a nice ship for that if you could blade the turrets. 6x S5, can have a C8R in the hangar for low tier medical, would hold a large amount of cargo
Or TAC, I guess
lone bloom
Just as we trashtalked about the galaxy before
humble anvil
hm
lone tundra
I know right
lone bloom
I would really like to get to the percy, but thats just like 3x more than the SL Max and that aint happening
Was thinking about paladin, but that one has 0 cargo
lone tundra
I would really like to get to the percy, but thats just like 3x more than the SL...
If you're putting in a little bit of money over the next few years you can totally get to it for cheap.
lone bloom
How much was the galaxy? 380? 350?
lone tundra
380 MSRP, empty
lone tundra
Eh...can still throw cargo into that empty space
lone bloom
Kind of yeah, assuming it still has an elevator or anything there
lone tundra
It won't, but you can access it through the hangar door
lone bloom
Kinda weird that they don't say instead of no module you get the cargo one for free
Basically as stock module
lone tundra
would basically just be like this
lone bloom
Dunno from where those pictures are - but looks like 32 boxes fit through the door there at least
Maybe the Asgard will be an good upgrade depending on what it will be
pine root
So galaxy bad? I've got one plenged but I already have a CCU to a carrack in case it sucks
lone bloom
Carrack bad too tho
Galaxy is only good if you don't have any of the other ships that would make it invalid to have
humble anvil
would basically just be like this
damn that sucks
shiiiit
well good thing im working on the Arrastra next lol cause that thing needs to cook
lone bloom
damn that sucks
Pretty much the same scheme as in the Retalliator, since it also can have "zero modules" but those are literally useless if you don't have one
Since you don't have an elevator there without the cargo module and you cannot get containers through the hallways
pine root
Carrack bad too tho
Why carrack bad? 
lone bloom
let alone through the door
lone bloom
Why carrack bad? <:CE_UglyCry2:951977660723126272>
always been bad
For cargo its pretty much unusable - for PvE or PvP fighting its pretty much unusable without crew (depending on blades soontm) and its main gameplay loop aka exploration isn't ingame nor its actually announced to come anytime soon
lone tundra
Since you don't have an elevator there without the cargo module and you cannot g...
They should fit through the hangar door at least.
The problem is that the hangar is high off the ground when it is landed. Would need to use an MPUV-T or something.
pine root
It's a nice exploration ship š¦ I mean if the expected modularity comes into play and taking into account the repair and all that stuff that has still not released
lone bloom
They should fit through the hangar door at least.
The problem is that the hanga...
Yeah I meant in case of the retalliator :p
lone bloom
lone tundra
Can fit Pulses down the hallways at least
lone bloom
Really hope the Asgard is an Connie, SL, Corsair competitor
Then I might have an option to upgrade to
lone tundra
Really hope the Asgard is an Connie, SL, Corsair competitor
Current speculation I've worked out:
Hollowed out Valkyrie with remote turrets, can carry Ballistas and Novas at less than half the size of a C2
lone bloom
Wouldn't mind that
Aslong it has 4x S4 pilot controlled weapons or bigger
- turrets ofc for its size
lone tundra
I didn't even think about the guns. If it has a bunch of S4s or even some S5s, would be VERY interesting then
lone bloom
I mean the audio was about "bringing the heavy guns" sure they mean by that maybe tanks or ballistas but might also be guns on the ship
Dual S6 would also be great
lone tundra
It transports the military's "heavy hitters" or whatever the specific language was, I took that to mean Novas and Ballistas, since only 4 ships can carry those atm
Unfortunately the military transports we've seen have been fairly lightly gunned, like the Liberator
lone bloom
4 ? what else can carry them besides the Herku series and Polaris?
lone tundra
890, C2, M2, A2 are the only ships that can carry a Nova atm
pine root
Why not use the ballista while being carried? That sure is a thing
lone bloom
Or the other thing with the quad S4
lone bloom
Budget perseus
Or I wait and see how much the SL BLD costs if they should announce / sell it ILW
Then I can do at least basebuilding and still 'somewhat' bounties
humble anvil
Seriously... I prefer anything over the Connie as long as it doesnt perform worse than it
lone bloom
Even while i fucking hate the mailslot cockpit
lone bloom
Seriously... I prefer anything over the Connie as long as it doesnt perform wors...
"aslong it doesn't perform worse than it"
So....
Only the corsair you say?
humble anvil
nothing
lone bloom
lone bloom
Yeah not many options left
humble anvil
nope
atleast with the perseus we'll have 1, and it certainly wont be in the middle where our redicle is
im currently doing these ambush missions and they're pretty neat
lone bloom
Yeah not playing PTU
And since they keep getting stuck with blockers I assume it won't get into live till 13th-14th
Just to say "Yeah guys and with the start of ILW we give you the new 4.1.1 Patch"
I do like the SL Max internally visually, but I absolutely hate the exterior of it, and its combat performance
lone bloom
Yeah don't understand that either
humble anvil
30 per player.. thats a nice org event right der
lone bloom
Isn't it an open mission?
lone bloom
the connie need downgraded
Either downgraded, or the SL upgraded at least
so you have at least 3 options in that size class to play
lone bloom
yeah its open mission everyone can take it
So technically soloable
Aslong enough other people show up
lone bloom
even while 2-3 ares are probably more than enough tho
lone bloom
destroying its engines and boarding it?
humble anvil
filled with connies, retaliators, buccaneers
humble anvil
theres like bunch of filler stuff before the polaris sits for damage
lone bloom
What are those crips used for either way?
Seen them in now 3 missions
I know they are some kind of currency but dunno what its used for
lone bloom
ANd a wikelo favor does what
humble anvil
humble anvil
go to satelite on ground, get keycards to get alignment blades. put alignment blades into satelite. Align satelite.
do this 3 times
take batteries from these ground satelites, take to orbital laser in sky, put batteries in.
prime the orbital laser, get keycard. go back to ground, put keycard into fire laser button
big cave opens up
lone bloom
get ganked by polaris - all progress lost
humble anvil
more like you get killed by a hornet flying around looking for an easy kill
lone bloom
Better of doing CZ's
Do pay Ambush / Patrol missions by now better than bounties?
And are worth the time doing or are bounties still better paid
humble anvil
And are worth the time doing or are bounties still better paid
bounties prob still better paid
lone bloom
humble anvil
yea
lone bloom
Do they have cargo?
lone bloom
Couldn't care less about the scrips if they are only usable for wikelo
humble anvil
lone bloom
Only that one, or did you only check that one?
humble anvil
the other rafts had cargo but it wasnt...
"good"
im about to kill another
i'll send what i get
trash
lone bloom
Encountered any C2 or such?
humble anvil
these are only orange
lone bloom
and you do?
humble anvil
i only see MIS, Cutty Black, and RAFT
there is andromeda Oranges but havent done them much as im out of missles lol
lone bloom
Hm perhaps they get better loot at "orange"
humble anvil
and the one i did do, didnt have cargo
lone bloom
there is andromeda Oranges but havent done them much as im out of missles lol
... thats so annoying that they keep putting that ship everywhere
Its just straight up way stronger than all other ships you encounter usually
humble anvil
i do see a MSR
humble anvil
got a taurus
will let ya know if any cargo
nope
wow
womp womp
i see why it doesnt.... they're using the 'do not take ship out of mission area' ship
humble anvil
i would an andromeda for the bladed turrets
lone bloom
Im really suprised btw, they fixxed the pilot view for the Idris
With the struds
And yet they didn't removed those two struds in the connie
Even while people keep complaining about it
lone bloom
i see why it doesnt.... they're using the 'do not take ship out of mission area'...
Thanks for reminding me that the SL has a bubble shield instead of quadrant
lone bloom
if the shield is down its down
No tactical ability at all
Thats why fighting connies in an SL is bullshit
Assuming the Tac also has bubble
lone bloom
Corsair is way easier to fight than connies
humble anvil
i shield cycle the connie it honestly
lone bloom
*when connie nerf
humble anvil
saves me so much
i thought about... if every ship was bubble... then it would get rid of shield cycle
lone bloom
Don't
humble anvil
but damn it would kinda mehh...
lone bloom
Bet its just a bug
humble anvil
corsair had shit
should be at red soon
but these ambush missions are nice.. these orange ones i kill a single corsair and i get
75k and 8 Scrips
legit 1 ship and 1 negligible escort ... SO FAR
this is the mission that the perseus would excel at...
lone bloom
Its a patrol ship afterall
Optional the Tac could be good but only if crewed or bladed
But with the tradeoff of cargo
humble anvil
@lone bloom So apparently.. you remember my dumb ass theory about them slipping in a last minute addition because of the missing exhibit?
SO APPARENTLY
"The Finale is always technically the last day, and sometimes showcases new vehicles or equipment"
humble anvil
What if its the ironclad and not the perseus? <:kekw:875083074956820540>
i wont be mad
heady escarp
What if its the ironclad and not the perseus? <:kekw:875083074956820540>
how many crew needed for ironclad?
heady escarp
tbh I tried hauling, it didnt suit my playstyle at all. it takes ton of times, I prefer merc and bounties.
maybe one day when merchantman comes, just maybe.... I''ll think about it
lone bloom
Well if you want to basebuild in the future you have to cargo haul at least partially
humble anvil
yerrrr, i dont mess with hauling. I'll happily mine on the Arrastra and throw out bad stuff..
lone bloom
Bounties also includes cargo hauling at least if you wanna make additional profit
humble anvil
But thats the extent of my haulign
heady escarp
Well if you want to basebuild in the future you have to cargo haul at least part...
can't say no, tho I prefer generally the exploring aspect
I mean tbh, hauling has some issues right now
and even one of the best hauling ships they made (hull c), either works or doesnt
foggy beacon
ironclad have the potential of been a very powerful mobile base
can slap a lot of cargo, a nursa, and maybe even a light fighter inside of it
literally carries everything you need
lone bloom
Since 4 novas fit in there pretty sure 1-2 Medium fighters fit in there
lone bloom
grave canyon
ironclad have the potential of been a very powerful mobile base
ironclad goated
although how much more scu do we think the percy will get
i think it'll go up to at least 70-80
lone bloom
i think it'll go up to at least 70-80
Offgrid it can pack surely 400 minimum
Unless they make the cargo room smaller
grave canyon
i'm thinking they might give it a lil more length
lone bloom
i'm thinking they might give it a lil more length
There was already an leak that it grew 10-20 meters
Which is pretty normal for concept ships
grave canyon
nice, so very possible we get like 100 or more
lone bloom
Sad part is just that the Grid will be as stupid as the Reclaimer one
If you look at the concept artwork the grids are only at the walls and on the elevator
and pretty much ignoring 80% of the entire space xD
grave canyon
yeah, i'm hoping they do better
the job that they did with the polaris is not terrible, i kinda like it except for the tractor beam placement
so the percy might not be as bad as it was concepted
lone bloom
Yeah iad somewhere a screenshot of me trying out how many SCU fit in the cargo room technically
first floor was offgrid about 530 or so SCU
basically double that if you include the second floor
grave canyon
i mean if it can fit an ursa in there probably easy 128 on grid
the ursa is only a bit shorter and less wide than 2 32 scu containers no? if the room is tall enough that should just be 128 on it's own
or maybe 96
grave canyon
i think this assumes a way wider cargo floor though
lone bloom
Dunno, i mean the airlock is still a bit away
grave canyon
it assumes almost 3-4x the width of the bridge, i think it's more like 2x the bridge
lone bloom
And in the concept artwork the cargo bay is directly at the walls
lone bloom
was using that one
even if it shouldn't be as wide as I expect, you would only lose like 1x 32 and 1x 24
grave canyon
the bridge is about 2x the corridor
the bottom corridor looks slightly smaller than the top floor, although that might just be my brain
grave canyon
and i think it's fair to say the cargo grid is like 4x the size of that smaller corridor
so we can kinda assume it's about 2x the bridge width
lone bloom
Also 'we' used the ursa size back then since from the looks of it 3 ursas would fit next to each other in there
in terms of wideness
and since one ursa is as "wide" as 2x 32 containers almost....
grave canyon
i think the width is like 25-30m on the cargo bay
grave canyon
hmm
lone bloom
But even with your guess that its just 2x as wide as the bridge, is still enough place to stack a shit ton of 32 containers into it
just take the 3 ones in the middle away
grave canyon
yeah, that is true
lone bloom
Thats why I said 500+ scu with the "concept" scale and guess how big it is, realisticly probably 400+
grave canyon
if they do not nerf it by designing it worse it should hold at least 10 32 boxes on grid
lone bloom
You can see the grid in the concept artwork
the grid is garbage
because of the elevator
grave canyon
if 3 height is assumed then 480 is very easy
grave canyon
because of the elevator
idk man would it be smaller than a connie elevator
grave canyon
+ the catwalk in the middle in upper floor
yeah