Perseus Pals

[lone bloom]

But technically they wouldn't need the ret

[crystal sleet]

the Ret is stillprobs gonna be sortied with an escort fleet, but not need the use of an eccentric squadron

just point and shoot, the rest of the escort fleet protecting the Ret from precision fire from vanduul destroyers

[lone bloom]

Just an colossus fight

who will die first

[crystal sleet]

exactly

[lone bloom]

But humans only have one ret

while vanduuls have multiple kings

[crystal sleet]

whoever wins uses the other ship for repairs or to build a second ship

[crystal sleet]

the Humans got lucky with the Ret since its using a kingship as its base

as soon as a second kingship is available for use, theyll build sister ships

[lone bloom]

Probably the one on vega then

[crystal sleet]

the one at Vega was self destructed, the one the Ret uses had its entire vanduul crew killed by radiation by accident, leaving the ship unharmed

[lone bloom]

lmao

just shooting an nuclear reactor at an vanduul ship

[crystal sleet]

it was thanks to that kingship that we got the esperia blades and scythes, as well as actually seeing vanduul cutlure and themselves for the first time

[crystal sleet]

thats the funny thing, the UEE never had to do anythung, the vanduul did it to themselves via a radiation leak during an assumed maintenance

its was the Deus ex Machina of the UEE

[lone bloom]

hm

I wonder if we will see a perseus in SQ

[crystal sleet]

probs not since i think the battle of Vega happened after the battle bewteen the vanduul destroyers and aging Perseus mk1

[lone bloom]

well but the percy got "recommissioned" after that

so technically there could be already the Percy MK2

[crystal sleet]

the Perseus line was reactivated around 2950

wait when does SQ42 take place

[lone bloom]

2945

But doesn't say in which year it ends

[crystal sleet]

so the Perseus as we know it wouldnt be around by then, maybe a prototype Perseus mk2

[lone bloom]

Oh god i see weird promises on the wiki

And i doubt they will be true xD

"Squadron 42 will be divided in 3 chapters. Each Chapter will be the equivalent of a large AAA game campaign. Those three chapters are themselves subdivided into more chapters."

So SQ42 is supposed to be 3x an Battlefield 5? or Detroit become human in one game? doubt that

"Squadron 42 Episode Three will have to be bought separately"

[crystal sleet]

they probably mean they are planning to make three seperate games that uses a single "launcher" type platform like how modern warfare remastered had the campaign mode, multiplayer and warzone modes

[lone bloom]

So an game triology

like - the Jedi games

(Jedi fallen order - Jedi Survivor - Jedi (unknown yet))

[crystal sleet]

yuh, i suppose

[lone bloom]

That would be....

crazy because that means they needed just for chapter 1

15+ years

Also another weird thing i noticed

Squadron takes place in the Odin System

why don't they add that to SC once SQ is there?

Has even an jumpgate to Nyx

[crystal sleet]

probably to add more stuff to the Star Citizen version since we would be in the future

[lone bloom]

Perhaps but sounds like an easy system to implement

just updating it here and there to make it fit

and it has a cool moon

[crystal sleet]

maybe theyre planning on the Ret to accidently destroy a planet or moon

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/death-star-gif-14758637425007366681

It flies to the future and destroys hurston

[crystal sleet]

fuck, a time travel side story would go hard, imagine accidently going into the past and seeing the Zeus mk1

[lone bloom]

Maybe like a flashback cutscene

[crystal sleet]

or going into the future to almost getting rammed by a Perseus mk2

[lone bloom]

or quantum travel fail that moves you through time but just for a short amount of time

[crystal sleet]

or a historical footage

[crystal sleet]

quantum travelling near a blackhole might do that

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-gif-1143243728942780752

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-edurance-black-hole-blackhole-gif-19755562

[lone bloom]

Blackhole in SQ and SC would go hard

[crystal sleet]

i can see them doing it in SQ, SC would be hard with the maths that would go into simulating it, let alone how server emshing would work with how warped space in each server would be

[lone bloom]

I mean it doesn't have to be an 1:1 copy of an blackhole would just love it having the disc and if you get to close you get dragged near it and just simply destroyed if you come too close

[crystal sleet]

that would require a ship to be constantly accelerating at lightspeed around even the accretion disks, so we would need quantum boosting to stay around it

[lone bloom]

sure why not, make it a forced quantum boost then and if you don't boom dead

doesn't have to be hyper realistic its still just a game xd

[crystal sleet]

at that point, itd be the same as standard flight since youre going decently slow even with boost

[lone bloom]

somehow i get the feeling they gonna nerf that

[crystal sleet]

god thats terrifying to see, esp with the hangar doors missing

[lone bloom]

I doubt thats wanted like that

Makes it way too easy to just Board and steal an idris

[crystal sleet]

yeah i know, but man that looks cool. Like how a secondary bad guy group modifies stuff to look scarier, like skulls and stuff on their weapons and vehicles

[lone bloom]

Dunno where Foxyloxy has the infos from but claim time for idris 4 hours and expedite still over an hour, sounds like the polaris will have to be nerfed then aswell in terms of claim timer

(was kinda expectable I mean it has 18 min claim time... even the SL M has 15 min)

[crystal sleet]

what they say bout the idris?

[lone bloom]

wdym

[crystal sleet]

i mean what they say bout the claim times? Like did they say it would be 4 hrs?

[lone bloom]

foxy yes

but as i said dunno where he has the info from

normal claim time 4 hours, 13 min

expedite 1 hour 3 min 15 sec

and expedite cost 150K

[crystal sleet]

i didnt see Foxyloxys video, so i didnt know what you were saying lol

[lone bloom]

its his newest video

thats where I got the idris screenshot from xD

[crystal sleet]

oh i see

lemme go check it rq

[lone bloom]

honestly hope that Polaris also goes up to at least 40 ish minutes for expedite claim time

and ~100K for an expedite

[crystal sleet]

well it is a cap ship, gotta act like one

[lone bloom]

Yeah rn its more like a slightly larger hauler than the SL M in terms of claim time

xD

and thats straight up stupid

2x S7 turret on the tip? thought its S5?

[crystal sleet]

M gets s7, P and K gets s5

[lone bloom]

So.... Idris M is technically an bigger percy

Maybe its still an valuable 2 player ship (depending on how much blades/AI crew will cost) for Patrol missions/bounty hunting + salvage + looting the cargo some day

[summer fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1344674585366237194/Perseus.gif

[lone bloom]

I forgot about that shit pilot view

[crystal sleet]

they really need to put the pilot seats in cap ships in the centerline

[lone bloom]

or just freaking don't put stuff infront of the pilots face xD

major design fail

[crystal sleet]

guess they want the captain to guide the pilot

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-sure-john-candy-ok-gif-15377612

[humble anvil]

think pers will only get about 350/400 shots per cannon or a total of 700-800 per turret

imo is a little fucked

smh but then you fly away from the mission and it despawns

[lone bloom]

you forget the manual reloading of them

[humble anvil]

hope so

[crystal sleet]

unless if yheyre aiming to have us carry a ton more in the form of ammo boxes in the cargo hold

[humble anvil]

hope we can get more...

[lone bloom]

But what would be the issue here 400 shots is still enough to kill any bigger target

maybe besides the polaris

and even if not you have still a second turret with also 400 shots in that case so technically 800

• double that if for each gun

[pine root]

I hope that when perseus launch, the add for it will have this song in it
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxCoAJuzSXeBgd1EyGGGktXgsjrggzBEcw?si=5rJye05rmDhwd7PG

[crystal sleet]

oooooh, gun sync it to the beat

[humble anvil]

Good promo music

[humble anvil]

400 per gun or 800 per turret is A LOT.

Shit they could bespoke; Raise the Alpha lower ammo Cap, and I'll fk with it

[lone bloom]

800 x 2

• ability to reammo

isn't that bad

[humble anvil]

If it gets reammo

[lone bloom]

Its confirmed to get it

the question is just when

[humble anvil]

OwO

[lone bloom]

did you have read the Q&A like - at all? xd

[humble anvil]

Yah I saw the ammo types

[lone bloom]

I mean how are you otherwise supposed to swap the ammos?

[cursive drum]

Just leave the bottom turret on it.

[crystal sleet]

well i suppose the limited firingangles on teh bottom turet would e enough to let it stay

[humble anvil]

Rip the bottom turret

[lone bloom]

Hiding under the desk is relatable

Maybe thats where CIG is looking for more designers for the percy too

[humble anvil]

One day

look at the perseus i dont have

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1k3wtmt/me_trying_to_ignore_the_fact_perseus_probably/

[humble anvil]

I think we will get the Perseus at ILW, but it won't be flyable just yet due to "lore" reasons (but it's not actually finished)

Will see what CIG does for it

[humble anvil]

Crazy that they started teasing it, and then dropped it

For 4 years

Lol

I guess because big ships don't print money like the Atls or Intrepid does

Everyone buys a hover quad with LTI lol

[crystal sleet]

its always that soloable quality

[humble anvil]

Give us PDC AI on our Remote turrets CIG

[reef wind]

Perseus is going to get replaced by the argo concrete mixer

[grave canyon]

i'd be surprised with ilw launch

it's probably gonna be iae

[humble anvil]

I NEED IT

Please interior or exterior please

Both please

[lone bloom]

I can feel that meme

[steel sparrow]

"The headhunters has seized our shipping of Perseus, and will be delayed for another 10 years"

[humble anvil]

[raw lichen]

Summing up members of this chat

[crystal sleet]

bote

[steel sparrow]

it's beautiful

[pine root]

Aaah I see, another pico enjoyer

[raw lichen]

In Pico I trust

Our Perseus in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your guns come,
your kill be done,
in atmo as in space.
Give us today our daily ammunition.
Forgive us our claims,
as we forgive those who crash into us.
Lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from 'laris.
For the S7s, the power,
and the glory are yours
now and for ever.

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/lauryn-hill-sister-act-nope-none-hand-wave-gif-2974115183041441308

[humble anvil]

Amen

[lone bloom]

And now getting ready for the crusade of our holey perseus against all heretrics

https://tenor.com/view/crusade-gif-3839391787017042472

[humble anvil]

Besides the engine and the two little fins there is not a lot to break on this thing

Very excited

Wonder how well it will fare against AI

Consider AI shoot at center Mass

The cockpit is right in the middle

@lone bloom Isn't the cockpit supposed to be in vulnerable to damage

[lone bloom]

yep

AI / Blades got massively buffed in PTU btw

[humble anvil]

WHAT

[lone bloom]

Ofc your ship takes damage obviously still* but you cannot penetrate into the interior

[humble anvil]

AH okay I see

[lone bloom]

killing the pilot with ballistic

[humble anvil]

Ye

Tbh a missle clipped through and killed me on Corsair

[lone bloom]

well desync issue xD

You can also shoot in FPS the gunners out of a idris turret

from the outside

[humble anvil]

What happened bro

Tell me

[lone bloom]

Just seen foxys video from today (he used all ballistic idris) and they hit pretty much every shot by now

[humble anvil]

OOOOO

I'll check

[lone bloom]

But they just resist to shoot sometimes so they stop partially

even if the enemy is in sight

but perhaps that also been gun overheating

[humble anvil]

I'll check. Brb

[grave canyon]

i'm calling 100scu at least

[humble anvil]

watching it now

wow

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

i think the problem is the guns have a spin up i think

but they're deadly accurate

wew

[lone bloom]

AI blades soon?

[humble anvil]

they literally can...................... i hate CIG withholding the tech

[lone bloom]

would be a pretty cool suprise release for ILW

[humble anvil]

if foxy made these ballistic cannons

i think it would be better

they do alot of tap firing

but yeah what's going on here is a bit of a problem....

i think they'll make it just like how they do all the other foxwell missions. as soon as the ship goes out of the mission area - with mission or not

it dissapears

happens when there's a server jump lol

the fucking gatlings are shredding that hammerhead

if this makes it into live... in its current state... it will be detrimental to the balance of the game and any pvp

so many players with fully crewed ai railgun idris

[lone bloom]

doubt its going to live with that, way too easy to steal an idris

I mean - the doors are missing completely for some reason

and the ship stops for some reason aswell / pilot dies

[humble anvil]

thats how the connies are in fox well missions too

you can fly straight into the elevator / cargo bay

straight up missing them

idk why

[lone bloom]

Well but you aint gonna steal a connie

xD

[humble anvil]

i did the andromeda / phoenix but it just dissapears when you quantum away from the mission area

hey

it was nice seeing the turrets actually shoot at stuff while within the planet

[lone bloom]

Well blades would make bounty hunting alot easier I assume

Especially on ships with larger turrets

[reef wind]

You forgot the microwave part

[humble anvil]

Seems AI doesn't shoot when you're a criminal

[pine root]

LESGOOOOOOOOOOO

[crystal sleet]

istg if it isnt the Perseus i will exhale agressively

[wooden trench]

What date is invictus?

[lone bloom]

expect massive ships? what do they understand underneath "massive"

Either Asgard is NOT an valk variant like assumed, or perseus and ironclad is way further in production

[wooden trench]

Or a straight to flyable large

I assume we're getting a surprise CONU ship at some point as a pioneer design language libary ship

They've talked loads about it for RSI, MISC and drake so why jump straight to giant with CONU?

[lone bloom]

they did aswell with RSI, why the suprise?

they build first the large ships to have an huge asset liberary to speed up the smaller ones

I hope they don't mean the paladin and SL Tac by "massive ships"

Would be very disappointing if they meant those two with that

[agile tinsel]

that or the idris is releasing, even though they said it's supposed to release in PU with SQ42

[lone bloom]

They said the same for the F8

but "shipS"

Multiple

[agile tinsel]

yeah

[lone bloom]

I just really hope they don't meant the SL Tac and Paladin by that

because they're big yes, but not "massive"

Massive would be sup capital at least in my view

and the only sub caps in production are rn Ironclad and Percy or not?

also why the fuck fits a zeus in the Idris hangar

[cursive drum]

Everyone wants it and is calling that out as being irrelevant anymore. The excuse given was spoilers but we have already had an interior tour.

[agile tinsel]

yeah, I could see the idris releasing any time, I just like to keep in mind what they've said, especially since the statement about the idris release isn't that old

they should have pretty much all the work done for the idris, at least in SQ42

depends how quickly they can port it over I guess

[lone bloom]

we didn't had an interior tour of the idris

Only events that did include the interior

[cursive drum]

Last Invictus. An Idris available to tour. Like, unguided. Just go anywhere.

[lone bloom]

hm didn't saw it then

But either way - in both scenarios its a stupid excuse to not release it xD

[wooden trench]

Hopefully Javelin tour this year

[lone bloom]

you mean full javelin*

not just one floor

[cursive drum]

Agreed!

[cursive drum]

I want the entire thing. They even released S12 torpedos for it.

[lone bloom]

Imagine javelin release

[wooden trench]

Javelin tour haunts me every time I go to my hangar at orison. I only started playing during xenothreat too so while I've been on an idris this is my first invictus

[lone bloom]

Javelin is kinda... unspectaculare from the inside

because there is only one floor available

unless they changed it this ILW

(aka only hallways, mess hall and crew quarters)

[cursive drum]

Why??

[lone bloom]

But since they showed Javelin interior at citizenscon.... why not show more at ILW

[cursive drum]

Agreed!

[wooden trench]

Because it shows up on the elevator panel as the default option but just takes you to Sec port 1

[lone bloom]

Imagine - even if unlikely - perseus - ironcland and Idris P release

And javelin full tour

[fluid plume]

Cig instead releases Perseus-C, civilian variant with extra cargo but you lose big pew pew lol

[cursive drum]

You lose the guns but gain cargo.

[fluid plume]

Tbh I really want a bigger Perseus
Like Perseus the size of Polaris
Two turrets in front of bridge 1 behind bridge, galaxy style hangar between the engines, then cargo elevator on the bottom that can hold two nova’s

Would melt Polaris in heartbeat

[signal vortex]

Do it anyway and get more Perseus

[fluid plume]

I already have Perseus but Gonna hold onto Polaris until something decent comes out, been thinking about melting it for idris but tbh I don’t really like idris looks, rsi all the way for big ships

[lone bloom]

I just want a slightly bigger perseus with a railgun

Also - Am I the only one with the opinion that since a shield nullifies every damage from a single bullet thas over its own shield capacity that the damage it cannot shield against anymore just becomes component damage specific to the shield, potentially destroying it even?

[wooden trench]

I hope the bengal carrier isn't the only org craftable ship, I want to see some of those RSI bengal battleships flying about

[fluid plume]

Tbh I think the bengal should go back to its original plan of having to find it in the world and repair it maybe tow it back to your stations dock etc etc let the other bengal classes be the craftable types

Cause tbh letting us craft bengals is like the United States letting its civilians build their own nuclear super carriers

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

I mean they did not specify what happens if one destroys the bengal

(if it should be destroyable)

like - do they have to craft it again?

[humble anvil]

Massive ships

yerrrr

the idris

unless they mean it not literally

[lone bloom]

Somehow I expect them to mean the SL Tac and paladin

Also... since the Percy was originally in the vanduul war... had no cargo bay, weaker guns, no shields... and it got upgraded since then... does that mean technically, we will have the percy MK II?

[pine root]

Polaris needs a counter right now, be it the idris or the perseus, I would say it's logical to realease any of those

[cursive drum]

Agreed!

[cursive drum]

Agreed.

[fluid plume]

Counter to Polaris is A1

[pine root]

Well technically yes, but I mean, a proper ship, that doesn't require like, atmosphere and all that

[fluid plume]

The problem with Polaris is that it’s not really good, it’s just meaty, a few fighters could kill it, like a decent group could easily kill it, idris requires a lot more to kill it, idris is easily 10x more oppressive then Polaris

[cursive drum]

Only when the Polaris is landed and unshielded.

[cursive drum]

Idris is also just meaty.

[fluid plume]

Idris has actual good gimmick weapon and good turret loadout

[cursive drum]

Agreed. Stuff that can actually be used by people other than Jeff Bezos.

[lone bloom]

There is just the issue that the Idris will become simply the new polaris

[fluid plume]

But much much worse

[lone bloom]

all care bears will jump to an idris instead of a polaris

because way more hull HP

[fluid plume]

And that literally nothing to counter it

[lone bloom]

Well you can outrun it but it will be bad for stuff like JT

a group just sitting in their idris right over the JT facility is basicaly a win button unless another idris shows up

Either way - I assume if they release an Idris it will be the Idris P aka without the railgun

so Polaris has an counter - but not strong enough to be an "everything" killer

[fluid plume]

Pretty much

Polaris is okay but easily countered by handful of guys idris on the other hand you gonna need a fleet

[pine root]

If some spacedad soloes an idris it'd so easy to stalk it's rear door and just land inside

[lone bloom]

Depends - do you need an fleet to open the hangar?

[fluid plume]

I mean if the solo knows how to fly just spin to prevent landing

Also would require you to pack ballistics

[pine root]

You shouldn't, if you use ballistics

[pine root]

You can loose your wings, but you could still land inside

[lone bloom]

I mean once ballistic ammo manuall reloading comes in i will probably never use anything else but ballistic xD

[pine root]

Imagine a full ballistic scorpius with 2 ppl, it would delete that door, fold wings and step inside

[fluid plume]

Doesn’t really help with fighters where you gonna put the extra ammo

Especially if they decide to make them decent size boxes

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-space-jump-explosion-crash-gif-20129632

[pine root]

I expect different ammo box sizes

[lone bloom]

Dunno if that will work for fighters

but sure ships like SL (Tac?) - basically everything with Interior and a few SCU of storages will have the ability

[pine root]

Yeah, I don't think it will, you'd need somewhere to land, like a polaris

[lone bloom]

Oh god

[pine root]

Yep 100%

[lone bloom]

another thing they have to update on EVERY ship

even on smaller ones

[pine root]

[fluid plume]

They should come out with another corvette that is a better bridge between poor people and whales then what ever Polaris is suppose to be

[lone bloom]

Thats literally a huge plus point for the percy that it comes so late compared to other ships

since it comes with all the fresh juicy features

[lone bloom]

Ares?

Sure its not a "counter" but if ignored or not taken seriously it can fuck up a capital

[pine root]

Ares with an interior

[lone bloom]

Bet Inferno will be one of the first "smaller" ships that will get an manual reloading elevator thing

[pine root]

I mean, that would make sense

[fluid plume]

I mean against a solo that might work but you ever fought an idris on a working server, I watched it delete a corsair in less then 10 seconds without using the railgun

[lone bloom]

especially if its a good pilot... i mean its not that hard to stick to an blindspot of an polaris or Idris

I mean - I did it even with a HH

then it should be doable with an Ares

[cursive drum]

It’s hull limited and thus much less will be present balancing things out.

[fluid plume]

Against solo idris sure but if it’s crewed ares gonna get ripped apart

[lone bloom]

I did, multiple times, with an fully crewed hammerhead

turrets barely even had a chance to shoot back if you stay just a few meters behind its engines

[pine root]

Done that too, not with a HH but with a corsair and a connie

[humble anvil]

the counter to the polaris is a ballistic corsair

[fluid plume]

I think the server was just pooping out of it wasn’t hitting you

Thing rotates so easily to get all the guns trained on you

[lone bloom]

Then all the servers were pooping at that time, because did it multiple times, different days, different servers

[humble anvil]

i edited my message

[fluid plume]

Not hard to imagine servers always been dog water

[lone bloom]

I mean - yes

[fluid plume]

Like I admit I only ever fought 1 idris on a working server and that thing slaughters

[lone bloom]

Thought that too about the hammerhead on "working" servers

....

Till I was able to get behind it

[fluid plume]

I mean that literally makes no sense hammerhead doesn’t have a blind spots the turrets have really good overlap and coverage, think that was just ai crapping out

[lone bloom]

Dunno why but its like an "off button" for AI pilots because they straight up just try to run if you fly behind them

[lone bloom]

I didn't said it was a blindspot on the hammerhead, just said it became drastically easier

Because you had to only fight against 2 turrets, instead of 6

[cursive drum]

The Hammerhead has no Blindspots, that’s the entire point it it’s design.

[fluid plume]

I mean in the rear alone 4 turrets can hit you and if it angles up or down it loses 1 and gains 2
That’s like 16+ size 4 guns

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-frowning-coffee-gif-14597430

[lone bloom]

As I said, it doesn't have a blindspot, and never said that Just that it became drastically easier once you are able to stick behind it

And on an Idris or Polaris its even easier since they're way less agile

And have total blindspots unlike an HH

Even if you fly a larger ship

Also - I still wonder what whill happen to bounty ERT's if the highest ambush and patrol stuff is an enemy idris? will they buff ERT's too?

[cursive drum]

Ok but how much do they pay? Because an Idris should pay like, 20M? Considering it has 14M worth of Torpedos to kill it assuming 0% PDC effectiveness, and no armor resistance or shields.

[lone bloom]

It just pays in PTU like 180K

[cursive drum]

So less than 1 torpedo. Gr8…

[lone bloom]

Well I think they should increase it to 400-500K

Still nothing for a torpedo, but surely good money for boarding etc

[cursive drum]

That is still way too little.

[lone bloom]

Tell that CIG

[steel sparrow]

ye I feel like putting my life on the line to take out a fully crewed Idris with guards in it that requires me to massacre most of them should probably pay more than 150K......

or you can just nuke it with A2( if in atmo)

[humble anvil]

all around me are familiar faces

[crystal sleet]

This is exactly the case

[lone bloom]

Then its time for Percy MK III

[steel sparrow]

The bottom turret gonna shoot the railgun off

maybe make the railgun more tugged in

[humble anvil]

Wait

Hey

If the AI shoot ballistics

And they never run out of ammo

If Perseus PDTs release with AI blades

And we changed them to ballistic guns?

Profit?

[steel sparrow]

CIG proceed to make it bespoke

[humble anvil]

HOOOF

probably

And then kill the PDT dps by half

Lore accurate onboard refinery that uses gases from the engine to produce ballistic rounds used in the PDTS

That recharge like lasers

[cursive drum]

Lore Accurate.

[humble anvil]

The kids would say I'm "cooked"

Because that's some bullllshit

[foggy beacon]

oh god

please be Perseus or Ironclad

kinda want Apollo too though unsure of it's status

[fluid plume]

I’ll settle for paladin but I think that ship has sailed

[foggy beacon]

rn, of the massive concept ship almost ready for release, all I know are Perseus, Ironclad, Idris, and Pioneer

these are the only 100m+ ship that I know of that are decently close to release

[humble anvil]

Paladin is cool

We need the Perseus

It's literally the perfect ship for this patch

We're going to have tons of combat, and another event. We'll be heading up against a big ship or two. Aka Xenothreat

Without the Perseus, it's once again..... A sad time

[fluid matrix]

Coping for Idris and Perseus Invictus release...
The new missions are ment to be played by big ships

[grave canyon]

perseus will be iae

ironclad probably ilw

i'm like 99% sure perseus will be iae

[crystal sleet]

I still wonder if theyll just quickly work on the turrets, bridge and cargo bay to send the Perseus out, then unlock the rest of the ship later. I dont care if the crew and captain quarters and the messhall are locked

[grave canyon]

i do care, would rather have a full ship released a couple months later than to wait years for them to get back to it like any other ship they've released without full features

[wooden trench]

Crew, captains and messhall are likely copy/paste from zeus/polaris so they're not difficult

[crystal sleet]

That ive been telling myself too, though if thats the case of just reusing assets, im worried about the turrets. I know im trying to have my cake and eat it too, wanting a good looking perseus that looks like its concept while having it as soon as possible.

[lone bloom]

Please don't copy paste the captain quarters it looks shit on the polaris

[humble anvil]

Chris has to give the okay

He may just push it out anyways to get more money

[steel sparrow]

I think he meant “lock Polaris’s captain quarters” not the “unfuck the Carrack cargo elevator “

[wooden trench]

I dont see the issue with the polaris captains quarters. Prefer it to the starfarer, carrack or reclaimer

[humble anvil]

Perseus is the best ship in SC for the future and general population. It is the perfect center against hitting up and down.

Light fighter get to close and is stupid? 1 cannon shot will send that fker to it's grave.

Heavy fighters? 4 cannon shots will fuck it up

Something bound to pop off on a heavy fighter

Connie's and Corsair? They're fucked

Hammies? They're fucked

Polaris? Can pop off an engine or two

[lone bloom]

Perfectly described why it will be nerfed xD

[humble anvil]

They should bring those ships up in effective hitpoints

Not nerf the Perseus

And fkn those expedition ships unless tagged as heavy armored cruisers with no guns, should pop

So much imbalance

But that's life, not everything can do everything. That's life. There's different price points and personality in the cars we buy

A Perseus should be able to pop light fighters if they're stupid

But vocal minority I'm sure will see it nerfed into oblivion because casual whales get pissed , and then the competitive gamers

[lone bloom]

It just feels empty compared to other captain quarter rooms - also why no window

[humble anvil]

Final note: "just shoot it's engines and cannons off"

Rip Perseus

[wooden trench]

I get the emptiness, but I think that's a move from pre-cluttered to self played cosmetics are close enough the player can self clutter eventually.

I would say windows are a structal weakness but something something diamond laminate super material so windows weren't in the budget

[lone bloom]

Actually
In Lore its one of the most armored point of the entire ship

[sand hound]

not sure if the percy turret rotation speed will let it hit fighters

[wooden trench]

That's what I meant, you can't say they're weak so I'm just going to sat RSI is too cheap for windows, because they're meant to be super expensive

[humble anvil]

Yep

Unknown

[humble anvil]

Here's to hoping that they upscale top gun to s8

Why: no other ship can really punch up

No other S8 that I know of besides BMM

They need to make the turret slow as fk

And heavy

Big chonk

Guess they don't have to fill the gap but... Xddd

(there's a divide between Corsair n Polaris/Idris)

[cursive drum]

How? There is no life and nothing on the shelves. Carrack on the other hand.

[steel thistle]

idris is more likely to release than percy

stop holding on

it’s not coming

[hollow remnant]

Perseus is coming yesterday

[lone bloom]

._. an A1 can component kill an idris oneshot

lmao

[cursive drum]

…Why?

[lone bloom]

An Polaris can do so too it seems, at least if it hits the reactor

Even with shields on

You basically destroy the powerplants causing it (with engineering) to be technically softkilled temporarily if not fixxed

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/did-it-work-chris

awww bro they deleted it

no fun allowed

[humble anvil]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/perseus-at-ilw

inb4 they delete it again

[lone bloom]

Deleted by Nightrider-CIG

[humble anvil]

the last one was void kobold

if its nightrider, im cooked

gone to dust

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-endgame-avengers-gone-ashes-gif-14019029

[steel sparrow]

who's that?

[humble anvil]

idk

[steel sparrow]

uh

there is still HOPE!!!!!!

[humble anvil]

oh nyo

someone just said

"Perseus releases... another ship will release and it will be better than the perseus and perseus will get nerfed"

[steel sparrow]

😠

[humble anvil]

CHRIS PLZ NO

legit, idk any ship that is in concept or idealized on a level of the perseus

crusader is bound to have one

and it'll be dual size 8

[reef wind]

It'll be nerfed to have less firepower than a corsair due to Rustle's fanboying

[steel sparrow]

Maybe a captal Perseus?

[grave canyon]

you know what they will do to the perseus? they will release it, and years later they will nerf the guns to s6 then announce a ship with a turret that has quad size 7's for cheaper than the perseus.

i'm still pissed about the redeemer nerf.

[grave canyon]

you mean a polaris? or a javelin?

[steel sparrow]

nah like the Bengal Battleship Variant

in sq42

[cursive drum]

If Bengal is buildable, then that thing will be too.

[steel sparrow]

maybe a one that's Carrack Sized and has 3x dual S7 turrets that also has a hanger?

a budget Javelin

[cursive drum]

Me in a not budget Javelin:

[grave canyon]

no it's just gonna be a same size ship from someone else with quad s7 turrets

after they nerf the percy to dual s6

[humble anvil]

Hey if it doesn't get upscaled, atleast we'll probably have unlimited ballistic ammo PDT's until they fix it

Unless they're bespoke

😬

[humble anvil]

What if Perseus doesn't get upscaled but does get automated turrets at launch.

What if you put Strife mass drivers, or Singe cannons on them?

Maybe the ai won't miss ?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-perseus-hammerhead-ram-gif-17374513556486374363

[lone bloom]

So - what are the opinions about that the percy won't be at ILW? (pretty likely)

[crystal sleet]

I've always known itd be a slim chance, but im still holding out cause I dont know what else I'd be doing anymore

[lone bloom]

tbf still don't know which ships they should mean then by "prepare for massive ship releases"?

[foggy beacon]

Pioneer?

that thing is bigger than Idris

[ionic pumice]

Devs said pioneer wasn't coming until after initial base building feature is out (citcon 2024) so doubtful

[humble anvil]

[cursive drum]

Mayhaps.

[humble anvil]

prob not

[raw lichen]

Paladin turret on rails

[errant ice]

the paladin turret has 4 guns

[raw lichen]

But its on a rail. Isn't that what the picture shows?

[humble anvil]

idk im fucking pissed

WHERES OUR PERSEUS INTERIOR LEAKS

[errant ice]

i mean i guess, the turret doesnt match up, and the rails go way further than is shown in this picture

[raw lichen]

You are right. Checked it with pictures we have from the Paladin.
Ah well, guess we have to wait - just to say "damn, that was so easy" again

[humble anvil]

red on white line seems like apollo medivac

nope not it

[raw lichen]

For me it looks like some sort of conveyor belt.

[humble anvil]

Added actor based recoil effect

PERSEUS S7 GUN WILL FEEL GREAT

Rebalance for military components to make them better suited for combat purposes

ew Fleet Week mission. A Polaris has been stolen by the Frontier Fighters and the CDF are tasked by the UEE Navy to hunt it through the Stanton system, isolate it, and kill it. The mission will be offered rarely, can be shared, and will only have one active at a time. Once complete a temporary stand-in reward will be given.

Perseus coming in clutch to do the job the UEE Navy cant do

RSI :

[raw lichen]

In this age of uncertainty it's time to take back your strength - its time to release the Kraken.
Drake Interplanetary - we got ya back

[humble anvil]

oh yeah

theres the turret nerf

Perseus turret going snail speed

[raw lichen]

the damage was buffed

Lets do some theocrafting here

S7 Perseus does double the damage of the S6 from the Polaris, means instead of 3400 per shot per barrel we have 6800 per shot per barrel.
I was told the fire rate was also half that of the Polaris so we double this again and end up with 13.600 damage per shot per barrel.
We have two barrels per turret and therefore 27.2k damage from a single shot of our twin turrets.

2-3 shots and your Corsair is toast.
How much ammo do we get? We may end up with 30-40 shots from a Perseus to kill a Polaris, right?

[humble anvil]

what

Sankari

how in the ever living fuck did you get that number

HANG ON

check the idris turret

brrrrrrrrrrrb

[fluid plume]

man polaris has half the shields of a 890j lol

[raw lichen]

I made them up more or less by looking at the Polaris bespoked s6 cannon from the picture

[humble anvil]

awhn the idris turret is just the basic cannons hmmmmmmm

wellllll

so we can safely assume, Alpha gets higher the slower the RPM is...

ooo dear, it has an rpm of 50....

hm

Polaris S6 : 50 RPM, 3400 Alpha
Ion S7 : 55 RPM, 5150 Alpha

Inferno S7 : 900 RPM, 292 Alpha

Inferno if not Gatling : 55 RPM, 4778 Alpha

idk i got nothing

[grave canyon]

brotha

they said the guns will do similar damage to inferno

it's gonna be about 12k dps

with 4x s7

no need to pull numbers outta nowhere

[humble anvil]

THEY DID?

[grave canyon]

not inferno but ares technically

but the ion and inferno do about the same so

[humble anvil]

ah yeah

[grave canyon]

so yeah about 12k dps if that's anything to go by

but we might just get some specialised ammo type thing that boosts it over the ares

[humble anvil]

'Added actor based recoil effect'

excited for this

[grave canyon]

i'm excited for my 12k ballistic dps

[humble anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ebqhjHXyg

[errant warren]

Give us perseus

[humble anvil]

Give us Perseus

[charred basin]

Give us Perseus

[crystal sleet]

Give us Perseus

[signal vortex]

give us Perseus

[humble anvil]

@crystal sleet I'm gonna giggle if I'm right

Loool

They could do it, doesn't need to be flyable right now

[crystal sleet]

id be perplexed if they didnt reference teh Perseus at all in ILW

[humble anvil]

At ILW doesn't need to be flyable, they could lore it and say RSI noticed the UDF's dedication to helping them stop the frontier fighters from rampaging acrossed the system, and decided to fast track production of the RSI Perseus. We need more defenders in this world blah blah blah. And have flavor text on pledge store ; Concept not flyable but will be in patch 4.2

Unless it's actually done, but regardless, could play into alien week and the Perseus shows up against xenothreat

So many possibilities

[crystal sleet]

hell, even if its not ready for ILW, they can just drop it during an event between ilw and iae

[humble anvil]

I really bud, I don't want to wait for IAE

Lol

[crystal sleet]

IAE is just too far

[lone bloom]

You know they wont

[crystal sleet]

[lone bloom]

Simply because of its size

If it would be an 50 meter ship there were a chance but not for a 100+ ship xD

Unless they introduce it with an huge event connected to fight for pyro story

[crystal sleet]

this is what i mean, like something that involves a massive battle

[lone bloom]

I mean it could build up to the percy release with phase 1-3 or such

There are multiple ways to introduce it in terms of a story event but i doubt they gonna do that xD

Visually the quartz SMG looks pretty good btw

[crystal sleet]

it does, i like how they did an 180 with how it functions, a beam first before changing into conventional fast firing "bolts"

gives it some variety in the Volt weapons

[lone bloom]

but just simply a bad weapon in my view

visually its great but I don't see a usecase

more like a "fun weapon than good weapon"

But surely a good weapon to display in the percy captain quarter

[crystal sleet]

itll be a great trophy weapon

[steel sparrow]

Give us Perseus

[crystal sleet]

Give us Perseus

[steel sparrow]

I'm gonna commit genocide if the frontier fighters "stole" my perseus

[crystal sleet]

-# that just means free Perseus for us to steal rightfully claim

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/purge-purge-mandalore-mandalore-purge-star-wars-mandalorian-gif-3740060489136577632

[lone bloom]

Its not "steal" if it always was our destiny to have a percy

[crystal sleet]

feexed

[lone bloom]

Also I was right about the thing with the Idris -> Polaris switch in the ambush missions

Now people just steal the polaris instead, and have that completely AI crewed

[humble anvil]

Perseus more of a xenothreat ship

with like 5 of em

[errant ice]

All we are doing is borrowing it forever

[humble anvil]

perseus is the one ship i would borrow from ai if we didnt personally have it

[crystal sleet]

surely next XT, theyll have a polaris/idris escorted by stolen Perseus

[errant ice]

Also turret blades tomorrow

[crystal sleet]

should we consider all these things as "proceeding as planned"?

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-proceeding-as-i-have-foreseen-palpatine-sheev-palpatine-everything-going-according-to-plan-everything-going-ok-gif-2215291108627871761

[humble anvil]

if everything proceeded as planned then.. well...

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-ayanami-excited-song-happy-dance-gif-20863285

[crystal sleet]

the only thing that makes the game bad, the original store owner ran away when he got scared of XT

we will never get fine Star Dining anymore...

[humble anvil]

oh

awh

[crystal sleet]

it was a whole lore thing when SoO was happening

guy technically still owns it, but will never open it

[foggy beacon]

rip

[crystal sleet]

id go vent in the Scam Citizen channel, but its gone

[grave canyon]

wha

[grave canyon]

no it's not

#1116528156745154700

[crystal sleet]

ah, i couldnt find it lmao

[grave canyon]

yea cuz threads on discord (even if you follow them) disappear from your list and there's no way to get them back but send a message

which is stupid as fuck

[crystal sleet]

pretty sure i lost the "follow thread" thing too during april fools when they rearranged the channels

[crystal sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa9NdnUh3FE

Me when the Nyx Jumpgate opens up

[fluid plume]

100% next corvette will be polaris but can actually do cap warfare, Perseus 2.0 would be peak

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sby-space-battleship-yamato-yamato-domelaze-gif-7604539323430144639

[fluid plume]

would just be logical
RSI builds long range corvette that barely plays support
brings back perseus as stop gap as they design perseus 2.0 which is a corvette that can do cap warfare, then cig makes bank and polaris melting sounds intensifies

[crystal sleet]

itll be my next purchase once i get a forklift gig

[humble anvil]

Poolaris is quite literally impractical

there comes a point where it becomes inefficient for a solo player

and i think, this is my opinion. Perseus is the last, aka as far as a solo player would want to go

before it becomes impractical, inefficent, and providing a degraded experience

[fluid matrix]

Perseus ist impractical as a solo lol.. it becomes a valid choice only if you use its turrets to deal damage. Its not a fighter or solo capable sub like corsair...

[humble anvil]

It has enough Blade slots to automate everything, except engineering

unless they cut manned turret blading

[fluid matrix]

On paper now maby. But I dont think you will ever be able to solo shoot the cannons... It doesnt fit the multicrew idea

[humble anvil]

all that info is 4 years old anyways right so who knows xdddd but yee its like the max you'd want to go.

Corsair is waaaaay better solo

i only think perseus is at the limit is because engineering is legit 1 room behind the pilot seat

dont know how engineering will play out, how long you can hold before shit starts catching fire

[fluid matrix]

But you cant even shoot any cannons with it solo. I see no point flying it solo other than pocking up your mates.

I still dont believe in blades for big ships

[humble anvil]

Blade it

[wooden trench]

Just pre vent everywhere but the bridge

[humble anvil]

the blades dont need air

👍

[humble anvil]

yall see the S6 Cannon recoil?

idk if im excited anymore, that seems cool but

it looks annoying

[grave canyon]

blud

it's not a question of belief

they literally said it's going to be a thing

[lone bloom]

Especially for big ships, small ones don't need it xD

[grave canyon]

also yeah what the hell you mean for big ships

it's literally a big ship thing

what are you gonna do with a blade in an aurora fam

[lone bloom]

Extend the wings - finally giving it a good reason to exist

[grave canyon]

bro wants a blade for power management or something

[fluid matrix]

I dont believe any cig statement or q&a

[grave canyon]

well sucks to be you

[lone bloom]

Perseus is just fake then

[grave canyon]

for the rest of us that are normal people the best information about this game is coming from the game's developer so unless they say otherwise perseus is getting ai blades

[fluid matrix]

go on

galaxy

[grave canyon]

and even if they do say otherwise it will probably get it because people will cry about it

[fluid matrix]

npc crew

soon tm

[grave canyon]

?

is this an npc

[lone bloom]

They literally need AI blades or / and NPC crew - how else are ships like Javelin or Bengals supposed to work?

[grave canyon]

is bean's bots malfunctioning

[fluid matrix]

I just dont see solo Perseus with bladed 4x S8 flying arround being in their multiplayer ballancing

[lone bloom]

s8?

[grave canyon]

blud it's 4x s7

[lone bloom]

Did I miss something

[grave canyon]

and yes they will be flying around probably

[fluid matrix]

yeah wow that makes the difference

[grave canyon]

because guess what, they said it's gonna be a thing

[lone bloom]

it does

[grave canyon]

it's literally 2-4x difference

[lone bloom]

S8 is the damage of 2 S7

[grave canyon]

jesus take the wheel

[lone bloom]

Also - they already showed AI blades inside of manned turrets

[grave canyon]

nuh uh it's unbalanced bro trust me bro cig is fake bro

[fluid matrix]

dude S8 S7 doesnt even mean anything rn. Everything is subject to change with engineering malstrom everything so it really doesnt matter. Dude they reballance everything all the time like double hull hp valkyrie

[lone bloom]

I mean even if not with ai blades, at some point with NPC crew either way xD

[grave canyon]

i love it when people argue against a cig post and their source is you can't believe cig

[fluid matrix]

I argue against 4 years

[grave canyon]

like duh but where else do we get information about this game then

[grave canyon]

ok bud

you do realize balancing is more than just introducing/not introducing features right?

they can easily make the blades balanced

[lone bloom]

Mate, your argument is like saying "I don't trust studies"

[fluid matrix]

Really?

[grave canyon]

just because we get blades doesn't mean a single guy will get 100% perfect control of 2 manned turrets while flying a goodamn ship

it'll probably be either that they're locked in a forward arc or there'll be some sort of downside, maybe power draw or cooler requirement or just the blades outright using the turrets less efficiently

[lone bloom]

I mean they already said that blades will cost energy

Aka having to reduce your shields or such for the firepower

[grave canyon]

so the moment you start losing your power plant you have no guns

[fluid matrix]

but seing them try to reballance coirsair ant other shidt you get a feeling of what their intentions are. Dude all the mining equipment that is seperated like from pilot seat. The fking reclaimer claw. They dont want you to fly every ship alone

[grave canyon]

and?

[lone bloom]

You still cannot fly combat ships alone, even with blades, forgot engineering ?

[fluid matrix]

and thats why I dont think you guys will get a solo perseus

[lone bloom]

In an PvP fight every player crewed ship will destroy an AI blade ship

[grave canyon]

how does them separating the reclaimer claw from the pilot seat have anything to do with them confirming blades in a qa

[grave canyon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[fluid matrix]

they nerf corsair but give us a solo Perseus in the future?

[grave canyon]

unless blades are exceptionally good at shooting with very little downsides i will man my perseus 9 out of 10 times i use it anyway

[lone bloom]

I mean, right now, you have a solo polaris...

[grave canyon]

and any other player with a few brain cells will probably do the same

and that's going to be 10 out of 10 times for pvp

[lone bloom]

They are not, they said on the highest Tier (crafting and so you know) aka probably Tier 5 they are only as good as the average player - and the average player is pretty bad

[fluid matrix]

yeah thats the problem. Thats why "I think" they dont want it. In my opinion solo ships are way more likely to troll around like all those solo polaris out there.

[grave canyon]

i mean even if they're like exceptionally good at shooting they will still have huge drawbacks

aka literally not having extra crew

[lone bloom]

Well but a solo polaris is only good for PvE missions ( and not even for ERT missions with other big ships as enemies) in PvP a solo polaris is found meat

[grave canyon]

the perseus guns will probably be reloadable somehow from the inside, so it would really really suck to have a blade in there and have it run out of ammo

whereas if you had a player they could just go grab a box of ammo and continue

[lone bloom]

thats why you need the engineer

Perseus is pretty much either way even with AI blades a minimum crew ship of 2

[grave canyon]

then the engineer won't be doing engineer things in a heavy firefight, so you would want at least 3 people probably, at that point just get a damn 4th and have the turrets manned so you don't have to divert power and stuff to blades

[lone bloom]

Well yea, dunno what the current crew was was thinking about it being usually 2 engineers either way (if fully crewed)

2 gunners, 2 remote gunners 1 pilot 2 engineers

[grave canyon]

i don't get why people hate blades so hard they're probably one of the easiest things to balance that cig wants to introduce

[lone bloom]

yeah would fit 6 max crew

[grave canyon]

yeah it's 1-6

[lone bloom]

yeah so its either way usually fitted out for 2 eng

[grave canyon]

i think bone crew will be 4, 2 gunners, pilot and one engineer, then 2 people on remote that can act as engineer

[lone bloom]

In PvP, yes

[grave canyon]

in pve you will probably run with just 3, unless doing high level stuff at which point you'll want an engineer

[lone bloom]

for PvE I still think 2 are fine for bigger combat missions 1 is fine for easy missions like maybe maximal moderate risk targets like cutlass because of the dual S4 automated turrets

1 gunner that also does engineering, pilot that also does engineering on his floor

depends ofc on how good the shields will be xD

[grave canyon]

the only thing blades will be good at probably is just like killing very low-risk things, maybe going up against one npc hammerhead or something like that, then you may get away with having blades. anything bigger or any players you will want gunners regardless

[lone bloom]

Never expected more of it xD

[grave canyon]

but no man if we have blades people will run around with 4x s8 guns

cmon now

[lone bloom]

[grave canyon]

they put the reclaimer claw on a different seat so surely they won't do that right

[lone bloom]

Lets just ignore that everyone solos the reclaimer still

[grave canyon]

blasphemy

[lone bloom]

Also either way, the majority of players - like at least 80% are mainly only playing solo

Ignoring those would be a very fatal mistake

[grave canyon]

nah but they don't want that

see: reclaimer claw

[lone bloom]

Or mole lasers

Or torpedo turret of the Polaris (tbf that one is still stupid xd)

[grave canyon]

also notice how you can't both fly the ship and move cargo? so you're not supposed to be haulin shit solo as well

[humble anvil]

man this game is borked rn

buggy buggy buggy

[pine root]

POV: Perseus PDCs

[humble anvil]

Well

Technically.... No

Uhm

[steel sparrow]

I mean

Yes?

[steel sparrow]

20 s5 torps are enough for me to "solo" my Perseus ass out of vhrt/erts even if we dont get the blades at launch

[steel sparrow]

hey Polaris recoil update:https://streamable.com/jfk5qx

maybe our s7 will look something like this

[signal vortex]

hell ya

[cursive drum]

Torpedo operator seat added.

[humble anvil]

Idk what you want for Perseus, but if they make those guns slow as fudge to fire, the effect would be nice

Zac said they're working on it, so who knows what we'll get for launch

Really hoping Perseus turret isn't a copy paste from Polaris

[steel sparrow]

maybe make the boom a bit louder with some crackling sound

[humble anvil]

Yerrp

That's what I'm hoping for

But not so metal

[obtuse solstice]

honestly with the cap ship changes the perseus is looking really really not great

[fluid matrix]

"Retuned the S6 Polaris bespoke turret guns for greater damage" - I kinda like that

getting slower but hitting harder

[agile tinsel]

how does that change anything with the perseus?

it's a sub-cap

and smaller than a hammerhead

it's not a cap until it gets capital components and health lol

[agile tinsel]

yeah, even if the gun shoots slower now, the DPS went from 3.4k sustained to 4.8k sustained

which is massive

really shows how underperforming the ares s7 is lol

which gives me hope for the perseus s7

[obtuse solstice]

obviously not directly but the implications of capital handling being so low is it gives space to to place the perseus around where the polaris currently is on top of the fact that the perseus will likely have very poor convergence. it'll be fine for pve just like anything else but its being set up to perform pretty poorly against anything with single functioning brain cell. the components its likely to get are equally as bad, s3 shields are terrible currently

[agile tinsel]

the 4.1.1 PTU is pretty centered around components, the perseus comes with military compnents, which are vastly superior in regen and health.

For the manueverability, it was a given that the perseus would be slow and cumbersome, it's one of the oldest designs in the game by lore, and originally the ship lacked shields (as those were only found on capital ships at the time). BUT, it does have 2 automated turrets which are s3/s4 (depends on datamine being right), alongside possible PDC's

[obtuse solstice]

yea so military shields are not superior in health, regen sure but no not on health

[agile tinsel]

I also think the top and bottom turrets don't have the worst coverage if used at the same time, bottom one has good firing angles on anything below, vice versa with top

[obtuse solstice]

there also was no datamine saying it would get upgunned on the automated turrets, which we dont know what that means

[agile tinsel]

true, industrial is going to have the best I think

but it's in 2nd

[obtuse solstice]

they're like moderately better

but like

[agile tinsel]

and with s3 shields, the difference is usually a few thousand

[obtuse solstice]

you have to split that hp pool by 4 faces

2-3k a shield face doesnt make a difference in practice

[agile tinsel]

?

it has what

2 shield generators?

let's assume parapet in the current PU (don't know parapet values in PTU), that's 120k shields split between 4 faces

[obtuse solstice]

correct

30k shielding isnt as much as you think it is

[agile tinsel]

military components in PU have slightly less, but that's still pretty good

[agile tinsel]

for a ship that doesn't rely on shields to be tanky, it is

it's like flying around with an m2 that actually has armor

[obtuse solstice]

it will have to rely on shields to be tanky, armor isnt in and im not going to pretend like it'll be a game changer lol

[agile tinsel]

yeah, armor isn't in the game, but CIG has always shown it in game via hull HP

[obtuse solstice]

yea i dont know about that one lol

[agile tinsel]

they have lol

every ship marketed to have armor does indeed have vastly superior hull HP compared to other variants/counterparts

there are 2 things that upsell ships

armor and stealth

you pay a massive amount for any ship with those two things

[obtuse solstice]

im like 95% certain you dont know what you're talking about

[agile tinsel]

you say that, but have put nothing towards the discussion

you could try being more productive?

[obtuse solstice]

ok sure, so the M2 is the most heavily armored herc yea?

[humble anvil]

Holy shit what did I miss

[agile tinsel]

the M2 is an upgraded C2 with armor, that's literally what it is

[obtuse solstice]

can you tell me what the ballistic resist on the A2 vs M2 by chance is?

[opaque lodge]

that's what its supposed to be tbf

[agile tinsel]

brother, the A2 is an upgraded M2 hull

that's literally what it is

[obtuse solstice]

so whats the ballistic resist

[opaque lodge]

the actual in-game statistics/implementation differs alot from the concept of what the ship should be

[agile tinsel]

ballistic resistence is an arbitrary number CIG uses to balance ballistic weapons, not armor

[obtuse solstice]

oh okay

so its arbitrary

gotcha

[agile tinsel]

it has nothing to do with how well a ships armor is, even ships with like no armor still have ballistic resistance

the C2 is what, 50% as well?

[obtuse solstice]

do you know what armor does?

[agile tinsel]

it's an unarmored transport

[humble anvil]

Idk what y'all argued about but it most certainly ain't coping the perseus's release

[agile tinsel]

brother, it's not in the game, I stated from the very start that CIG represents it as hull HP currently

go reread if you need to

lmao

since when did I ever claim armor as a mechanic is in the game?

[obtuse solstice]

im just trying to make sure we're on the same page and you're being obtuse and condscending

[opaque lodge]

I cope the whole game 😭

[agile tinsel]

I'm not being either

[obtuse solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1344847791469363220/Perseus_Mentioned3.gif

[humble anvil]

Let's keep it a buck. On all seriousness, the Perseus is going to exist. It's not going to change any meta. UNLESS, it comes out with the two turrets being automated. It's not a big deal but nice to have

[agile tinsel]

you're the one unwilling to have a conversation, you even took us down this rabbit hole to claim I don't know what I'm talking about, which is honestly insulting

so how is any of this my fault?

[humble anvil]

Other than that. It's just going to exist

When armor is actually implemented, it'll do good

[obtuse solstice]

the reality is the perseus is going to be a fucking shitheap just like every other multicrew platform is and all i said to start was the polaris nerfs have given me even less hope

i never said anything was your fault, i just insisted you were ignorant

[agile tinsel]

it will only be like that if people continue to misrepresent the ship as some do-all kill-all ship

[obtuse solstice]

where did i misrepresent it

[agile tinsel]

I'm not talking about you

I'm talking about the community in general

[obtuse solstice]

ya i mean thats the case with every new thing with big guns though

[agile tinsel]

they continue to try and write it off as being more than what it is

[obtuse solstice]

even though big gun =/= good

[agile tinsel]

if the perseus HAD capital class components and HP, then yeah, it would be a good cap probably

but s3 components mean nothing when compared to capital ones

so it will forever be in the shadows of even relatively weaker capital ships

even the polaris isn't very strong when you compare it to other military capitals

[obtuse solstice]

yea i mean im just saying like it'll probably sit around old redeemer stats

which were terrible

the same for the paladin tbh

[agile tinsel]

it's gonna be a guessing game, everyone knows how volatile gunships are, especially ballistic based ones

[humble anvil]

Lol

[agile tinsel]

CIG has a bad habit of freaking out whenever a ballistics focused ship is good at destroying stuff

[humble anvil]

As long as it has at least 420,000 effective hit points.... I'll be happy

Anything less I'm going to question CIG's balancing department

I don't I don't know

[obtuse solstice]

CIGs balancing department uses a pendulum and dartboard for balancing

[humble anvil]

It's ballistic so it's automatically pretty s*** right now

[agile tinsel]

I do think that the perseus has more of a chance of not being a pile of shit simply because it accounts for so much of their revenue and current hype lol

[humble anvil]

Yeah I think it's going to get the new ship tax and upscaleed a bit

[agile tinsel]

it's a relatively newer concept and is also one of their best sellers

[humble anvil]

Want to be surprised if there was a size 8 upgrade kit for the Top gun

[agile tinsel]

I was more hoping that we would get a way to switch out the guns to another s7, similar to how the retaliator has modules

but knowing them, it'll be a different concept

perseus with all energy, $800 !!!

[obtuse solstice]

theres supposed to be different ammunition types available, but like armor its functionality nowhere to be seen

[agile tinsel]

ammunition types in 2028, trust

[humble anvil]

When armor is implemented it'll be better

[obtuse solstice]

dont worry master modes will fix it

[humble anvil]

Less small ships fucking with it

[agile tinsel]

CIG has also shot themselves in the foot with armor, so I think they are taking it slow on purpose, it'll be very hard to balance around considering a ton of ships only use s3/4 guns max

[humble anvil]

Hey. Perseus is the perfect PvE ship 🙂

We take that

[agile tinsel]

like, what is the point of the 100000 light/medium/heavy fighters if only 10% of them can scratch anything remotely large, they would pose zero risk to some of the ships, like the perseus, which SHOULD be vulnerable to fighter swarms

[lone tundra]

I don't expect too much of a release increase - $750 to $775

For reference: $675 current MSRP
10% - $742.50
15% - $776.25

• these get rounded and shifted into price brackets for stratification. Expect 750, or 775 in this case.

[humble anvil]

Yes

I think so too

750 probably

To cuck CCU

[agile tinsel]

yerp

polaris gonna have an even better CCU route for people holding out on the increase lol

[humble anvil]

If it's more, then they added s8 cannon n other shit

[agile tinsel]

anyone who did a CCU chain to the perseus will be able to get a pretty cheap polaris

if they spent a ton of time

[humble anvil]

Hell nah Poolaris

Gross

[lone tundra]

Those would all be Hammerhead -> Polaris or Perseus -> Polaris anyway though

[agile tinsel]

I'm not melting my polaris even if they nerf it, it's like the only ship in my fleet that can do more than 2-3 things without frying itself

[humble anvil]

Mhm! Cargo, PvE, and security

[agile tinsel]

what if I said that I forgot the hammerhead existed for a while?

I haven't seen a player hammerhead in so long now

[lone tundra]

It's a common thing for CCUing, Hammerhead WB gets you to prime pricing points

[agile tinsel]

polaris med bay is one of the few reasons for me keeping it, it's just so handy not needing a nursa

ofc with the others as well

[humble anvil]

I got to make an edit

With Perseus having a medbay

And proceed to spread false information

Where is the RSI Kratos ?

[pine root]

@humble anvil requested this:

[steel sparrow]

Furry spotted

[humble anvil]

😍😍😍

Love it

[pine root]

Glad you like it :3 It's not my best work, but meh

[lone bloom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430203025659789343/1057820049555079249/Sweater_thief-1-2.gif

[steel sparrow]

Okay....

To what extend is "furry" is considered furry?

[lone bloom]

[steel sparrow]

Is Picco a furry?

[lone bloom]

Technically- yes

[steel sparrow]

w

[lone bloom]

interesting, it only needs 17 hits by a single S6 polaris gun with the new damage buff

to softdeath a hammerhead

and since it has two guns because... turret ouch

nvm its 70 the dude just shit at talking

but only 45 to kill a thruster of a polaris

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-redwaze-gif-26386125

S7 will go hard

[grave canyon]

fuck fighter swarms the polaris will get perseus swarmed

[lone bloom]

Not even swarmed, aslong it gets better agility one is more than enough xD

Depending on how much ammo the turrets have

[steel sparrow]

Is there FLAK rounds?

[crystal sleet]

planned, yes

[floral rapids]

Do we know how flak rounds work at all according to CIG? I presume it’s proximity detonated

[crystal sleet]

other than what is described in the roadmap tracker card of flak ammo, no

[humble anvil]

🥺

[humble anvil]

Perse?

Perseus?

🥺

[lone bloom]

No

[cursive drum]

Feathery so… no?

[cursive drum]

Yes. Like C-877 which currently has a 14M detonation range but a 10M Blast Radius…

[humble anvil]

Behind the ships is a Perseus

[lone bloom]

You know they want to talk about a ship they release at ILW?