Perseus Pals

[reef wind]

Yeah and that was showing maelstrom potential

But right now we don't have that nor armor

[lone bloom]

Well yes, but an Polaris wouldn't survive an 1v1 encounter with an idris I assume

unless the idris is already heavily damaged and its just a "cleanup"

[reef wind]

I imagine it caught it with its shields down

[lone bloom]

also hope that we will be one day able to "park" our ships also on orison platforms and refill, reammo and repair them like in that video

[reef wind]

Otherwise torps aren't really as effective

Well capitals in the scale of kraken and larger need drydocks

[lone bloom]

depends on if they will keep the dumbfire

[reef wind]

Kraken being the largest current ship capable of landing but still needing a drydock

[lone bloom]

isn't the idris larger?

[reef wind]

Nope

Kraken is 240 meters

If I remember right

[lone bloom]

kraken is 270 .-.

idris is 242

didn't know the kraken is bigger

tbf idris is "fatter"

[reef wind]

Kraken chonky

[lone bloom]

Still undecided for what Capital i am going for late game farming wise

[reef wind]

Kraken was my choice for versatile industrial needs

[lone bloom]

Kraken is basically a better perseus with its dual S8 infront, and having the ability to carry alot more, but i don't like drake

[reef wind]

Drake isn't bad tbh. It's more industrial vs military

[lone bloom]

its not about if its bad or not

I just don't like drake visually

[reef wind]

Old drake is rough yeah

[lone bloom]

Surely the kraken is great especially for bounties I assume since you can carry salvager ships with you, a huge dual S8, and a gigantic cargo bay

But I am coping for an anvil kraken competitor with similar stats, just... simply anvil instead of drake xD

[reef wind]

I'd take even an argo carrier tbh

[lone bloom]

but argo doesn't make those kind of ships?

[reef wind]

Deploy 80 argo cargos

[lone bloom]

Don't they just... exclusively make industrial purpose ships?

aka mining and cargo

[reef wind]

Yup

It's more a silly idea than anything

[lone bloom]

I am really just hoping for an better looking, bigger liberator

with dual S8 like the kraken

https://tenor.com/view/ace-combat-7-aircraft-carrier-scene-1-intro-ace-combat-gif-14055409882676780657

[reef wind]

Literal aircraft carrier

I can dig it

[lone bloom]

Thats what I am hoping for, would also fit to anvils design language

I mean the liberator is already an mini aircraft carrier

just enclosed

bridge on one side of the ship, everything else is carrier

[reef wind]

I like the open deck design

[lone bloom]

Literally just the kraken as Aircraft carrier design = anvil

And I would be happy

[reef wind]

I don't like enclosed carriers simply due to bad pilots lol

[lone bloom]

wdym

like, you cannot land on them because the pilot simply doesn't wanna hold still? xd

[reef wind]

More like the fighter slamming the inside or the walls cause they forgot to couple or lower speeds

[lone bloom]

tbf, I also don't think the liberator enclosed area is meant for ships even if probably something like a pisces fits in there

seen only pictures with it having ships ontop

But you do know the kraken also has 2 enclosed hangars?

[reef wind]

Those are repair bays so those don't need to be active all times

[lone bloom]

"repair bays"

[reef wind]

They are classified as such

[lone bloom]

like the one in the polaris "what about the repair pad? When will that will be added?" CIg answer: "Well you can still repair it manually "

Well Perseus is great for what I wanna do as main loop, but RN stats wise the kraken would be technically better and i hate it because its drake

and with a idris, merchantman or even javelin it wouldn't work

(aka bounty hunting with one in the main turret - and 1-2 salvage ships stored to scrap the destroyed ships, and huge cargo bay for extra cargo capacity even if you use smaller salvagers)

not to mention that you can park an perseus on the kraken

[reef wind]

Bounty hunting in a capital would be slow as piss

Unless you used the capital as a hub for deployment

[lone bloom]

people do already with the polaris way more efficient than with anything else

[reef wind]

Sure right now, but long term, it goes into the red once you need actual crew and such after engineering and other added factors down the line

what we have right now is only a portion

It's gonna get pricey to run a capital

[lone bloom]

I see engineering not that bad, at least not on bigger ships with alot of shield capacity

Aslong the enemies in bounties are still just only stuff like starfarers 890 and hammerheads i doubt they even down the shields of an kraken

unless they switch them all to ballistic loadouts THAT would be pain

[reef wind]

It probably won't be an instant thing but over time you'll need to maintain it with parts, ammo, fuel, ship repair parts, raw mats, and other items needed

[lone bloom]

well sure, depends on how much you earn by scrapping and munching the left over ships I assume if it makes more or less money because of maintenance

[reef wind]

They did say eventually all ships to a point will end up being in the list of ships being used as enemies

[lone bloom]

I hope not, already stupid enough to see a Argo Raft as bounty enemy

or starfarers

What will come next? argo cargo?

[reef wind]

I mean they need fuel too

[lone bloom]

Fair, but 2 starfarers for one single hammerhead? xD

[reef wind]

I don't make the rules lol

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19496024

[reef wind]

I only know some of the supposed eventuals they wanna do

Been here too damn long

[lone bloom]

I mean worst case I need 3 people but then I don't know anymore if its worth money making wise

2 in a perseus as hunter and cargo ship, 1 in an salvager cleaning up

yes - cargo ship - it can hold assumably way more than 50 scu

unless they fuck up offgriding

I mean

(yes those are roughly 400 Scu just for the first floor)

[reef wind]

Well the stuff off grid is intended to go flying with advanced physics

So if it's not magnetized, it'll just end up looking like a reclaimer salvage bay after an 890 haul out

[steel sparrow]

4.1.1(ILW patch ) coming into evo this week?

[lone bloom]

aslong it doesn't damage anything i don't care xD

[reef wind]

Inside of your ships is going to look like your toilet after taco bell if you don't have things on the grid

[lone bloom]

Well - its just the cargo bay, it will be fine

[reef wind]

It'll buff out

Cargo bay ends up looking like the inside of a drake ship

[lone bloom]

[crystal sleet]

i hope they elongate the Perseus with the upsize. Some angles make her look stubby

[lone bloom]

You just want your capital perseus

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-space-uchuu-senkan-yamato-anime-scifi-gif-12955790750337917542

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/battleship-warship-uss-missouri-battleship-fire-cannon-fire-gif-14048301106970095650

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-uchuu-senkan-yamato-yamato-time-guh-wake-up-gif-26740470

[lone bloom]

imagine the perseus being "fatter" and longer, with the cargo bay being big enough to be also an hangar for a single fighter like the F7

basically just a polaris hangar just with a elevator / optional door - as cargo bay or hangar

[crystal sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa9NdnUh3FE

my favourite episode

[lone bloom]

me who never seen any Kind of those animes

[crystal sleet]

this episode is where the Yamato just solos an entire solar systems worth of ships

[lone bloom]

Must been pretty shit ships then

Or alot of plot armor

[crystal sleet]

well you cant blame them ,they were too close to effectively get guns on target

also yes a lot of plot armour, because either their shots miss completely and hit their own ships, or the shots land and the shields eats it

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-10807669030885108521

[crystal sleet]

its explained that the shields the yamato uses isnt used commonly by the enemy, who just uses a special coating which has the chances for defects and failure to bounce energy fire away rather than completely absorb it

Also the Yamato uses compressed tachyon/antimatter as ammunition, imagine if Idris used compressed quantanium slugs for its massdriver

[lone bloom]

Can it be that you are disgustingly educated in that topic for that anime

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him-gif-12313683

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-18978923

[steel thistle]

swear it just flies past them all

[humble anvil]

I thought I had it all together

But I was lead astray

The day u walked away

..... Change my state of mind, love so hard to find-

[humble anvil]

Chunky Perseus

Looking like a carrack

[crystal sleet]

quite literally, the enemy were stun locked because the Yamato was just beelining straight for the core of the gas giant

[crystal sleet]

the Anvil Corvus

[steel thistle]

nah they reacted just really late and it doesn’t matter what they do they don’t have wave motion guns

they could shoot all day

[lone bloom]

Perseus with 2 pods, one for cargo one as Hangar

[crystal sleet]

plus a double barrelled antimatter beam weapon on it sbow

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-death-star-laser-gif-9916316

[crystal sleet]

basically the power of teh deathstar 2 contained within the mass of the Yamato, but magnitudes more devastating and destructive

[lone bloom]

Perfect to destroy polarises

[crystal sleet]

the Yamato is a perfectly soloable ship since most systems can be automated

[steel thistle]

why it got allat people then

and they made the ginga which was actually automated after

and the yamato crew was all shocked and shi that they could do that

[tepid wasp]

Is there a movie or series you recommend starting with for Yamato?

I see this posted on repeat and I do not understand the Perseus connection.

[steel thistle]

starblazers 2199 then 2202

then 2205 i think it is the movie between 2202 and 2207

the 3rd series isn’t finished

which is 3199 rebel or whatever

starts in 2207 and then gets time travely

no connection it’s just another cool spaceship with big guns

they don’t look that similar but there’s nothing else as good as star blazers 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[tepid wasp]

Just like every weekly sneak peak

[steel thistle]

yea

[reef wind]

Rename this chat to Yamato fan club

[foggy beacon]

lmao

SBY is honestly amazing tho

i watched the resurrection when I was like 10 and have been loving the series

[cursive drum]

https://tenor.com/view/yamato-kantai-collecton-gif-8295436215619651864

Yamato #1 Battleship.

[humble anvil]

Tired of y'all anime talk.

[crystal sleet]

snǝsɹǝԀ

[steel sparrow]

how

[crystal sleet]

¡snǝsɹǝԀ

[reef wind]

[steel sparrow]

New leak on 4.1.1 (ILW) just came out

Looking grim for us😔

Only Tac and Paladin is flyable ._.

[steel sparrow]

No news on my beloved Percy

[crystal sleet]

god that is a sexy powerplant

all those smoke stacks just merging

[humble anvil]

Existing platform ships, it's... Shit but understandable that CIG is trying to print money rn to float their finances

[humble anvil]

Perseus could always be added in a later patch

This isn't the ILW patch

[steel thistle]

nah it’s probably finishing graybox

starting ld0 probably won’t make it

starlancer tac headlining ilw 💀💀💀💀

that’s crazy

[lean merlin]

Maybe they will have the ship at ILW but not be able to go inside? Like they did with the Polaris...

[steel thistle]

doubt it atp

[lean merlin]

I will try (and probably fail) to get my hopes up...

[steel thistle]

it would have definitely come if it was halfway through grey box in that announcement they made but

in november or december idk

now i think it was just starting greybox

[steel thistle]

nah don’t do that

expect it to come in 4.2 or 4.3 then get excited when it’s a surprise

[fluid plume]

Leaks where?

[steel sparrow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JdyDrdoh6fo&t=925s&pp=ygUVSXRzam9qb3R2IHN0YXJjaXRpemVu

According to this dude

@fluid plume

[crystal sleet]

considering they had the Perseus shown during an IAE whitleys guide episode, i guess they want to keep it that way

[lone bloom]

But then it would've been datamined as display model no? or they let us suffer till then

[crystal sleet]

models can always be taken out as it can be put in, like for testing stability for example. Plus, that datamine might be abou tan early 4.1.1 build, rather than the final build

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/perseus-star-citizen-star-citizen-perseus-perseus-gunship-star-citizen-perseus-gunship-gif-11335973550360807935

[lone bloom]

honestly would also prefer seeing the interior over the exterior xD

[crystal sleet]

all i want to confirm is the TURRET

[lone bloom]

Its the only thing that could end up shit

[crystal sleet]

LIKE PLEASE

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-bengal-sq42-sc-gif-26997930

I assume its visually 1:1 that one lol

because the glass looks the same shape as from the javelin

[crystal sleet]

i swear if its just a bigger polaris s6 turret, im gonna speedrun teh stages of grief repeatedly through the whole year

[lone bloom]

I hope not, seriously hope its just the Javelin Turret

[crystal sleet]

like no way are they gonna make such a sexy hull, then just half ass the turret, the MAIN FEATURE OF THE SHIP

[lone bloom]

You mean

[lone bloom]

the only feature on it xD

besides the bridge

[crystal sleet]

the polaris turret looks so dumb, the way the guns come out of the gunhouse through a fucking balljoint

[lone bloom]

The ballpoint is probably because of the gimbeled

[crystal sleet]

just dont give the Perseus turrets barrel gimbals,just keep it rigid and straight

[lone bloom]

Gimbel on such a gun is either way straight up stupid

[crystal sleet]

i hate it, if they covered it up with some armour panels itd be fine

[crystal sleet]

begging for maelstrom and engineering to break after 50 rounds

[lone bloom]

maybe thats why the percy turret won't get gimbel

because

the S7 is against capital ships

S6 is biggest size for still fighter defence

[crystal sleet]

no need for that precise of targetting

https://tenor.com/view/battleship-warship-uss-missouri-battleship-fire-cannon-fire-gif-14048301106970095650

just pure accuracy through volume and hoping for good groupings

[lone bloom]

Im also wondering... rn... 2x S4 would be 1x S5 right? and 2x S5 = 1x S6? damage wise

would that mean the paladin outdamages the perseus aslong only one turret is manned?

[steel sparrow]

Is the ship in the back ground Bengal or Retribution

[crystal sleet]

thats if the gunner and pilot can cooperate te keep on target

[lone bloom]

nvm paladin would be 1x S7 1x S6 damage wise

[crystal sleet]

bengal, Bishops flagship

[lone bloom]

Pilot 4x S4 -> 2xS5 -> 1xS6 Turret 4x S5 -> 2xS6 -> 1xS7

[crystal sleet]

Perseus undefeted with pure gun damage in teh subcapital range

[lone bloom]

but it outdamages a 2 player polaris tho

[crystal sleet]

budget counter

[lone bloom]

but paladin comes very close tho

at least if you compare 2 player perseus vs 2 player paladin

and ignore missile/torps ofc

kinda a mini perseus

[crystal sleet]

theres also the characteristics of the Perseus shells, if theyre just normal shells or if theyre APHE

so TTK might be in the Perseus's favour depending on how ballistics are dealth with

[lone bloom]

honestly would go for a paladin as starter (from my starlancer) but i badly also need at least enough cargo space to fit the building rover

[crystal sleet]

Also the Paladin would probably be using laser cannons most times for ammo

[lone bloom]

well fair, i mean its like 1/4 of the perseus size xd

[crystal sleet]

and plus its just a single quad s5 turet for the paladin, basically a connie as a turret

[lone bloom]

well + 4x S4 for pilot

because its slaved to pilot if unused (i wonder when they will nerf that)

[crystal sleet]

theyll nerf it down to s3 because "it makes more sense to make them anti fighter" i bet

[lone bloom]

S5 is also anti fighter

so why shouldn't be S4 anti fighter xD

heck even S6 is considered anti fighter still by CIG

[crystal sleet]

because CIG in a theoretical scenario said so

[lone bloom]

i mean it was planned that the pilot doesn't have weapons at all

till peoples outcry became so loud that they said slaving the side manual turrets to pilot if unused

[crystal sleet]

they shouldve kept that way

they folded too easily

[lone bloom]

I bet they just did that to sell more, just to reverse it at some point xD

[crystal sleet]

god itd be funny to see them reverse it. Theyll probably try to flipit back on us if they reverse the perseus quad s4's, but the Perseus doesnt rely on the repeaters for damage lmao

[lone bloom]

idc if it gets quad S4s

aslong its upgunned to S4 im also happy

xD

[crystal sleet]

s4 is just a bonsu, we want the ship

[lone bloom]

4 automated S4s + 4x PDC's + 20 torpedos even if you're solo isn't bad

its better than my starlancer aslong the automated ones can hit

[crystal sleet]

theyll nerf automated PDTs to introduce chance of hitting targets, so that theyre not literal beams all the time

[wooden trench]

@crystal sleet just like the corsair and the vanguard, any bump and they're broken

[crystal sleet]

The vanguards need their damage meshes updated, like no way the entire third of a ship blows up like that

[lone bloom]

Really wonder if it would be worth it to upgrade from a starlancer to an paladin since its only 10 bucks upgrade

if warbond used

and being worth 300 (260 warbond)

But starlancer is way more flexible because of its cargo capacity

[steel sparrow]

Here's the "original"(as far as I'm concerned) leak. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1juxaf2/411_evocati_datamining_other_notes_asteroid_bases/

[lone bloom]

what ship could i upgrade to from 300 if paladin should turn out shit?

also why is the redeemer more expansive than the paladin

[steel sparrow]

maybe the manoeuvrability on the paladin is so crap that the manoeuvrability on the Redeemer is actually worth the trade off

[lone bloom]

80€trade?

xD

nvm its 30

could try to ccu up to an galaxy if the paladin is shit but galaxy has no pilot controlled weapons and thats also shit

[tepid wasp]

Galaxy you say?

[lone bloom]

Doesn't matter anyways, thought you can get the 260 warbond paladin still at ILW, but since it will increase in price

[tepid wasp]

Completely right doesnt matter now

Would you know if the pledge store would offer Perseus paints during Fleet Week?

[lone bloom]

Well in case you meant the one because i trashtalked the galaxy prior, Its still the way I said prior, but I would have gotten it without any kind of modules, big difference :p

the modules are the part that makes the ship expensive

Also don't think they will offer perseus paints lol until it releases

[grave canyon]

why are you pledging a galaxy for pilot controlled weapons

damn my industry ship aint got no pilot guns

[lone bloom]

I am not, thats the point

[grave canyon]

then what are you saying

[lone bloom]

I was just thinking about CCUing to an paladin and as backup plan could ccu further to the galaxy, but since the galaxy is unsoloable, at least combat wise, its shit for my gameplay loops

[grave canyon]

then what are you even saying

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-just-hanging-around-gif-6244099902315757809

[humble anvil]

Paladin

Gets

Quad Size 5

SLAVED TO PILOT BTW

What in the absolute fuck

I'm sorry

[foggy beacon]

wait wtf

[humble anvil]

They're all remote turrets

[foggy beacon]

that's insane

[humble anvil]

I think sorry it's the side turrets

Tldr tho, when blades come in, they will be ai controllable

So the side guns are pilot control

[foggy beacon]

oh

[humble anvil]

4x S4

[foggy beacon]

ok that's less scary

lol

[humble anvil]

The big boy, that's Co pilot controlled

For it's form factor, yeah. Quad S5 will feel great

[foggy beacon]

i kinda wanna hold off for now in terms of dropship

but the valk is looking quite nice with Liberator

[humble anvil]

Perseus better get pilot slaved guns

Or it's automation like stated in the brochure

I know leaks say 4x S4 Turrets, but I hope they push it a step further

4x S5

(I want our baby to be prevalent now and into the future) S4 guns will hinder it's abilities!!!!!

!!! It's a slow moving target like the Idris!!! It needs to be able to defend itself with the proper ordance!!!! Otherwise it's a dead ship!!!

The only proper thing to do is to give the Perseus 4x S5 (remote) slaved to the pilot if not crewed!

4x the price of a Connie!!!! 4x the firepower

!!!

[reef wind]

May as well give it a working microwave and a liquor bar

[steel thistle]

i don’t think manned turrets can be slaved

[errant ice]

Im not sure about slaving, but they can be bladed

[humble anvil]

Manned turrets can't be Bladed

I'm talking about giveing pilot the turret directly above the cockpit

Unless it's automated at launch, then screw slave

[pine root]

Some clarification, just in case

[pine root]

Also I'm pretty sure I saw an image a while ago of an AI blade, and it's supposed to replace the manned turret seat for a humongous machine that takes control of the manned turret

[humble anvil]

OH

OHHHHHH?

OHHHH!!!

I came

[lone bloom]

Alot of copium today for you

[lone bloom]

Also it wasn't originaly slaved to the pilot, making it a crew of 4 people, just after people cried too much they slaved it. I doubt that this will stay forever, and is just there to push sales

[humble anvil]

[crystal sleet]

it doesnt replace the entire turret, but instead the turret deploys armour panels to cover the canopy when bladed

[lone bloom]

Thought thats a fury for a moment

[crystal sleet]

also the rest of the stuff are concepts for the javelin turret

[crystal sleet]

i really want a turret that can detach and be a snub fighter

[lone bloom]

also it says class 7 turret, is that just an early concept of the main turrets and it got reworked heavily ?

[humble anvil]

Well. 4x S5 turrets sound better

[crystal sleet]

not sure, im guessing it was pre rework

[crystal sleet]

just checked the original concept, looks nothing like it. Its probably what the reworked turrets were meant to look like

https://andrewleyconcepts.com/turret

Heres the portfolio of the artist behind the concept, Andrew Ley

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/horny-jail-bonk-dog-hit-head-stop-being-horny-gif-17298755

[lone bloom]

Thats why the perseus takes so long, because he damaged the facility

[lone bloom]

Single person cells

[humble anvil]

**This is my Perseus. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

My Perseus is my shield, my fury, my judgment in the void.

Without me, my Perseus is powerless. Without my Perseus, I am exposed.
I must fly true. I must strike first. I must outgun the enemy who would destroy me.

I will learn its systems, its turrets, its pulse. I will know every deck, every click, every hum. We will become one.

My Perseus and I are the sentinels in the black. The hammer in deep space. The unflinching line between peace and chaos.
We fight together. We endure together. We never retreat.

This is my Perseus. There are many like it... but none bring retribution like mine.
**

[reef wind]

[steel sparrow]

Better sound this good 😌

[grave canyon]

no

they can

[humble anvil]

WOOHOOO!!!! HOW DID I MISS THIS?

OMFG

PERSEUS IS THE PERFECT SHIP

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sby-space-battleship-yamato-yamato-domelaze-gif-7604539323430144639

[steel sparrow]

NPC crewed OR AI blade

[quaint scaffold]

Dude everyday I see you coping in here for the perseus. Blink twice if you need help.

[foggy beacon]

oh lord

i would've brought that instantly if I didn't already have Perseus lmao

yes ik that's not a real image

[humble anvil]

i made it up

[reef wind]

My perseus crew is going to be a bunch of Pico plushies and poor decisions.

[grave canyon]

i've been telling about this to people the entire time and nobody be listenin

[reef wind]

The day I can steal penguins from microtech and use them as engineers is the day I truly feel alive

Live penguins when cig

[grave canyon]

this aint palworld bud

[reef wind]

You underestimate my power.

Penguins know rocket science. They can be taught to use power tools.

Bribe them with fish and chaos

The penguin corps of engineers will reign supreme

I will build them mechanical pants!

[crystal sleet]

bladed/slaved s7 turrets is something i can live wthout honestly. I dont want the Perseus to become another space dad ship

[grave canyon]

well cig said it not me

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/english-or-spanish-gif-13425221112560199657

[lone tundra]

That's why people are wanting blades so much, it's something CIG has talked about for a very long time. Even the Hammerhead is supposed to support 4 of its 6 turrets being bladed, by default, with no extra fuss about it

[humble anvil]

I just want to fly a cool ship and not have to worry about getting harassed by small ships

So many times I come out of bunkers and bullshit is flying over head

Polaris is cool but it's too big

(for me)

[crystal sleet]

god i hope CIG can figure out how to balance blades before it turns every ship into Elite Dangerous large ships

[humble anvil]

PDC AI but worse

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lone bloom]

and then reality hits and its "what do you mean i need 4 whole power pips just for the blades?"

[steel sparrow]

Ballistic weapons dont need that much energy anyways.

[lone bloom]

well yes but a hammerhead usually does not use ballistic

But yes, wonder how they will balance it out on ballistic guns, I guess they just don't xD

[steel sparrow]

maybe have us put more power into cooling so the gun doesn't overheat and expload?

[cursive drum]

Those ships are fine functionally. Slow and Whale Like in their maneuvering but ultimately fine.

[grave canyon]

it is easily balance-able, but since we're talking about cig it's gonna be broken for a while

[humble anvil]

Looking at current implementation of the Polaris, something will be under delivering or over delivering on expectations

And be that way for awhile

We had missiles, a few ships from a fully crewed Polaris, a Connie, guardian, and whatever else. Beating on this one Polaris for a few minutes

There was a Qi keeping it from being able to quantum

Took forever to kill it

Meanwhile every other ships, even a reclaimer ...v890jump. they pop like a cherry

So easy to kill in comparison. It's not fair

If Perseus doesn't release with 1m HP at least, we're so boned

"heaviest for it's class and size" meanwhile Polaris gets the lightest capital armor. I don't think 1m HP Perseus is out of the question but istg CIG

They're going to fuck it up

[lone bloom]

Honestly would have to HP buff the hh then too since it has only 200k (?) With Medium armor

Also if polaris has the weakest capital armor..... does that mean that the 890 and reclaimer have "no armor"?

[humble anvil]

CIG balancing

[crystal sleet]

reclaimer probably just has a thick hull rather than having armour, not sure what the 890 would have

[humble anvil]

That's fine to bring up other ships, but damn Polaris is so trash RN. The only efficient thing to do is to ram it

[lone bloom]

Immobilizing it

Shoot off the engines or open the Hangar bay to board

[humble anvil]

Still tho. HP inflation go brrrr

[lone bloom]

Also about the hammerhead

Even the Valk has leaked now about 90k HP

[humble anvil]

HH fkn 200k? I think

300k?

Literally nothing

[lone bloom]

200

[humble anvil]

Terrapin medic 120k

[lone bloom]

[humble anvil]

Polaris: 4M

CIG wtf

[lone bloom]

They have to buff hh alot xd

[humble anvil]

Sub capitals all need a buff

Reclaimer too even tho it's capital

[lone bloom]

Reclaimer is one of the easiest targets

Because of its huge ass

[humble anvil]

Yeah

[lone bloom]

Imagine they giving the perseus only 300k HP

[humble anvil]

I would fkn commit die

[lone bloom]

I expect 400k, hoping for 600-1000k

[humble anvil]

300k and as slow as a turtle* less mobility than the Polaris

[lone bloom]

Less Mobility than polaris was never said

Its less mobile than a hh

Still think it will be still way more agile than a polaris simply because of size

[humble anvil]

[crystal sleet]

CIG really gonna blue ball us for ILW huh

[humble anvil]

Hoping for atleast 600k

Hopefully it gets the new ship tax and it's upped to 1m

[lone bloom]

Well multiple ships are now in greybox finishing state and those are still not announced

Perhaps percy one of them but dunno

[humble anvil]

I need a heavy ass Perseus to ram the Polaris

[lone bloom]

U like the polaris that much i see

[crystal sleet]

i believe the Perseus is one of the ships to pass the first box stage of developement at the start of march

[lone bloom]

Wdym first Box stage its confirmed to be greybox already

[humble anvil]

They finished it in March, early or late? but needed graybox

Didn't say if it went to graybox

Prayge it did n they're being silent

[lone bloom]

Right, finishinh whitebox...

Which indecates that its going for the next

[crystal sleet]

yeah i keep forgetting which came first, one of the two

[humble anvil]

Ah so it's confirmed in graybox

I swear they didn't say

[lone bloom]

Gray is the last and second stage

White is the rough Model

[humble anvil]

The RSI kit hopefully comes in clutch boys

Perseus at ILW

[crystal sleet]

yup, and most are saying that its expected to take about 6 months to finish the second phase, though im not sure where theyre getting these numbers from or whish ships development theyre comparing the Perseus to

[lone bloom]

Gray is the fastest becausd of the assests

[humble anvil]

CIG please

RSI kit will expedite trust

Perseus at ILW

Captain corders from Polaris, beds from Zeus, elevator from Polaris. Hangar / cargo assets from Polaris

[crystal sleet]

though i wanna compare the Perseus development timeline to teh Hammerheads timeline (less than a year from concept sale to flyable), it might be the case where the HH had a longer developement time than ships nowadays due to it being extremely early on in SC's history relatively

[humble anvil]

Ya Xero. They didn't have copy paste kits back then

[crystal sleet]

i think the only other large flyable ships around the time of the Hammerhead was the Starfarer and Reclaimer

[humble anvil]

Mini Torp pay from Polaris

[lone bloom]

No Prior assets, way less experience realisticly perseus should not take longer than 3-4 months

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

And 3 months are already over

[humble anvil]

It'll be fast PERSEUS will come at ILW

[crystal sleet]

huh, i never took that into consideration when comparing the HH to the Pers, just focused on the time purely between concept sale to flyable

[lone bloom]

I mean they can literaly copy paste almost entire rooms

[humble anvil]

They will

[lone bloom]

I hope they dont at least for the captain room

[crystal sleet]

the question is then is how much are they willing to polish the Perseus before ILW, assuming they are actually aiming for ILW flyable

[lone bloom]

Because that one is so trash in the pooplaris

[crystal sleet]

or atleast how fast they can polish

[lone bloom]

Well animation lighting signage takes some time i assume

Unless they dont do Signage

Like in the polaris

[humble anvil]

Depends too if they want to wait for any particular mechanic or add it later

Ammo loading*

[crystal sleet]

hard to call em signage really lol

[lone bloom]

Also that they want to add Patrol Mission...

[humble anvil]

PATROL MISSION PERFECT FOR PERSEUS

[lone bloom]

Which is one of the Main things of the perseus xd

[humble anvil]

CIG PLEASE

[crystal sleet]

ammo replenishments can always be given a placeholder model for the time being, just a crude box with an apparent opening for a bix or sumn

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[lone bloom]

Just the reclaimer poop station

Just in rsi style

[lone bloom]

Guess i fueled his copium with that

[crystal sleet]

literally a reverse printer yeah

[humble anvil]

Since they're copy pasting, I think Perseus quality will be fine. The Zeus interior is phenomenal

[lone bloom]

Honestly thats what i am hoping for generally

[lone bloom]

But the Studio which did th3 polaris makes the perseus....

[crystal sleet]

god i really hopethey include a lot of the Zeus's assets, it looks so much better than the Polaris for some reason

i think it was the montreal team who did the Polaris

[humble anvil]

It'll be fine

[lone bloom]

Wasnt Montreal the one that did the cutter variants and then zeus

Because of being a new studio

[lone bloom]

Not if its as Bad as the poolaris interior

[crystal sleet]

yeah actually, its probs the NA team then

[humble anvil]

I'm going to go troll ptu chat

[crystal sleet]

lmao 🫡

[lone bloom]

The only good room in the polaris is the Torpedo room, Hangar bay, cargo and engineering

[humble anvil]

Cargo

Awoooga

[lone bloom]

Everything else is meh and captain Quarter shit

[humble anvil]

So good

[lone bloom]

Doesnt fit angle wise like at all

[humble anvil]

Yea

[crystal sleet]

oh yeah, i keep forgetting to bring this up because i think its an interesting take, but i feel like the torpedo room in the Perseus will be two floors;

The top "torp operator console" floor,
Then the bottom floor with the actual torpedoes.

The cargo bay would allow access to the lower floor, allowing for manual reloads of torpedos

[humble anvil]

Lol

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

Already said that in here multiple times because there is a stair next to the door or at least Ladder

[crystal sleet]

wait wheres the ladders/stairs to the lower floor

[lone bloom]

Also in the concept artwork of the polaris were originally also 2 floors

If you go through the door from the walkway

And directly turn right

There is a stair

[crystal sleet]

thats the escape pod i believe

[lone bloom]

Escape pod

In the Torpedo bay?

[crystal sleet]

escape pod hatches

lines up with the floor plan

[humble anvil]

Release her Chris

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/battleship-warship-uss-missouri-battleship-fire-cannon-fire-gif-14048301106970095650

[lone bloom]

2 Pods for a crew of 6 - in the point furthest away from engineering, crew quarters, AND the bridge

would be design wise the stupist place to put them xd

[humble anvil]

We go down with the ship, no escape pods

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-davy-gif-27098006

[crystal sleet]

pretty sure the pods in the torp bay is for the gunner and the engineer who might be in the torp bay, two more being in the bridge section. There mgith be two more for the two last crew members somewhere

[lone bloom]

why would be an engineer in the torp bay

there is probably nothing to repair, except maybe a single fuse

[crystal sleet]

iunno, the torpedo operator changed professions i guess

[lone bloom]

There is no torpedo operator in the percy xd

[crystal sleet]

huh, i cant find where the last two theoretical pods are, they might be on a wall we can see from this isometric angle

[crystal sleet]

exactly why they turned into the engineer

[lone bloom]

also can we please note that the perseus STILL HAS NO BATHROOM? Xd

[crystal sleet]

it might just be for the second gunner too i guess, the engineer being up on the bridge floor by the comps

[crystal sleet]

bathroom is the small room in the crew quarters, the furthest above the room

the bathroom itself isnt shown in the cutaway, but the door is there

it actually looks like the Zeus segmented doors

[lone bloom]

you mean there is missing a room

[crystal sleet]

das tha bitch

so that might mean the last two pods are in this ship,just not dipicted

[lone bloom]

imagine, someone going to poop there and there are two beds right next to the door

but since it has a crew of 6, u sure it wouldn't have a slightly bigger bathroom than a zeus? XD

[crystal sleet]

also, looking at the crew quarters, im realising that its quite inefficient in terms of usage of space

[lone bloom]

especially since it still has 2 too many beds

[crystal sleet]

well i feel like it is

[lone bloom]

there are 8 bed

but max crew is 6

7 in crew quarter, 1 in captain

[crystal sleet]

i count 7, 6 in CQ and 1 in captains, which also reinforces that the crew quarters can be EXTREMELY compact if redesigned properly

[lone bloom]

give me a sec :p

[crystal sleet]

oh wait, theres actually two bathrooms in the crew quarts

the second one is in the top right of the room

if they made the beds into bunks, they can add an armoury with gunracks and suitlockers, or a medbay

[lone bloom]

nvm its 7, there is just one blank wall thought thats an bed xD

yeah space wise the crew quarter is shit

[crystal sleet]

seriously, too much space being used for habitation ond messhall

[lone bloom]

could be easily split into two rooms

[crystal sleet]

make three of those beds bunk beds, and youll get an entire half of the room free for anything

[lone bloom]

and the single beds are first officer beds

[crystal sleet]

yup, luxurious single bed

[lone bloom]

and you got easily room for medical or armoury

[crystal sleet]

do you think the captains quarters is too large? Like theres an entire bed and a half worth of space between the desk and the bed

[lone bloom]

tbf they said there will be weapon lockers and suitlockers

just not in a dedicated room

[crystal sleet]

next to airlocks and such

[lone bloom]

and bridge i assume

and prob next to the elevator in second floor

similar setup like in the zeus

[crystal sleet]

well there seems to be quite a lot of wall space for in-wall lockers

[lone bloom]

airlock, entrance, bridge

[crystal sleet]

especially on the wall we cant see

[lone bloom]

I see them copy pasting the polaris captain room...

tbf the one on the hammerhead is bigger

also looks like either captain got his own escape pod, or own bathroom (bathroom more likely)

[crystal sleet]

bery likely since the Polaris cap room is basically the Perseus cap room, just squashed with the bed and bathroom seperated from the desk space

[lone bloom]

yeah i just hate that the captain basically gets the same bed

as the normal crew

[crystal sleet]

oh fuck wait a second

the last two pods are potentially here

it matches the escape pod area in the torp room

[lone bloom]

I expect the suit lockers and weaponlockers to be here btw

• bridge

[crystal sleet]

i dont see them being in the messhall, but yeah i agree with the cargo bay one

[lone bloom]

perhaps at least those are near the crew quarter xD

[lone bloom]

Not mess hall, in the hallway behind it .-.

[crystal sleet]

also i might be wrong about the supposed last two pod locations because there isnt a visible hatch on the hull of the ship

[crystal sleet]

oh then yeah

[lone bloom]

kinda expected those things to be also stairs

like secondary entrance to the second floor from the cargo bay

so u don't have to use the elevator

also I wonder btw....

they said we will be able to manually refill the torpedos...

but the cargo bay is one floor beneath...

[crystal sleet]

they might be ladders instead because it sems to be a straight 90 degree angle up

[lone bloom]

how are we supposed to get the torpedos to the torpedo bay?

[crystal sleet]

the cargo bay is inline with the lower space of the topr bat im pretty sure

[lone bloom]

maybe thats what the second floor of the torpedo room is for

xD

[crystal sleet]

there should be a door where the catwalk begins in the torp room

[lone bloom]

so many questionsmarks about the interior of the perseus because its simply not shown in the interior concept artwork

[crystal sleet]

its got so much detail yet not enough...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/we-were-this-close-krennic-orson-krennic-star-wars-rogue-one-gif-26204033

also when imperial admiral clothes?

xD

[crystal sleet]

well the upcoming pilot suit is kinda like that i think

[lone bloom]

yeetmaster writing a book

[steel sparrow]

tbh the dev team should probably check this club for advice

[lone bloom]

nvm

[steel sparrow]

nah was thinking for a word

[crystal sleet]

ah nvm the pilot suit is more like the Tenno spermsuit from Warframe

[lone bloom]

[steel sparrow]

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/so-ugly-dj-hunts-so-hideous-so-plain-looking-so-unattractive-gif-15501025291355131051

so tennos are black sperms?

that sounded more racist than it was in my head tbf

https://tenor.com/view/shame-cube-timeout-time-out-gif-9475139

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/haramusa-haramusa-ultimate-haramusa-zzz-haramusa-zenless-zone-zero-gif-14828023580795896494

[lone bloom]

They just would look at it and make it worse just to trigger people

[steel sparrow]

dev be like: "lets see what ppl want so we can avoid that"

[lone bloom]

average ubisoft and nintendo devs

[crystal sleet]

well in that case, WE WANT MROE PANEL LINIGS

[crystal sleet]

i tried remaking the Perseus in that ship builder site, i could not find the bloody hull

[lone bloom]

ship builder site? xD

[crystal sleet]

yeah theresa site that has ship parts you can put together, cant remember what its called

[lone bloom]

dunno don't know that one

i mean just grab a idris 3D file and a perseus one

and do it in blender xD

[crystal sleet]

oh its Shipforge

[steel sparrow]

copemaster.com XD

[lone bloom]

also you cannot texture the 3d File of the perseus in blender for some reason

[crystal sleet]

stealth Perseus

[steel sparrow]

imagine optical camo in sc

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/theninja77123-gif-8009537136196829283

[cursive drum]

And 890J should also be increased!

[humble anvil]

yea

[raw lichen]

890 is a cruise ship, not a war ship.

[lone bloom]

funfact, pdcs don't target larger ships anymore, so 890 got nerfed :p

[raw lichen]

on PTU? Does it apply to the Polaris as well?

[cursive drum]

Sheerly by mass alone.

[cursive drum]

Why??

Define “larger ships.”

[lone bloom]

the largest its shooting is 400I

and that seems only to be a bug

[cursive drum]

It has been doing that for a while.

[lone bloom]

well, came up recently in the normal chat i don't own any ship with PDCs since all of them are way too expensive

[cursive drum]

Poor.

[lone bloom]

More like responsable with my money

[lone bloom]

also tried myself on "remaking" one of the RSI concept artworks (from the RSI Heavy fighter) any suggestion what else to change besides the rear and doubling the pilot weapons? xd

(original concept from Imperium games)

Would've imagine it having 2x S6, and copilot with 2x S2 or 2xS3 as movable turret on the top and back

[lone bloom]

Like - being an Ares competitor basically as two seater

[sand hound]

percy would pop if you try to ram it against a polaris

[pine root]

Depends on the mass right?

[humble anvil]

it depends on the mass

[sand hound]

the percy doesnt have the mass

[humble anvil]

regardless, it will take it out of the game

1:1 trade is fair

[sand hound]

its not a 1:1 trade

the polaris survives 100%

[humble anvil]

a connie is a 50/50 shot of taking the polaris out of the game

i think something that weighs, atleast 10x that

will be enough to take the polaris out 90% of the time

[sand hound]

i dont know what game your playing but i get rammed by connies and dont even go red

i shrug that shit off

[humble anvil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sand hound]

CIG is against the idea of ship ramming being an option in combat so they will figure out a way to prevent it from being viable

[humble anvil]

ok

[sand hound]

i think the percy will for sure be able to damage the polaris

a group would for sure be able to take it out

but they wont win by ramming

[lone bloom]

wow my question just got straight up ignored i see xd

[sand hound]

angle the wings on the sides like how scorp, zeus, and polaris have angled wings. Put the turret on tracks like scorp so it can go from top position to bottom, maybe have a middle spot inbetween that the turret can also stop at so it has better angle for directly rear

[lone bloom]

the turret is on tracks

[cursive drum]

So… a Better Guardian?

[lone bloom]

has the guardian a Turret? or S6?

So, kind of, yes, but missing the interior

[cursive drum]

2 X S5.

[lone bloom]

I know

[lone bloom]

ya mean like that? (the wings)

[sand hound]

ya

[steel sparrow]

Maybe give it some PDC on the wing tip, make the gun a single size 6 repeater

Heck, make it a bespoke “beam” weapon that increases damage the longer it’s on target

[cursive drum]

Mayhaps a S5 nose gun and 2 S3 wing guns?

[steel sparrow]

That just a Bucc

[humble anvil]

[lone bloom]

But its a heavy fighter, not an larger ship maybe the turret can be a pdc if unused

[steel sparrow]

The pdcs could need some power to operate 🤔

[lone bloom]

Capital Reactor lets go

[lone bloom]

Update

would be a nice addition to the perseus fleet

[crystal sleet]

looks like itd somehow dock to the Perseus somwhere, like how teh kingship has a heavy fighter hiden above the bridge

[lone bloom]

Behind the bridge where i did put the fourth turret

[crystal sleet]

oooohhh i can see that. the wings would blend in with the winglets and flaps

[lone bloom]

Looking like engines and then bam its a snub

[humble anvil]

P-Perseus?

🥺

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-gif-20609847

https://www.reddit.com/r/spaceengineers/comments/1jwszg6/the_falchion_a_space_engineers_showcase/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Medical Perseu?

[lone bloom]

the visual look of that is almost an insult to the perseus

[charred basin]

WHERE IS PERSEUS

WHERE IS HE

[humble anvil]

spaceengineers

[fluid plume]

wild that starlancer tac has medbed and perseus does not

[lone bloom]

Starlancer tac being a dropship while the perseus is not

[humble anvil]

I could see them making Perseus incredibly OP at release (ballistics are shit)

And back pedaling after release

Talking 8k alpha per cannon (ofc reduc. to 4k - modifiers)

Just to sell the thing

[reef wind]

So much cope in here lately

[tepid wasp]

Lately?

[humble anvil]

Really hoping it gets upscaled weaponry wise

PDCs added etc like the leak rumors

Quoting this guy is stupid, and probably massive bait but

Apparently it's 2x Quad S4

Really hoping

The stock Grade A military powerplant would be humongous

Lol sounds like fake shit tbh. All the same comps as a HH

[crystal sleet]

i still think, if at all, the remote turrets are still dual guns

[humble anvil]

I still think because of it's purpose

It will be upscaled

[crystal sleet]

yeah, s4 duals

[humble anvil]

The ironchad gets quad s5

[crystal sleet]

where on earth is that s5 turret though

[humble anvil]

Like excuse me? Wtf

I get it, it's a combined arms platform

But it can also carry 1000 SCU of Cargo

[crystal sleet]

but thats basically a whole ass connie on a puck

[humble anvil]

Yah know? So that's why I think

It'll get the quad s4

Atleast

The hammy gets quad s4

And our persy will have only 2 turrets

Plus the 2x s7

If it doesn't get the quad S4, it will have trouble screening itself

Quad S3 is crazy for a cargo ship

2 of em

Plus a quad s5

Tf

[crystal sleet]

itd be an interesting quirk of hammerhead sized ships all getting quad s4 turrets

[humble anvil]

Better gunboat than a gunboat

Even the paladin is quad s5

Like wtf

[crystal sleet]

but theyll probably justify not giving quads to the Perseus because "its not meant to do well against fighters, and is intended to rely on other ships to support its downfalls"

paladin is probably less armoured than the Perseus

thats why they need to minmax stuff

[humble anvil]

If they make it so ridiculously tanky for it's size, I won't be mad

And they keep the s3's but add the PDCs

But if it's the same HP as a hammer, and it's release like shit with no PDC and all original stats. The ship will suck

It'll get bullied so hard

[crystal sleet]

yeah, at that point youd need to rely on strength through numbers

[humble anvil]

Sure we can pick off turrets, engines, etc on Connie's no problem but lol

Connies

Really?

[crystal sleet]

why does it always come back around to the connie

[humble anvil]

Not with how HP inflated the Polaris is

[crystal sleet]

its like the Final Crab Evolution of anything

[humble anvil]

Perseus ain't doing shit

[crystal sleet]

three Perseus's doe

[humble anvil]

Yeah it'll chonk

But no PDC, it'll get obliterated

Prayge those gunners shoot the torp

[crystal sleet]

its funny, because for a capital ship, most the firepower comes from it PDCs

well it feels like it

[humble anvil]

I flew a Polaris the other day

I've never felt so safe

The biggest middle finger to hornets n heavy fighters that bully me every day in a Connie/nomad

[crystal sleet]

yeah those pdts are beams, i cant shake them off

[humble anvil]

Bros fly away from me lol

Well

Still. 4xS7 guns will be good:)

Maybe not the best now, but later. If we make it that far, it'll do good

It'll be fun to turret big fuck u cannons

[crystal sleet]

inb4 they upgun it

[humble anvil]

S8

Maybe man

They're pretty far apart. Idkkk

Might be s8

If they announced details, it would overshadow everything new

They gotta sell the Varient bs heavy fighters

First

TAC as well

While not the best for us, it's good in the long run

[crystal sleet]

more time to cook

[humble anvil]

Also

Think about this

No defense con leak

So far only tac, gray cat CSV

Nothing from RSI yet

I think Drake n RSI will be back end of ILW

where the good shits at

Anvil Asgard also

Was mentioned

Perseus wasn't mentioned whitebox to surprise ILW (?)

[crystal sleet]

🤞

[humble anvil]

CIG purposely misleading info to surprise drop (?)

We got the Idris tour, CSV, TAC, Asgard. Nothing from RSI n Drake yet. Because they're hiding it, and will push it last minute

Perseus drop

[crystal sleet]

itll be the FOMO of this year

[humble anvil]

TRUST

They'll cook and do all their mid tier sales

oh the missing exhibit is here, it arrived late

Perseus

Missing exhibit is probably the Polaris but Polaris could be cover up code for Perseus (?)

[crystal sleet]

maybe, the do like using code names in the past

[humble anvil]

🤞

[crystal sleet]

🤞

[humble anvil]

End up fighting Perseus in the wild

Because frontier fighters stole them

[crystal sleet]

Xenothreat Perseus vs Slicer Perseus vs Player Perseus

[wooden trench]

Underslung according to concept

[sand hound]

bigger gun size =/= better

Hammerhead is an anti fighter ship and the bigger the gun size the slower the projectile making it harder to actually kill nimble fighters

i think it was late last year on an ISC but they are working on adding new guns specific to things within a size range so a size 4 anti fighter and a size 4 anti big ship. They would still be within the current stat range for sizes but anti fighter one would be faster at the cost of damage and the bigger ship would be slower with higher damage. Once we see that stuff get added we may see the hammerhead sizes change

It actually could have been earlier last year, it was right around the time the redeemer got nerfed.

[crystal sleet]

now THAT is a fighter

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[steel sparrow]

An actual heavy fighter that's HEAVY

[lone bloom]

Ares just as RSI

[steel sparrow]

I mean as in a anti fighter(?) role

[lone bloom]

S6 isn't anti fighter, but surely can be used as one

[crystal sleet]

me when Flak88

[lone bloom]

hmmmm would be funny a laser version and one ballistic version and the ballistic version is able to restock its own ammo due to the 4 SCU, and also able to switch the ammo type like Flak

[crystal sleet]

could introduce laser cells for ballistic cannons, a whole self contained single use laser emitter in a shell

[humble anvil]

Looks good

[fluid plume]

We were robbed of Polaris pool table

[cursive drum]

Temu F8. But I’d probably buy it if not for the bespoke 2 S6.

[lone bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1318064016769417266/no-u.gif

Wouldn't even say that they look similar

[wooden trench]

Man f8 is ugly

[lone bloom]

Glad that I am not the only one with that opinion

[wooden trench]

The hornet looks great, the gladiator looks good enough and then there's that, thing lurking in the corner

[lone bloom]

Kinda looks to me like they 'overengineered' it

Like, trying to fit as many shapes and angles into it as possible

[wooden trench]

Yeah I would agree

[lone bloom]

More like ... a Temu Minotaurus

[agile tinsel]

from a design standpoint, it's also incredibly impractical

way too much body for what it is

[humble anvil]

Perseus leaks in Evo build pls

Please plspls

Just mention the perseus

I want to hear : "RSI Perseus ; The Defender of Stanton. Please see the RSI Exhibit for more details "

[reef wind]

No perseus for you

[humble anvil]

😭

[raw lichen]

Not yet. not yet, we have still hope.

[crystal sleet]

still too early, cant be the final build

[raw lichen]

Maybe our beloved Perseus is the redaced thing they mentioned in the notes.
After all, we now have bladed Idris flying around everywhere and apparently Wikelo has a Super Big Ship surprise lol

But then again, we are dealing with CIG here 😄

[steel sparrow]

Perseus surprise u say?

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-18978923

Deus Ex Perseus

[errant ice]

Im sorry what

[crystal sleet]

there is a redacted point in the recent patch notes, which could be the Perseus

[errant ice]

Im more interested in that idris wandering about

Where is it and why is it, i need to enslave it

[crystal sleet]

probably part of the upcoming event, or the idris that flies around for interior tours

[errant ice]

Oh boy

[raw lichen]

The Idris is part of an ambush mission.

[lone bloom]

Lmao

So basically an polaris exclusive mission at least the high tier one

how much does that one pay?

[raw lichen]

It was not much, 130k or so?
It failed to trigger for me right now but I try again.
But these ships have plenty of cargo of course. Since this was a Headhunters mission it is fair to assume they even have ..drugs? Like with the Vaughn missions

Imagine you find 600 eggs and some 100 maze on an Idris lol

But seen players flying around in Idris already.

[lone bloom]

If the idris is stuffed with eggs and maze fair

but 173K für fighting an idris, while with bounties you get 166K for fighting a shitty hammerhead?

[raw lichen]

I just use my Avenger Titan. Easy fight. Just takes a few days...

[lone bloom]

fighting an idris should be by minimum 400+K

payment

Because you clearly need crewed ships, or alot of time

[raw lichen]

Tell CIG 🙂

[lone bloom]

I mean I am happy that they introduce again capital fighting missions, which are needed for the polaris (soon perseus)

but the payment ouch

[lone bloom]

You know they ignore it

[raw lichen]

You get quite a CS when you kill 107 people onboard 😄
The cargo is ok - if it was a C2 or Cat, but not an Idris

[lone bloom]

thats idris cargo?

[raw lichen]

yes

[lone bloom]

Better of doing hammerhead mission then

[raw lichen]

And it appears to have an open hangar bay by default.

So, soon everyone has a fully bladed Xenothreat Idris on live.

Ravit, I did a few of the normal ambush missions. Got 40-50 by just 3 missions.
Also, the new RAFT rocks hard. Its great

but back to topic 🙂

[lone bloom]

So just gonna fly inside with an C8R you say

and have a C2 on standby

nvm don't need an C2, I mean you could fly it back to an hangar... drop the cargo out on the floor and store it xD

Fighting with an Perseus against an Idris soonTM lets go

https://tenor.com/view/star-citizen-bengal-sq42-sc-gif-26997930

[steel sparrow]

I think u meant "which would be the Perseus"

[crystal sleet]

as much as id love to be that hopeful...

-# its still a possibility...

[steel sparrow]

Maybe the "patrol' mission is tailored for Percy?

[lone bloom]

Don't you think they would say if it is the percy? xd

Polaris is also a patrol ship

[crystal sleet]

the Perseus certainly is a long range patrol ship, though it does make sense to introduce caputal grade ships first to give the Perseus more targets to shoot at

but then, itd wouldnt be a bad idea to just drop the Perseus at the same time for the sake of just having it there in the first place

[lone bloom]

Well I do think honestly rn the perseus is even a badly required ship

Simply because there isn't much that could deal with a polaris other than a polaris

[crystal sleet]

there needs to be an equaliser of a different scale, something that, as CIG intends with the Perseus, bridge the gap between classes and sizes

[lone bloom]

Still do think exactly thats the reason why the Perseus moved to #1 in pipeline

And galaxy got moved to #2

(and probably modularity xD)

[crystal sleet]

also desperately needed as soon as possible ignoring the possible flow of new pledge funds

[lone bloom]

They get either way a fuck ton of new funds if the perseus releases

Pretty sure its together with the Ironclad and Pioneer one of the most awaited ships generally

for this year at least

And an unhealthy amount of people own a perseus

[crystal sleet]

some of us own multiple as well

[lone bloom]

Where is mine then

[crystal sleet]

funded via renting of Perseus' to fund your own ingame

i dont have disposable income (yet)

[lone bloom]

Would literally farm ERT Hammerhead all day xD

166K per mission would be fast as fuck boy to get one ingame

[crystal sleet]

just aim for the powerplant and watch it melt from the inside out

[lone bloom]

• potential cargo

[lone bloom]

once engineering is there you mean

... hmmm you sure want to put incendary ammo in your top turret? xD

[crystal sleet]

yeah, well you can still kinda damage comps rn if you hit ships right

[crystal sleet]

plasma shels would go hard

[lone bloom]

Plasma is more like areal ground damage not ship to ship from what I've read

[crystal sleet]

speaking of which, i really need to get back to the bubble from Colonia, i miss my plasma Corvette

[lone bloom]

Still think incendary will be a real threat to bigger ships

especially against skeleton crewed or solo crewed ships

wait - polaris has a quite long hallway towards the bridge, like the Herkules right...?

[crystal sleet]

its basically a hallway with s10 torps

[lone bloom]

What if you set that on fire first... so they have to fight that fire first...

And while they fight that fire, you cause everything else to catch fire internally

stopping them from fighting the actual "bad" fires by locking them on the bridge by the first fire

Strategic fire placement

[crystal sleet]

plus it seems the fire extinguishers are in unintuitive locations, requiring crew to potentially move through burning rooms just to get to an extinguisher

[lone bloom]

could see that ammo to become meta against larger ships

[crystal sleet]

i agree, specifically capital ships and dropships

so many potentially combat kills

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-burn-it-beavis-fire-beavis-and-butt-head-lets-destroy-it-gif-8079047401231626912

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-live-i-die-i-live-again-nux-mad-max-fury-road-resurrection-nicholas-hoult-gif-6889109572721885990

[lone bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/regal-t-mad-max-that-up-yes-gif-143274292656225120

[fluid plume]

Yeah no Polaris is joke in cap fights doesn’t have the firepower, and torps are more like fireworks then an actual threat to another cap

[lone bloom]

They are, you did notice the torp ramming methode?

[fluid plume]

Maybe when dumb fired torps weren’t tracked by pdc but they are now, otherwise getting that close has equal risk of torp blowing up in Polaris face

[raw lichen]

I think this is the cloest it comes to our Perseus.
Standing ready on my bridge, watching the turrets destroy ships

[crystal sleet]

this is a very wierd angle from teh ship, is that in one of the observation rooms on the sides of teh bridge?

[raw lichen]

Its the bridge.

[crystal sleet]

oh right, the position of the s5 turret relative to the bridge window threw me off

[steel sparrow]

I thought the front turrent is S7?

[crystal sleet]

lemme check

[[idris-k]]