Perseus Pals

[steel thistle]

the percy and bengal image

cropped out the bengal tho

made the resolution wallpaper scaling weird so it’s just this part of the image now

[amber crest]

Sick wallpaper though NGL

[tepid wasp]

Beautiful wallpaper and for showing the original source!

[steel thistle]

np

[crystal sleet]

just realised these images actually look different from the concept, perhaps this is what the perseus will look like?

[drifting solar]

No no that’s old, older than the concept itself
That model was still halfway morphed between the old weird Perseus and the one we know now
You can see parts of the old first concept on the sides, where the docking port is

[crystal sleet]

oh i see, i thought they were the kibbling

ah yeah i can see it now, some artifacts left over where you said

[round zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1308926977834487808/image.png?ex=673fb8be&is=673e673e&hm=31023e180b4cd1d771c6c4358892d55b59f999011648c94384ec4aa909e7be92&

[crystal sleet]

Fucking what

That cant be real

[steel thistle]

it is

[steel thistle]

i don’t own a polaris in my hangar rn but i have one in asop

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wtf-stunned-dumbfounded-gif-7658627

Well then, guess we can enjoy free shit for a year or two

[steel thistle]

W CIG

i finna not get a polaris now

i will hold onto this nautilus to polaris CCU

and maybe get a paladin

especially rn where polaris is in this weird spot

[crystal sleet]

I hope cig goes with a true ww2 style warship for the paladin, considering cigs definition of a gunship can range from the a2 to the perseus to the valkerie

[steel thistle]

where idk if i’ll want it when percy comes out

because there will probs be a new better cap ship like idris

but even idris is kinda mid

i’m sure it’ll get up gunned

[crystal sleet]

Upgunned railgun

[steel thistle]

and if i end up falling in love with the polaris in the next year or two

when percy comes out i can still get one

but they’ll definetly rush to get percy done now

so they don’t have to keep the polaris loaner up

[crystal sleet]

So does the polaris replace the hammerhead or the vanguard

[steel thistle]

hammerhead probably, maybe it’s all 3 though

[crystal sleet]

Maybe considering its size

[steel thistle]

some people have a glitch where polaris isn’t showing up

but HH and vanguard still are

so maybe it is all 3

[crystal sleet]

Also they better not rush the perseus too much, i still want a good looking ship without any extra last minute greebles and wierd function choices

[crystal sleet]

You mean 2 right?

[steel thistle]

no as in polaris, vanguard and HH

[steel thistle]

🙏🏻

[crystal sleet]

Ah ok

[wooden trench]

I have a polaris in my ASOP

[errant warren]

Pesoos

[sage python]

Officially staying a member of this club lmao

[amber crest]

Looks like we are going to get a bunch of new friends because of the new polaris prices.

[steel thistle]

yep

[sage python]

Since the polaris got a big facelift from the flat panels and navy blue, I'm interested to see what happens with the Perseus

[fluid matrix]

Do you guys think a release ILW 2025* is realistic?

[fluid plume]

Nope

Earliest with insane amount of copium is IAE 25

[sand hound]

thats wrong

iae will be pioneer

i doubt they will release pioneer, perseus, and ironclad together

[fluid plume]

Absolutely insane you think pioneer even has 1% chance of release next year lol

Last citcon Polaris was approaching graybox and had content cut and was rushed and released this IAE and you think a ship that they didn’t even have a white box to show off and is bigger and has game changing mechanics that need to be developed is gonna be done in 13 months starting from this citcon

Perseus I would say has 60% chance of releasing next year since Polaris is done that team is probably banging out the Perseus starting in next few weeks

[steel thistle]

no

im gonna say iae next year

shares 60% reusable assets of the polaris

which is why they fast tracked it over galaxy

[crystal sleet]

I just hope they dont give the perseus turrets the same basket canopy glass as the polaris s6 turret. I want to keep the flat angled forward glass since it just looks much more coherent with the rest of the ship, or maybe make it into a solid metal armour panel and have the gunner see out of a surround 3d augmented reality hologram

Also the deed is done

[steel thistle]

🔥

[errant warren]

MMH MMH MH Noice

[crystal sleet]

The long required upgrade from 3 months to lti was long overdue

[errant warren]

I got 10 years on mine

[crystal sleet]

i forgot my atls was an lti token and melted it lmao

[errant warren]

lol

[tepid wasp]

A true nightmare!

[wanton estuary]

As a proud Polaris owner and lover.. I caved and got its little brother as well (it’s gonna increase in price 100% so I got it for no regrets later)

[crystal sleet]

Welcome to the fleet captain

[errant warren]

I hope perseus is proper fleet defense

[crystal sleet]

She will be, theres a reason why they wanted something between the polaris and hammerhead

[ebon salmon]

all through phase 3 i wish we had percy to knock off idris turrets and pdc so the torps could hit

[crystal sleet]

Maybe we'll get another save stanton style event next year with the perseus, no way theyll just release her without giving us an oppurtunity to rain depleted uranium tungsten rain on large ships

[fluid plume]

As long as Perseus main guns are not as big of a joke as Polaris size 6, 4 Perseus could probably take out a idris better then 4 Polaris’s lol

[cursive drum]

Same.

[stable granite]

Nah 4 Polaris torp volleys would be too much for defence systems

PDS won’t stop 4 fighters, bunch of decoy size 3 missiles and 12 size 10s lol

[sand hound]

PDS doesnt need to stop 4 fighters cause fighters cant damage capital ships

and rn the idris is easily able to shutdown 4 torp volleys from 2 polaris' only ever done phase 3 with 2 polaris' so i dont know what the upper limit is

[signal vortex]

ya torps are really ez to kill or doge are chaff

[round zodiac]

good thing our torps are just a distraction

[cursive drum]

890J can stop 3 Polaris.

[fluid plume]

Yea 4 Polaris is no threat to idris

[stable granite]

oh come off it, all polaris needs to do is send a fighter to shoot out the pds and then launch the torps

[cursive drum]

No fighter or fighter trio is taking out an 890Js PDCs. It doesn’t hold enough fighters for that and the 890J has multiple large caliber turrets. The new weapon targetting mode doesn’t highlight PDCs either.

[stable granite]

itll be balanced out later once the ACTUAL GAME IS MADE

honestly all this balance talk pisses me off, we should be mad about game progress rather than current balance

[cursive drum]

I paid for it now. It was placed in game now. So why was it placed in game if it isn’t useable now? Besides, how exactly do you think they are going to change it upon “Release?”

[stable granite]

exactly.

[cursive drum]

We can be equally mad about all of those things.

[stable granite]

people in this discord love to taste CIG all day, you cant say anything negative about how the game is progressing in development

like 4.0 cut features for a small example

Polaris sucks because there are a bunch of balance issues, because there are a bunch of missing game features, because there is a bunch of missing game development!

[crystal sleet]

Dont even need go use guns, just point blank a missile and take it out with blast radius

[crystal sleet]

I thought we complained a hella lot when something happens, remember the Galaxy base building thing? Mastermodes as well

[stable granite]

dont get me started on MM

i said it would be a disaster from day 0 and here we are

still absolutely shite

[crystal sleet]

Yeah, although i dont mind it since im usually doing pve, but its still kinda dumb, especially not being able to use countermeasures because theyre linked to the weapon system somehow? Thats too dumb, id understand this if quantum boosting was a thing rn, but without qt boost its just an unfinished feature that ruins the flow

[tepid wasp]

Server Meshing > cut features

[fluid plume]

Server meshing is cool and all get to experience a broken no content game with more people in 1 session I guess

[heavy grove]

:feelsgoodman:

[tepid wasp]

Im not sure what your Perseus plan is but shooting larger targets (capital ships) more frequently due to Server Meshing is what is what I guess my plan is.

[fluid plume]

Deliver box missions what else

[sage python]

Put that 50scu to WORK

[crystal sleet]

Honestly could be a good armoured transport, like thos cash transport trucks that banks use, but meaner

[sage python]

Absolutely

I was kindof thinking of using the Polaris similarly

Get like 2-3 people to man turrets

[wooden trench]

Attention Hull E, this is your last warning. Stop now or we will destroy you

[cursive drum]

Phoenix:

[cursive drum]

The Hull E in question:

[lone tundra]

The Hull E should have 2 capital shield generators - double the Polaris, don't think you're taking that out with a Perseus tbh >_>

[cursive drum]

Why? They are both capital except it's from a line of ships known to be lax on security.

[lone tundra]

The Perseus isn't even really designed to take out capital ships to begin with, although it should be up for the job due to it's loadout and heavy armor

[cursive drum]

In what way?

[wooden trench]

I mean even breaking an arm off would probably extremely profitable. But it could easy be Hull B/C/D too

[lone tundra]

It's designed to be an answer against subcaps. Not caps

[lone tundra]

D is also a capital ship, but sure, you could potentially break off an arm I guess

[cursive drum]

It is better armed then a Polaris.

[wooden trench]

Also, capital shields but no shields in Nav mode.

[lone tundra]

I'd be curious to see those calculations, since the Perseus is forced ballistic and will run out of ammo at some point, so you could use 4x Ares Infernos for that (in a comparison)

[lone tundra]

You're not going to catch up to one in nav mode then - Perseus is 92m/s SCM at the moment, by it's Q&A

[cursive drum]

Ok but Polaris Torps can't be used against a target that can shoot back leaving it with 2 X S6 and 8 x S4 and 12 X S3 although I doubt anyone wants to use the S3.

[lone tundra]

I was not even looking at the 2x S6 gun or torps at a glance, since those would run out of ammo at some point too.

It would have 8x S4 & 12x S3, without its torps & 2x S6

The Perseus would have 4x S7, 4x S3, for turrets, then the question is how much damage can you do before you run out of ammo - can you even break two capital shields, and disable the ship in that time

[cursive drum]

4 x S7 is more crew efficient, has longer range and is probably doing similar amounts of damage.

However, it is supposed to have special shells like, for example, Incendiary which may give it bonuses as well as having bleed through and the ability to take out engineering.

[wooden trench]

And 40 s5 torps, over 600k damage right there. I doubt the Hull series will get a PDC

[cursive drum]

The Perseus will have the same problem as the Polaris in an actual fight.

[wooden trench]

What's that, close enough for guns is too close for torps?

[cursive drum]

PDCs will kill torps unless the target has already been rendered helpless in which case why even bother when Lasers would do it for cheaper.

[lone tundra]

It's already covered in turrets which function as PDC, would be surprised if a 372 meter long capital ship does not get PDC too, considering the 890 got them.

I think it was just a bad example though, Perseus would be taking out Hammerheads and such just fine - but massive capitals, no, you'd want multiple Perseus' alongside other stuff

[wooden trench]

I mean most targets for raiding don't/probably won't have pdcs.
Ironclad, Hull C, herc, mining ships. Hull E is probably too big but still an example depends on how it ends up

[cursive drum]

Ironclad probably will. Especially Ironclad Assault.

[lone tundra]

I would expect all capitals to have PDC - the Pioneer even has flak cannons like a Javelin

Hull C isn't a capital, Ironclad would not have PDC either but it has decent (topside) turret coverage, Hercs wouldn't, Arrastra doesn't, etc

[wooden trench]

Yeah but assault won't have what you want, Juicy cargo

[lone tundra]

IIRC the Ironclad only has a single turret for bottom coverage, basically the perfect target then, theoretically

[cursive drum]

Just why?

[lone tundra]

It's just a heavily armored cargo ship

[wooden trench]

You're in space, just roll

[cursive drum]

"Heavily Armored."

Attacks from the bottom.

[cursive drum]

And if I roll with them?

[wooden trench]

Outskilled

[fluid plume]

Dang master and commander never thought I’d see another human who knows that movie

[marsh zephyr]

I'm just worried the Percy will be too slow even to catch subcaps haha

[cursive drum]

It probably will be.

[crystal sleet]

I dont mind having to hold a site or slowly chase a faster ship, as long as my gunners have a firing solution and the guns are doing something whether that be chasing away ships, or keep fleeing ships stay fleeing.

[cursive drum]

What if the fleeing ship just… drives away?

[crystal sleet]

Then the battle is won, the site has been defended successfully

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-snoopy-peanuts-dance-dancing-gif-4661163447294430163

[cursive drum]

I’m trying to kill them. Not defend anything.

[crystal sleet]

If theyre cocky enough to turn back to you, which they might do because theyll underestimate the percy, you should be able to do that

[cursive drum]

Ok but assuming they realize I am superior, then what? That basically just makes me a fortress.

[crystal sleet]

Then start playing this in the background

https://youtu.be/RJK0jhymE5A?si=M3m-51lI2LEYJFgj

[cursive drum]

This only applies to my Javelin. I am KOSing any Perseus I hear listening to ⚡my⚡️ theme song.

[crystal sleet]

Well dont throw a hissy fit when 20 Perseus's jump out of quantum and start wailing on your javy while we listen to ❤️‍🔥OUR🔥 theme song

https://youtu.be/7cw4APoaaSQ?si=Xc5_dUAWqu4U8Zh2

[cursive drum]

I would easily kill 20 Perseus.

[crystal sleet]

Kills 20 Perseus's after a solid 20 minutes of straight broadsiding and torp spam
Mfw 20 more perseus's jump in, all blasting the Galactic Pilot over global comms

[cursive drum]

Huh?? I’m not touching the torps. They probably cost more than the Perseus itself. Regardless, I shall simply kill the next group too. How many can there possibly be?

[crystal sleet]

I bet the perseus will have a similar reclaim time as the hammerhead, so youd just get waves after waves of perseus's just jumping in every 15-5 minutes depending if they stagger the launches

[cursive drum]

I can probably kill them faster than that. 16 X S7, 12 X S4, and 8 X S9 guns are no joke.

[crystal sleet]

True, but can your ammunition storage handle that many ships zerging?

[cursive drum]

I have Lasers so… probably? It has 4K SCU for bullets if I ever go off the deep end.

[crystal sleet]

Sounds like a battle of attrition lol

This all doesnt consider the fact that perseus's might try and ram you, so if there were ramming involved then id imagine some extra component damage to your turrets and stuff

[cursive drum]

Perseus? Ram Javelin?

Voluntarily getting closer?

Okkkk

[crystal sleet]

Well speculation depending on what happens to the perseus scm

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-no-bw-gif-18617047

Also

[cursive drum]

Oh, that’s right. I can just fly away.

[crystal sleet]

The battle is won, enemy javy has retreated 🦅

[cursive drum]

Ok but I outrange them. What if I just keep them in the zone where my S9s can shoot them but there S7s can shoot me.

[crystal sleet]

First ship has armour, the second ship has guns

[cursive drum]

I have more of both of those.

[crystal sleet]

UUURRAAAAAA

[crystal sleet]

Yeah the perseus will have a disadvantage with chasing ships, i wonder how theyll manage the perseus scm, or if theyll change how they want the ship is supposed to engage the enemy. Maybe theyll just take the easy way out and just increase ballistic ranges lmao

[cursive drum]

They should. Ballistics shouldn’t be range limited.

[crystal sleet]

You think theyll take the leap and make the perseus the first large ship with sniper cannons?

[cursive drum]

Sniper Cannons?

[grave canyon]

ballistic weapons being limited by scm vs nav modes is stupid tbh

if the reasoning is going fast requires more power so you gotta turn off weapons, what does that have to do with ballistics

percy and anything with ballistics should be able to just fire in nav

[cursive drum]

They said they were adding that.

[fluid plume]

I mean technically you still need power to fire ballistics just not as much as laser

[wooden trench]

At that point I would launch 4 torps and hope for an engine hit

[round zodiac]

:OOOO

[amber crest]

Oh my

[round zodiac]

holy grail of savings

[lone tundra]

Literally

[grave canyon]

yeah the difference of just striking a pin which your finger literally can do vs generating all that kinetic energy from the ships power resources

from a star citizen ship's power systems perspective that's actually nothing

[fluid matrix]

didnt they say in IAE show that the new Master Modes (called Operator Modes) will always allow weapons in Nav and SCM?
Its just a choice of being able to QT Boost in NAV mode or having shields in Combat mode

so power is only being moved from Quantum Drive to Shield Generator and back

[round zodiac]

NAV leaves shields on, but quantum mode turns them off. not sure baout weapons in NAV though

[cursive drum]

That's only 10% off is it not?

[round zodiac]

the idea is you grab a Carrack to Perseus WB CCU for $15. even though the Carrack and Perseus are $75 apart.
spend $15 on a $75 upgrade

[cursive drum]

That... is decent.

[round zodiac]

615 to 675 is a bit of a rough strip

besides the M2

it replaces an uncomfortable region of savings

[cursive drum]

My only savings are on Polaris and soon Redeemer. Redeemer is Via Paladin saving $40. Polaris... bought at $750 and it's not $925 saving me $175.

CCU chains are hard.

[wooden trench]

thats why I paid slightly more for a CCU'd greymarket one, not quite the biggest saving, but still only $310

[cursive drum]

No rank increases though.

[wooden trench]

rank increase?

[round zodiac]

I'm not likely to reach $1,000. im only half way and have a happy fleet

3 of my ships are referral reward base, and ht eother is the invictus Titan pack. also ive won 2 raffles. MSRP over $1000, spent $500

[wooden trench]

ohh concierge, yeah IDGAF, don't intend to buy more than what I have

[cursive drum]

Concierge, Space Marshal, etc.

[wooden trench]

wooo, a .jpg top hat.

it's fucking nothing

[round zodiac]

its a 3d model actually 😄

.fbx or somethin

much more valuable

/s

also gives access to the high roller store for spending more

[round zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/i-said-hop-in-hostage-mr-burns-held-hostage-waylon-smithers-gif-20390379

love when one show's line matches another and it flows well

[marsh zephyr]

now did anyone here grab the paladin?

[fluid plume]

I did

Melted reclaimer cause I never used it

I do wished it had cargo tho, it does seem to be extremely fat, msr levels of fatness

[marsh zephyr]

yeah, but I really like gunships

I think I might just own all the cool gunships instead of useful ships

[round zodiac]

1 friend on? scorpius.
2-3 friends on? Paladin
4+ friends on? Perseus

[cursive drum]

1 friend on? Javelin.
2-3 friends on? Javelin.
4+ friends on? Believe it or not, also Javelin.

[sage python]

Honestly i'd say 2-3 friends is prob gonna be enough for a perseus

1-2 turrets plus damage control is reasonable skeleton crew I wouldn't want more than 5 people on a perseus

[round zodiac]

2 for the manned, 1 for the remoteturret/engineering is likely. so 4

[marsh zephyr]

4 for the Perseus imho

Pilot 2 gunners and an engineer

[crystal sleet]

there isnt really a need to man the automated pdts in the first place unless if its a massize battle

[marsh zephyr]

You'll want that flex person for sure

[crystal sleet]

just incase

[marsh zephyr]

You have 2 guns and a pilot minimum

Leaving one person to fix the ship as you're brawling

[round zodiac]

there is remote turret that isnt PDC

[fluid matrix]

?

[steel thistle]

what are you confused about

[fluid matrix]

Does it still come with PDC then?

Or do you think they work like PDC when not remote controlled

[steel thistle]

no

[steel thistle]

yes

they’re just bladed remote turrets

think like if you could control the polaris PDCs from a seat or leave them automated

they’d probably be better manned but do fine unmanned

[wooden trench]

Instantly replacing those with lasers. No way I'm having my pdcs run out of ammo mid fight

[steel thistle]

they might be bespoke

i hope not

but i bet they are

[wooden trench]

Those look like apoc arms gatlings

[signal vortex]

they look like these

[nova citrus]

hello fellers

behold, the beginning of my perseus chain which I will take another 2 years to finish

right after I finish my medivac chain

the list rn is gladius, medivac, arrastra, perseus

[crystal sleet]

May the CCU chain gods show mercy and prosperity for your Perseus chain

[nova citrus]

gonna get it sub 300

hopefully without melting my f8c

[grave canyon]

honestly i'd rather have a $265 perseus than a $355 polaris

but after what they've done to the redeemer idk if i should buy a perseus granted they could just downsize the guns lol

[crystal sleet]

Its not like they can downsize the Perseus guns since S6s on the polaris cant even do any more damage than s6 attritions (lol)

they can only keep them s7 or upsize them to a nerfed s8

[grave canyon]

you are underestimating cig my friend

[crystal sleet]

yeah

[nova citrus]

oh? I never seen that before

the suit lockers have a cabinet on top of them

oopsie wrong channel

[amber crest]

It is big too

[sand hound]

Also the damage numbers aren’t coming from the gun either but rather the ammunition type you use since they said the Perseus bespoke guns will have different ammo types

[crystal sleet]

I know, im just saying that these are their options (unless if they just give up on the s7 guns all together)

[crystal sleet]

Thats until we get different shell types, i doubt theyll complete ammo types by the release of the perseus

Those are the guys who are salty about the polaris only getting upsized to s6 lol. Also i dont believe theyll actually downsize it anyway

I guess its just the matter of making the guns look like they belong on the perseus

[sand hound]

thats a critical part of the perseus so i doubt they would release the perseus without it

[crystal sleet]

True but they can just give it a single shell type for now and release the other types along the way

[cursive drum]

Downsized from S6 to S5. >Upgunned from S5 back to S6.
Nothing changed.

[crystal sleet]

Thats why its funny

[sand hound]

they will probably have 2 types for launch maybe more down the road

i think they only confirmed 2

[crystal sleet]

Either way, itll be pretty awesome

[sage python]

APFSDS and HEAT-MP shells for perseus

[wooden trench]

shieldbreaker rounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMCqOLjdM8c

[sage python]

YES

More dune / SC crossover please

[cursive drum]

Yes pls!

[crystal sleet]

id like to keep things simple and ask for APHE, pierce the armour and shred the internals

[crystal sleet]

non serious suggestion, how would we feel if they brought the superstructure forward a little and had another turret mounted behind the superstructure? It doesnt have to be another s7 turret, maybe a smaller s5 or even an s4 remote or manned turret

not sure what we'd do with the captains quarters, either make it smaller or somehow fit it somewhere else, but thats assuming we want that extra turret manned ofcourse

[fluid plume]

I’m hoping we get rsi frigate that is just bigger Perseus but with the triple barrel triple turret layout of the rsi cruiser maybe throw Polaris size hangar bay between the engines in the rear kinda like galaxy

[crystal sleet]

like a USS Cleveland sort of ship?

[cursive drum]

Polaris:

[cursive drum]

I can also agree with that.

[nova citrus]

Turn it to a medbed and im good

Sub capital ships and bigger drop ships should have a medbed imo

And capitals come with medbeds by default

[fluid plume]

Yea but Polaris sucks, it is wannabe military grade cap plus no where close to frigate status

[crystal sleet]

it feels basically like the starter ship of capital ships

[steel thistle]

essentially what it is

[cursive drum]

It is.

[steel thistle]

decent enough at everything but overall meh, can do all game loops to get you started

literally a starter for orgs

it’s the base to have before you get a better ship

sad reality

[fluid plume]

They’ll eventually come out with a corvette that’s just better

I mean doesn’t odyssey get same size hangar better cargo same shields and better turret loadout

[steel thistle]

yeah except it’s “tradeoff” will be something minor like “yeah this new one hasn’t got a brig or torpedos” 💀

“instead it’s got a size 15 dark matter cannon”

starts black holes in the enemies ship and rips them apart from inside

😭

yeah i don’t think i’ll need a brig with that

everyone’s getting sucked away

https://tenor.com/view/confederacy-of-independant-systems-star-wars-the-clone-wars-malevolence-thecisdidnothingwrong-gif-23076278

or it’s just this from star wars

massive emp cannon on the side

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-26236691

[errant warren]

yes.

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-smoking-laptop-laptop-on-fire-fire-laptop-computer-smoking-gif-27155816

[wooden trench]

Breaking news! Millitary corvette found larping as a corvette

[wooden trench]

I was thinking a perseus variant with twin/ single spinals would be pretty cool. I'm surprised sometimes that cig don't do more variants/modularity on their bigger ships to save dev time

[crystal sleet]

43 weeks and 6 days left

[crystal sleet]

43 weeks and 5 days left

[nova citrus]

a watched kettle never boils

[crystal sleet]

But eventually it will

[round zodiac]

a watched alpha never betas

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/kronii-ina-hololive-hololive-second-gen-head-bob-gif-25111052

[fluid plume]

So what we looking at here a cutlass or small corner piece of Perseus

[steel thistle]

hammerhead ‼️‼️‼️

[crystal sleet]

mmerad!!

43 weeks and 3 days left

[steel thistle]

for what

chrimsas?

[signal vortex]

cit con ?

[crystal sleet]

IAE (more specifically the start of november)

[signal vortex]

lowkey i think we see perseus by ILW

[steel thistle]

yeah no

[fluid plume]

I feel like we might see paladin by fleet week

[fluid matrix]

Would be a shame If they are that inefficient with pre built assets from Polaris that a Perseus size ship needs 10 month to build

[fluid plume]

I mean cig and plans don’t mix, see you bois at IAE for Perseus missing a room or 2

[crystal sleet]

Theres also bug fixing and polishing too

[fluid plume]

Crap well I guess I’ll see you bois in 2026 fleet week along with the announcement day of sq42 trailer set for December 31st 2027

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-rat-crying-rat-profound-sadness-fototeta-gif-27638214

[sand hound]

I was hoping to see perseus at ILW but then they said ironclad was already in development so if i had to guess it would probably be ironclad

[signal vortex]

but ironclad for def con and as a counter to it perseus for fleet week

[slim tartan]

wtf

holy necro my sincerest apologies

[crystal sleet]

I got $64 back with that ccu, enough for all tye new paints the perseus will get

[slim tartan]

i see -5$

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[crystal sleet]

43 weeks

[marsh zephyr]

If they downsize the Perseus guns I'm going to become a refundian

[signal vortex]

im gonna do a bad

[errant warren]

Dont give em any bad ideas

[fluid plume]

If they make a military corvette I pray it’s just a bigger Perseus with 3 turrets with battleship turret layout

[errant warren]

https://tenor.com/view/battleship-gif-26936399

[cursive drum]

Bottom coverage required!

[fluid plume]

Nah forget bottom coverage that’ll be its counter balance plus the rsi cruiser has battleship turret layout on top and no main guns on the bottom so it wouldn’t really be out of place

[sand hound]

if ur talking about the perseus it has a main gun on the bottom

so does the bengal which is the big boy

[fluid plume]

We not talking about Perseus or bengal

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/space-battleship-yamato-gif-26236691

42 weeks and 6 days

[round zodiac]

hope none of the Perseus devs are in this chat to see your countdown

[signal vortex]

every message adds one week

lol

[cursive drum]

Awful. Awful balance.

[grave canyon]

you and your just outright wrong opinions always make me laugh

you know a ship not having all around turret coverage does not make it a goddamn bad ship right

or were you not aware

[sand hound]

for a capital sized ship thats slow it is

[fluid plume]

Well don’t look at RSI cruiser you might be disappointed

[crystal sleet]

Even if they did it wouldnt really affect anything, the countdown is more of a way for me to make the wait seem shorter, and its not like they have to release it on a specific day.

[round zodiac]

yea, but id hate to be the team making it and seeing the weeks fly by as they try to get te model carved out

[crystal sleet]

ah true, its a double edged sword i guess

i wonder if theyll keep the console in the torpedo room

since there will definitely be some internal changes, what do we think the area between the torp room and cargo bay will turn into?

[nova citrus]

a medbay 💸

[crystal sleet]

i can see that

[crystal sleet]

maybe they can just make the mess hall smaller and give the reclaimed space to a small medbay

[lone tundra]

Isn't that where the additional escape pods are?

[crystal sleet]

oooh so thats where they were

i knew they were somewhere there, i somehow didnt realise they were in that space

[lone tundra]

https://imgur.com/bgmJuzx

[crystal sleet]

mmmmhh yyeeeaaa

[grave canyon]

if a t2 medbay gets added to the percy im immediately melting the polaris

and maybe if the cargo gets a tad bigger

not much just if we can fit ursa plus a couple scu

they probably wont but a man can dream

[crystal sleet]

i dont think itll be a t2, a t3 would be more appropriate for what the Perseus is, also yeah i do want a slightly bigger cargo bay for extra ammo crates

[sand hound]

you probably already can

[sand hound]

the ursa fits and looks like theres more room on the elevator

[crystal sleet]

theres also a bit more space bordering the cargo lift when raised

[sand hound]

thats even better theres more room on the edges

dunno if that will have the grids to snap cargo to tho

but they physically fit

i guess theres a walkway above it so it should be fine to fill in all the edges with cargo grids

[grave canyon]

from their saying it's an ursa or 50 scu

iirc

[crystal sleet]

well 50scu on thecargo lift

no telling how much more we can fit inside the actual free spaces

[nova citrus]

if we re fitting an ursa we wont have the scus for more ammo so I suspect the cargo just might get a little bit increase just to fit ursa + s7 gun ammos

or another scu grid insade the cargo bay so we can utilize the elevator for more scu or a vehicle

[errant warren]

is there a brig in percy?

[crystal sleet]

no pretty sure

[wooden trench]

Just the airlock

No brig mentioned

[sand hound]

im fine with no brig, but it should have a t3 med bed minimum

[round zodiac]

just park a nursa inside

[cursive drum]

It should have both. It’s a patrol ship, it’s probably going to have prisoners at some point.

[cursive drum]

No. Absolutely not.

No Nursa!

[sand hound]

you can still have prisoner pods in your cargo bay

the perseus doesnt have a snub and it cant dock with smaller or equal sized ships so it cant realistically do boarding

so it doesnt really make sense to have a brig since it will just blow up enemy ships instead of taking people captive

[round zodiac]

its a border patroller

kill on sight

[cursive drum]

No Nursa no way.

[sand hound]

the nursa fits with prisoner pods

[crystal sleet]

i dont really like the idea of a brig in a ship like the Perseus, cause its not like youre going out to police an area. Its not like you could maintain significant force with a pretty slow ship either

[fluid matrix]

with engineering can't you just use every room and airlock as a brig? Never saw why you would want dedicated cells that take away space. Would rather have more ammo storage.

[crystal sleet]

Well probably, but most likely there will be a need to access any particular room for engineering

[sand hound]

you can open the door by shooting them and they will be hackable in the future so its not really a long term solution

[crystal sleet]

Perseus

[errant warren]

Per
soos

[marsh zephyr]

yeah I dont see why you would need a brig

[round zodiac]

Why do we need a brig?
For the survivors
Survivors?

[crystal sleet]

Survivors? You mean target practice

[marsh zephyr]

honestly I have no idea why you would want survivors

AKA witnesses

[fluid matrix]

But jokes aside anyone really thinks brig will be more than just a gimmick?

Like npc crews will not come before post 1.0

Player crew will only use ist once or twice as a joke (like the Sea of thieves brig), you wont play again with a group that lockes you away for more than 10 minutes.

Random players will be fd up being locked away from playing and just log off/ sacrifice charakter.

NPC living bounty will just get frozen in these bounty boxes.

So I personally dont see the point.
Maby if you are into roleplay, but I aint.

[crystal sleet]

Rather than being for npcs, its more of a bounty hunting type of feature for ships, if not a roleplaying thing. It depends on how much CIG wants bounty gameplay to lean towards "capturing players alive", they might not even be considered permanent solutions to capturing players, instead requiring prisoner pods like in the Cutlass Blue.

Its kinda early to tell how and what exactly a brig is meant to do, it also depends on if CIG still wants to keep death of a spaceman or just want to go an Elite Dangerous style of respawning

CIG also thought of making it so that when a player is captured, they can log off whenever they want but are considered to be in combat still, meaning that their player character is still in the holding cell, either waiting for transfer to a prison or to be rescued by other players

The holding cell, if DOASM is nailed down, might be a way of performing interrogations or be used as a hostage/be transported temporarily between locations.

Too many variables due to concepted features and systems, when the relevant stuff have been decided and finalised, we will start to understand if brigs will be useful or not

[round zodiac]

Brig systems for live player capture would likely have a 'submit' button for the prisoner to begin prison game play.

Lots to design in it's respect

[crystal sleet]

well whatever path bounty hunting features and gameplays take, the Perseus doesnt benefir from taking prisoners

[steel thistle]

i take the prisoners in their own pods

[crystal sleet]

naughty criminals get jettisoned out of the cargo bay

[round zodiac]

great quote from SPAZ "any of those guys give you lip, just toss em out the airlock"

[broken elbow]

oh I need to follow this. I want my perseus

[timid wind]

so uhh... we thinkin' ILW for Percy release?

[errant warren]

https://imgur.com/bgmJuzx

[floral rapids]

I want to be optimistic but this game is kinda known for crushing optimism ruthlessly

IAE is a safer bet

[timid wind]

pyro made 2024 didnt it?

i’d say ilw possible iae pretty sure

[floral rapids]

Except they promised Pyro to release in 2020

[broken elbow]

I personally hope for IAE because that means I can get my last CCU bits for the Perseus during ILW eventually and that lets my fly a Polaris until IAE

[sand hound]

they said the ironclad was already in production so thats probably what is planned to release in ILW, they could still manage to release both ironclad and perseus since perseus is using polaris assets but those are both larger ships so I would shocked for them to release them together.

[steel sparrow]

huh

ILW is more military related no?

I thought UEE hated drake

so technically speaking, Perseus has higher chance

and Perseus was also already in production too......

[signal vortex]

It would be at defense con same place same time

[steel sparrow]

ah

I see

[fluid plume]

Perseus has maybe 10% chance of releasing at fleet week, confident we’ll see it at citizencon, ironclad at IAE

Have feeling the star lancer tac might appear at fleet week since it’s just slapping extra turrets to it lol

[signal vortex]

lot more than extra turrets and wit perseus being small with just 4 turrets and missiles and sharing assets with Polaris i think i will come out a ILW

[round zodiac]

correct. UEE does not include Drake at ILW, wihch is why the run their own DEFENSECON down the street the day after

[lapis kayak]

hello friends

[crystal sleet]

though the Perseus is said to be in production, we dont actually know how far it is in its production phase, the greybox/whitebox announcement kept its progress vague as well

[steel thistle]

it might come if it was one of the ones in greybox

but greybox is the largest stage

so if it’s right at the start of it there’s little chance but

i think we heard that announcement in november/december so

from december to may if it was in greybox at the time there’s a decent chance of them finishing it or at least doing what they did with the polaris at ILW

maybe

also they have said it shares a larger volume of assets with the polaris than the galaxy does which is why they’re doing it first

which will also make it much quicker through greybox and LD0 etc

so it is possible, just depends how far along it was. they never specified which stage it was at

[fluid plume]

Just praying Perseus doesnt suffer Polaris’s fate

[sand hound]

are you talking about the lack of detail in certain areas?

if you are I doubt the percy will since its a much smaller ship thats already getting polaris assets to re-use so they have more time to make everything look nice together since they dont necessarily need to make everything from scratch

[crystal sleet]

also talking of the over use of panel lining, as well as the main turret

[sand hound]

yeah hopefully they dont go crazy in exterior detailing

I like the subtle detailing it currently has, not too much but still clean

[crystal sleet]

they dont need to add much to the exterior imo, other than maybe a few more manuevering thrusters and what not

[sand hound]

yeah i hope it keeps most of the concept art look

[crystal sleet]

especially this

i swear theyll say something like "it didnt fit the vision" or "the way we wanted the turret to work didnt work with the concept design"

[signal vortex]

if my turret dont look like a ship ima be mad

[crystal sleet]

The s6 turret on the polaris looks so harmless compared to this

[sand hound]

thats because those are size 7

i do want those turrets to change though

i would like them to have similar turrets to the jav ones with a smaller remote turret above also controlled by the gunner

but thats alot of copium

[steel sparrow]

the question is how are they going to implement the rover by and bottom turret at the same time

from the concept arts I see it's either rover bay or turret

and the interior distribution according the brochure it's not a bay but a ramp that opens from god-knows-where.

[crystal sleet]

I was talking visually, the flat gun bays and the aurora cockpit for a gunners canopy

[crystal sleet]

Pretty sure the rover bay was scrapped because of that

[steel sparrow]

I hope it tuns into the Polari's ramp

opens from the side and doesn't block the gun

[crystal sleet]

Though that be pretty aight, i think they want to reserve the free space opposite the docking collar for an ammo replenishment bay

[steel sparrow]

If this is true Imma melt my Nursa

[sand hound]

wdym

the bottom turret is on the rear back

the cargo bay that fits vehicles is in the front

[steel sparrow]

I don't see the bottom turret in this concept art

(I might be blind)

[sand hound]

it has the numbers "02" painted on it

the engine pylons cover it slightly so you dont see the actual barrels of the turret just the back portion. Its currently facing the back of the ship since its a rear turret

[signal vortex]

its facing forward

[sand hound]

oh u right

heres a better picture

[steel sparrow]

Thanks for the clarification

I was a bit concerned back there

[steel thistle]

the rover only blocks its forward arc for a short time, and if you are landed i doubt you’re using that bottom turret to kill stuff anyway i don’t see the problem

[crystal sleet]

maybe instead of a rover bay, they could put a medbay there instead

[steel sparrow]

I feel like a rover bay would be more useful

[crystal sleet]

yeah, id also like to have cargo and a rover

[fluid plume]

Just put nursa in it boom you get your rover and medbay

Tbh what I would personally love a Perseus inspired corvette, like they take Perseus and blow it up to size of Polaris, give it battleship turret layout like triple size 7, two turrets front of bridge one behind or dual barrel size 8 triple turrets, then slap a snub bay between the engines galaxy style, and give it cargo evaluator that can hold two nova tanks, has strong top but weak underbelly like the bengal cruiser, if triple barrel size 7 is chosen then slap a size 7 rail gun to the nose

[steel sparrow]

I think there's one battleship variant of Bangle in the SQ42 part1

[crystal sleet]

too big and overrated (still pretty cool), need us a cool hero ship thats 200m long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDsQFUwhfqA&t=22s

[steel sparrow]

Just give us the Retribution at this point ......

[steel sparrow]

those S7 on the Perseus better sound mean cause the S6 on polaris absolutly sucked.

[crystal sleet]

the s6 just felt like scaled up behring c788 cannons, none of the bespoke feel even

they really shouldve made teh s6's non bespoke

maybe when the Perseus drops and CIG feels like their bespoke waepons testing is done, theyll let teh polaris equip any s6 guns

[fluid plume]

As far as we know there is no battleship variant of bengal by the time of sq42 battleships were being phased out due to change in doctrine however there are a few still in service but I don’t think they are RSI cause RSI is building ships to fit this new doctrine meaning RSI probably didn’t build battleships and would most likely be an aegis ship since messers were probably more inlined with battleship type doctrine

[crystal sleet]

though theyre basically battleships, theyre classed as cruisers

iirc

[fluid plume]

Yea plus the BB designation is tied to javelins for some reason in same trailer which most likely means javelin model is just a placeholder they don’t want us to see the actual battleships yet

[crystal sleet]

battleships will probably be bengal-like ships with a shit ton of super firing turrets or sumn

bengal like in appearance

[fluid plume]

They could retcon the entire battleship being phased out (which then allow kitbashed bengal battleship) as there are two cruisers seen one with triple barrel and one with dual barrel which if I was to make a guess the dual barrel is the battleship both use same turret so bigger gun means take up more space in turret meaning less barrel aka possible battleship or heavy cruiser/battle cruiser, or dual barrel could just be an old dev model that they forgot to replace with the triple barrel tbh I don’t even think the devs know, so much sq42 lore is hidden or hasn’t been updated for what has been revealed so far or if anything has been retcon behind the scenes

[crystal sleet]

i hope the battleships get laser or particle beam cannons, its gonna look like a Space Battleship Yamato game

https://tenor.com/view/spacebattleshipyamato-openfire-warp-speed-gif-23038849

[wooden trench]

If you look at the scorpius rear turret it's on a rail when underslung, I'd assume something similar to that, it slides on a rail between the engines when not in use

[steel sparrow]

they better sound katoosh kasoosh

[ebon salmon]

I hope the Perseus launches with refillable ammo and maybe even different types of ammo. Don't want to have to leave the fight and rearm after a minute or so of shooting like the Polaris main turret

[steel sparrow]

Real. I hope Perseus at least have flak and AP rounds

[crystal sleet]

maybe the starfarer will become even more useful by then, both ammo and fuel replenishment mid combat

[crystal sleet]

we could also get distortion and incendiary rounds too

[crystal sleet]

Puwrsthiuos

[ebon salmon]

I was hoping for some sort of internal system where you feed a scu box into the wall to replenish your ammo, Like a reverse vulture. Adds gameplay, choice, preparedness as a gameloop like how they are so fond of, and let's us stay in fights longer

[crystal sleet]

it is likely that the unused side opposite of the docking collar will be use to house the loading system, if not towards the front of the ship in the cargo bay

there is a lot of space there, as well as it being directly opposite of the docking collar, so that if it is required, allowing for cargo to enter through the docking collar from one side, and ammo to be reloaded on the other

[fluid plume]

The turret is tucked between the engines while the rover bay is more centered

[crystal sleet]

pe

[round zodiac]

they certainly overlooks physical rearming in the old design flow. one of the coolest parts of Space Engineers for fighters is fitting and securing the conveyors

[sand hound]

if you look at the internals of the strlancer tac you can see they are playing with the idea of that

has the belt on the left feeding the turret

[crystal sleet]

I wonder how much ammo we can load at a time, theyre probably going to be pretty big boxes if we are to reload the magazines in a good time frame

Especially for the perseus, though id imagine thered be a maxlift storage rack somewhere nearby the perseus internal reloader

[sand hound]

that most likely wont be a feature the perseus releases with

im going assume manually reloading ship weapons internally is going to be a post 1.0 feature

[crystal sleet]

the recent buffs to the Ares inferno and ion s7 guns makes me think that theyre getting ready for the Perseus

[crystal sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqoxBJl6dY&pp=ygUOZ2FsYWN0aWMgcGlsb3Q%3D

Perseus ship parade

[crystal sleet]

HER

[round zodiac]

MY LOVE I CAME TO SHARE IT TOO

[wooden trench]

Slightly more context for others

Shown in the background of the new pulse variant and racing suit

[round zodiac]

techncially, the Perseus is in the server banner

[crystal sleet]

PERSEUS BANNER YEEAAAHHH

[steel thistle]

they had some 10x better ones

[steel thistle]

OMG SHES COMING

IM COMING

[foggy beacon]

oh damn

didn't even realize that

[round zodiac]

every ISC hides secrets like that

[grave canyon]

same

[steel thistle]

i’m gonna say may is very possible for release

[crystal sleet]

not guaranteed, but very likely

[fluid plume]

Would be surprise if it comes during fleet week

Would have expected citizencon

[crystal sleet]

i feel like citcon will be when they release the Pioneer or BLD since either can be released either then or IAE

ironclad is DefenseCon and Tac/Perseus for ILW, so a 50/50 chance for ILW for Perseus assuming its all done and ready

we will have to wait till its ILW PTU

[fluid plume]

Pioneer is 100% next year more work required then Polaris

Plus we know bld will come before pioneer as they intend to have building in before pioneer as they have said building is not tied to pioneer whether that means they intend building to come out before pioneer or pioneer will come out before building but either way 100% cig probably doesn’t even know

[round zodiac]

i suspect pioneer will release with a lineup of XL buildings later. with only S/M/L buildings to start

[crystal sleet]

no comment

[steel sparrow]

S6

[crystal sleet]

more specifically the turret itself, that aurora canopy...

https://tenor.com/view/orange-fish-spognebob-phone-gif-3064144843174203984

please

[steel sparrow]

I think if the S7 canopy uses display window like the Prowler’s would be quite cool.

[wooden trench]

I think that should remain an espeia thing, but at the same time, a proper Esperia Multicrew gunship would be sick, like an Esperia Corsair equivalent

[crystal sleet]

theres still the nova tank with its "see thu" canopy

if you want a solid armour panel for the turrets, just make it look like the 5in guns ww2 us ships had

something like this

[steel sparrow]

I agree. The original design for the Perseus's turret is minimalistic and elegant.

[steel sparrow]

I wonder would they straight out copy the S7 turret on the Javelin and then remove the S3s

[sand hound]

there are no XL buildings

I mean I guess there could be but from the sound of their presentation on basebuilding it seems like the XL drones are just better at building everything faster and the only exclusive thing they can build is the supply dock which is what you need for making space station

so maybe building sizes will be xs->L and only XL is supply dock

[sand hound]

mirai fury mx also has the camera system on blast shields

[steel sparrow]

mirai also messes with alien tech so...

[fluid plume]

Acting like tier 0 ain’t just gonna be a shack with a door that bugs permanently closed and camp fire that refuses to light lol

[sand hound]

the alien tech isnt cameras....

the storm has cameras

[sand hound]

i doubt Tier 0 will have any XL stuff

[crystal sleet]

xl gives us hangar ccrafters ddont they?

[steel thistle]

smth like that

maybe small hangars available from small stuff

large from large stuff like galaxy

idk

[crystal sleet]

i think the hangar crafter was only available as xl for ground basese

[steel thistle]

idk lemme ask chris rq

he said what are you doing in my house

[sand hound]

the only confirmed building thats XL is the supply dock that makes space stations

or at least thats what i understood but i could be wrong

[crystal sleet]

oh wait, then yeah the hangar crafter would be large

[mighty owl]

Oh this

[steel thistle]

could i put 2 larges together to fit a pegasus

[sand hound]

😂

how many large hangars to fit the retribution

[signal vortex]

like 14

[steel thistle]

a few

[foggy beacon]

uhhhh

iirc XL hangers are nearly 400 meter long

and Large hanger are around 150-200

so yeah, 14 is a pretty close number

but that's only the length, not the width

and height

[steel thistle]

nerd react this user

rn

[crystal sleet]

Wort

[celest kite]

Anyone else thinking about using the Perseus as their daily driver?? I mean I know 50 scu isn’t a lot but it’s still pretty good

[vast lagoon]

I would use my perseus for running ERTs as that seems to be the best role for it

Some space for cargo if something nice is found, plus the fun of using big dakka guns for the gunners

[agile tinsel]

ya'll think they'll sell perseus at the current price before it hits release in may?

was thinking of upgrading to it right before price increase

[vast lagoon]

It would really depend on progress done for it

They upped the polaris' price close to release

[agile tinsel]

rip, guess I gotta hope then

[vast lagoon]

If they talk about it at all in may then I would imagine a price hike

It'd be neat if they kept it at the HH price since their fleet doctrine are opposites, but Perseus, if built as intended from QnA stuff, could be pricier

Since ammo swapping and all that

[agile tinsel]

I'll have to see around april lol

[crystal sleet]

itll be my mobile base with a fury/nursa in the hold

[celest kite]

That’s what I was thinking too! It’s the best aggressive looking ship! I love the design, inspired by sharks and the guns and stuff on it! Tbh a med bed would be nice but if I die, I’m going down with my ship

[fluid plume]

Just slap a nursa in cargo bay and boom you now have medbed aboard

[fluid plume]

Not gonna happen every ship goes up in price when it enters production cause cig is really really bad at planning and knowing what they are doing

[vast lagoon]

I agree. If anything if the HH gets an update in the future I could see the price of it rising to match whatever the Perseus is in the future

[crystal sleet]

If theres ever rework to the HH, i bet theyll add a module to that gap in the middle

[steel thistle]

i would’ve got an upgrade for that at IAE

if it releases in may you’re finished if you’re lucky it won’t and you can get an upgrade to hold onto until it’s release

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceship-lego-space-astronaut-excited-gif-15000835

[crystal sleet]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPNxoIiKY7s

ITS HAPPENING

too early to know still but HOLY SHIT

THEY MIGHT UPSIZE THE S3 TO S4!!!

4 S1 PDTs!!!

@nocturne raft

[nocturne raft]

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gif-17172043193563962893

[nocturne raft]

watching it now to see what this is about

fucking what

4 PDCs?????

[crystal sleet]

FUCKING INSANE

[nocturne raft]

nah no fucking way thats going live

[crystal sleet]

those s1 ones i think

[nocturne raft]

2 MAYBE cos its a military vessel, but 4 no shot

[nocturne raft]

dual s4 remote turrets tho, thats tasty

[crystal sleet]

4x size 1 pdc
2x dual s4 remote

[nocturne raft]

considering that upgrade to s4 turrets, id expect those to be the way to fight back against fighters

[crystal sleet]

War is changing

[nocturne raft]

and the pdcs be the bare minimum to shoot down torps

[crystal sleet]

seperate missile defense with fighter defense

[nocturne raft]

it was always going to be that. i never subscribed to the idea that the remote turrets were pdcs

they were always just remote turrets that came with blades by default

[crystal sleet]

that just means that the remote turrets wont be bladed, or atleast not commited to

[nocturne raft]

but the fact a military non capital non luxury ship might get pdcs is pretty wild

[crystal sleet]

blades are coming after perseus

[nocturne raft]

yeh ofc. thats my guess. theyll just keep the turrets in as normal remote turrets as they were going to be, the perseus just wont come with free blades

[crystal sleet]

i can live with that, its already a godsend the Perseus gest automated pdcs anyway

[nocturne raft]

if we get any pdcs thats going to be fucking disgusting

[crystal sleet]

so i suppose the minimum crew req just grew to 4 or 5

basically the full crew req

[nocturne raft]

without blades assuming u want both remotes covered yeah

pilot , 2x s7 gunners, 2x s4 gunners, engineer

for proper efficiency

[crystal sleet]

i bet engineering wont be out till later this year, so its what we think we need to crew minus 1

[nocturne raft]

i wouldnt be surprised if we get engineering around 4.1

but either way, yeah if u want all turrets manned ull need 4 + pilot

[crystal sleet]

only time will tell, or unless if they already completed blades somehow

[nocturne raft]

well, i think the ai they developed for pdcs was the groundwork for the most part

[crystal sleet]

i have a feeling that CIG has to figure out how to switch from blade control to player control consistently without something breaking

that could be the main blocker for ship blades

[nocturne raft]

possible

i imagine itll either end up something like u have to unplug and store the blades

or u can just power off the blades somehow

[crystal sleet]

maybe, like a toggle on the remote gunners terminal

[nocturne raft]

something like that yeah

[crystal sleet]

cause youd just have to press a switch on the terminal to swap to blade control, then just walk away

[nocturne raft]

make it a switch on the terminal without needing to "go into" the turret

interaction mode > look at switch > flip > sorted

[crystal sleet]

if thats the case, hopefully the pilot or commanding officer can manually control the PDC states too

[nocturne raft]

like how u can turn the QED on and off for the guardian qi

id guess the pilot would control pdcs

makes sense to be on the pilot hud

[crystal sleet]

that would make the Perseus almost soloable, so i think theyll give the controls to someone else

[nocturne raft]

all comes down to how blades are implemented. we know itll drain power cos u have to power the ships cpu

question will be how much power will that cost. cos more power u put into blades the less power ull have on shields, weapons and engines

cos in theory, ull be able to blade the s7 turrets as well

but having both s7 turrets and both s4 turrets bladed would be a huge trade off

cant get over that. no shot itll have 4 pdcs, even at s1. i mean if theyre enough to take down missiles and most torps, and theyre placed so they dont overlap, it shouldnt be a problem i guess

[celest kite]

🫡🫡❤️ Fucking YESSS!!!

[vast lagoon]

My favorite ship just got better let's gooooooo

[steel sparrow]

would ballistic weapon be affected tho? I mostly lower my energy when it comes to ballistic weapon e.g. Ares Inferno......

[crystal sleet]

considering that ballistic weapons are basically OFF and ON, it just needs 1 pip for power (from current mechanics and assuming we dont care much about pdc capacitors), so itll free up so much power for other stuff

[steel sparrow]

real

[humble anvil]

My people

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-roomba-gif-21142125

[steel sparrow]

Perseus 2955 ILW?

[crystal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-dudul-gura-hololive-gif-23377193

[broken elbow]

either that or IAE.

I kinda hope for IAE so I get a polaris til november, when I finish my CCU at ILW

[quiet slate]

Poke

[crystal sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121113616926638131/1343518361937772635/perseus.gif

[summer fulcrum]

whutttt did i forget this existed

[runic umbra]

This is going to be the "biggest" ship I'll ever own. Just missing a few more links in the CCU chain.

[humble anvil]

its going to go up in price too, atleast to 750$ so the "savings" will be more

but considering the potential changes, and new ship tax. If they add PDC's. easily 800$

sec

[runic umbra]

Yeap! End of the chain is locked in. Just was holding out for a 1 or 2 more potential warbond ccus if they come up this year at all.

[humble anvil]

unf i was gone from the game for a long time, so i only just started building lol. but im locked in

as well

planning to use the 400$ worth of store credit i have

[runic umbra]

Nice

If I'm lucky, I'll save a little more. But really just need to get some of the remaining holes and call it done.

[humble anvil]

im missing alot of ccu holes lol.

so i fixed a hole as i dont think that ccu will show up anytime soon (reliant mako)

ILW should be able to finish it

but ironclads also maybe coming out and they're going to go up

[fluid plume]

Dang Perseus really is hard counter to Polaris if it gets those 4 pdc, Polaris gimmick torps truly will be useless and those 4 size 7 will rip Polaris apart, easy disable that front turret and Polaris loses a chunk of its dps

[steel thistle]

fire

they mustve seen my spectrum post

[steel thistle]

it kinda needs them bro

its remote turret arcs are dogshit

1 gladiator you prolly losing 😭

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/61894/thread/perseus-pdt-locations

wonder where theyll put these 4 pdcs

[steel thistle]

hopefully the back 2 yellows and reds

[runic umbra]

I also have that CCU basically done. 10 bucks outstanding.... Still hoping for a Gladius warbond CCU again.... A MAN CAN DREAM

[humble anvil]

good savings

[nocturne raft]

maybe it does, but considering how theyve been going about what gets pdcs, its certainly an anomaly

[steel thistle]

yeah i’m surprised they’re making a combat ship competent in its role for once

but time will tell

could have 6 power pips and make the PDCs useless

lol

[humble anvil]

Gotta make it to ILW first xd

Pray it shows up

[nocturne raft]

very possible. tbh the real challenge the perseus is going to have is power management. especially as we dont know how much the blades on the turrets will take up, or the size of the cpu

[steel thistle]

yeah

polaris jr 😭🙏🏻

[steel sparrow]

according to imadeitup.com, the Perseus will come this ILW

[sand hound]

im slightly concerned ab the 2x s3 shields for something thats supposed to be fighting large ships but i guess thats where the "heavy" armor comes into play. Also confused on the remote turrets, iirc the 2 remote turrets the percy currently has are PDT's that have the option to be remotely controlled rather than AI controlled but they are AI controlled by default. So does that mean we are getting a total of 4 PDT's that can also be manually controlled or are we getting PDT's and then seperate remote turrets? the number of remote turrets matching the manned turrets has me hopeful its getting similar turret design to javalin where the main guns are manned but theres a remote turret above it controlled by the same person.

[nocturne raft]

considering its meant to be heavily armoured, i wouldnt worry about the shields too much

gonna be face tanking most stuff anyway

also the remote turrets are not pdcs

never were, never will be

theyre just dual s4 remote turrets thatll come stock with ai blades

[celest kite]

If we could get a full SCL or update on the Perseus, I’d be soo happy!

[humble anvil]

Delicious... Simply delicious

[crystal sleet]

Eventually, maybe a week or two before the Perseus Patch

[sand hound]

the remote turrets were pdcs

always has been, thats why they come with ai blades stock

[nocturne raft]

based on the q&a they were never pdcs

[sand hound]

the term pdc wasnt used

[nocturne raft]

pdcs dont use ai blades

[sand hound]

back when percy was concepted

pdcs do use ai blades

[nocturne raft]

no they dont

[lone tundra]

If you want to be technical, the whole ship is designed for point defense

[sand hound]

yeah but their use of point defense in that context is misleading

its not point defence againsts missiles its point defense against large ships

[lone tundra]

Same definition, though

[sand hound]

you are right however im arguing that the remote turrets are in actuality PDT's such as the ones on the polaris and your quoting the term being used for describing the ship as a whole acting as a turret against other large ships

point defence turrets were just called remote turrets that come with blades pre-installed

[lone tundra]

Yep, but CIG's definition of that specific term has changed multiple times over the years now

They do function as PDCs though, by default

[sand hound]

fair

[reef wind]

[steel thistle]

they never specifically said the bladed turrets can target missiles

but this was before they knew pdcs were going to be a thing

so they might

or if they give the percy PDCs they turrets might only go for ships

or they’ll let the player choose maybe with engineering

[cursive drum]

"PD guns."

[humble anvil]

Hope the persy gets em.

[steel thistle]

point defence could be just from fighters, the blades running them might not target missiles

[humble anvil]

Hope

[cursive drum]

That’s not point defence. PD is the act of hard killing missiles.

[floral rapids]

My Perseus will hard kill missiles with its thiccc armor 😎

[cursive drum]

My S12 torpedos will hard kill you.

[celest kite]

What does this mean?

[humble anvil]

Cope perseus got work removed meaning its done

or close to it

[celest kite]

Oh nice!

[floral rapids]

I can’t tell if you’re trying to act tough or joking 😅

[cursive drum]

Joking.

A Single S12 Torpedo will bankrupt me. I am uninstalling them on first spawn.

[floral rapids]

A single S12 torpedo could feed your family for many moons & send your kids to college

[cursive drum]

It could supply an entire family for an eternity.

[steel thistle]

are phalanx on navy ships point defence

?

they shoot aircraft or small boats

[cursive drum]

Yes. Since when?

[steel thistle]

wym since when

[cursive drum]

This is not a Phalanx.

[steel thistle]

?

[cursive drum]

The thing that takes out small boats and small planes. Although for planes, they primarily use SM missiles.

[steel thistle]

phalanx definitely shoots down drones i seen a video of it doing so

[lone tundra]

They did, btw
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/engineering/16185-The-Shipyard-Turrets

[cursive drum]

"Kamikaze Drones" Are just missiles.

Contains explosives.
Guided.
It's just a missile.

[steel thistle]

if it can shoot a drone it can shoot a plane

[cursive drum]

Missile.

[steel thistle]

mb i missed the source from 2017

[cursive drum]

Missiles travel toward the ship and attack at point blank range. Planes won't get within 100 miles.

[steel thistle]

okay but it could still shoot a plane if it was in range

same way the PDS works on the polaris

[cursive drum]

Yes. But planes will never come in range so realistically, no it can't.

[steel thistle]

yes but ships will never come in range of the polaris PDS but it still can

it might be a death wish coming closer than 2.2k to a polaris

or any ship with lots of turrets on really

like the HH

[cursive drum]

They often do. I have killed perhaps a dozen enemies yesterday alone and the same on Monday.

[steel thistle]

i wouldn’t fly my fighter in there

[cursive drum]

Nobody is crewing those.

[cursive drum]

The PDCs do very little damage.

[steel thistle]

but it still can shoot them

[steel thistle]

im referring to the manned turrets

you would not want to get close to those

[cursive drum]

I killed a Talon yesterday.

[lone tundra]

Depends on which ones.... I think a Phalanx would probably do more

[cursive drum]

The S3s do very little damage. Litterally less than a Hornet. The S4s... also do not very much.

[cursive drum]

Phalanx when?

[steel thistle]

it’s got quad size 4s or 5s all over it hasn’t it?

[cursive drum]

2 Quad S4s and 3 Quad S3s.

And the Dual S6.

A hornet is just straight up better in every way.

[steel thistle]

it’s also got 7 size 1s

[lone tundra]

I just hope the Javelin gets those, but I doubt it will. Should still have flak though.

[cursive drum]

They have a 1KM Range.

[steel thistle]

2.1?

[cursive drum]

It does. I don't have the pic on me but check through that video. There is an image of the Javelins Underside from the left and it nearly (12??) Visible. That makes me assume it will have nearly 50!

[cursive drum]

The PDCS only get 1??

[steel thistle]

a hornet is better than 1 of the turrets but not when more than that is crewed, 4 size 4s a hornet doesn’t even have that

[cursive drum]

Yes it does? The MK2A and Super both get 4 S4s and 2 S3s when fully equipped.

[steel thistle]

it’s 4 size 3s and 2 size 4s

the ball and nose turrets are size 3s

the wings are the only s4 mounts

??????????

bro just posting random shi 😭🙏🏻

[cursive drum]

Wait, what?

[cursive drum]

It was supposed to be this.

But yea, 4 S4 and 2 S3.

[steel thistle]

not 1k PDC range

[steel thistle]

those “size 4s” are weaker than all the actual size 4 weapons so

[humble anvil]

good call for them to up perseus turrets to 2x S4.

[cursive drum]

Wait, what??

[cursive drum]

Size 4-. But closer to S4 then S3.

[cursive drum]

Agreed.

[steel thistle]

size 3.5

and you might as well just run lasers

regular SH turret for extra missiles

because realistically

every single ship has a 50% (most are actually more than 50%) ballistic damage reduction on the hull
And shields do a 30% reduction on ballistic damage too

So when you shoot a ship that has shields with ballistics:

1. The shields reduce the damage by 30% (taking you down to 70% of the damage)
2. The hull then also reduces this by 50% (taking you down to 35% of the damage that the number on erkul claims that it does)

[cursive drum]

I don't have the regular turret. I have the F7A MK2.

[steel thistle]

even that works fine with lasers

[cursive drum]

Ok but shield penetrating damage is good.

[cursive drum]

But S3s and the Hornets have bad capacitors.

Same as the Polaris.

[steel thistle]

bad ammo capacity for ballistics too

[cursive drum]

2000 Shots isn't that bad.

[steel thistle]

anyways that doesn’t matter, this is still the case as your second pair of size 4s are still atrocious and not real size 4s

size 3+ or 3.5 maybe

just because it’s s4 doesn’t make it good at all

[steel thistle]

it is if you’re fighting more than 3 ships

[cursive drum]

Of what size?

[steel thistle]

super hornet 2s

just small-medium size

[cursive drum]

I thought they were quite decent.

I dunno, maybe that's just me.

I still wonder why the new hornet has 1 more shield though.

[cursive drum]

It will be considered during future purchases...

[cursive drum]

Already bought.

(It's gonna get Polarised.)

[steel thistle]

to sell it

[cursive drum]

Sadge.

[humble anvil]

THIS IS WEIRD

THIS IS WEIRDDDD

WHATS WEIRD?

I guess they're really that big

sec

no

thats so weird

[cursive drum]

PDCs or the guns got thinner.

[cursive drum]

Ballistic PDCs?

[humble anvil]

big gun here

but thennn

[cursive drum]

Ballistic PDCs?

[humble anvil]

the turret is in the back middle, and the other is top back right?

[cursive drum]

Yes?

[humble anvil]

but then we got substantially smaller fire from big gun location

look like big gun discharge

[cursive drum]

They didn't turn the big guns into Gatlings did they?

[humble anvil]

okay so the top are the big guns, they're just that big lol looked weird to me. better see them here.

[cursive drum]

They look very thin.

[humble anvil]

distance prob

[cursive drum]

Where are my big guns??

[steel sparrow]

where did u get this?

[humble anvil]

idk news in discord

[humble anvil]

im trying so hard to find any possible pdc behavior lol

theres this little spot but its hard to tell

[reef wind]

Probably see more in later promo videos or ISC's

Right now they're teasing hard which means it's most likely 70% or more completed. Pdc's will likely be shown off in either a trailer or knowing Jared, in a sneak peek

[steel sparrow]

They only teased once in ISC?

[cursive drum]

When is the next ISC?

[reef wind]

Got teased twice. Though last one was a few months back if I remember correctly.

[cursive drum]

Where?

[humble anvil]

Tomorrow is

next ISC

[reef wind]

Not sure but should be fairly soon.

[humble anvil]

They talk about Supply or die event

[reef wind]

Ooo

[reef wind]

At the gym rn but I'll go back and look when I'm back home.

I could be trippin

I know a few ships got subtly teased recently but I'm excited for the perseus to be near complete

[cursive drum]

What ships?

[reef wind]

Kraken had one or two cameos, legionnaire showed up in a hangar in the castra teaser, perseus in the recent cameo and the guardian had a few right before it dropped. Though I think the legionnaire got pushed back so we didn't see it again yet.

[cursive drum]

Why has Legionnaire been pushed back??

[reef wind]

Beats me. I ain't cig

[steel sparrow]

Imma edge until ISC and see if Perseus get teased

[cursive drum]

Krakens main cameos were about go get blown up by the Scorpius duo.

[reef wind]

True but we also got the one in the new levski vid

Makes me excited for the aircraft carrier

[cursive drum]

Where?

[reef wind]

You can find it raising out of the hole with one or two ships nearby.

[cursive drum]

Where is Levski?

This doesn't even look half done. It's missing a giant chunk!

[reef wind]

They keep teasing me with it and I want it lol

[wooden trench]

Hacking, it's meant to be able to hack open airlock to board

[cursive drum]

Yes. And?

[wooden trench]

Well hacking doesn't exist yet and they've said that they don't want to add ships until their systems are ready