Kraken Completely-Legal Fan Club

[marsh mantle]

I assume the train would have an area for an operator

[stoic barn]

That'd be nice

But also a button to call it, and send it

[marsh mantle]

I think it will be like an elevator

You get on it and go

[marsh mantle]

And also like that

[stoic barn]

Yeah, kraken will take a long time

Although they've been teasing us a bit too much with kraken

so we might possibly be looking at 2028?

or 2027 at bare minimum

[marsh mantle]

I think theres a decent chance at a 2026 release, the reason i think that is because ironclad will be out next year, they have been teasing the kraken too much and also because i havent played star citizen long enough to actually get let down by it

The exterior looks mostly complete as well

[stoic barn]

It’s not on the developer tracker

Which means they haven’t probably even started on developing the ship itself

Just the looksies😅

I think 2026 would be THE BEST thing ever

But realistically, and not to get dissappointed, I’d say 2027 at least

Also they said few new surprises at the iae, any idea what that’s all about?

[marsh mantle]

i'd say exteior is a decent chunk of the work

[marsh mantle]

as in surprise ships?

[stoic barn]

That we don’t know of? Maybe idris

That’d be sick

[marsh mantle]

to paraphrase citizencon:

"This is a look at some, emphasis on some of the vehicles that we are working on in the next 12 months"

there will be definitely surprises

[stoic barn]

Guess we’ll see

[marsh mantle]

2025 would not be a bad time to drop it, as now it has the polaris as its equal

[stoic barn]

I don’t think they’re gonna mention kraken, but that’d be best case scenario for me

[marsh mantle]

oh i am an idiot you said iae not 2025

i read it as "also they said a few new surprises on 2025" 💀

[stoic barn]

Yeah lemme grab pic

[marsh mantle]

i believe they did say there are still some gaps of information in the tracker

[stoic barn]

Bottom

[marsh mantle]

oh right that

[stoic barn]

No idea what that’s about

[marsh mantle]

my money is on liberator

[stoic barn]

Possibly

[marsh mantle]

haha just kidding i wont have any after november 28th

[stoic barn]

[marsh mantle]

they did promise liberator would come with pyro a while ago

[stoic barn]

Hmm

[marsh mantle]

and its not a very complex ship, its just some pads and an automated turret

and a fairly simple interior

[stoic barn]

That’d be the lighter version of kraken

With repair bay right?

[marsh mantle]

Im not sure if liberator has repair capabilities

Im pretty sure its only rearm and refuel

[stoic barn]

Could be

We got one in org

We’ll see

[marsh mantle]

I wouldnt complain if it could repair though

[stoic barn]

Nope, would make it more attractive

And if it does, it should be slightly faster than kraken

[marsh mantle]

From what i can understand its meant to be more of a fighter ferry

[stoic barn]

Ah

[marsh mantle]

The turrets are mainly defensive, unlike the kraken

Also do you think the kraken will get point defenses?

[stoic barn]

What are those?

[quartz torrent]

Kraken would honestly need pdc's considering the target it is

[stoic barn]

What are point defences😄

[marsh mantle]

They are the small automated turrets that shoot fighters that get too close and missilrs

They dont need blades they just work

[quartz torrent]

Torp magnet

[stoic barn]

There’s 4 remote turrets

Size 5

[marsh mantle]

Point defenses are turrets that cant be manned

Or controlled by a person

[stoic barn]

Oh

Interior or exterior

[marsh mantle]

They are purely defensive turrets meant for shooting down torpedoes

Exterior

[stoic barn]

Hope so

I know polaris will have em

[marsh mantle]

Im thinking if the polaris got a bunch of them last minute

Kraken will too

[stoic barn]

Probably, but it’s drake so idk

[marsh mantle]

Knowing drake it will probably be either like 2 massive point defense turrets

Or like a million size 2 point defenses

[stoic barn]

As long as it works

[marsh mantle]

It always does, because its drake interplanetary™️

[stoic barn]

Made by creative minds, no restrictions lol

[quartz torrent]

Drake is cheaper parts and a higher utility with a focus on firepower. Doesn't always mean they skimp out, just means they market to a fleet with a budget

[stoic barn]

It won’t have escape pods though

Be wary of that

[marsh mantle]

It will

[stoic barn]

I heard it wont

[marsh mantle]

They walked back the statement of it not having them

They said they will think avout it

[stoic barn]

Hmm, that was my only downside of the ship

[marsh mantle]

If not theres always the dragonfly bay

[quartz torrent]

If I remember right, they said they may give bridge crew escape pods but the rest would need to escape by other means

[stoic barn]

Also I think the dragonfly bay is dumb

[marsh mantle]

Oh definitely

[orchid goblet]

dragonflys get 2 people over to another ship to board it

[stoic barn]

Could’ve done many other things, hope it’s gonna be modular

[marsh mantle]

Thats why im hoping it becomes a modular room

[stoic barn]

We think the same

Get outta my head

[marsh mantle]

Hopium overdosed minds think the same

[stoic barn]

True

[marsh mantle]

Im like a crackhead but for kraken news

[stoic barn]

Wdym?

[stoic barn]

Everytime I see kraken in citizencons or whatever trailer, I get spasms

[orchid goblet]

dragonfly delivers FPS boarders, shoot open a hatch drop 1 off or both go in

[marsh mantle]

Also what i love about the kraken that isnt mentioned in any other ship is that is has bespoke security systems on most doors

[stoic barn]

Yes

[marsh mantle]

I know it has them for the bridge and turrets but im not sure about other rooms

[stoic barn]

Controlling the security

[marsh mantle]

I believe engineering will have it too

Being able to funnel the boarders where you want will be cool

[stoic barn]

Should be the case

Interior auto-turrets would be a must

Cuz kraken has like 11 entry points or so

[marsh mantle]

It will not have them unfortunately

[stoic barn]

Crazy

[marsh mantle]

But thats what the point defenses are for

[stoic barn]

Hopefully we can build them in

[marsh mantle]

They annihilate any drsgonflies that stray too close to the sun

[marsh mantle]

I assume we will, since ground bases will need interior defenses

[stoic barn]

What is purpose of dragonfly?

Can they fly in space?

[marsh mantle]

Yes

[stoic barn]

Oh that’s why Aeonov said that

[marsh mantle]

Dragonflies fly well in space

[orchid goblet]

dragonfly has 1 size 1 ship gun, and 2 seats, is a snub ship

[stoic barn]

Ahhh

I thought they were landspeeders mb lol

[marsh mantle]

I wouldnt call it a snub ship but it has the firepower to kill incoming boarders

[marsh mantle]

It can be a landspeeder too

But i dont know how you would get them back inside

[orchid goblet]

it doesn't go up in gravity, but in space you have 6 degrees of freedom

[stoic barn]

They come in through roof

[marsh mantle]

I know but in atmosphete thst would be impossiblr

[stoic barn]

Idk, maybe through structure or drydock no clue

I thought about that as well

[marsh mantle]

Mfw i have to construct a ramp just to recover my dragonfly

[stoic barn]

Maybe they’re supposed to be there for space

[marsh mantle]

I assume most kraken owners will have either an mpuv or atls stashed in the kraken

[stoic barn]

Or tractorbeam em

With atls

[marsh mantle]

Or do it the smart way

[stoic barn]

Freeeeebiiiirddd yeahhh

[marsh mantle]

And call in an ironclad to lift it in

[stoic barn]

Or that

[marsh mantle]

Efichensy

[stoic barn]

You should be able to use cutlass as well

To transport em in

I think you defenitely depend on something small and with enough space

[marsh mantle]

Id probably have like a zeus cl or something like that to run errands

[stoic barn]

Can do, but cutlass, drake😊

Idk I like drake so much

[marsh mantle]

Corsair my beloved

Me too

I dont get the hate

[stoic barn]

Well, everyone has different taste

I dislike origin

People wouldnt get that

[marsh mantle]

I man looks wise yeah thats fair

But people make fun of it for using low quality everything which is just wrong

[marsh mantle]

Origin vs drake will be a forever rivalry

[stoic barn]

I prefer drake style in everything

[marsh mantle]

amen

[stoic barn]

Although

Outland is pretty cool too and argo

[marsh mantle]

Yeah

Im exited for the corsair looking ship shown at citizen con

[stoic barn]

I think most ships look better than misc at least, I am one of the few who dislike misc shape

[marsh mantle]

My hopium senses tell me it will be a foreward scout ship, kind of like the rambler scout but bigger

[marsh mantle]

The nose shape on the starlancer is dreadful

Other than that its alright i guess

[stoic barn]

Yeah, good ship, but fat and ugly imo

[marsh mantle]

The only reason i picked it up is for the big firepower it offers in the turrets

[stoic barn]

Too round😂

[marsh mantle]

It seems like a good fleet support option until i can ccu to perseus

[stoic barn]

I get that, not a bad ship at all though

Freelancer as well, good starter ship

I just don’t like exterior shape haha

[marsh mantle]

Freelancer is alright its just that it hasnt gotten love from cig in forever

[orchid goblet]

but I am hoping the Herald is good at radar as well as stealth and speed for data running

[marsh mantle]

Im pretty sure the herald is just supposed to function like an sr 71

Not much stealth, it survives with speed

[stoic barn]

So drake, outland and argo are top looking man. For me.
Then RSI and Aegis
Then the rest lil

I dislike origin and misc design most

[orchid goblet]

The herald is the the "black van" vibe, has big screens for the second seat

[marsh mantle]

I like the exteriors of rsi

The polaris interior is nice too, but it looks like a minimalist apartment

Not like a military ship

[rapid crag]

You have bad taste!

[stoic barn]

I think carrack looks too much like it belongs to RSI brand really

[rapid crag]

Nyeh!

[marsh mantle]

KILL IT

[rapid crag]

That is kinda true but it has that nose canopy.

[rapid crag]

It is coming to kill you.

[marsh mantle]

It and what turrets

[stoic barn]

Everyone can have opinion man

[marsh mantle]

The firepower on the 890 is just sad

[rapid crag]

It and 8 S4 missiles.

[marsh mantle]

The small guns are so goofy

[stoic barn]

I like the idea of origin, and it’s nice as luxury, but not for my style and preference

[rapid crag]

It has many turrets and twice as many shields as any other ship currently in game.

[rapid crag]

4 S4?!?

And 4S3?!?

[marsh mantle]

S4 isnt very great for its size

Its not bad

But then again it is more of a touring ship so it makes sense

[stoic barn]

It’s classed as capital isn’t it

It shouldn’t be an assaulting ship anyway

[rapid crag]

Yes. And has 2 S4 shields to boot.

[stoic barn]

That’s like using a reclaimer to mine asteroids

Doesn’t make sense

[rapid crag]

Well if it gets attacked, it can defend itself.

[marsh mantle]

Yes but the shields mean nothing if you cant put out the hurt

[stoic barn]

True

And that’s good thing

[marsh mantle]

The 890 is a defensive ship, it has no offensive capabilities other than missiles

[rapid crag]

4 S4 and 4S3 remote do hurt. 32 S3 missiles as well.

[marsh mantle]

Which is fair

[rapid crag]

And?

[marsh mantle]

Im not saying thats a bad thing

[rapid crag]

It’s a Yacht.

[stoic barn]

U were talkin about shooting stuff and killing peeps with it, sounded more offense than defence

[marsh mantle]

I am aware, im just saying its a bit undergunned for its size class

[stoic barn]

But if you meant in defence then yeah makes sense

[rapid crag]

*Peeps in starter ships. Especially Cutters.

[marsh mantle]

Against cutters it would be a massacre

[rapid crag]

What other civilian ship has more guns in its class? Hull E? Hull D? Hull C? Orion?

[rapid crag]

That’s what I like to hear!

[marsh mantle]

Then again cutters are the equivilent of sending 100i's against an ironclad

[stoic barn]

Do you have people on the 890J?

Or will you be using it to massacre starter ships

[marsh mantle]

Reclaimer i guess

[rapid crag]

The 100is would win.

[rapid crag]

Nope.

[rapid crag]

This.

[rapid crag]

What does it have?

[stoic barn]

You have a weird idea of this game😂

[marsh mantle]

Give me a moment

[stoic barn]

But aight

To each their own

You can’t say I have bad taste when all you wanna do is that brother

[marsh mantle]

It has a dual size 5 turret and a bunch of size 3's dotting the exterior

[stoic barn]

Good luck with everyone being ur enemy, and perma death of a spaceman😜

People will put you on a KOS list

[marsh mantle]

How many times can you regenerate before you swith characters?

[rapid crag]

What!

[stoic barn]

No clue

[rapid crag]

Is what?

[rapid crag]

I own a Jav. Good luck.

[rapid crag]

Depends on the tier of medbed.

[marsh mantle]

I will not need it

[stoic barn]

You own it, with what backup

[marsh mantle]

A kraken with the correct fleet on its deck could take on a javelin

[stoic barn]

Easily

1 or 2 legionaires to swoop in

[rapid crag]

Blades and NPCs.

[stoic barn]

Bro I can’t take u serious sorry man

[rapid crag]

The deck is unshielded. Only the ships on deck have shields.

1 S12 torpedo and it’s over.

[marsh mantle]

They would be long gone before it hits

[stoic barn]

The deck is shielded

[rapid crag]

Would they?

[marsh mantle]

Or the point defenses would just intercept the torpedo

[rapid crag]

Since when?

[rapid crag]

Does Kraken have point defenses?

[stoic barn]

It just doesn’t include ships that are on jt

But the deck itself is shielded

[marsh mantle]

Not confirmed but the polaris got them added like a month before release

Its safe to say kraken will be covered in point defenses

[rapid crag]

That’s… the same thing!

[marsh mantle]

Its like the ship that would neef them most

[stoic barn]

Yeah but you think I’ll have any ships in deck when taking on a jav

[marsh mantle]

Also i believe the kraken and jav would detect each other at roughly similar yimes

My guess is that kraken will get capital size radar

It makes no sense for it to have a large

[stoic barn]

It’s Large radar for now

[rapid crag]

I would be the one hunting Krakens.

[marsh mantle]

It is literally an aircraft carrier

[rapid crag]

True. But Kraken has civilian components.

[marsh mantle]

So does jav?

When you get the jav it will be a demiliterised ship

[stoic barn]

Yeah, you’re gonna regret ever spending that money cuz you won’t survive 10 minutes on your own. Be real man

[marsh mantle]

With civilian components and NO guns

[rapid crag]

No it won’t.

[rapid crag]

Yes. Yes I will.

[stoic barn]

No, trust me

[marsh mantle]

Also kraken can be upgraded to military components

[stoic barn]

3k is in trashcan if u play like that

[marsh mantle]

So thats not saying luch

[rapid crag]

It has components. That was walked back years ago.

[rapid crag]

I highly doubt that.

[marsh mantle]

Maybe with components yes, but it will come with either no guns, or not good guns

[stoic barn]

I highly doubt you understand what kind of a ship you’re even flying

It won’t survive on it’s own man

[marsh mantle]

That is so you cant dominate wipe day 1

[stoic barn]

Not against fleets

[rapid crag]

It is assumed to come with its standard gear.

[marsh mantle]

Nope

[rapid crag]

It is specifically meant to do that. And covered in over 20 Pd turrets.

[marsh mantle]

You will not get a military grade javelin, you will have to buy those weapons to get it up to spec

[rapid crag]

I counted 12 just on the bottom middle of the ship.

[stoic barn]

Good luck with the legionaires

[marsh mantle]

They are decommisioned javs

[rapid crag]

I was told military grade.

[marsh mantle]

Im sorry but that person was lying to you

Or hes just wrong

[rapid crag]

PD for the win.

[rapid crag]

On the website.

[stoic barn]

Shooting down pds for the win

[marsh mantle]

Legionnaires can hack ships and shut down systems

[rapid crag]

Huh??

[rapid crag]

I highly doubt that. It’s an entire Jav.

[marsh mantle]

They could probably just shut off your point defenses given enough time

[stoic barn]

Exactly

Just hack a section

[marsh mantle]

I would agree, but you wouldnt have room for cybersecurity blades because of all of the gunner blades

[stoic barn]

And boom, pds down, entry access

[marsh mantle]

Plus the guns would only need to be down for like 10-20 seconds

[rapid crag]

Is… that a thing?

[rapid crag]

Entry for what?

[marsh mantle]

I feel like a legionnaire could make a window of entry for it self

[rapid crag]

[marsh mantle]

Legionnaire has a docking port on the nose for boarding

[rapid crag]

What about the larger guns?

[stoic barn]

It’s a boarding ship, entry to the ship

[rapid crag]

Where is it boarding?

[marsh mantle]

Through a docking port

[rapid crag]

Hangar is secure. Jav is actively moving and evading.

[stoic barn]

Legionaires are made for this

[marsh mantle]

We also do not know how hacking will work

[stoic barn]

At what speed

[marsh mantle]

But legionnaires singular purpose in life is to board ships like javelins

So i assume it would be pretty good at it

[stoic barn]

You cannot evade with a JAV HAHAHAHA

It’s a whale😂😂😂

[marsh mantle]

Javelin is kind of just like a brawler ship

[rapid crag]

Max?

[rapid crag]

I just… start rolling.

[marsh mantle]

Its nerf or nothing, you cant really evade going like 100m/s

Probablt less actually

[stoic barn]

Yeah, but even that, it’s gonna be soook slow

[rapid crag]

Roll.

Roll should make docking very difficult.

[stoic barn]

Rolling will take half a minute probably, what you see in game now is not the result it’s gona be

[marsh mantle]

I assume legionnaire will have autopilot that will compensate

[stoic barn]

They will

[marsh mantle]

Or atleast some kind of pilot assist

[stoic barn]

Javelin will move extremely slow

[rapid crag]

Huh??

[stoic barn]

Rolling wont help

Because rolling would be slow asf

[marsh mantle]

Let me break it down for you

A lone javelin

[stoic barn]

(With AI Blades only)

[marsh mantle]

Is the equivilent of sending out the bismark without any support ships

Its strong until someone actually tries to kill it

[rapid crag]

Fuel leaks aren’t a thing yet, right?

[marsh mantle]

No

[rapid crag]

[marsh mantle]

But they could get a mantis in the area and slowly wittle you down until you perish

[rapid crag]

It might work.

[rapid crag]

Mantis had S1 shields.

[marsh mantle]

You are not shooting down a mantis without fighter support

Its just not happening

It has a jamming range of 25km

[stoic barn]

might 3000 dollars spent for thst

Idk man

I’d start working on backup plans

To make actual functional use of that ship

[marsh mantle]

My reccomendation is find an org

Jav is a good ship, but if you want an all in one package ship that can work without a supporting fleet

Get an idris or kraken since they were made to be able to mostly fend for themselved

If you include fighter compliment

[stoic barn]

The fleet Im in, would destroy a lonely javelin within 10/20 minutes, low/medium effort

If a javelin is actually used as a capital ship

[marsh mantle]

I assume pd's could be distracted with regular missiles

[stoic barn]

It would be extremely difficult

[stoic barn]

We got 2 polarises

[marsh mantle]

So a polaris could just swoop in and annihilate after like 3-4 volleys of torpedoes

[stoic barn]

1 idris

A perseus

Kraken

Fighter ships

[marsh mantle]

Im part of a big org thats split into an english and french side

[stoic barn]

Legionaire

I own a small org of 35 people rn

[marsh mantle]

French side has like 3 javelins and a bucket load of every capital ship, but i dont speak french so uhh

[rapid crag]

Jav has a hangar for a reason.

[marsh mantle]

English side is comparible to yours

[stoic barn]

Who’s flying then

[stoic barn]

Cool, mine is fully english as well

[rapid crag]

It has around 20 of them for a reason.

[marsh mantle]

Kraken and its fighter compliment would tear any fighter you could deploy

[rapid crag]

The NPCs?

[stoic barn]

Ships?

[rapid crag]

Kraken has not many.

[stoic barn]

Blade can’t fly fighters for you can they?

[marsh mantle]

I mean thosr will exist

[rapid crag]

Yes?

[rapid crag]

NPCs can.

[marsh mantle]

If your smart it can carry 8 fighters if your not counting the big main dexk

[stoic barn]

Uhhh idk man, never heard that

[marsh mantle]

Ai npcs will exist, i would love to yap about them but i dont think this is the place

Pilot npcs*

[stoic barn]

You can hire them?

[marsh mantle]

Its a whole system

[stoic barn]

Didn’t know

Got a source, video

?

[marsh mantle]

If you want we could vc and i could tell you about them, over text it would tskr forever

Let me dig it up

[rapid crag]

How??

Brb.

[marsh mantle]

Internal hangars are big

2 f7's could probably fit

If not then 2 buccaneers

[stoic barn]

You mean repair hangars?

[marsh mantle]

Yes

[stoic barn]

They’re pretty big

[marsh mantle]

If you want to repair you just launch one of the fighters to clear it for the other one

People seem to forget how much osha violations will improve the krakens viability

[stoic barn]

Yeah, as long as bring all resources

I think, honestly, if you fly a javelin lonely, you defeat the purpose of a capital ship, strategy talking, it’s gonna fail u

But that’s how I see it

Because it’d be a capital ship of… what… of nothing

Maybe a bunch of npc fighters that get shot down as soon as they leave hangar

It’s supposed to be a backing ship, that is there to deploy fighters, shoot large guns at nearby targets, oversee battle, etc

It’ll be so incredibly slow, fighters will be dancing around it

[marsh mantle]

Hammerheads already struggle and that thing is made to kill fighters

[violet gust]

me dreaming of some cool T8A Bombers, hope they will be made to buy them or Upgrade the C vatiant

[marsh mantle]

it could be like xenothreat with the f7a

[violet gust]

yeah

[rapid crag]

They showed a single Buccaneer fitting.

[marsh mantle]

i mean yeah but they also show just 2 cutlasses on the deck

hold on

[rapid crag]

And…?

[marsh mantle]

you could easily fit more than one in here...

the hangar is about the size of the 2 small pads

[stoic barn]

Yeo

Look at 3d model

[marsh mantle]

you could maybe fit 3 or 4 but that depends on how far back the buccaneer can go

[stoic barn]

2 large hangars

Each as big as 2 pads

Maybe a bit shorter in depth

But it should be able to fit a bunch

[stoic barn]

Yes

[marsh mantle]

and from the looks of it they widen as it goes in

you could probably fit more fighters by putting a wing into the doorway that connects the two hangars

but then it will be obsurd to crew that many so

that will be relagated to mpuv storage or something

[stoic barn]

Still, you can fit 2 fighters on each pad

[rapid crag]

Why do both Jav and Idris have MPUV Storage anyways?

[stoic barn]

And on the big deck idk how many

[rapid crag]

MPUVs suck!

[marsh mantle]

how do you manage cargo

in space

ship to ship

without dedicated on ship tractor beams

[rapid crag]

315P or c1.

[marsh mantle]

even then an mpuv is better than a ship mounted tractor beam

[marsh mantle]

thats just stupid

im trying to look at it from a positive angle

but its just stupid when you can save the hangar space and use the mpuv

[rapid crag]

How in what way?

[rapid crag]

QD and higher capacity.

[marsh mantle]

it can move

[marsh mantle]

mpuv is supposed to act as a moving tractor beam

it is a snub fighter

that is like calling a fury ass because a 100i has a qd and is bigger and can hold cargo

they are completely different ships

mpuv is just a smarter choice, because its a pilot controlled tractor beam

and it also saves on hangar space because it has its own slot in the ship

[rapid crag]

Still though. Am I really expected to load 4K SCU with MPUVs alone?

[marsh mantle]

yeah

and with the assistance of the cargo ships and atls mechs oboard

since i assume something like an ironclad will be bringing in the cargo

[stoic barn]

He’s playing solo

[marsh mantle]

so with the combined manpower of the ironclads 2 tractor beams, and the mpuv it would be a quick process

[rapid crag]

I don’t have ATLS.

[marsh mantle]

im aware

[marsh mantle]

its like 75k in game

[stoic barn]

Yep

Cheap asf

[rapid crag]

Can it fit onto a Jav? Or a supporting ship to get it onto a Jav.

[marsh mantle]

have you seen the atls

ever

[stoic barn]

It fits easily in c2

[marsh mantle]

the thing can fit almost anywhere a person can fit

[stoic barn]

And even smaller ships

[marsh mantle]

its the size of a 8scu box

(when theres nobody using it)

also atls' will be used for cargo arrangement and management

[stoic barn]

You can fit dozens if not hundreds of atls in javelin

[rapid crag]

Yes. It’s a bit tall and wide.

[marsh mantle]

is an 8scu box too much for the javelin

[rapid crag]

No? But an 8SCU box can be tractored in.

An ATLS has to walk.

And the Jav has human sized halls.

[marsh mantle]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

atls lives in the cargo deck

it wouldnt need to go anywhere

[stoic barn]

Also, your main income would be extorting people

So idk how you’ll pay for anything

[rapid crag]

But how do I get it on?

[rapid crag]

By extorting people…?

[marsh mantle]

just tractor beam it on board

[rapid crag]

Kinda self explanatory ain’t it?

[marsh mantle]

its not like you cant tractor beam it

as long as theres no operator inside of it

[stoic barn]

Which probably won’t work is what Im saying

[rapid crag]

It’s a vehicle?

[marsh mantle]

yes?

[rapid crag]

Why wouldn’t it?

[marsh mantle]

so

[stoic barn]

No one’s gonna take it serious

A solo javelin

Maybe solo people who dont have much

[marsh mantle]

also atls is an abomination of vehicle/player

but its technically a vehicle

[rapid crag]

Can those be tractor beamed?

[rapid crag]

Somebody that spent a week building a base and doesn’t want a demotion to “pile of rubble.”

[rapid crag]

How do they know?

[marsh mantle]

W H A T

every vehicle can get tractor beamed

as long as shields are down

(atls has no shields to speak of)

[rapid crag]

Whats to stop me from abducting someone actively using their Atls and making them do work?

Or abducting someone on any unshielded vehicle for that matter.

[marsh mantle]

most ground vehicles have shields

[stoic barn]

Spooky, let me tell u something.

[marsh mantle]

and i dont think you can tractor beam an atls when its manned

[rapid crag]

Hoverbikes.

[marsh mantle]

they have shields too i believe

size 0

[rapid crag]

Only the X1 Force does.

[rapid crag]

Hoverbikes?

[stoic barn]

You’ll probably be put on blacklists by organizations with this gameplay style, groups will dedicate to take away every bit of fun you might have

They’ll keep coming for u

[marsh mantle]

how will you manage to catch a hoverbike with tractor beam

[stoic barn]

This is not the right game to do this

[marsh mantle]

and ok you got the bike, the guy can just jump off

and you steal yourself a 20k bike

yummers

[stoic barn]

Orgs will keep destroying you, not giving you an ounce of freedom

[rapid crag]

But I needs money.

[marsh mantle]

then get an org to help you do that

[stoic barn]

Then play gta or sum lol

[rapid crag]

Rockstar bad.

[stoic barn]

This aint the game for those wild ideas

Theres some dedicated groups here

[rapid crag]

I am in some of them.

[stoic barn]

Who would love to hunt people like u down for sport

[rapid crag]

I will base myself out of their stations.

[stoic barn]

They’ll keep coming and coming, destroying you with every dedication in order to stop you from fucking about. Until you give up and leave the game

[marsh mantle]

you will need to give them something in return though

[stoic barn]

Cuz you’re not the only one with a javelin

I myself am starting to consider it, because our org dedicates in destroying criminals and pirates

[rapid crag]

I… don’t think thats how that works.

[stoic barn]

Its a persistent universe

[rapid crag]

Jav? Nuff said.

[stoic barn]

Why wouldnt it

[rapid crag]

Because I only want to extort cow farmers in Pyro.

You’r saying an Org is going to actively try to stop me from doing that?

[marsh mantle]

yes because the prospect of jacking a fully bladed javelin is pretty sweet

or atleast destroying one and scraping it

[stoic barn]

Yes

Plenty of orgs

Will do that

[marsh mantle]

and since you are putting a massive target on your back by saying you will have no actual people onbaord

[rapid crag]

NPCs.

[stoic barn]

Bro, stop the axt

Are u trolling or real

[marsh mantle]

npc's will be alright at gunning but they will be garbage at engineering probably

who will fix your ship

[rapid crag]

Real obviously.

[stoic barn]

Sometimes I wonder if you’re actually believing this’ll work or are just trying to troll about haha

[rapid crag]

Oh. Nooo.

[stoic barn]

Im not trying to be a dick right, just being realistic to ur ideas

[marsh mantle]

also oh my god how rapidly are you switching profile pictures

werent you red like 2 minutes ago

[rapid crag]

I’m not?

[stoic barn]

Because it will probably really dissappoint you when it unfolds

[rapid crag]

I am red.

[marsh mantle]

to me your blue

[rapid crag]

Am I not?

[marsh mantle]

discord just cannot keep up i guess

[rapid crag]

??

[stoic barn]

He’s red for me

[rapid crag]

You are Delulu.

[marsh mantle]

i probably just need to restart discord

anyways

[rapid crag]

Ok.

Well, my lunch is here.

I’ll be in #1252128354686206044 if you need me.

[stoic barn]

Aight man have a good one, dont’t forget to inform us when javelin’s ingame how your plan is working

Really curious about that

[marsh mantle]

anyways

life is roblox kraken

[stoic barn]

Have I mentioned I like the kraken?

[marsh mantle]

no you have not

[stoic barn]

Lol

[marsh mantle]

have you heard of our lord and saviour kraken ?

[stoic barn]

Pirate owned krakens aren’t real, they can’t hurt me

[marsh mantle]

i am not in danger I AM the danger

[stoic barn]

😢

[marsh mantle]

also piracy isnt real

it is merely

liberation of cargo

kind of like robin hood but he doesnt give anything to the poor

[stoic barn]

Heavy release

Without sexual context

3792 scu full of drugs

Resources

[marsh mantle]

full of medicine drug

[stoic barn]

(:

That’s quite the cargo capacitt

[ruby belfry]

With the polaris releasing at IAE - what are the chances it becomes the new loaner for the Kraken (instead of the Hammerhead)

[marsh mantle]

I'd say they are high due to its fighter carrying abilities

Its a closer match to the kraken than the hammerhead

[violet gust]

hm, but do they change loaners all the time?

[quartz torrent]

Usually when some ship of closer similarity becomes flyable or a ship is broken they may temporarily swap it. Just varies.

[stoic barn]

Extremely low

Knowing cig😅

But it would be extremely nice

[marsh mantle]

Why is it unlikely?

[ruby belfry]

how come? it makes more sense to get another cap rather than a ship no one uses lol

[marsh mantle]

my guess is that it will be polaris+ironclad then idris+ironclad

and then kraken comes out

[ruby belfry]

thats what I was thinking as well lol

[stoic barn]

Idris as a loaner?

I mean a polaris OR ironclad would be more believable

They wont give you a ship of bigger value so no way itll be idris + orher capital

That’d be crazy

[stoic barn]

Yeah maybe

I think it will not have 2 capitals though as loaners

[marsh mantle]

Idris is less valuable

[marsh mantle]

Ironclad isint capital thoguh

iirc idris m value is around 75 less than kraken

I used the wiki because the rsi website says the M is only 1000

[stoic barn]

Yes but adding another ship to it, like polaris or ironclad

I don’t think that’s gonna happen

Not saying I wouldnt want to though, but I keep my expectations low

[ruby belfry]

I could see Cat getting replaced by Ironclad and HH getting replaced by Polaris, then that getting replaced by Idris

[marsh mantle]

Ironclad makes up for the polaris' relatively low cargo capacity

Ironclad isnt great combat wisr

[rapid crag]

Probably.

[static crystal]

Im curious if anyone thinks we will see new info on the Kraken later this month on Drake day?

[ruby belfry]

probably not until after the Ironclad is released

[marsh mantle]

Unlikely

Next year invictus or iae is plausible though

[static crystal]

But i wants needs it now lol

[marsh mantle]

We all do

My guess is them showing the kraken at either invictus or iae 2026

And then a release on the next big ship sale

Kind of like they did with the polaris

[stoic barn]

You think?

[stoic barn]

They did say a few new surprises not sure what it was about

But it's 0.1% chance of happening

[rapid crag]

Is this the train? Can i run people over with it?

[ruby belfry]

no, thats habitation

[rapid crag]

Why are there tracks on the game.

[ruby belfry]

thats just the floor pattern i'm pretty sure... IF the tram goes past there, it'll be small - not like the ones you ride in the cities

[ruby belfry]

also - it even states "Hab01" beside the door, not "Tram" if your thinking that part is the tram

[rapid crag]

Yes. But do the trams run past the door though...?

And through habitation??

[ruby belfry]

nope. Habitation is an bit higher than where the tram runs through

Looks like there might be stairs going down from Habitation (2) to where the tram(8) is suppose to be possible

looks like either different floors, or habitation has a flight of stairs down to that level maybe if they aren't completely different floors

Looks like that blue line that the tram is on goes under the habs though, to the cargo bay

[marsh mantle]

I believe the only access points to the tram line will be through the cargo bay or the pads

[marsh mantle]

The corridor is too small, i doubt they would make the tram be able to carry like 4 scu at a time

Also what export said

[verbal rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1308926977834487808/image.png?ex=673fb8be&is=673e673e&hm=31023e180b4cd1d771c6c4358892d55b59f999011648c94384ec4aa909e7be92&

[quartz torrent]

[stoic barn]

Nice!

So I was wrong, luckily

[marsh mantle]

chat is this real

chat

[ruby belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/panik-kalm-calm-meme-memer-gif-20895926

[marsh mantle]

is this their first time mentioning this or has this been here on previous sales?

[ruby belfry]

I think it was hinted before but never put in writing

[marsh mantle]

Janitor is working on the kraken confirmed

[ruby belfry]

well.. they are actively working on the ironclad right now.. so Im hoping someone is at least looking at the kraken if nothing else lol

[marsh mantle]

kraken 2026

they have been teasing it and mentioning it an awful lot

[ruby belfry]

I really hope so lol if not, ima be sad

[marsh mantle]

so theres no way they dont have it planned in the not so far future

[ruby belfry]

true. Im going guess either IAE 2026 or at the latest, drakecon 2027

[marsh mantle]

my guess

is drake con 2026 will be the kraken being shown

but not flyable

kind of like the polaris in this years invictus

and then a very soon ™️ launch

[ruby belfry]

I could see that happening. They'll definitely do something for the kraken at drakecon

[marsh mantle]

I dont have pictures

but at the end of the contested zone

after like reaching the end of it after like 2 hours

theres a medium hangar for you to leave

and in that hangar there is a very small kraken isignia on the wall

[ruby belfry]

oh shit, really? hmm.. I may need to try the contested zones lol

[marsh mantle]

i cant confirm but it sounds believeable

its very difficult

[ruby belfry]

Ill likely fail miserably lol

[marsh mantle]

like you need to be good to make it through since it is literally the whole station you have to fight thru

small price to pay to see the kraken logo ingame

[ruby belfry]

true. Im gonna give it a try, probably faiol, but on the off chance I succeed - I wanna see that just because.. reasons lol

[marsh mantle]

We must do it together

[ruby belfry]

I'd be down for that.

[marsh mantle]

Chat, call me schizoprenic but i think they did something to the kraken holo view

i do not remember this artifact being here on the deck

[violet gust]

so drake day, nothing new about kraken?

[ruby belfry]

not this year

[ruby belfry]

may be nothing.. may be something... lol

[marsh mantle]

janitor is working on kraken double confirmed lets gooo

[willow plover]

Sigh.. maybe in 2030?

[ruby belfry]

2026 is my hope!! ||lol... :')||

[willow plover]

❤️

[marsh mantle]

Never say never

Hear me out

Kraken tomorrow

[ruby belfry]

if they actually released it tomorrow, I would give CIG my entire next pay cheque just out of respect and thanks 🤣

[marsh mantle]

i checked the wayback machines last snapshot which was on november 22nd of this year, it was in concept

krakalakin time might unironically come 2026

[ruby belfry]

wait.. is it in production or just concept? don't give me false hope now!

[marsh mantle]

To my knowlage

In production is not full on production but it is on the backburner

It is in the same situation as the perseus

So i assume someone is working on it

Active production is when its proper all hands on deck

Atleast that is the way i interperet in production

Cause i dont really know the actual difference between in production and active production

[ruby belfry]

Probably working on shared assets between it and the Iron clad, as thats in production right now

[marsh mantle]

Maybe

Either way, i think we are approaching hell yeah territory

[ruby belfry]

I think you may be right. once they have the IronClad done, its easy for them to start on the Kraken.

[marsh mantle]

What i am hoping for is in the balancing phase it gets a capital sized radar

Since yknow

Its a spacecraft carrier

[thick sandal]

how much time do you think there will be between base and privateer release, if any at all? think we will get both at the same time, or a gap release like the Zeus/other ship variants due to different assets/systems

[ruby belfry]

We'll get the base before the Privateer. Might ge tthe Privateer before the BMM still though. lol

[thick sandal]

more salt in the wound i reckon

[marsh mantle]

I assume privateer will be a fair bit after the kraken

Mainly because they would have to remake half of the interior

And apperently there will he functions to sell fuel

[ruby belfry]

the privatter to sell fuel, or the base? cause the privateer gets rid of the extra fuel storage

[marsh mantle]

The privateer would pull from the normal fuel tanks

And if i remember the qna mentioned something about it having a fuel selling system thats bespoke to the privateer or something along those lines

[ruby belfry]

oh.. thought that was just for refueling your own ships.. shit.. I see what your saying.. nvm me lol

[marsh mantle]

Where it automatically bills the person instead of you needing to ask

[ruby belfry]

the abse can refuel as well, thats why it has the extra tanks. for refueling the fleet

[ruby belfry]

wait, really? I didn't think the privateer had that. thought it was just the base

[marsh mantle]

I am not sure if it automatically bills the person

Im just guessing since it has something to make it possible to sell refuel services

I dont really know what else would make life easier

Also do bear in mind i am a professional schizo so i may be missremembering

[ruby belfry]

could just refuel as if its your own shipn and tell the person to send ya some credits. I cant see the privateer having a fuel sell option like the starfarer without the extra tanks

[marsh mantle]

I mean the idris has like 1g worth of fuel

Dont even know what kind of number that is but if the kraken has similar amounts im sure refuelling ships wont be an issue

[ruby belfry]

I dont think it will be na issue, I jsut dont think it will be a feature on the privateer, since it only has its own reserve

[marsh mantle]

Maybe

Ill double check the privateer qna later and see if i was schizophrenic or not

[marsh mantle]

Ah

I might have missunderstood what was written here

[ruby belfry]

ok, so both will be able to, just the abse will ahve more fuel to do it with since it has the extra tanks

[violet gust]

well just give base kraken as loaner all is fine than

[marsh mantle]

more hopium, yummers

[marsh mantle]

guys hear me out, what if the kraken gets a couple smaller sized multipurpose drones, something like the M3-A drone since to my knowlage the only way to repair or refuel ships will either be by hand or by drone and i think i know the kraken is way too based for hand repair and refuel to be the only option

[ruby belfry]

The internal hangars are the "Repair stations" - so.. by hand is likely the option.

[marsh mantle]

I never noticed that, damn

Anyways

Kraken second to none!1!

[ruby belfry]

[rapid crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1340969380342923317/ezgif-548b1fd94626d4.gif

[quartz torrent]

Kraken with internal sound system for music when?

[willow plover]

Just put this Bad Boi into Prod already Chris...!! lets fucking Goooooooo

[amber ember]

it already is

has been shown as an actual ship in the Nyx system which is in greybox

also putting the Kraken in Greybox

[willow plover]

yea i saw that - i started drooling when i did...

[stoic barn]

link?

[amber ember]

https://starcitizen.tools/Kraken

[stoic barn]

This is not from CIG right?

So how is this confirming it's current state? Or does it fetch from CIGs status

idk, if we can be 100% sure that star citizen has put it in production already

[marsh mantle]

My guess is that it is, due to when it was shown in citizencon, there was the text
greybox| in production at the bottom

[stoic barn]

Yeah but it wasnt about the kraken I think

[marsh mantle]

While you do have a point, they did kind of pan onto it and zoom in

i doubt they would show it off and pay attention to it just for "hell yeah"

[marsh mantle]

plus dont forget all of the kraken mentions throughout 2024

[stoic barn]

Does kinda sound like CIG though, just saying😂

[stoic barn]

they do have frequent mentions/teases about kraken which is good

But I doubt 2026 will be the year. I'm thinking 2027 or 2028

the more you think about it being close the more it's gonna eat away at you

[marsh mantle]

Cant eat whats already eaten

Work smarter not harder

[stoic barn]

lol, well.. I hope 2026 of course. I just don't think it'll be it.

[quartz torrent]

[rapid crag]

2026. Before SQ42.

[amber ember]

everything shown is the state its advertised in

so showing the Kraken in Nyx thats in greybox

like my guess
kraken is set to release in either 2026 or with Nyx

[marsh mantle]

Honestly i dont think the kraken being in greybox should be such a massive shock, because day 1, first time we saw the kraken its exterior was already mostly complete

[amber ember]

ye

the most problematic thing about the Kraken would be the interiour

especially the dragonfly bay and the internal tram

[marsh mantle]

The one thing i dont get about the dragonfly bay is how you recover your dragonflies in atmosphere

[rapid crag]

"Internal Tram."

I"m going to drive this thing through a giant hole in the side.

[marsh mantle]

Also, i dont think the tram would be too difficult, just make it operate kind of like an elevator

[amber ember]

Maybe with an internal elevator?

How would the cargo hold work landed?

[rapid crag]

Nuh uh. I wanna drive.

[marsh mantle]

Im pretty sure the way it works is that there is a main cargo hold and then a secondary smaller one thats under the main hold which has the cargo elevator

Its either a big door or an elevator idk

[amber ember]

hm

my guess would be a ramp

[marsh mantle]

Im pretty sure theres concept art where its just a big door, hold on

[amber ember]

there is the 2 hangars

with the ramp underneath

[marsh mantle]

Maybe

[marsh mantle]

From this concept i dont know if thats landing gear or a ramp/elevator

[amber ember]

yes

ramp

at the side

[marsh mantle]

Oh nice

My only question how do you get the dragonflies up there

Into the dragonfly bay

[amber ember]

maybe here?

[marsh mantle]

I dont see any entrance from this picture of the bay other than the roof

[amber ember]

also
we have a fully textured Kraken since 2020

[marsh mantle]

I pay my respects to it every day

Hopefully you will be able to chose if you want to deploy the ramp or just open it up for ship to ship transfer like here

[amber ember]

im just waiting for IAE 2955 to show the teasers

one being the Kraken

with Citcon hyping it up this year

[marsh mantle]

My guess is drake teasing it during drake def con

[marsh mantle]

Or that

[amber ember]

showing it in base building trailer

landing in a base

with a cutlass landing on it

[marsh mantle]

Hear me out, remove the dragonfly bay and add a drone bay

[amber ember]

modularity maybe?

[marsh mantle]

Man it blocked my gif

The dragonfly bay seems like the ideal modular room

[amber ember]

dragonfly bay module and drone module

[marsh mantle]

Since its very niche

[marsh mantle]

I really really hope they give the kraken some kind of drones

Even like small ones

Just so it can do automated hull repair and ship recovery

[amber ember]

also love how the kraken was choosen by 37%

of 3 ships being

A: The Vulture

B: The Corsair

C: The Krakne

like

[marsh mantle]

Kraken second to none

Its as simple as that

[amber ember]

"Choose the last Drake ship ship" ahhh pull

[marsh mantle]

(even though it got like 2nd place in the poll i think)

[amber ember]

it won with 37%, no?

no it was really was 2nd

who won?

vulture or corsair

[marsh mantle]

Hold on ill check the poll

I might be wrong

[amber ember]

it was vulture

1st Vulture
2nd Krakne
3rd Corsair

[stoic barn]

Its confirmed that javelin is first capital ship after sq42 (at least thats what they said) so I dont think so since javelin has priority

[marsh mantle]

Javelin is already complete i believe due to it being in squadron

I think they said the idris and jav would be delivered alognside squadron didint they?

[stoic barn]

Only idriz

Javelin will come right after squadrons release as first project

So the kraken will be queued after that

[marsh mantle]

Doesnt the jav have most of its interior since its a part of squadron?

I remember hearing that we spend a lot of time in another ship thats not the uees stanton (the idris)

I forgot what ship it is though

[stoic barn]

It does, but it’s not multiplayer ready I think.

Remember 100s of people will fly it

[marsh mantle]

Maybe

[marsh mantle]

Servers will implode if they dont get dynamic server meshing out before jav

Me and my org tried to have a friendly org battle

4 polarises and fighters

The server crashed as soon as the first shots started flying

[stoic barn]

Hahaha

Fcking hell, imagine a large scale fleet battle

[marsh mantle]

Wirhout dynamic server meshing i doubt its possible

Unless you do it right at the border of 2 servers lol

[stoic barn]

Yep

We’ll have to sit tight and see

Im rooting for 2026 btw

But realistically idk if thatll be true

[marsh mantle]

I think its plausible

Since a very large marketting point of the ironclad was the fact that kraken comes after it

[stoic barn]

Everything’s plausible but the game’s code is one big mess I imagine

[marsh mantle]

And from the looks of it they are going to knock it out in a year flat

Probably not the assault thougu

[stoic barn]

Ironclad will be a ship that’s aimed for this year

Same as base building

But it’s been real quiet

[marsh mantle]

My guess is that its drake defense con, cause when we saw the ironclad was already in greybox

I keep mixing up white and greybox, but im pretty sure greybox comes before whitebox

[stoic barn]

November

Maybe end of this year will give us the goodies

Although they did say base building early 2025

Well, it’s been really quiet about that hahaha

[marsh mantle]

They did say in the monthly report that base building is in validation

Which to my understanding means its effectively done i think

[stoic barn]

We’ll see

[amber ember]

Its set to release during IAE

[stoic barn]

What is?

[amber ember]

Base Building

[willow plover]

THE KRAKEN???

Released at IAE??

Im a building up me hopium

[ruby belfry]

lmfao hell nah. Need IC to release first, then 1-3 years after that happens

[marsh mantle]

Probably not this year, im betting on a tease on next years invictus and then a release iae the same year

[willow plover]

Hopium continues to build....

[marsh mantle]

In am ammasing dangerous levels of hopium

[willow plover]

Yeapers

[stoic barn]

Good one

if that would happen I'd cry out of joy

I need to fly it....

I litterally bought space engineers just to fly a recreation of one

[willow plover]

Love me my Krakoes...!! Soon TM

[marsh mantle]

Its a very well made recreation

[stoic barn]

hell yeah, spent hours in it

just way too addictive to look at ur future ship

[marsh mantle]

The golem is clearly a teaser for the kraken, think about it:

The golem, a being from Jewish folklore, is an artificial creature made of clay and brought to life by mystical means. Though originally created to serve and protect, it often becomes uncontrollable, reflecting humanity’s struggle with power over its own creations.

A similar theme appears in Frankenstein’s monster, influenced by the golem legend. Frankenstein’s creature, like the golem, is an artificial being that ultimately escapes its creator’s control, showing the dangers of playing with forces beyond human understanding.

This idea of artificial beings extends back even further to Greek mythology, where Talos, a giant bronze automaton, was crafted to defend the island of Crete. Like the golem, Talos was a protector, yet he was also a force of destruction when faced by outsiders.

Talos, patrolling the coastline of Crete, connects us to another realm of mythical threats: sea monsters. Greek sailors feared creatures like Scylla and Charybdis, monstrous entities lurking in the depths, capable of destroying entire ships.

These fears of the sea carried into Norse mythology, where sailors spoke of the Hafgufa, a massive beast believed to be so large it could be mistaken for an island. Over time, such myths blended with sailors' real encounters with giant squids, leading to the legend of the kraken—a monstrous cephalopod capable of dragging ships into the abyss.

Golem= kraken

[quartz torrent]

[amber ember]

Enough of the magic spacedust for you

[marsh mantle]

I think my logic is sound

[marsh mantle]

Ill have you know i used the finest copium from out back

[amber ember]

Protocol 4
Snort the Space dust

[marsh mantle]

I can stop

Whenver

I

Want

[rapid crag]

https://tenor.com/view/intervention-cobie-smulders-alyson-hannigan-neil-patrick-harris-josh-radnor-gif-4923627

[marsh mantle]

YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE

[stoic barn]

Give me some of the stuff you’re having m8…

[marsh mantle]

I stare at my kraken 3d print and or the kraken reveal trailer for 5 hours, go to bed and then it comes to me in a dream

[stoic barn]

The one I gave u?

Did u print it

[marsh mantle]

Yup

When i get home ill send a picture

[stoic barn]

Sweet!

Did u manage to get one lately?

In the f5 war

[marsh mantle]

No unfortunately, but theres always round 2

[willow plover]

KRAKEN being released this free flight yea?

Cmon spinner...

[marsh mantle]

of course of course

❤️

[marsh mantle]

krakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrowkrakentomorrow

[amber ember]

either im schizophrenic or thats a Kraken

[ruby belfry]

where the heck did these photso come from?? 😮

[marsh mantle]

im pretty sure they were taken on like a hacked client

its crazy how well the exterior looks

i believe these images are from 2018

i think its this exact model

https://youtu.be/PfXB5jnGXBQ?si=305g4EGrbgCRHseJ&t=2106

kraken tomorrow

[ruby belfry]

ah, fair. was starting to get pumped.. but... its still too far away to get excited over lol

[marsh mantle]

man

why can i not send gifs

unuseable server

[ruby belfry]

lol they make you require roles for gif perms. its odd, but i understand.. so people dont just come in adn start spamming gifs n shit

[marsh mantle]

bullsheise

[quartz torrent]

Roles for gifs?

Ain't need no damn roles for dat

[marsh mantle]

i cant send my funny ironic meme gifs

[ruby belfry]

For tenor roles ya do. Can post them manually though lol

[quartz torrent]

Ya ain't supposed to tell the secrets

[ruby belfry]

Ive always been bad for that. they shouldn't have trusted me with such sacred secrets 🤣