#Whale Club
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this one feels rough too. don't really have desire to pledge more for any ships or other rewards. i may hit this eventually with subscriber and stuff but that will take a while
Same, aside from a pioneer or maybe a new concept I feel done for now
At that level, what don't you have?
Well, I'm going to stop at Space Marshal...........................................
There is no stop

Iām glad I got into this game at 22 because dang Iām gonna be sinking so much
Living with parents = more to spend on JPEGs 
LOL, that's real stonks right there
Someone would pay good money to buy my idris off me
(That someone is me⦠because itās mine forever)
not sc but it still works
Why canāt I buy any more key rings? I need another because mine just broke but it wonāt let me buy it.
Howād it break? Isnāt it metal?
The head came off the pole at the center of the diamond and I donāt know hot to put it back.
Well I'm definitely stopping now that the 'pimp my C3-PO' armour arrived in my inventory yesterday š¤£
Something about this comic makes me feel uncomfortable. I can't tell what.
Whats the reason for this being available?
xenothreat
Ah yeah I should probably look at the website before I open my mouth
Didn't expect another event like 2 days after alien week
but makes sense
thanks @unborn badger
It is delayedā¦
Can you call them up and tell them to refresh the alien week ccu's? Prowler please, thanks
Anyone know if you get the origin complete pack if you can still customize the interiors of the 300 series?
You can, yes.
Yes, just like normal.
Didnāt know you could do that normally eitherā¦
I donāt buy a lot of 300 series ships tbf lol
Buy more Origin.

Is being a member of the High Admirals club considered reasonable to participate here?
Yes.

Idris owners, whatās your plan to do with your Idris?
Mine is just to use it as a mobile base for my friends and I until the kraken comes then we use the idris as a guard ship for the kraken while we transport stuff.
Cargo in hostile areas, i enjoy industrial stuff, so it'll literly just be an armoured cargo hauler in more dangeeouse areas like Pyro
Heck yeah brother!
they may break my Catapillar, but good luck punching through my Idris before i'm gone! My cargo always arrive at its destination!
Thatās literally what the Idris is
Yeah I know, so I'm going to use it as one
With the S10 gun, carrying capacity and every facility you could probably want it is the perfect org flag ship
Not gonna change my mind with the kraken or jav
Jav holds 5X as much, has more firepower for power projection, and has a taller hanger than can hold more ships.
You mean people or fighters? The Jav definitey does not have 5X or even "more" carrying capacity than the Idris. Yes it is taller so it could accommodate for bigger ships (one Vanguard), but in terms of capacity the Idris wins
I'm not talking about perfect in terms of absolute power output either
You don't get the "flight deck" and carrier launch sequence in the Jav and Kraken. Fighters kind of just take off vertically. Idris has that vibe
Yes I'm an absolute sucker for the ship. My favorite design out of all ships SC
The Javelin can hold a larger variety of ships than the Idris, but cannot hold a larger quantity of ships. Very different ship roles, so comparing apples to oranges.
The Idris has more floor capacity for fighters but the Javelin can hold a Redeemer which can easily defeat 3 fighters.
This is true. But I feel like that means it is more difficult to take off because of the roof and it limiting visibility.
Probably blow up peoples ships while they are down in a bunker

Or just land the Idris on top of it and watch them come outside seeing a huge Idris parked there looking at them where their ship was
Then have an Idris disco rave on board when they join my crew
Me after I blow their shit up and then invite them on board
CIG specifically mentioned the Jav could no longer carry a Redeemer after the Deemerās size increase
WHAT?!?
Why, when??
Since 2020
During the development of Squadron 42, it was decided to create the Vanguard Hoplite instead of using the Redeemer as the games dropship, mainly due to the Vanguard's ability to fit inside the Javelin's hangar.
Then maybe they changed the Jav hangar to be larger after 2021, since that was the reason they gave for the existence of the Van Hoplite
I wouldnāt be surprised either way
Maybe. Again itās CIG if you bought it you are stuck with whatever they feed you in the end
If a Redeemer doesnāt fit, then I am filling that thing with furies.
start buying furies
I have like, 5.
Not quite enough but itās somethings.
I wonder if a 400i would fit. Itās triangular so 5 furies would probably fit in the space it isnāt taking up.
you havent bough them before?
if you don't have 3 furys lti you did it wrong
show
if you look at the video not only is the redeemer landed slanted not straight but it also doesnt fit going straight up. The f8C does not fit in the 890J hangar but if you tilt the right wing and slowly get it under the hangar door you can then fit inside.
Its probably the same with the redeemer it fits if you seesaw it inside the hangar by putting the nose of the redeemer inside and flying forward to fit the back in.
it wouldnt make sense to use the redeemer in the jav because while it "fits" it isnt able to just go up and leave making it not viable for combat since it cannot leave the hangar in a quick and easy way
I heard you're fans of big spending
Is that a HƤstens?
When will the key rings be back?
890J master suite goes brrrt.
When is Dynamic Bedsheet deformation?
Left to right side in 3 business days
It was made by Welcon GmbH in Germany
not even horsehair smh
Chris got that bed with our whale money
@plush smelt You are forgetting one thing, rear of the jav has the cargo access port.
Which can be accessed externally
You can fit fighters and snubs in there as well.
So fighter wise, You can carry more then the idris with both in account.
Nothing says that has a big enough of a passage to put a ship through
Now lets talk about crew wise, jav has the capacity to hold 80-100 ish crew members.
If CIG didnāt say it, I donāt assume
@plush smelt Cargo port based on visual inspection is large enough to fit snubs atleast
I honestly donāt think you want to put snubs in place of supplies either
Fill in supplies, then fill with snubs,
It has more then enough space, based off what CIG said for supplies that you could sacrafice some for snubs.
I donāt agree, but we will see
Even if the Jav ends up carrying more by sacrificing cargo space, good for her
It has what??
I thought and hope it was decreased to 66 in 3 shifts of 22?
What do supplies even do?
Any images of this?
this?
i do love getting torched by the engines
you think they ever add that?
burn damage from thrusters
will they? probably
when? 10 years from now
Hold on. Where even is the cargo and where is it stored?
for which ship?
Are you saying you're an AEGIS Super Simp, but you don't know this about the AEGIS Javelin?

Javelin.
Yes. I didnāt even know it had a second hangar

Next youāll tell me it has a 3rd.

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Alright what we buying next boyos and girlos
Odyssey
Aegis Javelin!
Everything
Odyssey
nothing. i've pledged everything i currently plan to own 
need some new and interesting ships to open my wallet anymore
RSI Salvager.
its not really a second hanger, its a cargo port, But could be turned theoretically into a makeshift hanger. tight squeeze though
What I last spent before I nuked the account. If you want to know what happened, check this post: #iae-2955-hidden message
That's some wild stuff! So you lost all those pledges?
Yep, all pledges, all referrals, everything. The only thing that stayed was my support tickets, the fact that I have a UEE Record Number (Which changed upon re-registering) and my state I lived in.
So you were hacked?
From what I understand he thought he was hacked
But he was sick and probably on some meds so his mind went crazy
Ah, oky then.
Yeah, don't play with big money accounts while super sick. Your body is much more impressionable when you're out of it.
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Do ya'll think the idris will have another flash sale for Citizen Con, or for Invictus next year? I'd consider trying to get a cap ship next time
Typically IAE & ILW they will sell hull limited cap ships in waves
Gotchan, IAE and pray
they will most likely continue to sell the idris during IAE/ILW even after its released but it will most definitely get a price increase
a popular strategy for getting a hull limited ship is getting it in your shopping cart wave 1 and pressing buy the second wave 2 starts
How far apart are the waves?
8 hours
Meanwhile the parents are wondering why thereās a 2k unauthorized charge on their credit card š³ā¦.
My fleet pic and donāt worry we donāt post feet here
Nursaš¤¢
nursa is neat
I melted mine because I have a cutlass red in game and I am going to buy the C8R. Nursa is just a bit too big to fit in a lot of my ships at the moment.
Nursa sucks. No I will not elaborate.
ATLS is better
endeavour, 600i explorer polaris or idris is all im missing now i think
polaris or idris?
Yes
thanks bro
Polaris, it's soonerā¢
Guns upgunned to S7 right?
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S7 turrets would be disgusting (in all the right ways lmao)
Give em up!
whatās the whale thresholdš
$2500 or so.
im a bottlenose dolphin
Humpback Whale goes brrrt.
is that for raw ship value or actually money invested cause some of yall be pulling out massive savings on CCUs š but im a few hundred off grey
Usually invested number
Does make me curious, what kind of fleet savings do you guys have?
thatās what I thought thank you and mine are not great I was late realizing CCU chains were a thing
I'm newer to the game and missed the really crazy CCU jumps too
yeah itās unfortunate but weāre here now so it is what is, I havenāt been able to knock off anything crazy yet but iāve had pretty decent savings on some
Still a humback but if I could win a F5 war I might get into a "free" lightning range
far off from any free lightnings iām close to grey whale and I should be after IAE for sure but hereās what iāve got so far// planning to add vulcan,tali, med cargo/ert ship, and then something for mining
adding atleast 3 ships IAE
iād get a capital but I do not think iād be able to crew it effectively
Money.
$0. CCUing is for plebs.
Get a Javelin like me?
I donāt have 80 more friends to help thoš
65 actually.
I'm a Beluga
fair enough
well, if 60 people get a javelin, it costs as much as a mustang does
and the bonds of friendship ensure that it'll be able to fly
well, bounds... of money
my capital choices were gonna be idris/krak/pol/pioneer but yeah I agree if only going in with people on a ship would work like thatš
Humpback go brrrt.
Why won't my Zeus Trio pack show up in fleetviewer.
New fleet pic just dropped.
my inner cheap bastard is at war with my ship collecting lover of shiny things
i obsess over the loaner matrix and try and find ways to stretch what i put in for gameplay now
Buy a Javelin and don't look back.
pioneer, big E, and kraken tempt me, not so much the big war ships
ive got a fleet to patrol and protect an area, not singlehandedly start a war with some aliens
same, only the idris interests me for combat cap bc big gun go boom
Pioneer has no LTI. Praetorian pack or nothing. Endeavor will be the last ship ever made... So never. Kraken is ok but just a worse Javelin. It's deck is unshielded.
but you dont yell release the javelin do you?
the privateer kraken will be a better merchantman than the merchantman i think. lets people land
Yes for 3 times the price it better be
you could get it in a pack at least, and drake makes nothing but hitters lately
16 of my ships are from the convoy pack upgraded. hurts my savings but i could replace most of the chains at this point if i want to melt for it
iae plans and thoughts
Why get a pack when you can get most ships at 50% just by planning chains
I yell: āJavelin, Strike!ā And guess what? It actually does something!
canāt wait to fight one
yeah, if you want to start a war with the government or something lol
Me and my 8 S9 on my way to glass your continent:
And Iāll win too!
gonna need more than 1 jav š
but they also have javelins, an infinite supply of them
Iād win with 1.
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What if I attack the shipyard?
just split them between a bunch of polaris, probably more effective with a S10 torp volley than boxing out another jav š
and split the crew I mean
It has so much PD torps are a non threat.
judging by concept commercials, nothing will ever be as good as the latest concept
Jav is simply larger and better armed than the Polaris.
they will simply make a slightly shorter javelin mk 2 with 3 prongs later
promise kept and new money aquired
I know but is it larger and better armed than an equivalent amount of polaris and with crew equivalency I mean
now if those big forks worked like the vultures fragment mode and did a big resonate frequency kind of attack that would be sweet
That⦠is totally fine with me. No torpedos and itās smaller? Ok!
3 Polaris are still significantly less well armed than 1 Javelin.
It would be.
add atleast 1 even for polaris at max crew but at min crew 10 polaris should be worth much much more than 1 javelin with 60 dudes running around yelling at each other
atleast thatās what I imagine would happen on a jav with that many people
At min crew, Javelin operates at 20 as well. So thats 2 Polaris to 1 Javelin.
in the hour the javelin will take to turn around too that could be a lot of polaris torpedos
At what angle can a Javelin be flanked?
big guns are on the front right?
still 3 polaris to 1 jav ?
Nope, back. 360* firing ability though.
Nope. 10 X 2 = 20. Javelin just has much higher maximum.
6 is minimum crew on polaris? 6 x 3 is 18 which is 2 less than 20? the math aināt mathing big boy
I thought it was 10?
Javs min crew is around 22 and 10 = around half of 22.
6, max is 16
Max is 24. Thats a lie.
Source?
Is this pre engineering or something?
well idk what max is anymore you say 24, matrix says 14, and wiki says 16
matrix of lies
I assume 24. Add up the Bridge and turrets and add 2 for engineering. Then divide by 3 shifts for minimum crew.
jav says 12-65
22 - 66.
Hence why I included the +2 for engineering.
Jav has 17 gunners + 3 Bridge officers and 2 engineers.
ship has a train, you may need more than 2 on engineering during combat
Not Javelin??
well, minimum crew
Wait, since when does Javelin have a train?
Does it not? No Wonkavaitor or anything? Crew will need ptvs to get around that thing
Fellow whales. If you don't mind, please go to this thread and express disappointment with the "rumored" changes to Corsair removing 2 of the gun from pilot control. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/the-rumored-upcoming-changes-the-corsair/7227522
the jav doesnt have train but bengal does
and also retribution
This is from bengal SQ42 sneak peek
the jav is large dont get me wrong however its not expected for a ship that large to require a crew member to go from one end to the other
thats what having a large crew is supposed to do
there should pretty much always be someone around the important parts of the ship for engineering etc
kraken gets one too
does it?
it does
i cant wait to see kraken owners complain the tram dsynced and blew it up
That's... why I bought them.
On one hand, I want a train because choo choo. On the other hand, I don't because waste of space that could be better suited to other things... like more guns.
trains are never waste of space, and damn thought anything over a certain size would merit one
RSI ara ara <3
connie supremacy
I literally forgot this chat existed.
Poor. 
If I'm poor why do I own an Executive F8C Lightning? Trust me that's not a brag more of a shameful reminder.
Everything that ends in a C is bad.
Trust me there's worse things, I've seen your piloting skills.
Fight me!
Ahah you got muted
bought more ships at full price cause I donāt have the patience for ccus šš¼
Amen,
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Chris roberts would like to thank you for your service, citizen
shall i get idris or polaris (i dont have the crew for either)
I have a polaris with no crew lol
wellp... time for argo and another misc ship
i need to update my fleet view badly, missing like 4-7 new ships
nah its like freelancer+
tac is like a dropship/gunship hybrid
wit medical bay and snub, with vehicle storage
max is cargo
freelancer max+
and the BLD is for building bases
da fleet rn
Polaris.
same 
i kinda want both starlancers..
already got the max and if i dont like it a CCU to the TAC
now i want a pioneer tho.....
hopefully the fleetview sites will update with the new ships, probably after IAE i would assume
Do it
The one you're using said he has surgery so it takes a while.
Star jump will do a quick one tomorrow
More detailed version after IAE yes
idk what you'd use the TAC for ngl
it's a funny niche
and it needs alot of crew for what it does
I would pick an M2 or A2 for drop ship with medical facilities if you load up a c8r and/or nursa, still would have more room for vehicles than the TAC, carries more troops at either less or the same crew count
as for gunship, id pick redeemer even after it got nerfed, still does the job and with less crew
you could probably use an A2 or M2 for a gunship as well tbh
it's classic cig coming up with solutions for things that don't need solving
it's cool tho and I kinda want a tac
but I have to remind myself why I wouldn't be able to crew it and don't need it
it's so cheap and looks awesome tho
maybe with some good ccus I'll end up with one at IAE lol
that is why i only have an Orion as my biggest as i have people who are willing to pilot that with me
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It seems like a decent allrounder mission runner for friends, can decently clear ground targets with turrets or lightly defended air space, can decently heal injuries, has armor
if it had T2 beds or instead of dropships it had exploration capabilities, I could see it being much more useful
rn it doesn't seem like it sets out from the bunch
nice, if you got enough for an Orion you Def got enough for the tac
It would be weird for it to double dip and be a direct competitor with itself imo
yeah it would
I forgot about the odyssey
as for 600i well... it's luxury and likely expensive to maintain and weakly armoured, and the reworks shelved for now
but I suppose you can't have the tac just be better than the 600i
600i can carry a tank tho, or will be able to
I hope they all have insurance 
id pay to make my account bound ships to change from say 6 or 12 month insurance to LTI

granted i have a lot of LTI rn
Don't tell them that. All my ships already have LTI and I would like to stay that way.
Most lifetime. Lot of buying new ground vehicles and CCU up.
i am in my late 50's and realized that 10 year (once the game is finally out) is essentially LTI
I cannot wait for IAE to get here to finish it
small update, cursed myself with jpegs
Melt them down and grab a Javelin.
ew
but also i can
standalones all
what was jav. 3k?
Yup.
I can get 3 then, yay
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I keep jpegs in bb and i have enough ships there that I'll never crew so I won't
Ship naming is proof CIG is great at .JPEGs but not so much at .PNGs.
When life gives you carracks, donāt make carrackade, make life take the carracks back! GET MAD! I donāt want your goddamn carracks! Make life rue the day it gave cave johnson carracks!
Donāt you know who I am? Iām the man whoās going to burn your house down! With Carracks!
This you?
Carrack Johnson here

anyone have a clip/pic of terrapins armoured canopy?
Why?
cuz I wanna know what it looks like
I've never seen it
I didn't know it had one
I thought it was place holder like the carracks one
It's like Cutter
oh
Covers up the side windows
Idk I don't make ships
real
I thought of it more like a sun visor
i wish they would make the blast shields function like the fury mx blast shield. Whole glass is covered and you see through via camera system
Donāt they currently?
No
hi
Either you joined the game this month, or you really hate this project
Without funding, this game will be dead in a month
Everyone has their own standards
90 is a respectable start 
Whatās your recommended strategy to keep funding star citizen if Iām already funding board game developers with most of my available spending money?
Also there are some ships I want but canāt afford because of said board games.
And inviting friends to play them is expensive too.
I feel like I cannot give the star citizen pledge store the attention it deserves

This is whale chat, either you're going to spend at least 1k or just come here to troll
Buy at least one CCU or paint a month, subscribe as well

iāve been playing since like
2022? idk
imagine the new anvil large ship is a huge server rack data runner 

server with engines
yeah
Another herald basically

Computer strapped to an engine with a cockpit bolted on the front
I wonder if legionnaire will fit in the Polaris for boarding stunts

What a stupid comment
It's called a joke, but some people don't understand that
i tried that the other day and i was so surprised
so awesome
now to get the hottub working
fr
i checked out your perseus yesterday. that ship is fucking š„
starlancer is also quite nice. got me extra excited for odyssey if cig will ever start on that 
It's interior is kinda small though.
yeah i can see that. i got more lost in the carrack the first time i walked around it. polaris layout pretty simple
maybe it just made more sense
Wait what, How?
i am capital ship idiot and was checking out the polaris
f7a used to look so good
now it's paint is so ugly
I hope it's just a texture issue
Tell me more about this Perseus you speak of š
i already said i'm a moron and mixed up names 
When is someone considered a whale in sc termsš
$1000+ spend
Oh then I am probably a whale
probably? 
Oh, almost gold sniper level
I'm about to hit gold armor
I think
Nice!
chat if i hit 5k itās over
So in two weeks?
i said this last year tho
i got 500 store credits for corsair to nautilus
Yeah, I have $250 in store creds to fuck around with and am pretty much broke anyway.
because i have a naut to polaris
upgrade
i was thinking about getting the starlancer tac
with the corsair
and using my arrastra for the polaris
but iāll probably never use the tac
I love my Starlancer so far

thatās the budget rn
Guardian is not coming at IAE
as a concept? š„ŗ
bro
When they drop Pyro to LIVE on the last day before the holidays
i been waiting since december last year when first leak š
They already said at citcon that the Guardian wasn't for IAE but for later this year.
i assumed that just meant flyable release
1 year is nothing here...
for a hurricane sized ship IT IS
Hurricane? LMAO
Everyone said Vanguard sized
If it's a Hurricane size I'm not getting one
maybe iāll grab a tracker or ghost
yeah new leaks say cane size
1 person
living space instead of turret
2 S5 guns
i hope Qi is quantum interdiction
will be great for polaris
i think it only has one size two shield as well
which doesnāt look good
but we will see
could have 60 missiles 
vanguard competitor as long ranged escort fighter yeah
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grey whale post IAEš„³š¬
humpback after iae š
$2500.
nah 1k fr
5k now thatās a whale
I havenāt seen anyone here spending the 15k on that mega pledge which has everything in the game included
But I wouldnāt put it pass someone to do it hust to flex
itās 50k
not 15
thereās actually quite a bit of them as well
not necessarily here
but iāve seen a lot
theyāre out there
one person I know has spent that much, over the last decade or so. They mostly own multiple copies of every ship, since they CCU a lot
their fleet for reference
- bonus older pic of their fleet lol
The oceans have dried up because of this one Chad
fr
need to redo it ngl
like ship search bar
just add a search bar
all they need
also, generally speaking, that is a metric shitton of ships
more than you can use 
Why canāt Chris make owning an Idris more appealing
I donāt wanna wait until SQ42
We need a search bar in our hanger on the website too. Iām like 95% sure I have duplicates I canāt find.
ccugame and the hangar xplorer plugin
I might. Soonā¦
On mobile
95% or more of my SC gameplay is the pledge store nowadays lol. So I just buy stuff from my phone when itās up.
I downloaded the plug in and it turned my precious F7A MK2 into This! Abomination. What is wrong with it!?!
rip. don't have a suggestion to help that. both tools are very helpful and if duplicates or other management bothers you i'd advocate for checking on your desktop periodically to do a clean/organization session. i just did one last week to free up some credits for IAE and it would have taken much much longer to do without both of them
buh
heya
Whale
The mega pledge is 42k
It's 48k
48 now? Ayo
Sorry Iāve not pledged in 2 years lol
I only got half way š
Then realised hold up
I now have a house deposit worth of JPGs
Crazy when you think about it
so now its 3.24.3 the phoenix has PDCs right?
welp hit grand admiral before IAE i have 0 patience
So what sticks do us whales get
Still trying to decide between HOTAS or HOSAS. Iām too lazy to buy both and have to swap stuff around on the fly.
Hotas
all of them, of course
Right hand omnithrottle? that's a new take
I'm left handed
Can you do a HOSASAT kinda thing?
Throttle when needed kinda thing?
Trying to avoid having to disconnect and reconnect stuff depending on what Iām using in the moment
It's possible, that was a layout I looked into. Only restriction would be zeroing out the stick throttle for the actual throttle to be able to seamlessly takeover control, same as normal stick and mouse control of a ship
Hmm
I like throttle because it feels more immersive for big ship flying
I donāt usually dogfight much. And HOSAS is kinda dogfight oriented, I assume.
Maybe HOTAS would just be easier to go with and try. Can always get another stick.
Hosas is probably a lot more tactile though
I prefer HOSAS, even for big ship stuff. Polaris is a good example, it still feels nimble enough to gain benefits of an omnithrottle for strafing
Really?
Thatās good to know
I actually am only just looking into it recently, so Iām not totally sure what an omnithrottle is
Yeah, this is what that looks like, via Gunfighter (main stick) & Gladiator omnithrottle (from that picture above) #1116450833970774067 message
Damn thatās super smooth
Someone was recommending VKB I think? Saying something about them being just as good as virpil but half the cost.
But tbf Iām more about how it feels in hand than cost
I like a meaty, realistic feel. Seems like everyone around here is kinda virpil oriented.
The VKBs are pretty close to DSLR plastic if you've held one of those, the more expensive newer Virpils are metal.
Small hands, I would recommend VKB, larger hands, Virpil
I have medium, if you mean as far as finger and palm length/width.
You mean the sticks are metal or the base mechanicals are metal?
Wait⦠are VKB sticks themselves plastic??
The stick/grip itself, the internals on the Gunfighter are metal, Gladiator internals are plastic
You have triggers on yours?
Or do most people do the button triggers
Hmmm alright time to have a few drinks and make fiscally responsible decisions

For direct features there's a lot of options
This is my main stick (I only have the Mk III version): https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/gunfighter-iv-space-combat-edition-tabletop-left-hand (keep in mind this is left handed since that is my primary hand)
Secondary/throttle https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/gladiator-nxt-evo-omni-throttle-right-hand
I got the Virpil Alpha Primes for my wife, and I test drove them for a few months but they ended up far too big for my hands
I really need to look into sticks
But I worry about space and how flexible I could use them
Donāt want to mount them on the table
Anf maybe play from bed/couch
same
i donāt wanna have them on the table mounted
i want table top ones but idk which ones to get
and i wanna do HOSAM not have two
so idk whether itās worth it
i thought about gladiator premium
and put them on the table or smth but idk
theyāre expensive thing just for me to not like them
i wanna try them though, just donāt know which
Gladiator NXT EVO āSpace Combat Editionā - Left Hand The VKB Gladiator NXT EVO āSpace Combat Editionā is an ideal entry-level joystick for space or flight simulation pilots. It features a comfortable ergonomic grip suited for long gaming sessions and a compact design with an intuitive button layout for easy control. Th
these look like they have more buttons but no triggers
like on the base thereās like 3 buttons and 3 dials
tried using a voice mod pack once but it always got the command i said wrong or didnāt hear me at all 
cool in theory but that was the first and last piece of sim tech i used
the viral alpha primes are the really cool RGB ones that all the streamers/Youtubers use right?
they seem cool
but i think theyāre really expensive
the more i play the game the more i realise how annoying MNK is for flight, like its not awful and i donāt mind it but its never as precise as i want it to be
stick has way more control so
i want at least one stick but idk where to look
and then maybe a 2nd eventually
when i decided HOSAM isnāt quite what i like or something
but i think HOSAM will be nice aside from bind issues
not having enough buttons
@feral marlin it looks like the alpha primes have a weird disc clamp thing on the bottom is that a clamp for the desk or a base mount? seems like iād have to buy the stick and a mount
but i canāt tell
I have mine rail mounted on a sliding rail mounted under my desk.
thatās cool
they need a mount tho right? think i saw smth about mount not included
on the virpil ones
Pretty much, they are gigantic
I ordered them last year for the wife, they were only $1,000 shipped with their black friday discount
do they have many more buttons than VKBs?
iām looking for HOSAM not sure whatās best
need bindings i think
To run it on the cheap I would just get a Gladiator NXT EVO and use that as your primary, HOSAK is how I ran in Elite Dangerous for years until finally getting a Gladiator
Here's the full rail setup, with the VKB Gunfighter & Glad + SEM (old pic tho)
not worried about cheap just about HOSAM, i think ll much prefer it
is the gunfighter better than gladiator?
itās way more expensive
Yep, the Gunfighter is comparable to Virpil offerings
ah i see
is it big?
my hands arenāt huge
I wear medium gloves at work
might be a struggle to use virpil
The left stick in this photo is a Gunfighter, the middle two are the Virpil Alpha Primes, the right stick is a Gladiator NXT EVO #1116450833970774067 message
The VKB grips are the same size lol
it looks so much bigger
how is the gunfighter more premier?
like on the base the gunfighter has nothing
Gimbal construction and precision
huh what does that mean
better accuracy?
It's a full metal gimbal vs the plastic gimbal design of the cheap Gladiator base
I've had these (Gladiator) for like 6 4 years with no issues though but I am not super rough on my sticks, over maybe ~3,000 hours or so
https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/633472896315949091 might be able to help more though, hardware isn't my main focus
oh i see so itās more durable
should I fold and get the BMM as my capital?
You could. But it's gonna take a while. Even the Kraken will be out sooner.
thatās what iāve been hearing, is that what CIG has said? the BMM still just seems so good
It might be good... in the far future.
Phoenixs are still available if anybody wants one. They have been like that for an hour now.
i wish pioneers were available
Soon. I might buy one. If only for buybacks.
that's kinda crazy. wonder if it's because of what got said on the iae show about new mk5 vs rework. even though what was said seemed to lean rework
What is the difference? What is Mk5? I think it needs a rework.
it would be a new release instead of a rework
it definitely needs an update
i'll be livid if they do a new ship instead of fixing this aging mess
mk4 is the generation that is in the game
yeah i know
and there's a trillion variants too
because reasons
there was an upgrade path if you had a mk1 pledged?
wonder what they'd do with the phoenix
one of my favorite ships (hence my pfp)
oh yeah that was the overdrive thing
phoenix is still here 
definitely leaning on rework, but yeah its likely due to it.
I meant Phoenix.
i know
and i said the phoenix is still not out of stock unless it got refilled
nvm its not getting restocked til 2 more hours
Still??
right here
maybe more people are interested in the 600i touring by now given the eventual rework
It has been forgotten about. And remember: "If it hasn't been sold, It doesn't exist!"
if ya look at the back of connie it says mk4 meaning a mk2 for connie will be mk5
i think that was cuz chris wanted them to be like classic cars and they completely redone them for squadron
however they may have realised since then
selling the same ship twice instead of reworking it
makes more money
which is really sad and scummy to do if they go this route
predatory business type
like canāt yāall just go back and fix your work?
no need to just slap a new interior in an existing ship and change the exterior a bit taking time from the backlog for an ez cash mk2
cuz i know weād complain about it but us mfs still stupid enough that weād buy it 
yk damn well iād get a phoenix mk2/mk5 instantly after complaining like hell about it on spectrum
happens every time
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all i want rn is an idris guardian Qi and super hornet 2
letās keep it that way yeah
(i had idris in payment then had some serious thoughts about finances ima leave it until ILW)
iām glad i didnāt cuz im spending allot of money on friday
i woulda been IN DA SHIT if i got one
i aināt missing out on a new car to practice welding for sc 
and christmas presents for everyone
saved way too long for dis
for the hornets a mk2 made sense, they were really outdated and in lore you donāt just slightly alter the old model you usually redesign it
like what if someone preferred the older hornets
but for interior reworks it shouldnāt be a brand new ship
makes sense that youād do a mk2 for a navy fighter but not for a connie phoenix for example
we're on Mk IV already >_>
I'm kinda tempted to get the phoenix
I looked at it at IAE and it's pretty nice
I honestly like it more than all the origin ships 
but it doesn't really serve any use other than maybe bounties and drug hauling
i picked one up too, keep it in buyback till the rework
if the dampened cargo is actually useful for that
you know what, fuck it
concierge, here I come
its CR favorite ship so its going to be nice... eventually
wait, I should probably buy a WB with that money first.
what's the next best WB I can buy for the connie phoenix?
starlancer TAC 
and Intrepid
pheonix cant be ccud
yes, I'll get a CSV and TAC
then melt them and buy the phoenix as iris taught me 
can't melt for 24h
ffs
i know but if they sold mk5 as a new ship
well, I'm concierge now but I won't be able to get the phoenix because I can't melt my starlancer TAC 
fml, I'm leaving
I just hopped on 4.0 to check it out and it's pretty nice tbh. Hot tub still isn't real seats though but at least it opens
What was wrong with the dining table?
It didnāt raise up
Oh that table I thought you meant the Phoenix dining room table
Yeah the crew one
š„š„š„
now we need water tech for the hot tub instead of empty
Damn I just checked mine and still no update

scam game
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I'm ready for wave 3, hopefully I can snag a credit Kraken - even though I'm WBing one at ILW2955
yeah i donāt get service in the cellar at work
Fair
i have given up on save stantion and IAE academy
id rather just buy those guns outright at this point
ships do not spawn for phases 1-2
same for cargo
do a ticket for academy. it's my only hope for it. it's beyond broken for me. i've done everything except the tutorial and have only gotten a single stamp
i have done 2 BH certs, i have mined in prospector AND by hand
stuck with 2 stamps
if you see people making a fuss on spectrum (yuck btw) add to it
both events are so poorly implemented and afterthoughts
hopefully they change the metric for how things are awarded
like. i don't blame them 4.0 is and should be the focus
but still
i have tried to do phases 1-2 for 2 weeks, i am burnt out
both solo AND with friends, only my friends seems to have normal spawning of ships
ill just throw $25 at each of these event rewards at this point.
which is me assuming the value relative to what is in the store

you need to sell the mined stuff at admin
or refine it if it's ore
yeah.. i did that, even when it didnt say how far you need to go in terms on mining for the event

hi
Ugh aight sign me up, i just hit concierge
managed to get a pioneer, came with free f8c

Congrats 
Good morning my fellow friends hope youāre having a Whale of a time today!
I just noticed that after IAE I ended like this 
2% more
I just reached that on the last day from the WB ccu's
Still don't have my gold armor...
Same, hit wing commander and no lightning yet. I'm trying to be patient and haven't put in a ticket yet. And only refreshing my hangar page 20 times a day
Same
But distribution of anything is trash right now
BiS stuff
IAE Academy stuff
It's a clusterfuck
i'm still so far away from space marshal. can't decide if it's worth it
probably not for now
since it's just a suit

I'm a small whale myself now <_<
and I'll get the next level next year, most likely
Guys, i swear, Winwing EU wharehouse uses some shitty delivery service 
They say DHL but in reality i think they abduct a 60yo, dress him with a yellow jacket with DLH written with a red marker, put the package on his bike and send him to your house without even a GPS. This shipment will take forever 
the fuck is a winwing?
they make flight sticks

well sim gear
but same shite
fleet costs more than my hardware tho like a real rat š š
Wing Commander?? Space Marshal??
That. Same thing. Space Marshal Yet?
Has 'Legatus Navium' always been at $25k?
Looking at my historical spending this past week and I realized I havenāt really been whaling since Invictus last year
Has IAE and ILW really been that bad for that long

Is this a skill issue

Yes.
Yes.
Yeah... i dont think ill make it to $25k, 20k yes, but that is probably about it considering i have pretty much everything I could evern want to fly
i had mistaken Legatus Navium being at $20k
winwing wait time is worth it though. still have my f16 setup from them
I hope so, went full crazy and bought their full hotas set + pedals 
worth it
I'll keep my left nxt evo for space sim tho
Only 1200 with a coupon 
WB is 1300, MSRP is 1500
Kit is 250 WB, MSRP 300
if I melt my hanger, barring the exclusive ships, ill get 933 usd
I need another 567 usd 
- another 250 for the K kit
yea I dont think I can 
sorry whales, cant join u that high 
I have a TAC and Arrastra coming in the works 
Realistically, $1500.
K is a necessity.
Tac is bad. Arrastra seems decent.
The only miner with a decent style.
maybe ill just get an Idris in game 
Arrastra should get me there somewhat 
realistically id be shelling out 1,185
if I want to keep the current ships i have and put in on the K
if the polaris is any indication, you'll be just fine not getting an idris and flying someone elses
then you can go whaling on your own smaller ships
real
I can put the whaling on the eventual f8a event 
im still getting a ccu chained TAC and arrastra tho
only reason I want one is cuz of the bigger hangar
you def belong in whale club
im not whale enough 
Yea ill just whale on an f8a event
Ask support to melt my Polaris if I have to
i meant if you're getting a capital ship just for the larger hangar you belong here 
I have a Polaris 
Im considering melting that and a couple of other ships to fund for an Idris 
Cuz yes, for the bigger hangar 
Im still 500 short if I do and im not melting the f7a 
if you melt everything to get an idris just for the bigger hangar then why do you need the bigger hangar 
The remaining f8 and f7 in my hangar 

Thats 2 of 3 slots in the Idris 
speaking of the idris. don't you live on an idris in squadron 42
i'm looking forward to that. walked around on one of the stolen ones. it's pretty sweet setup
U would have finished flight academy and got your gladius 
Ill just soak up the idris experience in sq42 
Do they have data on how many Idris have been pledged?
ofc
why wouldn't they
if they don't then i have serious questions about the outlook for this project
Ah then the next question is, can we see that data? 
I have some older, unreliable data on that - mostly outsider tracking, nothing internal (of course)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13097-Idris-Corvette-Revealed - Original Kickstarter reference, 100 Idris-M in circulation and only a few remaining giftables (that shouldn't still be giftable.)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13396-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Livestream-Sale - 100 Idris-P - This also marks one of the first references for why there is a $1,000 gift limitation - FinCEN regulations
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14386-Idris-Frigate-Gallery - Another batch of Idris-P - 50 each, 4 total batches, so 200 Idris-P
There's also at least 200 Javelin from initial sale at $2,500 - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14314-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Sale - hilarious notes on this one: "It's not the ultimate battleship for players hwo can afford it, Javelins will be sold stripped of hardware" - this has been reneged as of ~5 years ago via numerous support messages
- This also included the hilarious: "Weāre using the assortment of Javelin destroyers to subsidize discount packages for new players: 200 Javelins means we can make 5,000 $20 Aurora game packages available for sale at the same time!"
(as if there is some actual physical scarcity involved in these)
Moving forward in time, for later limited sales references, look to the Pioneer, initial sale at Citcon 2017:
- 2000 Concierge Presale (down to ~20 left at final hour)
Non Citcon waves: - 800 of 1000 WB sold
- 1000 of 1000 credit sold
- Citcon reserved stockpile: 200-700 of 1000 sold?
Attached additional images for reference on stock quantity numbers, we have seen them as recent as earlier in 2024. Would be safe to say that a minimum of 100-200 of each hull are thrown up (variable depending on price) to as high as 1000+ per sale. Most are sold twice a year.
ohhh
maybe its just unrealistic for to get one in my country's economy 
i would love to know how many that individuals have via alt accounts
@placid stone you get your gold armor yet? still waiting on my lightning
someone told me to log in the game and it would show up. that did the trick
i just hadn't logged on after finishing the save Stanton buggy mess, it was in my hangar in game and when i alt tabbed it was in my website hangar
Where LTI Pioneer??
my top hat and monocle arrived in game before my hangar updated
Whale then
Hell no. Praetorian Pack is better.









