Whale Club

[orchid shadow]

but it will probably increase the use of eclipse/tali to counter it aswell

JT meta will change

[slim gulch]

Indestructible, blast resistant, Stainless Steel, Meant to last for 50 years, lighter weight than a folding chair.

[supple fog]

... i think your just delulu from now on.... you get the P and then you get the K upgrade kit what is 24/7 365days a year in your shop....

i just block you from now on, people who cant accept facts even if there are black on white infront of them annoy me

also its stated as industrial ^^

i just want my mini bengal

carryer for combat

ships parked inside

then im happy with my fleet

[slim gulch]

Perhaps they will sell a Pegasus?

[slim gulch]

Is it actually? I thought it was limited too only 100 and they were fast approaching running out?

[supple fog]

and you call yourself whale... god i hate people

[orchid shadow]

K is offered with LTI 24/7 infinite stock once you buy idris p

it even has a warbond deal during ILW

[supple fog]

other way around i think

warbond 24/7

and store credit is only in may and november on sale

[orchid shadow]

^

you right

[supple fog]

^^

alpha whale

[fallen oar]

So yes it is industrial, But it is the closest thing we have to a poor mans carrier.

[supple fog]

i just want the mini bengal

there is like a light version of the normal bengal

[fallen oar]

I mean, they showed a bunch of different versions of the bengal chassie in the sqd 42 vid

[supple fog]

exactly

[fallen oar]

Poss one of them is a scaled down bengal as a battleship?

For a buyable ship

would be

amazing

and I'd splurge on it

[supple fog]

in size between javelin and idris

would be perfect

make it tanky and just some weapons, not a lot

then you can deploy and store ships mid fight if you have some helping ships around it

and gimme my medical javelin

or a module to lock quantum in a giant range

[orchid shadow]

i think the scaled down bangal is still bigger then jav

[supple fog]

idm

make it 4k then

i will buy it

[orchid shadow]

it looks like they only removed some turrets to make room for more hangar space and some thrusters

but yeah the bengal mini carrier looked dope

[supple fog]

but since they said already, javelin is the biggest ship what a player can buy

prob similar size

[orchid shadow]

ive heard conflicting news on that

did they say it was the current largest ship players can buy or the largest ship players can buy

ive heard both

[supple fog]

as far as i know they said it will be

so prob nothing bigger

[orchid shadow]

CIG cant make their minds up tho so i wouldnt be shocked if they made something larger then jav buyable

[supple fog]

or maybe its the price

mini bengal for 2.9k i would buy it too xd

[orchid shadow]

i would think about it

[supple fog]

i would yeet the kraken

[orchid shadow]

it would def be something cool to have but not being able to land on planets is a turn off for me

[supple fog]

you get used to it

[orchid shadow]

😂

[supple fog]

NOT

since they said space station would be possible with pioneer later idm that

i would love to build a giant ass space station

above my planetary base

[slim gulch]

??

[slim gulch]

Really?!?

[slim gulch]

May I have a source on this?

[orchid shadow]

to clarify

[fallen oar]

I mean from my understanding and research is they stated we will be able to take control of space stations

[orchid shadow]

they did not say pioneer could make space stations

[fallen oar]

Not build em

[orchid shadow]

however they did say they were exploring what else the pioneer could build to make it feel more like a capital construction

and at a bar citizen a dev mentioned pioneer building small space station iirc

[fallen oar]

Huh that would be interesting

Maybe Pioneer is required to assist in repairing a bengal?

[orchid shadow]

pioneer cant do repair

however it may be able to construct turrets and such to replace broken ones on bengal we will just have to see

[slim gulch]

I was only told about ground bases and heard that players would not be able to build or control space stations.

[slim gulch]

Would it also be able to build small space ships?

[orchid shadow]

previously they said no to space stations however it seems that now since they are actually working on base building they are trying to figure out what building should be classified as XL and what to let pioneer make to make is stand out

[orchid shadow]

i doubt it would be able to build ships

[orchid shadow]

this is where they hinted at it possibly being able to build space stations at citizencon

since theres not really anything else to build in space other than space stations

[slim gulch]

Ooh! Very nice!

[orchid shadow]

personally the fact it opens up in the middle and is hollow makes me believe it would be pretty realistic for it to be able to make sections of a space station and another ship like the SRV can connect the sections

still no idea as to why it has that weird side extension

would have made more sense for half of it to slide out to expand the area in the middle

[signal folio]

it seems likes its a printer

and it prints sideways

[fallen oar]

LOL yes

Printing out a perseus 😛

[fallen oar]

Ngl, I want the titan to comeout.. I want mechs XD

[slim gulch]

This. Probably for the larger structures.

[covert rampart]

What ccu should I get to C2

Glaive
Endeavor
Crucible

[tranquil fable]

I want a bagel carrier

[steep bane]

whichever you get the cheapest

[lost nimbus]

You guys think we'll get any perks for Sq42?

[signal folio]

[unborn drum]

16

Only if you buy the kit

Otherwise it is the P

[supple fog]

There is no reason not to buy

[slim gulch]

My main qualm is that even though I’m a whale, $1,300 is still a lot for a ship which doesn’t even come fully armed.

[supple fog]

If you buy a idris, at this point those 300 for a k kit wont mather anymore

Anf you want the K kiz

[unborn drum]

Well if you can afford $1,300 on a .png I don’t think you’re hurting for $300…. Plus would you rather them not sell it and only sell the P and force people to spend a minimum of $15,000 to guarantee an Idris M?

[native crag]

i mean, by the time you hit 15k, ,that pack there gets you like everything almaost, so then its no point having theP anyway, im working on reaching 8k so i can sell most of my ships and buy that pack to get the Idris P in a pack and just change some of the ships i dont want lol

[supple fog]

Aegs comp pack?

[native crag]

No, the Dominus pack

if you take that in store creds, its only 6,400$, that aint too bad

[supple fog]

Comp pack is like 8.5 k i think

[unborn drum]

On WB

[supple fog]

And yiu have a jav in aswell

[native crag]

yes thats true

[unborn drum]

it’s 8.9K credit

IIRC

[native crag]

but thats just Aegis ships, im mainly an industrial kinda guy,, ill not use the Idris for combat, so i wont even buy the big gun for it, im using it as a transport/heavy medical,, generally an all-arounder ship where i store other ships inside to do my buisniss

[unborn drum]

Idris P would work fine

[supple fog]

Good plan

[unborn drum]

IMO

[native crag]

currently got the Tycoon pack which i upgraded to more of my liking,, the Polaris is just because i like the looks of it,, also gonna use it as a medium cargo runner when pyro comes as then i will be able to defend myself aswell without a massive fighter escort

[unborn drum]

Nice

I got the Aegis Comp Pack, Convoy Pack, and several other one offs

But I already have the Convoy Pack heavily modified

[native crag]

Nice

[supple fog]

I only have explo and vip vehicle

[hardy oxide]

I just have a PTV

[orchid shadow]

how did you get a hull a in there wasnt it a hull C

[native crag]

the HUll C i swapped for the Arrastra i belive, and the HUll A i got ffor swapping the car thingy

[sudden vessel]

car thingy

doesent even know the vehicles

[hardy oxide]

imagine not having a PTV buggy

smhsmh

[swift halo]

URSA Rover

[native crag]

Ahh yes thats the one

[native crag]

i didnt pay attention,, i looked at it, saw it was a ground vehicle,, instantly changed it xD

[sudden vessel]

Understandably pledging for a ground vehicle in a space game …

[native crag]

Honestly,, i just dont like ground vehicles in this game, they feeel,,,, weird,,, the tanks are like driving on ice and terrible arcadey, the vehicles act mental,,, i love the game,, but i rather walk than drive any of them lmao

[sudden vessel]

also you can just get in a ship and do the same stuff a land vehicle does... faster

[native crag]

exactly, if the ground vehicle actually gets nice to drive,,, then yes, i'll gladly buy them, but til then? eh,,,, i have no reason too,, maybe when the Apollo comes, i'll have somethingin there so i can use to get to bunkers whenever muppets die in bunkers and need aid

[slim gulch]

It’s the concept that matters!

[unborn drum]

Okaaaaay? So then you would be fine then with them selling an Idris K for $1,550

It’s the fact that you have the OPTION to upgrade it

That is what upsets you

[slim gulch]

Yes. Something irrationally pisses me off about having to pay $1,300 for something not even fully functional. I know I shouldn’t be but I am!

[supple fog]

Its fuly functional what you mean

[slim gulch]

I prefer a Hammerhead over it. It’s too big with too few weapons for my taste and it doesn’t have secondary function.

[ember yew]

Hammerhead doesn’t have a hangar or a gun range

[supple fog]

also a hammerhead wont do shit against a idris P

[slim gulch]

don’t they currently shred Idrises? The Hammerhead is significantly smaller and is more compact while holding a lot of guns. The Idris isn’t good for much but shooting at smaller ships and the Hammerhead can fill that roll but better. Yes, it doesn’t have a Hangar but that is a minor inconvenience when jt costs half as much.

[supple fog]

current is not when the idris comes out for us. There will be Armor and yeah your s4 on your hammerhead wont do dmg to a capital ship

its ment to kill light/medium fighters

you aint gonna kill a idris with that

a perseus could kill one if the have good pilots and know how to fight

since thats anti cap ship

[slim gulch]

And so is the Idris P right? It doesn’t have many Anti Capital ship guns.

[supple fog]

a hammerhead is not a capital ship

[ember yew]

Subcap corvette

[slim gulch]

I know. But both Hammerhead and Idris P are meant to kill fighters. Right??

[ember yew]

Idris p is a civilian variant what they do with that is up to them

[slim gulch]

It doesn’t do very much. It’s nice to have variety but it seems… like the framework for a ship.

[supple fog]

i mean you still have s5 guns you gonna kill a perseus prob

[slim gulch]

Then… why not just buy a much smaller Perseus?

[ember yew]

It’s an allrounder, it’s got a hangar, sizeable cargo space, it’s not nearly as much a frontline brawler as the m but can hold its own

[supple fog]

14x s5 + 8x s4 prob will still kill a lot of ships up to perseus size

[slim gulch]

I generally consider S5 worse than S4 because slower velocity. S6/S7 is where it starts to get good again.

[slim gulch]

You mean P? Also, while its hangar is nice, I don’t think anybody is going to use this for cargo hauling.

[ember yew]

Perseus is a dedicated gunship that’s smaller than a hammerhead, you pick a Perseus over an Idris because you don’t want a hangar or cargo space you only want to be doing combat

[supple fog]

i know a few ^^

[ember yew]

M is more of a frontline brawler than a p

[supple fog]

k is scout

fast and still hits hard

[ember yew]

And cargo space doesn’t mean just hauling you’ll be putting ship parts and equipment there too

[slim gulch]

But this means that the Idris P is mediocre at doing everything doesn’t it?

[supple fog]

there wont be a better ships for "save" cargo

[ember yew]

It’s almost like a jack of all trades is a master of none

[slim gulch]

BMM. >_<

[supple fog]

ist a shop

[slim gulch]

That is also very good at holding more cargo than similarly sized dedicated cargo ships.

[ember yew]

similarly sized cargo ships
The hull c and hull d? What else is a similarly sized cargo ship? A kraken?

[supple fog]

nothing will beat a Hull E tho on Cargo

needs protection tho

[ember yew]

Ye

[slim gulch]

Hull C and Kraken, yes.

[ember yew]

One is a mall, one is a dedicated transporter, and one is an allrounder

[slim gulch]

So why can the mall hold the most while being the smallest??

[ember yew]

Mall holds the least what?

Kraken holds 3.5k hull c holds 4k

Bmm holds 2880

[slim gulch]

Wait, really??

[ember yew]

Hull c is smaller as well

By a significant amount too

[slim gulch]

Ah, oky. My bad.

[supple fog]

thast the right list

[ember yew]

What is it in the order of

[supple fog]

combat

[ember yew]

M, k, Polaris, p , Naut, hammerhead

Why’s the Naut over the hammerhead?

Much more niche of a role

[supple fog]

just look at the weapons of a naut

[ember yew]

I mean it’s got s7 or s8 on the nose and mines, idk what else it got

[slim gulch]

Nooooo!!!!
Javelin > Polaris > Idris M > Idris K > Idris P > Perseus > Hammerhead > Nautilus.

[supple fog]

your a delulu like always

[slim gulch]

I speak the truth and nothing but the truth. You just wait until I Polaris your Javs in the tail.

[supple fog]

what you do there?

my 2x quad s9 turn aroun dXd

[slim gulch]

Launch torpedos and run away before they can.

The torpedos have a longer range as well.

I don’t even have to get shot at.

Did… my video just upload? I posted that at least 10 minutes ago.

[supple fog]

and fly slower then a aurora

and your really focuse on your shit torps

i gonna tell you now again

slowly

that your brain might understand it

A

POLARIS

Will

NEVER

EVER

[slim gulch]

X to doubt.

[supple fog]

Beat

a Javelin in a 1v1

[supple fog]

dude a s9 already flys slower then that

[ember yew]

Bro got hit by a s9 once and now thinks torps are invincible

[slim gulch]

As if I would 1 v 1 a Javelin. Get in, drop torps, get out. Or on the opposite end of things, 4 Polaris (same price and crew as 1 Javelin) would definitely massacre a Javelin.

[slim gulch]

S5 from Prison but same thing. And they just never stop tracking either.

[ember yew]

Then shoot it down, they’re slow as fuck

[supple fog]

s9 is already slower then a fucking javelin

i just gonna outrun your torps

and dont say nah i shot them from 1km range

your dead before you reach the 1km

[slim gulch]

Single crewed 400i at max boost with crew still getting to the turrets.

[ember yew]

In atmo

[slim gulch]

Good luck getting up to speed.

[slim gulch]

Yup.

[ember yew]

Max boost 400i on Hurston isn’t max boost 400i in space

Big difference

[supple fog]

you think i will sit just around doing nothing in my javelin? ofc i fly around

[slim gulch]

The missiles are surely also slower??

[supple fog]

bro

you see that

250m/s

[ember yew]

Missile speed is same in atmo and space

[slim gulch]

S what torp?

[supple fog]

9

and your s10 will be even slower

[slim gulch]

Does the Polaris get special torp.

[supple fog]

ffs no

why should it

then my javelin gets special s12 torps aswell

[slim gulch]

To be competent. How do current torps work?

[supple fog]

[supple fog]

like normal torps

[slim gulch]

Doesn’t it??

[supple fog]

bro you know nothing ffs geta outa here

[slim gulch]

I thought it gets special Cruise Missiles?

[slim gulch]

[supple fog]

Javelin has shit load of guns TWIN s7 with TWIN s4 on top and 2x QUAD s9 with 32 S12 Torps

you are not gonna kill that

in a 1v1

even with 4 polaris

you gonna have a hard time

if you spam 4 polaris all 4 s10 missle maybe 2-3 hit if the gunners dont do their job by shooting them down

and when you try to get close to shoot with your turrets on my javelin

my s7/9 will already shoot you from miles away

and no dont tell nah i doge that with my speed

your still a 160m long target

[slim gulch]

Will armor ricochets ever be in game?

[supple fog]

and i have 26 s7 ready for you

and 4 s9

[supple fog]

what has that to do with that?

dude you still take dmg

[slim gulch]

Ballistics might ricochet off.

[slim gulch]

Not denying it. Just saying Polaris will be effective.

[supple fog]

javelin has stock laser

[supple fog]

if you bring 5-10 maybe

torps are a joke

and that video is just fomo for polaris

[slim gulch]

Unless they hit.

[supple fog]

nobody gonna watch the torps hit his ship

[supple fog]

s12 hits you then

oho

how the turntables

(left javelin - right polaris)

also dont forgett ma shield

Armor

Also Javelin is a Destroyer

it just looks at your polaris and it will be dead

[slim gulch]

How much worse than C is L??

[supple fog]

a lot

[slim gulch]

Jav shields bad. Plus, isn’t Javelin weapon layout bad? Broadside guns? This isn’t the 18th century any more. Polaris can focus its firepower forward.

[kindred yacht]

Tbh i think the comparison in unfair. Two different class of ships and anyways none of them will go around alone so it's kinda pointless to judge an hypotetical 1v1

[supple fog]

he thinks he win

[slim gulch]

I will!

Does Javelin even have PDTs?

[bold coyote]

Meh Kraken better 🥱

[supple fog]

s4 shield

[slim gulch]

[supple fog]

s3 shield

[supple fog]

dude

i have 26 s4

player controlled

your torps aint gonna hit

[fallen oar]

Yall gotta stop arguin with Brist, we already know hes delulu and doesn't listen to logic LOL

[slim gulch]

Real or meme?

[signal folio]

fax tho

[ember yew]

ReAl Or MeMe?

[bold coyote]

Looks legit

[slim gulch]

r/StarCitizenRefunds couldn’t figure it out and neither could I.

[ember yew]

Explain to me a plausible way to own 6 javelins at once

As far as I know, you can own one from winning an f5 war, one from the 48k pack

[fallen oar]

I see three javs

not 6

or 7

But not 6

[slim gulch]

7??

[slim gulch]

Buying 2 Javelins per year at each event??

[ember yew]

I’m talking about Brist’s picture. Mine was a shitpost

[supple fog]

You can have javelins from:

May f5 war

Concept sale

November f5 war

52k pack

[fallen oar]

Legit

7 javs

in that pictyre

[supple fog]

Aegis comp pack

Referall

[fallen oar]

2 left, 5 right

[supple fog]

You can have 6

Idk if the old wing commamder pack had another in

[fallen oar]

Yes, im just talkin about the picture LOL

[supple fog]

If yes you can have 7

[ember yew]

There’s two glaring red flags on the legitimacy of that picture tho

[supple fog]

Wich one?

[ember yew]

1. source was refunds subreddit

2. anyone can use that tool and make a massive fucking fleet, it takes a hangar screenshot to prove

[supple fog]

True

[ember yew]

The pic with 7 javelins that calibrim posted

[supple fog]

Inknow

If the old wing commander pack has a javelin you can have 7 tho

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[supple fog]

Idk

I was thinking about a 3th tho

And idk why tho

[unborn drum]

Each IAE and Invictus you can get one

So twice a year

You win F5 war

[ember yew]

I thought it was account locked, you can only own one iae one

[supple fog]

Yeah but only once

[ember yew]

And one Invictus one

[unborn drum]

Well each IAE and Invictus is a different year

So

[supple fog]

No

[unborn drum]

It’s a “different” ship

[supple fog]

Even if you get a jav last nov, you cant get one this nov

I couldnt get a pioneer, because i got one 3 years ago in nov

And yes buyback counts too

[slim gulch]

Hence why I’m wondering if real or fake.

[ember yew]

I’d need to see a picture of the hangar to believe it’s true

It came from the refunds subreddit

[unborn drum]

I had 2 at point

[ember yew]

That’s just a ragebait circlejerk

[unborn drum]

Still have them in my buyback

[supple fog]

I have 2 aswell, i prob get a 3th

[unborn drum]

3th?

[ember yew]

3th

[supple fog]

Aegis comp pack

[unborn drum]

3rd?

[supple fog]

Second idris k and a 3th jav. So i can put ships in the pack togetjer

[ember yew]

Thirth javelin for hith thtar thitithen fleet

[supple fog]

Just look at it

You cant say no

[ember yew]

We’re making fun of you, it’s third so 3rd, not 3th

Don’t mind us

[supple fog]

[ember yew]

[supple fog]

crab not allowed to hire a jav from me

[unborn drum]

This guy gets it

[ember yew]

[supple fog]

[ember yew]

[unborn drum]

He can hire from me

EZ profits

[supple fog]

Could downsize again a bit and put ships into the aegis comp pack

[ember yew]

Valk liberator

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-the-simpsons-drooling-drool-gif-12505153

[supple fog]

I love it so much

Cant wait for the shield upgreade and armor

[ember yew]

It’s such a good looking ship but I can’t warrant the price tag on the normal, let alone the liberator

I’ll try to win one or sumn

[slim gulch]

Off centered Bridge.

[supple fog]

Im okey with that when i have a deployable quad s9 turret ^^

In top and bottom ^^

[fallen oar]

Ngl, Nautalis looks sexy

deploying turrets instead of mines,

could be super helpfuk

helpful

Like in support of a jav,

Would be devestating

[cunning shoal]

I cant wait to find out what helpfuk is

[fallen oar]

Its help fuk, It is the assistance of fuk u

[cunning shoal]

wow i thought it was gonna be funny

[signal folio]

[cunning shoal]

KEK ME KEK YOU NONF8COWNER

[signal folio]

imagine getting mad

for getting keked at

[cunning shoal]

lmao imagine being in the KEK hall of fame for that exact thing

[signal folio]

[slim gulch]

Top and bottom or just 1 that moves between.

[supple fog]

I place them around my space station

[supple fog]

2, 1 top 1 bottom with 4 s9 cannons

And they can move inside the ship in the back on rails like scorpius if not needed to protect them

[slim gulch]

But how am I supposed to torp your main battery?

[supple fog]

And if i need more dudes or ships i can deploy a redeemer out of the jav hangat

[supple fog]

Never since the torps wont reach me with like 200m/s when i fly more then 200m/s and have 26 s4 guns to shoot at them close and 26 s7 guns to shot on them from range

Give up and accept that a 160m long scout ship wont win against a 400m long main destroyer of a whole fuvking race

[slim gulch]

S7 and S4 guns aren’t going to be very capable.

[slim gulch]

Sigh.

Fine. The Polaris may not beat a Javelin but it still beats everything else.

[supple fog]

On a bigger target then a aurora ? What flys as slow as a reclaimer in atmo ? oh i think they will be very effective

S10 are huge

[slim gulch]

Against a Torpedo.

[slim gulch]

Give torpedos shields!

[supple fog]

Perfect you accepted facts. Now we just need to let you accept it that it wont solo a idris too.

Polaris is better tho with less people

[slim gulch]

Yes it will and I cannot be convinced otherwise! You are delulu if you think it cant!

[supple fog]

Dont forgett idris is way faster/better against smaller stuff (your torps)

And hase way more point defense

Then the jav

And its main weapon (s10) has a higher range then the s9 of the kav

[fallen oar]

^

Just stop havin this debate with him XD hes trollin

[supple fog]

The sad truth is, hes not

And i love to talk about big ships

So win win xd

[slim gulch]

Faster than Polaris or Faster than the Torps?

[fallen oar]

Both

[supple fog]

Faster then torps 100%

Not faster then polaris but wont have issue tracking you with s10 if your not close (what you wont survive)

[slim gulch]

S10 what Railgun?

[fallen oar]

From my understanding, the Idris has a higher max speed then most if not all ships rn,

slow start up but when at max it outruns everything

Thats also current, and well could change later when fully implemented in player hands

the idris railgun

or mass driver

[supple fog]

S10 laser beam or s10 mass driver

Thats what you will use for combat

A P wont be used for just combat

Thats just a cargo ship with some defense, what needs dome other ships next to it

[fallen oar]

Yep

[slim gulch]

Large ships were originally planned to be the fastest.

[slim gulch]

Not enough cargo, too much crew.

[supple fog]

But way more armor and protection then normal cargo ships

P is used for high value item transport

[slim gulch]

It’s so big and doesn’t hold very many items for its crew count. What would be high value but small enough to warrant an Idris P?

[fallen oar]

I mean the cargo hold is for sure larger then the reclaimers and it would probably be best to do runs through Pyro, since enemy ships would be more aggressive

As well as pirates

[native crag]

And its able to defend itself! 😄 only issue is if someone else comes in something big AND got a QT dampener ship with em,, then you need to chase down that before you can run lmao,, tho considering the Idris is fast, id guess it outrun most if not all QT dampening ships in game, so you just need to live long enough to run from that, full power to rear shields and blast,, better to live to fight another day than fight a loosing battle i guess 🙂

[supple fog]

cant wait to replace the hangar of my javelin with a giant capital qt dampener with emp

[fallen oar]

LOOOOOOL

Do that then use the cargo hold for holding ships @supple fog

[native crag]

i mean, ill take a wild guess and say that the idris is more agile,, so it can simply flip a 180, fly right past, by the time the Javelin has turned around the Idris could potentially have escaped

[fallen oar]

If it flies passed don't forget about the giant javelin size 9 or larger quad turrets

Top and bottom

[native crag]

yes, but how movable are those turrets? how easly can the Idris dodge those turrets? whats the reloading? how skilled is the gunners? its a lot of variables, from gunners to pilot skills, and how many shots will you need from a Javelin to piere and kill the Idris?

[supple fog]

dont forgett the emp then

to all those weapons

[native crag]

Exactly, and what if the Idris has escort? a small fleet of Vanguard Sentinels? they could reek havoc on the Javelin's system as they are small and manouverble and could get dangerously close to the Javelin and knock its big guns out of action so the idris can make a run for it and save tiself and the cargo

so as said,, it is a ton of variables if that idris will escape or not, its entirely up to what each of them carries, escorted by and skill levels oh and systems on the ships that accounts for EMP, QT dampener and all that, its... a beautyful chaos one cant predict, and i love it ❤️

[supple fog]

dont forgett my s12 i dumbfire when you fly by XD

[native crag]

A skilled pilot will be aware of the Size 12's and not fly in a straight line,, and what do you do if the Idris is escorted by my Javelin? (which im buying next time its on sale) you think the Javelin can sustain both an Idris AND a Javelin hammering you? i could also hire a crew for my Polaris, that'd put the odds very much against you, you never know what you'll face, as said, its a chaos, it will be hard to predict what you'll face, there is no telling UNLESS you somehow have intel, a spy, or anything that gives you aheadsup of whats about to happen

for all you know,, that Idris can be carrying a full cargo of Fury's armed for combat and deploy god knows how many fury's fits inside a Idris,,, can you imagine like 50 Fury's al larmed with distortion swarming your javelin? sure easy to kill if you hit em lmao but you never know what will happen, thats why this game is so good,, at any given point something might happen =))

[supple fog]

a fury wont do dmg on a javelin ^^

[native crag]

it was just a total random example lol

no need to take it seriouse

[fallen oar]

@native crag If you are focused on dodging the size 9's you are gonna expose yourself to the size 7's and 3's so either way

You'd be lit up as an idris

So the thing is a javelin is meant to destroy larger ships, a Polaris will more likely then not be better against the jav then an idris for this reason.

the polaris is best against larger ships with little to no PDS AKA the javelin.

A single polaris wont win, but a few could have a fighting chance.

The javelin is meant to be supported by a idris, and a few perseus's to deter fighters and any and all missiles/torps

if the javelin doesnt have to worry about torps, it will destroy any and all larger ships like a battleship

[slim gulch]

Javelin QT Dampening module when?

[tired pilot]

Idris and Perseus won't deter fighters

you want fighter screens or hammerheads for that

besides fighters are no threat to a javelin

it's just Ares and eclipses that are fighter size

that's what you have fighters and PDTs for, to kill those fast ship killers

[fallen oar]

Let me specify

Deter bombers

Fighters ON their own with normal weapons can not scratch the jav and idris

[native crag]

I just need to pass it, thats all, i wasnt planning on standing over it

[fallen oar]

Now lets equip the perseus's with flak rounds and they can easily take care of fighters

[tired pilot]

not deter, more like redirect. bombers will be too busy tryna kill the other ships to focus just one

[fallen oar]

@native crag You go past it and now both size 9's have eyes on your rear was my point

@tired pilot Not at all, dont forget PDS targets missiles and torps

If all the ships are near perseus's and idris's they cant use torps or missiles effectively if at all

Which is why I specifically said supported by those two

[tired pilot]

rounds and turret turning speeds will be slow, this is only if they can actually get one in their cross hair

[native crag]

As said, there is endless options, thats what im trying to get at, if an Idris faces an Javelin,,, it doesnt nesseserly mena it'll die, it can escape, get away, maybe it has cover, maybe the pilot and gunners of the Javelin is incompetant and fails their tasks and lose agains tthe Idris, you never really know, thats what im trying to get at

[tired pilot]

that fighter going 200m/s will out speed a size 7 turret trying to turn on it

[fallen oar]

@native crag you are right, just simply stating the reality behind going over it.

[tired pilot]

the Percy's PDTs are in godawful positions for defending another ship. I don't even think the Idris has that many PDTs either

[fallen oar]

@tired pilot It can yes, but again the fighter wont be able to scratch the larger ships

[tired pilot]

eclipse will also be moving that fast

[fallen oar]

No they aren't LOL top and bottom, almost complete 360 view.

It can be but the PDS will take care of its torps

Idris's PDS is worse positioning wise but has 4.

[native crag]

im aware,,, for all you know, what if this fight happens in an asteroid field? or if the Idris run into an asteroid field isntead of flying over? i doubt a Javelin can keep up with an Idris in an asteroid field, its just too sluggish to blast through it

[fallen oar]

Which is true, I never said the javelin would destroy it if its focused on running so idk why ye arguing with me on that point I simply said flying over exposes your year to size 9's

I think you are jumping into the ocean when i said river.

[native crag]

Full rear shields^

[fallen oar]

Again, Did I say it would destroy it,

No i said exposed.

You are jumping before even told to jump

[tired pilot]

there's one at the back, it can't see anything except what is below or in front of it. the entire under belly is exposed

the top turret can't see anything below the bridge either because the bridge is in its way

[native crag]

and whats to say the Javelin will even hit? if the idris just makes sure to be abit above, the Javelin cant shoot its big guns rearwards, and imma guess the javelins big guns takes a bit time to turn around,, and they'll most likely be focused forward when Idris is on its bow, so when the idris passes to the stern, there is a chance it'll be out of range before the guns even get back on target, i dunno the turret roation speed of the big guns so idk tbh, nor do i know the speed of the Idris

[tired pilot]

realistically your top turret is gonna be the only PDT able to help protect another ship

the Perseus 2nd PDT is there to protect your engines from torps and fighters

that's all it can do

it has an awful arc of fire because of the ships shape

[supple fog]

s7 and s4 not 3

[tired pilot]

it's a useful thing to have because it's a point defence turret. but it's no good for defending another ship unless that other ship is behind you and being shot at from in front of it, in that case you would be doing a bad job because the enemy is behind you

it's point to defend is the engines, I wouldn't rely on a Perseus or Idris to help a javelin with torps. they will be too busy tryna save themselves from torps to worry about another ship

[tired pilot]

same with fighter screens and hammerheads, they will be too absorbed with dogfighting or killing fighters to help a javs PDTs defend against torps

[supple fog]

i mean it can shoot infront aswell

[tired pilot]

that's the cannon

not the pdt

[supple fog]

you mean this?

or this

[tired pilot]

cannon is blue, PDT on engines is red

[tired pilot]

yeah... that won't be much help to another ship, barely helps the Percy itself

it protects the engines but that's it

[supple fog]

yeah

thats its job

[tired pilot]

on the left and right it's blocked by engines

[supple fog]

and bottom from missles

[tired pilot]

behind it's blocked by the ship, all it can do is look up down and straight, they said the PDTs have 360° coverage when they just don't

there's 2 PDTs with pretty bad arcs

[tired pilot]

I mean the top one can't see down below the bridge

[fallen oar]

Okay so the bottom one IS bad placement,

[tired pilot]

yeah

[fallen oar]

But other then that singular bad placement

have 2 of them

and an idris

No torps getting through

and they are mobile and can rotate quickly so

[supple fog]

i have no pds

[fallen oar]

Hopefully that changes XD or you can attach a PDS blade to the size 3's

[tired pilot]

yea they will still get through

[signal folio]

what are we talking about?

[tired pilot]

your Perseus and Idris will have to focus on keeping themselves alive. not the javelin

[signal folio]

pers?

[tired pilot]

so your PDTs on those ships will be shooting torps and fighters coming for them

[supple fog]

true, most of ships will run when they see me jumping in like that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042109360618348565/1183280601751621662/javelin.gif?ex=6587c2ef&is=65754def&hm=0aa2bf6c3955b9d09eebd8223a0a5e007dc4cc6248a3891f362a83f79f70c4e1&

[fallen oar]

@tired pilot You understand PDS is automated

[tired pilot]

you can't trust another ship to protect you from torps when they are tryna protect themselves

[fallen oar]

right?

They are automated systems, not player controlle,d but theyc an be

[tired pilot]

it could be if you wanted it do be. but it wouldn't be as good as if a player or NPC did it

[fallen oar]

The NPC would perform better

as the PDS only targets missiles and torps

The idris ingame HAD active PDS

But no torp or missile would hit it

[tired pilot]

cig have said they want it to be Player > NPC > blades

[fallen oar]

so they disabled it

Players can do More, but the PDS is built to deter missiles and torps

So it will perform objectively better in that field

While NPC's can adapt to orders, players can adapt on their own so it depends on what you want

But objectively PDS will do better on its own for it intended purpose

[tired pilot]

PDT is the turret not the blade

blades do many things

[fallen oar]

The PDS Is BUILT around a blade.

[tired pilot]

PDTs can be controlled by blades

[fallen oar]

The Blade can be implemented to other turrets

I dont think you understand what the PDS is, the PDS itself is already automated

It CAN be controlled by players or NPC's

but it is automatically mannned

by a computer to target missiles and torps

[tired pilot]

if they were already automated, why don't they work?

you have to install a blade which isn't in game yet

[fallen oar]

They were turned off on the idris,

[tired pilot]

Perseus is going to come with blades pre installed as per their Q&A but the Idris might not have them stock

[fallen oar]

As I stated

the Idris has PDS, but its turned off because no missile or torp could kit it

[tired pilot]

why aren't they on for player ships?

[tired pilot]

this is the reason they will be nerfing PDTs

[fallen oar]

And they needed to make it killable which is why the idris has less armor and HP.

Because the PDS is NOT on every ship?

Only certain ships have built in PDS

[tired pilot]

PDTs won't be coming to players the same way they work on the Idris

players > NPCs > blades

[fallen oar]

Perseus, Idris are BOTH have build in PDS

Again,

You are talking about normal turrets

Not PDS

[tired pilot]

I wouldn't be surprised if they end up making blades have a 300m engagement distance or something stupid

[fallen oar]

Again, Normal turrets

Not PDS turrets

stop using your info for normal turrets on PDS turrets

PDS turrets have already been clarrified as in the use of the idris to be automated already,

Blades as is already exist in game, they stated this at a Q/A that all enemy ships are blades.

[tired pilot]

Hercules has PDTs, they don't work

[fallen oar]

But the PDS operates differently

A2? Cause no it does not

The turret in the rear as far as I am tracking is Not a PDS turret,

the design is massively different even around the turret to be even considered a PDS

[tired pilot]

it sure as hell isn't an offensive turret if it's on the rear

it's called point defence

turret

meaning it's defending a point

that being the entrance to the ship and the engines

[fallen oar]

Point Defence Turret, Point Defense System

You are talking about a completely different part.

I have said PDS every time for a reason

The Perseus and Idris Both had those specific parts listed as PDS

[tired pilot]

PDS doesn't exist 😭

where have they ever called it a pds

[fallen oar]

I have seen it multiple times across different platforms about ships and ship designs with updated information,

I have also listened in on the Q/A's

Where Blades and such were discussed and supporrted the statement around PDS.

[tired pilot]

yeah slide the sources

if they made AI blades have aimbot the game wouldn't work properly, they will be nerfed into the ground for player ships

[fallen oar]

Depends, Because PDS is only meant to missiles and torps

[tired pilot]

probably having long target registration times, boot up sequences and short engagement distances

[fallen oar]

so again, normal Logic for BASIC turrets does not apply to PDS

[tired pilot]

the Polaris, eclipse, retaliator, gladiator, harbinger are all obsolete if they made blades good

[fallen oar]

Its like saying, Homing rockets follow targets, and that means Bullets should also chase targets, No they have different purposes and have different restrictions

[tired pilot]

and cuz Polaris is a fan fav for some reason I doubt they would do that

[tired pilot]

don't expect blades to be the answer tho

[fallen oar]

The Polaris Needs a counterbalance

[tired pilot]

guarantee they will be lackluster

[fallen oar]

PDS IS that counter balance

It is not, again as I stated the PDS was disabled to allow players to kill the ingame idris, same with health lowering and removal of its armor.

When they game is done, the game will be unrecognizable and the ship combat completely different, fighters will be anti bombers, while ships with PDS screen and protect fleets from Missiles and torps

[slim gulch]

Yes, but it isn’t a hard stop for all torpedos and guided missiles like it is made out to be.

[fallen oar]

It isn

[tired pilot]

they won't just hit 100% of the time

there will be spread

they will miss

torps will get through

your arcs of fire might be shit

[fallen oar]

isn't a "hard" stop as It can be just absolutely filled with torps and cant stop them all

[tired pilot]

like on the Perseus

[fallen oar]

But again, 1 damage point for a Torp

The torp uses gatlings with a natural spread,

It will absolutely destroy most of the torps and missiles

Which ive said since the beginning, which is why you have MULTIPLE ships with PDS

Yall are just goal shifting now.

[tired pilot]

your AI blade might have a 200m engagement distance with a long target registration time, and by that point it only has a second or two to fire and you get hit and then rip

if they just made PDTs super great

[fallen oar]

PDS, again.

[tired pilot]

it wouldn't go in line with their Player > NPC > blade

[fallen oar]

Different weapon system bud

Stop using PDT's when im argung PDS

Arguing

[tired pilot]

how is PDT not the same as PDS

[fallen oar]

Point Defense Turret

Turret = Manning

=Blade if wnated

wanted

[tired pilot]

a turret is a system

[fallen oar]

PDS = Point Defense System, Automated,

[tired pilot]

so by this logic the Perseus has no PDS

they are all turrets that can be manned

[fallen oar]

Negative, Point Defense Turrets are the same as what battleships used back then when a man hopped on the mounted gun

[tired pilot]

whether the turret is automated or not doesn't stop it from being a turret

[fallen oar]

the PDS Was the CWS added, an automated system That COULD be controlled manually

You dont know shit about weapon systems on naval vessels, and it shows.

PDS and PDT are fundamentally different with the same goal.

[tired pilot]

bro we are not on HMS victoria

this is a space game

[fallen oar]

PDT was the earliest version of the PDS acronym, while dealing with manned positions that couldn't be automated naturally, PDS was automatted naturally and could be manned.

space game that has used PDS and PDT differently for a reason.,

There is a reason they refer to some parts as PDT

[tired pilot]

it hasn't though

[fallen oar]

Others as PDS

[tired pilot]

they refer to PDTs and PDS as the same thing

[fallen oar]

So why name some parts PDS and others PDT? Exhibit A what i sent above

[tired pilot]

1. because cig are inconsistent

2. they mean the same thing as PDT

I guarantee they will label the same turrets as PDTs somewhere else

like in the Idris brochure if it has one

[fallen oar]

If they mean the same thing as PDT, Then congrats those ships with PDT will have an automated system that can be manned.

But as it stands, PDS and PDT are not the same thing unless they change their minds.

[tired pilot]

ALL bladed remote turrets can be manned

there's not a single ship where it isn't the case

Perseus has PDTs that can be manned or bladed

clearly it's the same thing as PDS

[tired pilot]

and they can be manned for a reason

because manned is better

[fallen oar]

Not at all, again. PDS does not have to be manned, Manned CAN be better if it is for multi purpose.

But for anti missile and torp

Not at all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kkux5k/idris_destroying_a_s9_torpedo/ perfect example of the PDS system

[tired pilot]

if you could put auto blades on every turret that would be very strong, negate the need for multicrew and make every ship soloable. which is against CIGs aims

they would never make blades or ai crew too good

as it would kill their vision of no solo crews

[fallen oar]

Again, the PDS

Does not use the same system

as other turrets

that is why PDS, is seperated for a reason, different purpose and role.

[tired pilot]

you just said here if a PDT can be automated and manned it's a PDT not a PDS

all remote turrets can be bladed or manned

[fallen oar]

I said based off YOUR logic

That PDT and PDS are the same,

You said they arem

[tired pilot]

there is no such thing as a PDS Vs PDT in this game

[fallen oar]

SO I stated theoretically IF they are the same

Then it means both

[tired pilot]

go and ask around

nobody calls them PDS

[fallen oar]

But I do not believe they are,

[tired pilot]

because they don't exist

[fallen oar]

LOL They are legit called PDS

I sent,

a pic above

showing CIG

calling it PDS

The star Citizen Wiki, called it PDS, Multiple other sites following ship schematics

Called it PDS

you are delulu

[tired pilot]

PDT is the same thing as PDS in this game which is why everyone uses PDT instead of PDS, notice you are the only one calling it PDS

[tired pilot]

yeah where though

[fallen oar]

"Compared to the Idris-P, Idris-K has an additional size 10 laser beam, four point defense turrets that replaced the remote turrets, and a missile turret that replaced a manned turret.[1] Both Idris-P and Idris-M can be converted to this variant using the aftermarket kit."

.

[signal folio]

this is a pointless arugment

nothing is happening

[fallen oar]

You rightm

[signal folio]

yall have been. on this

for like

an hour

[fallen oar]

Im done arguin with a man who cant read PDS in the description and title XD

[slim gulch]

PDTs. What does PDS stand for?

[fallen oar]

Point Defense System.

Point Defense Turret is PDT

[tired pilot]

A TURRET IS A SYSTEM

it's the same thing

the same system

the same ship computer

[slim gulch]

A system is comprised of multiple turrets.

[tired pilot]

the same AI Blade

[tired pilot]

why is it called life support system if it's just 1 thing

your suit has a life support system but it's just 1 suit for 1 person

[fallen oar]

Turret and system in the point defence case are different,

Just as Cyber Security and other occupations use the word system differently

[tired pilot]

if they aren't turrets then what are they

because all of them can be manned

or automated

so what makes them not a turret

[fallen oar]

System for point defence states it is a multi layered weapon that utilizes AI to adjust targetting and firing the main weapon, while turret is manned. THOUGH it does NOT state that a turret can not be automated through an external upgrade OR a PDS cant be manned manually through the system if needed.

Bro you are dense, third time explaining it.

[tired pilot]

sounds like this system is the same thing as a turret

it revolves and shoots a gun

manned or unmanned

[slim gulch]

Because there are multiple elements to the system. Vents, air refreshenators, oxygen pumps, etc.

[tired pilot]

there's multiple elements to a turret, triggers, wires, ammo, barrels etc.

[slim gulch]

They are a turret because they are guns that swivel on a mount. Manned or unmanned turrets are both turrets.

[fallen oar]

You ignore the basics of "Automatted" but im done arguin with ya bud,

[tired pilot]

it's an automated turret

[fallen oar]

Thats why PDS is a system, it is inherently automatted, it does not need manning

[tired pilot]

so this PDS is the same as a PDT

[slim gulch]

But a PDS is comprised of a system of turrets.

[tired pilot]

neither do the PDTs in this game

[slim gulch]

No. A PDS is comprised of multiple PDTs.

[fallen oar]

PDT's need a man, PDT's can not operate with manual control

Unless a blade is put in,

[tired pilot]

do you mean without manual control

[fallen oar]

@slim gulch and I disagree with that, because if so they wouldn't call each individual turret here a PDS if that was the case.

Yes, without manual control a PDT can not operate Unless a blade is installed, does not come with it factory,

[tired pilot]

then why does nobody refer to PDT plural as PDS

[fallen oar]

a PDS, is automatted and can be Manually controlled if desired.

[tired pilot]

but on the Perseus they are all PDTs factory installed with blades, they say that in the Q&A does that make it a PDT or a PDS, or does it make it the same thing?

oh maybe they won't have it stock idk

I'll have to check

[fallen oar]

If its factory installed, and Comes naturally with the system its a PDS. That is why the pic above says PDS for the idris point defense system turrets

[tired pilot]

either way the Perseus has PDTs

[slim gulch]

Either they are mislabled or you are receiving 4 separate point defense systems.

[tired pilot]

yeah definetly remote turrets

[slim gulch]

That’s exactly what they do.

[tired pilot]

I'm gonna say mislabeled lol

rsi website is full of bs from 2013 unthought about

[slim gulch]

Yes.

[fallen oar]

LOL bro the K upgrade is recent,

[slim gulch]

Right??

[fallen oar]

That is on the K upgrade,

For the idris

so thats recent and new.,

[tired pilot]

K upgrade.. recent?

[fallen oar]

Most recently updated

" The Idris-K was introduced as the Aegis Idris P after market kit in Anniversary 2018 sale."

[tired pilot]

that is like 6 years ago

atleast 5 years ago pushing on 6

[fallen oar]

None the less more recent then 2013 Bs.

[tired pilot]

they change their minds about everything all the time

could still be mislabeled

too

some brand new intern let on the website again

😭

[fallen oar]

If thats your only argument

is mislabled. then its stupid to argue with ignorance.

[tired pilot]

find a source where they explain how a PDS works

or why it's called a PDS in their game

they've always called them remote turrets

and then said they can be bladed

as seen in the Percy q&a

[fallen oar]

Ill give you this, PDT and PDS are the same thing, But what I stated stands as that it is better at handling missiles and torps better then people. they stated this

" Point Defense Turrets are simply AI controlled turrets with the computer and blades necessary, and with a specific weapon loadout intended to make them effective at neutralizing incoming fast threats like missiles or torpedoes. Any turret can be equipped with these particular weapons and computer blades. PDTs just come ready to go out of the box. "

thats based off what they said that they are the same in this definition.

But none the less, states the "PDT" is better at handling missiles and torps

[orchid shadow]

that was a long argument about pngs

one thing i want to note is solo idris beats solo polaris and solo jav

the idris can fly and shoot at the same time 💀

[tired pilot]

it states that they're ready out of the box, nothing about being better. you could fit any turret out with the same things from what it says in the last section

[tired pilot]

it's for the message count

[tired pilot]

can Polaris pilot use torps?? or does it need operator

either way if you're soloing a cap you deserve to be destroyed 💀💀

[fallen oar]

"built to be effective at neutralizing fast threats"

effective

=

Better

Polaris needs a torp operator

Cant shoot with the pilot alone sadly

[tired pilot]

"any turret can be equipped with these particular weapons and computer blades PDTs just come ready to go out of the box"

[tired pilot]

😔

[fallen oar]

Any turret can be equipped with it yes, Which means if those turrets are then they also become better at dealing with those systems,

Which does not deter the fact that it is built specifically and better at dealing with torps,

Automated and not, automated preferred.

[tired pilot]

I don't think automated will be that great compared to players

especially with how you want to use it

humans will know which targets to prioritise, unlike the blade AI

[fallen oar]

The ONLY instance of that, would be missile swarm.

[tired pilot]

you'll be able to decide based on the situation whether to target the torp coming for you, your javelin

or target the missile firing ship such as the eclipse

[fallen oar]

Other then that the PDS would easily swat missiles and torps out of the sky

[tired pilot]

same reason they haven't made robocops yet

humans have better judgement

[fallen oar]

The PDT shouldn't target the eclipse, only the torp

As it states, torps and missiles.

I also posted a video,

[tired pilot]

if it's a player using it then you could, which is why it would be better for that

[fallen oar]

Of the PDS/PDT in operation

It stopped targetting ships

[tired pilot]

idk about that, they might only target missiles/torps locked onto your ship

[fallen oar]

and targetted the torp immediately

[tired pilot]

otherwise they'd just shoot down missiles your teammates fire

[fallen oar]

Which is a fair guess @tired pilot If it only targets stuff locked onto you

then player controlled would be needed for fleet defense, not for personal defense

BUT if this can be applied to any ship

[tired pilot]

and if they only shoot stuff coming to you, the Percy and Idris won't be able to defend a javelin from torps with their PDTs if they're not aimed at them

[fallen oar]

Ima outfit all the javelin size 3 weapons to it.

[tired pilot]

yes

[fallen oar]

And have nothin but size 3 PDS all over it

[tired pilot]

like I'm saying that PDT automated are not the answer

player > NPC > blade

[fallen oar]

But in the end, the PDS is more effective at dealing with torps and missiles then a person. A person would be better for all round purposes.

[tired pilot]

unless your player is a shit gamer with bad aim then use PDT

blade

[fallen oar]

negative, PDT auto targets missiles and torps,

Player would have to shift through manually

and find the torp if he is distracted

the AI is not distracted and has targetting parameters and knows what to target first

I stated a Player would be better at something outside the norm, IE Fleet defense

but normal missile and torp spam defense, the automated wins, especially when fighters are involved.

[tired pilot]

hopefully those turrets don't shoot your teammates

when there's no torps targeting you

[fallen oar]

It for the most part targets those who attacked you, so unless your teammates dont have trigger discipline,

you are fine

[tired pilot]

I wouldn't be surprised if they even tried to take on larger ships and just wasted ammo 😭

AI moment

[fallen oar]

Maybe, but im pretty certain it would only target torps or smaller fighters as shown in the idris PDS video

prioritizing torps over all

[tired pilot]

it might come with the ship computer and management updates that allow you to set security clearance etc.

you can set your blades to target certain priorities

or maybe even targeting parameters

might be able to set it to attack everything within a certain distance

or just things shooting you

or torps coming at you

who knows

[orchid shadow]

it has a torpedo operator

[tired pilot]

rip

[fallen oar]

@tired pilot If so I'd prefer that as it allows for more customization

I do sincerely hope this becomes like eve but more indepth ground and personnel wise.

[slim gulch]

I dislike EVE because some rando that is fused to his gaming chair can hit a button and everybody in a sector loses their ships.

[viscid cosmos]

Wut

[slim gulch]

TL;DR: Too much player control over massive in game things.

[viscid cosmos]

That game has ships which can take out all shields in a sector? That's fucking wild

[orchid shadow]

doesnt it have a death star

[slim gulch]

Take out? Ahaha… no. It destroys a space station while you’re offline which kills everybodies ships in that station. You night be thinking, well just pick a different home station, right? Wrong! No station is safe because every station is player controlled and destroyable.

[slim gulch]

Titans? Yes. It. Does. But unlike the Death star, they have no weakness and the only way to kill one is with another titan.

[viscid cosmos]

Can you bedlog in space?

[slim gulch]

No.

[orchid shadow]

there do have high sec and low sec systems so its not like you are always in danger of being killed

i remember a while back they had to buff the npc security because a org had taken control of a high sec area and was killing everyone including the security

[signal folio]

i thought atp

EVE high sec

is like

invulnerable

and spawns constantly if you dont die

lmao

[orchid shadow]

oh yeah this was years ago

[signal folio]

oh okay lmao

[tired pilot]

me in star citizen until a Bengal shows up

fuck it next pay check I'm gonna put it in a savings account for liberator CCU

chain

that way I won't touch it

and I can finally get the last ship I want

woohoo

that's until they release something else cool and I want it

or I'll inevitably want an Idris

[supple fog]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-lmao-so-funny-el-risitas-gif-17144239

There will be never an end

Trust me

When i started i was like 5 ships and polaris will be my last....

Oh boy

[tired pilot]

well it will be for me

until mega fury or f7a

[supple fog]

Im thinking about putting stuff into a aegis comp pack just for a 3th jav and 2nd idris

My mind is going creazy in the last days

[tired pilot]

wtf 😭

[supple fog]

Why you crying

[tired pilot]

why do you need 3 Javs and 2 Idris 😭😭

talk about spending addiction

[supple fog]

Just look at it

Now you should understand

[bold coyote]

God i want a jav so bad but will likely never use it as my teams not that big :/ but damn its a sexy ass ship

[tired pilot]

yeah I'd never use one either

[supple fog]

You can always join mine ^^

[supple fog]

Same for you

[tired pilot]

I'd rather not be stuck in the engine room or a turret of a javelin thanks

[supple fog]

You can be stuck in the mess hall

And play some games

[tired pilot]

I'm gonna be plating up food in the cafeteria.... even better

[supple fog]

You can do that

[tired pilot]

😭😭

I want star citizen cooking to be like cooking simulator

that would be fun and entertaining

[supple fog]

You gonna flip some burger while we mass murder people with 60 guns

[tired pilot]

the oven exploded and I can't tell if we just got hit by an armour piercing round or I left the fire extinguisher too close to the oven

[supple fog]

[tired pilot]

if it's like cooking simulator physics I'll be responsible for all the ship fires

[supple fog]

You need a lot of burger ready for after battle

[supple fog]

When we arive over a planet you need to fly down with the mpuv to get some more stuff to cook

[viscid cosmos]

https://www.youtube.com/live/UzjCJqF3Urw?si=iCKF6sZYY2zYCU0T

[tired pilot]

I better have gladius escorts in pyro

[supple fog]

You get the redeemer from the hanagar with 1-2 gladius

Since your on a mission

[tired pilot]

the most important mission

feed the crew

the hangry crew