#SS/Photography Discussions

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silent token
steady mountain
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Sorry lol, it's a brilliant resource, would have posted more pictures but I'm not at my pc right now

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@earnest kindle sorry for the ping, but let's take the conversation here so the mods don't get angry at us lol

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You definitely have found your own style for photography though, as soon as I see high contrast/ high sharpness and texture detail I recognise it as yours

earnest kindle
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Thank you ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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And it's clearly within the realms of realism without any drastic editing, I'm jealous it looks so good lol

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I've been trying to focus more on my composition recently, so I've been avoiding everything but ReShade

earnest kindle
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Yeah exactly, I'm not trying to add anything that isn't there

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I just want to highlight some details

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But I'm glad a lot of people seem to like it.

steady mountain
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Yeah, it's good

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You've found a good balance between it all

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Whenever I did editing, adding to what's there came first, things like contrast and stuff were a priority

earnest kindle
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Exactly, contrast is very important and a big part of making things look 'better'

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I'm nowhere near an expert on photo editing but I try to get better at it.

steady mountain
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Yea, for sure

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I tried not to go too far with it, but I always felt like I could do better

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So now I'm just trying to get my core photography improved before I try any of it again

earnest kindle
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For every picture I upload in this server, there are 5-7 that don't make it.

steady mountain
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Maybe the odd picture or two if I really like it

earnest kindle
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Sometimes more

steady mountain
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Yeah

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I've been finding that more and more too

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I do keep meaning to see if I can find grid/ golden ratio/ other overlays for ReShade but I kep forgetting

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I feel like I can only do so well by eye before I start to drift from the actual framing of them

earnest kindle
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Hahaha, you'll get there eventually

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Practice a lot

steady mountain
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Yeah, I've been trying to challenge myself a bit with taking xyz ship to xyz location and doing a photoshoot with the two

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No idea if I'm improving at all but hey, it's fun to do and makes me think about what I'm actually taking a picture of

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Got Lorville and A18 next which will be interesting

earnest kindle
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Think of certain themes and ideas and then select the ship and location that fit with it.

shy tendon
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E

earnest kindle
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F

steady mountain
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G?

shy tendon
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I was establishing my presence

steady mountain
silent token
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Photography Discussions

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SS/Photography Discussions

earnest kindle
steady mountain
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Yea, but I want to go with something that contrasts it a bit lol

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Oh well, i'll find something

shy tendon
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the ship designs contrast the city

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anvil is more militant

steady mountain
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I was thinking of using the 400 and the Penumbra paint

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Matches the Hurston theme of black and gold

autumn heron
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not mentioning cases where I do two different color corrections style and can't choose which one is better, saving the same picture twice

steady mountain
timid bay
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also at least in my opinion sunset really helps lorville look less flat

steady mountain
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Yeah, I need to just see what works

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I've already used the 400i for my Orison shots so I want to try a different ship if I can

steady mountain
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Anyone have some lesser known/ used ships they like to take shots of? Want to try different things

timid bay
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raft, merlin, bucc, herald are some of mine

steady mountain
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The Herald has a real nice interior

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The merlin/ archimedes I almost never see, might use one next time

shy tendon
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swift dirge
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@rain python

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I meant how much did it take to find pieces of ships and salvage them?

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I want to calculate aUEC/hour to find if it is profitable

rain python
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oh probably 1-5 minutes per good area of salvage. Had to find 1-2 areas each run so each run probably lasts 30-40 minutes

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if you're good at it and you know where to land 35 minutes per run at about 190k a run. Probably 350k an hour more or less?

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most people I've talked to say in a regular run you can probably make 200k an hour but those are rookie numbers haha

swift dirge
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For me anything below 100k/hour is not worth it

rain python
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yeah this makes more than triple that

swift dirge
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But salvage seems to be even better than mining

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It is easier, more relaxing and the cycle is shorter (no refinery)

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  • even more money maybe
rain python
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oh for sure more money more relaxing lower skill gap and way more consistent

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if you have a prospector it's not half as good as a vulture nowadays lol

swift dirge
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Maybe it will get nerfed

rain python
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doubtful at least until T1 salvage is introduced

swift dirge
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And still Vanguard bounties can provide you with higher profit but it is much more complicated and worse for your brain cells

rain python
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yeah

earnest kindle
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Good morning

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I'm thinking about using reshade to level up the screenshots

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But my 2070super is already on max load when I play SC on my 4k monitor

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So is it even a viable option to run reshade?

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Because I assume it will add extra load to the GPU?

steady mountain
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I was on a 2060 before upgrading, 4k 16:9 with ReShade gave me about 10fps

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ReShade doesn't really have an impact

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I've loaded up quite a few shaders and it was still pretty consistant

earnest kindle
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Hmm okay, I might start playing around with it then

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Need to watch a couple vids first to see how it works ๐Ÿคฃ

steady mountain
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It's really easy to get working

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Hard bit is fine tuning it to get a good result/ result you like

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I was lazy and just nicked Trini's preset they posted somewhere here and then changed that a little and slowly added to it myself

earnest kindle
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I'll probably do something similar

steady mountain
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If anyone else uses some overlays to substitute having a viewport to help compose pictures, here's a golden ratio shader for ReShade I found

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Has controllable opacity and a toggle between a fixed size or stretching to fit your screen

steady mountain
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reallongexposure.fx is what you're looking for @serene lotus

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I can grab the file if you don't have it

serene lotus
steady mountain
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Same here lol

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Sometimes I forget that I should try using other ones

serene lotus
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I switch depending on the scene, not too often but still so it helps

steady mountain
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Yeah, I gotta see what works

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Been looking into taking higher quality shots recently though, not been looking into shaders all that much

serene lotus
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you might want to consider using cupscale

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that's another level of quality

steady mountain
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I have been, used it a fair bit before but when I upgraded my pc I had to do a fresh install of everything so I haven't been using it much recently

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Tried using it to downscale the 4k Antares shots to 2k but it doesn't want to work for me

serene lotus
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what gpu you have?

steady mountain
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3080

serene lotus
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so you should be fine without any tricks

steady mountain
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That's what I thought, it's been iffy though

serene lotus
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Let me tell you models I use...

steady mountain
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I think the problem is that it doesn't recognise that i've got python installed

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The embedded installer never works for me

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Gonna download latest version, see if that fixes anything

serene lotus
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ah

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so you do have the same problem I had with my 3090

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Oh boy, that was a ride

steady mountain
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Uh oh

serene lotus
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I had to manually install certain libraries

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there are tutorials online telling what exactly to do in this case

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now my GPU flies in cupscale

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24 GB is a blessing ๐Ÿ˜„

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anyway, that's my list.

steady mountain
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I'll sort that out another time, heading home this evening so won't even be able to get to my pc for a few days

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Oh boy that's quite the list

serene lotus
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I use basically all of them sometimes, but these are the most versatile

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JPEG will remove noise and make the file much smaller

steady mountain
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I'd guess that gets a lot of use

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Tried to post some shots on the community hub but the 10gb limit kills me

serene lotus
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10mb?

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yeah

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it's annoying

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get PowerTools for windows11

steady mountain
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Mb yeah, gb would be perfect lol

serene lotus
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you will be able to resize files from the context menu

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you can set custom res and you will just click twice and the file will generate itself

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no messing with the app, only the initial set up

steady mountain
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Sweet

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Saves having to mess around with libraries for now

serene lotus
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jpg, png, bmp, you choose

steady mountain
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I will use png till my dying breah lol

serene lotus
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I often save in JPG when it is a final product. I figured how to keep the quality high enough.

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plus, that prevents anyone from messing with it further since there's very little hidden data left

steady mountain
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Huh

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Didn't know that

serene lotus
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PNG preserves more information about the image, even the one we don't really see.

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that's what makes the file bigger

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it's handy during editing

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but when you're done with it there is no point saving still in PNG

steady mountain
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Always thought png was the straight up go-to for high quality images

serene lotus
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If you imagine quality of the image as a swimming pool then PNG reaches to the half depth of it while JPG is the surface of the water.

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DNG, RAW, etc goes to the bottom

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we often don't see the bottom

steady mountain
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Deep pools

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I know the basics of it, just didn't realise most of png wasn't needed

serene lotus
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I'm a graphic designer

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I dream about file formats

steady mountain
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Jpg always seemed to compress badly

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That explains a lot

serene lotus
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it doesn't have to be this way, what's important is how you compress/save the file

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and what was the original of it

steady mountain
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Makes sense

serene lotus
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like I said, JPEG model from cupscale will remove a lot of noise, making the file much smaller. Someone could say it's of a worse quality since it's smaller but you will look at it and say that's not the case.

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PNG still contains a lot of data necessary for proper editing but not really important when it comes to a final product

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if you know it's your final edit you may as well save the file as JPG using the right level of compression and color range

steady mountain
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Good to know

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No wonder all your shots turn out so well then lol

serene lotus
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thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

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Sometimes I spend a fair amount of time on them

steady mountain
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Here I was wondering what sorcery ingame/ shaders you were using but if only it were that simple

serene lotus
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I use 3 shaders from Reshade

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no more

steady mountain
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How much time in post do you spend then?

serene lotus
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Well, I often use cupscale which takes up the most of the time

steady mountain
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Or is it just shoot in high res with minimal changes via reshade, then just make the file size smaller?

serene lotus
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some images render in 5 minutes

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I try to capture images in 7K but sometimes that's not viable

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cause you capture individual frames

steady mountain
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I tried capturing at some ridiculous res and just straight up crashed my game so I need to find a more reasonable size lol

serene lotus
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so, I capture a snap, I load it up to cupscale, render it, save the png, load it up in lightroom, edit it, save it (often as jpg) and then sometimes I go back to cupscale to remove unnecessary noise

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what's your RAM?

steady mountain
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32gb

serene lotus
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what display do you have?

steady mountain
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3440x1440

serene lotus
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ultrawide for life fuck yeah

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same here

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34 inches?

steady mountain
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Can't go back, it's lovely

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No, 27 I think

serene lotus
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I got this HP x34 for 300 pounds xD

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It's crazy good

steady mountain
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Goddamn, mine was 400 quid

serene lotus
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check HP website dude

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it's crazy cheap

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the quality is amazing for this price range

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and the monitor looks minimalistic and elegant

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anyway

steady mountain
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Oh no, it is 34in, just checked it

serene lotus
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on your display, depending on the model and the connection you could go as high as 6880x2880

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hahah

steady mountain
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Yeah, i've a Dell, does some good stuff

serene lotus
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Dell is awesome, dude

steady mountain
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I can, Nvidia's DSR lets me go up there

serene lotus
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one of the best display companies out there

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nah

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forget DSR

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create a custom res

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and physically switch to it

steady mountain
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Surely DSR does the same?

serene lotus
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Not at all

steady mountain
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Oh right, is it because it then runs it at 1440p?

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Same scale just a better image or something like that, I forget exactly how dsr works

serene lotus
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DSR upscales the given resolution to the desired one and then downscales it back to the one of the display

steady mountain
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Right

serene lotus
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so, if you choose 8K or whatever the resulting image you capture won't still be that

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it will be 1440

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sure, there will be the gain of the upscaling but in your native resolution

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it's basically cupscale but in real time

steady mountain
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Whenever I do it, I do get shots in 2880p

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Comes up in file viewer as 6880x2880

serene lotus
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okay, still try setting up custom res and compare the quality

steady mountain
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Yeah, i'll do that

serene lotus
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Yeah, it looks like a genuine 2800

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2880*

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nice one btw

steady mountain
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Just gotta get cupscale to work again so I can downscale to a reasonable file size lol

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Thanks, really happy how those ones turned out

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Been really keeping composure in mind lately

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I think it's good enough for me to now look into increasing the overall image quality, hence why i've been doing all this

serene lotus
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you mean composition?

steady mountain
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Yeah composition, losing my composure and getting mixed up now lol

serene lotus
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Yeah, scorpius looks good

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let me have a closer look....

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bottom rigth corner

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right*

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plus, you could show the entire tail, it's slightly cropped

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other than that, it's great

steady mountain
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Damn didn't even notice the corner

serene lotus
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the laser beams look like they were transcending the shot

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left---right

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the contrast is amazing

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color balance...

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the red appears to be slightly blue -ish but it's literally 1-2% of the temperature

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i like the pic

steady mountain
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I think I was a bit heavy handed with editing previously, so i've been trying to do smaller adjustments to contrast and stuff

serene lotus
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I sometimes overdo shit mate ๐Ÿ˜„

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trying to make it better you make it worse

steady mountain
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Yeah, it's a rabbit hole lol

serene lotus
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plus, you always have to assume not everyone has a display like yours

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contrast will appear differently on IPS and on VA and TN

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most people playing SC - I presume - use VA

steady mountain
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Yeah, I check them on my second monitor

serene lotus
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that's really good

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don't forget to check them on your phone, as well

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times we live in... xD

steady mountain
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Really helps with contrast and colour edits, my main monitor is lovely but the second one (my old one) is a pretty cheap one so it's a good way to see if it might look overdone on other displays

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I don't often check on my phone though, that's not a bad shout

serene lotus
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yeah

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the blacks are usually washed out

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and you can see the edges you can't see on your Dell ๐Ÿ˜„

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I mean your old monitor

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it's probably TN

steady mountain
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I think the old one might be VA actually

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But even so, looks drastically different to the primary

serene lotus
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Va is a low response

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IPS is a wide gamut and angles

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but VA has a better contrast

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depending on the model

steady mountain
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Yeah, they all vary slightly

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serene lotus
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ohhh, so it's a curved one

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obviously they don't state whether it's an IPS or VA but 99% it's the latter

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majority of curved displays are VA

steady mountain
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Yeah, pretty sure they're both VA

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I know the Dell is for sure

serene lotus
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yeah

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good stuff, mate

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I needed IPS, after all

steady mountain
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Tried to find an affordable ultrawide with good picture quality and this one came up and was a good price so I went for it

steady mountain
serene lotus
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it is, right? ๐Ÿ˜„

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YOu won't find anything cheaper in this category

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and still the monitor is great

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fine, HDR is bit washed out but I don't use it that much

steady mountain
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I've found HDR to be far too bright

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Rarely use it

serene lotus
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I play NMS in HDR all the time

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I love it ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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It works for a few games but others just look terrible

serene lotus
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Star Citizen looks pretty good on mine, but the problem are the images

steady mountain
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Destiny 2 uses it iirc and that looks great, if I turn it on for Legion then it's just bright and washed out

serene lotus
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you capture WITH the HDR and then you try to view them....

steady mountain
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HDR doesn't carry over, does it?

serene lotus
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it does

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depending on which capture technology you use

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I use only Nvidia overlay

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it captures everything

steady mountain
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Not bad

serene lotus
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it's quite useful cause if you play more games, it creates a separate folder for each game specified in 3D settings in Nvidia panel

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so they don't get all mixed up

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I concurrently play about 8 different titles so it would be a nightmare sorting shit out

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I got 9K snaps from SC alone, that's after I deleted a lot of them today.

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I can't make up my mind

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they all might come in handy ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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I only really take serious screenshots in sc, i'd probably just use reshade for others if I start doing them there

steady mountain
serene lotus
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I got 800 in the posted floder.

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folder*

steady mountain
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Christ...

serene lotus
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8 years, mate.

steady mountain
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Ah

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That'd do it

serene lotus
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xD

steady mountain
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I've only been able to have reshade work since 3.17? Whenever we got the facial texture updates

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So my backlog is only since then

serene lotus
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and I was out for a long while cause I hated this shit to its guts ๐Ÿ˜„

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keep doing what you're doing, Tobias. You're in the lead already, pal.

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the scorpius looks great.

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just repeat that.

steady mountain
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Means a lot hearing that from you, cheers

serene lotus
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you will sometimes take amazing screenshots and hardly anyone will like it. That doesn't mean a thing, if it's great for you it means that you gained the most important fan.

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You.

steady mountain
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Yeah, i'm definitely my harshest critic

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I compare what I do to others far too often lol

serene lotus
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don't.

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you never know how others process their content.

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and they usually don't tell.

steady mountain
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Yeah, it's a bad habit i'm trying to contain

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Definitely helps when I focus on something and I end up proud of it, like some of my more recent stuff

serene lotus
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Dude, I sometimes see others pictures and I'm like "motherfucker..." ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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Or if I can see how much I have improved over the years

serene lotus
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if you see something good, try to make it your own

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good things should be an inspiration not a drawback

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people came before you and people will come after you

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year from now you will explain shit to someone else

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telling you things you tell me now

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same script, different cast

steady mountain
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Yeah, more than likely

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Always will be a cycle

serene lotus
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Okay, so enough praising your ass

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now, think of changing that shitty profile picture ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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Drew it myself, actually

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But yeah

serene lotus
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Fine, it's beautiful and stuff and you should be proud of yourself but unless you're planning to put it out in the gallery....

steady mountain
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I would but I can't find a shot that fits it well

serene lotus
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mind that most people use discord in dark mode now

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white frame is pretty blinding

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and that thing looks like a leming ran over by a truck

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lemming*

steady mountain
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It was literally a scribble that I used to test out some brushes

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Realised it looked like a face and stuck with it

serene lotus
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Okay, so it's a scribble

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nice

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to meet you

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blob

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๐Ÿ˜„

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you can easily fit into the profile picture a face, a helmet, a whole person but with a good contrast or even a scenery with the ground being clearly separate from the sky, etc

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the stuff is small

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play with the light

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I mean, you did it already

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it's black and white

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build on that

steady mountain
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Yea, I think the biggest problem was the file sizes were too big lol

serene lotus
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you need something like 256x256 for that

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it's tiny

steady mountain
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Yeah, I was just cropping my usual screenshots

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Not the most efficient method

serene lotus
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See?

steady mountain
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Yeah, seems easy enough

serene lotus
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get powertoys

steady mountain
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I did, managed to upload the scorp pics earlier

serene lotus
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told you, right click, context menu, you just choose defined res and you're go

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here?

steady mountain
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No, here I did the full res

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Community hub

serene lotus
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ah

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I will find you later

steady mountain
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Cool

serene lotus
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sent you a friend req

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I gotta go now, let's catch up later, pal.

steady mountain
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For sure, thanks for the chat - learnt a lot

serene lotus
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please, keep taking screenshots, alright? Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

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ciao, bello

steady mountain
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Oh I definitely will be, no need to worry about that

steady mountain
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Hey Matt, what do you do for your vertical/ square shots, you just using custom resolutions to play the game and take shots in?

serene lotus
steady mountain
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Huh, always thought it was something special

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I'll have to see how far I can get the Tobii to turn once I'm back from visiting home, didn't remember being able to get it vertical no matter how far I turned my head

serene lotus
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Mind your neck rotating the camera hahah

steady mountain
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Dropping this here to just revive the thread Dussy

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@green hollow happy to give some feedback here if you want

green hollow
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Happy to listen bud. But Im logging off now. Got an early start tomorrow. Going away for a couple of days for a shoot. Let's catchup on Saturday.

steady mountain
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Sure, feel free to just ping me

green hollow
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Will do. GN

lament scroll
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Does anyone have any tips regarding DOF? I just got reshade a few days ago and all I can figure out is how to make stuff blurry, canโ€™t quite figure out focus yet

steady mountain
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!f4 may help

fresh terraceBOT
steady mountain
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90% of the dof is ingame, no ReShade

lament scroll
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Oh damn I had no idea there was in game blur, thatโ€™s a game changer

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Thank you!

lapis kayak
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is there a way to set the focus distance?

lament scroll
autumn heron
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@serene lotus best place for chat

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Forgot it too

serene lotus
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I also forgot about it, thanks.

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So, be careful with levels. You may easily overdo it.

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unless you got a really good eye and the monitor ๐Ÿ˜„

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This was the hardest sentence in my life.

autumn heron
autumn heron
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I use to edit on phone cuz of screen quality. Using Gimp I got back to my 32" tv on pc, but it loses a great amount of color detection

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So I probably get back editing on phone and correcting tiny visual things (like grain) on the tv

serene lotus
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You don't have a proper monitor? Do you require donating one? ๐Ÿ˜„

autumn heron
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I need stop buying ccu for that๐Ÿคฃ

serene lotus
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Let's talk here @steady mountain @edgy magnet @cobalt swift

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@astro, your shots are asking for some serious upscaling. So much detail to enhance ๐Ÿ˜„

cobalt swift
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Yeah all my pictures are in 1080p so I miss a lot of detail

steady mountain
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I do need to play more, Mono found some real nice lighting on the pads at Seraphim

serene lotus
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No, not that you missed it, it's there, and it's so crisp, man.

cobalt swift
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If I had a better PC I would run it at 1440p but my PC is booty

serene lotus
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did you adjust in-game brightness and contrast settings?

cobalt swift
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Contrast is like 60 but thats it

steady mountain
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Oh, I know you've been aching to shoot the Hull C Matt, you managed to fly one yet?

serene lotus
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Hah, it's so difficult to create a realistic female face.

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these are very good.

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she's clearly Asian, or something.

cobalt swift
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Yeah idk I quickly made a new character

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Its so hard to make "decent" looking people

serene lotus
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and this is my favourite helmet

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Odyssey

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or Horizon

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or both?

cobalt swift
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Yeah I love it. I just with the glass on it didnt like blur with the Depth of Field blur

serene lotus
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xD

cobalt swift
serene lotus
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have you seen Venture Pathfinder with its super reflective surface? ๐Ÿ˜„

cobalt swift
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I probably have seen it but I dont remember it off the top of my head

serene lotus
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It's worth checking it. Do you have more of that Asian lady?

cobalt swift
steady mountain
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The face textures are amazing but I hate how old everyone always looks lol (really hoping for updated hairstyles and beards)

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Old or tired

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I tend to lean towards helmets that obscure the face so I can just focus on the armour/ environment/ ships but that's me

serene lotus
#

I totally get that. I'm moved by the eyes, and facial expressions though it's difficult to achieve something realistic.

steady mountain
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The eyes are real nice, recently got a webcam for work so I might see what horrors I can achieve when I hop in again

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I wish we had a better camera for super up close/ micro shots, I love capturing just the small details that CIG are fucking amazing at

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Need to do a photoshoot of the Hull C actually

serene lotus
#

Oh, soo jelly of that ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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That engineering section makes me happy

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Haven't been able to fly one yet?

serene lotus
#

I was secretly hoping they'd sell them at some point before the patch but that would be too good to be true.

steady mountain
#

So did I actually, surprised me they haven't pushed to sell

serene lotus
#

the animation of the spindles...

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jesus.

steady mountain
#

It's hot

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I won't lie

serene lotus
#

How these panels unfold.

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like a f*cking flower, or something.

steady mountain
#

Pretty much

serene lotus
#

Guy who committed hull c is a genius.

steady mountain
#

If you've got PTU access I'll get mine out tomorrow so you can play around with it

serene lotus
#

Oh, yes, please!

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And thank you ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
#

My sleep is unsure of what time zone it's supposed to be in so it'll be in the afternoon (plus it's too fucking hot to play in the day right now)

serene lotus
#

I need to twist teh spindle blink blink I'll be around tomorrow to hunt you down ๐Ÿ™‚

steady mountain
#

Yeah just gimme a ping or dm me and i'll hop on

serene lotus
#

thanks, man.

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appreciated.

steady mountain
#

No problem, always happy to share ships with people

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What makes the game fun

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And soon enough i'll be diving into Starfield and completely forget about SC till I eventually come back to it

cobalt swift
#

Star Field is good but its doesnt replace SC imo

steady mountain
#

I hope there's a photomode because it looks gorgeous

steady mountain
#

Nah, I know it won't replace SC

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Oooh excellent

steady mountain
#

Plus I love Bethesda Jankโ„ข๏ธ

serene lotus
#

check it out, photo mode is really good.

steady mountain
#

I've been generally avoiding the discussion, wanting to go in mostly blind

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I'm sure you've got some good captures in it though

serene lotus
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You must try it on your own, man ๐Ÿ˜„

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you'll love it

steady mountain
#

Oo nice shots

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I can probably think of a few good ways to use that jetpack shot

serene lotus
#

yup, and there are different verions, end of spoilers. I'm currently playing SF and I pretty much like it.

steady mountain
#

Well not shot, the pose

serene lotus
#

yeah, I get you.

steady mountain
#

Yeah i've been listening to the ost while i've been working lol

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Bethesda usually doesn't lack when it comes to music but it's getting me excited for it

serene lotus
#

They know how to tease.

cobalt swift
steady mountain
#

As long as the gameplay isn't Skyrim/ FO4 awkward and the gameplay is enough to keep me engaged and happy then i'm not complaining

steady mountain
serene lotus
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Just remember this is rpg not a space sim ๐Ÿ˜„

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@astro, what GPU are you using?

steady mountain
#

I'm well aware, i've seen videos of the 'space flight'

serene lotus
#

I literally came back to SC because I started playing SF.

steady mountain
#

Baldur's Gate 3 has fewer cinematics than Starfield has fast travel cinematics lol

steady mountain
serene lotus
#

he shoots he scores! ๐Ÿ˜„

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yeah, people expected God knows what. I myself expected God knows what.

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SC is clunky but it has its moments.

steady mountain
#

To be honest, i'm expecting Skyrim but you're in space and magic has been replaced with excessive firepower

serene lotus
#

what it's lacking, SC has it.

steady mountain
#

And then i'm using the console commands I memorised over my countless hours in a 12 year old game to break the new game that probably uses the same engine but slightly updated

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Yeah, i've heard mosty good things from what I have seen and heard

serene lotus
#

console commands? I've been messing with visual commands, shadowpoolsize etc.

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these really help.

steady mountain
#

Huh, didn't know about those

serene lotus
#

Oh, you're talking about SF ๐Ÿ˜„

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I meant SC, hahah

steady mountain
#

I only really messed around with the ones that interact with the gameplay, but I suppose a new engine would add new commands too

serene lotus
#

12 year-old game, lol

steady mountain
#

Ohhhh

serene lotus
#

so accurate

steady mountain
#

I forgot sc was also aged lol

serene lotus
#

hahah, what a coincidance

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and counting...

steady mountain
#

Damn, Skyrim had like 5 releases in the time it's taken SC to get to where it is

serene lotus
#

and it might and will have the 6th ๐Ÿ˜„

cobalt swift
serene lotus
#

I spent good times with that GPU, man.

steady mountain
#

"To celebrate the successful release of Starfield, we have optimised and added 16x the graphical fidelity to bring you... Skyrim Mobile" - Todd Howard in 6 month's time

steady mountain
serene lotus
#

If you forget about RT then this is still a valid GPU, yup

steady mountain
#

I came to the pc game late so I skipped straight to the 2060 and now i'm on the 3080

serene lotus
#

Oh

steady mountain
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The 10's can't even do RT, can they?

serene lotus
#

no, they can't

steady mountain
#

I'm sure it came with the 20's as Nvidia's benchmark in gpus

serene lotus
#

correct.

steady mountain
serene lotus
#

Astro, so you play on low/medium and switch to high for screenshots, or...?

cobalt swift
serene lotus
#

how much ram do you have?

cobalt swift
#

32gb of 3800mhz

serene lotus
#

you can go 4K, if you set custom res

steady mountain
#

I'm not really sure how much of a difference high/ v high makes ingame, you're mostly relying on the cpu and ram to get good gameplay

edgy magnet
#

I did that today, was rough for frames

cobalt swift
serene lotus
steady mountain
#

Yeah, it's not too hard to do

edgy magnet
#

Yeah it was easy

cobalt swift
edgy magnet
#

Iโ€™ve got a 3070, 32gb ram, and a Rosen 5700x

steady mountain
#

You just gotta remember to reset your res ingame before you switch back otherwise you get a hard time coming back into the game lol

steady mountain
#

A very high quality slideshow

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Granted, it's not so bad sometimes but with enough shit around you your game will tank

edgy magnet
#

How does it do with hair at that res?

serene lotus
#

high res greatly helps with DoF artifacts.

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and clouds shaders

steady mountain
#

Yeah, DoF in the game is sucky as it is, volumetric clouds are forever the bane of my existance because they're always so damn grainy

serene lotus
#

yeah, I always switch to 2880p when taking clouds

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otherwise, it's a shitshow ๐Ÿ˜„

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upscaling is also a solution, just for artifacts

edgy magnet
#

I used the one online flattened a lot of my detail

steady mountain
#

You need to use the right model(s), I used to use it but i've been going more for just improving my general photography and post skills

serene lotus
#

Have you tried cupscale? You'd need to download it though

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It's phenomenal.

edgy magnet
#

I havenโ€™t but Iโ€™ve read the entire thread before this and want to look into it. Iโ€™ve also seen some of the reshade.fx

steady mountain
#

I don't know if 1ch0 is still around or if they've also taken a break as many others have done, but they're the grandmaster of cupscale

cobalt swift
steady mountain
#

ReShade is good too, just don't go overboard

serene lotus
#

Astro, the only hard thing about is to figure out the right models. After that it's ez.

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I can always post a list of my models, and other guys will surely throw their five cents to it.

steady mountain
#

The right models and making sure the file size isn't an outrageous 50+mb lol

serene lotus
#

guilty as charged. I sometimes allow myself to post a monster.

steady mountain
#

Case in point: 94mb

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And likely to crash some people's discord lol

serene lotus
#

@Astro this is using two simple models, one of your shots. it's comparison in GIF, play it and look for details.

steady mountain
#

But because I either used the wrong model or just went overboard, those series of pictures actually lack a tonne of detail and if you zoom in, look more soupy than high quality

steady mountain
#

These three are my favourites though

steady mountain
cobalt swift
#

Do you guys have the link to it by chance?

serene lotus
cobalt swift
steady mountain
#

In hindsight it really didn't need me messing around with it in cupscale but that's how you learn I guess

serene lotus
steady mountain
#

I'm still annoyed every time I look at them that I didn't keep the originals because I never realised how messy the finer details got

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I might go and retake those someday

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Super super happy with the colour palette and compositon with those

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These were all taken 1080 and without reshade (I think), I didn't edit them personally because I wasn't doing post at the time but it just goes to show that you don't have to shoot in 4k+ or have any ridiculous changes done to make an image look good

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They were edited in cupscale to be denoised and I think slightly upscaled? Not sure on the latter, all done courtesy of 1ch0

serene lotus
#

love all of them, 400i is mint.

steady mountain
#

I know right? I love that picture

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Had it as my desktop for ages

serene lotus
#

yeah, 1ch0 taught us all about cupscale ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
#

1ch0 is the grandmaster of cupscale, we are blessed to have them magic up our photos on occasion

serene lotus
#

amen to that, pal.

steady mountain
#

the Terrapin one I love too, that one turned out great

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And god bless the Meridian paint lol

#

Goddamnit now I have to get back in and take photos

serene lotus
#

Once SCaddict, always one.

steady mountain
#

I can't help it, no matter how dry the updates can be or how much the devs fuck up sometimes, it's still the game of my dreams

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I can't not want to play it again

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Here's hoping I don't have to rebind everything again

serene lotus
#

I get it, man. SC is my dream game, too ๐Ÿ™‚

cobalt swift
#

It also sucks bc I dont have very many ships to take pics of

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Thats why I have so many pics of the same ship lol

serene lotus
#

currently I only own 600i

cobalt swift
#

Yeah I only own an MSR

steady mountain
#

I own many and I still only take pictures of the 400 and maybe one or two other ships lol

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But I get to share those ships with others so it's okay

cobalt swift
#

Do you guys use FOIP to get the facial expressions?

steady mountain
#

Yeah, but feels like a drunkard is trying to play charades to get people to guess the emotion

cobalt swift
#

Yeah exactly I have trouble setting up/finding good scenes

serene lotus
autumn heron
serene lotus
autumn heron
#

Think I never gave the attention it deserves. But I'm struggling with resolution now and it surelly can save something

autumn heron
#

My Starfield its not accepting DSR tech and I just can play/take pictures in 1080p ๐Ÿ˜ข

autumn heron
serene lotus
autumn heron
#

oh really?

serene lotus
#

Yeah, the game look overall good but detail for high-res captures is just not there.

autumn heron
#

So, I'll reduce my efforts to it.

serene lotus
#

It's clear they had to make a lot of sacrifices performance-wise.

autumn heron
#

I already like a lot the results on fullHD. I was hoping to have bigger pics, actually

serene lotus
#

so cupscale is your friend here.

autumn heron
#

They have their own engine "limitations" too

autumn heron
serene lotus
#

do you have it installed?

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Or you need a link?

#

you can also just google cupscale and you're good to go.

autumn heron
#

I already download from a link you've posted here before

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I'll search to learn how to use it, now

serene lotus
#

second link is a list of ESRGAN models

autumn heron
#

๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

cobalt swift
#

Oh god the picture is 155 MBs lol

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@serene lotus This was my attempt at using cupscale

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Oh wait

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Idk why its not imbeding its a PNG

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Maybe bc its so big

serene lotus
cobalt swift
#

Yeah I upscaled it by 200% so its a juicy file size

serene lotus
#

which model have you used?

cobalt swift
#

I just chose one from the website you sent with the ESRGAN models

serene lotus
#

The resolution is huge but I don't really see the upscaling. Try different model ๐Ÿ™‚

cobalt swift
#

What resolution is it lol

serene lotus
#

it's 17k

cobalt swift
serene lotus
#

๐Ÿ˜„

cobalt swift
#

What models do you mainly use?

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Or do you switch

serene lotus
#

if you load a pic in cupscale so it's visible in the preview window, you can only upscale the visible part of it using the button Refresh Preview (cutout)

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this way you can preview the model without having to process the entire image

cobalt swift
#

This is the upscale difference between mine

serene lotus
#

I can see the difference but it's in no way 17k quality. Different models will process particular image differently. The fact they are meant to "upscale" something doesn't mean they will make everything sharper and clearer. that depends solely on the model and the image you process.

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there are few models I use most often

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let me show you

cobalt swift
#

Yeah I will have to keep messing with it

serene lotus
#

GainRes V3

cobalt swift
#

Also what are you settings for this window

serene lotus
#

this one is also great

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why you set new size 130 procent?

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leave everything at 100

cobalt swift
#

Idk I was just experimenting

serene lotus
#

that's why your file is so big ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
serene lotus
#

install PowerToys for windows so you can have a resize option under the right mouse button, customisable

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that's only one of the funcionalities available, it's a really useful suite

cobalt swift
serene lotus
#

GainRes goes to the default one

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Whenever you will try to chain Real ESRGAN model with another one you will get a notification that you're trying to chain incompatible models, some models are miss-named so you experiment with that. You can chain up to 6 models per single render.

cobalt swift
#

Ok this is attempt 2

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This one isnt 150 MBs so thats an improvment

serene lotus
#

few trials and errors and you'll get it right

cobalt swift
#

It looks way more crisp and smooth around the nose and eyes

edgy magnet
steady mountain
#

Yeah they can look real nice

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But you can also end up with an almost cartoony/ liquid/ soupy effect

edgy magnet
#

Yeah, that's what is happening here. Granted, I'm pretty sure I installed it incorrectly and only used the default model.

steady mountain
#

You would have installed it correctly, it's the models that you need to fine tune

#

Matt listed his models up here somewhere, they probably do a much better job/ more precice AA and preserving texture quality

edgy magnet
#

I did see those, but ahven't put them in yet

cobalt swift
#

This is one of the ones he recommended and I tried it, its very good

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Just click this button

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and drag and drop the path file into the folder it opens

edgy magnet
#

Sweet, I'll drop those in when they finish. I appreciate it!
How do you go about fine tuning model? Is that where thepython comes in? Sorry, I haven't had time to deep dive into this yet.

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That model did do a much better job at preserving the details without washing out the texture.

serene lotus
#

What about a screenshot competition only for new players? It can be easily verified if someone only started playing by checking their RSI account. We could all donate to create a gift for a winner or something.

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Hell, I can donate myself for some set, I just wish to see the channel going again.

steady mountain
#

Yeah, winner gets a paint or something

serene lotus
#

@steady mountain @autumn heron @slow oar Not letting you off the hook that easily

steady mountain
#

I support it

serene lotus
#

Yeah, man. A small thing is enough I believe.

#

@grizzled wren We need your help organising a screenshot competition for new players, with some prize pool ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
#

I mean if we just have a small pool where people put some stuff into it then that can dictate what budget (so to speak) we have for it

serene lotus
#

agreed.

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I feel like a daddy ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
#

Papa Hare will give you treats if you post good screenshots lol

serene lotus
#

Lol

#

I'm glad you agree with the idea, man. It's been pretty dead lately.

steady mountain
#

Yeah, I loved being on the hof panel and being able to hopefully make some new player's day by chosing their shot

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I'd probably annoy Sparky with how many screenshots I choose every time, but hey, it's a nice feeling

serene lotus
#

I was only once on the panel but it was fun

grizzled wren
serene lotus
#

awww, thanks you ๐Ÿ˜—

steady mountain
#

This automatically makes Sparky the best mod on the team PicoLove

grizzled wren
#

Wait until we approve it lol

serene lotus
autumn heron
#

No doubt

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Im on it! For sure!!

serene lotus
#

Awesome, you better think now about your contribution to the prize pool xD

lament scroll
#

It wasnโ€™t even that good of a screenshot iirc

autumn heron
lament scroll
#

Found it

autumn heron
#

There are many reasons to classify a picture

steady mountain
#

That's composed quite well, even if you didn't realise it

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The main focus is in the right hand side, your character lining up pretty well with the grid you find in cameras (rule of thirds) and the light point is also on a main focus point on that grid, where the bottom left lines intersect

serene lotus
serene lotus
#

And the quantum travel effect is superb.

fluid vector
#

Fill me in guys whatz happenin

steady mountain
#

We want to revitalise the screenshot love

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So Matt thought to host some themed things every so often and suggested we start with like a 'new player' screenshot comp for those who haven't really posted much/ afraid to post

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We're slowly amassing a small prize pool so we can dish those out

lament scroll
serene lotus
lament scroll
serene lotus
#

the sty?

#

@slow oar

#

Hi ๐Ÿ˜„

lament scroll
serene lotus
#

Ahhh

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I read that guy's article about it yesterday.

autumn heron
#

karthu carries stanton as it front light

serene lotus
#

Santokyai is dope, man.

#

I love its cockpit. It says "Try me. alien b*tch"

lament scroll
#

Talon is right up there too

steady mountain
#

I'm a Scorp kinda guy

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But i'm bias because I love X-Wings

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Plus ludicrous firepower in a relatively small package

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But anyway, wrong channel for that

lament scroll
#

Sexy af

autumn heron
lament scroll
autumn heron
#

For real..

serene lotus
autumn heron
#

I'm not a fan of alien ships

lament scroll
autumn heron
steady mountain
autumn heron
serene lotus
lament scroll
serene lotus
#

Oof....

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Maaaaan

autumn heron
#

Can we vote for HOFs here too?! haha

serene lotus
#

hahah

#

Let's

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xD

lament scroll
serene lotus
#

It is, man.

autumn heron
#

and I just forget it many times

serene lotus
#

victor didn't like blur too much, still his shots were mint, man.

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Maxper, as well.

#

There is this Irmdall

#

Guy's really really good.

lament scroll
#

I donโ€™t like excessive blur, but just just a touch makes or breaks a shot

lament scroll
#

Heโ€™s too good

serene lotus
#

No one's too good, man.

#

We speak to different parts of the audience. Look how many people are in this channel.

#

I mean, not this, but screenshots.

#

every time you post something.

#

It goes to all of them.

#

Also WeeHamster

#

this guy..

#

roar.

lament scroll
#

Ye definitely, I love seeing other peopleโ€™s interpretations of lighting and composition

serene lotus
#

There you go.

#

Are you taking part in the competition?

lament scroll
#

Also gives me inspiration for my shots

serene lotus
#

I mean, as a sponsor?

#

๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
lament scroll
serene lotus
#

fucking love you, man. All hands aboard, all that matters.

lament scroll
#

The only reason I have a talon in my fleet is that it was a prize

serene lotus
#

you won it?

lament scroll
#

100$ is steep for a fighter

#

Ye third place in the alien week photo contest

serene lotus
#

LoL. Congrats????

lament scroll
lament scroll
steady mountain
# serene lotus Maxper, as well.

Haven't seen Max around here much recently, I preferred the earlier stuff they did without loads of post edits actually, still did great stuff though

serene lotus
#

Too much edit is too much edit. We can all see when that happens.

#

I know, it's not easy to point it out.

steady mountain
#

Yeah, I always feel bad because it feels i'm taking a dig at them

lament scroll
#

There are some editing that Iโ€™m 100% behind tho, some dude was doing cel shaded shots of ships and the Corsair one was fuckin amazing

serene lotus
#

Nah. it's just a constructive criticism. I admire their work.

#

If I overdo with the blur I want someone to tell me xD

steady mountain
#

Yeah, we've all had our bad edit days

#

Went to use Cupscale to touch up recent shots only to remember there's a whole bunch of shit I have to do to get it working

#

Maybe later lol

slow oar
serene lotus
#

Hey, Lex.

#

Long time.

slow oar
#

Yeah, busy little piggy nowadays

steady mountain
serene lotus
#

poor fucking you, man. ๐Ÿ˜›

#

How have you been?

slow oar
autumn heron
#

Congrats again!!!! o7

serene lotus
#

Ah, man. You got it!

slow oar
#

Planning on getting some pics this weekend

serene lotus
#

Weow Weow Weow!!!

autumn heron
slow oar
#

Those aliens that were clearly made by a 6 year old Mexican kids in school?

lament scroll
#

Found the cel shading

#

Wish I knew how to do this

autumn heron
#

Ah, nice

#

I think CIG higlighted it somewhere.

steady mountain
steady mountain
#

I think it's art though, not a shader

#

It's far too clean to be a shader

#

Wish there was a shader like that though

lament scroll
#

This guy

lament scroll
steady mountain
#

There are some shaders for it but they're naff

lament scroll
#

Dragonball fighterZ, lethal league blaze, jet set radio, etc

#

Bomb rush cyberfunk

steady mountain
#

I'll have a look around and see if I can get a good shot in with the cell shader

fluid vector
#

i should probably play with my shaders i havent touched them since i got them

#

i dont even remember where my reshade folder is

lament scroll
steady mountain
fluid vector
#

i have made a borderlands shader

#

trying to balance it out so its cool but you can still read

#

alright i think i nailed it

#

with the UI being mostly readable

steady mountain
#

It's a weird look but could work

#

Borderlands has the advantage of being designed to look that way, of course

steady mountain
# serene lotus

Are those the models you use? Cupscale seems to be working again for me, for whatever reason. Not complaining about Python anymore

#

I may have spoken too soon

steady mountain
#

Fixed it, working as it should be now

#

Thank god

#

That was a pain in the arse

#

Not sure how much of a difference it really made, but now with AA!

cobalt swift
#

Looks amazing

#

I wish they would update Crusaders texture from far to make it looks more like it does up close

steady mountain
#

I like the classic look

cobalt swift
#

Because from far away now it kinda reminds me of a Starfield planet texture

steady mountain
#

But yeah, changes are good

cobalt swift
steady mountain
#

Be nice if they could smooth out the edges of planets and moons a bit

cobalt swift
#

I wish there where some moons with like no atmosphere

#

Like no little haze above the surface

#

Like the real moon doesnโ€™t have any haze like earth does bc of its lack of atmo

#

Like this

#

Just a clean edge

steady mountain
#

Yeah

#

Sometimes the atmosphere haze just really abruptly cuts off, I don't know if that happens in space too but it's irritating it isn't a smoother transition

fluid vector
serene lotus
steady mountain
#

I seemed to have fixed it last night

#

Spent far too long fixing it though lol so who knows

steady mountain
#

We have more meridian paints

#

I am so happy

#

I love using the reflections to get some really nice colours on the ships

steady mountain
autumn heron
steady mountain
#

I was thinking the same thing lol

#

KRF is a right bastard to land near though

autumn heron
#

Ah, yeah.

steady mountain
#

I can get into the escape tube most of the time, can get quite few people down there in one ship

autumn heron
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We can use piracy as a theme, not the same location

steady mountain
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We have two locations, one is outside the tube and the other seems to be the garages?

serene lotus
steady mountain
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Could work, depends when/ if we get the ok from the mod team

fluid vector
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shaders cool

steady mountain
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Shader's wacky

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Should try it out with the alien qt

autumn heron
lament scroll
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Ayo anyone here know about reshade error codes

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I'm not getting screenshots saved anymore

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Here's my error log, I've tried looking into what format 10 is but I have no idea

lament scroll
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Figured it out, ReShade doesnโ€™t support hdr pics

serene lotus
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@autumn heron I'm learning to move the convo from screenshots channel to here.

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So, catch 22 about the paint?

serene lotus
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Hence I forgot about HDR for now.

autumn heron
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It's a shame the 100i's foundation paint isn't standalone.

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I don't wanna keep the 100i in hangar

serene lotus
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It's a nice ship but pretty replaceable with something much better.

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I mean, I love the design of Origin ships, in general, so I'm biased.

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Oh btw, be careful with HDR when taking snaps.

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They might not display correctly depending on the way you capture your content, like with those funking jxr files.

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I use Nvidia Experience and it saves files this way. A pain in the a**.

steady mountain
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When exploration comes in, Origin is going to become much more useful

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And the egg will have its rework

serene lotus
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I will go back to 600i when exploration is a thing.

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I love the ship and I love the idea of traversing the universe alone.

steady mountain
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I will go back to it when either exploration comes in or the rework comes in

serene lotus
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med bed? Aye, Sir.

steady mountain
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Plus it looks hot

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Especially the touring

serene lotus
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hahah, yes it does.

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I prefer explorer.

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it comes with G12, nominally.

steady mountain
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I keep forgetting the touring exists because the ex is so mainstream (and better)

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I've just got the entire origin pack in my hangar, I have no shame in it

serene lotus
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Bravo to you, pal. I love Origin ships.

steady mountain
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I just love Origin, something special about them

serene lotus
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I mean, the hull line of 600i is just mind-blowing.

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how they wrapped it around the engines, etc

steady mountain
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Yeah, their flowing design language is just nice

serene lotus
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Hull C is beautiful, man. I mean, it's heavy af but I can imagine me playing with others, on my ship, earning some serious money.

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First time in my career in SC I want to play with others.

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f lol.

steady mountain
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Yeah I really hope that newer updates bring in that need/ want to play with others and get into the game a bit more

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Speaking of Origin

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G12 just got added to the progress tracker

serene lotus
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I mean, so far I wasn't even considering it when the co-op is was mostly shotting bad guys and robbing the others.

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G12?

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Oh f*ck, man!

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yessss

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I can't wait.

steady mountain
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The zoomy ground egg

serene lotus
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It's beautiful.

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Just like Lynx is.

steady mountain
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I feel like they should be faster than the cyclones because they're more aerodynamic

serene lotus
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and heavier?

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Much heavier?

steady mountain
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And they look so sleek

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Probably

serene lotus
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Yeah

steady mountain
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All that fancy is gonna weigh a bit

serene lotus
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The double glazed windows ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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Gotta keep the heat in

serene lotus
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and the nice view out

steady mountain
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Wide, panoramic roof and windshield

serene lotus
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plus, glass of Advocat.

steady mountain
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Fancy headlights that brighten up when you corner lol

serene lotus
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it's as posh as Origin.

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It should be made by them instead ๐Ÿ˜„

steady mountain
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Just as long as it stays reliable, can't have the electonics failing like their real world counterparts (that I shall not name) do

serene lotus
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lol, it's as reliable as the server which we both know the answer ๐Ÿ˜„

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Lost my cargo to 30K with Hull C, reloged, spawned the ship inside the station, with its spindles unfolded.

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I even managed to get to the bridge through a merger of the station and the ship, but couldn't fly it away.