#SS/Photography Discussions
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Sorry lol, it's a brilliant resource, would have posted more pictures but I'm not at my pc right now
@earnest kindle sorry for the ping, but let's take the conversation here so the mods don't get angry at us lol
You definitely have found your own style for photography though, as soon as I see high contrast/ high sharpness and texture detail I recognise it as yours
And it's clearly within the realms of realism without any drastic editing, I'm jealous it looks so good lol
I've been trying to focus more on my composition recently, so I've been avoiding everything but ReShade
Yeah exactly, I'm not trying to add anything that isn't there
I just want to highlight some details
But I'm glad a lot of people seem to like it.
Yeah, it's good
You've found a good balance between it all
Whenever I did editing, adding to what's there came first, things like contrast and stuff were a priority
Exactly, contrast is very important and a big part of making things look 'better'
I'm nowhere near an expert on photo editing but I try to get better at it.
Yea, for sure
I tried not to go too far with it, but I always felt like I could do better
So now I'm just trying to get my core photography improved before I try any of it again
For every picture I upload in this server, there are 5-7 that don't make it.
Maybe the odd picture or two if I really like it
Sometimes more
Yeah
I've been finding that more and more too
I do keep meaning to see if I can find grid/ golden ratio/ other overlays for ReShade but I kep forgetting
I feel like I can only do so well by eye before I start to drift from the actual framing of them
Yeah, I've been trying to challenge myself a bit with taking xyz ship to xyz location and doing a photoshoot with the two
No idea if I'm improving at all but hey, it's fun to do and makes me think about what I'm actually taking a picture of
Got Lorville and A18 next which will be interesting
This is all I do 
Think of certain themes and ideas and then select the ship and location that fit with it.
E
F
G?
I was establishing my presence
It's why i've been avoiding Lorville so much lol, can't think of the right ship and can't find some nice locations because it's all brown
Yeah I can understand, just go with something industrial
Yea, but I want to go with something that contrasts it a bit lol
Oh well, i'll find something
use origin
the ship designs contrast the city
anvil is more militant
I was thinking of using the 400 and the Penumbra paint
Matches the Hurston theme of black and gold
Same here
not mentioning cases where I do two different color corrections style and can't choose which one is better, saving the same picture twice
It isn't perfect, but I found an overlay for ReShade that roughly gives some rule of thirds grid lines if anyone's interested
late I know but penumbra does match well with lorville and so do most industrial
ships
also at least in my opinion sunset really helps lorville look less flat
Yeah, I need to just see what works
I've already used the 400i for my Orison shots so I want to try a different ship if I can
Anyone have some lesser known/ used ships they like to take shots of? Want to try different things
raft, merlin, bucc, herald are some of mine
The Herald has a real nice interior
The merlin/ archimedes I almost never see, might use one next time
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@rain python
I meant how much did it take to find pieces of ships and salvage them?
I want to calculate aUEC/hour to find if it is profitable
oh probably 1-5 minutes per good area of salvage. Had to find 1-2 areas each run so each run probably lasts 30-40 minutes
if you're good at it and you know where to land 35 minutes per run at about 190k a run. Probably 350k an hour more or less?
most people I've talked to say in a regular run you can probably make 200k an hour but those are rookie numbers haha
So it is good
For me anything below 100k/hour is not worth it
yeah this makes more than triple that
But salvage seems to be even better than mining
It is easier, more relaxing and the cycle is shorter (no refinery)
- even more money maybe
oh for sure more money more relaxing lower skill gap and way more consistent
if you have a prospector it's not half as good as a vulture nowadays lol
Maybe it will get nerfed
doubtful at least until T1 salvage is introduced
And still Vanguard bounties can provide you with higher profit but it is much more complicated and worse for your brain cells
yeah
Good morning
I'm thinking about using reshade to level up the screenshots
But my 2070super is already on max load when I play SC on my 4k monitor
So is it even a viable option to run reshade?
Because I assume it will add extra load to the GPU?
I was on a 2060 before upgrading, 4k 16:9 with ReShade gave me about 10fps
ReShade doesn't really have an impact
I've loaded up quite a few shaders and it was still pretty consistant
Hmm okay, I might start playing around with it then
Need to watch a couple vids first to see how it works ๐คฃ
It's really easy to get working
Hard bit is fine tuning it to get a good result/ result you like
I was lazy and just nicked Trini's preset they posted somewhere here and then changed that a little and slowly added to it myself
If anyone else uses some overlays to substitute having a viewport to help compose pictures, here's a golden ratio shader for ReShade I found
Has controllable opacity and a toggle between a fixed size or stretching to fit your screen
reallongexposure.fx is what you're looking for @serene lotus
I can grab the file if you don't have it
thanks, dude. I have them all loaded at all times ๐
I switch depending on the scene, not too often but still so it helps
Yeah, I gotta see what works
Been looking into taking higher quality shots recently though, not been looking into shaders all that much
I have been, used it a fair bit before but when I upgraded my pc I had to do a fresh install of everything so I haven't been using it much recently
Tried using it to downscale the 4k Antares shots to 2k but it doesn't want to work for me
what gpu you have?
3080
so you should be fine without any tricks
That's what I thought, it's been iffy though
Let me tell you models I use...
I think the problem is that it doesn't recognise that i've got python installed
The embedded installer never works for me
Gonna download latest version, see if that fixes anything
Uh oh
I had to manually install certain libraries
there are tutorials online telling what exactly to do in this case
now my GPU flies in cupscale
24 GB is a blessing ๐
anyway, that's my list.
I'll sort that out another time, heading home this evening so won't even be able to get to my pc for a few days
Oh boy that's quite the list
I use basically all of them sometimes, but these are the most versatile
JPEG will remove noise and make the file much smaller
I'd guess that gets a lot of use
Tried to post some shots on the community hub but the 10gb limit kills me
Mb yeah, gb would be perfect lol
you will be able to resize files from the context menu
you can set custom res and you will just click twice and the file will generate itself
no messing with the app, only the initial set up
jpg, png, bmp, you choose
I will use png till my dying breah lol
I often save in JPG when it is a final product. I figured how to keep the quality high enough.
plus, that prevents anyone from messing with it further since there's very little hidden data left
PNG preserves more information about the image, even the one we don't really see.
that's what makes the file bigger
it's handy during editing
but when you're done with it there is no point saving still in PNG
Always thought png was the straight up go-to for high quality images
If you imagine quality of the image as a swimming pool then PNG reaches to the half depth of it while JPG is the surface of the water.
DNG, RAW, etc goes to the bottom
we often don't see the bottom
Deep pools
I know the basics of it, just didn't realise most of png wasn't needed
it doesn't have to be this way, what's important is how you compress/save the file
and what was the original of it
Makes sense
like I said, JPEG model from cupscale will remove a lot of noise, making the file much smaller. Someone could say it's of a worse quality since it's smaller but you will look at it and say that's not the case.
PNG still contains a lot of data necessary for proper editing but not really important when it comes to a final product
if you know it's your final edit you may as well save the file as JPG using the right level of compression and color range
Here I was wondering what sorcery ingame/ shaders you were using but if only it were that simple
How much time in post do you spend then?
Well, I often use cupscale which takes up the most of the time
Or is it just shoot in high res with minimal changes via reshade, then just make the file size smaller?
some images render in 5 minutes
I try to capture images in 7K but sometimes that's not viable
cause you capture individual frames
I tried capturing at some ridiculous res and just straight up crashed my game so I need to find a more reasonable size lol
so, I capture a snap, I load it up to cupscale, render it, save the png, load it up in lightroom, edit it, save it (often as jpg) and then sometimes I go back to cupscale to remove unnecessary noise
what's your RAM?
32gb
what display do you have?
3440x1440
Goddamn, mine was 400 quid
check HP website dude
it's crazy cheap
the quality is amazing for this price range
and the monitor looks minimalistic and elegant
anyway
Oh no, it is 34in, just checked it
on your display, depending on the model and the connection you could go as high as 6880x2880
hahah
Yeah, i've a Dell, does some good stuff
Dell is awesome, dude
I can, Nvidia's DSR lets me go up there
one of the best display companies out there
nah
forget DSR
create a custom res
and physically switch to it
Surely DSR does the same?
Not at all
Oh right, is it because it then runs it at 1440p?
Same scale just a better image or something like that, I forget exactly how dsr works
DSR upscales the given resolution to the desired one and then downscales it back to the one of the display
Right
so, if you choose 8K or whatever the resulting image you capture won't still be that
it will be 1440
sure, there will be the gain of the upscaling but in your native resolution
it's basically cupscale but in real time
okay, still try setting up custom res and compare the quality
Yeah, i'll do that
Just gotta get cupscale to work again so I can downscale to a reasonable file size lol
Thanks, really happy how those ones turned out
Been really keeping composure in mind lately
I think it's good enough for me to now look into increasing the overall image quality, hence why i've been doing all this
you mean composition?
Yeah composition, losing my composure and getting mixed up now lol
Yeah, scorpius looks good
let me have a closer look....
bottom rigth corner
right*
plus, you could show the entire tail, it's slightly cropped
other than that, it's great
Damn didn't even notice the corner
the laser beams look like they were transcending the shot
left---right
the contrast is amazing
color balance...
the red appears to be slightly blue -ish but it's literally 1-2% of the temperature
i like the pic
I think I was a bit heavy handed with editing previously, so i've been trying to do smaller adjustments to contrast and stuff
Yeah, it's a rabbit hole lol
plus, you always have to assume not everyone has a display like yours
contrast will appear differently on IPS and on VA and TN
most people playing SC - I presume - use VA
Yeah, I check them on my second monitor
that's really good
don't forget to check them on your phone, as well
times we live in... xD
Really helps with contrast and colour edits, my main monitor is lovely but the second one (my old one) is a pretty cheap one so it's a good way to see if it might look overdone on other displays
I don't often check on my phone though, that's not a bad shout
yeah
the blacks are usually washed out
and you can see the edges you can't see on your Dell ๐
I mean your old monitor
it's probably TN
I think the old one might be VA actually
But even so, looks drastically different to the primary
Va is a low response
IPS is a wide gamut and angles
but VA has a better contrast
depending on the model
Yeah, they all vary slightly
And I think this is my secondary, been a few years since I bought it so can't remember exactly
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-C24F390-24-Inch-Curved-Monitor/dp/B08WWRK293
ohhh, so it's a curved one
obviously they don't state whether it's an IPS or VA but 99% it's the latter
majority of curved displays are VA
Tried to find an affordable ultrawide with good picture quality and this one came up and was a good price so I went for it
That's a pretty damn good deal
it is, right? ๐
YOu won't find anything cheaper in this category
and still the monitor is great
fine, HDR is bit washed out but I don't use it that much
It works for a few games but others just look terrible
Star Citizen looks pretty good on mine, but the problem are the images
Destiny 2 uses it iirc and that looks great, if I turn it on for Legion then it's just bright and washed out
you capture WITH the HDR and then you try to view them....
HDR doesn't carry over, does it?
it does
depending on which capture technology you use
I use only Nvidia overlay
it captures everything
Not bad
it's quite useful cause if you play more games, it creates a separate folder for each game specified in 3D settings in Nvidia panel
so they don't get all mixed up
I concurrently play about 8 different titles so it would be a nightmare sorting shit out
I got 9K snaps from SC alone, that's after I deleted a lot of them today.
I can't make up my mind
they all might come in handy ๐
I only really take serious screenshots in sc, i'd probably just use reshade for others if I start doing them there
And I thought 700 was a lot
Christ...
8 years, mate.
xD
I've only been able to have reshade work since 3.17? Whenever we got the facial texture updates
So my backlog is only since then
and I was out for a long while cause I hated this shit to its guts ๐
keep doing what you're doing, Tobias. You're in the lead already, pal.
the scorpius looks great.
just repeat that.
Means a lot hearing that from you, cheers
you will sometimes take amazing screenshots and hardly anyone will like it. That doesn't mean a thing, if it's great for you it means that you gained the most important fan.
You.
Yeah, i'm definitely my harshest critic
I compare what I do to others far too often lol
don't.
you never know how others process their content.
and they usually don't tell.
Yeah, it's a bad habit i'm trying to contain
Definitely helps when I focus on something and I end up proud of it, like some of my more recent stuff
Dude, I sometimes see others pictures and I'm like "motherfucker..." ๐
Or if I can see how much I have improved over the years
if you see something good, try to make it your own
good things should be an inspiration not a drawback
people came before you and people will come after you
year from now you will explain shit to someone else
telling you things you tell me now
same script, different cast
Okay, so enough praising your ass
now, think of changing that shitty profile picture ๐
Fine, it's beautiful and stuff and you should be proud of yourself but unless you're planning to put it out in the gallery....
I would but I can't find a shot that fits it well
mind that most people use discord in dark mode now
white frame is pretty blinding
and that thing looks like a leming ran over by a truck
lemming*
It was literally a scribble that I used to test out some brushes
Realised it looked like a face and stuck with it
Okay, so it's a scribble
nice
to meet you
blob
๐
you can easily fit into the profile picture a face, a helmet, a whole person but with a good contrast or even a scenery with the ground being clearly separate from the sky, etc
the stuff is small
play with the light
I mean, you did it already
it's black and white
build on that
Yea, I think the biggest problem was the file sizes were too big lol
See?
Yeah, seems easy enough
get powertoys
I did, managed to upload the scorp pics earlier
told you, right click, context menu, you just choose defined res and you're go
here?
Cool
For sure, thanks for the chat - learnt a lot
Oh I definitely will be, no need to worry about that
Hey Matt, what do you do for your vertical/ square shots, you just using custom resolutions to play the game and take shots in?
Square photos are just a crop from a regular one. Vertical are made using Tobii ๐
Huh, always thought it was something special
I'll have to see how far I can get the Tobii to turn once I'm back from visiting home, didn't remember being able to get it vertical no matter how far I turned my head
Mind your neck rotating the camera hahah
Dropping this here to just revive the thread 
@green hollow happy to give some feedback here if you want
Happy to listen bud. But Im logging off now. Got an early start tomorrow. Going away for a couple of days for a shoot. Let's catchup on Saturday.
Sure, feel free to just ping me
Will do. GN
Does anyone have any tips regarding DOF? I just got reshade a few days ago and all I can figure out is how to make stuff blurry, canโt quite figure out focus yet
!f4 may help
Advanced Camera Mode - press F4
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90% of the dof is ingame, no ReShade
is there a way to set the focus distance?
You have to manually find it by holding f4 and using arrow keys, once you find it, use f4 and scroll wheel to move towards and away from camera
I also forgot about it, thanks.
So, be careful with levels. You may easily overdo it.
unless you got a really good eye and the monitor ๐
This was the hardest sentence in my life.
Thats surely what I'm doing
Failling in both cases hahaha
I use to edit on phone cuz of screen quality. Using Gimp I got back to my 32" tv on pc, but it loses a great amount of color detection
So I probably get back editing on phone and correcting tiny visual things (like grain) on the tv
You don't have a proper monitor? Do you require donating one? ๐
I need stop buying ccu for that๐คฃ
Let's talk here @steady mountain @edgy magnet @cobalt swift
@astro, your shots are asking for some serious upscaling. So much detail to enhance ๐
Yeah all my pictures are in 1080p so I miss a lot of detail
I do need to play more, Mono found some real nice lighting on the pads at Seraphim
No, not that you missed it, it's there, and it's so crisp, man.
If I had a better PC I would run it at 1440p but my PC is booty
did you adjust in-game brightness and contrast settings?
Thanks lol I took inspiration from this picture of yours https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248637571284992000/1150111876349436025/Squadron_42_-_Star_Citizen_Screenshot_2023.09.09_-_17.48.30.89.jpg
But I wasnt able to get the correct lighting lol
Not really
Contrast is like 60 but thats it
Oh, I know you've been aching to shoot the Hull C Matt, you managed to fly one yet?
This was my attempt
Hah, it's so difficult to create a realistic female face.
these are very good.
she's clearly Asian, or something.
Yeah idk I quickly made a new character
Its so hard to make "decent" looking people
Yeah I love it. I just with the glass on it didnt like blur with the Depth of Field blur
xD
Yeah idk its one of them lmao
have you seen Venture Pathfinder with its super reflective surface? ๐
I probably have seen it but I dont remember it off the top of my head
I have more pictures of her in that same scene, but I havent taken anymore in different scenes. I will probably do it later
The face textures are amazing but I hate how old everyone always looks lol (really hoping for updated hairstyles and beards)
Old or tired
I tend to lean towards helmets that obscure the face so I can just focus on the armour/ environment/ ships but that's me
I totally get that. I'm moved by the eyes, and facial expressions though it's difficult to achieve something realistic.
The eyes are real nice, recently got a webcam for work so I might see what horrors I can achieve when I hop in again
I wish we had a better camera for super up close/ micro shots, I love capturing just the small details that CIG are fucking amazing at
Need to do a photoshoot of the Hull C actually
Oh, soo jelly of that ๐
I was secretly hoping they'd sell them at some point before the patch but that would be too good to be true.
So did I actually, surprised me they haven't pushed to sell
Pretty much
Guy who committed hull c is a genius.
If you've got PTU access I'll get mine out tomorrow so you can play around with it
My sleep is unsure of what time zone it's supposed to be in so it'll be in the afternoon (plus it's too fucking hot to play in the day right now)
I need to twist teh spindle blink blink I'll be around tomorrow to hunt you down ๐
Yeah just gimme a ping or dm me and i'll hop on
No problem, always happy to share ships with people
What makes the game fun
And soon enough i'll be diving into Starfield and completely forget about SC till I eventually come back to it
Star Field is good but its doesnt replace SC imo
I hope there's a photomode because it looks gorgeous
There is
But it's a game in space so i'm drawn to it
Plus I love Bethesda Jankโข๏ธ
I posted two shots in https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/1148758905703366726
check it out, photo mode is really good.
I've been generally avoiding the discussion, wanting to go in mostly blind
I'm sure you've got some good captures in it though
yup, and there are different verions, end of spoilers. I'm currently playing SF and I pretty much like it.
Well not shot, the pose
yeah, I get you.
Yeah i've been listening to the ost while i've been working lol
Bethesda usually doesn't lack when it comes to music but it's getting me excited for it
They know how to tease.
Starfield its pretty hard to run, so I hope you have a decen PC too
As long as the gameplay isn't Skyrim/ FO4 awkward and the gameplay is enough to keep me engaged and happy then i'm not complaining
It's been good enough so far ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I'm well aware, i've seen videos of the 'space flight'
hahahah, yeah ๐
I literally came back to SC because I started playing SF.
Baldur's Gate 3 has fewer cinematics than Starfield has fast travel cinematics lol
I heard it bought quite a few people back into sc
he shoots he scores! ๐
yeah, people expected God knows what. I myself expected God knows what.
SC is clunky but it has its moments.
To be honest, i'm expecting Skyrim but you're in space and magic has been replaced with excessive firepower
That and more. But it's good. And it has a good plot. And it's fun to experiment with certain things.
what it's lacking, SC has it.
And then i'm using the console commands I memorised over my countless hours in a 12 year old game to break the new game that probably uses the same engine but slightly updated
Yeah, i've heard mosty good things from what I have seen and heard
console commands? I've been messing with visual commands, shadowpoolsize etc.
these really help.
Huh, didn't know about those
I only really messed around with the ones that interact with the gameplay, but I suppose a new engine would add new commands too
12 year-old game, lol
Ohhhh
so accurate
I forgot sc was also aged lol
Damn, Skyrim had like 5 releases in the time it's taken SC to get to where it is
and it might and will have the 6th ๐
1060 6gb 
I spent good times with that GPU, man.
"To celebrate the successful release of Starfield, we have optimised and added 16x the graphical fidelity to bring you... Skyrim Mobile" - Todd Howard in 6 month's time
Not a terrible gpu to have, should be able to run most games on med/ high still right? Maybe a few optimisations here and there
If you forget about RT then this is still a valid GPU, yup
I came to the pc game late so I skipped straight to the 2060 and now i'm on the 3080
Oh
The 10's can't even do RT, can they?
no, they can't
More like Low/Medium but yeah
I'm sure it came with the 20's as Nvidia's benchmark in gpus
correct.
Still not terrible considering some of the requirements modern games ask of us
Astro, so you play on low/medium and switch to high for screenshots, or...?
I usually stay on Medium/High for normal gameplay bc SC is soooo CPU bound. But when taking pics yeah I go to Very High
how much ram do you have?
32gb of 3800mhz
you can go 4K, if you set custom res
I'm not really sure how much of a difference high/ v high makes ingame, you're mostly relying on the cpu and ram to get good gameplay
I did that today, was rough for frames
Yeah but that requires me to go into Nividia Display Panel and do all that stuff right?
what's your specs?
Yeah, it's not too hard to do
Yeah it was easy
Yeah except when I do that I get a solid 5 FPS average ingame
Iโve got a 3070, 32gb ram, and a Rosen 5700x
You just gotta remember to reset your res ingame before you switch back otherwise you get a hard time coming back into the game lol
No I get that too lol
A very high quality slideshow
Granted, it's not so bad sometimes but with enough shit around you your game will tank
How does it do with hair at that res?
Yeah, DoF in the game is sucky as it is, volumetric clouds are forever the bane of my existance because they're always so damn grainy
yeah, I always switch to 2880p when taking clouds
otherwise, it's a shitshow ๐
upscaling is also a solution, just for artifacts
I used the one online flattened a lot of my detail
You need to use the right model(s), I used to use it but i've been going more for just improving my general photography and post skills
I havenโt but Iโve read the entire thread before this and want to look into it. Iโve also seen some of the reshade.fx
I don't know if 1ch0 is still around or if they've also taken a break as many others have done, but they're the grandmaster of cupscale
I can never figure out cupscale
ReShade is good too, just don't go overboard
You should try it out, it's great, man. Things it can do to a photo...oof.
Astro, the only hard thing about is to figure out the right models. After that it's ez.
I can always post a list of my models, and other guys will surely throw their five cents to it.
The right models and making sure the file size isn't an outrageous 50+mb lol
guilty as charged. I sometimes allow myself to post a monster.
Sick ship design, man.
@Astro this is using two simple models, one of your shots. it's comparison in GIF, play it and look for details.
But because I either used the wrong model or just went overboard, those series of pictures actually lack a tonne of detail and if you zoom in, look more soupy than high quality
Jeez
Is that cupscale
These three are my favourites though
Yeah, it does wonders
Do you guys have the link to it by chance?
Ouch, that res ๐
Thx
Yeah it's like a stupid 16k or something outrageous 
In hindsight it really didn't need me messing around with it in cupscale but that's how you learn I guess
Yeah, you need to overdo it at some point to go down with your own expectations ๐
I'm still annoyed every time I look at them that I didn't keep the originals because I never realised how messy the finer details got
I might go and retake those someday
Super super happy with the colour palette and compositon with those
These were all taken 1080 and without reshade (I think), I didn't edit them personally because I wasn't doing post at the time but it just goes to show that you don't have to shoot in 4k+ or have any ridiculous changes done to make an image look good
They were edited in cupscale to be denoised and I think slightly upscaled? Not sure on the latter, all done courtesy of 1ch0
love all of them, 400i is mint.
yeah, 1ch0 taught us all about cupscale ๐
1ch0 is the grandmaster of cupscale, we are blessed to have them magic up our photos on occasion
amen to that, pal.
the Terrapin one I love too, that one turned out great
And god bless the Meridian paint lol
Goddamnit now I have to get back in and take photos
ahahah, finally, man!
Once SCaddict, always one.
I can't help it, no matter how dry the updates can be or how much the devs fuck up sometimes, it's still the game of my dreams
I can't not want to play it again
Here's hoping I don't have to rebind everything again
I get it, man. SC is my dream game, too ๐
It also sucks bc I dont have very many ships to take pics of
Thats why I have so many pics of the same ship lol
currently I only own 600i
Yeah I only own an MSR
I own many and I still only take pictures of the 400 and maybe one or two other ships lol
But I get to share those ships with others so it's okay
What models do you use?
Do you guys use FOIP to get the facial expressions?
Yeah, but feels like a drunkard is trying to play charades to get people to guess the emotion
Yeah exactly I have trouble setting up/finding good scenes
Lol
That's all of them.
I need to learn how it works
It's really easy and works wonders.
Think I never gave the attention it deserves. But I'm struggling with resolution now and it surelly can save something
This result is amazing
My Starfield its not accepting DSR tech and I just can play/take pictures in 1080p ๐ข
I would like to use it only for upscaling and this amazing noise reduction
Starfield is not worth going higher than your native res. You're fine with full HD, man.
oh really?
Yeah, the game look overall good but detail for high-res captures is just not there.
So, I'll reduce my efforts to it.
It's clear they had to make a lot of sacrifices performance-wise.
I already like a lot the results on fullHD. I was hoping to have bigger pics, actually
For sure.
so cupscale is your friend here.
They have their own engine "limitations" too
Yep. Thats the reason I'm here 
do you have it installed?
Or you need a link?
you can also just google cupscale and you're good to go.
I already download from a link you've posted here before
I'll search to learn how to use it, now
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Oh god the picture is 155 MBs lol
@serene lotus This was my attempt at using cupscale
Oh wait
Idk why its not imbeding its a PNG
Maybe bc its so big
oof, that's a big file, man. Loading now
Yeah I upscaled it by 200% so its a juicy file size
which model have you used?
I just chose one from the website you sent with the ESRGAN models
The resolution is huge but I don't really see the upscaling. Try different model ๐
What resolution is it lol
it's 17k

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if you load a pic in cupscale so it's visible in the preview window, you can only upscale the visible part of it using the button Refresh Preview (cutout)
this way you can preview the model without having to process the entire image
This is the upscale difference between mine
Ohhh ok
I can see the difference but it's in no way 17k quality. Different models will process particular image differently. The fact they are meant to "upscale" something doesn't mean they will make everything sharper and clearer. that depends solely on the model and the image you process.
there are few models I use most often
let me show you
Yeah I will have to keep messing with it
GainRes V3
Also what are you settings for this window
this one is also great
why you set new size 130 procent?
leave everything at 100
Idk I was just experimenting
that's why your file is so big ๐
Yeah i've made that mistake before lol
install PowerToys for windows so you can have a resize option under the right mouse button, customisable
that's only one of the funcionalities available, it's a really useful suite
Do I still put this model in the ESRGAN folder?
GainRes goes to the default one
Whenever you will try to chain Real ESRGAN model with another one you will get a notification that you're trying to chain incompatible models, some models are miss-named so you experiment with that. You can chain up to 6 models per single render.
See? Not only much smaller, but much more detailed and crisp.
few trials and errors and you'll get it right
Here is another I just did. The right is upscaled
It looks way more crisp and smooth around the nose and eyes
Yeah they can look real nice
But you can also end up with an almost cartoony/ liquid/ soupy effect
Yeah, that's what is happening here. Granted, I'm pretty sure I installed it incorrectly and only used the default model.
You would have installed it correctly, it's the models that you need to fine tune
Matt listed his models up here somewhere, they probably do a much better job/ more precice AA and preserving texture quality
I did see those, but ahven't put them in yet
This is one of the ones he recommended and I tried it, its very good
Just click this button
and drag and drop the path file into the folder it opens
Sweet, I'll drop those in when they finish. I appreciate it!
How do you go about fine tuning model? Is that where thepython comes in? Sorry, I haven't had time to deep dive into this yet.
That model did do a much better job at preserving the details without washing out the texture.
What about a screenshot competition only for new players? It can be easily verified if someone only started playing by checking their RSI account. We could all donate to create a gift for a winner or something.
Hell, I can donate myself for some set, I just wish to see the channel going again.
Yeah, winner gets a paint or something
@steady mountain @autumn heron @slow oar Not letting you off the hook that easily
I support it
Yeah, man. A small thing is enough I believe.
@grizzled wren We need your help organising a screenshot competition for new players, with some prize pool ๐
I mean if we just have a small pool where people put some stuff into it then that can dictate what budget (so to speak) we have for it
Papa Hare will give you treats if you post good screenshots lol
Yeah, I loved being on the hof panel and being able to hopefully make some new player's day by chosing their shot
I'd probably annoy Sparky with how many screenshots I choose every time, but hey, it's a nice feeling
I was only once on the panel but it was fun
I'll relay this to the mod team. Not a bad idea.
awww, thanks you ๐
This automatically makes Sparky the best mod on the team 
Aye, Aye!
Sparky was always the best.
Awesome, you better think now about your contribution to the prize pool xD
100% this, I got into the HoF on like my third week in the game and I flaunted that shit to everyone I knew who played the game lol
It wasnโt even that good of a screenshot iirc
Sure I can contribute, even it costing 5x to me 
Found it
There are many reasons to classify a picture
That's composed quite well, even if you didn't realise it
The main focus is in the right hand side, your character lining up pretty well with the grid you find in cameras (rule of thirds) and the light point is also on a main focus point on that grid, where the bottom left lines intersect
I have a memory of an elephant. Thanks ๐
Fill me in guys whatz happenin
We want to revitalise the screenshot love
So Matt thought to host some themed things every so often and suggested we start with like a 'new player' screenshot comp for those who haven't really posted much/ afraid to post
We're slowly amassing a small prize pool so we can dish those out
Itโs such a fun ship, one of like 3 light fighters I actually enjoy
I don't "fighter" but yeah I absolutely love the design and animations. It's sick ๐
Makes me want the sty so badly
Santok yai
karthu carries stanton as it front light
Talon is right up there too
I'm a Scorp kinda guy
But i'm bias because I love X-Wings
Plus ludicrous firepower in a relatively small package
But anyway, wrong channel for that
Sexy af
I see it as a canguru pouch
Whoops
My anxiety tells me I need to center that.
I'm not a fan of alien ships
Lmao no post editing here 
your anxiety guided many corrections in my screenshots, jut saying ๐
But, Talon and Prowler jut got me
LoL. Thanks, man. You don't know how much that means to my anxiety.
Counter points
Can we vote for HOFs here too?! haha
Depth of field is a huge game changer
It is, man.
and I just forget it many times
victor didn't like blur too much, still his shots were mint, man.
Maxper, as well.
There is this Irmdall
Guy's really really good.
I donโt like excessive blur, but just just a touch makes or breaks a shot
Yeah whatever irmdall does is not fair whatsoever. I need his rig badly
Heโs too good
No one's too good, man.
We speak to different parts of the audience. Look how many people are in this channel.
I mean, not this, but screenshots.
every time you post something.
It goes to all of them.
Also WeeHamster
this guy..
roar.
Ye definitely, I love seeing other peopleโs interpretations of lighting and composition
Also gives me inspiration for my shots
If two negatives make a positive, two positives must make a negative
I donโt really got irl money to spare but I could add some aUEC to the pool or sumn
fucking love you, man. All hands aboard, all that matters.
The only reason I have a talon in my fleet is that it was a prize
you won it?
LoL. Congrats????
Itโs just so sexy
It was this shot for the theme โfirst contactโ
Haven't seen Max around here much recently, I preferred the earlier stuff they did without loads of post edits actually, still did great stuff though
Too much edit is too much edit. We can all see when that happens.
I know, it's not easy to point it out.
Yeah, I always feel bad because it feels i'm taking a dig at them
There are some editing that Iโm 100% behind tho, some dude was doing cel shaded shots of ships and the Corsair one was fuckin amazing
Nah. it's just a constructive criticism. I admire their work.
If I overdo with the blur I want someone to tell me xD
Yeah, we've all had our bad edit days
Went to use Cupscale to touch up recent shots only to remember there's a whole bunch of shit I have to do to get it working
Maybe later lol
Howdy
If you need a hand with cuspcale just let us know.
Hey, Lex.
Long time.
Yeah, busy little piggy nowadays
I know what I need to do, it's somewhere in one of these channels, just gotta get it working with my gpu because of the python thing
Been in a barfight today lol
Oh yeeah. I remember you
Congrats again!!!! o7
Ah, man. You got it!
Planning on getting some pics this weekend
Weow Weow Weow!!!
These guys are real aliens, not the mexican shown today
Those aliens that were clearly made by a 6 year old Mexican kids in school?
That sounds eventful
Oh shit that's nice
I think it's art though, not a shader
It's far too clean to be a shader
Wish there was a shader like that though
They highlighted a cel shaded nova tank with vaporwave coloring a week or two ago in the weekly update
This guy
I want a cel shading shader so badly itโs my favorite aesthetic
There are some shaders for it but they're naff
I'll have a look around and see if I can get a good shot in with the cell shader
pretty sure this was made externally and not with any shaders
i should probably play with my shaders i havent touched them since i got them
i dont even remember where my reshade folder is
Yeah I think it was blender
Should be in your sc live/ ptu folder, bin32, shaders
i have made a borderlands shader
trying to balance it out so its cool but you can still read
alright i think i nailed it
with the UI being mostly readable
It's a weird look but could work
Borderlands has the advantage of being designed to look that way, of course
Are those the models you use? Cupscale seems to be working again for me, for whatever reason. Not complaining about Python anymore
I may have spoken too soon
Fixed it, working as it should be now
Thank god
That was a pain in the arse
Not sure how much of a difference it really made, but now with AA!
Yeah I can see some spots that got fixed
Looks amazing
I wish they would update Crusaders texture from far to make it looks more like it does up close
I like the classic look
Because from far away now it kinda reminds me of a Starfield planet texture
But yeah, changes are good
Yeah I mean itโs not terrible but imo it could be better
Be nice if they could smooth out the edges of planets and moons a bit
I wish there where some moons with like no atmosphere
Like no little haze above the surface
Like the real moon doesnโt have any haze like earth does bc of its lack of atmo
Like this
Just a clean edge
Yeah
Sometimes the atmosphere haze just really abruptly cuts off, I don't know if that happens in space too but it's irritating it isn't a smoother transition
Wlala
Yeah, cupscale installation might be a bit tricky for those with RTX 3080 and above. You then need to install some additional libraries missing from the system. There is a manual for that, as well.
I seemed to have fixed it last night
Spent far too long fixing it though lol so who knows
We have more meridian paints
I am so happy
I love using the reflections to get some really nice colours on the ships
One thing I forgot to ask when this was all happening, what theme are you thinking of for the newer players/ new screenshotters to compete with?
Just saying.
Ah, yeah.
I can get into the escape tube most of the time, can get quite few people down there in one ship
We can use piracy as a theme, not the same location
We have two locations, one is outside the tube and the other seems to be the garages?
This whole pirating might be a good idea, after all.
Could work, depends when/ if we get the ok from the mod team
shaders cool
@rose silo
Ayo anyone here know about reshade error codes
I'm not getting screenshots saved anymore
Here's my error log, I've tried looking into what format 10 is but I have no idea
Figured it out, ReShade doesnโt support hdr pics
@autumn heron I'm learning to move the convo from screenshots channel to here.
So, catch 22 about the paint?
Plus, you need to be careful how you capture images cause they might not display correctly in Windows.
Hence I forgot about HDR for now.
So am I
It's a shame the 100i's foundation paint isn't standalone.
I don't wanna keep the 100i in hangar
It's a nice ship but pretty replaceable with something much better.
I mean, I love the design of Origin ships, in general, so I'm biased.
Oh btw, be careful with HDR when taking snaps.
They might not display correctly depending on the way you capture your content, like with those funking jxr files.
I use Nvidia Experience and it saves files this way. A pain in the a**.
When exploration comes in, Origin is going to become much more useful
And the egg will have its rework
God, I hope, man,
I will go back to 600i when exploration is a thing.
I love the ship and I love the idea of traversing the universe alone.
I will go back to it when either exploration comes in or the rework comes in
med bed? Aye, Sir.
I keep forgetting the touring exists because the ex is so mainstream (and better)
I've just got the entire origin pack in my hangar, I have no shame in it
Bravo to you, pal. I love Origin ships.
I just love Origin, something special about them
I mean, the hull line of 600i is just mind-blowing.
how they wrapped it around the engines, etc
Yeah, their flowing design language is just nice
Hull C is beautiful, man. I mean, it's heavy af but I can imagine me playing with others, on my ship, earning some serious money.
First time in my career in SC I want to play with others.
f lol.
Yeah I really hope that newer updates bring in that need/ want to play with others and get into the game a bit more
Speaking of Origin
G12 just got added to the progress tracker
I mean, so far I wasn't even considering it when the co-op is was mostly shotting bad guys and robbing the others.
G12?
Oh f*ck, man!
yessss
I can't wait.
The zoomy ground egg
I feel like they should be faster than the cyclones because they're more aerodynamic
Yeah
All that fancy is gonna weigh a bit
The double glazed windows ๐
Gotta keep the heat in
and the nice view out
Wide, panoramic roof and windshield
plus, glass of Advocat.
Fancy headlights that brighten up when you corner lol
Just as long as it stays reliable, can't have the electonics failing like their real world counterparts (that I shall not name) do
lol, it's as reliable as the server which we both know the answer ๐
Lost my cargo to 30K with Hull C, reloged, spawned the ship inside the station, with its spindles unfolded.
I even managed to get to the bridge through a merger of the station and the ship, but couldn't fly it away.

