okay
#off-topic-not-sc
marble sphinx
hallow wave
of course im going to insults
marble sphinx
im gonna stop.
hallow wave
you're insulting me by putting words in my mouth
i never claimed rtx was completely pointless
upper apex
we're literally talking about metro tho
hallow wave
k and
upper apex
the game where you said rtx was pointless
hallow wave
im talking about rtx vs rasterization
you brought metro into this
since apparently it makes you moist or something
you're so in love with it
upper apex
uwu
it's always weird to be reminded that discord's minimum age is 13, and there are probably children younger than that on the platform
mystic juniper
@marble sphinx 400i leak
orchid urchin
<@!196359844280795147> 400i leak
sour wharf
why they fighting
tender orbit
why they fighting
Epic says that Apple runs their App Store unfairly and like a monopoly
tender orbit
why they fighting
The App Store is the only way for people to install apps and software on their iPhones and iPads, and Apple charges app-makers a commission of up to 30% on in-app transactions.
sour wharf
i see
sour wharf
@glossy pebble Soon ready
thorn locust
that's why i was buying odyssey expecting for an alpha product, i do not put my expectations on updates and i consider them as pure bonus, not something i expect for.
glossy pebble
<@!157931435620171776> Soon ready
Sure let me know, I'll be home in like 10-15
idle canopy
The App Store is the only way for people to install apps and software on their i...
It's their software and their phones tbh, they can pretty much do what they want in my eyes
brittle goblet
@idle canopy I think its not really correct to say that they can do whatever they want because its their platform. This person on reddit puts it all in a good way i think.
glossy pebble
I'm ready to go now
Starting now too
sour wharf
Which system are you in again
glossy pebble
Which system are you in again
IX , I could come to you
brittle goblet
that's why i was buying odyssey expecting for an alpha product, i do not put my ...
Still does not change the fact that this update should not be called as Version 1.0 because its clearly not finished
glossy pebble
Ah nice , what's your ign
glossy pebble
Sent ya request
sour wharf
On my way to the station
glossy pebble
Same , on a planet in that system rn
sour wharf
Tfw 1 million cr repair
glossy pebble
:o
glossy pebble
Playing it rn
sour wharf
It's very cool
leaden sparrow
Runs fine for me but I got rtx 2070 6vram and 32 gb ram
glossy pebble
Same no issues with performance
sour wharf
I see u
glossy pebble
3k repair costs lol
leaden sparrow
Got paid 250k for a ground mission
thorn locust
Still does not change the fact that this update should not be called as Version ...
that would be funny if they made it 0.5 or something
glossy pebble
Yeah ground missing paying well
glossy pebble
My messages don't appear
I see your messages
thorn locust
3k repair costs lol
that's nothing
sour wharf
Well I don't see them myself
glossy pebble
that's nothing
I know
glossy pebble
Well I don't see them myself
Weird
thorn locust
my conda has 300K
glossy pebble
Well I don't see them myself
Where did you find your Pioneer skin
Got a cutter corvette asp and python
leaden sparrow
I'll probably just stick to grinding ground missions
glossy pebble
Using asp atm
sour wharf
Where did you find your Pioneer skin
Terminal
sour wharf
Found a good mission
glossy pebble
Lead the way
sour wharf
We gotta multi crew
sour wharf
Nice
glossy pebble
O rite single person elevators
I'll see u at the location lol
glossy pebble
O never did this , nice
sour wharf
Hope the game doesn't freeze
glossy pebble
Fingers crossed
sour wharf
Common occurence in multi crew
glossy pebble
I can access my inventory in your ship
That makes it easier to store stuff
sour wharf
Awesome
Check your transactions tap real quick
Do you have the mission?
If not I'll tell you the details
glossy pebble
Ah nope
sour wharf
Exterminate the criminal faction members occupying the settlement
They are aware we're coming.
glossy pebble
Gotcha , don't have dominator yet
Guess maverick will do
Gota go around all stations and grab grade 3's
sour wharf
Me too
glossy pebble
There's a page on frontier forum with locations of everything they found so far
glossy pebble
Ready
glossy pebble
She got level 2 access
thorn locust
repaired an outpost, returned to my ship being attacked by automated multi cannons
classic elite
sour wharf
Alright restocked ammo and everything
glossy pebble
Noice
sour wharf
Lmaooo the npcs run from you
glossy pebble
I got a voice message saying
A member of your team is under attack
sour wharf
The workers
glossy pebble
Lol
glossy pebble
Ikr lol
This feels smooth tbh
They should just address optimization and bugs and it'll be golden
glossy pebble
Yeah , I think using a mav and dominator suit worked perfectly
sour wharf
Yes! And that shield thing is a nice tool.
Could be used if you're surrounded or getting stormed
tender orbit
It's their software and their phones tbh, they can pretty much do what they want...
Monopoly
glossy pebble
Yeah , funny we had 0 bugs in a multicrew mission.. except the chat
Yeah the shield bubble reminds me of halo
sour wharf
Yeah, nothing was laggy for you?
glossy pebble
That went well
glossy pebble
Yeah I'm trying to find the link
sour wharf
It's using 93% of mine
sour wharf
Got paid 300k cr for that mission
glossy pebble
noice
thorn locust
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/suit-and-gun-locations-where-to-get-your-f...
laughs in shinrarta dezhra
glossy pebble
idk what to grind for lately , since not interested in a fc
glossy pebble
laughs in shinrarta dezhra
Idk if shinrarta got grade 3's
sour wharf
Going to this first HIP1781 - Chretien Oudemans Port - G3 Maverick + G3 Karma AR-50 + eBreach
glossy pebble
I'll just tag along lol since I'm lazy
sour wharf
Hope it's there
glossy pebble
Yeah hopefully it's not stock based
glossy pebble
Leggo
sour wharf
Gonna be a long ride
glossy pebble
Oh boi
It's nice to be in passenger seat lol
sour wharf
Looks like we have a bounty on us
mystic juniper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5FgGINdWU this is kinda cool
glossy pebble
F
sour wharf
There we have the freeze
gleaming spoke
i love odyssey
glossy pebble
Orange sidewinder 
gleaming spoke
sike i lied the dlc is bad
glossy pebble
I'll bring my ship
sour wharf
Yep
glossy pebble
Probably best for multiple jumps
glossy pebble
Rip so it's stock based
sour wharf
glossy pebble
That was a great experience tbh
sour wharf
gotta go pick up pizza because my brother is lazy.
i'll be online again in 2 hours maybe
glossy pebble
Sure I'll probably be in SC to watch the event before servers burn down
thorn locust
Guess we'll just have to check every station we come across
Eddb having some issues keeping up with the new content
Half baked content
sour wharf
Well good timing tbh. Gonna eat and come back to see the patch notes
thorn locust
lofty fossil
hmm
Next is the implementation of planetary "life" into the game. I put this in quotes because it just barely passes as adding something resembling life. All life added to planets are just flora and that is just as basic as everything else in the game. All of it spawns in very defined and preset places. Nothing about it looks like how natural life should behave. It almost looks like borders have been put up around the different area where it spawns on planets and doesn't go any further, a lot like how the barnacle forest look now. You find a patch of life on a planets and once you hit the edge, these is nothing else, not even just a few plants that are separate from the main cluster.
idle canopy
I wonder what the people in the refundian subreddit are going to compare SC to now that oddessy flopped
lofty fossil
first positive review I see
If normal Elite Dangerous Horizons is a full course meal, Odyssey is a wet slab of TV dinner that didn't heat up all the way that is going into the microwave for a little more time.
Even without the expansion you have to be chugging copium to recommend someone else to buy this right now.
chugging copium
I love it
sour wharf
> Even without the expansion you have to be chugging copium to recommend someone...
this is way beyond true though
brittle goblet
So real life Micro-transactions are now a thing....
sour wharf
they never learn
lofty fossil
but unlike the digital nature of video game microtransactions, you can at least take these add-ons home and display them. To further entice Marvel fans to spend more cash, the WEB Tech add-on is available in Spider-Man, Ghost Spider, Iron Man, and Rescue variants.
so naturally some people will buy all 4 variants
brittle goblet
naturally : )
lofty fossil
but I'm pretty sure they already did something like this with the harry potter wands
where you could pay more to do more spells or w/e
sour wharf
brittle goblet
oh really ? this is just so messed up.
But when i think right now, Micro Transactions in real life is nothing really new. Lets take airlines, you can always pay extra for extra comfort and features... Or add-ons like some would call.
sour wharf
true
blazing vector
@fierce wadi
fluid plank
why did I even get muted in #star-citizen and #843198515512344616
round parcel
cool i found the offtopeck
surreal rivet
thorn locust
why did I even get muted in <#92000849236066304> and <#843198515512344616>
Nobody loves you get over it already
It is what it is
You cannot change it
mystic juniper
@fluid plank
thorn locust
Dumbass
mystic juniper
I mean, no need to call him a dumbass
mystic juniper
I didn't do it, so I can't judge if it was a proper reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fluid plank
I didn't do it, so I can't judge if it was a proper reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is it permanent
mystic juniper
1 day
fluid plank
kk
mystic juniper
will automatically be removed too
fluid plank
I mean I didn't mean to shitpost or anything that's it
so like im just sorry if i triggered someone lol
mystic juniper
just take it easy next time, with the memeing
fierce wadi
hahahahaha wild
sour wharf
@glossy pebble
glossy pebble
<@157931435620171776>
Sup
sour wharf
Got a G3 dominator suit and G3 laser rifle, both unengineered though.
Oh and the zenith laser pistol
G3
sour wharf
10 minutes
fierce wadi
do you just buy gun parts to upgrade a gun?
glossy pebble
Damn nice
sour wharf
It was luck
idle canopy
hahahahaha wild
"I'll stop talking about blocking people" 
sleek falcon
glossy pebble
It was luck
a very good luck , apparently those grade 3 items vanish after 1 purchase and reappear somewhere else
sour wharf
Yep
rain adder
I just had a thought. What if two SC stream snipers were watching each-other's streams? Who would win, I wonder?
idle canopy
I just had a thought. What if two SC stream snipers were watching each-other's s...
What a great philosophical question
rain adder
What a great philosophical question
Is it greater than Tai Kwan Leap?
sour wharf
I raided an outpost
random condor
I don't think there are many stream sniper streamers
idle canopy
I don't think there are many stream sniper streamers
Afaik it's against rules of twitch
random condor
So we'd need to find rule breaking but not yet banned stream sniper streamers, who happen to both be playing sc in the same server, and happen to both be watching the other's stream without noticing the recursion and ending their own stream
And then do this as many times as we can for a valid sample size
This is a good question
brittle goblet
I just had a thought. What if two SC stream snipers were watching each-other's s...
Doesn't that make a dog fight? XD
harsh estuary
mossy dune
karmic kelp
yo this raccoon keeps getting in my trash, what should i do?
harsh estuary
https://killedbygoogle.com/
google graveyard rip
dense cliff
ivory pagoda
low prawn
Game of he year?
lament oyster
Nah it's a dlc and making big updates on online games can be risky
lament oyster
They already made 2 patches and it's better now
marble sphinx
They already made 2 patches and it's better now
Reading the top reviews, it seems like there two major factors for those negative reviews: Bugs and lack of big content
i reaaaaaaaaaally wonder what made them push it out in that state, because they woulde have such an upper hand compared to sc if the expansion ran smoothly
lament oyster
I haven't got any of the bugs I've seen people talking about and I think if making changes so people can walk on planets and do missions there is lack of big content it's crazy
loud stone
A, its not bad; you'd know that if you weren't a gatekeeper and B, most of the reviews are around performance
marble sphinx
Dude whats your problem
for real now.
Get of my dick, man.
I cant even discuss things about E:D without you shittin on me
mystic juniper
glossy pebble
Most complaints I see are just for bugs and about performance
then again i can only speak from personal experience
marble sphinx
yeah true, it's 90% bugs and performance and 10% where people hoped there would be more
I can only speak from the reviews
i havent played it.
glossy pebble
i'd go back to it in a month or so
its playable but man fps is kinda eh in settlements
marble sphinx
are there like big ground stations, or only those small outposts?
dusky depot
They already had a month - and didn't use that at all to address issues that were pointed out.
glossy pebble
all kinds grag
also the vram demand is kinda high
people with low vram gpu are having texture issues
marble sphinx
well I guess one month is not nearly enough to fix bugs @dusky depot
dusky depot
And still decided to release it in that state.
marble sphinx
also the vram demand is kinda high
dusky depot
SC loves to eat RAM lately
glossy pebble
yeah
dusky depot
To the point where I constantly run out even with 32 GB
glossy pebble
same 32gb and 50 gb page file for sc
marble sphinx
SC eats ram like crazy
marble sphinx
And still decided to release it in that state.
this is what I find very odd.
marble sphinx
because it's invictus and people who interested in space games will look into both
dusky depot
It's all a marketing scheme!
glossy pebble
problem is free fly experience kinda doesnt translate well with expo + javelin and bengal eating up servers
dusky depot
FDev and CIG are in on it!
marble sphinx
I was hoping for Odyssey to become very dang good, because that would give CIG an ass-slap
glossy pebble
horizons was buggy af when it launched too , i remember it 6 years ago
took them a month or two to get it working
glossy pebble
so i set expectations accordingly
warm dome
Not gonna lie, CIG needs motivation(as in Opponent to get them on the speed)
dusky depot
They are different games, and E:D will never reach the fidelity of SC, that is my statement.
But yes.
CIG needs a slap on the ass or wrist.
glossy pebble
they got like 100 developers i think
doubt they're even trying to be sc
or have same budget
marble sphinx
i dont think they are that different, because E:D is trying to do spacelegs and having a richer and immersive experience. Of course, SC looks billion times better, but i guess it's fine if E:D spacelegs would run very well
The problem is, if there isnt really any competition in that genre, then CIG can milk us until the end of time.
Why trying to make valuable features faster, if no one pushes u?
hah
glossy pebble
the way they made polaris not limited and made it 1 per acc
probably made them thousands of $ in just 1 day
vapid mesa
So they are just sitting on there arses not improving? Lol. They need competition.
warm dome
I mean, In my OPINION locking Space Legs behind a DLC was the first error for Odyssey
glossy pebble
they probably wouldnt have a dlc if they sold ships for $ and made money that way
game servers dont run on gas
or salaries for developers
marble sphinx
So they are just sitting on there arses not improving? Lol. They need competitio...
well no, they are ofcourse improving and working on the game. But it would be a wakeup call for them to get their shit together if some big player made a space ship FPS game that is very good
glossy pebble
via just cosmetic items you can only get soo much $
dusky depot
One thing that I really wonder about SC: How much is really held back by S42, the servers, and server meshing?
mystic juniper
we'll never know for sure
glossy pebble
doubt anyone really knows except cig
marble sphinx
the famous flood gates huh
warm dome
One thing that I really wonder about SC: How much is **really** held back by S42...
My guess is about 80%
But again
Its a guess
marble sphinx
according to CR words once we get that tech running, flood gates will open
but i dont believe him
vapid mesa
Sounds like an excuse.
glossy pebble
yeah his past quotes from last 8 years havent been exactly reliable
dusky depot
Considering how many features are still being developed for S42, despite claims of beta testing, I'm sceptical but hopeful.
marble sphinx
I believe we get a big bump in gameplay and areas to explore, but it will be still far away from the big floodgates
glossy pebble
using words like flood gates only builds up hype and builds unrealistic expectations for some people
and inturn disappointment in the end
glossy pebble
sadly yeah
mystic juniper
you mean like announcing a release date for a game and missing it with 4 years and counting?
warm dome
you mean like announcing a release date for a game and missing it with 4 years a...
Isnt it 5 years now?
mystic juniper
well, I give them the benefit of the doubt and say they planned a december 2016 release
marble sphinx
an optimist would say: They first thought they could deliver sq42 as an okay game with an okay scale, but then when they worked on all the new tech, they realized how much more they can do, so the dates got pushed in favour of a richer experience.
a realist would say: eh. just bad management
a pessimist would say: REEEEEEEEE scam
mystic juniper
I'd say, all of the above
glossy pebble
kinda makes you wonder tho if inventories or part of icache got delayed by a quarter , how likely it is we'll see T1 meshing by next year or pyro
or that'll get pushed to 2023
low prawn
kinda makes you wonder tho if inventories or part of icache got delayed by a qua...
2024 is pyro
marble sphinx
naah
glossy pebble
with that pace , 2050 for their all planned systems
marble sphinx
well, development is not linear
dusky depot
I just hope the first part of S42 actually gets released.
glossy pebble
i'm not sure how useful " exploration " ships will be if they do a soft launch with 10-15 systems
unless they add some different gameplay
marble sphinx
AFAIK they have a working version of icache internally
glossy pebble
probably yea
marble sphinx
same with basic SM
marble sphinx
dusky depot
Damn scam putting 500 people to work
glossy pebble
meanwhile cr building a real spaceship with money we buy jepgs with
mystic juniper
marble sphinx
im pretty sure SC will launch with 3 systems and a HUUUUUUUUUUUUGEEEEEE roadmap
dusky depot
SC x SpaceX collab when
marble sphinx
glossy pebble
3 systems
limber pulsar
meanwhile cr building a real spaceship with money we buy jepgs with
SpaceX v2?
glossy pebble
man my carrack would cry
marble sphinx
you can say what you want, but 1 system is already very huge and so much shit to do
mystic juniper
thinking 400mil is enough to make an IRL spaceship
glossy pebble
yeah but what good is an explo ship
with antennas this that
enhanced jump charting etc
brittle goblet
according to CR words once we get that tech running, flood gates will open
Well even if we get first implementation of server meshing later this year, early next year, we still dont know how long it will take to get fully developed server meshing. So its gonna be a while before we see flood gates open anyways...
limber pulsar
3 million players for a game that’s been out for 8 years in alpha 
glossy pebble
3 million players for a game that’s been out for 8 years in alpha <a:KEKW:795945...
pretty sure 5-10 % of them are just burner accounts for referrals
or alts
limber pulsar
Yep
marble sphinx
Well even if we get first implementation of server meshing later this year, earl...
there is no such thinng as fully developed SM, there will be iteratons after iterations. You mean the dynamic SM which is like the gold standard they want to have
brittle goblet
Yea i mean that.. Gold standard
marble sphinx
I actually dont have the extreme thurst of wanting to have more players in a server.
I just want to have a stable and mostly bugfree experience that is rich in gameplay
glossy pebble
i have no expectations we'll see thousands of players in a single shard/server like they claimed
or in a single battle with hundreds of ships flowing around
junior coyote
It'll happen eventually
junior coyote
Other games have done it, no reason CIG can't
glossy pebble
other games didnt have this much detail to render
junior coyote
rendering detail is client side
glossy pebble
problem is performance
junior coyote
not server side
brittle goblet
Well i believe that when they release server meshing they will increase player number per server beyond 60... So it will happen before optimization for testing
marble sphinx
thats just a problem to overcome, not a complete blocker
marble sphinx
glossy pebble
exactly lol
brittle goblet
obviously expect delays and rough start. its just how things roll
dusky depot
I mean, we can already have battles of 50+ ships, more than some other games can claim.
glossy pebble
50 + ships
marble sphinx
those battles are in 1 fps
brittle goblet
glossy pebble
during XT they had to lower cap to 40 to get 20-30 fps
marble sphinx
sooooooo i would call them round based 
glossy pebble
and with like 20ish ships in a battle
dusky depot
Regardless, that's still more than other games can claim.
brittle goblet
how does that compares with elite? never experienced big battles there
glossy pebble
elite's server are peer to peer
dusky depot
And this is on a server that's simulating an entire solar system without instances
brittle goblet
elite's server are peer to peer
i know
glossy pebble
so unless someone organizes it
u barely see it , however during distant worlds u can see a bunch of ships around 30-40 in a single instance
dusky depot
SC's tech is extremely impressive, but severely strained and mismanaged
glossy pebble
and frame rate is smooth
marble sphinx
SC's tech is extremely impressive, but severely strained and mismanaged
thats a good quote
junior coyote
ED is just taking a different, more sensible, approach to it's development
glossy pebble
brittle goblet
wonder how this will look with Odyssey. They had a rough start too
brittle goblet
yea
cunning glade
I’ll probably uninstall elite by the end of the year
It has a grind on par with free to play games
Theres only so much relogging im ever willing to do
glossy pebble
how long did it take you to grind a fully engineered ship
marble sphinx
why is the whole fucking gaming industry like that right now?
Releasing a product that is basically only in beta.
brittle goblet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSrDGuI5Jc8
oh wow this is pretty epic
glossy pebble
oh wow this is pretty epic
yeah distant worlds expeditions are usually fun
cunning glade
Im gonna go full boomer and say the dipshit new generation that gladly ate the shit up
warm dome
for me E:D was always Quantity over Quality and SC was Quality over Quantity
marble sphinx
Im gonna go full boomer and say the dipshit new generation that gladly ate the s...
heckn boomer
glossy pebble
yeah you wouldnt be this optimistic if u backed 8 ish years ago
brittle goblet
why is the whole fucking gaming industry like that right now?
Releasing a produ...
Because they know that we will continue buying and pre ordering. Game devs know it, shareholders know it. We vote with our wallets. Just like loot boxes should not have been a thing yet we fully embraced them. -_-
marble sphinx
you need both in a game
i dont think so.
Look at RE village.
junior coyote
I backed in October 2012
glossy pebble
i dont think so.
Look at RE village.
all i can see is the vampire lady
marble sphinx
jay is big boomer wew
junior coyote
Gaming isn't ruined
cunning glade
💳
marble sphinx
all i can see is the vampire lady
thats cause you havent watched a playthough, the big tiddy vampire lady is only 20% of the whole game
brittle goblet
Fortnite moms ruined gaming
Kind and not really, in countries like China micro transactions was huge deal even before it came to the west.
cunning glade
Gaming is in another slump like right before the 2000s
marble sphinx
Because they know that we will continue buying and pre ordering. Game devs know ...
moneyzzzzzzzzz
glossy pebble
thats cause you havent watched a playthough, the big tiddy vampire lady is only ...
yeah i dont usually see gameplays , its on my to play list.. sometime in future
warm dome
thats why i didnt backed 8 years ago
glossy pebble
yeah esp with everyone at home
glossy pebble
thats why i didnt backed 8 years ago
arent you still in school now
glossy pebble
gotcha
warm dome
for going to Uni
junior coyote
There are plenty of quality games coming out
marble sphinx
yeah i dont usually see gameplays , its on my to play list.. sometime in future
it's actually an awesome game and not that horror heavy anymore
which is nice
cunning glade
Profits have never been higher because quality is pretty low
dusky depot
The biggest problems for video games are publishers and investors, not the developers themselves, IMO
They are just too greedy.
glossy pebble
it's actually an awesome game and not that horror heavy anymore
oh yea the inclusion of rtx and dlss and vrs makes it even better tech wise
brittle goblet
As much as i wish to end loot boxes and free to play gaming is here to stay sadly. Look at Bethesda, they have even announced that they want more of that free to play cake
cunning glade
Look how a game like valheim crushed the scene
low prawn
the famous **flood gates** huh
lol
junior coyote
Valheim hit the same niche that Minecraft did, that's why it blew up
cunning glade
Quality is clearly still there but its not being produced by big companies
marble sphinx
oh yea the inclusion of rtx and dlss and vrs makes it even better tech wise
oh man, dont get me started. The most times I got a boner was not because of .... lady D, it was because how fucking sick the enviroment looks
warm dome
Yea, I was a middle schooler when i heard SC was in kickstarter. I didnt backed because back at that time i was sure i couldnt wait for multiple years. but now i can @glossy pebble
glossy pebble
oh wow this is pretty epic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de78Odrw6KE
this was capital ship combat from 6-7 years ago
junior coyote
indie game != bad game
marble sphinx
Valheim.
low prawn
you mean like announcing a release date for a game and missing it with 4 years a...
/duke nukem forever
cunning glade
Now that indie devs can patch their games lol
Back when all you had was your physical release indie games were such a risk
brittle goblet
indie game != bad game
Indie studios won't try to drain your wallet .For the most part so thats already big plus
glossy pebble
oh man, dont get me started. The most times I got a boner was not because of ......
imagine rtx in sc.. if we ever get
junior coyote
Valheim, Medieval Dynasty, Breathedge, Before We Leave, Cartel Tycoon, Frozenheim, Foundation, Ragnarock
warm dome
imagine rtx in sc.. if we ever get
Playing at single digit FPS
junior coyote
All great small dev games that i've been enjoying
glossy pebble
Playing at single digit FPS
you usually need dlss to complement the performance loss
glossy pebble
in control 1080p and 1440p dlss upscaling to 2160p was soo well done holy shit
marble sphinx
imagine rtx in sc.. if we ever get
that will happen. Raytracing will be a must have thing in the near future. Just like paralax occlusion is.
cunning glade
When its performance friendly enough for devs to basically “set and forget it”
glossy pebble
that will happen. Raytracing will be a must have thing in the near future. Just ...
yeah there are alot of new tech out these days .. mesh shaders , vrs rtx dlss and a huge list
apparently pc might get directstorage too.. wonder how many of these sc will implement
junior coyote
@marble sphinx Have you seen any of Metro Exodus Definitive?
The raytracing is insane
low prawn
that will happen. Raytracing will be a must have thing in the near future. Just ...
im pretyy sure gen12 has rt in mind
marble sphinx
<@!196359844280795147> Have you seen any of Metro Exodus Definitive?
OH DUDE, I got a fugn orgasm watching the video from digital foundry
low prawn
?
junior coyote
It's so good
surreal rivet
brittle goblet
marble sphinx
yeah there are alot of new tech out these days .. mesh shaders , vrs rtx dlss an...
Not might, it will get direct storage.
junior coyote
just see how the reflections work with rtx
Metro Exodus is a great example of how RTX improves a lot more than just reflections
warm dome
just see how the reflections work with rtx
God i love Control
junior coyote
Metro Exodus's RTX lighting is second to none
low prawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQFGBmMOr4
pff off topic
glossy pebble
Metro Exodus is a great example of how RTX improves a lot more than just reflect...
yeah control has other rtx settings too it came out 2 years ago and did very well and yeah metro looks brilliant
low prawn
For performance reasons star citizen uses raymarching and not raytracing
is that a joke?
marble sphinx
The raytracing is insane
The crazy thing about is that it saves sooooo much time for the lighting artists
glossy pebble
Not might, it will get direct storage.
hope soo
saves time and makes everything look realistic
cunning glade
is that a joke?
What would be the joke...
low prawn
ramarching lol
cunning glade
They are completely different methods
low prawn
o?
glossy pebble
but full ray tracing conversion means everyone must have rtx capable hardware
warm dome
Can i casually say that I fucking love Control. It has a good story with good DLC`s and its Fun
cunning glade
Raymarching is significantly cheaper to run
glossy pebble
that's where the issue is
marble sphinx
im pretyy sure gen12 has rt in mind
No, gen12 has no rtx yet. I remember them saying that they think of rtx right now, but it wont come in the near future (3-5 years)
warm dome
Can i casually say that I fucking love Control. It has a good story with good DL...
And also Courtney Hope did an excellent job on voicing Jesse
cunning glade
You can use raymarching on a 1060
You absolutely cannot raytrace on a 1060 *in gaming
glossy pebble
Can i casually say that I fucking love Control. It has a good story with good DL...
same , love control . story is wonderful
fae is awesome and ray tracing looks fantastic
yeah probably if they add rtx it'll be during beta or something
warm dome
same , love control . story is wonderful
fae is awesome and ray tracing looks fa...
Did you played its latest AWE dlc?
glossy pebble
whenever that might be
marble sphinx
My first eye opening moment with RTX was actually cyberpunk .
glossy pebble
Did you played its latest AWE dlc?
ye at last section now , i think in next room i'll kill heartman
warm dome
ye at last section now , i think in next room i'll kill heartman
I loved the Alan Wake type of its DLC
I am a huge fan of Alan wake man
well
not a huge fan
but still
a big fan
marble sphinx
oh
glossy pebble
sadly didnt notice much difference in cyerpunk , probably cuz my 2080 was getting a stroke when i use rtx with 4k on cyberpunk
was able to do it on control no problem
marble sphinx
hahahaa
cunning glade
marble sphinx
wew.
cunning glade
glossy pebble
I loved the Alan Wake type of its DLC
remedy is a fantastic studio , alan wake , max payne , quantum break and then control
hopefully we get a sequel to alan wake soon or a cross over
cunning glade
Lucky you survived one
marble sphinx
hah
sleek falcon
orchid urchin
marble sphinx
stark cloud
sour wharf
sour python
wait, Odyssey has lots of bugs? is this a bid to try to poach Star Citizen players?
strong harness
@split oyster
sour python
wot is that
sour python
oh just trying to figure out what franchise you guys were talking about
strong harness
league of legends
split oyster
hmmmm
nah not good enuf
look at these
now these are high quality
@strong harness
strong harness
Oh, i didn't know you wanted high quality @split oyster . My bad, here's a high quality Jinx. 🙂
strong harness
XD
orchid urchin
split oyster
Queen
hard marsh
idle canopy
wait, Odyssey has lots of bugs? is this a bid to try to poach Star Citizen playe...
Who would have thought oddessy was the real scam all along
unreal dune
austere lynx
Who would have thought <:cheriesmug:585950311277920331> oddessy was the real sca...
Honestly I can't tell which of the 2 is buggier at this point
The difference is one is a paid $40 fully released expansion for a released game
The other is a tech demo that has my wallet by the balls
patent lintel
Everyone watching Eurovision Songcontest? 😃
idle canopy
The difference is one is a paid $40 fully released expansion for a released game...
It's quite the decision isn't it
weary kelp
Everyone watching Eurovision Songcontest? 😃
Yes
strong harness
hisoka creepy as hell man
leaden sparrow
odyssey good
austere lynx
As someone who played extensively before it released, no, it's quite a disaster
Even a bunch of the normal non-odyseey missions don't function correctly anymore
loud stone
They have no version control at all
idle canopy
Quality content
lofty fossil
I'm seeing various graphical issues people have where it's like PS1/N64 textures all over
like damn
do they just have to turn down settings so much because it runs that bad? 
could be mipmap bug rly
glossy pebble
legit ps1 graphics
idle canopy
Oddessy sounds horrible from what I've heard, maybe I'll buy it in 6 months if it's fixed
glossy pebble
Yea frontier's dlcs are always broken at launch
Odyssey is more broken than others before
glossy pebble
I'm able to run fine but I doubt anyone with low end specs can run
marble sphinx
Oddessy sounds horrible from what I've heard, maybe I'll buy it in 6 months if i...
be careful, otherwise you gonna get called a gatekeeper 
glossy pebble
Or even some mid range
idle canopy
be careful, otherwise you gonna get called a gatekeeper <:Kappa:7260721835367465...
terribly sorry
marble sphinx
austere lynx
Expansion had 2 bugfix patches already So I decided yesterday to try it out, played for about 2 hours.
In those 2 hours after two bugfix patches I encountered:
UI for designing your character does not function/will not update your characters armor visuals
Setting bindings to cycle ship stats at the outfitting screen does not function
Cycling power pips will occasionally not function and every input you enter will just reset them to default
Mission targets for assassination missions will not spawn, there was NPC's that spawned with names that were close but not the correct target, caused a failure and reputation demotion
Had a mission to outsource 80 silver for 2.6 million, upon collecting the 80th silver the game gave me a "purple.python" error and threw me to the main menu, reloading the game caused the mission to simply disappear
Entering Supercruise sometimes causes a CTD
Looking at fire drops your frames by at least 30 or so
Flying around moons in my ships sometimes can't even break 60 fps anymore. in my ship, in Horizons I used to get 160-180ish
The galaxy map has options for filtering commodities to find a particular item, these menus do not function as as soon as you select what category of item you want the menu closes itself, preventing you from specifying an item within that category, re-opening the menu resets it to it's default state
glossy pebble
God the galaxy map sucks now
Wish we could revert to old one
idle canopy
Expansion had 2 bugfix patches already So I decided yesterday to try it out, pla...
Now I think about it, buying in 6 months might be too early
austere lynx
Equipping shit from storage is a slog now
and I can't see any ship stat but FSD range
Cause they fucking broke the bindings
idle canopy
Elite was great the last time I played, a nice chilled space game but now it sounds like it's ruined a tad
austere lynx
You can still launch it as Horizons, or the base game
But fuck me sideways Odyssey should not have released
idle canopy
By the time they do console launch
Seems like they are using pc as a beta before they push to console tbh
glossy pebble
Yeah I mean launching it 2 weeks after alpha
It's a beta , whatever they call it
idle canopy
Iirc elite has a mostly console playerbase so they want to make sure it's good so they get as many sales as possible
idle canopy
Yeah I mean launching it 2 weeks after alpha
It's a beta , whatever they call it
That was the quickest, most rushed alpha I've ever seen
austere lynx
I mean I knew it'd be a good one when buying the alpha bricked your install
But damn
glossy pebble
Consoles had a release few years after pc
No idea about playerbase numbers
glossy pebble
That was the quickest, most rushed alpha I've ever seen
Ye definitely
idle canopy
Consoles had a release few years after pc
No idea about playerbase numbers
I'm basing that off the fact that most of the stuff on the elite sub seems console
glossy pebble
Ah right makes sense
austere lynx
To clarify I think Odyssey is a massive step in the right direction, it's just incredibly botched atm
The idea, and content that is there is good
It just should've been delayed
idle canopy
Exactly, I love the idea of it, the execution, less so
austere lynx
This isn't SC where bugs that fuck my reputation and bank balance don't matter
This is a released game, that reputation hit and lost credits chasing silver and shit like that is not a good time
glossy pebble
I'm telling everyone to try it after a few months
Whoever was asking how it is
Their optimization of horizons was damn good
glossy pebble
It's Always same shit lately, someone over top wants to release early and devs get caught in middle
austere lynx
Elites main problem during Horizons was the grind
glossy pebble
Oh yeah
austere lynx
They've buffed payouts considerably since then I've noticed
I didn't think they had it in em
glossy pebble
I like how you randomly find grade 3 engineered suits and guns in odyssey for credits
I missed the time when mining was super profitable
People made billions in a day
loud stone
I didn't think they had it in them to actually reduce the material cost for suit/weapon upgrades
But saying that, they reverted AX combat bonds back to their old values
loud stone
We're thinking it was unintentional
Given how they also messed with Horizons specific things
loud stone
Honest to god if you took a Hydra down and lived to tell the tale you'd better be getting 64million
austere lynx
Basilisk is unironically harder than the Medusa
loud stone
The Hydra still gives me PTSD
austere lynx
I stopped playing before the Hydra came out. Never fought it
loud stone
I attempted to do a AXCZ after a year of not playing and I have never had my ass whooped so hard by the Hydra
austere lynx
But the Basilisk has some absurd speed increase over every other one, well, besides Hydra since idk about that one
But even G5 dirty's barely outrun a basi
Thing is stupidly fucking fast
glossy pebble
Lmao didn't go beyond Cyclops as I didn't had a dedicated ax ship
austere lynx
I killed my first Cyclops in a chieftain
Then went to the FDL, got so good at killing them I could do it and with 99-100% hull
Basilisk is more or less the same but you spend a lot longer trying to disengage
glossy pebble
I made a build for a AX krait but never got around to buying it
Someday someday
glossy pebble
Running around stations and engineering is a pain
austere lynx
Remote engineering made it easier
Back in my day you had to go to the engineer directly
glossy pebble
Yeah I have some bookmarks
Gota go there for experimental..
Yeah and rng engineering when it first launched
austere lynx
Good ol' shitty ass 13LY jump range on a stock FDL or w/e it was
Jumping however far to the engineer to upgrade it
austere lynx
RNG actually was good to me, usually it rolled high enough in a few go's I didn't bother trying more
Since I had max rep with most of the engi's
glossy pebble
Nice , I just did fsd and went explo
By the time I came back rng was removed
Right python and asp
crude minnow
Odyssey is genuinely buggier than SC
I can't fucking believe it
FDev has outdone themselves in incompetency
crude minnow
I hopped into the ED server to trash it and everybody else in the community as well too apparently
I had zero faith in FDev when I quit two years ago
I was fucking right
Trash ass company
Odyssey is a fucking cash grab
charred current
Odyssey is a fucking cash grab
laughs in ILW
crude minnow
*laughs in ILW*
At least this cash grab will yield a good product in the future
ED was and still is a lost cause
charred current
I sure hope so, cig doing a pretty good job at breaking our spirits though 
I'll give ED:O another year and see how they clean things up
crude minnow
Okay but unlike FDev there are people who actually care about quality in CIG
charred current
not touching that stuff until then though
crude minnow
FDev jerks off to their game on their livestreams, CIG gives regular insight into development when they livestream
At least you can see when someone is gushing about x aspect of the development that there are people who are passionate
And they actually play the game
FDev regularly doesn't even know the basic mechanics of their own game
In CIG, I at least see care. In FDev, I see a middle finger from the devs to the community
charred current
oh I know there's a lot of passion and attention to detail behind SC, but their project management is just horrific and its almost unfathomable to me how they keep walking into their own traps of overpromising after a near decade and staff count the size of a small society 
crude minnow
Hence why I have faith in an incomplete product with heart versus a soulless complete product
Hey, as long as people continue to funnel money into the game, there's no reason they'd just up and close shop
charred current
if I didn't like what they were doing so much I'd probably give in to the screfunds choir eventually lol
crude minnow
The game is genuinely fun already when it works
Just don't play an incomplete game to death
I stormed a bunker with a tonk, dismounted, killed a load of enemies inside, retrieved a box, my friend in my M2 landed in the cleared LZ and picked me up before we went off world to deliver the goods
That was fun
charred current
yeah it is, just dying for something new to do by now, and those I used to play with never wants to join anymore because they're not as inclined to do the same stuff we've done for over a year any longer 
charred current
you can do tank cave missions?
crude minnow
Maybe the drive-in cave entrances
harsh estuary
Anyone else having trouble posting messages in this discord? Keeps timing out
sour wharf
Had fun raiding an outpost today. first try was meant to be a stealth mission, but we died so. I would make the workers look my way, and he'd stun them. Somehow, despite our otherworldly planning and stealth skills though, we ended up in a room with 6 guards in the door hallway, and got blown up by several grenades. i had literally just went to him when as the grenades went off. couldn't stop laughing afterwards
screenshot i took right after it happened
sour wharf
Anyone else having trouble posting messages in this discord? Keeps timing out
yeah having trouble as well
harsh estuary
weirdly, only this discord
little fern
harsh estuary
vapid mesa
would love to play star citzen. but i need a ssd for it, lol.
harsh estuary
yes
purchase
late spade
Linus Tech Tips did a video about Star Citizen and compare it to Elite Dangerous... and Star Citizen is better?
https://youtu.be/bYs_zn2pTZo
vapid mesa
could be paid, most of those reviews are paid. i watch raptor livestreams.
hes more honest.
thats how i found out about star citzen. through his channel.
austere lynx
Didn't LTT loath SC before?
vapid mesa
too games on my to do list: star citzen and lord of the rings online. but need more space as well. so two things i need.
vapid mesa
you mean this youtuber?
harsh estuary
Didn't LTT loath SC before?
I swear I remember reading Linus is a player
fierce lion
Hey dudes, I need some input here. Am I the only one that waits for my wife to shower, then low-key sneaks in the bath room to take a massive shit to fuck with her? Just to clarify we have two bath rooms so it's not out of necessity.
austere lynx
I swear I remember reading Linus is a player
He played with Morph at one point and iirc was nothing but a nuisance and a troll during the entire session
But I never watched it personally, just through the grapevine I heard about that
charred current
Linus has a connie aquila pledger
a man of taste
from what I can tell he seems petty ambivalent about the project
sour python
Linus also isn't the one who made the above video
Riley was the one recently interested in SC and joined Morph for a mulitplayer session... that Linus trolled the whole time for luls
orchid urchin
Ye. That's Riley.
sour python
other than being a troll the whole time the only thing Linus said that gave away any opinion on the game was "hey is it true this ship I pledged $300 for in the Kickstarter is a complete pile of shit?" lol
orchid urchin
And Riley made a mistake by not asking a helper after he logged out from his bed!!!
sour python
the video he took months to make since that experience is the most balanced outsider view into Star Citizen I have ever seen
Star Citizen = the matrix
charred current
I was wondering what took so long, obviously they spent some time to do their homework
sour python
it was really just Riley. I don't think the other LTT guys have any cares for it
charred current
there's so many one-sided hottakes and clickbait content on the subject, that makes this effort that much greater imo
orchid urchin
Truly
charred current
say what you want about Linus and his company but he's done a good job of picking his associates, nuanced journalism like this is getting increasingly rare these days
leaden sparrow
After tracking down staff member on base using terminal I had to clone a workers access body but I triggered the alarm and the mark came out to fight me
Then I had to run 300km away from base to call in a shuttle that's now taking me to another settlement
NPC shuttles are great
Odyssey is so good getting 43 fps at settlements
Now I gotta steal some data
austere lynx
Lol
Bring back my 180fps or more from Horizons and we'll talk
"OdYeSseY iS OpTImiZeD tO rUn On YoUR CuRReNt SeTtInGs"
Should be careful you aren't doing those illegal missions wherever you decide to call home btw, or anywhere you care to visit
Having bounties/being wanted by factions inside systems you like can get annoying
Gotta do illegal missions out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere that you never visit for anything important
Cause if you stumble across a station owned by that faction it's gonna hurt lol
leaden sparrow
I'm sticking to legal missions, this one is categorized as professional takedown, paid 600k
leaden sparrow
Dominator armor tanks
austere lynx
I'm sticking to legal missions, this one is categorized as professional takedown...
Ah good, if you have a station you generally call home try to build your reputation up to friendly or even allied.
You get more mission offerings at higher rep, and they typically pay better
My home station has 7 or so factions at it and I'm friendly with 5 of them, allied with 1
Usually have some odd 80 missions to pick from
Not including the Odyssey ones
crude minnow
Riley's piece on Star Citizen is great
leaden sparrow
Although I did try a couple missions from the terminal and they haven't been paying me so I've been sticking with NPC mission givers
crude minnow
One of my favorite hit pieces on SC so far
gritty fulcrum
that video was awesome, very pinpointed
glass plinth
discord
random flax
south oasis
Linus Tech Tips did a video about Star Citizen and compare it to Elite Dangerous...
thats not Linus T Ts video . lol
first part of video is taken from a game session of SC Linus was in, with a SC content creator.
Morphologis
late spade
TechLinked is Linus Tech Tips another channel. Just if you didn't know
south oasis
ah didnt know but kinda negative imo. not typical from their main channel.
just installed realMYST time for a little nostalgia
analog seal
Trying to get some help here. Laptop sucks so bought a GPU+ package from Paper Space and still can’t launch the game
Keep getting a black screen
south oasis
Just use Gimp2 or photoshop CS for image editing .
south oasis
Play Odyssey via GeForce Now
Odyssey graphics are bleh
south oasis
Trying to get some help here. Laptop sucks so bought a GPU+ package from Paper S...
first time i hear of Paper Space ?
is this like shadow gaming platform ?
late spade
Just use Gimp2 or photoshop CS for image editing .
Or this https://youtu.be/AkKxHuKFOsU
south oasis
Trying to get some help here. Laptop sucks so bought a GPU+ package from Paper S...
i run star citizen on low end, but not laptop. 1050ti i7 8700 non k coffee lake .
16 gb ram.
runs even hot at times with SC.
however with some system tweaks, i can run it stable.
scenic rune
thats not Linus T Ts video . lol
Morph's video and Riley's video were the same game session. They all played together. (Doing it again right now on Twitch and Youtube)
deep mason
Average 20fps complainer vs average 20fps enjoyer
late spade
This experience is why I like Odyssey...
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/niwwfj/i_was_on_the_edge_of_my_shit_the_entire_time/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
marble sphinx
Linus Tech Tips did a video about Star Citizen and compare it to Elite Dangerous...
it's funny that this video gets so much pray, while I made the exact same points in a reddit post and got downvoted to hell. hah
marble sphinx
I posted it in both subreddits, in /r/sc_refund and /r/sc
both subreddits went full REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
only a couple of posts were actually reasonable people
I bet 100% that those exact people who shitted on my points are now like: 
late spade
it's funny that this video gets so much pray, while I made the exact same points...
Maybe because you didn't make funny video? 🤔
marble sphinx
marble sphinx
The modmail is not working again for me, so I am just going to post it in here:
context:
answer:
I would like to add a couple of things to my original recommendation, that I forgot.
The idea was to have a quicker response to very basic questions without having to link or copy something out of #beginner-faq and so on. Because, experience-wise only a very little amount of people actually click on those channels, when you try to help them in #star-citizen. Plus, those faq channels are rather difficult to navigate for the normal joe and have an extreme information density, which is actually good, but not everyone wants to go through it.
Basically, to slice those things up into digestible pieces, that can be posted from a group of people, that are known to be helpful.
It's a rather small thing, but I am quite sure it will have a big impact.
It would be even possible for me to create such simple bot. I am not extremely experienced in advanced bot-coding, but I do have my own bot (wewbot) running, that can post those very simple requests like mentioned in the original post. It wouldn't need to have any permssions but posting something in a given channel. I could create a new bot on the same code-basis like him, just with a complete different purpose, so hawx doesn't have to deal with his bot.
@junior coyote
mystic juniper
the shard our bot was on died, so modmail is back now
marble sphinx
do i use modmail again, or should i just keep it here @mystic juniper
mystic juniper
modmail is a bit easier for us, if you don't mind
mystic juniper
it works for me
marble sphinx
weird
idle canopy
weird
Maybe you have to rejoin the server, just let a mod know so you can get roles back
marble sphinx
hmmmm
or i got muted from the bot itself because of the previous attempt?
idk
but i guess it's not a big deal anyways
Moderators saw my post here and can read it
idle canopy
or i got muted from the bot itself because of the previous attempt?
Hmm that's also possible
fierce wadi
https://youtu.be/7bD-GOLOU1U hi guys making a pocket version of FREELANCER inspired game. Mostly touch based interface! https://youtu.be/7bD-GOLOU1U please feedback from this community would mean A LOT! I love FREELANCER! And Chris!
Right now I have over a billion “Systems” with a little lag but no crashes! 🥲 procedurally Generated 😁 it fits in your pocket! And it’s multiplayer! 😅
marble sphinx
what do you do other than just flying around and shootin stuff?
fierce wadi
Well eventually we are going to have mining asteroids and nebulas
And finding “modules”
marble sphinx
cool.
fierce wadi
Thank you! 😀
marble sphinx
fierce wadi
If anyone would like to learn more of starcitizen in your pocket I would gladly give you info 👍😅
@warm dome 😅🥲
fierce wadi
That would be amazing. Honestly! I would love to work on a project like StarCitizen Module 😶🌫️
fierce wadi
strong harness
What game
fierce wadi
It's called "Exo" not out yet. Obviously short for EXODUS which is like the freeing of humanity from slavery. :3
what do i know
turbid nimbus
RIP Paul Mooney 😦
marble sphinx
https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/nj37xq/so_in_all_of_this_what_h...
dude
that one guy in the comments
who legit wrote a fugn book
lmao
yep E:D community is the same as sc community
spark marsh
I would like to add a couple of things to my original recommendation, that I for...
Fun fact, ZBot has had this functionality for years and I just deleted it over the weekend as part of a rewrite as nobody was using it 🙃
marble sphinx
Fun fact, ZBot has had this functionality for years and I just deleted it over t...
Oh, nice!
Kinda sad that no one really knew about this functionality
placid phoenix
@marble sphinx NEVER believe a word Frontier say; they’ve lied and over-promised since ED was announced - they originally had design documents they shared about all the tech and complexity they were going to put into all the systems, all the mechanics and ai and ship complexities - what they shipped in alpha looked nothing like that.
That's pretty good
