industrial-professions

[pastel flame]

Buy low sell high

[pastel flame]

Randomly ran across a cautious *Hull A full of cargo tonight

[shell edge]

Hull A, hull C is not ingame yet, and is a lot larger

[pastel flame]

My bad, it's late/early 🙂

You mean it doesn't go CABDE? hehe

[shell edge]

🙂

[pastel flame]

First one I've seen in the wild

[marble crater]

I hope the Freelancer rework gives it Hull A vibes

[ember grail]

!trading

[wary tusk]

Trading

Click [here](#976514975646482472 message) to learn the basics of Trading in Star Citizen.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[shell edge]

@bold token Take the SCU you have on your ship, multiply that with 100, and you have the number of units of commodity you can fit on your ship. In trade terminals on mining outposts or research outposts you can buy stuff, and sell it to the trade terminals in the main cities (for example). Profit = SCU x 100 x (Sell price - buy price) - fuel cost - repair cost.

In addition, you want to take supply and demand of a commodity into consideration. Some commodities have a low supply and/or low demand, so even though the difference between the sell price and buy price is high, you can't fill up a large ship quickly, so you may be better off doing multiple trade runs with a commodity with a smaller profit margin but a larger supply&demand.

[hollow sedge]

Mole is fixed on PTU btw

For those who want to mine after the wipe

[north oyster]

Mining is probably the most complete game loop going (besides Bounty Hunting). There is a little more than fly & play though there is an expected randomness to mining. In the 3.17 build, active angle ping was introduced that allowed miners to identify deposits (in space) from greater distances (up to 12K). so this sped up finding quantainium.

Trade isn't in a great place at the moment. Currently it only favors the largest ships like the C2, Carrack, CAT, etc.

But it does work and you can earn ok aUEC

[north oyster]

I look forward to seeing @thin escarp and the L.O.S.T crew start tearing it up again after the wipe. Anyone wishing learn and earn in Mining need to be sure to plug-in

New patch should drop sometime after the 14th

[fading escarp]

18th* I'd assume.. after the free fly event..

wouldn't be fun for the nevercomers coming on seeing their hardearned / donated money vanished

[north oyster]

Hard earned coin in a dumpster fire patch known as 3.17.1, that's for sure.

[coarse swallow]

Yep I found a video talking about how to actually use the scan angle to identify it and it helped a ton

[north oyster]

Not sure which one you watched but the one by Red Monster SC was also excellent. The technique super charged my mining in the Halo

Two evenings, 16 runs total, earnings 3.6M aUEC

[errant wraith]

Had a thought as I was waking up today. I noticed during the Ninetails Lockdown mission that there was a Commodity Alert on the screen, and after that popped up, the stock levels at Hickes and Deakins for Medical Supplies rocketed up so I could fill my Hercules. Are the commodity alerts an indicator of updated stock levels, then?

[rugged axle]

Probably has something to do with it. But nine tails lockdown med supplies were part of the event. So maybe not

[rancid compass]

What happens if you don't select all materials for a work order? Can you not refine some at one refinery, and then take the others to another refinery?

[cobalt rivet]

where do you go to refine/process ore

[fallen atlas]

refineries at stations

like HUR L1, etc.

[cobalt rivet]

o7

[muted fox]

i really want to nolife mine once the wipe happens to buy people prospectors if they work for me

[pastel flame]

The mission for 9T specifically makes med supplies available for duration of event

The commodity alerts are not to be trusted XD

[mellow monolith]

i need to sell off medical supplies wheres a good spot to sell a whole lot

[fallen atlas]

https://uexcorp.space/routes

[mellow monolith]

thankjs

[gloomy crystal]

where am i supposed to sell my mined ore in my ship

[fallen atlas]

Look 2 messages up.

[gloomy crystal]

i see that but like umm how do i know what i got to know where to sell

[fallen atlas]

You don't know what you mined?

[gloomy crystal]

lmao no

[fallen atlas]

realistically you can just take them to any space port or trading console.

[gloomy crystal]

i mined got told my storage was full then idk where to go

[fallen atlas]

If you're not paying attention to what you're mining it won't matter much where you sell it.

[gloomy crystal]

i see, but when i go to sell it wont let me select anything to sell

it says no commodities found

[fallen atlas]

are you selecting the inventory you want to sell from in the terminal?

[gloomy crystal]

yh ive selected the ship but nothing shows

[fallen atlas]

on the starting page in the top left there should be several options of inventories like the local station, your armor/backpack, and your ship

then your ship has nothing sellable in it.

Are you mining in a ROC maybe?

[gloomy crystal]

in the prospector

[fallen atlas]

If you have stuff in the ship it should list the sellable commodities.

Really doesn't help that you don't know what you were mining.

[gloomy crystal]

am i supposed to refine it?

[fallen atlas]

I have no clue because I don't know what you mined.

[gloomy crystal]

it says no commodities to sell but my ships inv is full

[fallen atlas]

full... of...

Try going to a refinery and see what refinable things you have.

[cerulean lichen]

So post wipe what do you guys think will be better to take roc mining. The freelancer or a cutlass black? I went cutlass on my first grind but wondering if I should try the freelancer this time around.

[bright peak]

I use a nomad

[hardy mesa]

I prefer the cutlass small and no elevator like the Nomad love that little ship but the max and cutlass just feel faster for roc mining but since I have the orion pledged I get a mole so me and a few organization mates are probably going to run that

[cobalt rivet]

just get prospector

🙂

[hardy mesa]

Nope mole and scouts for me

[cobalt rivet]

How do you collect the ore once its refined

[cobalt rivet]

wierd I stored the Prospector but it wont let me select it as my choice collector for the refined ore

but maybe because its a free fly ship?

[dreamy river]

You need a cargo ship to haul the refined ore to a city

[cobalt rivet]

Cutty?

[cerulean lichen]

Yah. My goal is cutlass and roc, then use those to afford a prospector. From there I’ll save for other ships

[cobalt rivet]

CUTTY!?

[dreamy river]

Will work

[cobalt rivet]

aww yiii

[dreamy river]

Up to like 42 scu I think

[cobalt rivet]

gucci

I just want to learn the supply chain for when the wipe happens

ship has to be STORED when loading the ore right

[cerulean lichen]

As much as I hate to loose my c2 soon, I think I’ll enjoy the wipe. Will give me a good reason to want to grind again

[dreamy river]

Yup

[bright peak]

How long did it take you to grind the c2?

[cerulean lichen]

Not to long. I was halfway there after 2 weeks of quant mining when I got a random gift of 10million. So by that math, 4 weeks of casual mining to get it

[cobalt rivet]

who exactly do you deliver the ores to

[hardy mesa]

Tdd terminal on the main planets ie new Babbage area 18 ect

[cobalt rivet]

tdd?

[cobalt rivet]

ah, thanks

[fallen atlas]

!trading

[wary tusk]

Trading

Click [here](#976514975646482472 message) to learn the basics of Trading in Star Citizen.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[topaz bay]

so, trying to decide on pledge ships, I currently have the prospector and the aegis stalker, but obviously, need a ship that can transport the quantanium once refined, was thinking either cutlas black or the freelance max, thoughts?

[mental aurora]

Either would be fine. Personally I'd rent both in game and see what I prefer

Or grab the cheaper one first and upgrade if you want to

[onyx crow]

the max would def give you more space to haul with

z_s cutlass black

[stark torrent]

Drake Interplanetary (DRAK)

Cutlass Black

The Drake AS-1 Cutlass Black (also known as DCB1) is a low-cost, easy-to-maintain solution for local in-system militia units. The larger-than-average cargo hold, RIO seat and dedicated tractor mount are, the company literature insists, for facilitating search and rescue operations. The Cutlass Black is very popular among pirates.

Role

Medium Fighter / Medium Freight

Crew

1 – 2

Cargo

46.00 SCU

Length

36.00m

Height

14.00m

Beam

26.00m

Mass

246,557 Kg

Combat Speed

165 m/s

Max Speed

1114 m/s

In-Game Price

1,385,300 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$100.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · SPViewer · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[onyx crow]

z_s freelancer max

[stark torrent]

Musashi Industrial and Starflight Concern (MISC)

Freelancer MAX

The MISC Freelancer MAX is a heavy transport variant of the Freelancer ship. It sacrifices weaponry for an increased cargo capacity and has a extra pair of main thrusters to help it move larger payloads. This makes it ideal for moving heavy equipment, vehicles or raw materials.

Role

Heavy Freight

Crew

1 – 4

Cargo

120.00 SCU

Length

38.00m

Height

9.50m

Beam

36.00m

Mass

360,208 Kg

Combat Speed

154 m/s

Max Speed

1005 m/s

In-Game Price

2,181,500 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$150.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · SPViewer · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[onyx crow]

46 vs 120

[mental aurora]

If its for hauling you'll probably end up with the taurus tbh. At least that's where I ended up.

Oh I forgot how small the cutlass cargo capacity was lol

[onyx crow]

well for pledge ... probably worried about cost

taurus a bit more costly isn't it?

z_s taurus

[stark torrent]

Roberts Space Industries (RSI)

Constellation Taurus

The Constellation Taurus is the freighter variant of the large multi-crew Constellation series manufactured by Roberts Space Industries (RSI). It trades the side missile racks and the stub fighter for additional cargo space, a cargo release system for quick unloading, and a security hold reinforced with tech plating.

Role

Medium Freight

Crew

3 – 4

Cargo

174.00 SCU

Length

61.00m

Height

14.00m

Beam

26.00m

Mass

427,001 Kg

Combat Speed

144 m/s

Max Speed

911 m/s

In-Game Price

3,256,400 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$190.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · SPViewer · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[onyx crow]

yea 150 to 190

[mental aurora]

Yeah true. But tbh if you have a prospector your best bet is not pledge either. You'll be able to buy either in game pretty quick. And you can rent to transport quant

[onyx crow]

depends on your budget and what you want for space for hauling

[mental aurora]

I only ended up with the cutlass and then the taurus coz I wanted a good multi-role ship

[onyx crow]

Yea, and then of course if you want multi-role ... the cutty wins

[hardy mesa]

If you want just hauling hull a is a good value

90 usd

64 scu

[north oyster]

Others may have replied but what is not selected while setting up a refinery job gets discarded

[north oyster]

You can only sell mined raw ore at a refinery. Those consoles are on the left when you enter the refinery job area. HUR-L1 & L2, CRU-L1, ARC-L1 and MIC-L1 are those locations

[rancid compass]

Gotcha! Thanks! o7

[keen frost]

long day

[pastel flame]

Good haul Joe 🙂

[north oyster]

did you transfer the gems to local inventory or boxes? Or where you using a ROC-DS?

[keen frost]

only looting the bodies/boxes

it was 250k of dollvine

[north oyster]

ah, ok, that makes sense. Unfortunately in the next patch they are taking Hadanite out of the loot boxes

[keen frost]

ah ok, i saw something about changing the loot tables for gems. but at least we will have the moles back

[north oyster]

Amen!

I've done some Prospector mining in the PTU and it's the same as the currently build (the best I can tell). I mine exclusively in the Halo, so I was good to see things still on an even keel

[keen frost]

ya i like the halo also. It's nice having a few options for collecting cash after wipe

just doing rep related stuff until wipe

[north oyster]

makes sense and a wise move. I'm one of those odd balls that has built a fleet to handle the multiple resets that are going to be part of this game going gold.

Ready to start printing money right out of the gate

[keen frost]

Yeah I'm anxious for the wipe. Ready for some of these fixes

[dapper mesa]

Anything that you mine in prospector you can sell raw at refinery Station or has to be refined at refinery station.

[cobalt rivet]

Are ores random or do you get better ores in certain places#

[foggy narwhal]

how much can you make per hour mining in a prospector? (on average not just if you had a hella good mining run)

[onyx crow]

ores are sorta random but they only spawn in certain systems

[hardy mesa]

100k with no skill per hr would be my guess with that quickly increasing as you get more comfortable

[onyx crow]

There's a table that shows what ores spawn in what systems/belts

[hardy mesa]

But bad luck does exist so less if you're unlucky

[hollow sedge]

yes

lol

[foggy narwhal]

happens with every profession in this game... hopefully less so as time goes on

[hardy mesa]

True in the meantime

[cobalt rivet]

Diamonds any good

Saw a large chunk of them

Left them behind

[foggy narwhal]

I am going to start using this, gonna be ripped by the end of the week

[cobalt rivet]

Thats the chart i need

[mental aurora]

100k/h seems only when you're actually learning, should be at least 2-3x that on the low end once you know what you're doing.

[hardy mesa]

I think 250k is average with a solo prospector more if you have a scout

[foggy narwhal]

ah well, im new to it but fortunately a quick learner

[hardy mesa]

Good time to learn

[mental aurora]

That's pretty low imo at least for belt mining, that's what I end up with on bad belt runs currently. Well where I was before I took a break pre wipe

[cobalt rivet]

Just do bunkers and sell the loot

[hardy mesa]

I enjoy mining more

Personal preference

[cobalt rivet]

Mining risky

[hardy mesa]

So are bunkers and with stability in this patch it's all a risk might aswell enjoy the pain

[cobalt rivet]

Nah bunkers aren’t risky at all

Pirates dont target bunkers

[mental aurora]

It's really not that risky though. Once you get the hang of it it's pretty easy not to kill yourself and even if you factor in the occasional death it doesn't really cost you that much

[cobalt rivet]

You solo mine/cargo haul , your stuff you worked so hard for could be wiped in one run if you land in a pirate QT trap

Player traps are worst

[hardy mesa]

Rarely happens in my experience and I usually have escorts from scouts since I mine with a mole not to mention most players only run bunkers and also target bunker mission players all the same regardless play the loop you like don't discourage new players for wanting to learn

[cobalt rivet]

If you play with orgs its hella profitable

[marble crater]

might see more pirating when Cargo Refactor is in game. haven't seen it myself after making over $100M in mining

[cobalt rivet]

Soloing is risky

[mental aurora]

Same but I only got to about 20-5M so far.

And all solo too

[marble crater]

my figure is from patch 3.11 to 3.17 so a little over a year

[mental aurora]

Nice. I only started in 3.17

[hardy mesa]

Pirating should be fun with the legion and srv emp with one of the few options for emps hold in place with an srv and borde with a legion

[marble crater]

I did see pirate traps during the Audio Visual Trade boom but $17M a run was worth the risk for me

[cobalt rivet]

Pay the extortion fee

Depending on whether they are in good mood or if you have contacts on discord that know them, they might just let you go

[marble crater]

they only asked for $2M the 2 times I was stopped which is fine by me

still made around $164M

[cobalt rivet]

I plan on just st doing 3 bunkers a day and stashing up weapons and armor for trade

Gonna spend a proportionate amount of time doing bounties and fkn around

The only way you will catch me doing mining is if i was a scout

[hardy mesa]

Just a question why are you in the cargo and mining chat and not the combat and flight room

[marble crater]

lol tru

I'm looking forward to jumping in the Prospector day 1 of the wipe myself

[hardy mesa]

Mole with the clan for me

[marble crater]

hell yeah glad that's fixed

[onyx crow]

I wish I could Prospect day 1 ... I'm low balling in a titan avenger carrying some packages and bunker missions until I can afford to rent a cutty and ROC to buy a Prospector

[cobalt rivet]

Do hand mining

[marble crater]

well Mole is fixed next patch so look out for peeps needing laser operators

[cobalt rivet]

You can squeze a 2 scu box in the titan and stash up sum serious oress

[marble crater]

operation Cross will be back in business too so he'll be looking for crew as well

[cobalt rivet]

Til you can afford a larger op

[onyx crow]

more than what I could get out of bunker missions?

/delivery missions

[cobalt rivet]

I dunno if you get an uncommon armor piece its 50 k, a big gun its 100k, on top of whatever the bunker pays you. 60-90k

[marble crater]

yeah but you need to sell that to players which isn't a guarantee

[cobalt rivet]

Its pretty much sold once the wipes happen

[onyx crow]

ah

[cobalt rivet]

Every orgs gonna be ordering sets for pvp

[marble crater]

if you say so, big rng there

more so than mining tbh

[cobalt rivet]

It is big rng

[onyx crow]

hmm .... yea

[hardy mesa]

Most will get them themselves

Especially if it's a big org internal traders

[cobalt rivet]

Its a supply demand situation

[hardy mesa]

Most wont want to spend 50k on a single armor piece since most will need ships

[cobalt rivet]

Most orgs already have ships

[marble crater]

I've done some player trading and the time it takes to organise to meet etc you could have done several more bunkers/mining runs

[cobalt rivet]

I dont sit around waiting for people , i stash and schedule a time to offload the goods

Selling items one by one is dumb

[hardy mesa]

Good for you slow clap the rest of us enjoy our mining loop like this chat is for

[cobalt rivet]

Ty for the slow clap

[marble crater]

any news on refining costs in ptu, seems to be alot of confusion whether it's gone up in price

[hardy mesa]

From what I've heard refinement has gone up

[marble crater]

will be interesting to see how much

[hardy mesa]

I don't think it will be to bad after all gameplay will be stale if they keep treating gameplay loops like cargo ignoring it and nerfing profits at least till 3.18

[cobalt rivet]

Lol nerfing profits

[marble crater]

think of the poor Reclaimer owners who are still waiting for Salvage lol

[cobalt rivet]

Salvage not coming anytime soon?

[hardy mesa]

At least the elevator is fixed in the next update

3.18

[marble crater]

3.18 will be bare bones Tier 0 salvage

[cobalt rivet]

Oof

[hardy mesa]

For salvage

[marble crater]

so not ship levels of salvage but hand tools

[cobalt rivet]

Salvagers should be the only ones who should have access to scu boxes/ scu box recovery

[hardy mesa]

Maybe ships but we still need tractor beams scanning and a couple of other things so we might get ships but last I saw the vultures had work extended

[marble crater]

not sure tractor beams will be in 3.18.0 patch. requires alot of work on several ships

Cargo refactor will be Tier 0

so you'll have the bare bones system for loading/unloading times etc

[hardy mesa]

Hard to truly say right now and we still don't know when 3.18 will even begin to get tested

[marble crater]

I would think this kind of base level setup is what the first patch will be about. getting the UI/systems in place

actual tractor beams/physical loading would come later

as with most Tier 0 implementations

cause that would also require reworks to the Cat, Taurus etc for their tractor beams

[hardy mesa]

Again hard to say since we don't know what cig has planned and tractor beams are being worked on right now

[marble crater]

yeah I was basing that off the progress tracker

[hardy mesa]

That's just work not implementation cause a few thing have been brought into the game while still being worked on

[marble crater]

true we might get an early version of it in 3.18

[hardy mesa]

Even if it's limited to a few ships for testing who knows

[coarse swallow]

can you not adjust ping angle in a MOLE turret?

[timber moth]

So I was hand mining then I had the infinite loading bug, so I logged out and I don't have an inventory

[onyx crow]

You don't log out with your inventory if you weren't in a space station/city/bed

[timber moth]

I was at a station

[onyx crow]

I've read here that you should empty your inventory at stations before you log but I've not had any issues with it yet ... knock on wood

[timber moth]

So if infinite loading bug was happening I had to sell my "loot" first then log off?

[onyx crow]

It might've just had to do with the fact that you had the inventory bug as well though

possibly

Hopefully a bug that will cease with the upcoming patch

[timber moth]

pain

[cobalt rivet]

It doesnt matter where you logout as long as the loot was on you and you didn’t die

What probably happened was a desync as you were picking up ore so it didnt really save whatever you picked up server side

[onyx crow]

Can you trade/sell scrap yet?

or is it not quite implemented in game yet like waste?

[pastel flame]

Yes, you can run scrap now.

[deep vector]

Does it really worth it?

[vestal ravine]

Can Surge and Stampede be bought at Microtech?

[ember grail]

!itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[pastel flame]

No cargo is worth it

[deep vector]

80-90k for 15 mins with titanium is decent

[pastel flame]

None of those numbers add up for me

I spend 940k in lara/titanium mix and pull roughly 150k profit on live for a trip

Nobody's doing the full loop in 15 mins IMO

[onyx crow]

It all adds up

[deep vector]

In lorville it’s around that

[north oyster]

Scrap in a C2 from A18 to ARC-L1 is just under 30K profit run. Scrap is purchased by only (in this build) at Cru L5, Hur L5, Mic L1, Arc L1

[hollow sedge]

is possible to anyone teach me how to prosc mine?

[cold stag]

Where would i place toxic waste in a drake cutlass? ive tried placing them in what looks to be the cargo area but the mission keeps saying i havent collected any toxic waste from the site. Any help is a appreciated!

[junior fulcrum]

Is the MISC Hull A a good ship

[jagged valve]

With the prospector ... once full, can the 32 SCU be jettison for say, a cutlass to transport to station while prospector continues?

[dapper mesa]

Nope have to carry it to station yourself

[bright peak]

Coming from eve online? 🙂I used to do that with my mining barges.

[glacial dagger]

Eventually that will be possible with the cargo refactor, but as of right now, no 😦

[jagged valve]

yeah, that would make for a decent coop loop. just saw this on the .tools website and thought I'd ask.
Detachable Containers: When the vehicles storage containers are full with ore, these can be easily detached and transferred to another ship for the ore to be either sent to be processed or to be sold raw.

[hallow fractal]

Hey Guys! Do you maybe know where can I buy a Stampede Module for mining? The L1 terminals are not working and IDK which planet sells them

[misty coyote]

Try Lorville

[hallow fractal]

Tammary and Sons?

[misty coyote]

Yep

[hallow fractal]

That is not selling it 😦

[misty coyote]

Ah bums..

Does Dumpers at Area 18 have them?

[hallow fractal]

No 😦

There are the 2 I tried. Dumpers and Tammary

but IDK any other shop. I mean Port Olisar was a try too

but that is not good either

[misty coyote]

There is a place in New Babbage I think....

Someone will know in sure..

[hallow fractal]

Ty. I'll try that nextr

I rather fly all the way to NB than try to exit the atmosphere at Orison xD

Does CIS plan to decrease the atmosphere level around Orison from 150.000 to 100.000 maybe? That would be greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat 😅

[hallow fractal]

Thanks for the idea @misty coyote 🙂

Also, where can I report a serial litterer and call for cleaning? 😄

Somebody left some stuff

[misty coyote]

You're welcome.

[north oyster]

finder.cstone.space
Best locator in the 'versr

[dapper mesa]

New babbage, the commons, shubin interstellar

[tidal forum]

hi all... when ever i find a quant node.... it's 7000ish ... is there a way to harvest this with upgraded prospector?... or do i need consumables?

feels like forever to find something undewr 6000 with a decent quant amount

also this seems like a basic question.. is there any value to use ing V to change scanning mode?

[onyx crow]

Anything over 6k is too large for a single prospector unless you have upgrades/consumes

'V' is used to switch to scan mode. When in scan mode, pull the trigger or left click on the mouse and hold to 'fire' the scanner and it'll scan whatever it is you're scanning whether it be ship or mining node.

If it be ship, it'll tell you everything within.

When the scan completes

If you're in a prospector, I think "V" is kinda useless when used for ore because you can pull your laser out and it'll do the same scan but I could be wrong

[tidal forum]

amazing thanks

[fallen atlas]

I know your question was answered but the !itemfinder is great. Thought I'd drop that for your future use.

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[tidal forum]

on average how long does it take you to find a really good node?

[onyx crow]

kinda random honeslty, it could be the moment you touch ground from space or minutes after touching ground

but knowing the terrain helps

watch some videos on what to look for

red legion has some great mining videos

[tidal forum]

yeah... i bet... i spent 45 min to find anything under 6k mass whichg was 2400 mass with 13%

[onyx crow]

one of the top miners in the world

i hear

[tidal forum]

ok i will have to check... cuz a few nights ago it took me 90 min to find a solid node.. first one i have found... and on the LAST rock it exploded and disabled my ship lol

[thin escarp]

@tidal forum i have some guides pinned in this channel

[tidal forum]

thanks i'm watching some now

[rigid basalt]

Gonna have a look at those too, I been leaning away from mining just because I suck absolute ass at finding nodes

[north oyster]

Check out Red Monster SC video on Ping Active Angle radar. It super charged my mining. Two evenings, 16 refinery jobs, 3.5M aUEC

[bright peak]

Those of you with prospectors - after a wipe how do you make enough to buy the head and modules

[rigid basalt]

thanks just watched it and gonna go practice a bit

[rigid basalt]

I play on doing bunkers until I get enough to buy the prospector

[bright peak]

If I pledge one, do bunkers until I get enough for the mining head and modules?

Or just mine other things

[cerulean lichen]

What I do is grind box missions to get a cutlass, then do roc mining to afford the prospector.
Or are you asking people who have pledges to one?

[rigid basalt]

Do you have any areas with maxed out rep?

[mental aurora]

You only really need enough for the mining head which is relatively cheap if you have a pledge prospector. With that just get one load sell the ore and you can buy everything else from that. That's my plan at least.

[rigid basalt]

well dam the video helped out alot lol

[hardy mesa]

I have a constellation andromeda as a loaner ship so I was going to rent an roc for 4k run one load 200k easy upgrade prospector all the way use the rest to run jobs till I'm out then go back to roc mining if you need to you can rent an roc and cutty for about 40k 10k for Pembroke armor any you are good to go

[tidal forum]

man i FINALLY got a proper full load of quant.... now whats the process of refining instead of just blindly selling?

[hardy mesa]

Pick a prosses at a refinery

[tidal forum]

is that all for quant?

so dinyx is the best?

[hardy mesa]

Pretty much store your ship go to the refinery lvl head to the terminal in the office select your prospector from there select your Quant select your method wait for the prosses to finish load into your cargo deliver to one of the main hubs tdd stations.

[tidal forum]

think i can break a 5886 stone with upgraded prospector?

33%

quant

is there a weay to adjust power to help

resisitance 0l18

[hardy mesa]

It would be close but im not sure a single one can

[onyx crow]

dinyx is the best as long as you're not in any rush

[mental zealot]

Anyone have a mining org? I'm a star farer and I want to help the miners when the refining comes out

[onyx crow]

Is it feasible to pick up more than one delivery mission at a time and deliver without mixing them and/or being able to tell which pckg is for which location?

[marble crater]

be nice if they let you track multiple missions at once

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, that used to be the way to do delivery missions. But with how often they bug out now, I can't say I recommend it.

You end up adding a potential time wasting multiplier to it if something breaks.

[onyx crow]

right

where is it that people have issues with delivery missions ... cuz i've not had any issues yet

[worthy scroll]

They just like to bug out a lot these days. Boxes become unusable, delivery spots not working, things like that.

[onyx crow]

hmm

[worthy scroll]

Box dispensers spitting out multiples of the same box and not giving you all the boxes required.

If they're working for you, then by all means, keep on doing them.

[onyx crow]

oh

I've been getting them off the shelves mostly

[worthy scroll]

Maybe they've done some work on them, I admit that I haven't played in a couple patches. Box missions used to be my bread and butter, my "relaxing" gameplay.

[onyx crow]

No, they still have pins in the help channel to recommend not to do them due to bugs

[worthy scroll]

Ah, that stinks.

I'm one of those who wishes they reverted box missions to what they used to be. It was better back then.

[onyx crow]

they have reason being admin officer not accepting though .... i don't have to ever deal with the officer ...

I only recently started playing a week or two ago so I wouldn't know

'back then' i mean

[worthy scroll]

Gotcha. Used to be box missions were one box per mission, and the payout was higher. Now you do much more work for much less pay. When they're working.

[onyx crow]

ah

[marble crater]

I find box deliveries ok as long as you avoid locations at space/planet stations. had better success sticking to outpost spots

[onyx crow]

yea, that's what i've been trying to stick to

lol

[worthy scroll]

About the only ones that consistently worked for me anymore were the QT sensitive ones, and only the single box missions around Hurston.

[onyx crow]

so far so good

haven't gotten that far yet

[marble crater]

the Tier 2 deliveries pay well $45K but are all set in bunkers

[onyx crow]

nice

[worthy scroll]

And they're combat missions too, so that may or may not be your cup of tea.

[onyx crow]

i'm a jack of all trades

[marble crater]

yeah a little bit of fps involved, the hostiles spawn in after you find the first box so it's a great way to loot

can take your time at the start looting then touch the boxes

[worthy scroll]

I should probably do one of those some day. I don't really have any interest in FPS combat, so I haven't bothered yet.

[marble crater]

I tend to do a bit of everything as there's so little content currently

[worthy scroll]

I'm more of a chill out, no stress citizen. Boxes, cargo, mining. I did a lot of bounty missions because that's where the money was, but combat really isn't my main focus. I'm just waiting on salvage and exploration.

[marble crater]

exploration would be nice, will be at least another year before that starts

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. I've been patiently waiting for years already, I'm ok with waiting longer. Plenty of other games to play in the mean time 😉

[onyx crow]

refueling is supposed to pick up this next patch

[ember grail]

How so?

[marble crater]

refueling won't really be needed until Pyro is in game tbh

[onyx crow]

with pyro

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, Stanton is just too small.

[marble crater]

Stanton is too small with too many stops

[worthy scroll]

I'm moderately interested in fueling, I just don't like the ships.

[onyx crow]

or am i mixing things up

[marble crater]

Pyro is 4.0. Next patch is Cargo Refactor (3.18)

[worthy scroll]

But doing a Fuel Rats kind of thing is interesting.

[onyx crow]

ah

[marble crater]

Next patch is proper piracy lol

[onyx crow]

kool

coulda swore i seen a video about something making money with refueling next patch

[worthy scroll]

Be nice if we got blades along with that lol. Some protection.

[marble crater]

just get an escort

had no trouble getting an escort during the Audio Visual Trade boom

[worthy scroll]

I don't like people though 😂

[marble crater]

you might not like where this game is going then lol

[worthy scroll]

I was joking lol. I'm fully aware that the game isn't meant to be single player friendly. Though I bet a lot of people will still play that way. Myself included.

[marble crater]

yeah when Pyro is in it will be pretty rough to get around solo, but still doable

[worthy scroll]

How it will be populated will be interesting. Undoubtedly there will be places of interest that will attract people, but it's going to be a big system.

[marble crater]

well I can see pirates camping the jump gates for starters

[worthy scroll]

I'd love to see stealth implemented when that happens, at least give people some kind of chance against pirates.

Not everyone will be able to get a group for protection, and it'll be open season on those players.

[ember grail]

I wonder if jump gates will have security that you can disable

[worthy scroll]

There will be established gates, but other jump points will basically be open.

[ember grail]

ahh

[worthy scroll]

That's one of the points of exploration and pathfinder ships, to find those other jump points.

Find where they are and where they go.

[ember grail]

That's actually pretty dope

I'm hyped for that

I'm just imagining something like the mass effect relays in Mass Effect

[worthy scroll]

Not all ships are even able to go through them either, the ship needs a jump drive.

Then, the jump has to be manually piloted. I don't remember what show it was, maybe Dark Matter, but what they described for how the jumps will work is basically ripped straight out of a sci-fi show I used to watch.

Mess up the jump and you get spit out somewhere totally different from where you wanted to go.

[dapper mesa]

You can break massive rocks with surge, stampede, optimum combo. Look it up on YouTube.

[crimson oak]

Why would Covalax give me a delivery/pickup mission from a "restricted" zoned processing facility with a turret on it that shoots on sight?

wasn't even in the personal tab or anything, thought the regular missions were all lawful

[serene quest]

are you able to use those yellow covalex crates at all?

like can you put things in em?

[crimson oak]

im not sure what you mean

[onyx crow]

how much was the payout for the mission?

[crimson oak]

45k

[onyx crow]

||There are essentially 'bunker' type delivery package missions where you have to go down in a bunker and pick up packages to deliver|| @crimson oak

[marble crater]

Bunkers are bugged at the moment and shoot at you even while doing a mission for them

well I assume it's a bug cause they never did that pre 3.17

if there's 1 turret you can park out the back

[crimson oak]

yeah i noticed something while doing that mission and when the turret shot at me i kinda messed up and rammed into the ground and died

when i went back to the same bunker the next time, the turret wasnt shooting at me

and the npc's inside the bunker, as soon as i shot them i got a crimestat

so im thinking maybe those npc are friendly? and thats how the mission is supposed to be, friendly turret, friendly guards?

so maybe the first time when it was hostile it was because someone else was there and shot at the guards, as the first time i did notice there were guns on the ground like someone already cleared it before me.

[marble crater]

yeah for the delivery bunkers it will be full of friendly guards so take your time to get used to what they look like. After you pick up the first box the enemies will begin to spawn in from the elevator doors

[onyx crow]

and apparently the packages aren't marked until you pick them up .... unless that's changed

[marble crater]

quickest way I found is to use a tractor tool and just lift them off the pallets and drop them on the ground. a mission marker will appear on the box when you've found the right one

will be 3 boxes

[crimson oak]

yes! i very much noticed that!

[crimson oak]

yeah i learned that as well, just running around spamming the traktor at every box i see

some decent enough loot to find as well in the odd rectangular box

now i gotta fix this crimestat...

[onyx crow]

don't take too long or someone might come fix it for you

though then again it's pretty late

are you aware of how to take care of crime stats?

[crimson oak]

yep

[hollow sedge]

can some1 teach me how to prosc mine?

[crimson oak]

fire away any questions

is it a rented prospector or did you buy it?

[hollow sedge]

bought

got a lancet head on it

and need to know the controls and where to go

[hollow sedge]

best place for prosc mining

?

[north oyster]

More it "caught" than "taught" with mining. I would suggest you go out and find some basic ore deposits before jumping straight to Quantainium. There are an assortment of YT vids on the basics of mining

There are two key places to mine in SC at this time: Lyria and Aaron's Halo

[hollow sedge]

just bought a prosc on an impulse and got no clue haha

[north oyster]

Once you learn to mine properly you will find that she prints money

As to Aaron's Halo, there are two KEY things you will need to know about

1. How to find the Halo and the different bands:

The other, and most important to learn how to use Ping active angle scanning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

I'd recommend checking out Red Monster SC's other videos for tips and tricks on mining

[hollow sedge]

ty

[north oyster]

Also, pinned at the top of this forum are some guides from the LOST mining corp.

[hollow sedge]

awesome

[north oyster]

what ship do you have for cargo delivery of refined products?

[hollow sedge]

c2

[north oyster]

K, good ship, she's a sweetie

[hollow sedge]

yessir

bit too big for my taste but shell do

[north oyster]

Speaking of refinery, there are two methods you will want to choose

Dinyx is the cheapest high yield but takes a very long time

Ferron is faster with same yield but slightly more expensive

Also, are you aware of the pending new patch that will be dropping probably after the 16th

[hollow sedge]

no

[rigid basalt]

This video helped me out yesterday

[hallow fractal]

I'm either the unluckiest or I'm doing it wrong. Trying to find Quantanioum on Lyre, flying around grey hills, and I do find eventually fields of them, but the highest % is around 7-8%. What am I doing wrong? Been doing this for 2 hours straight 😦 Starting to get frustrated

[rigid basalt]

have you learned how to ping angle scan?

[north oyster]

You can want to also try Aaron's Halo until you get the hang of it. Also, I had that same experience the first two weeks of 3.17 going live ... the dice gods hated me

[hallow fractal]

Sort of. I think, but how would that help finding better quantanium fields? I find them every 10-20 minutes, they are just poor in quantanium 😦

[rigid basalt]

watch this video @hallow fractal

[hallow fractal]

Thanks, it was informative and I'll use it more often. Also, did not help with finding better % or quantanium rocks 😅

[rigid basalt]

There is no trick to finding better % quant rocks

you just have to keep on truckin

[marble crater]

all you can do is use tricks to find where the quant is, the amount is all rng

[rigid basalt]

^

[north oyster]

Halo or Lyria?

[crimson oak]

Anyone know why I'm getting a "Mass limit exceeded" error on my Multi-tool with the Tractor beam attachment? The tractor beam doesn't seem to work anymore all of a sudden, when you right click on it, that's the error that shows up on it. Would it have anything to do with being in a safe zone? Are they disabled inside them?

[marble crater]

can't use a multi tool in Armistice zone

[north oyster]

Just looking at the Free Fly and the ships in the line up, talk about Wow a great selection for sure

[hallow fractal]

Lyra

[north oyster]

There is word of specific areas near the mountain ranges that have abundant targets of opportunity. I don't mine Lyria, but I recall several specific areas that are pretty hot for deposits.

Shubin Mining Facility SAL-12 is one spot I saw mentioned

[cerulean lichen]

How is the caterpillar going to function in the refactor you guys think

[ember grail]

It'll probably have a relatively fast cargo loading time, but it's still far from gold standard. The cat is supposed to be modular and the side doors are supposed to function as elevators too

[cerulean lichen]

Ahh ok. I recently decided to start saving for IAE, and not buy anything until then and the cat looked like a really good value.

[north oyster]

The CAT has a lot of future value in that is will be modular also

[glacial dagger]

Personally, save past the Cat and go for a C2. More space, can carry larger vehicles, generally means waaay more profit

Being modular does give the cat an advantage over the C2 though I suppose

[north oyster]

I have the C2 but the CAT was the loaner while we waited. I came to appreciate the CAT but glad I have the C2 as my primary cargo

[ember grail]

We'll have to see how the C2 stacks up once cargo refactor hits

[cerulean lichen]

I love the C2 right now. It’s what I fly currently for trading in game. Grimes for it though

[north oyster]

I wonder how the real time will workout for the refactor, the Hull C with it's 4K+ of SCU might take a year to load, LOL

[ember grail]

Inb4 C2 has the slowest loading times

[cerulean lichen]

All I know is I love trading and finally except that I’ll need a decent size trader as a pledge ship. Honestly trade ships are so cool with the cargo space and size they are

[north oyster]

The refactor should allow the entry level ships to be viable earners considering that the last two trade ships CIG brought to market were the Hull A and the RAFT

[ember grail]

I do love both of those ships

[cerulean lichen]

Raft is my favorite cargo ship but wish it had 4 containers instead of 3

[north oyster]

I do see that being adjusted a little in the future (just my speculation)

[ember grail]

I wish they would fix the Raft's elevator

[north oyster]

Elevator the bane of SC

[ember grail]

The SFX on the Hull A when you extend the cargo spindle is just 👌

[north oyster]

Yeah, I can't wait to see that on the scale of the Hull C

My 400i is serving as the LTI token for the Hull C

though I am starting to really like the 400i, it's just it doesn't really serve any function

[scarlet sinew]

I’m honestly kinda worried about the refractor and cargo load times. There is already plenty of waiting around in the game, it really doesn’t need more of it tbh.

I get the “SiMUlaTiOn” argument, but there is a distinction between that and the game actually being, well, a game…

[marble crater]

if they add ship storing to outposts so you can leave the cargo ship there to be loaded I think longer times would be fine. Similar to how quant refining takes ages now

[cerulean lichen]

So no matter what I’m getting a cargo ship at IAE. Cargo trading is just relaxing to me. Be cool if we got cargo missions like in elite, like someone asks you to transfer cargo boxes for a fee

[north oyster]

The two latest ships then should be most ideal for load/unloading times but I'm not sure about the earnings potential based off what we have currently in the game. The cargo factor is going to be a monster change that touches every single aspect of the game

[marble crater]

I would expect a C2 loading time to be in the hours

[cerulean lichen]

Yah that’s the impression I’m getting

[ember grail]

Chris Roberts will always choose immersion over convenience, hence why we have public transit in cities

[misty coyote]

As an aesthetic, I really dislike the C2 over the Cat....I want to hear that it's going to pick up in usefulness

[ember grail]

Once they flesh out some of the ship systems (e.g. life support), it might give us something to do while we QT or wait for cargo loading times

[ember grail]

It will once they implement the cat's modules and side elevators

[cerulean lichen]

I’m fine waiting it’s just don’t want to have to be logged in while it loads. Like if I could start losing then log off and it ticks down time like prison that be great

[misty coyote]

Less useful for the Tana crew who are locked into their seats in QT

[scarlet sinew]

Sitting around waiting for hours does the exact opposite of immerse me in the game lol, but maybe that’s just me.

[marble crater]

do you sit around waiting for Quant to be refined?

you just go do other things, I would think cargo could be done the same way

[scarlet sinew]

But I would agree if it can happen while logged out, I might be ok with it. I’m used to mmos that have that sort of feature all the time.

[marble crater]

there's also going to be the madmen who will love logging in to to self load their haulers with a Mule lol

[scarlet sinew]

More power to them lol

[marble crater]

I would hope there's also a big ass version of the mule to bulk load

C2 may not have tractor beams but it does feature the best drive on/off setup in game

[scarlet sinew]

Personally, I’ll probably avoid playing forklift simulator when I could be cruising around in a space ship lol

[marble crater]

yeah but you could be getting the AI to use something like that

to speed up load times for the big ships

[scarlet sinew]

I do have a Taurus, so I’ll definitely probably mess with the tractor beam when it first works though

[marble crater]

cause some of the older concept pics showed some brutal load times

[misty coyote]

I'd load about 10SCU max before I got fed up each trip

[cerulean lichen]

C2 could have giant pallets like shown in the original Hercules ad

[marble crater]

which gives way more worth to ships with their own tractor beams

[scarlet sinew]

As far as AI loading the ship, that’s definitely a ways off imo. We can’t even get AI to not float in the air and T pose atm lol.

[marble crater]

good it will be quicker if they teleport

[misty coyote]

I thought they were all playing "Stuck in the Mud" UK residence will know...

[scarlet sinew]

Regardless, I hope they don’t turn hauling into a slog. It’s my chill game activity. When I want to fly a space ship and chill with a YT video or something on the 2nd monitor, hauling is great.

[pastel flame]

Hopefully it's diversified and has something more for all!

Missions AND chill scrap runs

[cerulean lichen]

Same. I don’t need to be rich in game but just need a fun and useful game play loop

[ember grail]

As far as I can tell the load times from those concept images is not representative of what we'll actually see

[hardy mesa]

Imagine the hull e load time 1 year wait

[ember grail]

By the time you unload your cargo the next wipe is already here

[hardy mesa]

98304 scus maybe the game would be out by the time it's loaded

[cerulean lichen]

Yah those super sized Hull series ships seem crazy to me. Like the amount it can transport seems almost game breaking

[marble crater]

one of the concept pics I did like was how you can sort the cargo order. thought that was quite unique

[hardy mesa]

As a hull d owner I want an e now to see

[north oyster]

By time we get to that level of hauling, we will have moved from the "owner of the cargo" to contracted labor to move the cargo. I see it all being reputation based

[cerulean lichen]

And hopefully won’t still be just in Stanton

[north oyster]

no way it can be just Stanton. The Hull E is too big for just one system

[cerulean lichen]

My thoughts exactly

[onyx crow]

Is there some really good hiding spots or something for the delivery pckgs in the bunkers? I cannnot find the 3rd pckg ...

[cerulean lichen]

Have you checked the pallets by the entrance to the lift?

[onyx crow]

yes

[misty coyote]

Rep will be really important, especially for PhP cargo.....

THat's Player Hiring Player..I just invented the name....

[onyx crow]

welp that was it

nvm

thank you

no enemy contact though ..... that normal?

[cerulean lichen]

Your welcome. That location always gets me

And it’s rare but yes it can happen

[marble crater]

sometimes I get no enemies in the bunker deliveries

[onyx crow]

k

must've been timing, sounds like they're down there firing now

[marble crater]

not your problem now lol

[north oyster]

I really do need to start carrying a gun eventually, and learning to fire it, LOL

The Siege of Orison is going to be wicked

[cerulean lichen]

It looks like it will be interesting but don’t know if it’s just an open event or starts at specific times. It looks interesting as it’s pve content

[north oyster]

I've walked the whole area, it is massive

[cerulean lichen]

Neat. Hopefully I’ll be able to try it. I also hope I don’t run into a player trying to kill me while doing the pve stuff😅

[marble crater]

any mostly pve event in SC will have a bit of pvp too but it's all g, no consequence to dying in Alpha

[cerulean lichen]

Good point. I’ll just need to buy a bunch of armor. I can get ammo for cheap and guns are all over bunkers on delivery missions

[ember grail]

Most players will probably be on your side for SoO

[marble crater]

yeah guns/armour is honestly dirt cheap

event seems like it will be a great experience

[cerulean lichen]

Ok so now it’s just a question if I can join the event at any time or if it will go in wave. Like every 12 hours it restarts and you start at the beginning of the siege. Or if it’s just constantly respawning enemies

[ember grail]

PTU tested it yesterday, you can probably find YouTube videos on the event

[cerulean lichen]

I’ll look.

[cerulean lichen]

Think the price of all cargo ships are going to increase with the refactor?

[frozen locust]

i have a freelancer rn but i want to upgrade to a tarus would it be worth it?

mind you im talking plegde ship stuff so

[worthy scroll]

I'd say yes, I much prefer the Connie's over the Freelancers. Plus you get more weapons, and more cargo.

[hardy mesa]

Bigger ship better visuals not looking through a mail slot fo 80 usd 66 scu to 174 scu 2 turrets vs 1 alot of missiles on the Taurus and good forward firepower

[misty coyote]

I'm looking up and seeing the Taurus too..... Really really tempting..... If hauling becomes worth it.... I'll ditch the prospector

[thin escarp]

wild

i would not ditch the prospector.

connies are relatively cheap in game

prospector is your money printer.

needs hardly any money down to keep it making you money. less risk than cargo

[misty coyote]

It's why I've not invested more right now...... But only so many mining runs until its bored town...

[frozen locust]

so with the freelancer i can do a whole lot of stuff can i sitll do a varity of shit with the tarus

[hardy mesa]

All the same and more

[north oyster]

I CCU’d from the MAX to the Taurus, larger class ship in all respect. I do go and buy a MAX in-game after each reset wipe because the MAX is way better for ROC work than the Connie

[slim relic]

see the one thing i can only dream for is a cargo variant of the corsair. i just can get over how ugly my Taurus is

[thin escarp]

@north oyster man i want this patch. GIVE ME MY MOLES

[scarlet sinew]

You take that back! I love the Connie look lol. Sure, she could use a nice gold pass to clean her up these days, but I still love the look overall.

[hardy mesa]

We have the pheonix for looks lol

[scarlet sinew]

I love my Taurus, though. Gets around the system fast, tons of pilot dps, tons of room for hauling, turret for a friend to have something to do when they ride along, built like a tank, etc.

She even has a free tire jack in the form of her cargo elevator on uneven ground!

[cerulean lichen]

The connie line seems like a good overall multi role ship

[hardy mesa]

Connie is your good introduction to large multi role do all ship

[vestal ravine]

Just found out refined goods do not have physical crates when "transporting" said goods to the TDD sales desk. Will these products be revised to show crates in the Cargo Refactor updates later? (Talking about the ships that have walk in cargo holds...)

[north oyster]

Agree 100%. It's been far too long since you and the LOST Boyz have been on the scene, way too quiet without the big runs. Agreed, 3.17.2 needs to drop real soon.

[thin escarp]

feeels

man

[north oyster]

right now, I think only Quantainium for the most part does not have a physicalization, but mix in some other ore from the refinery and you will see them

[vestal ravine]

I am talking about Copper and Taranite not the Quant.

[north oyster]

ok, interesting, most all commodities I haul have physical representation

[vestal ravine]

I am working a contract for Copper and Taranite mined with a Prospector refined in two different stations but when loading them onto the free fly MSR no cargo shown. But at the TDD sales desk they showed up. Is this normal or a glitch?

[north oyster]

normal, it's the same for Quan also. Interesting that other components may not show up but not surprising

As long as the TDD sees it and you get paid, all good

[vestal ravine]

Yes for sure! Can I also truck along a ROC in the hold?

[north oyster]

it will decrease the amount of cargo you can haul, I don't recall the amount though

not too much iirc

[runic crane]

Anyone wanna mining

[rugged axle]

I've had a 25% rate of cargo actually being physical this patch. When got quant physical once in the c2

[slim relic]

look the connie is an amazing ship great at everything but it’s build like an angry goose and is one hell of an ugly duckling. only reason the corsair is better is sex factor

[marble crater]

nice thing about the Corsair is that you get a Connie & Bucc loaner lol

[cerulean lichen]

Ok so since I was thinking of getting a proper cargo ship during IAE, think it would be good to get a cheaper ship like a hull A, cutlass black, or freelancer now, and ccu when IAE comes around?

[marble crater]

for a second ship I would only purchase LTI/10 Year Insurance ships then upgrade that

[cerulean lichen]

Ahh ok, so I should just wait then.

[marble crater]

yeah alot of the good deals will require new money anyway

[misty coyote]

Is LTI and insurance really that important? They have said that insurance costs will be a negligible value.

[glacial dagger]

1 less thing to have to worry abolut. Besides, who else can say they have at least 25 ships & vehicles all with LTI?

[misty coyote]

People with more money than sense?

[glacial dagger]

Nahh, that can't be right...

[marble crater]

if you're going to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars why wouldn't you get LTI/10 Year Insurance when it's so easy to do

if you're just looking at at a $45 dollar package then yeah it's no fuss

[polar pulsar]

Whats tthe point of huge cargoships?

[glacial dagger]

More money

[polar pulsar]

What do u transport in them?

[glacial dagger]

I have a cargo run that Ican do in my C2 that nets 100k-130k in profit

[polar pulsar]

How do u get cargo runs

[glacial dagger]

The C2 can also be used to transport groud behicles like tonks and ballista

[polar pulsar]

Are they missions

[glacial dagger]

Nope

[polar pulsar]

For jumptown?

[glacial dagger]

Use websites like SC Trade Tools, Gallog and UEX to find what commodity is good right now, find out where to buy it, go there, find out where to sell it, go there

[glacial dagger]

Yh, we used the C2 to bring stuff down for jt 😄

[polar pulsar]

Oooooooooooh thanks

And jumptown is pvp or pve

And are there teams

[glacial dagger]

Defo PvP

No AI spawn there

[polar pulsar]

Where is jt

[glacial dagger]

Then again, JT isn't runnign rn

JT actual on in the crusader system, however to avoid pre event site camping, CIG made two more locations, ravens roost and somewhere else in ArcCorp and Microtec systems

[polar pulsar]

Ok

[glacial dagger]

Anything else you would like to know about in terms of Cargo/mining?

[polar pulsar]

Yeah, mining

In the prospector’

Whats better, quant or had

[rain lava]

In prospector quant

In roc had

[polar pulsar]

Oh and do u store the stuff in boxes or ship storage

Like dou buy boxes and put the stuff in them?

Or in the ship storsge window

[glacial dagger]

Which boxes are we talking about here?

[polar pulsar]

Like u buy boxes in the cargo units of space stations

And u put stuff in them

Like how do u store the stuff u buy

[glacial dagger]

Oh right, boxes from the trade terminal right, like actual commodities. Diamond, Titanium, Laranite, that sort of stuff?

[polar pulsar]

Idk

Just stuff that u buy and sell

[glacial dagger]

So, you buy a commodity, say Laranite, and it gets loaded onto your ships cargo grid. You then fly your ship to where you need to sell, and then sell it

[polar pulsar]

Ok

[glacial dagger]

Cargo hauling from the outside is one of the most simplistic job roles you can have rn, but once you start getting into profit margins, stock levels/regen rates and potential losses, it quickly becomes a much bigger thing to deal with

If your still unsure, I reccomend either going and searching up some tutorials on YT or find a guide on the guide system

[polar pulsar]

Okay

Ty

[tight latch]

Why am I still having inventory problems with the mole

[marble crater]

are you in the PTU?

[tight latch]

Ptu?

[marble crater]

Test Server where 3.17.2 is being tested. Mole is fixed there

currently broken in Live

[tight latch]

When does that go live

[marble crater]

some time after free fly

comes with full wipe except for Rep

[tight latch]

Money ships everything wipe except reputation

[marble crater]

!wipe

[wary tusk]

3.17.2 Patch will have a DATABASE WIPE

• Items (ships and vehicles included) and the Wallet (aUEC) will be wiped.
• Your current Reputation will remain.
• All account-attributed items (pledges, subscriber flair, rewards, etc.) will remain.
• There is no specific date when the patch is going LIVE (probably mid-late July).

Pro Tip: There is no 'best' ship.

[marble crater]

that patch has the Mole fix

[tight latch]

Ok thank you

[swift harness]

Hey so I have a Freelancer DUR and was just wondering what the fastest quantam drive could I get without sacrificing too much range?

[tight latch]

will the caterpillar every be on pledge

[rain lava]

Iae

Or I’m not sure but you can unlock pirate cat and buy it at any time

[glacial dagger]

To get the Pirate Catapillar you need to beat pirate swarm. Once you ahve done that, the priate cat will then become available to purchase on the store

[tight latch]

what about the regular

[glacial dagger]

The regular is only available during sales

[tight latch]

so if you beat the swarm will the pirate one be available in the pledge store

[north oyster]

Not yet, there isn't really a game loop for Trade and Cargo like there is for mining, bounty hunting and deliveries. But that should come to life by this time next year.

[north oyster]

The Crossfield is probably the best QT drive for that class ship. Just slightly slower than the X1 but way more fuel efficient. I use it in all my ships that size 2

[swift harness]

Ok, thanks! In the mean time I'd done some looking round and I bought a torrent, how does the crossfield compare to that?

[north oyster]

Have you discovered Erkul yet? It is maybe the best site on the web for ship info and outfitting your ship's components and weapons. It is a little overwhelming at first but once you learn to navigate it, it's excellent.
https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

You can run direct comparisons to the QT engines

[glacial dagger]

Can 100% praise Erkul, even if I jsut use it as a shopping list that can show me locations as well 😄

[north oyster]

Torrent isn't a bad unit but it's speed is on the slow side. The Crossfield is about 100K km/hr faster than the Torrent

But Torrent offers probably about twice the range on same amount of fuel

[swift harness]

Ok, I'll look into grabbing a crossfield and yep I used erkul to find the torrent, just still figuring the website out haha

[cobalt rivet]

Crossfield is dope, i put it on my cutty

[glacial dagger]

If your putting anythign less than an XL1 in an S2 quantum capable ship, your defo doing something wrong...

[fading escarp]

so you want to arrive fast, but pay a heavy price on fuel .. got it

what if I wanted to save on fuel for some reason ?

what if I wanted a longer distance ?

[glacial dagger]

Go faster = use more fuel

That's generally how it works

If you wanna go further on the same tank size, then yh, you will have to use a slower drive

[fading escarp]

so there's nothing wrong about picking a different S2 ?

this is one of the things I find absolutely brilliant in the design, the fact there isn't just 1 META. There's a considerations to be made. How much money do I have. Do I want a military, civilian, industrial solution, do I want to optimise speed, fuel, distance, time.

[glacial dagger]

Absolutly none, no. The only differences are slight different in dower drawn cool down time, fuel usage and time in travel

[fading escarp]

but you said "defo doing something wrong" ...

[glacial dagger]

Well, it's just any ship currently with an S2 Quantum drive has more than enough fuel to get anywhere in the current verse, meaning you can refuel anywhere

[marble crater]

yeah at the moment with only Stanton being in the game fuel efficiency isn't a big concern for the medium/large ships

[glacial dagger]

Or the banu Defender 😄

Only S1 quantum capable ship that can viably use the VK00

[north oyster]

There are some "new" stations way way far apart, so the new "max distance" in Stanton can now be over 74M Km from each other. When Pyro opens, the QT drives that sip fuel will be king of the hill. You'll probably need to go out to dinner while your ship takes the jump.

[onyx crow]

They're going to implement fuel 'scoops' like on Elite Dangerous, if you've ever played that one?

[north oyster]

There are fuel scoops now, but for Hydrogen not Quantum

[onyx crow]

ah

[north oyster]

MISC has some of the best in industry, on my MAX I never have to worry about Hydrogen consumption while I mine with the ROC

[onyx crow]

How or where do you scoop fuel?

in SC

[glacial dagger]

Go into space, go decoupled, throttle forwards, wait and profit 😄

[onyx crow]

Ah, ok, thanks

That's the purpose in the coupling ... any other purposes in it?

and does it matter the speed at which you throttle forward?

[onyx crow]

when scooping

[north oyster]

For me, while I'm mining with the ROC, I just turn the engines off but leave the ship running (using the " i " key). So the ship is restoring Hydrogen while I am out on the planet surface mining. Also, the scoop works while in Quantum travel for hydrogen retrieval. You can thrust up to max speed and like Iron said, decouple and just drift. It isn't fast nor massive intake, just a small amount depending upon the ship and the types of scoops.

[pastel flame]

It's so slow it's barely noticable, but it's there.

[onyx crow]

Does every ship have the scoop?

[pastel flame]

No, not all ships can still scoop hydro

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16517-The-Shipyard-Fuel-Mechanics

[harsh oasis]

Hi, so im trying out some ship mining. Are obsidian deposits worth mining?

[thin escarp]

are you in a rental

@harsh oasis

[harsh oasis]

yes

[north oyster]

Take a look at SC Trader Tools, you will see that Obsidian is Bexalite, Heph, Diamond, Beryl, etc. If you are new to Mining, it is great to train with

[harsh oasis]

thank you

[thin escarp]

rental your not gonna mine too much with

whats ya IGN i'll send you enough to buy a prospector.

@harsh oasis

[harsh oasis]

my IGN is Macna

thanks for the help guys, greatly appreciated

[thin escarp]

ight

sent

highly suggest checking out some of the guides pinned in this channel too.

[harsh oasis]

you, are an angel

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-nod-yes-robert-redford-beard-gif-10489927

[cyan mountain]

huh

do i need to warm up a rock deposit?

i cant find the spot

[north oyster]

are you in a ship or a ROC buggy?

[cyan mountain]

multitool lol

[scarlet sinew]

is there a list of current ships with scoops? I know Origin ones have their own special one, and I know my Taurus has them, but I'm interested to see what else has them out of curiosity.

[north oyster]

All mining has the same mechanic. You will scan the deposit, after you’ve ID the rock (you are looking for hadanite) you will begin to charge up the rock. The deposits will have colored veins on them.

[hazy stone]

do you still go through the kiosk in the mining store to buy stuff? Ive seen guides do it but my kiosks are all blank

[jagged valve]

Hey team. I'm running a HOSAK setup. any alternative tip to managing the mining intensity instead of using mouse wheel?

[rigid basalt]

how much do you guys bring in every day from mining?

[north oyster]

Kiosk are broken in this patch

[north oyster]

Roughly 240K to 275K aUEC per trip

[north oyster]

Does your setup have a slider?

[jagged valve]

sure, stick has a slider at the base. currently set to adjust cruise speed but I could remap if that would work better

[north oyster]

Claimed by patch notes. We shall see

• Fixed an issue causing ships to despawn when a player leaves after rejoining from a bed logout

[north oyster]

I would use it for laser power level. You might be able to use it for both

[jagged valve]

I read it as "fixed AN issue ..." probably multiple issues causing this to happen. 🙂

[rugged axle]

Slider is the best way to control laser. Gives you almost precise control on it

[onyx crow]

any chance you found this setting?

[jagged valve]

haven't looked yet, letting my dinner settle then I'll hope into the verse. browsing sticks at the moment. deciding if I really want to splurge or not.

i'm just not a fan of throttles ... I prefer the ease of AWSD for throttle and thrusters. lol.

For those with the X56, does the Mode switch affect all the toggles or just the 3 switches along the bottom?

[onyx crow]

I've not gotten into throttle yet either, just the hosak way

feels smoother with the wads

of course another stick would feel even smoother i bet 😉

[vestal ravine]

I need a new a new MH 1 lancet laser mining head. The ones on the wall at HUR L1 would not allow a purchase. Do I have to start flying around the stations to find one??? Hope you can help.

[mental aurora]

New Babbage - shubin interstellar or port olisar - dumpers depot have the mh1

[hazy stone]

just cracked a shard of an asteroid and it was completely in the green never red but it exploded

is there anything i can do or

[worthy scroll]

Probably lag or desync.

[bright peak]

Upgraded my starter nomad to a cutty black. I know they serve roughly the same purpose for mining but I just like flying the cutty better

[marble crater]

Congrats! Both are great ships but the Cutty is definitely an upgrade if you could only pick one

[crimson oak]

Does anyone know how far up you can grind delivery mission reputation? I just unlocked a new level but I'm still only getting 8k delivery missions and a 45k one in a bunker.

[marble crater]

45K deliveries are the highest I believe

[cerulean lichen]

When do you think the Hull A could be purchasable in game? 3.18?

[cobalt rivet]

Do bunkers or mine quantanium

[native marsh]

@cerulean lichen generally 3 point patches from when it's first released as flyable

[wise thunder]

did i imagine it or is there a way to ID the quality of asteroids or rocks to mine with the prospector scanning from a distance? by changing the FOV of scanning? or do you just have to cruise to each one and mining mode scan up close?

thought i saw a vid once but can't find it again

[marble crater]

you can currently only tell if the asteroid has quantainium but not the amount from a distance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[true thunder]

Can someone teach me how to cargo haul?

[real axle]

I use sc-trade.tools to make a basic trade route. Put in filters for what commodities you want to trade, and in the general area you want to travel between

[true thunder]

Ok thanks

[real axle]

A nice easy one is going to the moon Arial at Hurston. Go to the outposts HDMS-Bezdek or HDMS-Lathan, buy as much Laranite that’s available and fill the remaining space with Titanium

Then sell at the Central Business District at Loreville

Short and sweet route

[true thunder]

Thanks. I'll try it

[marble crater]

Jack Axton did a video covering the basics. techniques still apply but some of the details have changed (like you can now trade scrap). Still a great vid to cover the basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM&t=1099s

use SC Tools or Gallog to get more up to date details on current trade prices etc

[cobalt rivet]

are they changing anything in the PTU about mining

as far as rock resistance or mining modules

[molten wolf]

so i have refined ore. ready for transport. how do?

[marble crater]

you need a cargo ship stored at the Refinery to pick up the ore. you can't split an order so if you have 26 scu of refined ore, you need a ship stored with at least 26scu cargo space

[molten wolf]

i have the mercury atm

but more specifically where does it go

[marble crater]

should see an option at the refinery terminal to transfer the ore, small drop down list at the bottom will show the available ships stored

or do you mean where to sell it?

[molten wolf]

this

[marble crater]

any Trade terminal (TDD) at a major city. Area 18 at ArcCorp is the most popular spot

[molten wolf]

does it matter where for price?

[marble crater]

nope

[molten wolf]

oh. thats much easier

so final question. the yield, for example is 2294csu do i need the hercules for that?

oh nvm

[molten wolf]

ok i lied. i have another question lol. do i refine the other materials besides quantium? or do i waste them

[fading escarp]

all of it comes through

tho Inert is just that inert and is just rock which doesn't have a specific function or purpose

so, at various levels of mining you'd select this is my primary and this is my secondary and you go this one contains my primary so I pick this one first.

each person has a different style. He might also take the secondary in, cos it has a little bit of the primary, or he might fully excl cos it doesn't have enough primary.

ofcos you are cracking a boulder hoping that each subpart excl anything but the primary and you always end up with 100% of the primary. World just doesn't work like that.

[molten wolf]

i was meaning more of during the refining process. i can toggle which parts to refine.

so i was wondering if i refine things like quartz aluminum or do i waste it and just refine the quantium

[rugged axle]

I typically do. It's just extra cash at the end of it. Can typically pay for refining cost off the "extra"

[misty coyote]

I had this argument with a mate of mine...

He said "You're throwing away free money by not processing it"

For me it's not about the extra money I might waste, it's the time.

It came into focus when I had a work order up in 23 hours, my last haul had Quant and Quartz. The refine time for both was 1 day 7 hours, or 22 hours without the Quartz. No braining, dump the quarts and log in a day later to haul both.

What have I lost? About 1k's worth of Quartz? What have I gained? 8 hours of waiting around time

[molten wolf]

gotcha. thats what i waqs figuering

[crimson oak]

i dont bother with the other crap its worth nothing compared to quant and taking up valuable space

[misty coyote]

I've often wondered about just refining the things you want, if you're quant mining, and pick up other stuff. Just dump it, get more runs done, and only haul the good stuff

[crimson oak]

so how much cargo space you have in the ship you'll be using to transport the finished ore ya might want to take into consideration

[misty coyote]

I dont' think I'd haul more than a Freelancer's worth at 1 time

[crimson oak]

although i usually move my refined quant in a C2 so ive usually more space than i need to use

[misty coyote]

Any more, and you're risking a pricy crash, less isn't worth it

Though, I'm buying a RAFT as soon as I can...

[crimson oak]

MSR is pretty decent for transporting a few loads of quant at a time, quite fast and agile too

its got about 96? SCU i think

Freelancer MAX in comparison is like moving a whale

[misty coyote]

Same as the RAFT, but I've fallen in love with that

[crimson oak]

yeah i like the RAFT

i usually just aim for a C2 tho

[misty coyote]

MSR is fine, just costs alot

I don't like the Hercules line...

jsut...At all

[crimson oak]

i love all crusader ships, theyre kinda my fetish

[misty coyote]

Gotta love the ship you're in...

[crimson oak]

im sure theres a better word than fetish but that came to mind

[misty coyote]

I like big dumb looking ships that are boxes welded to an engine

[crimson oak]

ah yeah that explains it

[misty coyote]

Crusaders are all sleek and shiney

[crimson oak]

drake and misc have ya covered

[misty coyote]

Same with Origin

And Argo

Industrial work horses

[crimson oak]

yeah im not a fan of origin either

they're a bit too shiny and sleek

crusader has a nice balance between form and function

[misty coyote]

I've been looking for a starter ship for crashing into stations, and so far the Reliant have my attention.

[crimson oak]

ive been using the nomad as a taxi ship

[misty coyote]

Though, I think it's going to be the C8X Expedition...I just can't not have one of those

Easily the most useful ship I've flown.

[crimson oak]

defender is pretty decent too, its got absurd quantanium storage, you could cross the system a few times on a class A military drive without stopping to refuel

[misty coyote]

The nomad is just too expensive for taxi service...Though I totally concur on that....Really miss my Nomad

[crimson oak]

yeah the C8X is also amazing

[misty coyote]

If the Nomad wasn't almost 1 mil...

Though it has ROC potential, so I can see why it's more expensive

[glacial dagger]

Best taxi service is 400i

[misty coyote]

Oh?

AH...Origin....

Forget that...Too clean

[crimson oak]

thats too big an sluggish for a taxi, claim time too long, its gotta be instant for a taxi ship

[glacial dagger]

Your pickup can go in the x1 bay so they still ahve gravity and xygen, but cant run amok inside your ship 😄

[crimson oak]

decent quantanium storage, instant claim time, some decent cargo space/internal inventory space, fast, small and agile. That's my requirements for a good taxi ship.

[glacial dagger]

Avenger titan is pretty good then

[misty coyote]

I have a Tana this wipe for all of these things, but I'm kinda falling out of love with it....

[glacial dagger]

Bed, small cargo bay

[crimson oak]

yeah titan can do the job alright

i tried to like the tana but just couldnt

[glacial dagger]

Reliant Kore is pretty fun

[crimson oak]

i really want to like them

[misty coyote]

The Tana I have has 6 Balistic Cannon and 20 Rattler 2s, using it as a gun boat

[glacial dagger]

Plus, while your in flight mode, they cant get into the cockpit or leafe the seat when in the co-pilot seat

[misty coyote]

Nope...That's what's bothering me...

Plus landing it is funky

I have rolled forwards loads

A smooth landing is difficult to attain

What I'm after is.

A space taxi
and
A bounty boat - Single seater or otherwise - No internals required

[glacial dagger]

Really? My Kore always lands jsut fine

[misty coyote]

I come in at a 45 degree angle, usually back wheels first.

[glacial dagger]

Sounds liek the Defender might jsut be your best bet then. They get the fancy taxi 😄

[misty coyote]

I do like the look of the Defender

[glacial dagger]

This is why you roll then

[misty coyote]

I do with all ships...Back first, nose down...

So yes, I could adjust my landings...But that's just one thing.....

[glacial dagger]

alternativly, try doing the same thing, but pull a 180 so your facing the way you came and come down done first. That way, it's your back landing gear that land after your first and still looks pretty dam cool at the same time 😄

[misty coyote]

I did think that...reverse and nose down and slap that ass....

[glacial dagger]

Rapid helicopter ladings

[misty coyote]

How long is the defender's claim time?

[glacial dagger]

Works very well with the Hurcs

When expidited is like 2 mins?

Really not long at all

[misty coyote]

Hmm...Not quite instant...

[glacial dagger]

Enough time to grab a new undersuit and armour, maybe some weapons an food and drinkl

[rigid basalt]

Finally making some space bucks mining quant

[glacial dagger]

Nope, but pretty dam close

[misty coyote]

What else fits that category?

The defender is very intersting

[glacial dagger]

Looking good there bud 😄

[misty coyote]

And what fits the Fighter? Been looking at a Gladius, Hornet or a Hurricane for mates play

[glacial dagger]

Titan is probably your best bet then. Instant claim time and comes with a bed and all

[glacial dagger]

For a single seater, I love my bucc 😄

1xS4, 2xS3 and 2xS1 when fixed

[misty coyote]

Huh.....

That's alot of firing....

Well.... If your equip all Las Repeaters, it's not per recharge...

[rugged axle]

For duo play, hurricane 100%
For single, prefer gladius over pretty much everything.

Only downside is vhrt and ert you need to kinda drag it out. Pull one at a time, take him out, then go pull another.

Me and a buddy were running erts last night in my cane with ease. Still need to be a good pilot against the hammerhead(even the hurricanes shields get shredded if you let them hit you). But the damage is top notch. It's super agile for a heavy fighter.

Just overall a fun ship to fly. If you wanna try one out, lemme know and I'll let you fly mine

[misty coyote]

I like the look of the Gladius... I'd like smaller amounts of bigger weapons..

[rugged axle]

Even with only the 3x size 3s. Most ships your gonna encounter will only be 3-4 full caps worth.

[misty coyote]

I tend towards ballistic cannons... Gatling runs out on my too fast... Cannons feel like I can run a few before rearming.

[rugged axle]

Obviously the "best" ships for erts are the eclipse and the tali. Which is how I make my money. But it's not very satisfying lol.

Hurricane with a mate makes you feel like you actually earned it. And much more fun for me

I can't buy into cannons. Basically just stick with laser repeaters on everything.

We did do a 3 ship flight of dragonflys last night up to mrt bounties lol.

[misty coyote]

Part of me hates that it's either Las or go home..... Will make ballistic cannons work for me... Even if I lose 40% efficiency

[rugged axle]

Cannons just seem weird that my pip is literally off the screen 90% of the time

[misty coyote]

I've tried all sort of guns... I've flown away with more than 3/4 ammo left after a successful bounty with them.

B Reps, I've just flown away dry.... Both Las I usually blow up....

Oops.... Talking combat in cargo here.... Apologies

[pseudo echo]

What about ship shotguns?

[misty coyote]

I've not tried them yet...

[pseudo echo]

Think I'm gonna try them on my 325a

[fallen atlas]

Lasers are the only thing you should run right now. The Ballistics don't typically have enough ammo for the amount of damage they do.

[pseudo echo]

The scatterguns (Pyroburst) aren't ballistics... Infinite shotgun blasts

[fallen atlas]

Scatterguns aren't good either tbh. Unless you're really stuck to someone.

[molten wolf]

is there a way i can put my refinement yield into a friends cargo ship?

[pseudo echo]

Yup, Gotta stay close to target... Run circles around larger ships

[marble crater]

Has to be a ship you own or are renting to load cargo

[molten wolf]

thats what i figured. thankl you

[marble crater]

Kinda sucks, would be great if you could load goods into other ships

[north oyster]

I thought I had wandered into the #flight-combat-racing room for a moment

[north oyster]

Great Job!! Now wait until you get two commas in the delivery payoff.

[rigid basalt]

oooooof can't wait

[thin escarp]

@north oyster man feels good

made the org spotlight

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-sad-smile-gif-14640302

a little bit into 3.17.2 we will be posting another guide for mining!

love yall

[serene quest]

there were changes to mining?

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[serene quest]

LOL

it's insane the number of crashes in PTU rn

[north oyster]

with the latest patch? Yesterday was brutal

[cerulean lichen]

How is 17.2 looking for trading and mining anyways?

[north oyster]

well, currently the last couple of builds have been soulcrushing adventures. CTD and 30K rule the day

Mining isn't massively changed, some small tweaks in the ping management. I think it will affect surface miners more than Halo miners.

[scenic parrot]

Losers.

(This message brought to you by the Bounty Hunter's Guild)

[north oyster]

LOL, wrong channel 🙂

[scenic parrot]

No, you are wrong for mining and running cargo, I shall steal it

[north oyster]

I don't even carry a gun and you will never find me ❤️

But the day of the Pirate is coming, I don't argue that

Physicalized cargo from the Cargo Refactor will change the game for all players

Soon(tm)

[cerulean lichen]

Definitely picking up a raft for the refactor. Haven’t had to deal with pirates but I’d rather drop a container then loose my whole cargo haul

Be curious to see if there more pirates once the refactor is live

[north oyster]

it'll be fun, but at that time there will be more than just Stanton system. I'm thinking two will come online pretty fast, Pyro and Nyx systems will be online

[cerulean lichen]

Mining and trading is going to be interesting with pyro. From what I read it’s basically a abandoned system, so anything mined would need to be flown back to Stanton, and nothing to trade. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but can’t find much on pyro to begin with

[north oyster]

I think the "newness" of Pyro will be the thing plus the outpost like they demo'd at CitizenCon. I'll probably scout a good bit but will more than likely keep building my wealth in Stanton. Once big trade routes open with reputation then I'll pull out the Hull C and go fly'n

When Levski opens back up, I'll try working out of there for awhile also

[cerulean lichen]

Yah. I love busy habitable systems in elite dangerous so I’ll probably stick in Stanton. I’ll still visit pyro and do missions but Stanton feels like home

[north oyster]

the real time QT travel may be a big surprise for many going to Pyro. Could see the Starfarer being the hero of the day a good bit

[cerulean lichen]

Sorta why I also picked up a tali base. It’s got great range and efficiency to make a pyro trip and could act like a mini base with modules. Could be a armored transport in pyro😅

[north oyster]

I went the route of the Liberator ... just hoping it will grow just a little bit like the Orion, LOL

Transport my Prospector, Vulture and another ship. Not thinking the Expanse will fit on her currently so hoping a size increase if not 🙂

If that doesn't work I might have to jump to the Kraken as a carrier

[cerulean lichen]

Those big ships are so cool but it seems they need a crew to be usable. Maybe it’s my personal taste but love ships that can be managed solo

[thin escarp]

@scenic parrot how many you got? cause i take offense to people going after miners.

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-you-i-will-fuck-you-fuck-john-cena-rage-gif-5860706

LOL

[low latch]

I can man the basics on my carrack by myself, it's been pretty easy to find crew between my org and people in public chat

[north oyster]

I'm a solo player. Except for the Kraken, all the other ships can be done solo. The Kraken as just a carrier shouldn't require more than a pilot. It's like I'm trying to man the guns or ships on her. The Liberator is large ship too but doesn't need a large crew to man her.

[dapper mesa]

I personally don't refine anything but quantanium or whatever target ore I'm going for because then that just takes up room in your hauler and hardly brings any income

[molten wolf]

thank you

[scenic parrot]

oh daddy PLEASE FINALLY

[hollow sedge]

Hey guys I found today going through my ships I have a Connie Taurus with a bunch of agricultural supplies don’t ask why I have idek haha any ideas which places are accepting it atm

[sacred raptor]

you should be able to check on sc-trade.tools

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Agricultural Supplies