industrial-professions

[tame shore]

But then the question is should I actually buy a cutty once I have the money

[warm sapphire]

i feel like if the pivot is to just mine quantanium, i have a hard time not just renting the cutlass vs buying one

[placid meteor]

I’m not and I have the money now I’m saving up for a C2 star lifter then imma buy that

[tame shore]

Yea now I'm trying to think what else I could do with a cutty. Might be better with a freelancer

[warm sapphire]

cutlass red has a medbay? maybe its worth getting the variant?

[tame shore]

The red has way less cargo room

12 vs 46

[warm sapphire]

yeah, but would you want to haul with it? Arent there better light freighters for waaay less money?

[tame shore]

The black has the most storage for the least cost that I have seen

The star runner would be nice but it's 5 mil

The black is 1.3 mil

The nomad is cheaper but only 26 vs 46 for the black

[worn dock]

Oh, you can't rent the Hull A. It hauls 64, which is two Prospector runs, and sells for real-life cash a little cheaper than the Cutty Black, but has nowhere NEAR the utility of the Cutty

wouldn't buy it for cash just to run refined ore

[tame shore]

Anyone use a terrapin?

[worn dock]

but it would rent a little cheaper and cost a little less

[tame shore]

Gotcha. Yea I'm not sure what else one can do with a black

It looks ok for combat missions?

[rugged axle]

Cutty black is a good all around ship. You can run bounties, cargo, delivery, bunker missions.

[tame shore]

Sounds like the titan but with more of everything

[rugged axle]

I wouldn't buy one though....save up for a Connie. It's basically a cutty black on steroids

And can literally do every path in game with great success

[tame shore]

The constellation is about triple the black so not to bad

[sage dragon]

I'd suggest flying a connie first before getting one yourself, it's... slow, and heavy, not everyone's cup of tea

[tame shore]

Thanks for the heads up. All I know right now is the titan has way better handling than the prospector

Is the black similar in that regard to the titan?

[sage dragon]

cutties are heavier than the titan yea, but the cutty still feels kinda good to fly. I'd suggest trying out a cutty then too

You could ask here or ingame, alot off people are happy to show off their ships lol

[tame shore]

True never thought of asking to check out some in game with someone

Did get a ride once back to my titan from someone

[warm sapphire]

ok, relogged on EU, went to Port Olisar, couldnt claim my cutlass, lets try on AUS now...

it worked!!!

[tame shore]

Nice!

So you logged from your normal region EU then AUS then back to EU and its good

[warm sapphire]

lol nope, started on US then to EU then finally to AUS and it worked

[worn dock]

Cutty is not aerodynamic like the Titan, so takes a little more attention in atmosphere. It's quick, has 4 gun + two in a turret, and four missile racks. The cargo area has a big rear ramp and two side doors, but the side doors are too high to climb into. Still, it's super easy to just tractor stuff in and out the sides

[sage dragon]

(hate to be that guy but.. 6 missile racks xd)

[worn dock]

oh, I miscounted, and was too lazy to double check!

I'm running 48 size 1 EM missiles, so guessed from that

[sage dragon]

yea me too, 6 racks, 8 x S1

[worn dock]

I really need to take a break from ROC mining and learn to shoot in space

[ancient zodiac]

need a break from mining period lol

[tame shore]

Next time I mine it should be interesting as I got some modules

I suspect I'll explode

I did land a good run today thought of about 99% quant

Still need to get the new gun gladiator all mapped

[worn dock]

Bought my Prospector with aUEC last night, got the Lancet head and three Vaux C3 installed, but have been battling cough and sore throat all day.

Rarther not risk blowing up on my first run because I wasn't focused

[tame shore]

Thats no fun

I'll have to look up the C3 dont know anything about them

I just picked up a surge

[worn dock]

Also, recovering from ROC mining until 3 am Friday and Sat to buy it

[tame shore]

And a couple other I cant remember the name of

[ember totem]

Is the vaux c3 better than running surge and Brandt? I would get a stampede but can’t find anywhere to buy it.

[worn dock]

RedMonsterSC recommends three tier 3 Vaux to help with the green window when starting out

[ember totem]

Ah okay

I got pretty used to that quick

[worn dock]

until I get used to the volatility in mining quant, figured I'd go that route and not try to take on giant rocks at first

[tame shore]

The brandt is what I got

Have to get it on microtech

Along with the surge and one othe expendable

[ember totem]

Is that the stampede?

[tame shore]

No didnt do a stampede right now

Keep a big quant rock in the green is hard enough without it going faster

[worn dock]

I'll probably use some active modules once I have enough in the bank to recover from a ship loss

[ember totem]

Ah okay. No worries. Was trying to get one to try but all the refinery terminals are dead. 😂

[worn dock]

yeah have to use the wiki to find them in the cities

[tame shore]

@ember totem microtech should have the stampede

[ember totem]

Any tips on finding quick rocks? Tried belt 5 and lyria - Lyria is my best luck.

[tame shore]

They have like every module

[ember totem]

Ah cool might look tomorrow

[tame shore]

I pulled a good rock out of belt 5 today then nothing on the 2md run

2nd

Gave up and went to lyria

[ember totem]

Yeah I read some people are getting more luck in belt 4 but not tried it yet

[ancient zodiac]

jeez in game chat broke today?

[worn dock]

If it's a day that ends in Y, yes

[blissful rain]

Friends list broken too as well all the refinery kiosk

[ancient zodiac]

refinery kiosks have been since 3.17 i think

[ancient zodiac]

i was able to fix friends list but you cant talk to them anyway with chat being broke lol

[blissful rain]

We are in 3.17 technically lol

And what's funny is that was when they introduced the mining gadgets which you can't even buy in the refinery....

[ancient zodiac]

yea i meant just since the update

[blissful rain]

Yea

[fading nebula]

can i not sell unrefined ores

[vivid sorrel]

You can, at the ore-terminal to the left of the refinery terminal

[fading nebula]

does it have to be at specific locations

a website says i only can at major cities

[vivid sorrel]

Refined ore you sell at major cities

But UNrefined ore is at ore terminal

[fading nebula]

it wouldnt let me see my ship as a location

does it need to be stored

[vivid sorrel]

I don't know if it needs to, but i always store it

[fading nebula]

it let me see my ship as a location in the refinery, but not in the ore terminal

i cant afford to refine it is the issue

[vivid sorrel]

It could have been a bug, or... hmm. What type of ore is it? If you can't recall hit m when you're in the ship for mining mode to see it

[fading nebula]

aluminium and titanium

and inert materials but i dont think that matters

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah they should work to sell at the ore terminal...i can't say why it didn't except probably a bug

I'd try again, and store the ship when you try

[fading nebula]

i mean i want to be near lorville anyways for better planets so ill go try it there

[vivid sorrel]

Any place with a refinery deck

[serene crystal]

where can i buy stampede module?

[north oyster]

finder.cstone.space @serene crystal

Funny how the ghost of Laranite still survives in the 'verse

[serene crystal]

thanks

[serene quest]

Outside of Q rocks, have you noticed if E,M, or P rocks deliver higher rates of Bexa

I haven't ever seen Taranite, I honestly think they scrubbed it from the game lol

[scarlet rover]

https://sc-trade.tools/deposits

[serene quest]

dope!

ty

[warm sapphire]

anyone ever mine and have the ROC laser not scan the node even though you confirmed it was a ndoe with a ship scan?

Happened with two different clusters of what looked like hadanite on Daymar

[scarlet rover]

sometimes you need to withdraw the arm and restart the ROC to reset it

[warm sapphire]

yeah, i tried that, it didnt seem to work

been having so many issues today i did want to attempt a relog again and end up not on planet and at the mercy claiming a ship

[worn dock]

the other day on Aberdeen, I had the power button on the ROC lit yellow. You have to retract the mining arm and shut the ROC completely down for a couple minutes

I had been running to two different clusters 3000m apart instead of loading the ROC back into my ship for the hop

[serene quest]

Idk, I think they really have to fix mining

[worn dock]

once you power back up and that light on the left rollbar strut is green, you're good to go

[fleet terrace]

whats wrong with it?

[serene quest]

99% of all ore types are irrelevant outside of ROC mining

[worn dock]

when you're on a severely hot planet and have the stock cooler, the ROC can overheat if you use it constantly

[serene quest]

the % of individual types per rock are far too disparate as are the prices

there should be a reason to farm something other than Quant and Hadanite

[worn dock]

ROC is only good for the 3 types of gems. the "real" mining is done with ships

check this out

https://www.youtube.com/c/RedMonsterSC

[serene quest]

and I know that price shifts will occur with the inclusion of Quanta but I don't feel like those fluctuations will be enough to warrant farming say copper or beryl

[worn dock]

yeah something like copper or aluminum will probably not be all that important until manufacturing comes in (if it does)

[dapper mesa]

That feeling when you are taxiing into station with a full load of quant and blow up for no apparent reason

With like 9 minutes on timer

After being SO proud of yourself for cracking an 8200 rock solo

[worn dock]

man

[dapper mesa]

I have no idea what the heck happened lol

No asteroids on the way into the station, was inside the armistice zone, plenty of time on timer

[worn dock]

oh, newbie question: If I hit left-alt + J to jettison my load does it float in space, or disappear?

[dapper mesa]

disappears

Can only jettison when the warning light is flashing

[worn dock]

ah okay. Thought maybe this was something the pirates force you to do or something

Hope I never find out

[dapper mesa]

That will be a thing soon, they're working on making cargo occupy physical space and be able to be manipulayed

[worn dock]

or that will go for ore, too?

thought it was only going to be for finished products

[dapper mesa]

I don't know about ore

[dreamy river]

There’s a bug where sometimes even the slightest bit of a rough landing can throw the timer off. Maybe this?

[dapper mesa]

No I was flying towards the station lol, utterly confused

Only thing I can think of, is there's an obscure bug where if mining tool is deployed when timer reaches halfway point, it goes from initiating phase 1 alarm to critical instantly

[fervent wasp]

OMG what do we have to do to get the mining terminals working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is so frustrating.. how can something that worked 2 years ago be absolutely destroyed right now??? HOW?!?!?!?!?

[dapper mesa]

Lol

Fix is in test universe currently, should be deployed with next patch

In the meantime, shubin interstellar in new babbage is miner shopping destination lol

[fervent wasp]

Cool I guess in the emantime we all just have to suffer until they decide whenever to release that.... I don't mean shopping.. I eman trading in raw resources.. I have een to three stations now.. I can not sell my RAW minerals.. I can make tickets and work orders but I need the cash NOW

[muted fox]

Lmao

[serene crystal]

whats the fastest quantum drive i can put on an andromeda?

[vivid sorrel]

!erkul

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[gentle brook]

I work out of arc l1 and I can sell raw materials there .

Fastest is the xl1

[fervent wasp]

Welp feel special that is my home base and I have not been able to sell ANYTHING there in2 days..

[gentle brook]

Dang.

[fervent wasp]

It worked 2 days ago and now.. it never recognizes my ship..

[gentle brook]

But the refinery does?

[fervent wasp]

yup I can make work orders.. I have 12 done right now.. I'm trying to sell the ore I have so then I can rent a hauler to then take in the 12 that are done lol.. Now I'm at Hurl 2.. I was at Hurl 3 and everyone I go to none of them recognize my inventory and I've been on multiple servers..

[gentle brook]

Put it in the refinery. What's the hauler rent fee?

[thin escarp]

@serene crystal get the x01

[vivid sorrel]

Do other missions until you get enough for hauler then would be my reccomendation

[thin escarp]

@fervent wasp you should rent a connie its like 72k a day or something

[vivid sorrel]

Bounties, bunkers, or just plain old hauling crates

[thin escarp]

my guess is patch within 2 weeks so get your orders situated sooner than later

[gentle brook]

I'll foot the hauler fee I don't mind

[thin escarp]

3.17.2 will wipe refineries

[vivid sorrel]

Freelancer might be easier, it's 66SCU for 34k'ish

[gentle brook]

Is your sc name the same?

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah but that's not happening until some time...it's not on PTU yet AFAIIK, only evocattii

[fervent wasp]

thats what I want to rent.. lol.. but I can't because I only have 9k to my name and the ore sales machines just don't want to work for me lol..

[gentle brook]

@fervent wasp is your sc name the same

I'm just gonna assume it is😂

[serene crystal]

over the crossfield you think?

[gentle brook]

^xL-1 from port tresslar

For the Connie series, that's the fastest. Or get a Yeager if you wanna be a little more fuel efficient

[thin escarp]

@serene crystal yeah the fuel efficiency ain't worth it for me. I wanna get there and get down

[fleet terrace]

the charge level is just not going up i finally find a juicer node anyone know what im doing wrong?

[dapper mesa]

Arc L1 works for selling raw ore

[young wren]

What's the mass?

[fleet terrace]

6k

[young wren]

Probably gotta surge it then

[fleet terrace]

rip my moduals are gone

and aint goin to bitch ass loreville cause arc l1 broken still

[dapper mesa]

Too big for base lancet only, gotta have modules. Surge, stampede, optimum are best 3 for lancet build and cracking bigger rocks.

[gentle brook]

ill sell u modules i have a bunch at arc l1

[lime jackal]

u can get a 6k with lancet and 3x Vaux-C3 but gotta be real close to the rock

[gentle brook]

you want help cracking it?

[fleet terrace]

i ditched it just gonna go get some more modules

didnt realise you lose them when you claim the ship kinda dumb tbh

[gentle brook]

yeah i buy a ton at a time and ship em alll back to arc l1

[fleet terrace]

prob a smart idea

what 3 do you run?

im new to mining im a roc miner by heart but am giving prospector mining a shot lol

[gentle brook]

Surge, stampede, optimum

quant mining is better with 2+ppl

[fleet terrace]

still possible solo tho right just more tedious

[gentle brook]

bigger rocks are usually more pure. enough for 2 ppl to both get a full load.

two lasers on the same rock also doubles the green zone size

[fleet terrace]

damn thats huge

[gentle brook]

want to party up?

[fleet terrace]

sure lemme go get like 10 of each modules and store em

[serene crystal]

ok grabbing

[mental aurora]

Yup with those 3 you can break any rock solo. Been doing that for a bit now. It's definitely a lot safer/easier with a group though. I prefer solo coz then you don't have to find enough to fill 2+ ships

[north oyster]

I had the wonderful vanishing ore bug hit me while mining today. I saw about 28 SCU of Quan just vanish while I was finishing up an asteroid. I mean suck the ship empty. I flew to the refinery and it wouldn't even show the ship in the refinery console. Love it when about 240,000 aUEC just evaporates into empty space

[dapper mesa]

Had the exact same thing, and the inert materials bug like 3 times in a row

[north oyster]

I'm wondering about clearing out the refinery jobs and shutting down until 3.17.2 drops. Just to big of a dumpster fire to keep fighting it

[stone tinsel]

@north oyster Or risk it, last time I had 10 orders in and teh patch doubled them

I went on a bit of a spending spree

I'm gonna leave at least 2 in and just roll the dice

[rigid basalt]

how much can you make in a single run with roc mining and a cutty black

[ember grail]

240k

[rigid basalt]

okay ty

saving up to get a prospector

[stone tinsel]

If there is anyone in here that needs to borrow anything feel free to hit me up. I have a roc, prospector, cutty, connie, or mole (when they fix it) that I'm happy to lend out if I'm not using

[robust berry]

where can i sell E'tam? thats not hurston disposal?

[ember grail]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[robust berry]

couldnot find a place on that

[ember grail]

?

I found it just fine

[robust berry]

o

[robust berry]

how do u not have to put the size of cargo?

[ember grail]

Click commodities

[robust berry]

ah thx mate

[rigid basalt]

any tips for hadanite roc mining

[ember grail]

This video helped me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTmqTYzvTYs

[vale oracle]

im here at area 18 trying to sell my quantainium but for some reason nothing appears, am i suppose to sell it here or is it bugged?

[rigid basalt]

ill take it

[verbal cargo]

looks like you are at an Admin terminal. Try the TDD terminals

[vale oracle]

yep i did and i manage to sell it thx!

[hollow sedge]

is running titanium to arc corp still a good strat for uec?

[ember grail]

Trading in general is not a reliable way to get aUEC right now

[errant wraith]

want to come along? I can show you the way

[lyric nest]

Speak for yourself 😂

[silk escarp]

for some reason, I cannot see how much ore cargo i have in the Argo Mole. I mined some minerals. Now, when I go to sell them in HUR L1, I can't even select my ship. I tried taking off backpack too b/c I read that can be a problem (wearing a backpack while trying to sell ore)

[ember grail]

The Mole is currently bugged and has no inventory space

[silk escarp]

oooohhhh, so mining ore just sends ore to nowhere

[ember grail]

correct

[errant wraith]

rip

[silk escarp]

aww man, what a bummer! I love the Argo MOle

it was working just fine a year ago

[ember grail]

Hopefully a fix will come in 3.17.2, it's a known issue

[silk escarp]

yeah, I hope so too. I really like the Mole

[silver stirrup]

i havent been able to play SC in quite a while, is mining in the prospect worth it? i own one but my pc really doesnt handle SC well even though i meet the required specs :/

[ember grail]

Yes, Prospector is the go-to for mining

[silver stirrup]

awesome, if i can get the game to stop lagging and have decent frames thats what imma be doing prolly.

at least for a bit.

[ember grail]

Have you looked at the !fpsgain guide yet?

[wary tusk]

Guides to Slightly Better Performance

• [Post Install Guide](#sim-and-pc-hardware message) • [Gain More FPS Guide](#📚┃help-faq message) • [Set Pagefile](#📚┃help-faq message) •

[silver stirrup]

i havent, just got to the server. ill look at it now though. ive tried almost everything i could think of so maybe thisll work lol

i do probably need more ram tho. only have 16GB for rn. and im SURE thats one issue

[ember grail]

Yes that's definitely at least part of it. Have you set up a !pagefile?

[wary tusk]

Increase your Pagefile size

Do this if your game keeps crashing after waking up / every 10 mins.

[silver stirrup]

no looking into all that now.

[ember grail]

Feel free to ask in #helpdesk if anything isn't clear!

[silver stirrup]

roger that thank you 🙂

coming from 2500+ hours of elite dangerous, i have high hopes for SC honestly

[ember grail]

It's a great game once you get past the bugs and performance issues

[deep vector]

When you cope with bugs and performance issues

[ember grail]

Yeah I should say, if you get past the bugs and performance issues lol

[marble crater]

you never get past the bugs, you just learn to play with them lol

[silver stirrup]

yea lol

[full mantle]

haha spot on... and the contrast / brightness of your monitor.. angles of your direction

[silver stirrup]

ive played quite a bit but never got into it to heavily because of fps issues and lag. but im hoping these things will fix it. i love the idea of mining and living in my ship

does logging out in ship work or no?

if im landed on a planet no where near a location

[full mantle]

Lag is awesome sauce when your at that final leg of your first Quant cut... mmmm so much fun

[marble crater]

welcome to SC though, I was also a long time ED player as well but the SC bugfest can be a shock to the system until you figure stuff out

[full mantle]

yea loved the ice mining in ED - their sound alignment there was epic

[ember grail]

Currently it is not advised

[silver stirrup]

dang. and YEA, popping rocks and it rocking your ship or breaking shields and flickering the lights. so good.

i have bass boost headphones so it was SO good

surround sound too

[marble crater]

ED core mining was quite well done. I prefer the setup in SC though as you have to follow through from mining, refining & selling. A more comprehensive process

[silver stirrup]

yea

[marble crater]

each step riddled with bugs though lmao

[silver stirrup]

im in love with the idea, but ive never been able to get through it without crashing

😛

[marble crater]

if you're going to try bed logging make sure you're out in space & not on a planet/moon. Have pretty much spawned inside the planet surface most times

[silver stirrup]

roger that lol. i just want it to work, i love the idea of only docking when i need fuel or to sell

i mostly never land in elite because i can synth ammo and everything else i need. but still,

[merry void]

found my first piece of quantanium

[dull crater]

Whats the best cargo to haul....seems like agricium doesnt pay out

SCraps is chump change

and how often does the shops reset. (thanks in advance to any responses)

[ember grail]

I wouldn't say there's any one best commodity since robust trade routes usually use multiple commodities to make it worth it. This video is a good option for a route
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8wO9iO3E7E

[ember grail]

Nominal refresh rate is once per minute, though in my experience it's more like just under once per two minutes. The actual refresh rate is slightly off because of whatever's going on server-side

[dull crater]

Thank you

[fading nebula]

what should i do if i get a service error at the ore terminal

i swapped servers a few times

[ember grail]

Try standing far back from the terminals, that usually reduces the amount of errors you get

[fading nebula]

thats an interesting fix, ill give it a go

am i meant to have 5k/3k

[fading nebula]

it seems to still be very broken

[full mantle]

have you tried heading to a new planet base or station and spawning your ship from there?

[dapper mesa]

Any light fighters that can fit inside a c2?

[serene furnace]

probably an arrow

[rain lava]

Arrow can fit but you need to be realy carefull to make it fit

And take time

[shrewd tartan]

i found a tool that i couldnt really navigate for trade routes, im trying to master the multi commodities routes... any list/website guide ? my search again led me to things i couldnt use 😄 thanks in advance 🙂

[iron compass]

I use UEXCORP.space, but I also mostly do Hadanite mining for money and can't really speak too much about efficient ways to plans routes for cargo running

[shrewd tartan]

ama try that thx

[north oyster]

Jack Axton's video on trade refresher course is pretty good. It's about 6 months old but still valid

[young wren]

im seeing two copies of all my ships in the refinery terminal, this is concerning

[humble stump]

How do I avoid having my prospector randomly blow up with no warning while I'm simply beaming a rock?

[wary maple]

beaming rock? You mean you were cracking a rock? (rather than collecting the fragments)

[humble stump]

Cool video on how to make 50k an hour I guess

[deep vector]

Lold

[fading nebula]

if my ship blows up do i need to re purchase my mining laser

[pastel flame]

no

just modules

[misty coyote]

I'm not really interested, yet, in Quant mining. Is the rest of the money in mining and refining, or mining and selling ore in many runs

?

[north oyster]

Selling raw is at 50% of what you could make on that same ore if you just took time to refine it. So, for example, I had 16 refinery jobs that was worth 3.5M aUEC at the TDD. I could've just settled for 1.75M aUEC if I had sold those loads raw to the refinery.

[misty coyote]

That's fair...Jsut wondering...

Plus it means I get to haul...WHich I do like doing

[north oyster]

Fill up a C2 and that's over 6M aUEC delivery

[misty coyote]

I don't have a C2...Got a freelancer, and that's as far as I can plunge myself into IRL moneys

....Though now you've put a seed idea into my head..

[mental aurora]

You don't need irl money. With mining you can earn enough in game

[misty coyote]

It's slow going.....

[north oyster]

FL iis a good ship, you can try ROC mining if you want. That's no refining because you sell the gems straightout

[mental aurora]

Just going to take a couple more trips in the freelancer at first

[north oyster]

FL can do bounties pretty good also

[misty coyote]

I have been ROC mining, which is ok. I really prefer Asteroid mining though, or at least, atm I prefer the idea of

[north oyster]

The Halo offers lots of coin for the taking

[mental aurora]

You really should consider quant though if you're trying to get money faster. It's much more lucrative than the alternatives

[misty coyote]

The game is already full of ways to make you waste your time, like when your ROC stops working and you lose 2 hours of mining. Or just crashes, and you waste 2 hours mining.

[north oyster]

it's not for everyone, even those who are motivated by earning aUEC are sometimes too bored to mess with mining. I, for one, find it super relaxing and fun.

this build is a dumpster fire, that's for sure

[misty coyote]

Relaxing is what I'm after I think...More passive income

And I dislike the C2's aesthetic...

[north oyster]

I had about 250K aUEC just vanish out of my Prospector for no reason. Fun times

[mental aurora]

It's weird. Mining feels like it should be tedious but it's all I actually want to do now after I started

[misty coyote]

Gotta love the ship you're in...Or at least, not hate it

[north oyster]

that means you will have fun while you print money

[mental aurora]

I doubt we'll end up with anything that's going to be relatively passive. Closest would be cargo hauling if that ever gets better

[north oyster]

C2 is a fun ship, love having her. Currently though the thrusters act like the ship has no mass, wishing they'd fix that sometime soon.

[mental aurora]

I tried the C2 for the first time today, I guess that's what I ran into. It just felt like it handled weirdly

Felt very different from the taurus

[fading nebula]

if i store my ship will quant still explode

[north oyster]

no, that stops the timer

be sure to land carefully, a rough landing will accelerate the timer to critical

[fading nebula]

i got like 18 cargo worth of quant before the timer got scary

is it pure rng if you fill ur cargo or not or am i doing it wrong

[north oyster]

15 minutes as a rule

starts as soon as you take the first scoop

that's why crack everything first

The timer will show up on the HUD at 14:30

[fading nebula]

do i need to look for a really good quant rock to start with

i think my first rock was like 45% quant and a load of other stuff

[north oyster]

yes, no less than 20%

wow, 45% is near the top of % for Quan

when you crack it down to purple, only scoop from 100% quan until there either a full 32 SCU load or you need to start colleting less pure rocks

Most of us call a pure 32 SCU of Quantainium a Unicorn

[fading nebula]

im pretty sure im too poor to refine my first load, is there more money in doing several unrefined runs or just refining it all

[wary maple]

This might help you with the %'s Someone in this channel posted it and I found it useful so kept a copy 🙂

[fading nebula]

so i can fill cargo in one rock?

[north oyster]

The Dinyx is inexpensive. Maybe 8k for a Quan load. But if you have to sell raw, you will only have to do it once

[fading nebula]

whats a dinyx

[north oyster]

The type of refinery method

[fading nebula]

i went to an L2 station and there was still a refinery, can i only do it at L1's?

[wary maple]

in theory, but it's also down to how many pure chunks you get

[north oyster]

you can do it at any refinery, but you will need to keep track of where the jobs are

[fading nebula]

the jobs?

[north oyster]

refinery jobs

[fading nebula]

oh, the quotes thing

yeah that

ive not been able to sell ores like, at all

[north oyster]

You will want to ONLY use Dinyx or Ferron for refining

[fading nebula]

i keep getting to the screen and get service error

[north oyster]

humm, there have been issues with selling raw ore

[fading nebula]

only raw?

[north oyster]

when you go into the refinery shop at the top of the building, there are two Kiosk. ON the left side wall are the kiosk that you sell raw. Straight in are the kiosk that you setup refinery jobs. Don't go to the Admin office of the station.

[fading nebula]

yeah im at the ore sale kiosk and i can use it properly but once i try to sell i get a service error

[north oyster]

does it show your ship and contents?

[fading nebula]

yeah everything is working fine on it except the selling part

are refined ores not bugged or is it the same for all of them

i can go and do a mission to afford one of the quick refines lol

[north oyster]

refining is working just fine. CIG would have a riot if that got screwed up

Need less than 10k for a Dinyx job

what ship do you have to transport cargo?

[fading nebula]

uh

good question

[north oyster]

you can't do that with the Prospector

[fading nebula]

after refining do i need to ship it over to a major city

[north oyster]

correct, like the TDD at Area18, New Babbage, Orison (not recommend) or the CBD at Lorville

Orison is just a pain to get to and brutal on the video fps

[fading nebula]

then we have an issue

[north oyster]

what's up?

[fading nebula]

lol my only ship is the prospector

[north oyster]

so you CCU'd your starter ship to a Prospector?

[fading nebula]

yea, i wanted to mine and i was under the impression id be able to just sell the raw materials atleast

[wary maple]

you could rent a Cutty Black for 27,000?

[north oyster]

yes, you should be able to sell the raws. Have you tried HUR-L1 since L2 isn't working?

[fading nebula]

im at uh

arc l1

[north oyster]

is it Quan?

[fading nebula]

yup

has like 2 minutes left

not even that

[north oyster]

dang, need to refine that then.

what's your game handle?

[fading nebula]

my name?

[north oyster]

yes, in SC

[fading nebula]

FunkY2901

[wary maple]

just saw a post saying if you're wearing a backpack when at the ore selling station that can bug it out

[fading nebula]

tried it without a backpack and still errored, would have been upset if that was the issue

[wary maple]

found something in the issue council, someone posted this as a possible workaround

[north oyster]

since he's already tried this might not work. but a few extra funds and he can start up a refinery job instead of sell raw

[wary maple]

How I read it was, re-log, take off clothes, sell. I could be wrong though 🙂 But yeah, refining would get round it and net more money, win-win

[mental aurora]

I'm just happy that it's that that's bugged rather than the refinery

[wary maple]

hell yeah

[north oyster]

having the MOLE bugged out and the refinery store Kiosk bugged out are big enough issues let alone something like that, LOL

[mental aurora]

Yeah I can imagine having a mole must be a pain right now

[wary maple]

I really hope they sort the Mole out, I want to get one but currently that would be Credits out an Airlock!

[mental aurora]

Should be fixed in 3.17.2

[north oyster]

it's definitely fixed on the next patch

[mental aurora]

How much in advance do we find out the patch is coming? Trying to figure out when I should stop mining

[crimson oak]

i stopped over the weekend just incase

[north oyster]

The new patch is still in NDA testing

[mental aurora]

I've switched to ferron for now so that it's not too bad. I can't seem to actually stop mining

[north oyster]

Once it goes to Open PTU it will be a day or two after that probably. Or it could be a week after going open PTU. hard to say

[mint mango]

Hey guys, when I'm doing physical mining, is there a way to spot which specific mineral I want to mine? Ore are all of the ore's the same?

Or* lol

[glacial dagger]

The only way to tell what's inside a rock is to use the dedicated scanning mode

[mint mango]

Ohh ok

[glacial dagger]

Check your keybindings list to find what it it, it's in operator modes right at the top

[north oyster]

hand mining?

[sage dragon]

compared to... mental mining?

[mint mango]

yes

[north oyster]

The small deposits normally have color veins on the rocks

[glacial dagger]

Simply activate scanning mode, look at the rock in question and hold trigger 1 to begin the scan

If your after quant, a really good tell tell is orange streaks in the rock

[north oyster]

also some of the caves have loot boxes with gems in them and also on the NPCs

[glacial dagger]

Your mining laser can also do an indepth scan of the rock, as well as tell you the percentages of each composite

[north oyster]

He's hand mining, not ship or ROC

[glacial dagger]

Indeed. The ?RT Entrenched Bounties contract

[mint mango]

So quant isn't exclusively in astroid belts?

[north oyster]

Lyria also

[sage dragon]

can't hand mine quant

[mint mango]

ah

[north oyster]

but also on MT moons, but eviroment is pretty bad there

[glacial dagger]

Oh. Well, with hand/ROC mining, purple crystals are Hananite, Green is Dolovine and blue is Aphorite

[north oyster]

The asteroids do have hand mining gems on them but they are normally the worthless dolivine

[glacial dagger]

For quant mining, I personally much prefer the Aaron Halo, for hand/ROC mining, i love Daymar/Abberdeen

[mint mango]

Yes! And I was really thinking about leveling up my bounty hunting so I could do the cave missions and reap the extra minerals.

[glacial dagger]

I'm trying to find as many ?RT missions to get to the caves. I'm 20 in and still havn't had a cave bounty

😦

[mint mango]

You have to be level 3 in bounty hunting, right?

[glacial dagger]

Dam, that high?

Looks like I'm possibly doing it wrong then...

Time to spam the VHRTs then 😄

[mint mango]

I believe so, but it's very worth it. Peeps are walking out with 150k+.

[north oyster]

If you can get the locations, you don't need a mission to harvest them

[glacial dagger]

Only 150k? I'm seeing reports of 300k-400k 😄

[mint mango]

But as an additional benefit, it's very much worth it. You get to loot the minerals off of dead bodies.

[mint mango]

Jeeesus

Well, I'm going in. Thanks for answering, y'all.

[glacial dagger]

Then again, I'm already making 100k-130k profit on doing a few certain cargo runs, and I can do those indefinitly 😄

[mint mango]

Cargo runs? Is leveling up delivery worth it?

[glacial dagger]

Oh, not box missions, jsut buying a few commodities and then selling them for profit 😄

Cant wait to get contracts for this kinda stuff 😄

[mint mango]

ohhh ok

[glacial dagger]

Kinda like the medical supplies during 9T

[mint mango]

Is there a vid on that?

Won't ask you to explain that lol

[glacial dagger]

Not so much a vid, but I can tell you a good route

[mint mango]

I meeaaan

If you don't mind

[glacial dagger]

DM'd you 😄

[north oyster]

Cargo only favors the largest ships, not an entry level event

[glacial dagger]

Idk about that one, running drugs in a small ship cna be pretty profitable for new players, and it can teach them the harsh lessons we more seasoned haulers can only tell them

[north oyster]

cargo overall isn't in a good place. Vice does offer some options. stims, etc have an excellent margin however the buy-up amounts are brutal overall, making turnaround times pretty hefty penalty. Some items can be sold at almost every stop (ie stims) but there is the time traveling to every pothole in the galaxy

agree to "harsh lessons" lol

[glacial dagger]

Stims can defo be baught and sold in Bulk. Cant remember the purchase place, but Lorvile CBD can buy multiple C2s worth of the stuff 😄

[pastel flame]

I have run stims in c2 for hours before

Other drugs big no no

Like 240k investment for 75k return wasn't bad

[glacial dagger]

Yh, i havn't really played around too much with other drugs. part of the problem is too much hopping around for me. Maybe we could get a round robin contract 'pick up X amount of Y commodity, then sell z amounts to locations A, B & C'

[north oyster]

most places only buy up 50 units at a time, so you will need to be careful about where you try to unload. SC Trade Tools comes in handy there

[glacial dagger]

Of Stims? Lorvile litterally buys ship loads of the stuff 😄

[grand steppe]

not even sure where to ask this. I have an Omega, the cargo also being added to that version of the mustang?

[vivid sorrel]

I don't think i understand the question, the Mustang Omega has no cargo

[grand steppe]

I was reading they are adding cargo to the mustang Beta, kinda like how the mule cargo works. Wasnt sure if the Omega or all Mustangs are getting small cargo.

Ships and Vehicles
Mustang Alpha QoL Updates
Made changes to the cargo grid to add a new 4 SCU cargo box with animated doors. Updated the cargo boxes used by the Mustang so that they can open and hold loose cargo. Greatly increased the cargo bay health

[vestal ravine]

Got a question on the ROC-DS. Is it actually rentable and what would be the smallest rentable drive on ship that can haul it? Thanks!!

[north kite]

i think maybe the cutlass can hual it

the freelancer def can

[grand steppe]

lol ya the cutlass and ROC-DS meme..

It says it can, but the Cutlass definitley cant. Only the ROC

[vestal ravine]

I do have a Freelancer so thanks!!

[gaunt fiber]

right the DS will not fit in a Freelancer, it will fit in a Freelancer Max

the ROC fits in both

the DS is a lot wider than the regular ROC

[north kite]

Oh

Maybe try

[dapper mesa]

Can I add anybody in game? Need a server anchor for running cargo and will be mining afterwards.

[onyx crow]

Is it possible to mine with a rented prospector? Or must I have upgraded components?

[dapper mesa]

You can mine with a rental, just not quantanium. But bexalite, laranite, taranite are doable.

[misty coyote]

How is the RAFT for cargo hauling? Anyone heard of changes to the cargo containers in the back, like upgrading them or altering?

[gaunt fiber]

The RAFT is an okay option, but if funds are limited, I’d probably go with a Freelancer Max or some other multi-purpose ship which also hauls

the advantage of the RAFT is supposed to be you’ll save time loading and unloading cargo because the containers are on the outside.

the upcoming cargo refactor will probably give us some answers as to how much time and other undisclosed answers to such questions.

[misty coyote]

I have a MAX, but it's a pledge ship, which I'll be switching out for a Vulture

Getting my fleet ready for it.

I really like mining in space.... Even if its not the money maker Hadanite mining is...

[gaunt fiber]

you’ll have more luck with Hadanite on one of the moons though.. do you hand mine in the belt?

[misty coyote]

I'm ROC mining at the moment with the MAX. It's good....

[gaunt fiber]

in space? 🙂

[misty coyote]

Daymar usually

Bit there has been too many duff nodes.

[gaunt fiber]

ahh okay, I was confused sorry… I was like how did he launch a ROC into space?

Daymar is good, Arial is pretty good as well, but you’ll need the Pembroke armor to mine there longer than 10-15 mins.

[misty coyote]

Ha.... Nah..... Went to Aberdeen.... When you explode for little reason, buying a new pembrook is a pain

[young wren]

Anyone know if tomorrow's maintenance will have an effect on ongoing refinery jobs? Should I liquidate asap?

[gaunt fiber]

agreed

[misty coyote]

I'll try Arial too.

[gaunt fiber]

I’ve had pretty good luck on Arial. I bounce between there and Daymar… I enjoy Daymar more actually… easier to land my ship there for sure.

[gaunt fiber]

No one knows for sure. And it may not be tomorrow. If it’s the patch we only have a rough timeline of when it may drop.

well “we” don’t know, I’m sure someone at RSI knows

[young wren]

Wasn't there a post on spectrum with pretty precise timing for the maintenance?

[vestal ravine]

This Tuesday, the Narrative team brings us the monthly Galactapedia update. We will also be performing scheduled maintenance on Tuesday, starting at approximately 0630 Pacific / 1330 UTC. This will result in expected downtime for approximately 5 hours, during which time, the persistent universe, Arena Commander, and our websites will be unavailable.

[gaunt fiber]

ahh, okay that’s maintenance not the 3.17.2 patch

so that should just be a server outage

you won’t be able to play, but it probably won’t have any data loss

the whole point of taking the server down for maintenance is so you can restart the server(s) while players are not using them

[young wren]

Cool cool, good to know. I don't have many jobs processing right now, just didn't want to risk loading up more and losing it all tomorrow

[gaunt fiber]

right, you’re probably good

[young wren]

Boy are the servers in need of a restart

[hollow sedge]

can the prospector mine on a planet like a roc?

[young wren]

Performance has been trash the last few days

[sage dragon]

yes

[gaunt fiber]

but when the patch does land I wouldn’t be so sure. They have wiped work orders in the past, I’ve lost a few that way.

yes, it took me five attempts to leave New Babbage today

[young wren]

I've heard rumors of duplicated orders when patches drop, I'm gonna gamble

[gaunt fiber]

yeah, me too!

I was going to do the same exact thing… assuming I can leave NB

right now none of my ships will claim and I’m running out of ships because they need claiming after all the crashes

I may have to try to leave microTech with my Merlin if things don’t improve soon

[young wren]

Why not fly a rental out? Less risk

[hollow sedge]

I havent played since like 3.13, does the new server crash ship-inventory-saving tech actually work?

[gaunt fiber]

oh, good idea… I might try that if all else fails

@hollow sedge I’d say yes most of the time. The 30K protection has saved me more than one time.

[hollow sedge]

I want to do hauling but I dont know if I should wait till I have more cash stocked up just in case

[gaunt fiber]

The cargo persists pretty well, but ship inventory and items in the ship not so much

[hollow sedge]

oh so if you buy a bunch of cargo to resell it should stay in

[gaunt fiber]

You’re the most safe on the pad when buying, the risk of a 30K while traveling is still real, it’s anyone’s guess if your cargo is safe while in transit.

[young wren]

So far my experience is, if I have cargo and 30k I can recover the ship. If I have no cargo and 30k I lose the ship. Take from that what you will

[gaunt fiber]

yeah, it’s a bit of a mixed bag. It has to do with the timing of the 30K, where you are, and what you’re doing.

[hollow sedge]

oh does the ship actually stay in space?

[crimson oak]

its worked for me when i crash to desktop as well, i load back into the game in my ship in space fine.

[young wren]

My weekly runs to TDD are ruining my nerves

[gaunt fiber]

haha welcome to cargo hauling!

[cerulean shard]

trying to sell widow at shallow feilds is this a thing ?

[gaunt fiber]

I can say when you land, or even get a landing pad assignment, you’re most surly safe

you’ll wake up at the location and your ship will be stored

[misty coyote]

Love that rush! Crashes, both software and by the auto pilot.... When pirates are added..... Its gonna be a rush!

[young wren]

You haven't lived till ATC assigns you the smallest hangar available for your C2 filled with quant

[gaunt fiber]

and let’s not forget the deadly stairs after you are leaving to get into your ship and they just kill you as you’re walking down them

[hollow sedge]

does auto-land ever crash u into the wall?

[young wren]

Sometimes, not often though

[humble stump]

uhhh... size 2 lasers only get 1 module but size 1 get 3? Is that right?

[hollow sedge]

its funny I played for a long time and just now learned that auto land is a thing haha I wonder what else I still have no idea about

[humble stump]

mining lasers that is

[north oyster]

Yes, the Mustang is getting its cargo repaired and will have 4 SCU of storage when 3.17.2 drops

[ember grail]

*The Alpha specifically. It currently can already carry cargo, they're just adding an accessible cargo bay

Interestingly enough the Aurora can also carry cargo somehow

[north oyster]

about 4 or so years late on the "entry level" ship for cargo and deliveries. Pretty sad. But the info seemed to indicate that the grid would accommodate items just tossed in on it. I'm not sure if the internal storage will change also

if that is fixed, it may loose the title of Worst ship in the game

The cargo refactor of 3.18 will also demand that the Aurora gets her hauling certificate, because she can actually carry a nice bit (in theory)

[misty coyote]

I've never had it happen, until today at Area 18.....no idea why it only occurred there.

[north oyster]

Area18 has a collection of issues ... I'm nervous every time I land there

Or QT there

and it's my home base, LOL

[misty coyote]

How do you trigger it?

I like area 18....

[north oyster]

Hold N if you want to auto land

[misty coyote]

Is it a bug when it forces the auto land?

[north oyster]

but some areas will kick in the the auto pilot and crash you to the ground

slam you like a ragdoll

[misty coyote]

I knew about holding N.... Which seems to only work a frog's ass above the ground

[north oyster]

tru dat

[misty coyote]

Still.... I don't need to strafe down for less than a second...

[topaz burrow]

FYI there's a chance of losing refinery jobs with tomorrow's server maintenance.

[serene quest]

see it's shit like this that has me annoyed

[mental aurora]

Had basically that on a group of 8 rocks on lyria yesterday. Highest was like 9%

Although I hate bad breaks more than that even

[serene quest]

with that though, at least across the 8 rocks you might get a full tank on chunks

[mental aurora]

Wasn't worth the time it would take to break all of them tbh. I just kept searching.

[serene quest]

sadly agree

that's my problem with mining atm

nothing make looking for anything but Q cost effective

literally no reason to mine anything else

[mental aurora]

That's true. Hopefully they balance it better in the future

[serene quest]

sad part is you have a better chance of filling out on Quant than you do any of the other high value ores

since the % on those are incredibly small in comparison

[mental aurora]

But while quant is at least 2x if not more higher value I doubt that'll change

[serene quest]

that's fine

but I've never seen Bexa over 3%

[mental aurora]

It's more valuable and easier to get is the problem. The cheaper ones should at least be a lot more abundant

[serene quest]

I mean they absolutely are

oh nvm, I get what you mean

the cheaper high value ones

agreed

they're rarer than Quant in the amounts you find them at

[humble stump]

I was finding a 32%+ within 3 minutes of jumping every time today. Most days I do.

The few times I don't I just change which band I'm visiting.

[mental aurora]

3 min is very lucky.

[humble stump]

I don't really think so.

Been that way for me 100+ times.

[serene quest]

I as gettin that on band 8 for while

but it's gettin slow again

[humble stump]

Just try a dif band.

[mental aurora]

I should try asteroid mining I guess. I've only done lyria so far. Typically takes me 5-10 min to find something minable sometimes longer.

[humble stump]

uhh yeah

you don't solo mine in lyria

[serene quest]

you can, just takes a while

gotta use the tools

[humble stump]

in lyria you find 80-150 scu of quant in 10-20 minutes.
in belt you find 25-80 scu of quant in 1-5 minutes

since you can only hold 32 gee it's obvious which is better

no, it's objectively bad to solo mine in lyria

the only argument for it is "3d space confuses me and the plane is simpler" which okay fine but you're going to earn half as much that way.

[mental aurora]

I just hadn't realized it was that much faster in the belt tbh. I guess that's what I'll be trying today

I just assumed it was going to be relatively similar

[dapper mesa]

Honestly it's all rng

[mental aurora]

Can the vk-00 work for belt mining or should I switch to atlas for that?

[dapper mesa]

Sometimes in the belt find a rock in 5 mins

Yesterday I timed it at half an hour

I use vk-00 for belt mining from arc L1, never had an issue

[grand steppe]

is there like an automatic mining laser I should upgrade to immediately with the Prospector?

[dapper mesa]

lancet s1

[grand steppe]

k, ill check out some vids, im just so overwhelmed with it. I dont mind trying to figure it out on my own.. but.. this stuff is deep

[serene quest]

either is fine, the diff is miniscule

you're goin for speed over distance

[dapper mesa]

Yeah there's definitely a learning curve

To learn, I would suggest going to aaron halo with lancet and surge module (don't need surge there, just helps speed things up)

http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

Once you get comfortable with smaller rocks there, and learn some of the basics, can go to lyria where there's bigger rocks. You'll want lancet with surge/stampede/optimum modules is a good build.

[humble stump]

vk-00 is good yes. Just refuel each time you land

[grand steppe]

do the modules stay or are they like one time use?

[mental aurora]

Some are passive some are active and give you 5 uses

[grand steppe]

k

[dapper mesa]

Yep, and if your ship gets destroyed or you have to claim it, you lose equipped modules, so buy extras

Anyone had issues with refinery orders after server maintenance before?

Seems like there's maintenance tomorrow, down for 5 hours

[serene quest]

just cut my profit by like 20k to account for a potential loss

Mustang Alpha actually gonna be decent next patch?

[humble stump]

1x surge 2x vaux-c3. The improved instability will speed things up more than using stampede and optimum

[dapper mesa]

Never tried that build. With a lancet?

[humble stump]

Yes

Very easy to stay in the green with 2x vaux-c3

so basically does the same thing optimum does, making it easier to stay in the green, but it's a passive

I guess using stampede is a little faster but... you're having to replace 3 active modules so much.

[dapper mesa]

What size rocks we talking? I broke an 8200 last night with double surge, optimum, stampede

[humble stump]

... you don't solo mine in Lyria with a prospector.

[dapper mesa]

I do lol

[humble stump]

It's wrong.

[dapper mesa]

For funsies

[humble stump]

You can do it, but it's half the credits per hour

[dapper mesa]

Not when it takes half an hour to find a good Q rock in the halo

[humble stump]

It takes 1-5 minutes in the halo.

[dapper mesa]

Because 9/10 are unscannable

You have amazing luck then

[humble stump]

unscannable bug happens in Lyria just as often.

[dapper mesa]

It actually doesn't though

[humble stump]

I don't think it's luck when like 100 out of 120 times I've found a 25scu+ rock in 1-5 minutes, with 3/4ths of them being 31-32 scu.

If you get that much unscannable, just bed log and change servers.

[dapper mesa]

Done that

[humble stump]

I get 650k+ an hour in halo.

[dapper mesa]

Unscannable rocks and clusters everywhere, it's a known issue

[mental aurora]

Which band do you mine in?

[humble stump]

either 7 or 9.

[dapper mesa]

Band 5 usually, but I've tried all different aras

[humble stump]

LMAO

[dapper mesa]

Ok will try 7 and 9 then

[humble stump]

9 I can more reliably find at least 25 scu in 1-3 minutes. 7 takes a bit more looking, and I often run into 80-150 quant which I can't even carry. So more often get the full 32 scu loads. But it's also further away.

Just depends. If I'm not immediately finding good rocks I change band.

1, 10, and 5 are the worst. 6 might be bad too not sure.

3, 4, 7, 9 are the best ones.

but 2 and 8 might also be good? idk haven't checked a bunch since either 7 or 9 always gets me rocks fast.

7 is kind of overwhelming how much there is to scan. 9 you can just keep following the 12km+ ones away and there's such a high ratio of them being q-type. like 1/3rd or 1/4th of them are q-type.

7 has like 3x the density, but like 1/4th as many q-type, but higher % of quant in them and more big groups of 5-15 rocks.

[crimson oak]

i havent tried lyria in the last patch or two but lyria used to be my go to place for prospector quant mining, was very reliable and i cant remember ever finding unscannable rocks there.

wait isn't band 5 in aarons halo supposed to be the best?

i assume density equates to more rocks to mine

[humble stump]

that doesn't show the ratio of quant rocks

or how much quant is in the q-type rocks

yes band 5 has tons of rocks. But very little quant.

[crimson oak]

no but like i said, im kinda assuming density means more rocks to mine

[humble stump]

It says right there (count)

it's the number of rocks

[crimson oak]

ill check out band 9 and 7 though

[humble stump]

but it doesn't say they're good rocks.

you need to be very exact with where you land on 9 btw.

[crimson oak]

yeah but its logical to assume more rocks means more chance of finding what you're looking for

[humble stump]

Any more than 1Mkm off and I think it's a lot worse quality.

I don't think that's logical.

You can find gold in sand. Because there's lots of sand on the beach doesn't mean you're likely to find gold there compared to a river going through a mountain.

It's logical to assume they don't put an equal distribution of Q-type and quality of Q-type on each band.

ANYWAY. Can size 2 mining lasers only fit 1 module? That's how it seems to show in my vehicle loadout hanger.

[crimson oak]

yeah fair enough but without additional information its a good starting point but ill certainly try out those bands based on your own experience and see for myself

no size 2 have the same number of slots as size 1, from the last time i tried mining in a mole anyway

unless they changed things since, its been a few months since i last played persistently

[humble stump]

weird maybe it's just the stock arbor

[young wren]

All this time I've been mining in band 5

[pastel flame]

17.2 can't save the MOLE soon enough

[shell sorrel]

Where do I sell hadanitw in HUR L1

[onyx crow]

First time in a prospector here .... broke some rocks up and one exploded on me ... now the prospector powers on but will not move and mfd's are off .... is this ship dead?

or is there something I can do to save it?

[onyx crow]

Any space station that has a galleria and/or any shubin mining facility where there's a kiosk

if you go to the galleria, it'll be the admin office where you pick up/drop off pckgs

[pastel flame]

Likely took major component damage. You can hit U to power all off and back on, but she may be done.

[stone tinsel]

Prolly done, hold down backspace to self destruct

[pastel flame]

Or alt f4

[hearty belfry]

Question, will the server downtime erase any resources being refined?

[molten pivot]

Got the same question

Does anyone know!

?

[gentle brook]

From what I'm told, yes it will

[mint mango]

When is downtime?

[obtuse sand]

anyone know if the hammerhead has SCU space? nvm 40 scu

[hearty belfry]

tomorrow, June 28, 2022 9:30 AM @mint mango

[mint mango]

Thx

Until?

probably like 1 or something, right?

[cinder monolith]

Speaking of erasure. If my prospector gets bugged out totally with unclaim issue and I need a char reset. Will I lose the ship if it's from ingame auec? And what happens to refinery if char reset for example?

[thin escarp]

@cinder monolith no

[pastel flame]

!reset

[wary tusk]

Character Reset

• [FAQ](#📚┃help-faq message) • Perform a Reset •
• Wait at least A FEW HOURS after reset. The official info on the reset page is OUTDATED.
• *TL;DR by design, you won't lose money, gear, ships, and reputation earned in-game.

*There's still a small risk of losing some items/money after reset. The game is still in Alpha after all.

[cinder monolith]

Lol Rip finally got my first 2 refined ore orders and loaded it to my connie. And 30k'd into the station elevator xD

🤣

[north oyster]

That should still be good. Also if you do a character reset, be sure to give it about 12 hours or longer before logging in

They have been having issue with character resets. A hot fix was suppose to have fixed it but I have my doubts

[cinder monolith]

lol lost it all I think. The ship was duplicated in claim state after I joined another session

😅

[north oyster]

That's part of the issue

I think only a new patch is going to resolve it

[sage forge]

Is anyone else's Prospector scanner forgetting all previous scans when mining quant?

I used to scan each purple rock, then collect. Now it doesn't save previous scans at all.

I'm forced to rescan before every extraction (which adds time...)

[slate loom]

i just cracked a rock and extraction mode is not picking up the material. i just relogged to try and fix it but it still doesn't work. cargo is empty, what is wrong?

i'm in a greycat roc

i just sold a full cargo of hadanite, so its empty. but should i just submit and retrieve the roc again?

[muted fox]

yes

[haughty adder]

pick up a gem and manually put it in the ROC at the back, usually works for me

[slate loom]

bro, is that you?

[slate loom]

fmat?

[haughty adder]

Yes

[slate loom]

wtfg

[haughty adder]

[lime coral]

wheres the best place to do mining ?

[slate loom]

i've been having a grand time ROC mining on arial for hadanite

255000 per load

[hollow sedge]

Actually works wow, literally 1 minute after I bought cargo the server 30k - logged back in and cargo was still in the ship wow

[slate loom]

this fixed it thanks

[hollow sedge]

Do delivery mission packages stay on your ship if you store it?

[ember grail]

Yes

[onyx crow]

Where do I go to sell my refined materials?

[still talon]

Any city

guys need a little help i'm trying a new profesoin and thats mining but i,m mining qauntuim but with a rented prospector and here teh qeustion why cant i mine any qauntuim ore that above 25% qauntium

[vestal seal]

What exactly is the problem

is the instability too high

or is it the resistance

[still talon]

hhhmmm so is there any way that i can mine it like as a solo player

[vestal seal]

yes you can purchase one of the placeable mining modules but you would have to mine on lyria

well you dont have to

but i wouldnt be too trusting on getting the module back in space

[still talon]

but it is rented so not sure if i can mod it

[vestal seal]

its not an item to mod the prospector

its the new placeable modules

so it would stay in you inventory

and you just walk up to the rock and place it on the rock

[still talon]

place the module on the qantuim rock?

[vestal seal]

yes

[still talon]

where can i buy these things

[vestal seal]

i know port olisar haws them but im not sure where else

if the mining station terminals work im sure you can buy them there too

[still talon]

mining station terminals are down

[vestal seal]

thats what i thought

so port olisar should have them

at dumper's depot

[still talon]

and what one schould i get

[vestal seal]

well as i said it matters what problem youre having

is the resistance of the rock too high

or is it the instability

[still talon]

to be honset idk

[vestal seal]

if the rock is too big you won't be able to mine it even with the module

i dont know the exact name of the module but if you go there look for something that lowers the resistance of the rock

im pretty sure that would be the problem you have

[still talon]

alright thank you i'm gonna try it

[vestal seal]

but as a warning itll be pretty painful to mine since the instability might be kinda high

[still talon]

thx mate

[vestal seal]

your best bet should be the boremax

it decreases the resistance of the rock by 75%

and they have around 5 uses each if the dont break randomly so make sure to go pick it up after

but make sure you dont harvest the quant before you pick it up due to the time it takes

[thin escarp]

@still talon highly suggest checking out my guide pinned in this channel

goes over loadouts tips tricks etc

event have a scouting guide

[serene quest]

@thin escarp 🫀

I was thinking about salvaging today

[thin escarp]

@serene quest def will have a guide on that when it hits

[serene quest]

I’m gonna snag a vulture and hawk the 890 jumps

Def want to see what a salvaging loop looks like. Whether or not it’s viable for money making.

Gonna be cashing one in I think. Unless I can scoop enough auec before then

[tawny path]

havent played in awhile is mining still the best money maker?

[dapper mesa]

Quantanium is basically not doable with a rented prospector, the instability is too high. There are placeable gadgets that reduce instability, but you would have to place a gadget on the whole rock and on each rock piece you want to break. The gadgets are also bad about disappearing after use.

[blissful rain]

You need patience

[hollow sedge]

would you say its better to mine in the aurion belt near crusader or surface mining?

i find different densities every day so i don't know what's more consistent

[vestal seal]

If you’re mining quant lyria would be the best

[twilit geyser]

Does anyone know if ongoing refinery orders will remain after maintenance?

[mental aurora]

Been mining on lyria for a while, done 3 belt runs so far and it's been a bit faster than lyria for me.

[topaz burrow]

FYI, there's a chance of losing rafinery jobs during maintenance.

[twilit geyser]

man...

I'd imagine maintenance notices would come earlier but less than 24 hours before the actual event? Whew

[shut escarp]

Quick questions for you all. My prospector got blown up, I repaired it but it seems to be glitched. It wont store anything from mining...

[slate loom]

You’re trying to vacuum but it doesn’t pick up?

Or is it picking up and the cargo hold number doesn’t move? Explain

[north oyster]

try replacing the head with the stock laser and mining some basic ore and see if that works. Then replace the laser back with the Lancet and see if you get the same result.

[shut escarp]

Like it picks it up and itr registers, but then it disappears from the storage

[north oyster]

that's the wild card for maintenance. Sometimes it has, sometimes it hasn't. Very confident when 3.17.2 drops that it will wipe all refinery jobs for sure.

[shut escarp]

I can visibly see that my stroage containers on the side are not there even tho my ship was repaired.

[north oyster]

that has happened to me and with no blown up ship. I saw 28 SCU of Quan just vanish yesterday. I've decided to stop until the new patch drops.

[shut escarp]

Its so frustrating! That was my main source of income lol

[north oyster]

I have half of what I consider my "minimum" amount I like to keep in my wallet. But I'm just going to coast until the new patch drops. I will probably run some trade or something.

"RSI Platform will enter a maintenance window not expected to exceed 5 hours." that's a big window.

[shut escarp]

😦 Sadge

[twilit geyser]

ye I can understand that; problem is maintenance got announced like less than 12 hours before it

[north oyster]

I would clear out any jobs you have in the refinery before they shut the servers down at June 28th @ 1330 UTC this morning (9:30 EST)

[twilit geyser]

damn

[north oyster]

They pulled PTU down yesterday for the NDA group

[twilit geyser]

that's like 60 scu gone

F

[north oyster]

You can risk it, no need to get discouraged.

[twilit geyser]

XD I know

it's just I got super lucky today

[north oyster]

that's only two trips risked

[twilit geyser]

and got 2 full hauls of 32 scu

[north oyster]

oh fun, two unicorns in a row, awesome

[twilit geyser]

yeah I think I will risk those

bail the rest out

CIG be trolling

[north oyster]

any finished or near finished, I would clear them just as a precaution

[twilit geyser]

ye ye

thanks m8

[north oyster]

I cleared all mine last night

[twilit geyser]

hm

All I know is if the orders survive

I can grab a talon first thing tom

else it's waiting at least until night and renting another day of connie andromeda

[north oyster]

I tend to spend first dollars on what feeds the wallet, then buy toys after that

[twilit geyser]

yeahhh I did do ROC mining for a week to get the prospector

didn't want to spend ages saving for the andromeda, which I planned to get after talon

and that's like 1 month later since I will be going on a trip

so just wanted to play around a little

renting an andromeda for a day to just haul cargo isn't too expensive

[north oyster]

ah, makes sense. Enjoy the fruits of your labor

[twilit geyser]

XD thanks and you too

[frail orchid]

hi

any miners here?

[wary maple]

yep!

[frail orchid]

Well.. what ship would you suggest for mining?

and i prefer one i can buy not just rent

[wary maple]

There are only 2... The Mole which is really a multplayer miner and is currently totally bugged, or the Prospector which is a solo miner

[frail orchid]

Ok i feel you dont quite get what i meant with what isaid... about resources... did you ever play eve?

[wary maple]

Nope

[frail orchid]

Ok ... what im trying to do is :

In the future of Star citizen we can build bases etc

those bases will need resources

So im trying to be preemtive

and mine the shit out of stuff so when that happens... i can buy everything or build it right away

but for that to happen

you need vast resource banks

[topaz burrow]

Think we need to wait and see to answer that question. It might be years till then

[frail orchid]

yeah... i kinda got that part

[mental aurora]

Also there will be wipes before it launches so you can't do anything preemptively now

Too many things will change between now and then as well

[sage dragon]

currently, mining is only for money (and well for fun if you like it)

[frail orchid]

ok so im guessing the Q mining is the way to go to get rich? or dead

[mental aurora]

Yes

[marble crater]

we also gonna get a wipe well before any of that happens

[frail orchid]

k np

[topaz burrow]

Mining is not the fastest way to earn money, it's just low risk and relaxing

[marble crater]

but it's good to learn all the game loops available now

all 3 of them lol

[topaz burrow]

I'm just managing expectations here :) I mine in-between other things to relax and look at sights

[marble crater]

yah mining is a great way to chill out and do your own thing

[misty coyote]

On mining, what sort of mining head should I be upgrading to?

I'm not quant mining yet

[frail orchid]

can you use the multi person ship solo and harvest asteroids with it solo?

and how do you Scoop up the mined stuff?

[wary maple]

technically yes, but it is a pain in the ... as you will have to keep getting out of your seat

[frail orchid]

Ok gotcha

[wary maple]

also the Mole is bugged out of existence right now

Once you have cracked the rocks down to the smallest peices you just right click to change to hoover mode

[north oyster]

Whole House Coming Down in about 1 hr & 45 mins

AWS maintenance

[north oyster]

mining game loops is one of the most developed loops in the game. Easy to learn, but mastering takes a little longer. The Prospector prints money, it is the Goose that lays the golden eggs in the game so far. The MOLE is OOC until the new patch drops in about a week or two.

[frail orchid]

whats AWS?

[misty coyote]

Tripper, you're the reason I upgraded my MAX to a Prospector...I want to get involved in the Mining action in space, not on the ground

Not at printing money yet though

[frail orchid]

what does a prospector cost?

[wary maple]

Amazon Web Services

[frail orchid]

How does AWS affect SC?

[wary maple]

2.1 mill + upgrades I think

SC runs on AWS, CIG are taking tehir servers down for maintenance

[frail orchid]

ugh

ok

Well im shy a bit money then lol

[wary maple]

What ship are you running with now, you could do the budget mining in a ROC,butyou need something to transport it

[frail orchid]

Aurora MR?

i started 2 weeks ago?

[misty coyote]

Get enough scratch for a ROC, or rent one. Rent a Cutty Black and go to Daymar

You won't need a fat suit there

[wary maple]

Depending on your money you could rent a Cutlass Black and a ROC. One day rental for the Cutty is 28k and the ROC is about 4k

[frail orchid]

Hold up

I do own a Andromedea as well

[wary maple]

A full ROC load of Hadanite currently nets 220k

[misty coyote]

If you don't overfill

tip....keep going when you hit 100% load....

[frail orchid]

So will i be able to fit a roc inside it?

[misty coyote]

I think you will yes

[frail orchid]

kk

[misty coyote]

It has a belly lift

[wary maple]

you will be able to fit 2 or 3 ROC's in a Connie

[misty coyote]

Amazing ships

[frail orchid]

whats a connie?

[misty coyote]

Constelation

[wary maple]

that actually works?

[misty coyote]

Yep.

[frail orchid]

brb checking what iactually have

[misty coyote]

Got 91scu in my ROC a bit ago

91 of 80

[wary maple]

lol, I always stop, too scared it'll bug out

[misty coyote]

Ha, there is that

But SC

I bought a Helix mining laster for my Prospector, what mining attachments do you add to it?

I have 3 slots....

[frail orchid]

How do you like my ship?

Doesnt that look like the upcoming salvager?

[misty coyote]

Nice, you got a Vulture

[frail orchid]

its a Venture lol

[misty coyote]

CCP have acknowledged in cheeky fashion that there is some copying going on

[frail orchid]

yeah no kiddingh

ive had that thing for years

[misty coyote]

The Nomad is very much like the Asp Explorer from Elite too

[frail orchid]

Wouldnt mind a Tengu in SC

[frail orchid]

i agree

i still use my asp explorer time to time

never bothered with Odyssey as it didnt come to console

[misty coyote]

Which mining modules should be used? I've seen Surge and Brant kicked about here before...Seems like they do different jobs

[frail orchid]

What mining equipment is best?

overall?

[misty coyote]

For ROC mining you don't need any

I'm just dipping into Prospecting

[frail orchid]

kk

[misty coyote]

I can see Gadgets, which I think you have to EVA to the roid to place?

And modules to do ....stuff. Both of which are consumables I think....

Or the node I mean, not just the roid...

[frail orchid]

is SC down now?

[mental aurora]

It really varies depending on what/where you're mining.

[frail orchid]

cant get in

[misty coyote]

GOtta wait for a bit, then exit and go back in

It's trying to work out where you are

[frail orchid]

that would be Norway

[misty coyote]

That would be in game where not IRL

I mean sorry

I've found if your getting a loading screen, esc and exit and try again

it will dump you at your starting station

[frail orchid]

Ok im at A18 in front of this big ball and lost.. where do i go to find the ship shop?

[misty coyote]

The shop or flee manager?

Hold on....

There is a bot for this...

[sage dragon]

!area18map

[wary tusk]

Area 18 City Map

Graphic by Citko

[frail orchid]

shop

[misty coyote]

Astra Armada you want

[sage dragon]

Astra Armada is the ship shop

[frail orchid]

ty found it

Well that didnt help squat for mining needs

So where do i need to go for that?

[mental aurora]

What are you looking for exactly?

[frail orchid]

prospector or mole

[mental aurora]

https://finder.cstone.space/ is what I use to find stuff

Prospector is hurston lorville new deal

[frail orchid]

well f.. i came from there

[sage dragon]

They're both at New Deal, Lorville, Hurston

[frail orchid]

guess its dying time

[mental aurora]

Don't buy a mole.

At least until 3.17.2 launches