industrial-professions

[compact hemlock]

its dumb

is there a way to eject the non-quant stuff from my ship storage??

or just remove it??

[deep vector]

Only all cargo

[wary maple]

this is why you only want to hoover up the purest of rocks

[rugged axle]

What they were saying. If the ship is on the pad. And you got the "landing complete" message. You can exit to menu and the station will auto store the ship. Instead of backspacing, then running all the way back hoping you have enough time left

[high wren]

@compact hemlock also, sometimes being "stuck" in elevator or similar is just a graphical glitch. you can often walk through the elevator doors and be fine

[north oyster]

DM me sometime if you have questions about ROC mining or if I can help. I won't get much of a chance to actually play this week, but I might be able to help from the sidelines. I'm on EST (US) time zone ... just now starting my work day

[north oyster]

The two types of refinery you will want to use are Dinyx Solvention or Ferron Exchange. Dinyx is the least expensive but also takes the longest. So you are looking at a full Prospector of Qantainium taking about 32 hours or longer. Ferron Exchange is twice as expensive but is twice as fast. I normally choose Ferron just for the speed. Previously I used Dinyx for everything until I got my income up to where spending the extra wasn't an issue.

Also, the job duplication bug has been removed and can no longer be exploited.

As to non-Quan material, like Driftwood mentions, you need to chose your collection properly to make sure you get the purest rocks first. There are ships coming (probably the MOLE, Expanse and Orion) that will have extra steps to eliminate inert material from a haul.

[obtuse sierra]

i saw hawke's video on mining on wala, and i get the idea with the scanning trick, but i for one have never had any luck compared to halo mining. anyone else have thoughts on wala mining?

quantanium to be specific

[mild pumice]

making money fueling fortunes be like

I actually thought gold/diamond would've been a little more, not worth it to refine really. Didn't see any Quant in the session, guess they made it more rare?

I was in the Halo

[topaz burrow]

its all luck dependant. sometimes i find quant in 10min sometimes i give up after an hour

[mild pumice]

yeah I used to find it quite quickly not mined in 17 at all

[compact hemlock]

uhh

i go to get quant

scan one rock, first one i scan is Q type, 8.56 instability

[cerulean tree]

so is there a place to buy a ROC and equip it fully with the best in slot

or will I have to zip around to get it done

I understand that mining with a ship is more profitable but I seem to enjoy the ROC process

any opinions on which ship's better for the task, freelancer or cutty?

[wary maple]

I believe all the refinery decks and New Deal sell ROC's

you don't need to upgrade the ROC really, I still run with the default stuff

[cerulean tree]

I heard something about it running out of power

in global on my serv

[wary maple]

but if you want to, check out this site
https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

I've not notice losing power to my ROC and I mine quite a bit, usually for a couple of hours at a time

[cerulean tree]

huh, okay

sounds good

[topaz burrow]

there's nothing to upgrade in roc

[cerulean tree]

so I load it up on my cutty, start scanning and go for the gemstone icons right

that's what I've been doing

[topaz burrow]

yep

the only advise i have is reclaim your roc maybe every 2 runs. The mining laser can bug out

[cerulean tree]

switch to extractor, scoop em up until full and sell to closest mining outpost?

[wary maple]

yeah basically

I would suggest not stopping for anything that is not Hadanite

[cerulean tree]

ok cool just wanted to see if I was doing it right

there are no volatile materials like in ship mining right?

[topaz burrow]

nop

dont even bother moving hadanite to cutty storage it's quicker to go sell than move the minerals one by one lol

[cerulean tree]

cool, where do you guys usually mine? I was mining on that ice planet near ARC yesterday but the gravity over there is hell for handling

also ice

[topaz burrow]

hadanite only is on hot planets like daymar or aberdeen

[wary maple]

Aberdeen\Ariel\Daymar are my goto's

[cerulean tree]

that's what I did yesterday lol...

thought there had to be a better way and someone told me I can sell directly from ROC

[topaz burrow]

haha yeah, this game doesnt make it easy

[cerulean tree]

how's the pirate situation, you get bullied? 😄

[wary maple]

closest sell points are on the planets you're mining on (Example on Ariel just go to HDMS Bezdek or HDMS Lathan)

if you mine too close to the bases you may get picked up by someone, I fly a ways out and so far have not been pirated, but never say never, eh

[compact hemlock]

uhhh

[cerulean tree]

gotcha

[compact hemlock]

when i refine stuff

do i select just the quant

or do i refine everything??

[topaz burrow]

you pick one ore, rest gets discarded

[compact hemlock]

okay

dont suppose any1 knows how much a full prospector bag of refined quant goes for?

[compact hemlock]

oh damn is that all

i wouldve thought it to be more

[topaz burrow]

🙂

[compact hemlock]

i saw a guy sell for over a million, but i assume thats 5 cargo loads of it

[topaz burrow]

no, you can make more money doing other things, but this is low risk, flying among stars just picking some ore up. chill

yes depending what your cargo ship is. I haul in andromeda which can fit 3 full prospectors so I do 3 or 6 or 9 runs before I call it enough

[compact hemlock]

wait but andromeda cant mind

mine

[topaz burrow]

no but it can transfer mined ore from rafinery to TDD selling place

you know you need to move your refined ore to selling place right ? 😄

[compact hemlock]

yeah i know, im working on that

tryna do the maths as to how many cutty runs ill need to do

[topaz burrow]

i use this tool here https://uexcorp.space/refining if you put all your orders here it will tell you what yeld you have in SCU

[compact hemlock]

how many units is one prospect load?

[topaz burrow]

Prospector can fit 32SCU or 3200 mSCU of ore. using Dynix you get 3040 mSCU refined ore

[compact hemlock]

so on this website u sent, i type in 32 under units or unrefined quant??

[topaz burrow]

3200

[compact hemlock]

what i wanted to know tho

is can i use cutty to hoard

and if yes, how much can i fit in it at one time

[topaz burrow]

yes Cutty has 46SCU so you might just need to do one run per order

[compact hemlock]

okay thats not bad

if i have loads of ordered backed up and i dont hoard, where are they kept?

[topaz burrow]

you can create unlimited number or work orders, there will be there for weeks after completion. but will eventually disappear.

one thing to mind is, work orders get wipe with every patch and we are due one end of June, so just plan wisely and keep an eye on this channel

[compact hemlock]

can u recommend a ship that isnt too expensive that i can do 2 or 3 loads of prospect??

basically a good hauler that wont break my bank

[topaz burrow]

cutlass is 1.38mil for 48 scu
freelancer 1.697 mil for 66 scu
freelance max 2.18 mil for 120 scu
Constellation Taurus 3.2mil 176 scu

you can always rent andromeda with 76scu for 71k a day

[thin escarp]

@compact hemlock 270k ish

full prospector run

@compact hemlock a connie can hold 3 prospector runs

freelancer can hold almost a mil if not a mil worth.

@topaz burrow Taurus is not 2.3 mil btw

its 3.26 mil

[topaz burrow]

haha yes, i wrote it the other way around. my bad

[thin escarp]

🤣🤣

[young wren]

dont forget my personal favorite, the argo raft, only 1.85mil, carries 96 scu

[sharp grotto]

anybody have advice so I can unlock a prospect?

U know make the money for it fairly fast

[ember grail]

#star-citizen message

[sharp grotto]

Is cargo hauling good?

[ember grail]

Not really in the current patch, low restock rates, chance to lose investment due to crashes/30ks

And it's really only worthwhile in like a C2

[topaz burrow]

prospector is 2.1mil. Just do bunkers they pay 15, 20, 60 75 and 90k per missions as you rank up the rep

[rugged axle]

Connie Andromeda is 96scu, not 76

[compact hemlock]

taurus or the hercules?

[topaz burrow]

Herc is about 5mil from top of my head. Sure of you have the dollar you might as well get the bigger hauler :)

[compact hemlock]

if i wanted to get a bigger cargo ship than the cutlass for moving my Quant around, do u personally think its better to get say a freelance max, or just save for smthing bigger like taurus

@topaz burrow

[topaz burrow]

If you are planning on doing mainly mining and cargo - yes sure getting bigger ship makes sense. I like mining but it is a little boring to me so I use Andromeda with 76scu and I ain't investing in bigger haulers. Sure I might need to do one more run but idk. Depends what you want to be doing

[compact hemlock]

i think i want one of my primary sources to be mining

maybe hauling too when it isnt in such a bad spot in the meta

but for the foreseeable future, mining

[topaz burrow]

Ah yes, get the freelance now and herc later then

[compact hemlock]

lovely, thanks very much

and freelance max right?

[topaz burrow]

Yeah, more cargo

[vivid sorrel]

I use my max for all the quantum hauls, even if i have a c2. It just feels like a sweetspot in loads IMO

Also if you blow up to bugs you "only" lose a million, not..whatever crazy amount you got in a c2 😛

[topaz burrow]

Yeah, the max might be enough tbh. See how you like it and you will know if you need bigger ship

[vivid sorrel]

But on the other hand, i ONLY use it for my quantum hauling...so eh

[compact hemlock]

i dont like the idea of a ship bigger than sizze "medium" if im honest, i hate the idea of massive overcompensating slow ships that serve one purpose, which is honestly a bad source of income atm due to glitches and what not

so on preference alone i would rather get a heavy hauler - medium, than a hercules

[topaz burrow]

Just don't fixiate on only making money tho. Play and enjoy what's out there. Game will have money wipes as it moves forward so don't forget to actually play it :)

[compact hemlock]

course, atm im looking to mine around 1 mils worth of quant, then play more "fun" stuff like.... being a respectable citizen and not blowing up other people...

amongst more socially acceptable methods of fun like the FPS aspects

[topaz burrow]

:D good good

There's always space on my gunships if you want to hop on gunner seat. Just DM me

[compact hemlock]

thanks v much hats a kind offer

for now i wanna master mining

shooting is a future 'me' problem

[topaz burrow]

Yeah man, ask away if you need anything

[compact hemlock]

thanks very much

[compact hemlock]

wait a sec i do have a Q

i saw that mining the asteroids in space is like the 'safe' way to mine quant

[wary maple]

I love my Max, and if mining is your jam then you might be interested to know you can easily fit a couple of ROC's in the back if that ever takes your fancy

[compact hemlock]

but doing it on lyria is 1. more rewarding but 2. more dangerous

how is it more rewarding if theres still a limit of 32 on the prospect

[topaz burrow]

Yes I only mine in Aaron. Don't need any modules just Lancet. You can spot quant rocks from 12km away, just lovely

[compact hemlock]

so why is there so much hype surrounding lyria?

[topaz burrow]

Lyria has rocks over 5k mass which you can't crack and makes you sad

People just repeat what YouTubers say

Lyria has a bug which currently any cluster or rocks above 6km will be quant

That's it

[compact hemlock]

so u can guarentee wuant locations without having to check?

[topaz burrow]

In Aaron you can spot from 12km away if it's quant and mass can't be over 5k in belt so you know you can crack any good rock

[compact hemlock]

i saw a 5.12k rock in Aaron

and i cracked it

[topaz burrow]

All you do is scan, if quant you come closer check the % if good you crack if bad you fly away

Yeah

Also no atmo flying lol

[hollow sedge]

How much does it cost to rent an Roc miner and a ship to carry it

[wary maple]

ROC is about 4,000
Cutty Black is about 30,000

you'll make that back plus more with one run if you mine Hadanite

[hollow sedge]

That’s the plan

[hollow sedge]

What’s a good planet for that

[wary maple]

Aberdeen/Ariel/Daymar

1st 2 though you will need the hot suit as they are very toasty

[hollow sedge]

Thanks

[high wren]

i mine lyria all the time and make a great amount of cash doing it. i also mine the halo (band 5). I don't think people just base it off youtubers, In my experience it lives up to the hype

[latent jetty]

I’ve cracked a 7k 40% quant rock

[rugged axle]

@compact hemlock to clear some things up...

Constellation Andromeda has 96scu of cargo, not 76. You can take 3 full 32scu loads at once. Has a cargo bay big enough for 2 rocs, or any single ground unit(other than the nova). And can be used effectively as a quantanium cargo ship, bounty hunter ship, or bunker ship. I would go with it...actually I did go with it. I now have a c2 that I use strictly for transporting quant. But still use the Andromeda for everything else sometimes.

Halo is "safer" as pirates can't just quantum to a marker and say, "oh there's a prospector...time to ruin his day". Highest mass rock will be 5122mass, so you can crack them with no issues.

Lyria is more dangerous because pirates can qt to hard points and wait. Highest rock mass is like 8000. You will not be able to crack that on your own, so you would have to either hire a second prospector, or let it sit there.

Lyria can be scanned from the same distances as the halo. Your looking for a group of rocks on the scan. Distance plays no part in if it's quantanium or not. If it's a group of 2 or more, it's quantanium.

[latent jetty]

You can crack an 8k rock with a boremax and surge. You also need to know how to wiggle the mining laser

[rugged axle]

Haven't used gadgets personally. Until the mole is fixed(17.2) I just mine the halo. With a lancet,surge, and 2 fltr xls. Surge strictly to speed up initial cracks in anything between 4500-5122 mass

Once the mole is fixed. I'll go back to mining lyria so I can break a whole cluster and only take the good portions.

[north oyster]

this video by Red Monster SC has supercharged my Halo mining, making quick turns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

[north oyster]

A unicorn (32 SCU of Quan) in a Prospector is a little over 275K aUEC return at CRU-L1. That refinery has a 3% bonus for Quantainium refinement

[young anvil]

anyone else run into the issue where your quant gets turned into inert materials? lost 30 scu last night and couldn't find a workaround :(

[north oyster]

It's still there, go to the refinery. However, if is inert, then it means the time expired while your ship was on the pad (did you stow it?)

I think one of the modules is causing the Quan to look like inert (or be gather as inert)

[young anvil]

I stowed my ship with like 7 minutes left on the timer

[north oyster]

what modules are you using?

[young anvil]

vanilla lancet head

[vivid sorrel]

You're the second person i've heard having missing quant, and ACTUALLY having it missing when coming to the refinery.

I've gotten that bug too, but for me it was only the display, not actual loss

[north oyster]

We might need to see if there is an IC for that

[young anvil]

there was and I contributed, I just was hoping there was a workaround or something

[north oyster]

yeah, I had the bug but display only

[vivid sorrel]

I am assuming this isn't a mole, right?

[young anvil]

correct, prospector

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah i'd look on the issue council then and if you don't find anything create an issue

[north oyster]

3.17.1 is a pure dumpster fire, that's for sure

[vivid sorrel]

But it's a pretty fire! 😛

[young anvil]

alright, thanks anyways. I'm probably gonna avoid mining for a while, back to grinding bounties I guess 😅

[broken harness]

best spot for ROC mining?

[compact hemlock]

wow thanks very much for this its very helpful. so u would recommend the andromeda over the freelance MAX?

[ember grail]

Aberdeen or Daymar

[broken harness]

Thanks!

Do you have to refine ROC ores?

It's my first time doing it

[gaunt fiber]

@broken harness I’d also check out Arial (bring the Pembroke armor)

[rough garden]

does anyone know of a cool industrial ship like the argo raft but it has space for storing stuff?

[gaunt fiber]

you do not need to refine the gemstones you mine

you can sell them at any MDS station on any moon

[broken harness]

MDS station?

What's that

[broken harness]

Thank you

[ember grail]

Any mining outpost, the ones one Hurston are called HDMSs

[gaunt fiber]

^^^ right, what @ember grail said

[broken harness]

Thanks!

[rugged axle]

@compact hemlock yes i would. its a better all arounder ship

[gaunt fiber]

@rough garden the Caterpillar might be a good option: https://starcitizen.tools/Caterpillar

[broken harness]

Does Pembroke armor work with any helmet?

[gaunt fiber]

no, you need the pembroke helmet too

you can survive on Arial (and Aberdeen) for about 15 mins without it

that’s enough time to break a few rocks

but be very careful to go back in your ship and get something to drink to cool off and stay hydrated

you might be able to survive longer with just the suit than without it - I don’t know, I’ve never tried it

[topaz burrow]

quick quesion. My ROC decided it doesnt like extracting anymore. It sucks minerals but drops them later. Any ideas?

[ember grail]

Trying turning systems on/off and getting out of your seat, then back in

[native mulch]

trying out a Prospector where the beest place to mine just renting it

[topaz burrow]

😦 no working. will need to reclaim

[gaunt fiber]

@topaz burrow did you have some gems in your cargo?

I’m in menus now, let me know if you want some help, hate to see you lose your gems.

[topaz burrow]

Nah zero. First time using roc

My buddy is in second roc so Im just the rock breaker atm lol

[tidal forum]

i had that problem... i had to re claim it

[tidal forum]

yeah mine just TOTALLy stopped moving.. its like it was out of gas but it doesn't have gas as far as i know

happened yesterday... was SOOOO annoying...

[topaz burrow]

yeah, always something with SC 😄

[gaunt fiber]

The ROC uses batteries, so I’d suggest upgrading the Power Plants (there are two size zero) which you can buy at New Babbage

[topaz burrow]

geez cant reclaim it, errors out. ROC seems doesnt not like me

[gaunt fiber]

do you have multiple ROCs in your list?

[topaz burrow]

No,just the one

[gaunt fiber]

oh, I thought you might be trying to claim a duplicate

[topaz burrow]

I tried the rapid fire to claim it lol

[tidal forum]

i did hear that

[tidal forum]

log out and in and try

is there any reason Aberdeen is showing up as OM-4??

on my quantum scanner??

never seen that before

[rose cove]

Is it worth scanning single rocks on Lyria for Quant, or just stick to doubles?

[gentle thorn]

Where is the best place to mine with a prospector near Hurston

[rose cove]

Probably Airel but I wouldnt' recommend it

[gentle thorn]

What’s a better place

Anywhere tbh doesn’t have to be near Hurston

[rose cove]

Lyria. By far.

[gentle thorn]

Ok

[rose cove]

Assuming you want Quant

[gentle thorn]

What should I look for when scanning

[rose cove]

Pairs of rocks and a Quant content over 30% IMO

[mint elbow]

i appreciate the offer i could screen share sometime instead of you having to be in game

how long do i get out of the roc before it dies?

should i be going for %100 fill on it

and then sell and destroy/respawn it?

[gaunt fiber]

I’ve never filled it up before it died on me

I’d say go for half full at the most, then take a trip back to an HDMS station and sell and repair.

I’ve got an upgraded ROC by the way…. it breaks down less, but it still breaks down

[mint elbow]

yea i got all the highest grade parts on mine

[native mulch]

how do u upgrade the roc and is it possible to mine the quant with it

[gaunt fiber]

you can buy all the upgrades at New Babbage

you cannot upgrade the mining laser, so it won’t work on Quant rocks

[native mulch]

ok thanks

anyone had a issue with with lyria where the ground so bright u can not see the hub

[gaunt fiber]

I forget what exactly you can upgrade, I know you can upgrade the power plants and maybe the shields, but I do know everything is size 0

[mint elbow]

its power plant and coolers for the roc

[native mulch]

dose it do anything which will help me in game mine more things faster

[mint elbow]

i have no idea

[gaunt fiber]

it makes the ROC more reliable when mining

[dapper mesa]

I just stick to doubles, guaranteed to be Quant that way

[gaunt fiber]

the stock ROC has overheating and power issues, so the upgrades, IMHO, are a requirement to fix the problem.

[tidal forum]

how do i upgrade my ROC?

where do i go and what do i purchase?

[gaunt fiber]

head to New Babbage (MicroTech)

[tidal forum]

ok and is there something obvious to purchase?

[gaunt fiber]

looking up for you

[pastel flame]

Anyone do any ROC mining in a 600i? I've tried valk, connie and cutlass so far

[tidal forum]

also estimated cost?

[tidal forum]

appreciate it... this game is so overwhelming

haven't felt such a learning curve since UO in 1996 or whatever

[gaunt fiber]

The power plants you want are called “Defiant” and you can buy them for 7,400 (x2) at the store called Omega Pro

[pastel flame]

It's very fun once you get going :)

[gaunt fiber]

Here’s a great site to find anything in the game: https://finder.cstone.space/ShipPowerPlants1/ad59f651-83d0-42f3-839a-8f055243ba6b

I just looked for size zero power plants

[gaunt fiber]

I just bought a 600i

Seems like a brick in atmo so I’m still using my MSR for ROC mining

[gaunt fiber]

I agree, but there’s a very helpful community supporting the players in the game.

[pastel flame]

I have flown a 600i a bit but I don't like it for bounties due to the convergence. I thought it might be a fun ROC expedition ship but it probably can't touch the Connie for that.

[gaunt fiber]

I have a Connie as well, but it only fits one ROC, and it’s a lot of ship to fly around and difficult to land.

[tidal forum]

so in a ROC can you mine those huge rocks?? or only the little ones?

[gaunt fiber]

you can only mine the gemstone rocks

[tidal forum]

ok roger

[gaunt fiber]

they have a mass of around 0.8

[mint elbow]

so my ship ramp is bugged

[gaunt fiber]

and will have the diamond icon

[mint elbow]

wont go up or down

i cant get back into it

[tidal forum]

they are the ones that show up as squares or diamonds?

[gaunt fiber]

squares show up for both, then they’ll turn into a star flash, then finally they’ll turn into a diamond or a rock icon

the icons progress as you get closer

so for gemstone mining, look for new boxes that show up between 3-5K away from you

then ping as you approach, if you get close to 1K away and there is still a box icon, then that’s going to be a gem

if it turns into a star flash before you get that close, you can ignore it, it’s a ore rock which cannot be mined in the ROC

[mint elbow]

good getting a cuttyb and a roc was a terrible call

i cant even get one minning run in without bugs

also the distance from the floor in my cuuty b just never works

and ramp works maybe %50 of the time and i get stuck outside the ship

[calm hazel]

cutty roc mining is super painful

[gaunt fiber]

oh man, sorry to hear that. I have had similar issues with the cutty

[mint elbow]

cutty is all i have that can carry my roc

my 4th attempt at mining and i still have yet to get anything sold

[gaunt fiber]

@mint elbow I had a rough start ROC mining too. I found better success teaming up

that way if anything happens, you’ve got another person to help solve probs

[mint elbow]

finding people to team up is a pain

i just wana jump in and punch some rocks

[gaunt fiber]

haha, yeah, that’s true

I’m always up for teaming up, just look for me. I use my MSR which fits two ROCs

[mint elbow]

im around now if you wanted to do a hour or two

[gaunt fiber]

yeah

[mint elbow]

ign is same as disc

[gaunt fiber]

cool, give me a min to get in game

[mint elbow]

might need to restart game

sounds arnt playing

and i think the party is bugged

[north oyster]

@mint elbow I sent a DM

[hollow sedge]

whats the max number of refining processes you can have on at one time in a station

[marble crater]

Don't think there's a limit. I've had a little over 40 at once

Patches tend to clear your refinery though so best to clear it up when one is coming

[narrow condor]

Is logical ship progression after buying the prospector the c2 to own a dedicated cargo hauler (for mining).

[compact hemlock]

just got my first full load of pure quant and nothing else

in prospector

[hardy mesa]

Best of luck

[timber cape]

Anyone looking for someone to scout out quant for a group?

[jagged valve]

is there a good use for the Mule yet?

[marble crater]

won't have any use until cargo refactor is in game due 3.18

[jagged valve]

rgr rgr. still fun to toy with at the moment 🙂

[marble crater]

hope they make a big boy version to load the larger ships

[scarlet rover]

and increase MPUV-1C cargo space...

[strong kestrel]

if you're not worried about time, is there any reason not to refine extra ores in your load besides quant? like you cant lose money on it right?

[marble crater]

it adds time/cost to your refining

[vestal ravine]

Awesome score!

[vestal ravine]

With the Cutty and Roc you have to be careful how you park the thing on these moons. Daymar has the smoothest terrain. If there is a slope orient the ship so the ramp is upslope. Open the ramp and check the height clearance while still on the ramp. Use F4 to see what's going on. The ROC can power up on a gap on the ramp so use that to exit the ship and drive back on. If it don't look right fly to another area. Another option bring a Mule along and park it last. Drive it out and park it by the side doors after opening them. You can jump up on it to get back in the Cutty. Then if you are done with everything you can leave it right there. I like the challenges of parking the Cutty like on Aerial and Aberdeen. But I also have the Nomad for those tight spots!!

[muted fox]

how long average does it take on lyria for yall to find some decent quant rocks

[vestal ravine]

Five hours ago we had three ships on Lyria and all found Gems. But then one miner couldn't find any and we had to leave it. Go to OM 1 and straight down. It is a good Moon for gems. I got jumped by a pirate high in the atmo. Be careful have your QT jumps laid out in advance. Good luck. Ohhhh Quant. Not sure about that.

[marble crater]

for me it ranges from the moment I exit quantum jump to an hour lol

[muted fox]

lmao so its not just me

[marble crater]

it's all rng

[mint elbow]

whats the standard mining setup for the prospector?

[muted fox]

i enjoy it for sure but i didnt know if i was just terribl

grinding tn to buy my buddy a prosp

[marble crater]

I've found if you haven't seen anything in 15-20 minutes it's time to jump to a different spot

[muted fox]

ive had some luck dropping at Elsewhere and scouting the mountains

[marble crater]

over time you'll have a couple go to spots and jump in between

[native marsh]

for quant: lancet MH1 with stampede, surge, and your choice of Brandt/fltr-xl modules

[mint elbow]

i can buy all the extra parts at new babage right?

i have the mining laser already

[native marsh]

you should be able to buy all of them yes. if you want the hand placed modifiers, i've found the best ones to be boremax+waveshift or boremax+optimax or all 3 if you have one you REALLY want. Theres always a chance that you wont recover them and you'll lose their value

NB doesnt have all the hand placed ones though only 3

[pastel flame]

This is some high tier advice, if you mine in space a lancet and surge to speed up heating is the poor man's version

[mint elbow]

whats better space or planet mining?

[pastel flame]

I prefer Aaron Halo but you can kill it on planets too

[native marsh]

right now with dead nodes in space, i've found it easier to find deposits on lyria

anything in a cluster of 2+ on lyria is quant

[pastel flame]

In the Halo less pirates and no rocks needing special heating

But Lyria is great

[native marsh]

D3 makes a good point... no pirates/quantum interdiction extortions and their mass caps at 5200 so easily solo minable

[pastel flame]

Basically Coco is giving you top tier miner advice

And i'm a 2 bit wannabe miner

[mint elbow]

also what are hand placed modifiers?

[pastel flame]

I put on guardians of the galaxy soundtrack and vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL5HeGkRNWU&ab_channel=RedMonsterSC

[native marsh]

they're modules you get out of your ship and attach to a node to make it less resistant... more stable... etc

all have tradeoffs but they can enable you to solo crack much larger rocks with high quant %

[pastel flame]

Yes or run a helix

[mint elbow]

this is allot of info

😳

[pastel flame]

Like I said, surge, go to the belt if you want simple. You just pop the surge off the bat to pop up close to optimal

[marble crater]

Halo is the best spot if you're learning, quiet, no gravity & no huge rocks that need advanced techniques

[obtuse sierra]

just found a cluster of 9 quant rocks in the halo which i didnt think was even possible

unfortunately all of them are under 20% ;-;

[young wren]

could always just crack two of them and fill up

[mint elbow]

so my ship is ready to go now?

[pastel flame]

Lookin hot to trot. I dont use filtr but it may be helpful!

Just hate when I lose one

[mint elbow]

Lose one?

[pastel flame]

Filtr isn't covered by claim or insurance, like other modules

So anything happens to that ship, 60k gone

[mint elbow]

Oh I see

All the other mining addons are covered?

[pastel flame]

I can pull 100% without it usually

Just ship components

But surge etc are cheap

[mint elbow]

Yea but its a pain buying them

Have to travel so far

[pastel flame]

Especially with busted terminals, lol

[mint elbow]

How rough is mining without the add ons?

If I lose them

[pastel flame]

It's fine tbh

Lancet is main thing

I only bring surge ever and I pull max quant loads in aaron halo

Have not done nearly as much as some folks in here lol

[cinder solstice]

I rented a connie to deliver my mining haul. Now I was hoping to do some commodities trade, but do I just run around at random trying to buy stuff or is there a system to it?

[pastel flame]

You can use sc trade tools to see some routes and resources, but may find it underwhelming in a Connie sized cargo

[cinder solstice]

Oh. I thought it was big 🤣

[pastel flame]

It is, sort of. But right now unless you are in a C2 or a Cat you are going to struggle to come even close to your mining income.

[cinder solstice]

Hmph.

And the added bonus is that you invest a substantial portion of your money on the chance that you dont get bugged and lose it all

[pastel flame]

Yeah. Like in my C2, running the most pricy load I can reasonably pick up due scarcity, I can take a laranite/titanium mix from Bezdek to A18 at 950kish investment for 140-180k profit

Those are super spitball numbers but roughly correct

[cinder solstice]

I struggled to sell my med supply (more than 1k units) until I got to A18. Is that normal?

Is A18 the place to sell?

[pastel flame]

If you like the idea of it, just try it anyway. Med supplies can be tough to offload.

Stims, scrap, laranite/titanium are the 3 I suggest

[cinder solstice]

Thanks for the tips! I was feeling a bit frustrating. There's supposed to be a cargo update "soon"?

[pastel flame]

Yes, the Refactor, which is a huge ? right now but exciting.

[keen slate]

Soon™️

[cinder solstice]

hehe

Are we talking weeks, months or quarters?

[pastel flame]

Nobody really knows.... between those last 2

[cinder solstice]

How dare they not cater to our every whim! Sigh

[pastel flame]

Think of Cargo in your Connie as an experience. Enjoy its versatility by doing a few bounties when you're running empty.

Check out some main routes then verge off the path a bit try something else

Cash just kind of slowly flows in but the experience is worth it

[cinder solstice]

I got Hosas yesterday on my 3rd day of SC. I'm having such a blast. I come from the ship building games and I never knew I would be this much into the sim experience

Are the refinery shop terminals not online? I wanted to buy gadgets :/

[pastel flame]

They're busted, mostly.

So it's just what's on shelves til patch

[cinder solstice]

kk ty

[eager edge]

How should I maximize profits when prospector mining quant? I mainly mine rocks with 30%+ quant.

[distant ridge]

Alright folks, I’m looking into getting a ROC and am curious which one to grab

[topaz burrow]

there's ROC and ROC-DS. The DS needs a buddy to operate the mining turret

[distant ridge]

Or otherwise you have to manually get out and do it?

[topaz burrow]

unless you drive up, leave, climb into the turret and then reverse

ya

[distant ridge]

I saw it has about 3x the cargo capacity though?

[topaz burrow]

2SCU afaik vs 0.8

[distant ridge]

Is it not worth that increase?

[topaz burrow]

but i'd pick convenience over size, you can sell at any ground mining outpost at any time

also ROCs like to die mid mining so you lose less cargo :d

can always rent two rocs they are like 5k a day

[distant ridge]

Are you able to refine the ROC stuff?

[topaz burrow]

nah, you mine minerals not ores. Those go directly to trade termnial

[distant ridge]

I see, gonna try out mining tonight in a ROC and start saving for a Prospector

[topaz burrow]

yeah I also did my first ROC session yesterday. Even though i have a prospector and a mole and whole other selection of ships. But i found it super fun and different.

But my ROC broke twice and refused to suck minerals at some point too. So be ready for SC experiance 😄

[distant ridge]

Always haha

[marble crater]

I bring 2 ROCS for that reason

[topaz burrow]

yeah i ended up renting two

5k a day is a steal lol

[marble crater]

you used to be able to go to the back of the roc and make a little storage crate with all the gems so you could at least salvage what you'd mined till that point. sucks they removed that feature

[topaz burrow]

oh

that sounds great

[vivid sorrel]

You can just shoot it, and then tractor the crate into your ship

[topaz burrow]

just need "transfer all" button

[marble crater]

there was a pretty bad exploit with the ROC crate then they got rid of it

[vivid sorrel]

^ You'd still need to manually transfer from that crate to the ship. Atleast last time that crate was not detected as a ship inventory piece

[marble crater]

that's pretty neat wasn't aware of that

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah happened when i was doing ROC mining and i didn't know the wear on the powerplant was a thing so it died

[topaz burrow]

thats a thing?

[vivid sorrel]

Yepp. Check the MFC

[marble crater]

did you shoot it with your ships gun?

[vivid sorrel]

There's a wrench i think? icon on it that increases

And repair pad don't fix it

[topaz burrow]

uhh, how often do you suggest to reclaim the ROC then?

[vivid sorrel]

Only claim

[topaz burrow]

like each time i sell?

[vivid sorrel]

IIRC when the wrench got to like 40 you should go ASAP to claim it.

[topaz burrow]

ok. I will have a look at some wrench icon thing next time. Cant say i ever noticed it

[marble crater]

I just upgraded my ROC components keen to see if it lowers wear time

[topaz burrow]

since you know few things about ROC. any general tips? my extractor broke and I couldn't suck any minerals. No matter what I did. Heard you shouldnt leave your seat when ROC is on too

[vivid sorrel]

I think (speculation) that at least for power supply it won't reduce wear time directly, BUT its possible that wear also reduces power output, like damage does, (speculation) which again means a larger powersupply is better in theory

[vivid sorrel]

For that bug i usually just hit m to retract arm, wait for audio confirm, then turn off with U. wait 5-10 sec, turn back on, and enable mining mode

If just the arm isn't movable, doublecheck you didn't hit G on mistake and enabled fixed mode, because it treats arm as gimbal

Going out of it is fine IMO, i've even gone out and picked up a hadanite manually and gone back in to "try" to fix it. YMMV 😄

[topaz burrow]

it moved alright, mining worked too. Just when I extracted it just stuck in the laser and when clicked mouse it dropped on the floor. I ended up claiming it np

[marble crater]

yeah i've gotten out a bunch to pick stuff up by hand lol

[vivid sorrel]

Aaaah...that one's a bit different, more a server thing i think? I'd just let it sit there unmovable until it scoops, even if it could take 30 sec. But it was rare that happened. And usually server crashed after that for me 😛

[marble crater]

30K in a roc is super rough

[vivid sorrel]

It's 100% BS. 😠

[marble crater]

i've only just started roc mining again as a side activity but got hit with 2 30K's so far

[topaz burrow]

guess 30k ship protection doesnt extend to ground vehicles

[marble crater]

yeah as soon as you're out of the ship there's no protection

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah, at least it never did for me

[marble crater]

had a 30K while scouting and it covered the roc at least

[topaz burrow]

thanks for the tips guys

[vivid sorrel]

Heh. It covered the ROC for me, as in it was in the ship. But no hadanite was remembered.

[topaz burrow]

I did the two ROC thing yesterday with my buddy who never played SC thought it was cool to get him started. Even with my ROC bugging out we had good fun

[marble crater]

I prefer it to Prospector mining as an activity

[topaz burrow]

but mole is buggered so cant take him in that

so I thought roc was a good alternative

sorry, reading is hard. misread your msg

[marble crater]

all g I just enjoy the whole unloading/loading process involved (+ using ships with a vehicle bay) with the roc. only real use for a ground vehicle in game right now unfortunately

[topaz burrow]

yes agreed

i bought two PTVs for dicking around too

but thats about all you can do

[marble crater]

I do miss the Mole though. sat at Lorville for all of 3.17 😦

[topaz burrow]

yeah...

i never actually used it, got it for when my buddy started in invictus and is sat there fully kitted out

[covert hornet]

What modules do you guys recommend to add to the lancet

[topaz burrow]

for aaron halo i dont use any. you can use surge/stampede to speed it up.

[covert hornet]

Alright

[marble crater]

so many combos, my personal fav was Surge, Stampede & Vaux C3 for Halo
Surge, Stampede & Optimum for Lyria

[native mulch]

prospector power issue I rented one and the shield dont work like no power going to them idk if it in stealth but i can not change any of the power setting

[topaz burrow]

have you powered the whole ship up? think U is for shields

[native mulch]

yeah seem with guns it has power but i can not used them yestaerday it said power drain but i thought that was a bug no other issues

[topaz burrow]

yeah weird. you might just need to reclaim it

[native mulch]

that what i have done

[north oyster]

I would also recommend just removing the guns and gimbals, worthless anyway

More power for the laser

Oh, rental, scratch that. Just a tip for when you buy one

[native mulch]

I can not find any quantanium at all on lyria am i missing something

[topaz burrow]

With a rental, don't bother

Hope you asked here or somewhere else what rental prospector is capable of

[rose cove]

What do I need to crack bigger rocks with my prospector. Anything over a mass of 5000 seems unbreakable.

[deep vector]

Faith

And mining modules

[rose cove]

Which though?

[lime jackal]

im using lancet MH1 with x3 Vaux-C3 Module and i can crack 5.5k quantanium rock max

[native mulch]

wave shift is what i find works best

[rose cove]

I'm runnning two Vaux C-3s except they reduce instability at the cost of power... so they make the big problem worse.

[lime jackal]

its great if you are mining quantanium

[rose cove]

Yeah tahts what I run a Lancet with 2 Vaux... and I have a high grade power generator for the ship. but I keep finding rocks I can't crack.

[lime jackal]

does power generator help

[vivid sorrel]

Nope

[lime jackal]

i found 3 40:40 quantanium, quatz rock today, but my game is acting up and extracted cargo keep reseting 😦

[vivid sorrel]

Well, eh...maybe. But only if you get half blown up, the increased power output and HP of might make your ship movable, and not dead in the water

[vivid sorrel]

If it's a prospector it is hopfully just a display bug, get it to the refinery and see if it shows up there. But there has been reports of quant just being gone, but it's still rare

[lime jackal]

ya i did that, when i try to store my ship it says i got 32 cargo but refinery still shows nothing

[vivid sorrel]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-38907

"Quantanium disappears"

Damn okay, alot more people reporting on it now then i thought

[lime jackal]

and its not just quant but all other

[vivid sorrel]

It's never happened to me, i only get the bug where it turns to inert mat in cargohold when mining, but it shows up in refinery

Well hopefully 3.17.2 fixes that too. I know they've fixed the mole cargo bug there, so it could be related just not as easily triggered.

[lime jackal]

um so mole is not minable at all now?

[vivid sorrel]

Mole is not usable in current patch

Cargo will just not be filled

[narrow condor]

Is the mole better to use than the prospector when usable? (Solo)

[topaz burrow]

dont think so, you'd need to jump from pilot to laser seat. But I know people who do and like it

[compact hemlock]

hey gang
recommendations for a ship for transporting QUANT
dont need something huge like hercules, just something that is bigger than my cutty

[topaz burrow]

didnt like the freelancer max idea?

argo raft is pretty dope too

[compact hemlock]

someone told me the MAX isnt amazing

[topaz burrow]

oh yes there's as many opinions as people in the world

[compact hemlock]

oh really

[compact hemlock]

is this what u use?

[topaz burrow]

no i dont have any dedicated cargo ships. I just use Andromeda half cargo half gunship.

[compact hemlock]

taurus?

[topaz burrow]

taurus is full cargo ship. Andromeda is less capacity more guns

[compact hemlock]

which would u go for?

[topaz burrow]

if you are just starting I'd go freelancer max 2.1mil. Then if you ever need more space save up for hercules

but ask again in maybe 3hrs or so. There should be more people to give their ideas

thats just what I think 🙂

[compact hemlock]

okay thanks

i think i might take your advice, cos the max will help me get money wuicker

[topaz burrow]

yeah with 120SCU i doubt you'd ever need more for hauling ore from rafinery

remember it's SC and things happen you dont want to lose 2mil cargo when you glitch 😄

[old badger]

yeah...I was doing regular legal hauls in a Herc and invictius event ..something bugged and 800k of cargo was never delivered to my ship

just now recovered...doing bunker missions

but I'm scared to do trade now lol

[gritty rover]

i have a question, why some people use a caterpillar instead of a c2 ?

[lime jackal]

is missing (passive) modules from reclaiming prospector intentional or its a bug?

[topaz burrow]

reclaiming removes all modules in my experience

[lime jackal]

server crashed or kicked me somehow on my first mining

[topaz burrow]

this is the way

[narrow condor]

Yolo fill up the Hercules

[north oyster]

The MAX is an excellent ship, most bitch about the view out the window like that is an issue. As for SCU, it is the most inexpensive aUEC/SCU ship out there. You get 120 SCU for 2.2M aUEC. Also she is absolutely the best (imo) ROC hauler with a wonderfully wide ramp that makes rolling-on/rolling-off a breeze. And the Hydrogen scoops on her are crazy, you will never, ever run out of fuel

[gaunt fiber]

Personal preference. The Hercules can be a bit of a pain to land, but beyond that it is a better cargo hauler than the Caterpillar in every other way.

[north oyster]

At this time the C2 flies like she has NO MASS so the thrusters are super sensitive to movement. Other than that, the C2 is a better ship for cargo than the CAT. The DRAKE fanboyz don't think so, but I lean towards the C2 over the CAT.

[wary maple]

As a MAX owner who does a lot of ROC mining, this.

[junior cape]

I just have 2.5M waiting to be spent in a RAFT, a Max or the Cutty. Been thinking about it for a week now

[compact hemlock]

im going for the MAX, ive heard good things

and i trust @topaz burrow

[topaz burrow]

uh-oh

[junior cape]

What about the RAFT and the new cargo update? Also how nice it looks

The MAX looks like a 24H dinner to me

[topaz burrow]

oh, on looks RAFT beats Freelancer for sure. But it's a maze with lifts, ladders etc. cant fit a roc either.

[north oyster]

I did but the black paint to use on the MAX, she looks really good in black

[compact hemlock]

so the MAX > Raft?

or Raft < Max

[junior cape]

In functionality, MAX > Raft

[verbal cargo]

Max > Raft until future patch where cargo loading becomes a thing

[compact hemlock]

why is Raft better for loading?

[verbal cargo]

it'll have a tractor beam to load big containers

[compact hemlock]

and the MAX wont?

wait i swear the raft only has 96 storage tho??

the max has 120 no?

[verbal cargo]

no, MAX will have to be loaded by NPC's or Mule, etc, but that is still a little ways into the future

[compact hemlock]

ill have herc by then

[rotund silo]

Has anybody else been having a hard time safely landing their prospector? Since 3.17 came out, I can't mine quant anymore, because no matter how gently I set down it blows up.

[topaz burrow]

can't say i had this issue

[rotund silo]

In 3.16 I'd only have quant blow up if I took too long, or got impatient and set down too fast. Now it's just an auto fail

Guess I'll stick with Bex and Tar

[vivid sorrel]

No problems here. But if you're having problems, try autolanding (Hold N when just above pad)

[crimson oak]

maybe the prospector is bugged, try claiming the prospector from another station so you're spawning in a brand new prospector.

[rotund silo]

Between lag spikes and CTDs during quantum, I've gone through six different prospectors just today

[pastel flame]

I love the MAX

[north oyster]

Have you check Issue Council to see if that is being experienced by others?

Or happening to other ships

[narrow condor]

What’s cargo loading?

[pastel flame]

They are physicalizing cargo soon

[vivid sorrel]

Future stuff [tm] that'll come in 3.18

[pastel flame]

A lot of imaginations at work on how that will play out for some ships, but nobody really knows.

[narrow condor]

Isn’t it pretty physicalized right now

Or the delivery process of cargo into ship

[pastel flame]

No, it's just a placeholder

[white hemlock]

As long as they don't intend to simulate RL cargo loading/unloading times. I've seen screenshots indicating as much and that would really sour the space trucker mood for me.

[scarlet rover]

I imagine there would be economy value adjustments to mitigate that, but I see what you're saying

although you could always switch to the RAFT if you want to stay on the road! : D

[white hemlock]

Yeah. Some game mechanics just shouldn't have an arbitrary wait time tacked on. Just like storing/retrieving your ships is instant.

I like the idea of the cargo taking up the physical space in the ships hold and cargo capacity being directly affected by items the player puts in the hold. That's as far as I'd take it though.

[scarlet rover]

I think there should be a wait time but it shouldn't be arbitrary. Making it take time to remove boxes from a ship and add boxes to it makes sense, and provides an advantage to designs like the RAFT's crane and the Cat's side doors. Not to mention the purpose of the MPUV-1C and SRV

if you are opposed to waiting, this probably isn't the right game (or gameloop) for you. I'm frightened for you once you visit Orison the first time...

[white hemlock]

Not going to go down that road.

[atomic horizon]

is the aaron belt good for mining

is it better than lyria?

[white hemlock]

I like it better as a solo

[scarlet rover]

All I'm saying is there are other game loops where you don't have to wait, like BH and Merc. Asking developers to change the vision for their game, as they've explained it, and users want it, just to suit your preferences seems shortsighted and misguided.

[junior cape]

Vote (R)AFT or (F)reelancer MAX. I can't just make my mind for a week now.

[rose cove]

What is a cSCU vs an SCU? A tenth?

[white hemlock]

Hundredth.

[junior cape]

A hundredth SCU

[rose cove]

So if the market for Quant is 80 ... is that cSCU?

Trying to figure out how to project profits.

[white hemlock]

Bounty hunting and Merc missions could be bloated eventually too. Imagine how "fun and immersive" it will be to have to collect ID off your targets and return them to an Advocacy building as proof to get paid.

You are right that it may get to a point where the 2-3 hours a session I have to play a video game is not enough time to complete a single task in star citizen. Some players want that. Some don't. I'm in camp 2.

[rose cove]

I mean 80 per cSCU

[junior cape]

80 SCU of quant is 8000 cSCU

[white hemlock]

Reverse that

[junior cape]

The Prospector fits 32 SCU

[junior cape]

Fixed

[rose cove]

Okay this is useful, but I mean, if a work order is producing 1000 cSCU of refined Quant... is that 1000 x 88 for profit?

[junior cape]

yes

88K profit

[rose cove]

Ok. Whelp I'm making less than I thought I was, but it's still a good day.

Didn't Quant used to be 130 or something? I thuoght it was higher than 88.

[junior cape]

So 32SCU of refined quant is 280K of profit

[rose cove]

Right. I'm tracking.

[narrow condor]

Getting 32SCU per load of quant is pretty quick and easy with advanced scanning methods

[rose cove]

I mean... I put my angle at 90 degeres most of the time and fly fast and low.

[narrow condor]

Doesn’t the instability of a Q-type rock sort of mark the % of quant

[rose cove]

I jut pulled 30 of raw in this last load but it's not my norm.

[knotty mountain]

is scanning still trash?

[narrow condor]

No

[rose cove]

Not if you narrow the scanner

[junior cape]

What refined method did you use?

[rose cove]

Ferron usually

[junior cape]

Scanning is really good

[narrow condor]

Dinyx for me

[junior cape]

Ferron should givee you a 350K profit for 32

[knotty mountain]

do you still have to go to 2 degrees to scan far?

[junior cape]

Yes, but it saves you traveling itme

[narrow condor]

Yes for 10-12km @knotty mountain

[rose cove]

My method is to fly to a random spot on Lyria, put my scanner to 90, and fly fast in any direction till I see two rocks.

[narrow condor]

Aren’t lyria rocks normally larger than the ones of the belt

[white hemlock]

In halo. 22° ping will ID all the rocks from 8000m. I think you have to be within 3000m for the same effect on Lyria rocks

[rose cove]

Not sure. Most the rocs in Lyria are 4-6000

I saw a 7000 today with 30% Quant but it was too big for me.

[narrow condor]

I was happy to see a 46% 4600 rock

I stick to The halo

[rose cove]

Saved that to desktop

[narrow condor]

That’s amazing

What modules does everyone use?

[white hemlock]

Yeah I found it a few days ago in this channel.

[narrow condor]

I use stampede and surge but I want to broaden my horizons

[junior cape]

i don't use any

[white hemlock]

None in the Halo. On Lyria, surge/stampede

[rose cove]

I used surge for the first time today not realizing what the animtion is.

Almost had a heart attack

Are all the mining stores screens blank for everyone else?

[narrow condor]

So is it normal to use none in the halo?

[junior cape]

Never had a problem

[rose cove]

I tried two different refineries with the same result. Had to go to Lorville to buy anything today.

[narrow condor]

Time to fill up the Hercules and sell my quant

[rose cove]

I must be special then

Need an escort?

[narrow condor]

No I should be all good, thanks though.

I got my friend helping me

[rose cove]

Excellent

I'm working towards buying the Herc. Just using the Connie right now.

[haughty adder]

All refinery shops are bugged this patch

[junior cape]

Taurus?

[rose cove]

Andromeda

[narrow condor]

Are you renting it

[rose cove]

No I own it

[white hemlock]

Cutty is my daily driver. I have a starfarer for cargo but its a pig to fly. C2 handles like a dream in comparison

Really want an Andromeda

[rose cove]

I absolutely love her.

I took the gmibals off two of the cassis guns so she hits like a train

[little wedge]

Hey,
I have a beginner question about mining and navigation.

Last night I could not find my way back to my ship after mining in my ROC...
Is there any kind of land navigation, or land map?

[white hemlock]

Not yet, but hopefully some day.

Do you get a compass in the ROC? Just gotta watch your heading if you do.

[verbal cargo]

you should have been able to see your ship marker on screen unless you drove significantly far away from it, like over 20km

[white hemlock]

Also ping can be used to find ships lol

[little wedge]

Yeah, it was kind of a messed up situation. lost the whole haul.

So I guess I need to rent a cutlass to place the ROc inside... At that point should I just rent the mining ship?

[verbal cargo]

i personally wouldn't rent the prospector, you will make better money with the ROC until you can buy the Prospector and modify it

[rose cove]

Thats why I say rent a Prospector if you have a friend in their optimized prospector go with you and crack rocks.

[little wedge]

Well, I play with a friend but he's no wealthier than me.
I was thinking of going to a station with my Titan Avenger, claim my rented the ROC, mine, then sell.

I just have to be carefull to not get lost

[verbal cargo]

better to rent the cutty, it will save you time from driving around scouting for gems to mine

[little wedge]

Thanks, it sounds like a plan

[rose cove]

7400 mass... not sure I can take this one. Going to try

39%

Nope. Sad. Someone come get this rock.

I managed to surge it into the green and it still fell off

[narrow condor]

Yeah you definitely need some gadgets for that

[dapper mesa]

Did you get it? 7400 is technically possible with surge and stampede, but prolly need a waveshift too

[atomic horizon]

whats the key bind to use modules?

[junior cape]

I finally went with the MAX. Thanks for participating

[rose cove]

I only had Surge. Had to give up. Sad panda.

[rose cove]

Some modules like Vaux are passive. Others you activate by looking at the panel right above your head.

[vivid sorrel]

ALT 1-3

[rose cove]

Oh. Fancy.

My way is more tactile lol

[misty coyote]

Sorry for the late.... Always park your ride close to the gems.
You don't actually need to come off the ramp much.... Just enough to leave your ship's hit box

[misty coyote]

I love my MAX, I called mine Hilda

[cerulean tree]

where you get the helmet for the heat fatsuit

doesn't come with it and can't access those terminals in miners shop

[junior cape]

What loadout do you advise?

[misty coyote]

I only just got it... So far I'm on stock.

I was thinking of added chonk shields, rather than regen.... If I get into trouble, I'm booking.... Not fighting...

For hauling, you want.... Efficiency for your bottom line, for speed hauling maybe a faster jump drive....

I've left the weapons as is, so I'm not tempted.

[agile wadi]

i have to do 7 mining runs in a roc to get enough money to get a prospecter yay

[north oyster]

Not to be a downer, but I think it's closer to 10 (if starting from scratch)

[agile wadi]

i have about 690k

so maybe a little less than 7

[north oyster]

Ah, Roger. Sounds like you are making good progress!

[cerulean tree]

anything other than aberdeen seems to spawn hadanite rarely

anyone else feel that way? was mining for hours and only got a few deposits

[agile wadi]

i mainly go to daymar but it does seem like there are rare hadanite spawns

[gentle thorn]

What’s the best cargo to do rn around Hurston

[fleet terrace]

^

[mint elbow]

about to attempt my first solo prospector runs

cant wait to mess up and blow up

[crimson oak]

best way to learn

[mint elbow]

is my ship bugged?

its mining laser and extra stuff i added on is missing

[crimson oak]

go to utility

[mint elbow]

that was empty aswell

[crimson oak]

or misc

[mint elbow]

didnt check misc

spawned my ship so il get in it and see if the stufdf works

[crimson oak]

if its bugged out id just claim it from a different station so it spawns a fresh hull

[mint elbow]

yea my ship has had its laser and all the mining stuff vanish

[shy crane]

Not a good day mining......had an 800k load to take to Area 18.....requested landing and landed twice.....pad wouldn't register my ship landing either time....on the third try I fat fingered my approach and crashed........then on my last quant run...timer went from 8 minutes to 1.....ship blew up while heading to the elevator.....can't WAIT until the next patch.....

[mint elbow]

think i just give up with mining for now

its to annoying having to spend 60-120 mins fighting bugs with it every time i log in

before i can even look at starting

[crimson oak]

its a pretty painful patch alright

hopefully things will be smoother next one

[mint elbow]

cant even buy the parts i need close to where i mine because the terminals dont work

its just so frustrating

[north oyster]

Hadanite spawns in the hottest of locations, since Aberdeen is only a degree or two cooler than Hell, it is the perfect place for hadanite.

[junior cape]

I am already regretting not saving another $1 Mill to get the Taurus

[vale oracle]

ok so i have this order complete but idk what to do now

i got really unlucky with my first 2 runs so idk if thats good

[lime nova]

You need a cargo ship to move it

or something with a cargo grid

[copper cypress]

Can someone please tell me why the rocks on Lyria are 10+ unstable after the mining laser has been put on it?

[mint elbow]

does repairing or restocking my ship give me my mining module charges back?

or do i have to buy new modules?

[dapper mesa]

What mining laser are you using? Quantanium is very unstable and requires either a lancet mining head or gadgets/ modules that reduce instability

[dapper mesa]

Have to buy new modules

[mint elbow]

thats a pain considering all the mining station terminals are bugged

whats the easiest way for me to get a ton of moduels from one station to another?

[broken harness]

what's the oxytorch attachment for?

can you cut ship doors open with it

[north oyster]

get both, I did

Prospector prints money

[copper cypress]

@dapper mesa I'm using a lancet with brandt

[mint elbow]

can i sell my refined ore at new babage

and if so where?

[north oyster]

At the Commons is the TDD

You can even land at the Commons and come in from the ramp area and sell from there if you don't want to land at the Space Port and ride the tram

[mint elbow]

you can park your ship at the commons in new babbage

😳

[north oyster]

Yes, I do it all the time

[atomic horizon]

What refining method makes THE MOST money for quant

[scarlet rover]

check pin

[hollow sedge]

Ferron

[junior cape]

True to that. Made this in the last 5 hours

[scarlet rover]

...Ferron costs more than Dinyx and gives the same yield. Go with Dinyx if you can afford to wait

[rose cedar]

if you find boxes of delivery goods outside a mission are you able to sell em?

say from crashed ship

[atomic horizon]

@scarlet rover what ship should i buy to carry my refined ore

i already have the constellation

should i just keep that?

can it carry refined ore?

[scarlet rover]

Any ship with a cargo hold can carry commodities including refined ore. What model Connie do you have?

[ionic isle]

same ? here what is best ship for doing cargo and ore

[scarlet rover]

depends what you're trying to do with it

[[cutlass black]] can hold a decent amount for a midrange ship

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Cutlass_black

[ionic isle]

i have that was looking for alot more storage

[scarlet rover]

[[caterpillar]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Caterpillar

[scarlet rover]

[[constellation taurus]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Constellation_taurus?action=edit&redlink=1

[scarlet rover]

[[hercules c2]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Hercules_c2?action=edit&redlink=1

[ionic isle]

im thinking the Cat

taking forever to get the Funds

[atomic horizon]

andromeda

[scarlet rover]

Solid. Just check the starcitizen.tools wiki to see what a ship's cargo hold is

[atomic horizon]

[[constellation andromeda]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Constellation_andromeda?action=edit&redlink=1

[atomic horizon]

[[Constellation andromeda]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Constellation_andromeda?action=edit&redlink=1

[atomic horizon]

[[Constellation Andromeda]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Constellation_Andromeda

[atomic horizon]

[[Constellation Taurus]]

[alpine orbit]

https://starcitizen.tools/Constellation_Taurus

[atomic horizon]

Taurus has alot more, but it doesnt really matter, I can just make 2 trips depending on how much refined i get

Ill probs upgrade to catapiller tho

576 scus of quant would be 4 million moneys

assuming you use dynx

which i will be using

[dapper mesa]

Would highly highly advise against transporting a full cat/c2 load of Quant. Just asking to be screwed by crash/ bug.

[marble crater]

The SC game bug gods seems to know when you have a Cat full of Quant

[atomic horizon]

what quant rocks should i mine

like what percentage is worth mining

[mint elbow]

this is roughly what you need for a full prospector

mass numbers in yellow you will need gadgets/modules to crack

[marble crater]

There's 2 approaches, search longer for high quality rocks or go for bulk orders (anything over 20%)

I tend to go for bulk

[atomic horizon]

so you just mine any quant u see?

[atomic horizon]

would this be 100% only quant for the percentages

i mean like this

[marble crater]

I tend to go for lots of quick runs. It's up to you how you want to do it

[north oyster]

Unicorns are nice but I build my wealth with fast turn around times, average between 220K to 275K aUEC per trip

[edgy furnace]

How long does a trip take you roughly?

[gaunt fiber]

anyone want to do some mining?

[north oyster]

Varies greatly. Sometimes I drop out of QT on top of a nice rock. I would say 20ish per trip, give or take 5 minutes

[edgy furnace]

Jeez that's still crazy good money

[north oyster]

Even if you stretch it to 30 min, that's still about half a mil per hour

I did two evenings, 16 runs for 3.5M aUEC

And that's a low average

[edgy furnace]

[white hemlock]

sometimes it takes me ~30min just to find a rock/group over 20%

[dapper mesa]

Yep it's pretty much just luck of the draw

[narrow condor]

After arrive at Aaron’s halo there’s no point in not doing a 360 scan then odds are you should find at least 1 q type to help you find good enough asteroids often

[mint elbow]

What are the chances the mining station terminals get fixes with the .2 patch?

[scarlet rover]

patch notes say they've fixed them

[mint elbow]

Nice have to fly across the system to buy mining models is a pain

[distant ridge]

How does everyone see the Railen at the moment?
I’m 100% excited for it based on the visuals alone, but where does it fit in actuality?
(From the info we do have, of course)

[coral raven]

is renting a roc or a prospector better to get started making aUEC? I've done ROC mining last couple nights doing hadonite and it's not bad, only ~150k in an hour tonight.

[distant ridge]

I should add I mean as a Medium Cargo/Freight ship

[distant ridge]

From my understanding, the big Prospector money comes from having a customised mining laser.
That being said I tried the ROC last night and had a terrible time so I’m not the best to give advice

[coral raven]

I've seen that in some videos, prospector needs the lancet to be a huge money maker. Just curious if doing ore / hadonite with the prospector is as good as roc mining or better.

[distant ridge]

Mining is certainly not my area of expertise, I have more experience with Bunker missions lol

[marble crater]

it look super cool & with 320 scu cargo it has no competitor in the Medium bracket. closest would be the Connie Taurus at around 170scu. Th ebig unknown is how cargo refactor will affect it's load/unload times with it's unique cargo pod system

[distant ridge]

I have been using the Connie Taurus (as the loaner for the Railen) and enjoying the cargo running stuff, but am curious about the lesser(?) weaponry on the Railen

[marble crater]

Only reason I'm not interested in the Railen is you are 100% locked in to cargo only. I prefer my haulers to be multi role (room for vehicles etc) but there's too many unknowns with cargo refactor around the corner

[distant ridge]

I fell in love with the Railen’s aesthetic so it was a pleasure buy more than anything lol

[marble crater]

hell yeah I could see many sales just from the looks alone

[distant ridge]

(Grabbed the 100i as my starter for the same reason, and the Reliant Kore as my upgrade)

[marble crater]

there was some very early days concept leaks on cargo refactor going around. if times are anywhere near that then role specific cargo ships like the Railen/Raft will have huge value regarding loading times

[distant ridge]

Man that timer looks a lil rough

Hopefully it’s not too time consuming, I mean we have like tractor beam tech and all that

[marble crater]

yeah and when you get into ships with 100's of scu it gets a little lol

but who knows how it'll be. have to wait and see

[distant ridge]

I keep seeing more of the stuff they want to do in future and it puts me off, ngl

Like the separate insurance for ship/components, and the Death of a Spaceman stuff and all that

[marble crater]

all this stuff has been in the pipeline for a long time and they haven't tried to hide it at least. it will be quite the sim experience one day

[distant ridge]

Some of it just sounds dumb imo, but as long as they’re staying transparent I can manage expectations

[marble crater]

i'm just glad they're doing Insurance and not just a perma loss anytime your ship explodes like in some games

[deep vector]

Isn’t it alien connie Taurus?

[distant ridge]

Seems to be more SCU, better shielding/handling, less firepower?
Edit: This may be based on outdated/incorrect information, as it says here that Railen has 2 S3 Shields and Taurus has 2 S2 Shields

[deep vector]

Taurus has one s3

As all connies

What’s scu count on ralien?

[distant ridge]

Yeah that’s what I remembered, too

[distant ridge]

320 SCU

According to star citizen . tools and the RSI website

The Ship Matrix on the RSI is very outdated lol

[celest creek]

is there a tool for Aaron Halo

[deep vector]

So it’s like dried up caterpillar

[distant ridge]

In terms of just SCU, maybe

It’s sexier though

[deep vector]

Doubt

Personal preference and stuff

Main things about alien ships: they feel out of place in human space

Styling

[distant ridge]

It fits my ideal aesthetic pretty much completely, or one of the 3 looks I go for with tech at least

[distant ridge]

However in The Future ™️ we won’t just be in human space, right?

[deep vector]

Yep

That’s why I said

In human space

THE FUTURE

[marble crater]

it's like an Alien Argo Raft to me. not a multi role like the Connie

only does cargo and has weird custom cargo pods

[distant ridge]

™️

They look different in a good way, imo
And I think they had said that regular “cube” SCU fit in those pods

Like they’re very big and all that

[deep vector]

[marble crater]

just hard for me to take pure cargo haulers seriously when cargo has been a bit of a joke for so long in game. looking forward to seeing how 3.18 changes that

[distant ridge]

Man, I ended up buying a full hold of Vice stuff and it took me like 4 real days to finally sell it all

[marble crater]

I loaded almost $1M worth of goods in the Herc, went outside and my ship was gone lmao

so far I have made -$2M trading

terminal at the station just had my ship in an Unknown state

[distant ridge]

Sometimes I load 174 SCU of Waste into my Connie for 1 aUEC just to feel like I’m a space trucker with no risks lol

[deep vector]

100k in 20 minutes not enough?

[marble crater]

not when you can lose $1M to bugs no

[topaz burrow]

imagine waiting 4 hours to load and 4 hours to offload for 60k profit lol

[marble crater]

need 10 successful hauls to cover 1 loss to bugs....& you'll probably get more losses in those 10 runs lol

[deep vector]

When it costs around 250-500 to load cat and you just need to understand how to chose server it’s hard to lose a lot

[deep vector]

Lold

That’s right away stupid

[marble crater]

not sure how you're making 100K off a 250K investment but sure

must be trading magic

[deep vector]

Titanium with cat gives you 80k profit. I once tested a lot of unpopular cargo like gases/ores and found out that a lot of things have similar 65-80k profits, one of those was like 270k full cat.

[marble crater]

it's around 400K to fill a Cat

done a bunch of Titanium runs

unless I'm going to the wrong spots which very well might be happening

[deep vector]

I don’t remember exact titanium price

But test other things

[marble crater]

I just use SC trade Tools but the prices vary a bit once you're there

[deep vector]

I found couple with similar profits

[deep vector]

I don’t use em, too outdated

Got burned a lot with those

[marble crater]

only trading I enjoy is 9 Tails med supplies and the glorious Audio Visual Invictus boom lol

[deep vector]

Ew

People always go for straight op shit

[marble crater]

was making $17M a run lol

[deep vector]

That’s why c2 so popular

Oh I wait how c2 gonna pop in pyro

Because literally defenseless and easy target compared even to m2

[marble crater]

Pyro will be quite interesting, go through wormhole, crash to bugs and lose everything lol

[deep vector]

Cargo refactor will make pirating finally viable

Trade runs with raft

Yesss

Refined quant to the pyro should be freaking crazy

[rain lava]

But greedy too

High risk High reward

[deep vector]

That’s why you take reinforced transports

M2>C2

Cat>c2

[rain lava]

Or you take small amount in a fast and stealth sjip

Or better armed

[deep vector]

You need fuel tank

Or just suck up to starfarer and let it jump with you)))

[rain lava]

By small I was talking about med cargo like conste

[deep vector]

Taurus goes hard

Or msr

Or freaking 400i

[rain lava]

400i if fsat

[deep vector]

400i full of drugs

[rain lava]

XD

Corsair

[deep vector]

400i fast and has enormous amounts of hydro fuel. You snare it - it runs away

[rain lava]

Bmm full of drug go stonks

[marble crater]

only 40scu though in 400i

[rain lava]

And nice turet to jsut run away

[deep vector]

You can’t properly chase 400i and msr

[rain lava]

40scu for high profit goods will be good imo

[marble crater]

hopefully

[rain lava]

400i have a big shield too

[deep vector]

Yep

[deep vector]

And three power plants

[rain lava]

Energy go brrrr

[deep vector]

Disabled one and if emp hits, reenable it

It literally can work with one powerplant

Emp recovery rate should be longer than regular startup

The pricing of same goods in pyro should be way different

Medical goods should be more expensive that gold

[rain lava]

Yep

Fuel too imo

[deep vector]

Quant especially

Because fuel is made from quant

Gases maybe too

[rain lava]

Gases?

You speak about hydrogen?

[deep vector]

There are a lot of gases in cargo

[distant ridge]

This ship reminds me of the Twilight from Star Wars and I’m all for it

[rain lava]

They just rotate it

[distant ridge]

Just like they altered the C-Wing a lil for the Scorpius and the B-Wing for the Reliant

[covert hornet]

Once I have refined my quant where do I sell it

[rain lava]

In city

Loreville a18 nb or orison

[north oyster]

If you're concerned about the ship storage issue, you can always fly up New Babbage and land at the Commons

[covert hornet]

I pulled out my Connie which had all the quantanium in it

And the doors are all broken so I can’t use it

Also my quantanium load just had 5 mins on it then it exploded can anyone explain this?

[delicate perch]

Can you mine if you only have backpack as storage only got an aruaua mr, no cargo space

[marble crater]

you can purchase a Multi Tool with a mining attachment and try some hand mining in caves. only need the tool, backpack & a ship to get you there

high chance you don't make it out alive the first time lol

[delicate perch]

Will look for some caves next time I'm on. Still trying to get used to decelerating to land on planets crashed 4 times lol

[marble crater]

in the missions menu, go to Investigation & take the Investigate missing client mission (check description to see if it's in a cave). Don't have to find the missing guy (probably won't anyway lol) but it will lead you to a cave with a HUD marker at least

[delicate perch]

@marble crater thanks for the cave locator.

[north oyster]

The Quan was refined? Refined Quantainium is stable and does not explode any more than laranite would explode.

[covert hornet]

No it was raw

[proven path]

What’s the best trade route for a c2

[north oyster]

ah, ok, the timer is an estimate

[covert hornet]

Ohhh

Ok gotcha

[north oyster]

If you go bump in the nite, then boom

[covert hornet]

If ic