industrial-professions

[north oyster]

I'd be in the thousands

NEW TIP Start taking all your Quantainium sells to the New Babbage TDD Commons. Area18 is bugging out ships, making you claim them

[marble crater]

Is ship storing working at Loreville?

[hollow sedge]

my ship just stopped moving while i was mining?

[earnest crystal]

I spent a good minute breaking an 8k perfect rock and I blew the small part of it and died

[hollow sedge]

oh i was tresspasing

[marble crater]

ooh got shot by the outpost turrets

[north oyster]

You want to change out your ROC every couple of trips. Components wear out and there isn't really a repair option.

[paper chasm]

where are some good places near microtech that buy med supplies?

[subtle forum]

hey where can I get stampede module?

[winged furnace]

Wohoo, finally managed to sell a big load of Hadenite!!!

Thanks to @north oyster and all for the help

[hollow sedge]

Where is the best area for quant mining

[viral lark]

Anyone know why extraction mode on the ROC sometimes doesn't suck stuff up?

Nevermind getting out and back in fixed it

[signal fable]

Good places to go mining?

or just anywhere to go mining?

[sage dragon]

I've heard Lyria is good for quant mining. Aswell as Aaron Halo asteroid belt, which is where I mine. It's a belt that goes around the whole system.

uh for ship mining that is. For ROC mining I've heard Aberdeen

[vivid sorrel]

It can sometimes just stop. Sometimes it's the server and sometimes it's just the ROC. Turning it off and on again helps for last part. Server issue...will either resolve by itself or dc you, heh.

[viral lark]

Where are you based around and what are you mining with? There are pretty good places to ROC mine scattered about

[vivid sorrel]

That feeling when your patch of 10 Quant has come up...9/10 horrible....scanning the last one...and it was good 🙂

[serene furnace]

what ores should I mine for with my roc ds on daymar?

[vivid sorrel]

Hadanite

[serene furnace]

ty

Port olisar for sale?

[vivid sorrel]

You can sell the hadanite at a mining outpost's trade terminal

Or at a space stations admin terminal

[serene furnace]

ty

Been a minute since I've played

[outer tree]

Late to the reply but thanks for the answers guys :)

[serene furnace]

how do I scan with my ship again

[viral lark]

Scan Mode (default keybind is V), then hold down left click as your cursor is over the thing you want to scan

[serene furnace]

ty

wait is that for minerals or ships

nvm got it

[misty coyote]

Are Hauling missions in the game?

[viral lark]

Besides delivery missions no

[misty coyote]

Is there plans to?

[vivid sorrel]

Star Citizen have "plans" for lots of stuff, but what they will be and when, who knows.

[sage dragon]

What do you mean with hauling missions if I may ask? (Just curious) Like.. say..a mission that is like: "We need 100 SCU of X" and you buy it, or collect it for free? and deliver to them?

[lavish wharf]

Is it normal when we try to scan an asteroid on Aaron's halo, the roid is empty ?

[vivid sorrel]

Yes, many are bugged in halo atm

If you don't get a type on it, and it's not server lag, skip it

[blazing cedar]

I'd totally be a space trucker if these were a thing

[misty coyote]

Yes, or "We have X SCU of unpurchasable commodity to be delivered here."

[blazing cedar]

Missions like that would give small cargo ships like the Titan an actual purpose

[misty coyote]

Exactly..... Low level hauling that takes 3 SCU

[uneven jacinth]

hey lads, so i have a prospector with lancet head, what should i buy to be able to break rock heavier than 5000?

[sage dragon]

Would be lots of fun to do cargo missions with smaller ships yeah, now all that cargo space is good for is space to place boxes, or small ground vehicles

[lavish wharf]

Ty !

[blazing cedar]

Would allow you to actually make a career as a freighter pilot too

[rugged axle]

@uneven jacinth surge module, stampede module, possibly a vox module. Then maybe bring a couple gadgets as well(depending just how much bigger you want to crack).

[uneven jacinth]

I heard that modules would disappear if i crash my ship?

[rugged axle]

That's correct. Anytime you have to claim the prospector, modules disappear. But without modules, you won't crack anything higher than around 5300 mass

[uneven jacinth]

ugh

[rugged axle]

Personally, just mine the halo at some point. And your good with JUST the lancet head. A surge helps for speed, but not required.

I run lancet, surge, and 2 fltr xls for halo

For lyria I run lancet head, surge, stampede, and 1 fltr xl.

Unless I have a buddy in a 2nd prosp, then I run the usual

[uneven jacinth]

wait so even if i claim the ship from another station the modules disappear?

[rugged axle]

Yes

[uneven jacinth]

dayum

[rugged axle]

I've lost 300k from accidently claiming it(its directly on top of my Connie in the asop terminal). Fltr xls are like 65k each

[uneven jacinth]

oh

hm

ok...thx for the info

i might consider the modules after i get more fluent with mining then

[rugged axle]

The halo, won't spawn rocks higher than 5200ish. Which is why I prefer it

[uneven jacinth]

oh thats neat

where is it again

[rugged axle]

360* around the map lol. It depends where you want to "base" out of. I've moved to arc l1. I don't remember the distances, but you qt towards hurston, and cancel qt at a certain distance depending on which band of the belt you want to try. You can Google maps of it.

Or maybe someone has it here?

[uneven jacinth]

oh so it's the astroid belt

[rugged axle]

Yea. Known as Aaron's halo

[uneven jacinth]

ah ok

that's new to me

[rugged axle]

If you wanna add me. I'll be on and mining late tonight. Can show you a few things. Group of friends are going group mining around 9pm est tonight, but will mainly be focused on lyria

[uneven jacinth]

oh cool! I'll add you later

[static saffron]

Do we know if a ROC/ROC-DS will fit in a Corsair?

[toxic citrus]

Yes

It will

[static saffron]

\o/ Thank you, I figured as much but i did see someone say yesterday that they would not.

[crude tiger]

So im having problems picking up my refinery order. Ive tried with ship stored, and with ship on pad. But the select location drop down wont display anything to transfer the order to. Any thoughts. Im using a rented cutlass black. Thanks folks

[toxic citrus]

Do you have any other cargo on it?

[crude tiger]

None. And its two completed orders out of five. Only totaling 15 scu

[toxic citrus]

Try simply relogging with the cutty stored

[crude tiger]

Thank you. Ill try and report back

I went back to store cutlass and it shows at another station and it retrieved my prospector. Strange, but thats why it wouldnt work

[tame shore]

whats a stable thing to ship mine for a first timer that will get some money

[scarlet rover]

https://uexcorp.space/mining

[vivid sorrel]

Mining with what?

[tame shore]

prospector

[vivid sorrel]

Rented or bought?

[vestal cargo]

Looking to hire a mining scout. Starting rate is 20k for every rock you find with 20% quantanium or more, paid upon verification. You will also be asked to act as a quantum beacon for larger deposits (extra will be paid for your time). Join Mining Goons VC for more info.

[deep vector]

20к for rocks starting from 100+k? Bruh

[worn dock]

I am having the absolute worst luck mining in Aberdeen lately. I don't know what I'm doing different from before. Maybe it's just too popular now, but I rarely see anyone in scanner range

[little sinew]

What mods do you use for quant mining

[vestal cargo]

using lancet mh-1, fltr-l, and surge

[little sinew]

Where do you mine

Lyria or the belt

[vestal cargo]

belt

[north oyster]

You did all the work, I'm glad I could provide some useful information!! Congratulations!!

[north oyster]

Try a different area, I always work the north pole to say in the daylight, because the nights are the blackest pitch dark I have ever seen in a game. However, other areas even at night with the ping you can always keep a read on the landscape.

[worn dock]

yeah I need to take the time and find OM1 and land from there I think

I may have been looking in terrain that was too flat lately as well'

[north oyster]

Are you comfortable with the small deposit characteristics as it relates to the ping? That they only show up within 2200 meters (or closer) and give a continuous return as you approach the deposit?

[worn dock]

I've been noticing more of that this weekend.

sometimes I have the worst time getting the mining sensor to work - the V sensor

and end up zooming in visually

[north oyster]

that's a 20% commission to do nothing but hunt, not a terrible deal (not the best but not bad)

[north oyster]

thinking mainly the ping echos, yeah, the scan is trash for the most part.

[north oyster]

you can use (resistance or stability, I can't recall?) reading, Hadanite is always between 1.01 to 1.99. Dolvine is above 2 and Aphonine(spell) is below 1.

[scarlet rover]

you know how to decrease the angle to get greater range and fidelity on the scan/ping, right?

[north oyster]

that normally isn't needed for ROC mining. I just keep mine at 179 the whole time

[worn dock]

that's the reason I'm using the scan, so I don't have to get out in the sandstorm to ID it

yeah I keep the main sensor at 179 degrees

[north oyster]

I always use visual anyway. I hope to try the readings next time to see if that will work in my case

[worn dock]

It's been 100% reliable for me. Over 1.0 and under 2.0

would probably work better on Daymar, if the sandstorms on Aberdeen is causing noise

[north oyster]

I wonder if the north pole region doesn't have as many storms because I can't recall it ever being bad. I've been working OM-1 for about 2 years now

Or, rather, since the ROC came out. I use to use on MicroTech because it was 100% hadanite at one time. That was awesome

[worn dock]

dang

[north oyster]

Long ways to drop down from the orbital marker though on a planet. WAY further actually

[worn dock]

yeah I've only tried Daymar and Aberdeen

[north oyster]

those are the only real two spots in Stanton. MT is no longer all hadanite

nowhere is actually

[last maple]

Hello guys, does MOLE still have the extraction bug?

[thorny plaza]

unless they fixed it in the last day or two

yes

[scarlet rover]

Yes they said the fix will be in the next patch.

[earnest crystal]

Did they mention anything about making the refinery shops work ?

[vivid sorrel]

It's also fixed, but not in live

[north oyster]

They are letting the dumpster fire just burn and are promising 3.17.2 will solve world hunger. So it'll be the end of this month before anything changes

[crude tiger]

How many refinery orders can I have going at one station? Is there even a limit?

[vestal cargo]

no limit, as many as you want

[serene quest]

anyone know a fix to when your mining mode won't scan at range?

[river cove]

is trading good ?

[serene quest]

8stack and only one worth cracking

[covert crypt]

whats the best place for roc mining atm?

[river cove]

Aber

[sage dragon]

deen

[river cove]

lolz sorry I'm landing

[covert crypt]

thx

[serene quest]

I really wish the galaxy map would show atmospheric details for the planets/moons

I wonder if they're going to make a particular ship or the tractor beam on ships able to move asteroids

would be nice to move asteroid chunks after they're broken

[sage dragon]

wish we could just shoot at the unwanted chunks to push them away

[hybrid birch]

Are thes boxes from a wreckage claim worth anything? If yes where can I sell them? (Not meaning the 1scu Box)

[viral lark]

Not worth much, looks like hydrogen and corundum to me? You can sell them at most admin terminals

Each box is 12 units, so you're looking at maybe 1-2k

[hybrid birch]

Thank you very much

[worn dock]

First good hadanite run in forever, and the ROC gets the extractor bug.

Then I get the "hand in front of my face" bug after picking up all the hadanite

going to park off the pad at Anderson and bed log and see if the hand bug clears

can we get 1SCU crates off wrecks?

the crashed Cats?

guess I'm in the wrong channel for that question sorry!

[vivid sorrel]

Extractor bug is usually just turn off mining mode, turn off ROC, wait a few secs, then turn on ROC and mining mode again.

The hand thing...i had that once, but i can't for the life of me recall what i did...probably died 😛

[river cove]

ok wtf I qt in aberdeen in a site in the light side but still dark...............cant get in the light side of the planet 😦

[worn dock]

Go up to OM1, then back down to the surface

OM 1 is always on the daylight side of a moon/planet

[worn dock]

oh shoot. Thanks!

[serene quest]

wtf is going on with kiosks in refineries? i haven't been able to buy a single fucking gadget in weeks

[river cove]

ok so I have the env armor but didn t work well with the armor can I use any undersuits or have to be env too?

[north oyster]

No limits like others mentioned (I have 16 pending now) BUT if there is a new patch dropping, that will wipe any refinery jobs you have. Not an issue right now but when they great ready for 3.17.2 to drop at the end of the month, you will want to clear out all refinery jobs and take them to the TDD

[shrewd bone]

aight folks, question for yall... im new to mining too so bear with me lol. the last two times ive mined quant, i dock, ship beeps at me saying "dangerous material" (or whatever), i store the ship, go to refinery and it says i have no quant. just the scraps i mined with it. maybe the quant is the inert materials but it still wont lemme refine it. am i doing something wrong orrrr...?

[north oyster]

Like Bacon mentioned, around every planet & moon are orbital markers. The OM-1 marker is at the north axis of the planet (or moon). Under OM-1 is always daylight. Aberdeen has the darkest nights of any planet in the system.

[north oyster]

If you only had Inert, then you did Stow the ship in time

[river cove]

@north oysterthanks

[north oyster]

I know you may already know this, but I would recommend

1. Set your QT point back to the Legrange point you are using (CRU-L1 or ARC-L1 normally).
2. Crack the rock down to purple, ready to scoop
3. Scoop and run, you already have the QT ready so jump as soon as you can.
   For me, I never hear the alarm because I am on the pad and have the ship stowed before the first beep.

[shrewd bone]

doesnt it explode in 14mins?

cause im back b4 then and it only starts beeping when i land

[river cove]

@shrewd boneif you open the mining mode u see the countdown on the right the beep is start a 7 minutes

[shrewd bone]

so when the beeps start, i have 7mins left until it goes kaboom and i lose it?

[river cove]

once you store it the count shuold stop

[shrewd bone]

ok yeah i did that

and the quant still wasnt there

google says that this is a common bug...?

[hazy flare]

Sorry noob question but do you need a mining ship to transport quant? Or can you do it with any ship that has cargo space?

[sage dragon]

refined quant you mean? You need a cargo ship for that

[hazy flare]

Seen a couple contracts where it’s salvaging some from a wreck, it says it volatile so assuming it means unrefined? Not at my pc rn but will get a screenshot later

[sage dragon]

oh I don't think it's quant.. or maybe it is.. anyways, in those salvage missions you pick up boxes, so you need interior to put the boxes on the floor

[hazy flare]

Probably not, I might be remembering it wrong. Thanks for your help

[sage dragon]

It might be quant, I might be wrong, have only done that mission like once, long time ago. But it's a box delivery mission from what I remember, so just any ship with interior

[deft dome]

Those salvage missions are three boxes of "something" that has a timer on it. It isnt quantanium and you will need normal storage like you do for other delivery missions but there is a timer and when they blow up you will fail the mission.

[junior edge]

1.3/5.5 mil so far done

[serene quest]

anywhere on Aberdeen I should head towards for some ROC mining?

[marble crater]

somewhere flat lol

[serene quest]

lol

[marble crater]

not sure about specific spots I have been going to Arial and the gems seem to be everywhere

pick a bearing, spam ping and look for signals that pop up at 4km or less

[serene quest]

IS there anywhere on Aberdeen to summon a RoC?

[slender trellis]

Is CRU-L5 actually the only place to offload all this SLAM i stupidly bought?

[quasi current]

did they fix the mining monitors?

[north oyster]

two places you can retrieve the ROC, Norgaard and Anderson

[north oyster]

No, refinery store kiosk are still blank

Or are you talking about the MOLE?

[north oyster]

CRU-L4 Shallow Fields Station also

[slender trellis]

ty

[north oyster]

L4 buys way more than L5

[slender trellis]

damn. I have wasted so much time at L5

[north oyster]

However, vice isn't in a good place, it's the worst aspect of trade

[slender trellis]

figures. i was going purely off profit %

[north oyster]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/SLAM

[slender trellis]

wait, i saw L4 buys but it shows the price way lower

is it accurate on trade.tools?

[north oyster]

Trade tools only pulls what the CIG servers show. So it doesn't have any updates. L5 only buys 20 units per minute, L4 buys 2000 units per minute

[slender trellis]

going to check it out. I'm willing to cut my losses at this point anyways. Thanks for the help.

[north oyster]

I think they have that spot just to offload because of how bad vice is. It's pretty sad though that it 36/unit instead of 186/unit

[blissful flume]

Anyone made serious profit from trading?

[slender trellis]

any recommendations on what to trade? I was doing gold from HDMS Anderson to Lorville but it got boring..

[north kite]

talking to a friend and this happened

[thin escarp]

@shrewd bone were you ina mole

[river cove]

ok wierd I still can use some ships from invictus

and have a tank in the A2

oh well

@north kiteHolly shit was close

[white hemlock]

Ive been lucky a few times and found a good rock or cluster to fill my prospector in under 5 minutes from jumping in.
But MOST of the time it takes me about half an hour to find a good rock. Is this normal?

IVe only been mining a few days

[river cove]

@white hemlockyes even longer sometime if that the case I change server log off in my bed

[white hemlock]

yuck.

[river cove]

@white hemlockI just got a 29.5 scu with in 20 min

Ill get back out as soon is in raf

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 30K

😭 😭 😭

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS I log back in and it still there yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[deep vector]

That rollercoaster of emotions, classic

[shrewd bone]

prospector

[real yew]

Does anyone know if the 1SCU boxes created from destroying ships can be picked up by the Drake Mule?

[topaz burrow]

they cant

[real yew]

can it pick up any boxes at all right now?

[topaz burrow]

nope

[viral lark]

I don't think that'll be a thing until they add the new cargo management system

[topaz burrow]

just a cute useless land vehicle

[viral lark]

Hey you can put 6 mini boxes on the sides!

[real yew]

that's what I was thinking

so basically just as an LTI token right now

[abstract citrus]

cargo running still too risky to do?

[viral lark]

Risky in what way?

Cargo's not optimal by if I'm going somewhere I still haul cargo with me if it's an option

Especially if I do delivery contracts

Is there anyway to keep the airlock door on the Hull A open?

[abstract citrus]

game crashing and 30k meaning you lose your cargo and money

[viral lark]

Oh yeah that's happened to me, but I feel like that's true for any gameplay loop right now. I don't experience crashes that often now though

[topaz burrow]

uhh just had absolute worst time mining. Yesterday made nearly 1.8m in quant. Today, after 2 hours didnt find a single rock over 2%. Had to give up, will try again later

[lime coral]

bro ill take that bro hahaha i only got 70k hahahaha

[topaz burrow]

Ya just a bad day! Sometimes you win sometimes you lose :)

[lime coral]

ayyyyyyy at least you got 1.8 mill i dont your lucky asf hahahaha

[high wren]

been struggling last few days to find high % quant rocks. tons of 2% even up to 20% but can't seem to come across the 35% or greater rocks i was a week ago. gonna go back to lyria. the halo just not producing for me like it use to

[deep vector]

Which band?

[sage dragon]

AC/DC

[high wren]

@deep vector Aaron Halo. usually go from wide forest to cru L4. about 14 mill out

[deep vector]

Try band 5, most dense

[high wren]

@deep vector will give that a go after work tonight. i'm also considering getting a roc. I bought a max and Pretty sure it can fit. been only mining in space or quant on lyria but looking to more cash making experiences

https://preview.redd.it/yorctmpt2e381.png?width=364&format=png&auto=webp&s=62d5cbeddb343415d343970cde0f5e5ea6d1d002

was close , need to go a lil further lol

[sage dragon]

is there a picture like this for more stations? As I go from Everus/HurL1/HurL2 to Arc L1

[high wren]

yep , one sec

http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

@sage dragon the wide forest one at arc l1 is good since it has refinery and is close so transporting quant can be quick. nice since you only have 15 min

[sage dragon]

yea, arcl1 is really close to the belt

[tight latch]

Is there a refinery on lorville anymore

[graceful river]

its a glitch i have the same thing

i think mine is just stuck there

[sage dragon]

refineries are on L1 stations, + HUR L2

[tight latch]

Why are they only in space

Well thanks I saw a video that showed refinery terminals inches admin office lorville and got excited

[white hemlock]

I'm starting to think that searching in pairs is the way to go. Often when I finally find a good rock group, its more than enough to fill 2 prospectors

[dark idol]

hey guys so im sort of new to mining and all that, so is all i need to do is use the pros and mine and then take it to a mining place and refine the materials, wait and then take it a proper trading place and sell it?

[sage dragon]

yea, take it to a L1 station (or HUR L2) and refine. Then you need a cargo ship to take it to Lorville/Area18/NB/Orison to sell it

[dark idol]

whats the best minerals i should be mining cause i just did my first run with a rented pros and its looking like its gonna give me like 10k refined

is the strat you just hold a bunch and then take it all in one go

[sage dragon]

Was gonna say Quantanium but with a rented pros idk if it's possible..

[dark idol]

how much does quant give me?

[tight latch]

I mine whatever u can get hold off

[sage dragon]

Quant is more than twice as valuable as the next best material

[dark idol]

what planet should i be mining on?

[tight latch]

Yea it's extremely rare

Roads if you want you could go for titanium it's pretty good all round

[dark idol]

ok ill give ill give it a try

feel like this is gonna be a long process

[tight latch]

It is
I'm trying to start my own mining clan so

[subtle forum]

hey guys where can I get stampede since terminals are fucked?

[sturdy whale]

where do i buy a drill or sum to mine?

[sage dragon]

hand drill?

[tight latch]

Refineries

@dark idol
If you want to mine with someone you could join my group it just me and one other but hopefully one day

[sturdy whale]

whatever tool u use to mine

[sage dragon]

there's hand mining, ground vehicle mining, and ship mining

[sturdy whale]

oh. what would be the most efficient

[stark sun]

Should i buy a MOLE or is it still buggy?

[sage dragon]

I think most efficient is prospector.. but that ship costs about 2 mil ingame so it's a high starting price

[stark sun]

ok ty

[sage dragon]

the ROC (ground vehicle) is like 180k I think, but requires a ship that can carry it

[sage dragon]

the mole is still bugged

[stark sun]

yeah i have a ROC but it take too long to get it in and out of the ship and then sometimes it gets stuck, too much of a pain

[sage dragon]

yea it was mostly an answer to isaiah

[sturdy whale]

so hand drill for now? im broke asab

[sage dragon]

Yea, the greycat multitool, with mining attachment(!), then you find a mission in a cave, be it a rescue mission or a bounty mission, then you can mine in that cave. I believe in the bounty missions in caves, the enemies has gems on them that can be sold for quite a bit, never tried it myself though

[sturdy whale]

i buy the tool at spawn right?

[sage dragon]

there are lot of places that sell it. Where are you now?

[sturdy whale]

new babbage

[sage dragon]

I think Shubin Interstellar can have those?

it's a mining shop

[sturdy whale]

heading there now

what is the mining attachment?

or is there only 1

[sage dragon]

the mining tool is called like greycat multitool, then there are several attachments to it, you need the mining one

[tight latch]

?
Would it be cool if there was a service for storing resources like ore so you can store it in the space station

[sage dragon]

what for?

[tight latch]

well for one so you can grind easier without having to go inside to refine everytime

[vivid sorrel]

Connect a tube to your prospector and suck it all out, docked at a special ore tower thing? 😄

[sage dragon]

oh, like go back to station, land on pad, unload into station storage, and then fly off again?

[tight latch]

Yeah

[sage dragon]

that would be cool

[tight latch]

But it's all meant to be Manuel

Instead of a tube that bit more like you just drop your ore bags and you just move them into the garage or whatever like a door opens up and you have to push them in their manual oil and get there manually picked up the boxes and moved them into the garage or something

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah...and they really should change how ore sorting is done. I mean, just having the ship not able to sort the ore as it's gathered i can sorta get. Almost. On a good day 😛

I get it from a balance perspective, but it's just so low tech it's stupid IMO

[sage dragon]

it's a vacuum cleaner, sucks up everything 😛

[tight latch]

You u take off you big tote box things and use anti grav carts or forklift to move to storage

[vivid sorrel]

That's fine! But, since you can detect what is what in % you should be able to sort it internally too!

Jettison the chaff

[sage dragon]

hmm... idk... it looks like just normal bags

[vivid sorrel]

https://www.mogroup.com/insights/blog/mining-and-metals/ore-sorting-the-road-to-optimizing-your-operation/

"Sensor-based sorting has been around since the 1970’s."

1970s!!!!

[sage dragon]

yea but doesn't look like that's on the ship :p

but yes, it SHOULD have that

[abstract citrus]

Any way to fix the blank screens at the L1 stations?

[vivid sorrel]

Nope, you need to go planetside

!itemfinder

[sage dragon]

in refinery?

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[young wren]

The solution is simple, we need limpets

[tight latch]

Mining clan

I think the mole bugg should be priority fix

[vivid sorrel]

It's fixed, just not in live, as they for some reason don't do hotfixes

So earliest would be 3.17.2...hopefully sometime this month.

[high wren]

mole bug and space station mining terminals (for modules etc) top priority 👍

[vivid sorrel]

Terminals also fixed, but again, not in live.

[high wren]

i hope it actually makes it out in june.

[north oyster]

MOLE will be broke until 3.17.2 drops

[north oyster]

Retail Prospector is a great trainer but very limited in what you can earn and mine. Focus on Volume for now while you have the rental. There are a number of good videos on making a profit with a rental.

[high wren]

i went for the concierge starter pack, bought a mole, prospector, freelancer max, constellation andromeda and aegis gladius. gives me all the tools i need to mine and transport it to refinery and market. the connie was for fun, but after each wipe i can get on the money wagon pretty quick with the other ships

[rugged axle]

does anyone have the map of the halo? the one that shows where to start, where to qt, and where to drop out of qt, with all the bands? i saw it on google the other day but cant find it again

[rugged axle]

nice, thank you

[north oyster]

I built my fleet around that concept. Piece milled together but the exact same idea. I have a ROC, Taurus, C2, Prospector as my core. I couldn't turn down the $10 CCU from the MAX to the Taurus. So I normally buy a MAX first thing because it makes the best ROC escort in the game (imo)

I went with the Liberator for mini-carrier, also the Vulcan and Expanse for more industry working

[high wren]

took me 3 years to get there but I agree, that fleet will make money to get the other ships

my gladius is for dealing with pirates lol

[north oyster]

Keep CornerStone on your quick dial for all things SC info. They are a great site. Be sure to check out finder.cstone.space for finding anything in the game.

[rugged axle]

yea i have the item finder and erkul saved lol

[north oyster]

Same, I wanted to be able to come straight out of the gate and restore my wallet as soon as possible. This last wipe allowed me to test the concept and it works great (except the ROC function, which now has been restored)

In fact I was frustrated with all the extra aUEC they gave us for the Xeno Threat. I wanted to start from the true aUEC starting point.

[high wren]

i just got the max so i could transport my quant but actually might try some cargo runs with it

[north oyster]

I love the MAX, I did have to get a black livery because that orange isn't my style. LOL

[vivid sorrel]

such heresy!

[worn dock]

What is everyone seeing as far as the time it takes to fill a ROC in Aberdeen?

[vivid sorrel]

Been weeks since i tried during hell week (freefly) But i don't really time it, because it's so RNG.

[last maple]

Brave man to get out of your seat in QT

[deep vector]

Why?

[vivid sorrel]

Because SC, you never know what can happen.

[last maple]

It's one server desync moment away from being lost in deep space

One day we can be sure, I hope

[worn dock]

Didn't know you could get out of your seat during a jump

read somewhere about everyone on board needing a seat for QT

[vivid sorrel]

Well if you are in a C2, do not use elevator during QT, or you'll get yeeted into space while your ship happily carries on

[marble crater]

the game is pretty loose with what you can do lol

[deep vector]

That’s risky tbh

[cerulean lichen]

Trying to roc mine lately and I have been having 30k so frequently. I really hope they give protections to the ROC for stuff like this.

That or I need to sell my roc haul when I’m halfway full instead of trying to get it full and risking a 30k

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah i'm sad to hear ROC mining is still fucked...i'd have thought it got better after freefly?

But i do recommend selling at half load, if that's the case.

[marble crater]

Been roc mining a few times with no real problems. Just set yourself a time limit (say 30-40 minutes) & sell whatever you've got, reclaim ROC & head back out.

Would be nice if 30k protection included the roc

[worn dock]

That's just asking for trouble

[serene quest]

can I sell RoC minables to any of the mining outposts, or do I have to go to a city like for ore?

[worn dock]

sell it at the mining posts

[serene quest]

tyvm

[worn dock]

I summon the ROC at Anderson or Norgaard in Aberdeen, the when it's full, sell it there and resummon the ROC because it can get bugged after an hour or tow

[thorny pendant]

feels good

[serene quest]

so many crashes to desktop the last few days

[north oyster]

ROC is in the best place it's been since it got destroyed with 3.14 ... but like you mention, sell often. With 3.17.2 if the promise of a more stable patch comes true ROC mining will be premium

[north oyster]

congratulations on the Almost Unicorn (by 0.01 scu)

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah, i don't trust CIG that much. We'll see what they deliver.

[north oyster]

absolutely no comms on the upcoming 3.17.2 and also the 3.18 testing. Normal for the 3.18, just a little confused about the 3.17.2 silence. They do have the new testing system what can simulate hundreds of players at a time. Maybe that's why

[stark sun]

what laser should i use to mine hadanite

[north oyster]

The ROC is all inclusive package. At this time there is no laser upgrade for it

You can upgrade the cooler and the main engines

[stark sun]

for the prospecter?

[north oyster]

Oh, you asked about hadanite. Ok, for Quantainium, you need the Lancet

[stark sun]

Can i not mine hadinite with the prospecter?

[north oyster]

You can crack the deposits but then you have to get out and pick up each gem

[thorny pendant]

lmao yeah

[north oyster]

I'd be a billionaire if we could mine Hadanite with the Prospector effectively

[stark sun]

Could i use an impact for Quantainium or is it too powerful

[north oyster]

The issue isn't power because the Lancet is the weakest laser out there, the issue is the buffs and debuffs of the laser. The Lancet is suppose to be just a support laser but now it is the meta for mining. The 20k laser beats the 108k aUEC Most powerful laser called the Helix

[stark sun]

so would the impact work, cause i already have 1 and would rather not buy another 1?

[north oyster]

No, because the Impact lacks stabilization properties to effectively mine Quantainium. You can mine everything else with no problem (except size limit)

[stark sun]

where can i buy a lancet

[north oyster]

Let me double check ... (btw finder.cstone.space is a great website)

[stark sun]

ty

[north oyster]

First of all, do not go the refinery store to buy it. Those are broke

[stark sun]

do i get the mh2 or mh1

[north oyster]

MH1

Prospector is size 1, the MOLE is size 2

[stark sun]

ok

[north oyster]

Port Olisar with Dumper's Depoe might be easiest to get in and out of. I hate Lorville but Tamany&Sons is an option. Then there is Subin in New Babbage if you're already near there

If you have a rental you can not change the laser head

[worn dock]

can the Prospector hold a ROC?

If so, bring a buddy to hoover the gems

[jaunty laurel]

The prospector can barely hold you

[north oyster]

Prospector only holds raw ore, you can't even use it to deliver refined ore to the market

Very dedicated to one specific thing

[worn dock]

oh wow

[north oyster]

something is up on the servers, Status is reporting issues
https://status.robertsspaceindustries.com/

[worn dock]

oh shoot. I guess that explains the "rent a cargo ship" thing I keep seeing

[north oyster]

LOL, yep, that's a rude awakening for many aspiring new miners

[worn dock]

me included!

Holy moley

[north oyster]

you can rent the cutty, it can only take one job at a time, but it pays for itself

I have 16 jobs to take to market, fortunately I have a larger ship (MAX) to take several refinery jobs at a time

PRO TIP never put all your eggs in one basket

I would also suggest going to New Babbage and landing outside of the Commons and selling at the TDD from there.

[jagged seal]

anyone managed to find a workaround for the mole?

[north oyster]

3.17.2 will be the workaround unfortunately

[jagged seal]

for getting to mole itself to be usable

alright, thanks mate!

[north oyster]

There was so much wrong with 3.17.1 that they couldn't possibly do hot patches to address all the issues. So they left the dumpster fire burning and will bring a (CLAIMED TO BE) stable patch with these issues resolved.

[worn dock]

Doubt many pirates will be waiting in MT orbit

[north oyster]

If any pirates, they would only be NPC pirates

They tend to spawn right where you are

[thorn spindle]

Anyone know where a man can find construction materials souvenirs and Helium at? According to the in game price alert those are some hot items

I checked sc trade tools for em but had no luck

[blissful flume]

Any real money method for trading?

[proven thicket]

hi guys, new player with a question for trading

when i check the fleetyards website for trading, and see like an item with a 4.09 credits per unit profit for example

if i take a freelancer max and load it all up

with 120scu

thats nearly 490k profit

am i thinking this all wrong?

[sage dragon]

ehm, you need to first buy cargo, then sell it

[white hemlock]

The trick is, that you would likely need to spend several Million to make a few hundred thousand.

[sage dragon]

4.09 x 120 is 490k, so you buy it for 490k, then a place might buy it for.. 5 credits? which is 600k, so your profit is 110k, while risking 490k

Trading is not the best way to make money right now.. sadly..

[fierce plume]

how do I avoid storms on clio

[toxic citrus]

You don't

Unless you want to wait

[fierce plume]

isnt there any indicator or where the weather is good

[toxic citrus]

Nope

[fierce plume]

is tehre a way to tell how high up you are

I have what looks to be ALT, but it only read 94703 ever

[toxic citrus]

Not right now, altimeter is broken

You can always use the scanning ping to see how far you are from the surface

Just don't go at the planet at mach 3 and ur fine

[fierce plume]

are there plans to remove these storms

[toxic citrus]

No lmfao

[fierce plume]

why not?

do they think the storms are fun?

[toxic citrus]

They look good imo

Barely any effect

[fierce plume]

?

[toxic citrus]

Barely any effect on flying

[fierce plume]

it flips my ship upside down

[toxic citrus]

I don't see a reason to remove them

[fierce plume]

blows me away from the minerals faster than I can move to the mineral

wtf do you mean barely any effect

[toxic citrus]

I can fly and hover just fine in a storm

[fierce plume]

bullshit

not in a prospector

not in a storm in this game

[toxic citrus]

Using vtol?

[fierce plume]

does it matt3er

it blowing me away even if not vtol aimed at it

[toxic citrus]

Yes, easier to hover usually

[fierce plume]

how can you be oblivious to this

and it can throw my ship around willy nilly

[toxic citrus]

New to me, never had an effect to me

[fierce plume]

I can park my ship on the ground, engines off, it will flip my ship up into the air and across the map

[toxic citrus]

Yeah, there's nothing to lock it on to

I always hover when mining lol

[fierce plume]

I dont think it is useful to talk to you. you just make me mad

"I just hover"

[toxic citrus]

[fierce plume]

bullshit

[toxic citrus]

You do you

[fierce plume]

I have been waiting 45 minutes for this storm to end

[shell acorn]

So close to perfection 🥲

[toxic citrus]

Best advice I can give is just mine it and head to a different side of Clio after that.

They do not end quickly

[north kite]

Why would they remove storms?

is it the government reenacting a thunderstorm or tornado irl?

ofcourse it's hard to mine in a storm, dont do it

your in a spaceship, head to another part of the planet

yo somebody remind me next time flordia has a hurricane, I think thats prime time to get some coastal mining done

[eager edge]

Is it worth mining 37.89% Tungsten Ore?

[toxic citrus]

No

[eager edge]

Okay

[pastel flame]

It's not impossible that guy is just tilted and being super rude

[toxic citrus]

I should consider my words more often

[pastel flame]

lol not you

[north oyster]

isn't sad that the price alert doesn't seem to update to the demand as it actually is in the game.

[north oyster]

Almost a unicorn

[north oyster]

That would be worth 12,800 aUEC refined. Not worth your time

[thorn spindle]

ah well back to laranite i suppose

thanks for the info

[eager edge]

ty

[crude tiger]

Why does my prospector make random quick beeps at times when looking for rocks in Aaron halo?

[viral lark]

I tend to get random beeps with all my ships, likely just a bug

[fierce plume]

where do I mine without storms

these storms are bs

[mossy shuttle]

Lyria

[fierce plume]

does this game not have asteroid mining

why are we always mining on planets

moons

[viral lark]

You can mine in asteroid belts

[mossy shuttle]

The Aaron halo has all the asteroids you could want. There's also the belt around Yela and swarms at Lagrange points, as well as clusters around some moons, like Aberdeen

[misty coyote]

Which is more profitable?

[stuck fulcrum]

what ship is recommended for mining?

[misty coyote]

Is Prospector mining with doing in a rental? Ignoring Quantum.... Which I'm not looking at

[misty coyote]

I just spent a few hours mining in a ROC and earned about 120k.
I use a Nomad to port it.

[mossy shuttle]

Lyria and Aaron Halo are generally considered the best areas for quantanium. No one really mines anything else with ships, but I got a decent amount of bexalite from the belt around Yela.

Most people only consider quant worth mining, so they don't recommend using the rental Prospector. Personally I'd do surface mining with the ROC and save up to buy a Prospector. I've done a bit of mining with it on Aberdeen this patch and it's working pretty well.

You do need a Pembroke suit and helmet for that because of the heat, and I don't think they're very easy to buy at the moment because of glitched kiosks. You can mine on Daymar without the Pembroke, though I've never done it.

[mossy shuttle]

I use a Nomad for that too. I have bigger ships, but the Nomad is a great little work ute

[junior cape]

I recently bought the Prospector and I am ready to sell my first refined quantum (around 60 SCU). I am planning to rent the Cutlass to do this, but I was wondering what ship should I aim to buy in the near future to do these cargo transport?

[mossy shuttle]

You can rent a Freelancer at the cargo deck on stations that have them.

Anything that can take at least 64scu would be my pick. Then you can get two full Prospector loads in a run. So Freelancer, Hull-A.

I ended up getting a Constellation Taurus for that purpose, and Freelancer Max is also good if you want a bit more space.

[junior cape]

Should I save and jump directly into the Constellation Taurus? Or stop in the Freelancer first?

[mossy shuttle]

Up to you. You could make enough to buy a Taurus in a couple of days with some luck and a lot of hours. I think they're 3.2mil

Just mine until you get bored and then buy whatever you can with what you've earned. That's what I did, anyway.

A couple of weeks later I bought a Caterpillar

Keep in mind you can't currently sell ships in game, so you're stuck with whatever you get. Doesn't mean you can't buy something better later, but for now it's a permanent addition to your fleet

[north oyster]

Aaron's Halo offers tons of Quantainium mining. In two days I did 16 runs and claimed almost 3.5M aUEC of refined Quantainium to take to market.

[north oyster]

The most inexpensive SCU to cost ship would probably be the MAX for 2.2m and get 120 SCU of cargo

[crude tiger]

Didnt realize that. Good call

[north oyster]

I use the MAX for ROC mining and also hauling refined Quantainium. The taurus or RAFT would also be good candidates. I would discourage you from trying to fill a C2 and taking that to market unless you live for stress

[north oyster]

I did some quick math on the entry level Ships and Cost/SCU

Freelancer MAX 2.2m aUEC @ 120 SCU
= about 18.2k aUEC per SCU

** Argo RAFT** 1.85m aUEC @ 96 SCU
= 19.3K aUEC per SCU

RSI Taurus 3.256m aUEC @ 174 SCU
= 18.7K aUEC per SCU

[mossy shuttle]

have they announced the in game price of the Hull-A yet? That should be pretty competitive in that space

[junior cape]

This is really helpful. I have one question thought. Why do I need weapons in my cargo ships? Does people or pirates can steal your cargo? Do I really need to hire somebody to escort me when I am selling in the market? How can I loose that cargo?

[north oyster]

Weapons as to ship weapons?

[mossy shuttle]

I've never been targeted by a human pirate, and NPC pirates you can just fly away from. If you do get players coming after you, you're probably hosed in any case if you don't have an escort. I just don't worry about it

[junior cape]

Yes, for example the Taurus has weapons but the Freelancer doesn't

[mossy shuttle]

The Freelancer absolutely has weapons

both forward facing and on a turret

even the Prospector has guns

[junior cape]

Freelancer MAX

[north oyster]

These ships can do other missions such as bounty hunting

[mossy shuttle]

The Freelancer Max has weapons too

[marble crater]

all Freelancers have the same guns. 4 S3 on custom turrets

[junior cape]

https://starcitizen.tools/Freelancer_MAX#Universe-0

[north oyster]

All the Freelancer have 4x size 3 guns. And a turret in the neck

[junior cape]

Oh I was looking at this

[marble crater]

that picture even show the guns lol

[junior cape]

I didn't see it

[marble crater]

all g

[junior cape]

When I was reading the description

[junior cape]

Under feature normally says the weapons

[mossy shuttle]

not very closely, eh

[junior cape]

Like this

[marble crater]

alot of wiki style info is out of date too

things happen over 10 years

[junior cape]

My bad guys, just new in all this

[marble crater]

!erkul

[wary tusk]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[marble crater]

best site to see what the ships have that's up to date

[junior cape]

So to wrap up, doesn't matter too much what weapons if I am going to use to transport cargo between refinery and the market

[marble crater]

yeah the Max might as well not have any weapons for what most would use it for

[ember grail]

All good that's what these channels are here for

[ember grail]

Definitely for the Fandom wiki

[marble crater]

but this game isn't like Elite with private/solo play so good to always have some defense

[ember grail]

Right now pirating isn't really a thing. You'll really only run into hostile NPCs once in a blue moon

[marble crater]

3.18 though this all changes

[junior cape]

How is gonna be different?

[marble crater]

Cargo Refactor comes in 3.18 which means all your cargo will be physical entities on your ship which can be pirated

[ember grail]

They're also trying to add more criminal gameplay loops, though the only thing explicitly planned in that regard for 3.18 is illegal delivery missions

[marble crater]

right now pirating is more credits extortion with the threat of blowing you up

[ember grail]

That or griefing and just blowing you up anyways

But I have not run into much of either

[marble crater]

I've been pirated several times on Lyria mining

pretty fun haggling with them

[marble crater]

yeah griefing is it's own crappy thing but that's a problem in alot of multiplayer games

[ember grail]

Mfw I'm based out of Grimhex

[marble crater]

won't surprise me to see pirate blockades at ARCL1 in the next patch

[mossy shuttle]

oh yeah, I got shot down on Lyria, and they said in chat that I didn't respond to them so they killed me. It was more straight-up murder than piracy from my perspective

[marble crater]

oof yeah it's a fine line, I have been asked to pay around $50K normally

[mossy shuttle]

and I would have been totally fine with that

[marble crater]

there's pirates & then there's murder hobos and everything in between lol

[ember grail]

At least Grimhex has hangars so pad-ramming isn't as much a thing

[real axle]

People at GrimHex are a different breed. There’s rammers and people trying to board your ship lol

[marble crater]

almost like it's the place where people with crime stats hang out

[ember grail]

Not to mention block the stairs/elevator with medical beds lmao

But you just can't beat that bed to hangar time

[young wren]

Hey, so I'm trying my hand at asteroid mining for the first time, I can locate rocks with ping but when I fly up to them I can't seem to initiate a scan to check the composition?

[lament falcon]

Usually the composition scan should start on its own when you enter mining mode while aiming at an asteroid. If that isn't the case try exiting the pilot seat and then sitting back down, sometimes that helps

[marble crater]

lots of asteroids in the Halo can be bugged and not scan. if you run into lots in a row, it's time to server hop

[young wren]

Yeah guess I should have hopped, that server was terrible

One hour in the black, 3scu of quant

[vestal cairn]

keep losing my 2 Focus III Modules
everytime i claim my prospector is this normal?
Anyone else have this issues
they are supposed to stay even when ship gets destroyed
well it was before

[marble crater]

mining modules are destroyed when you claim the ship unfortunately

[vestal cairn]

even passive ones? because they did not go away before

[marble crater]

you keep the laser & ship modules/weapons only

they should have gone away before

[young wren]

Is it easier to mine out on Lyria? I've heard anecdotally that it's infested with pirates

[marble crater]

easier in some ways.

Pros: anytime you find a cluster of 2 or more rocks it's Quant (only on Lyria). less unscannable rocks on planets/moons.

Cons: You will find rocks that are too big to solo mine unless you are experienced/equipped to do so.
Pirates are a thing but a rare occurrence tbh

[young wren]

Hmm, maybe I'll give it a shot once I get more practice using modules, thanks bud

[young wren]

I keep blowing up asteroids, this is rougher than I anticipated

[lament falcon]

Be careful to not blow up your ship

[young wren]

Haven't blown it up yet, but I did get hardlocked once and had to relog, all systems shut down

[topaz burrow]

they did. The fix will be released with upcoming patch

[stiff dragon]

What kind of ship is good for cargo missions?

[daring sand]

how much do u wanna spend

C2 is best for cargo rn

[stiff dragon]

Preferably real money

[topaz burrow]

feels good

[sage dragon]

30K

[pastel flame]

People will quickly adjust to this

I can't wait til most people try pirating and see how difficult it is

Standard jumps will stop being a thing

[meager knoll]

I have a buddy who loved his vanguard a little too much. if pirates bother me I'll just let him know where some new targets are

[sage dragon]

soo... now there are... baby vanguards..?

[meager knoll]

you see when a mommy and daddy vanguard love each other very much................

[topaz burrow]

Go on...

[hoary basalt]

Have a Question. Is it a common problem, that the elevator of the RAFT isnt working, once you are inside of it?

[meager knoll]

elevators have been buggy for a while

everywhere

[hoary basalt]

uff

okay

thx

[meager knoll]

a lot of 30k errors as well

that is the server shutting down

[stark sun]

which mining laser should i use for quantanium mining?

[rare plume]

i use the lancet, slow but safe

[hoary basalt]

I use the Lancet MH1 with two Vaux-C3 modules (each -10% instability and -4% optimal charge window) and one XTR-L module (40% higher extraction rate and -3%laser power). With this loadout you can easily get 100% quant.

(on the Prospector)

[pure adder]

is there a mining guide for 1.17?

[north oyster]

3.17.1? 🙂

The two most important things for mining now is learning how to use the Active angle Ping radar and the Halo bands.

In the Halo, active angle ping supercharges the mining. Let's just say I did 16 runs in two evenings for almost 3.5M aUEC

[sage dragon]

and for me it takes an hour to find a good rock..

[north oyster]

you using active angle ping where you can ID an asteroid from 12K?

[sage dragon]

yea, to see if it's Q type

[north oyster]

what band?

[sage dragon]

idk, I try to aim for 5

[north oyster]

Try Band 3 or 4. There is something in your process that must be off if it is taking you that long

Let me know if you want to chat about how you are mining and check your process

[vivid sorrel]

If i get too many dead rocks, or don't see quant rock for x minutes i tend to bedlog and serverhop. Dunno if it helps, but feels like it.

[north oyster]

Server is key, also sometimes a good 20K Km jump helps too

[north oyster]

And on a totally unrelated subject, more Danmachi is coming and I'm happy

[steel herald]

I have become addicted to the mining loop. Gonna try more belt farming today

[topaz burrow]

i have absolute terrible luck surface mining. Barely ever leave the halo lol

[north oyster]

Now if we could deliver our Qantainium to market without our ship bugging out

[vivid sorrel]

What's wrong with your ship?

[north oyster]

A number of times Area 18 will not acknowledge that it has landed. Also, one time ASOP wanted me to claim my ship. I'm now flying to the Commons in NB and running to the TDD from there at the building to avoid issues

[vivid sorrel]

If that happens i just summon another ship at the location. So far that old one has gotten automatically stored then

[earnest halo]

Trying to figure out where to sell SLAM , gallog doesn't show anywhere or am I not reading it right?

Or is gallog dead

[vivid sorrel]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/SLAM

[earnest halo]

[willow grail]

Does the method for refining matter?

[high wren]

@willow grail yes, ferron the best for quant. takes a while tho

[jaunty laurel]

Wait, isn't dinyx slightly better?

[high wren]

i should have specified, this is at wide forest, not sure about other locations

[willow grail]

I'm refining at ARC-L1

For quantanium

[high wren]

i use ferron every time

[jaunty laurel]

I've been using it dinyx. One sec I'll look up the difference

[willow grail]

That would be nice

[high wren]

ferron take a long time i know, not sure about dinyx

[jaunty laurel]

http://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[sage dragon]

dinyx is cheaper than ferron but takes longer time, the sell value is the same, so Dinyx gives more profit as it's cheaper

[willow grail]

So go for Dinyx?

[jaunty laurel]

Ty @sage dragon that's the right answer

[sage dragon]

yea, unless you want sliiiightly less money, quite a bit quicker

[willow grail]

How much is the selling price of quantanium atm?

[high wren]

88 i think

[willow grail]

Per rock?

[sage dragon]

with a full 100% quant load (prospector). Ferron will take 14 hours, and gives a profit of 254k
Dinyx will take 43 hours and gives a profit of 261k

[sage dragon]

88 auec/unit

[willow grail]

I see

[ember grail]

Anyone know why my friend would see "storage unavailable" on a 2 SCU box?

[willow grail]

Problem tho is that I only have a black cutless to sell with, it might take me more than one trip to sell

[willow grail]

When I went to the console to refine it said 1D 15H to refine

[sage dragon]

yea, takes quite a bit of time

[pastel flame]

Hence why most just use Ferron

6k to wait an extra day

[sage dragon]

if you mine daily, it doesn't matter

but if you mine just a bit every now and then, then Ferron might be good

[pastel flame]

I just don't like the long wait for such a small difference, it's just preference.

[vivid sorrel]

@jaunty laurel @willow grail Both Ferron & Dinyx refine to the same amount. But Dinyx take a bit longer, and costs a bit less

[ember grail]

@obsidian crescent main problem with hauling cargo rn is that restock rates for a lot of commodities are super low compared to the potential trade volume

[obsidian crescent]

i see

[ember grail]

It can still be profitable, but you need to plan out your trade route pretty well and there's always the chance you'll lose all your cargo due to a game crash

[obsidian crescent]

yeah I learned that while doing delivery missions. Spent like 3 hours picking up for 8 delivery missions and then my game crashed lol

[north oyster]

Trade is not on a good position at the moment and probably won't be until about this time next year. You can make money on trade but it favors only the largest ships (C2, CAT, Carrack) for earning decent coin. Sadly, deliveries need a LOT OF LOVE and are even worst than trade. Add to that this current build (3.17.1) is a total dumpster fire and you have the perfect storm.

[ember grail]

High profit margin commodities usually have low restock rates, so you need a large ship to make it worth it trading large amounts of commodities at a lower per unit profit margin

[north oyster]

Keep in mind that you are competing with every other player in SC on every server at the same time. The commodities are all linked for purchase and selling.

[covert beacon]

Whats a good ship to rent to make cargo trading?

[proven path]

Connie andromeda

Is decent

What’s gonna be the best cargo ship after the cargo update?

[blazing cedar]

Hard to say since we don't really know the details of the refactor's implementation yet

And also best can mean different things depending on what you want

[proven path]

just buying and sekking

selling*

money making is top priority

and mining is not my forte

[covert beacon]

There should be a queue for people waiting on the same place to load/unload cargo

[vivid sorrel]

A C2 will probably be good no matter what, since it's got the great cargo capacity

But if it takes forever to load...eeh...well everyone has to load cargo anyway...idk?

[worn dock]

Can a ROC fit in a Cutty Red?

[ember grail]

It's a tight fit, you might struggle with it

[worn dock]

hmm, I may have to try with a rented one

[vivid sorrel]

I think Swys did this

[worn dock]

too bad there are really no rescue missions.

[vivid sorrel]

Future Plans [tm] like 95% of stuff 😛

[ember grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvevK0xbRKw

[worn dock]

Thanks! Yeah, that looks a little too twitchy to trust in the Red

Thanks!

[ember grail]

I personally wouldn't trust myself to be able to do that consistently lmao

[worn dock]

yeah!

that's a bit too twitchy

[vivid sorrel]

That vid was from 2020 though...i think they did a pass on the cutlass after that?

[supple sable]

Any good trading routs someone wanna recommend ?

[ember grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8wO9iO3E7E&t=311s

Caveat being trading is not super reliable atm

[covert crypt]

serious question.. what the hell is even the point of hauling lmao

you get a maximum of.. what. 2.8% profit?

20k with trading 1mil out of pocket?

thats laughable

am i missing something

[vivid sorrel]

You're missing something

Margin is more like...eh..if reliable say 20%

[ember grail]

Max profit is 24% on Laranite

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah, but gold is reliable. Larnaite is just not.

[covert crypt]

is UEX just not reliable then?

[ember grail]

Yeah was responding to his max profit number

[vivid sorrel]

No tool is reliable when it comes to purchase price, but it also depends on what purchase place you choose in it

[covert crypt]

24% still sounds pretty horrible tbh

alright thanks for the input

[ember grail]

That precent is the variation, it says +/- 2.40 percent. That profit margin is not 2.4% lol

[vivid sorrel]

You just want free money? 😛

[ember grail]

That's like 1 QT in a C2 for 240k

[covert crypt]

nah just trying to figure out why anyone would want to waste time and possibly all their money to crashes/30ks and transaction bugs when everything else gives you a much better profit margin with no risk

[ember grail]

Some people like the gameplay loop

[vivid sorrel]

Everything has risks, but yes, trading can potentially directly lose you money

If you play the game for a bit, you find out what you like, and then try to make the most money out of it. No point in playing\doing something you don't like even if it makes you richer then something you do like.

[ember grail]

Money and ships get wiped too, might as well just do something you like

[vivid sorrel]

Oh jesus i hope the time here really is WIP

[scarlet rover]

UEX is dependent on its team reporting information, so you should take it with a grain of salt and compare what it claims against what you're seeing at terminals.
SCTT is more generally reliable for routes etc since it pulls directly from the game's base values - albeit before prices are adjusted for supply/demand.

I use both and compare the two when planning routes.

[worn dock]

Holy CRAP. if that's really a Cutty Black rework I'll be over the moon!

Where do you start when ROC mining on Aberdeen? Anderson or Norgaard? Which direction do you take? I went 20 degrees out of Anderson the other day, but all the deposits were on really steep slopes.

[ember grail]

Are refinery shop terminals currently bugged? They're just black for me

[snow vortex]

i think so. because its doing the same thing to me

[thorny shoal]

is it better to ROC Mine or rent a prospector to buy a prospector?

save*

[young wren]

So I've been mining in the prospector for a little bit now, starting to get the hang of popping surge and stampede to get the initial crack

I'm struggling a little bit with the second crack once the asteroid splits though. A lot of the time the charge seems to fluctuate wildly and I end up overcharging it.

Any chance someone has some tips on how to modulate laser power better? Or anything really.

[rugged axle]

set laser to 100, hit it. then instantly go back to 5-10%

the small pieces, especially high quant %, wont take hardly any power

[vestal cairn]

whats your go to trading run atm ?

[scarlet rover]

what are we looking at in this? reduced Cutty storage?

[pastel flame]

TItanium and Laranite if I'm trying to go for max profit, but usually stims and scrap are more chill and less risky for similar results

[vestal cairn]

ahh i see would u just tell me a quick run down of where your stops are? so far iv just been going to different random spots for laranite and selling at lorville

[marble crater]

oh lordy just imagining a C2 lmao

3 irl days a run

[feral totem]

I experienced another instance where I couldn’t store my Prospector at ARC-L1 after mining quant. Raised a ticket on it.

Whoever faced the same issue, please help to confirm it! It was raised by others several times in the past but never enough to cross the threshold to confirm it

[deep vector]

Just get it impounded

[feral totem]

As in leave it on the pad and get it impounded? Will it work?

Assuming the impounding happens before the quant goes boom! 😂

Or could I sell to the refinery without storing the ship?

[deep vector]

No

Impounding stores ship

[maiden brook]

Anyone know what that blinking light under prospector is?

a beacon or a future thing?

[tepid crest]

what’s best place to mine

[feral totem]

Ok so I logged in again today, and my prospector was stored with the quant inside! Looks like all I need to do is log off, and the ship will be automatically stored if its on the pad

[deep vector]

50% success rate

[vivid sorrel]

No this was a pic taken from cargo rework stuff and WIP pics

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/commodity-kiosk-feedback-show-commodities-not-ship/5162288

ah, "concept" even, so 100% don't look at numbers i'd think, more like these are the panels\layout we're thinking of possibly using

[vivid sorrel]

With what? For what?

[topaz burrow]

so im looking at that cutty in that picture and it has two airlocks instead of barn doors

[marble crater]

Cutty Red has airlocks

[topaz burrow]

gotcha

[vivid sorrel]

Ah this you mean?

[marble crater]

Same as the Cutty Blue

think for Medical & Boarding

[topaz burrow]

not sure medbed with a person on will fit through airlock lol

[marble crater]

I thought it would be for medical to board a ship

eva does sound easier though 😆

[topaz burrow]

😄

i'd love the airlocks have wider use. I think currently only hammerhead uses it to dock to a station

[tepid crest]

prospector and money

[vivid sorrel]

Quant, aaron halo

[tepid crest]

is aaron a planet

[white hemlock]

Maybe it used to be lol

Its bits of rock now

[vivid sorrel]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[tepid crest]

ohhh

[misty coyote]

I've heard that making patterns increases the output by a fraction, so if you're in the green but dropping, move around a bit rather than upping the power.

Works with ROC mining anyway

[young wren]

Cheers, I'll try being more active with the laser wiggling. Right now I need to get used to not slamming into every other asteroid out there

[vivid sorrel]

hehe

Well you hopefully have a lancet laser to help with the instability

Because otherwise it's hard af to get a safe crack without modules on the 2nd crack, especially if it's a 100% quant one

[misty coyote]

I've not done this, but heard about it. It works on ROC mining...Get it to dropping, dump the power and wiggle.

...Huh...This is good advice for another Discord I'm on....

brb

[young wren]

I've been practicing surge then stampeding for the initial crack, I still have one module slot open though, any recommendations for the 100 quant cracks?

[vivid sorrel]

Are you using the lancet?

[young wren]

Yes indeed

[vivid sorrel]

Hm... then it's probably just experience needed. I generally do 50 meter crack range on secondary cracks, at around 30-40% power, until it hits optimal. Then it having to constantly manage the power, usually between 10-20% but it's still depending on the rock mass and instab RNG too

But i use a passive Vaux (i think it's called) on my 3rd module for another -10% instab reduction

[young wren]

That might have been my issue, I was told somewhere to go for an initial burst of 100 then dial down to 10 and modulate from there, might have been some particularly unstable rocks that didn't like that approach

It's wild how risky mining is compared to ED, I miss my subsurface missiles and limpets

[vivid sorrel]

Nothing like the fear of going kaboom 😄

[willow grail]

Optimal modules for quantanium mining?

[vivid sorrel]

My preference is just surge and stampede with your choice of last as passive

[covert beacon]

Is it even worth doing any trade route that has waiting time with a bigger ship?

[vivid sorrel]

Probably not. It depends on if there's actually stock or not. If Laranite then it's always no stock 😄

[feral totem]

I am doing surge, stampede, and optimum. But having some trouble keeping it in the green with optimum

[vivid sorrel]

Well optimum does increase the charge window size by a good amount! But it also increases instab by 10% (multiplier)

[topaz burrow]

whats signature size

[vivid sorrel]

Your ship signature, which one idk, EM and thermal maybe?

[topaz burrow]

doesnt matter then 😄

maybe when pirates be sniffing for freshblood

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah not in current game really

Like heat isn't even a real thing anymore

[topaz burrow]

[vivid sorrel]

heh. Soon [tm] valvetime

[covert beacon]

Whats the best trade route?

[arctic knoll]

Hello Guys,

Short question... im new at mining
Could i also upgrade the little greycat ROC miner?
Or does it makes no sense?

[feral totem]

yes you should. and you should do it at microtech, where you can spawn the ROC on the planet, store it, and upgrade it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLo-O0ptw-0

[vivid sorrel]

It has no actual effect in the current game, except possibly making it take a little longer for it's component to die from wear. But this is fixed by claiming it every couple runs anyway. So it you're just starting out and low on money no need at all.

Later on upgrade it because you have enough money and upgrading all the stuff is fun 😄

[north oyster]

Let me take a different approach from Eternal Hunter's input. His is valid but there are a few things you can do. The laser if fixed (atm) but you can upgrade the Cooler and two computers to the next class up. What will that get you? Like EH said, claiming just takes a few seconds, however with the upgraded components you can go a few more rounds without fear of failure. I did upgrade mine, but I've not done a full blown stress test to determine the value yet. Others claim that makes all the difference in the world, some claim "naw"

[vernal birch]

seems like the cargo refactor is going to really shake things up

[bleak shell]

Are the mining shop terminals still broken?

Still is at CRU-L1 at least

[sage dragon]

yep

[bleak shell]

Any other stations where they might still work?

[vernal birch]

im at arc l1 and they are broken

[bleak shell]

God damnit

They been like this for a month now

[vernal birch]

i was able to get USE to pop up on the left one and that brought me up to the terminal like I was really using it

lol

clicked around on the blank screen a bunch and now i have a brandt module in my backpack lol

im guessing the ui just isnt showing for some reason but the terminal is still "functioning"

[analog wadi]

w

What is the best setup on the prospector for being able to crack rocks around 6-8k

[north oyster]

This patch will not change until the rollout 3.17.2 ... so all the issues will remain until then. IN theory, by the end of the month

[north oyster]

Surge, Stampede and then a passive modify of choice. There are a couple of different opinions on that.

[bleak shell]

Okay, thanks for the answer tripperdan

[analog wadi]

thats with the lancet equipped?

[north oyster]

Yes, Lancet is meta at this time. Only way to effectively crack Quantainium. Quan is the only ore in demand

[rugged axle]

Are you sure a prosp will crack a 6-8k mass with just that?

[north oyster]

Yes, but there is a chuck of skill needed and you will die many times learning it

[analog wadi]

yeah.. I mean thats what im using atm and yess.. have overcharged a few times just trying to get the split

[north oyster]

So wear your freebie undersuit and helmet

[rugged axle]

I mean, I know technically you can by surging it multiple times....but it's not reliable at all lol.

Was under the impression reliably. A 2nd prospector is the only way

Or stacking the hand held modules

Forgot about those

[north oyster]

MOLE (when it if finally fixed) or dual Prospectors is the easiest way

[analog wadi]

is it profitable to tag team rocks with two prospectors ?

[north oyster]

I mine exclusively in the Halo, so I have none of those worries

[rugged axle]

Quant is profitable no matter what lol. If you get 32scu, that's 150k each

And that's with a 50/50 split

[north oyster]

No, if dual, you should get close to 64 Quan if rock big enough. That's up to 550K aUEC haul

[rugged axle]

I mean yea, if you find 2 rocks in a cluster big enough.

For instance last night, mining the halo. Cluster of 6 rocks, 2 were 30-34% 5k masses. That's enough for 64 scu and some left over.

[analog wadi]

I haven't tried mining in the belts yet.. how long does it usually take to find a rock? i can usually find them in 5-10 mins on moon with the scan method

[rugged axle]

Depends on rng. Last night the rng gods favored me. Pulled 2mil credits in just over 1 hour

Other times you may go all day without finding a good enough rock

[high wren]

how? that's an incredible amount of cash for that period of time? mining?

[rugged axle]

Yes.

[high wren]

on lyria?

[rugged axle]

Nope, halo

[high wren]

belt 5?

[rugged axle]

Not a fan of Lyria until mole is fixed

[north oyster]

I mine Belt 3 and 4 atm

[high wren]

im lucky to make 600k in an hour in the halo with my prospector, still waiting for mole to get fixed as well

[north oyster]

I made 16 quick runs in two evenings the other day for 3.5m aUEC payout

[rugged axle]

Belt 4/5 yes. Main key is don't get stuck searching a single belt for too long. If I spend more than 5-10 minutes. I jump 20-50km and go again

Not belt, I mean spot

[north oyster]

The Jump does help when on a bad spot

[rugged axle]

So if I drop qt at...say...10km. I turn around heading back to refinery. If I don't see a q in 5 minutes of searching, I jump again towards refinery. Rinse and repeat

[high wren]

ya, i do that when i get too many rocks that won't scan to

[north oyster]

being able to determine duds from 12k away is a wonderful thing though

[rugged axle]

Last night, I dropped qt. And literally first rock I scanned was a 5122 mass 48% Quant. 2nd jump was about 2 minutes for another 30ish scu. 3rd jump was the cluster with 2 32scu loads(called a buddy in to "mark" the cluster while I delivered first load).

Twas a good night. Game knows I'm saving for a hammerhead lol

[north oyster]

When 3.17.1 first dropped, I could not find crap for nothing. It was almost two weeks of garbage runs. But as of the last week, it seems the Halo is back to her good ways of being a happy place

[rugged axle]

I had good luck at start of .1, but on a different route. It dried up so I moved routes and seem to be back in the money

Pulled 5 loads yesterday morning(about 30 minutes before work), then 5 or 6(dont remember exactly) last night after work.

Now I'm 1.2mil off from the 12.5 I need for the hammy

Gonna try and mine that out tonight so I can get the hammy by Friday

[north oyster]

I have an imaginary "bottom line" I want to have in my wallet at all times. So I'm building that back up. I bought a few things so I'm on my want back to restoring my wallet to 30m aUEC

[rugged axle]

If the mole was working, I probably would of had 1.5/2mil off that one cluster. There was a 40%, 35%, couple around 14-18%. I grabbed the 2 highest and called it cause buddy had to go

[north oyster]

Eventually I'll move that up to 100m

[rugged axle]

Eh, I'm trying not to keep too much. And having fun buying ships. Don't wanna waste it all when resets happen lol.

(Hence why I'm buying a hammerhead...)

[hallow ether]

I am starting to think that STIMS are low key the best trade commodity.

[north oyster]

IF you take it nice and slow

Nice thing about that, you can do good business in a smaller ship and make good coin

[hallow ether]

They're cheap, have a surprising profit margin, and pretty much every location wants them.

[north oyster]

yes, since the demand per place is low but there are tons of places, if you don't mind traveling and with a little time, you can sell it off

[rugged axle]

I can't bring myself to do trading right now. I cringe everytime I load the c2 with Quant to deliver

[north oyster]

If no one knows your activity and don't try to do it also, then it being a sleeper commodity, that is in your favor

[hallow ether]

I've been doing a loop where I take the re up mission. load up on stims and sell them at Jumptown and Grim HEX and the other stops in that loop

[north oyster]

if you have the claim issue, one member shared that they can spawn another ship and it stows the ship on the pad that needs to be claimed

[hallow ether]

though I did get attacked at jumptown last night but I think they were NPC pirates and I just ran away.

[north oyster]

those NPCs have impeccable timing

[rugged axle]

Not even that, just disconnecting after quantum, invisible hanger doors(doors open, but not really. Granted I've only had it happen once, luckily with an empty ship)

[north oyster]

For me, if I'm really paranoid, I just fly to New Babbage and land near the Commons. there I can run to the TDD and sell what I have

[hallow ether]

I landed at JT and while I was walking in laser blasts started hitting the ground around me then as I left they just waited until I took off and then started shooting again. It was weird.

[north oyster]

definately NPCS then

[rugged axle]

My buddy went to trading instead of mining cause he has horrible luck with finding rocks, and has lost like 2mil due to bugs. Died last night walking out of the mining facility. (He said it like pushed him out of the airlock door and started bleeding)

[north oyster]

If you duck walk up and down the stairs, it will prevent the stair killer from getting you

[rugged axle]

Random disconnects(doesn't relog him in the ship). Which has happened to me before while doing bunkers thankfully

[north oyster]

3.17.1 is nothing short of a Dumpster Fire

[rugged axle]

I get the qt bug often in my titan which is funny. Because most of the time it relogs me floating upside down outside the ship lol

He had one I've never seen before yesterday too. He logged back in after disconnecting, and was a ghost. Could float through walls/his ship/ground. Basically noclip. Had to float to the bed and lay down to fix it

[reef smelt]

Will you be able to pirate cargo from other players after you shoot them down with the cargo refactor?

[hallow ether]

I cant wait for 3.17.2 just for the bug fixes that it surely has to have.

and I want those smuggling missions.

[serene quest]

best QT for MAX?

[pastel flame]

In theory

[fading nebula]

is there a list of hand mining spots anywhere

[worn dock]

died last night in my Pembroke armor, and now have to go to Lorville to get the helmet.

I hate Lorville. It's confusing and depressing.

[azure hemlock]

You can buy the armor at refinery, just use the display to buy

[worn dock]

Did that. Still need the helmet though

keep hopin I'll loot one in an Aberdeen outpost for a spare

[rotund silo]

I may have to consider giving up on mining quant for a while

since 3.17 I have basically a 50% chance of not landing my Prospector gently enough and I'm sick of losing all my haul and my guns

[worn dock]

can you pick a statin that has auto-landing on the pads?

station

things like that are what scares me about buying a Prospector. Good money, but so much can go wrong

[rotund silo]

I dunno if Wide Forest has those. I could just start hovering over a random pad until they impound me

[worn dock]

My luck I'd get ganked for giggles by some kid that rams a starter ship into me at the pad

oh,that's an idea

[rotund silo]

Yeah two days ago I was only getting ore to the refinery on about 33% of my mining trips, yesterday it was 70% but I had the one quant explosion

[worn dock]

will be nice when physicalized cargo gets in the game. You can have a buddy racing each load to the station while you keep mining, keeping the average "time before boom" high.

[vivid sorrel]

Caves, but they're not marked, so you'll need to find a cave investigation mission, to find a missing person in them.

Also !mining

[wary tusk]

Mining

• [Mining Basics](#976514975646482472 message) • [Ore Refinement](#976514975646482472 message) •

[worn dock]

Good Lord. The Mole is $315

[vivid sorrel]

Nothing in SC is cheap in regards to real money IMO

[worn dock]

yeah

that's more than I was going to spend on a new HOTAs, though

[vivid sorrel]

Well mole is still bugged anyway, so no point until next patch

[worn dock]

might not even get that much past She Who Must Be Obeyed

but I can see a group of 4 or more making serious bank with a Mole and a transport ship

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah...but...ok. I don't do much planet mining, but even the little i've done i very rarely find more then 1 good Quant rock in a patch.

I guess you could get more SCU from a bigger rock, and mole's cargohold, but eh..i just feel the mole is overhyped? Take my impression with a bucket of salt since i haven't used it myself, and i don't do much planetmining.

[worn dock]

oh I thought it was a proper ship that could mine the halo

[vivid sorrel]

Ah, no i can't imagine that. You should gain almost the same as a Prospector, as again finding good multiple quant rocks is very rare. And mole from what i understand is slower too, so scouting would take a tiny bit longer.

[buoyant cedar]

I personally enjoy using the prospector more than the mole. We'll usually just have 2-4 people in prospectors running around together. we can scan more of the planet more quickly, then work together to crack the rocks up.

[vivid sorrel]

I can imagine a good scout being worth their weight in Quant 🙂

[buoyant cedar]

definitely! if you have a good group, you could easily make up to 400-500k UEC as a group from one set of quant rocks.

[topaz burrow]

Sooooooo I don't know what happened. I had 460k monies and sold 730k worth of quant in area18 now I have 5.6m ?!

[vivid sorrel]

Transaction got bugged i guess?

[timber venture]

safe to assume the % on gem rocks doesnt matter at all since they all seem to average out at 3 csu?

[vivid sorrel]

correct! Currently it has no effect on the yield

Only thing it effects is how it is to crack open, as more hadanite=more power and more inert = less power

[ember grail]

Wow that's really good to know!

Does anyone know if diverting vehicle power to weapons increases the strength of a mining laser? I swear that happened to me while I was ROC mining but wasn't positive

[timber venture]

Funnily enough I picked up on this too, noticed 99% hadanite needed more oomph

[vivid sorrel]

I think i read something about that in relation to an older version of the game, but i'm not sure

[vivid sorrel]

wtf....3 runs in a row now, found 35%'ish quant rock each time within 3 minutes of dropping in

Gonna have used up all my luck for the month now 😛

[digital rose]

Does anyone know if the mole is still messed up?

I believe there was issues with it sucking up the rocks once you mine stuff.

[feral totem]

How do you pull five loads in 30min? Between scanning and cracking and QTing and storing and refining, it takes me on average 30min per Prospector load of Quant in the halo!

[blazing pendant]

hello

[rugged axle]

your cracking really slow then. are you using surges?

[blazing pendant]

After I go to lorville and buy prospector, where do I go next to get my ship setup

[rugged axle]

new babbage

[neon lance]

Is mining a good money maker? I havent done it and i should probably get some info before i think about buying a mining ship

[rugged axle]

since the refinery kiosks are bugged

its good money if you have decent rng for the day

@blazing pendant everything you need mining wise is at shubin at new babbage. the mining head and all the modules

just dont equip the modules then claim the ship somewhere else. modules get lost that way

mining head stays

[blazing pendant]

should i get lancet, impact or helix?

i have 3mil to spend

And where do I go on lorville to buy the ship? Im outside the atmosphere rn of hurston

[neon lance]

any recommendations for a starter mining ship? preferably a decent sized one

[blazing pendant]

prospector

[rugged axle]

Lorville, the ship shop. Land in hanger. Go to lobby. Take a left at the desk. Takes you outside, across the bridge to the show room

47, there's only two mining ships. Prospector and mole. Mole is more for having a group and broken right now. But a prospector. Like 2.1mil