industrial-professions

[thorn spindle]

anyone know where to get focus 3 modules ?

[hardy flicker]

Which is better

[north oyster]

that's one way to prevent over charging but will slow down your progress some

[uneven jacinth]

so how do i control it

mousewheel or something else

[little sinew]

does it not show where on erkul

[north oyster]

Mouse wheel should control your power.

[uneven jacinth]

hm ok

thx

[thorn spindle]

i dont see how to look it up on erkul i went under prospector and didnt see any options

[north oyster]

if you mine on Lyria you will need Surge, Stampede and a other choice. You can check the pinned comments at the top of this forum for some ideas

[little sinew]

hmm idk im new too

[north oyster]

try finder.cstone.space for some ideas too

[hardy flicker]

Select the module and click the tab on the left it should turn blue

[naive bane]

I used to mine on lyria but helix is better imo

[north oyster]

Passive modules are pretty expensive and they get lost if you lose your ship.

[thorn spindle]

i dont see the module section on erkul

ive looked through the list

i can change the mining laser

[north oyster]

The Helix has been soundly nerfed by CIG

[thorn spindle]

just dont see modules anywhere

[hardy flicker]

What’s better mining on planet or asteroids

[hardy flicker]

Damn idk sorry bro I figured it would have the drop down

[naive bane]

wdym? I'm still finding lots of quant? And it's what you recommended to me like 2 days ago XD

[thorn spindle]

yea me too

ill just google

[north oyster]

I'm talking about the Helix laser mining head not Aaron's Halo ...

[naive bane]

shit I mistyped that lol my bad

[north oyster]

no worries, all good

Lancet is meta (for lack of a better word) and is all you need to mine Quantainium and make millions of aUEC

I made about 1.5m aUEC in 7 runs to the Halo yesterday

[thorn spindle]

i hear you want to invest into the bang 890j trust ?

[north oyster]

I always try to keep enough funds on hand to buy one or two at the drop of a hat. I had hundreds of million before the wipe, so I'm still building back up 🙂

[thorn spindle]

i wanna be like you when i grow up

[north oyster]

LOL, no, you will be better

[boreal vine]

Trading with a MISC Freelancer worth it?

Or will you be able to make more money by simply doing bounties, security contracts and deliveries?

[north oyster]

No, trade only serves the largest of ships

[thorn spindle]

Your a great guy

[north oyster]

use the Freelancer with a Rented ROC (4K aUEC) and try out mining

[boreal vine]

Yeah was looking into that, but wasnt sure if I should get the Freelancer or the Cutlass for it.

Prob gonna do the Cutlass just so I can manage myself if I end up in a fight for whatever reason.

[hollow sedge]

Which should I get
a) Prospector
b) Freelancer + Greycat ROC-DS

[north oyster]

Cutty is the Swiss Army Knife of SC. Good at everything, great at nothing

[boreal vine]

Heh yeah so I heard.

[boreal vine]

Also curious about this, is it better to just do mining with a Prospector, or should you do ROC mining?

[hollow sedge]

In my opinion, I like ROC mining because

idk

just like it more

[north oyster]

Prospector but never buy a DS

[hollow sedge]

O

why not

[north oyster]

Waste of funds. It is larger and holds more but it is like buying a MOLE to solo mine. Not the best setup

[hollow sedge]

alr

[toxic citrus]

And freelancer can barely fit an ROC

[hollow sedge]

Which ship can fit one?

[toxic citrus]

Its an extremely tight squeeze to get it in

[north oyster]

DS will not fit in a FL

[keen igloo]

good tihng i choose the prospector

[hollow sedge]

oh

so i shouldnt get a free lancer with a ROC?

[keen igloo]

im very curious about alien week

[toxic citrus]

Cutlass black + ROC

[north oyster]

If you can buy the Prospector, go with that

[toxic citrus]

^

[hollow sedge]

so either cutlass black with roc or a prospector

[north oyster]

I run both the Prospector and the ROC. You can change up and have variety

[hollow sedge]

O

can a roc fit in a prospector?

[north oyster]

no

Prospector only for mining

[hollow sedge]

can a roc fit in a cutlass black?

[north oyster]

yes

[hollow sedge]

damn

[toxic citrus]

Prosp doesn't even have a vehicle bay or storage area to even try to fit one in

[hollow sedge]

so either

cutlass black with ROC or a prospector

[north oyster]

If asking, I would say go with Prospector even if you have to rent a ship to take the refined ore to market

[hollow sedge]

A prospector can't take refined ores?

[thorn spindle]

no sir

[hollow sedge]

damn

so only mining

[north oyster]

Prospector is the Goose that lays the golden eggs in this game. You can earn 10's of millions with her

you can clear several million aUEC per day once you get good

[hollow sedge]

so you'd recommend prospector over cutlass black with roc

[north oyster]

yes, but you will need a ship to carry the refined ore to market you get with the Prospector

[hollow sedge]

y9q2wh8uo

can a cutlass black carry refined ores

[north oyster]

Yes

[hollow sedge]

oh

well

[north oyster]

One trip at a time, but still works great

[hollow sedge]

i think ill just go with that

then

[earnest crystal]

Can I quick key the brant drive ?

[north oyster]

I would say buy both when you can. The ROC is only 174k aUEC. If you already have a cutty, then you are golden

[hollow sedge]

alri just bought both

not both

like

cutlass with roc

not cutlass with prospector

[north oyster]

OK, you will need the Pembroke armor (tamany&sons) because you are going to Aberdeen

[hollow sedge]

i need specific armors for mining??

[north oyster]

Specific armor for HEAT

[hollow sedge]

heat

[north oyster]

you're going to go to hell junior

[hollow sedge]

so i cant use defiance armors

[blazing cedar]

Not on Aberdeen for more than 10 minutes

[north oyster]

You can try then

[hollow sedge]

oml

alright then

[north oyster]

Aberdeen has the most Hadanite in the system (density wise)

Also, once you get the ROC loaded, you will want to Quantum travel to OM-1 and dive down to the planet from there

[thorn spindle]

Nothing but pure purples on that rock

[north oyster]

Also, the gems do not require refinery. So just sell them at any outpost

[hollow sedge]

tryna find tamany and sons rn

also can u rob people

[north oyster]

In the little dump known as Lorville

[hollow sedge]

yes im there rn

is there a command where i can look at a lorville map

oh i can just find a map

at lorville

[north oyster]

if you go down the hall across from the Admin office, I think it is that way. I can't remember, I try to stay away from that place

[hollow sedge]

is it near new deals

[north oyster]

No, New Deal is in the Space Port

You have to take the train

[hollow sedge]

omg

alright

[north oyster]

Don't take the wrong train

One goes to the CBD and the other to the main city area

You don't want the CBD

[sage dragon]

spaceport line to metro center

[hollow sedge]

what happens if u attack new babbage

[north oyster]

Thanks Falk, I couldn't recall but as soon as you said that I hear the subway voice in my head

[sage dragon]

new babbage attacks back

[hollow sedge]

o

[sage dragon]

aye, the commerce line goes to business district which has trade terminals and I think ship weapons there?

[hollow sedge]

can i buy noodles from here

my hunger is decreasing

[sage dragon]

metro center has all the other stuff, tammys, casaba, stuff

[hollow sedge]

nvm i dont think u can

Pembroke armor

damn thats expensive

[north oyster]

I think about 15k for both parts

[hollow sedge]

yea

[north oyster]

Remember to put in your ship before you lift off

[hollow sedge]

what else do i need

[north oyster]

just the suit and helmet

Water and food while you are there

[sage dragon]

mining tool? or roc only?

[north oyster]

Pick up extra water and food to put in ship

Only the ROC, it is complete

[hollow sedge]

so first i spawn the cutlass black

then i

go to where i spawn the ROC

then i drive the roc into the ship

an then i leave for

the palce that starts with an a

[sage dragon]

aberdeen

[north oyster]

you will pick it up at Anderson or Norgaard on Aberdeen

[sage dragon]

aka hell

[hollow sedge]

yes

Anderson Norgaard Aberdeen

why cant u buy drinks and foods in bulk amount

[north oyster]

because CIG deems it so

[sage dragon]

it's annoying

[blazing cedar]

I think they're planning to change that soon

[hollow sedge]

alr i have 5 waters and 2 beef chunks

[blazing cedar]

(I really hope so)

[sage dragon]

how much does roc mining give compared to prospector mining? just a rough estimate, never tried out roc mining

[north oyster]

ROC can earn about 200k per trip, Prospector tops out at 275k aUEC per trip

[sage dragon]

ooh okay, not bad

[north oyster]

Upside with ROC is no refining, you sell gems straight out.

So you can put funds back in wallet quicker

[hollow sedge]

200K????

thats a lot

[sage dragon]

just go to a place on the planet and sell at any terminal?

[north oyster]

Yes, the hadanite gems are worth 270 aUEC each

[north oyster]

most any outpost that has a trading terminal

[sage dragon]

so don't even have to leave aberdeen?

[north oyster]

If not buying, then the Admin at a space station

correct

[hollow sedge]

so now i go to either Anderson Norgaard Aberdeen

right

[north oyster]

Aberdeen the moon, Anderson or Norgaad the outpost

[hollow sedge]

damn the cutlass is a nice ship

[north oyster]

@hollow sedge you will be doing a PING with your ship. The gem deposits show up when you are about 2000 meters from you. The large deposits for ships show up at 10k meters but drop off radar when you get to about 2k meters from them

You may wish to watch a YT video or two to get the jest of what you need to do

[little sinew]

how can i mine stuff over 5000 mass

[little sinew]

^^

[north oyster]

You need the surge, stampede and probably a Vox

[little sinew]

would the boremax help?

[naive bane]

If I blow a rock but it was a bit overcharged, do I lose some of the potential ore?

[little sinew]

yes

[little sinew]

also c1 c2 or c3

[naive bane]

had a 27% 5000 rock but ended up with barely any quant

[north oyster]

I'm not the best for passive modules, I don't use then

[north oyster]

There is a bug, it's there. You should see it at the refinery

If you scooped the right thing

[naive bane]

there just weren't as many rocks after the big rock split

as I'm used to

Got 8 orders in the refinery tho, tomorrow is gonna be a payday 😄

most with 2-3k

1.8 mil I think

[north oyster]

That's awesome

[little sinew]

do i need the vaux c1 c2 or c3

[north oyster]

Depends on what you want to spend. 3 is the top tier

[fair oyster]

would u guys recommend the avenger titan as an upgrade from mustang alpha ?

[vivid sorrel]

How much would that cost you?

But generally the Avenger Titan is one of the better starting ships

[keen frost]

Kinda depends on what you're doing but Titan is pretty well rounded

[fair oyster]

would cost £24 which isnt bad tbf

[blazing cedar]

It's the one I'd recommend for most people

[fair oyster]

ive heard great things about the titan like its a decent fighter plus it has that bit of cargo space which is mainly what im lookin for

alright cool

[viral lark]

Titan can pretty much do it all for a starter

[vivid sorrel]

Except the 325a, which beats it..in style 😄

[queen lantern]

What is good cargo to buy and sell when i have mercury

[dapper mesa]

Anyone else having issues with scanning? Blue boxes show up, but when I narrow the ping angle, nothing else will show up until like 1500m, no white diamonds, no blue rock icons, nothing

[viral lark]

!tradetools

[wary tusk]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[north oyster]

I would recommend saving and going up to the Cutlass Black

[north oyster]

In the Halo or on surface?

[dapper mesa]

Both

It was working fine yesterday, until suddenly it wasn't. Have tried deleting shaders, deleting user file, and complete uninstall and reinstall.

[north oyster]

In the Halo yesterday I didn't have any issues. The ones that didn't scan were duds

Your targets will vanish from 2k in

[dapper mesa]

I'm talking from far out, I can't even scan to see what asteroid/rock type is until I get close up to it now

[north oyster]

In mining mode with ping?

[dapper mesa]

yep

[north oyster]

I hope to be gone in about an hour, I'll test it then

[dapper mesa]

As in, wide ping to locate general areas, then narrow ping to scan for details including rock type, mass, etc

I'm tearing my hair out lol

I don't want to go back to having to fly to each individual rock to figure out if I might want it or not lol

[north oyster]

The only reason if if you're not in the zone for the narrow band scan

Did you try reclaiming the ship?

Be sure to remove modules

[dapper mesa]

I didn't think to try that, ty

[north oyster]

I would hate to think that component would fail

[calm hazel]

Imagine if they added component degradation over time, so if you had your ship out too long a component might fail and your ship might randomly explode

wait...

[north oyster]

LOL

The ROC famous for that

[dapper mesa]

lol they already do that

[north oyster]

Fail, but not explode

[dapper mesa]

Don't worry, I'm sure they will, for "immersion"

[north oyster]

I had modules blowing up while I was using ping. Blew up three Surge units

[timber venture]

Guys, been mining with the rented greycat/roc combo, I know most guides suggest you use this till you can get a prospector for quantanium but I was wondering can you just use the rented prospector to mine gems instead?

[vivid sorrel]

no they will explode, too much power

[timber venture]

ohhh gotchya

[vivid sorrel]

You can only do big ore rocks with prospector

[topaz burrow]

I mean https://youtu.be/jIJlFYLBN9U

[timber venture]

Bro I logged in at 17:30 and basically ran into bugs for straight 3 hours lol, just trying to keep interactions with things to a minimum (for example the loading/unloading of the roc etc)

So saying 400ks fine if your game runs smooth but mine just isnt, had to relog/respawn stuff about 4-5 times today lol

[topaz burrow]

Oh nah, this just shows how prospector deals with gems

[timber venture]

ohhhh

[topaz burrow]

Every mining is random, sometimes you win sometimes you lose sadly

[timber venture]

Yeah noticed... my third day with my friends, we all love the game and see the crazy potential of it, but we all agree its in a rough state lol

Had a lot of wow moments playing

[topaz burrow]

My first few prospector mining was mostly me exploding rocks or flying for.hours finding nothing. Takes time to master

[timber venture]

Yeah gem mining seems simple, just tough to have a session without bugging out

[topaz burrow]

Might be better to do other game loops now like bunkers or space bounties and save up for a mole. You can 4 crew that beast. Just need to wait for next patch formmole to be fixed

Yeah true, but that's star citizen for you :)

[timber venture]

Yeah heard they are pushing for Q1 release next year but unless they go hard on the bugs I dunno if I can see that happening lol

Last thing they want is to go down the New World path

I mean they waited it out this long because they know the games not ready so hopefully they stick to that Mantra

[topaz burrow]

:)

[earnest crystal]

Capsel I watched a few more vids I think with the wave thing and if keybind the brant I can make it work

[north oyster]

that combo should do you pretty good. Best spot is Aberdeen with the Pembroke armor. But knowing how to leverage the ping and make the turns is what will earn you the best coin. For the ROC I would say roughly about 200k aUEC per hour should be reasonable

[earnest crystal]

But yes impact was no the greatest choice for a begginer

[north oyster]

the secret sauce of Star Citizen ... the biggest "IF"
this build is a dumpster fire, but hopefully 3.17.2 in a couple of weeks will be better

[timber venture]

Yeah looking forward to the bug fixes, literally just fell through the space station, lol, will have to the try the pembroke on aberdeen, was mostly doing daymar to be honest

[north oyster]

I just logged and chat is crashed. I'm reluctant to even begin anything

Armor at Tammany &Sons

The hotter the planet, the more hadanite

[north oyster]

One more tip to keep in mind. Once you have the ROC loaded, Quantum jump to orbital marker OM-1 and dive to the planet from there

[timber venture]

Yeah have been doing that, I know OM1 is always daytime

[north oyster]

ftw, very cool

don't do like me and lawn dart because the altimeter might be wrong

[timber venture]

Funnily enough, when ive flown with other people they complain I come down too fast, Ive come close a few times trying to pull up lol

[north oyster]

If you like mining and end up getting a Prospector, I think you will enjoy it and the income will be really nice

[timber venture]

Yeah I watched a few videos and know prospector / quantanium mining is the main goal, think this was what I watched, he goes through all the gadgets/modules etc, pretty in depth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e5lKV_s6cc

[topaz burrow]

That's 3.13 might be a tad outdated

Have a look at Red Monster SC YouTube channel he is all dedicated to mining. Everyone follows his advises

[timber venture]

Alright sounds good, ill have a look

[naive bane]

what's the most % quant possible in a rock?

[thorny plaza]

THought I was being clever mining on MT moons for Quant. 33% higher spawn rate than Lyria, yield bonus on quant at Mic L1

but Euterpe can have clusters of rocks other than quant, and the wind makes it waaaaaaay harder than mining on Lyria

am I missing anything, or is this the reason every youtube video still recommends Lyria despite the MT moons having higher spawn rate?

[topaz burrow]

They all repeat the same things

Currently best place with scan changes is Aaron but they don't tell you that

[thorny plaza]

what makes that the best place to mine?

Just that you can travel at max speed without atmo?

[topaz burrow]

In Aaron belt you can scan rocks from 12km away and when in mining mode it will tell you if it's quant or not. So you basically just fly forwards pinging and looking what rocks appear if quant you fly closer to check % if low you just continue

[thorny plaza]

mining mode scans the rock further away in aaron halo than on moons? On moons the mining laser scans at about 3km I think

[topaz burrow]

Ez money

Yah

Just watch this https://youtu.be/rLOx_bfg_eM

[jaunty laurel]

To be fair, you can do active angle tuning on moons as well, but it seems to work better in the belt

[thorny plaza]

I have been doing 179° scans, then 2° scans on boxes to resolve for 2+ markers, and then while I fly around looking for the multiple rock spawns I generally fly over the single rocks on the way to scan with the mining laser

[topaz burrow]

Yeah that in Lyria. It could be a bug this duo spots for quant. In Aaron you know what rock it is from 12km no guessing

Anyway, Aaron is making me a millionaire this patch :)

[thorny plaza]

🙂

I got my prospector 3 days ago and have made about 1.6m so far, that was just on lyria

sounds like it's time to try Aaron Halo mining

[topaz burrow]

Nice! That's good turnout

I had been super lucky in Aaron. Maybe it's me. But I can do 2m worth of ore in 4hrs

[thorny plaza]

holy shit, wow. In a prospector?

[naive bane]

def try the halo! Switched from lyria to halo and it's much better!

[thorny plaza]

heh, will do!

[naive bane]

make sure you know how to use the active ping system

[topaz burrow]

Ya. I'm only stopping on rocks that fill me to the brim with quant no messing about

[naive bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

100% worth learning

[thorny plaza]

on Lyria it's been taking me 30-60min to find a rock worth mining and so far my highest yield has been 30scu of quant. Anything over 26scu I'm happy generally

thanks guys I'll watch both those videos

[naive bane]

they are from the same youtuber, might be about some of the same stuff but they are great

[thorny plaza]

yeah I have been using his cheat sheet webpage a lot since I got my ROC

but didn't know he had a youtube channel

[naive bane]

instead of hurting your eyes looking for stones in the snow you just scan some stuff from 12km away and you see if its quant or not

[thorny plaza]

yeah, lol I gotta say I was tired of looking to see if it's 1 or 2 object markers when I resolved on the 2° scan

[naive bane]

yeah no more of that

still gotta get lucky to get a quant rock fast but it's much easier to spot them

and they seem to be easier to crack on the halo belt, you don't need extra modules, they make it faster though

[topaz burrow]

Yes, aaron rocks have max mass of 5122 so just need Lancet head

[thorny plaza]

ah ok. So what modules do you use then, FLTR-XLs?

[naive bane]

also, 3% yield bonus on cru L1

I don't use any because I'm too lazy to get them lol

but I heard filter XL and surge is good

surge just gives your laser progress a boost

[thorny plaza]

yeah I've been using Surge/Stampede/Brandt so far

[naive bane]

they're fine, just not needed in halo belt

[topaz burrow]

I don't use any. You can bring surge to crack quicker but I dont

[naive bane]

same

[topaz burrow]

I'm cheapskate. No cutting my profit for modules lol

[naive bane]

saves maybe a few minutes thats it

I got like 11 refinery orders for tomorrow now lol

It's gonne be payday

[topaz burrow]

Smells like a new ship in here lol

[naive bane]

yup 400i

is what I've been saving for

[thorny plaza]

how many times have you completed a sell run down planetside and then had the game just wipe off the value of that transaction when you log off?

[topaz burrow]

Nice one! I'm saving for 600i

[naive bane]

never I think

[thorny plaza]

ah nice. I had one of my ROC Hadanite runs just pretend like it never happened, royally pissed me off

[naive bane]

I think I will save for the 600i after this, I don't like the current interior but it should be updated in august, so got some time for that

[thorny plaza]

and now I'm paranoid it'll happen again when I sell a full MSR' worth of quant for way more money

[topaz burrow]

Oh. I didn't know it's up for redecoration

[naive bane]

yea it's being update to become gold standard, and they mentioned they are completely redoing the interior, aiming to be done by end of august

[topaz burrow]

Alright. Not bad

[naive bane]

I haven't had it happen yet, so hopefully thats a rare thing

[thorny plaza]

I wish you luck 😄

(not meant to be sarcastic if it sounds like it)

[naive bane]

I might just rent the largest cargo ship tomorrow to sell all my quant, don't feel like making so many trips

not trying to flex haha just been mining hard today

ty

[thorny plaza]

what's the biggest rentable cargo atm

taurus?

[naive bane]

I don't think you can rent the taurus

[topaz burrow]

Think it's Andromeda 96scu

No sure

[naive bane]

yea think so too

[topaz burrow]

Just get one 3.5m

[naive bane]

lol

[thorny plaza]

can't you rent MSR? that's 114

[naive bane]

I'm not that rich yet

[topaz burrow]

After 400i ofc :)

[naive bane]

yeah maybe

[naive bane]

no can't rent that

[thorny plaza]

so do you guys mine in the high density part of the belt or do you take Red Monster's advice and mine in low dens areas

[naive bane]

I do belt 3, kinda medium density

I like it

personal preference I suppose

[topaz burrow]

Haha same either 3 or 7 depending what side I'm going in

[north oyster]

NEW MINING TIP No longer ignore single asteroids in the Halo. Scan to see if Q. Last three solo Q rocks were 38%, 42% and 20%

[topaz burrow]

I never ignore solo rocks in aaron

[naive bane]

oh never done that haha

[topaz burrow]

If it's q type I'm on it

[naive bane]

only did that on lyria

[thorny plaza]

thanks guys I appreciate the tips

gonna try band 7 leaving from Mic L1

but that's now a job for tomorrow 😉 gn folks, happy mining

[topaz burrow]

Ping me if any questions

[thorny plaza]

thanks man I appreciate that

[fair oyster]

any good cargo ships for around 500k ?

[swift shuttle]

@topaz burrow What is a good ship to store 2+ rovers and be able to also transport refined ore (seperate mining missions)

[north oyster]

Best entry level cargo would probably be the MAX 120 SCU for 2.2m aUEC. I'm not sure how they RAFT stacks up

[viral lark]

RAFT would be okay if the doors/elevators weren't bugged atm

[scarlet rover]

idc that she's bugged she's still sexy as hell

[earnest crystal]

so after succesfully breaking a quan rock how much can my ship take and if there are some other nearby rocks can i destroyed all of them and gather as much as i can before the timer begins ?

[sage dragon]

break all rocks before you start to collect. as soon as you pick up quant the timer starts

[reef smelt]

I asked this earlier but I didn’t really get a response: Is it better to mine with 2 Prospectors or a MOLE?

[marble crater]

Mole is totally broken and unusable now so use 2 Prospectors

[verbal cargo]

Generally would be MOLE since it has the cargo space of 3 prospectors. But it is broken in this patch

[sage dragon]

what's broken about the mole rn?

[marble crater]

Can't collect ore

[sage dragon]

oh okay

[reef smelt]

Well I don’t have enough money for Mole so when I have enough it will probably be fixed.

[marble crater]

Highly recommend learning to mine in a Prospector either way. Go to the Mole as a next step kind of thing

[reef smelt]

I have a prospector but my friend may get one or I may get a mole

[reef smelt]

I’m trying to decide what to do

[marble crater]

For 2 people, 2 prospectors is faster but I still prefer the Mole personally. Tough choice

[reef smelt]

Another question: Is the MOLE able to mine quantanium fast enough to fill its cargo?

[sage dragon]

can you do quantanium effectively in a mole? I haven't mined alot, bought the prospector like 1-2 day ago, but the quant rocks I've found, is pretty much exactly enough for prospector, barely any left at all

lol

[verbal cargo]

yes

[reef smelt]

Ok thanks

[marble crater]

You have to look for quantainium clusters in a Mole. Having a Scout is recommended

[verbal cargo]

takes a little more searching but it is not unusual to get 70+scu in a mole

[sage dragon]

ah okay

so not just take the first 4-5k mass, 30-ish%+ rock then? gotta find a cluster

[verbal cargo]

yea need at least two good rocks

[marble crater]

Yeah typically you do this planetside on Lyria as it's easier to find clusters there

[sage dragon]

ah gotcha

[marble crater]

Halo is easier for solo/single rocks

[sage dragon]

I do love the look of argo ships, but the only one I got is argo cargo, lol

more argo ships pls

[marble crater]

Argo Raft is a really cool ship but also broken this patch lmao

[sage dragon]

all the argos are broken lmao

[mighty iris]

Question. I am watching a YouTube video and guy is saying you can fit a grey cat into avenger Titan. Is that true? Has anyone here tried?

[sage dragon]

no but a black cat can fit

jk... greycat.. you mean a roc? I doubt that fits..

[mighty iris]

Yea

Roc

For mining

[scarlet rover]

They keep giving MISC love, they need to give Argo some attention as well

[mighty iris]

I am pretty new, and barely have enough to afford it. Wondering before I buy

[scarlet rover]

all good. Greycat is a brand

[sage dragon]

I want some solo argo ships, not multicrew, or atleast not "forced" multicrew like raft and mole.. where you "need" to have a crew, for the turret(raft) and the lasers(mole), if that makes any sense.. like either completely solo ship, or a solo mainly, with most control to pilot, guns and stuff, and maybe a small turret idk, like freelancer/cutty/connie/vanguard, most to the pilot but a lil turret so it can be multicrew, but doesn't "require" it.

[sage dragon]

I haven't actually tried it out, if roc fits in avenger, but I hear everyone say cutty black for roc mining

[scarlet rover]

RAFT is not forced multicrew.
Also we have tons of ships for people without friends, already. Expanse, Prospector, all the dogfighters. I wanna see more team play

just not like "Orion" big

2-3 crew ship would be great

[mighty iris]

I’ll have to experiment with a friend when I get home

[scarlet rover]

I believe the only starters it fits inside are the Nomad and Cutty Black

[mighty iris]

That’s what a friend said. But the don’t have the avenger to test it either

[scarlet rover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/jj8xo2/can_you_fit_an_roc_into_an_avenger_titan/

it does not

[marble crater]

only the Hoverquad and the PTV ground vehicle fit

[scarlet rover]

it can fit the Greycat golfcart not the GC ROC

[rugged axle]

mining lyria for quant, where you refine at?

[scarlet rover]

the L1 stations have refineries

[earnest crystal]

my first quant load

i got 25scu is that good ?

[marble crater]

max is 32 so you did great

[earnest crystal]

i am still unexpirienced but i ran out of brant

it was a 5k rock at 60ish

[marble crater]

you'll get around 24scu after refining which is still around $210K

not bad for 1 rock

[earnest crystal]

nice

waht method ?

the one that takes a while right ?

idc about quick money i want max profits

[marble crater]

Ferron or Dinyx

[scarlet rover]

check the pinned chart

[earnest crystal]

i did thats why i think ill do the dinxy

[scarlet rover]

dinyx is the best cost and yield, if you dont mind waiting a day

[earnest crystal]

what to did with the alumminum i got ?

[scarlet rover]

either refine to get some small cash from it or just sell it for pennies at the other console

the ore trading console next to the refining one

[opal gale]

Profitable trading routes rn?

[scarlet rover]

check UEX and SCTT

[opal gale]

wish trading wasnt so one commodity only thing

[scarlet rover]

?

[opal gale]

pretty much only laranite and agricium on the lists

[scarlet rover]

except the trading volume drives down margins due to its effects on supply and demand

so the pilots all flocking to a "best" commodity are fucking the market

[opal gale]

I like this game more than ED but ED has better trading

[scarlet rover]

did you just join during ILW?

[opal gale]

Ive been around for abt a year

[scarlet rover]

wow

[opal gale]

only just started trading though

[scarlet rover]

so you know you're playtesting an alpha right

[opal gale]

i know

[scarlet rover]

oh ok just checking

[opal gale]

just saying i wish trading wasnt so all or nothing

[scarlet rover]

tbh it's taken a backseat for the last couple patches while they focus on other gameplay areas

the next big update for trading is anticipated this fall for the cargo refactor for 3.18

the youtube vid they put out today has some other updates theyre working on for trade consoles

[earnest crystal]

i think the most imp one is making the ones at the refinery work

i like cabbagge but not that much

[scarlet rover]

but I think we won't see more balance come to commodities until the Quantum NPC simulator is up and running, so they can simulate sales and purchases of goods on the backend

they did incorporate quantum simulation of fuel sales/purchases for the refueling gameplay they added so its plausible they could be working on it to come in with the cargo update

[scarlet rover]

what did you have in mind for trading gameplay?

[opal gale]

just like, there was more profit to be made because rn it seems like you make $100k or $2k

[scarlet rover]

yup. and there isn't really a way to make the big profits without a C2 or Cat

[opal gale]

ive got a cat

[scarlet rover]

but I think that current focus on just scale margins is part of the problem

people have been saying they should add cargo contract missions, where you are just paid to move goods for someone else. NPC or player

like EVE has

[opal gale]

I think the profits will go up quite alot bc of cargo refactoring

[opal gale]

thats what I was thinking of exactly

[scarlet rover]

then even an Avenger could get decent cash for a starter just taking those contracts and moving stuff

[opal gale]

kinda like a trucking company

[scarlet rover]

instead of needing to invest hundreds of thousands of credits

[opal gale]

trading is sketchy

my friend lost 700k bc a dude got into his pilot seat and since we were in an armistice zone but not on a pad we couldnt do anything

[scarlet rover]

I actually got into the trading gameplay bc I love the chill aspect of getting to fly your ship. But with the current state of the alpha it's so risky to fly around with 1M worth credits in your hold

[marble crater]

hopefully they add cargo missions with cargo refactor

[scarlet rover]

it's not even 30K I'm scared of it's these random ship destructions I've seen

[marble crater]

deliver X cargo with some npc's sent to pirate you etc

[scarlet rover]

eventually I'd love for players to be able to put out contracts

like beacons

but like, hey I bought these ship components and weapons at this station but need them moved to A18

ill pay this much

[opal gale]

once theres server meshing and many systems i could see it

[opal gale]

id pay someone to buy me armor from grim hex and deliver it

[scarlet rover]

SPACEAZON PRIME

[opal gale]

wish you could share local inventories for a certain time

[scarlet rover]

lol

[opal gale]

creating an org with that name rn

[scarlet rover]

Actually I foresee the RAFT getting a lot more love once Pyro is out

that thing's fuel tanks go fo-evah

[opal gale]

i hope it can load and unload faster

[marble crater]

yeah long travellers will get more viable with Pyro for sure

[scarlet rover]

I mean the RAFT was advertised with that. I guess we'll see this fall

[reef smelt]

What mass and quant percentages should I be looking for when MOLE mining?

[scarlet rover]

since after the refactor, theoretically the C2 pilots are gonna need to find a way to load and unload that entire hold

at least Cats have the side bays to make it faster

[opal gale]

the mole does not work

[scarlet rover]

but RAFT can just boom, land, drop, grab, go

[reef smelt]

I don’t have it yet, but when it does work what should I look for?

[opal gale]

maybe itll be used as a loader and unloader? you can easily load other ships

[marble crater]

looking for quantainium clusters. 2 or more quant rocks

[opal gale]

i only bother for 15% over

[scarlet rover]

the hotfix is scheduled to be released with the next build, should be NLT 3.17.2

[reef smelt]

What mass?

[scarlet rover]

hm I don't think so just bc of how its crane is positioned, looks like only for the 3 conexes it can carry

but I do hope they buff the Argo Cargo

2SCU is not enough if they expect that thing to be ferrying for Cats and C2s

but also, if you're loading the big containers on a C2 there's no way you can lift that with a handheld tractor. so they need something for that

[serene quest]

Any word on whether or not asteroid mining was fucked by an errant decimal point?

[scarlet rover]

no? what do you mean

[serene quest]

you almost never see high quant rocks in the belt anymore

more often than not they're under 5%

even clusters

super rare if you find one as high as in the 20's

[scarlet rover]

yeah I've had bad luck lately as well, some dude on here earlier claimed he saw a 60

[serene quest]

pics or it never happened

[scarlet rover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFWyEjFd8DM
just look up some guides

[marble crater]

this is what I look for when in the Mole
https://streamable.com/h3ns8y

on lyria it's always Quant in clusters

[jaunty laurel]

must have worse luck than me, I've been managing to find >20% today, just turned in a 36%

[serene quest]

tf

between Arc and Cru4?

[jaunty laurel]

I've been mining in Band 5, between Arc and Hur

[earnest crystal]

soicy rock op

will i stop spinning ?

[river cove]

Hi all can you tell me when the timer actually start with quantium load?at the first QT jump?

[earnest crystal]

moemnt u pick it up

[river cove]

ah really? we always look for the biggest quantium deposit then

[earnest crystal]

i mean sometimes there is a huge rock that u cant crack or it has more quant than u can carry

but yes usuallly big the better

[river cove]

ya I know the only think didn't t know when the clock start 🙂 I tried the asteroid no succes then in Lyra I found lots of rocks at 35% but when crack open then was about 15% but is ok still learning

[earnest crystal]

lyra is the way

[jaunty laurel]

aaron halo is still good for prospector

[river cove]

@jaunty laurel yes but it take 4 ever to finde a good rock

[jaunty laurel]

are you using the active angle tuning technique? It takes some time, sure, but being able to see what type of rock you're looking at from 12km makes light work of it

[river cove]

@jaunty laurel ya I do not know what that is sorry

[jaunty laurel]

https://youtu.be/vz8TOCUa0Ms

[river cove]

uhmm

[dusk plaza]

hey ya'll new here hows it going!

well this is exiting I'm going to log off before i get over stimulated

[earnest crystal]

gold

cracked an 8.5k rock

op op

[vestal seal]

did you use the new mining placeables

[earnest crystal]

what is that ?

[topaz burrow]

Sorry just saw. Have a look at Andromeda or go big and get c2

[viral lark]

So I'm hauling cargo and the shop just let me sell only 1 unit, then immediately another 1 unit, then all my cargo. What?

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah that's just wierd. I mean, last one could just be a server tick refreshing stock, depending on amount..idk

[thorny plaza]

MSR can carry two ROCs fairly comfortably, and 114 SCU refined ore.

[topaz burrow]

@vivid sorrel Remember your Aril yellow suit, did you loot that or bought somewhere?

i keep thinking about it

[vivid sorrel]

Bought it at..hmm Shubin i think?

100% not looted

!itemfinder probably ^^

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[topaz burrow]

yeah i know aril standard blue is avail to buy but cant find yellow

[vivid sorrel]

Ah, it's called the hazard variant

[topaz burrow]

oh yeah baby

[thorny plaza]

yellow is available at most station cargo centres

[topaz burrow]

yes you a right, cheers

it also changes your markers to yellow eh?

[thorny plaza]

yeah lol

[topaz burrow]

nice, love the yellow. Makes asteroid farming easier

[thorny plaza]

that's a good call actually

[topaz burrow]

ye, i use the standard commoners blue for that

but yellow baby

here i come

[vivid sorrel]

Only annoyance is you have to log to swap colors, if you don't login with the helmet on

[topaz burrow]

kek?

[thorny plaza]

aah that explains it, I thought it was a bit unpredictable

[topaz burrow]

like put helmet on, relog?

[vivid sorrel]

Yepp

[topaz burrow]

gotcha

[vivid sorrel]

If on at login=always yellow no matter if you swap helmet

[topaz burrow]

you guys seen the new concept on trading UI ?

[vivid sorrel]

no, where?

[topaz burrow]

yesterday;s ISC

[vivid sorrel]

I don't really have much hope...their UI department so far hasn't shown to be very...good.

[topaz burrow]

let me grab screenshot

also will show you demand, check under the commodity name

[thorny plaza]

from the video I can't say I thought it looked any more informative than the old one

[topaz burrow]

i mean atleast it's sharp and not blurry lol. I think it needs few changes, but better imo

[vivid sorrel]

hmm... yeah idk. atleast there is a full screen info thing now

Right direction!

[topaz burrow]

yes

the bloke was talking about cart system so there's a chance we can sell/buy en masse not one by one

[vivid sorrel]

They should hire some EVE Ui people as consultants 😄

Granted their UI is boring AF. It has all the info

[topaz burrow]

yes please, give me a damn list dont care for icons :c

[pastel flame]

After dragging 30+ multi tools into a C2 to move them someplace else

[topaz burrow]

see I wrote an AutoHotKey script that moves left to right or right to left with a button click. I just sit back n relax 😄

same for pressing quick sell and ok when selling shait

[lusty remnant]

Guys it is possible that I am loosing reputation when I accept a mission for delivery that is paying 45K but I will not do it bcs game crashed or I had to log out ?
Bcs I am not checking and looks like my Runner rank does not have green anymore. And even junior runner is missing like one green fill in the bar.

[topaz burrow]

Yes, game crash counts as mission abandon

[north oyster]

All the reputation systems have a "slow leak" built in

Besides the crash out penalty

[lusty remnant]

aha ok

[naive island]

Hey guys, started mining quant yesterday and i have a question moved from my curiosity mainly

Let's say ive got a 45% quant rock, full 32scu cargo of it and then i refine and sell to area18, how much aUEC will i make approximately?

[thorny plaza]

270k

[naive island]

oh okay, not bad at all

[thorny plaza]

you can get things down to about 1 complete run per 30min it's very good money

[naive island]

obv you make more by farming ERTs with a retaliator, but that's of course a different playstyle

[naive island]

so you recommend mining for at least 30mins everyday? asking that cuz i also like bounty hunting, so i'd do them both

[thorny plaza]

err

no I mean, it will take you 30mins to complete 1 mining run, typically

[topaz burrow]

depending what cargo ship you have. I've got Andromeda which fits 3 prospector loads, so I do miing in sucnessoins of 3

[thorny plaza]

you might get very lucky and find a rock worth mining and turn it all around in 15min

[naive island]

currently ive got a Taurus, which has 179scu (the most out of all connies), but im planning to buy an hercules A2

[naive island]

yeah thats right, you must be very lucky ahah

[topaz burrow]

yeah thats good. Hard to say if 30min is worth it. You might find a good rock or not in that time 🙂

I usually do full day of mining and then go back to my other gameloops

untill i feel like mining again

[naive island]

maybe you asked urself why an Hercules A2 and not a C2? of course C2 has the most cargo out of all ships in SC atm, but said that i don't really trust servers, i'm gonna choose an A2 cuz it has way more fire power with also x4 moabs and also like 270scu cargo space

[naive island]

yeah thats a good way, im doing this too ahah

[hollow sedge]

idek where or what to mine i even have a prospector rented lmao

[topaz burrow]

Rented prospector cant crack quant, so you need to aim at Bexalite

[tardy flower]

Greetings everyone,

I just want to mine with Quantainium a Prospector.
With a Lancer, what passive modules should i equip ?

Thanks you 😉

[topaz burrow]

watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npwGK_SV_zY and this how new scan chanegs work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms&t=61s

[topaz burrow]

if you mine in Aaron halo you dont need any modules, just lancet will do. With Lancet you can mine up to 5122 mass rock which is the max you find in aaron

[tardy flower]

Red Monster SC is the référence !

[tardy flower]

And for Lyria?

I feel i find more Quantainium rock on Lyria.

[topaz burrow]

you can still only crack 5122 rocks

[thorny plaza]

modules that maximise the size you can mine are Focus for passive, or you can use a method popping Surge/Stampede to try to crack bigger rocks with active modules

[topaz burrow]

you could get surge and stampade to force crack quicker

[thorny plaza]

it isn't necessary to crack bigger rocks than 5122 to fill prospector tho, it's a function of both mass and % quant

[topaz burrow]

ya, if you are just starting using surge can be hard. You can overshot to overcharge ez

[thorny plaza]

and sometimes even if you hit the top of green with surge just right, you can still find it drains out of green before it pops

[tardy flower]

@thorny plaza @topaz burrow thanks a lot ! I will buy you coffee on raffinery 😉

[white hemlock]

That's what paring with stampede is for

[vivid sorrel]

If you just surge at start, there won't be any issue with overcracks, but, you won't start in the optimal zone instantly either, so eh. You still save minutes

[finite hinge]

just did my first ever quantanium run, prospector/lancet/fltr/surge/brandt - was too chicken to use the surge but slowly getting used to how it all works

Quick question, should I just jettison cargo (aluminium/inert etc) after I have started my work order

[white hemlock]

Don't need to. It will be discarded automatically if it wasn't selected for the work order

[finite hinge]

thanks

[tardy flower]

What's about refine thé aluminium too. It will brings more crédits right?

[finite hinge]

I didn't have much, and would rather save space for quant, I just did a second run which was 99% quantanium though so I'm happy

27/32scu of quantanium in one rock which was good

[thorny plaza]

Yeah even then it can still drop out of green before completing if the rock is big / high resistance enough

[thorn spindle]

Anyone has any experience with refinement orders disappearing from the arc l1 station ?

[sage dragon]

Uh oh.. I got a few quant refine orders on arc l1 O.O

[finite hinge]

is this big of a cluster normal? holy shit

[thorny plaza]

https://i.imgur.com/HrTgLwB.png

[finite hinge]

nice

[vivid sorrel]

drooool!

[north oyster]

no chatter at all on vanishing refinery orders, you could scan the Issue Council and see if anyone else has reported that.

[blissful robin]

Does the more money put into cargo mostly mean higher yield?

[vivid sorrel]

Margin is usually higher with more expensive cargo, but far from always. And it depends on stock level and pricing too

[blissful robin]

ok

[thorn spindle]

thank you good sir ill go take a peek

[sand saddle]

Noob question, do moon surfaces have nodes that can be mined by the multi tool?

[toxic citrus]

No

[sand saddle]

Thanks!

[blissful robin]

I bought 24k worth of SLAM on Celin and it only showed two boxes but I guess that wasnt right bc when I sold it it said i only had 8 scu worth

(it shows two crates of it in my ship)

[topaz burrow]

Cargo isn't showing correct. That's normal

[blissful robin]

but when i sell it it only allowed me to sell 50 SLAM for 5k idk where the rest of my SLAM is

[viral lark]

Is the store inventory full?

[blissful robin]

wdym

[vivid sorrel]

If it's these two consoles they only take 500 at max

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/SLAM

ah, and one takes 5000

but far less pay

[viral lark]

You said you could only sell 50 units so I'm wondering if the shop inventory is full

[blissful robin]

i was doing this one

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah cru-l5 has 500 limit, and if others also sell there gonna have to restock the limit

[blissful robin]

so do i go to other No Question asked consoles or what (im new to trading)

[vivid sorrel]

How many units did you buy initially?

[blissful robin]

I believe close to 100-170

[vivid sorrel]

If it was low, you can probably wait a few minutes, if it was high, check the other, but be AWARE of the sell price

Yeah probably wait it out at that number

[blissful robin]

so just chill at the station for a bit?

[dapper mesa]

lancet at lorville or NB?

[vivid sorrel]

basically

[vivid sorrel]

!itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[blissful robin]

ight thanks

[serene quest]

Hey Trip, have you been having any different luck in space using different routes.? In terms of % of Q on the rocks?

like goin from Arc1 to Cru4 or to Hur5 etc etc

[vivid sorrel]

God i hate landing at New Babbage with a C2 space potato when they give me a tiny slot. That and winds it's like they WANT me to go boom 😄

[north oyster]

I have tried band 2 and wasn't happy. Band 4 seemed pretty good but I didn't like the crowded density of the asteroids. Band 1 has been pretty good. it is hard to hit but worth it. If you are coming from the OUTSIDE, the Band 8 should be a good place to try. Also Band 6 should be good. Also, survey solo rocks too because I have found some nice high % Quan from single asteroids.

[wanton grail]

thinking abt getting into the quant game. Just a few questions, i keep looking up videos and none of them talk abt mining near cru L1 but ive heard that's the best place to sell. Whats a good drop location near cru L1

[scarlet rover]

Can you mine gem deposits with a prospector?

[toxic citrus]

Yes

But

You cannot extract the gems

You will need to pick them up by hand

[scarlet rover]

OH lol defeats the purpose I guess

At least solo, I could see that being real tedious

[river cove]

can we sale quantium at area 18?

?

[sage dragon]

you sell or refine ore at L1 stations, refined can then be sold at Lorville, Area 18, and New Babbage

[river cove]

thanks

[sage dragon]

[calm gorge]

Anyone have a good build for a MOLE?

new to mining not sure what mining head and modules are good

[young wren]

Is there any point to selling quant unrefined or always better to refine and sell even if I have to eat the cost of ship rental to truck it?

[sage dragon]

idk exactly what it sells for unrefined.. but 260k profit should still be more than selling unrefined even after renting a truck

[gaunt fiber]

If you are in need of some quick money, yeah, but I wouldn't recommend it. QT is risky to mine so you should benefit from the full price.

[young wren]

Cheers, I'll go the refining route then

How long does it take to fill up the prospector per run anyway?

[gaunt fiber]

You can fill it up in one run.

You'll be looking for a 4-5K rock with 30% or more QT

[sage dragon]

https://uexcorp.space/mining

here you can fill in rock mass and % of Quant, and see how much Quant SCU you will get

but yea basically just look for 4-5k with 30%+ like yentra said ^

[lilac patio]

I have a big rock, 7.9k with 48 percent quant can someone help me break it?

currently on lyria

[young wren]

Thanks fellas, appreciate it @gaunt fiber @sage dragon

[gaunt fiber]

I can help. I'm not on Lyria, but I'll make my way to ARC L1 to pick up my Prospector.

[lilac patio]

thanks

My SC is Tincan42

[gaunt fiber]

I'm on my way.. jumping from Crusader, so it might be a minute or two.

once I get there, I'll get in menus and add ya as a friend.

[gaunt fiber]

happy to help!

[serene quest]

I've noticed that too. I tend to get pretty decent luck in 1-2 q clusters. More so than the entire combined clusters of 4 or mor

[serene quest]

Sold raw would be about half as much

[gaunt fiber]

@lilac patio - I'm in menus... look for a friend request

[lilac patio]

got it

[winged furnace]

I'm loving this game, but the bugs are killing me. Trying to make some money mining an my game crashing keep causing me to lose everything...

Finally got the money to buy the hot weather suit for aberdeen and poof, I exploded while flying through the air, and now that is gone... Maybe I should have stuck with bunkers. I just love the mining game.

[north oyster]

Was just on a server that must have had close to zero Quantainium on it. Lots of duds you knew were Q clusters. I bailed after 20 min of trash scans. I'm going to try again in a minute

[scarlet rover]

You can sell refined at Orison TDD as well can't you? @river cove

[sage dragon]

oh yea, orison exists. Yea all TDD's (I'm pretty sure)

[north oyster]

I would avoid Orison. You can fly from CRU-L1 to Area18 and back way faster

[scarlet rover]

Lol, sad but true. It does exist however

[river cove]

why my mining modules desapiar every time I log off??????

[north oyster]

I sent you a DM

[scarlet rover]

like the disclaimers said when you got it, it's not a game yet, it's an alpha build and you're a playtester. approach it with that philosophy and you might enjoy yourself more.

[wraith cairn]

Is there still some kind of bug that makes the mole basically unusable? Im not even sure what the bug is, I just remember someone mentioning it xP.

[hardy mesa]

Yes

[wraith cairn]

What does the bug do exacly?

[marble crater]

Mole can't collect ore. Bit of a problem

[trail acorn]

yeah its bugged

[thin escarp]

@calm gorge i have loadouts in my pdf thats pinned

but the mole is kinda borked rn

[white hemlock]

finally getting the hang of it

[scarlet rover]

goddamn, how

[white hemlock]

literally within 1 minute of jumping to the belt

[scarlet rover]

was it all one big rock?

[white hemlock]

1 rock

[scarlet rover]

are ya using belt 5?

[white hemlock]

im newish dont know what that means

[scarlet rover]

oh, the Aaron Halo is broken into belts, based on their distances apart

basically which portion of the halo you were in

[white hemlock]

ah. i was somewhere here

[scarlet rover]

nice

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[marble crater]

great haul! perfect run right there

[tawdry loom]

Cargo still isn't worth it?

[scarlet rover]

pretty subjective, that's up to you

[tawdry loom]

Does it net money faster than other methods?

or as much?

bunker, mining, etc

[scarlet rover]

no

I think selling your ass works fastest

[tawdry loom]

oh?

[scarlet rover]

and just throwing cash at pledges works faster

[zealous brook]

hwo do i sell minerals do i store a ship and then go to the refinery or just land it?

[tardy flower]

Store it 😉

[zealous brook]

welp lost all my minerals

stored it went to trading area in cru l1 and that shit was empty went back to the hanger and noticed the cargo went to 0

wait its still in the roc but i cant seem o refine it why?

[sage dragon]

you can only refine ore from prospector or mole

[thorny plaza]

Leave your gems in the ROC. Leave your ROC in ship your. Land your ship on pad, run in, store it. Go to Admin office (not Refinery, you can't refine gems), the ROC should be in the drop-down list on the Sell page.

[zealous brook]

yeah i went to olisar an dwas able to sell uit

[vivid sorrel]

First impact test...well it has no problem cracking 6k since i daydreamed for 4 seconds and it was like CRITICAL and blew the fuck up while i boosted away 😄

2nd test. 6.355 mass. This one was barely crackable on laser power.

Gadget would probably make it alot easier, but eh.

I did not blow that one up 😄 But first impression on the impact laser and having to use brandt on every single piece is not a playstyle i like. It's just too volatile and having to check brandt CD as well just adds another layer of "you gonna get xploded".

Yes you will be able to crack bigger rocks, if that is all you care about 😛

[marble crater]

thanks for sharing the results! quite interesting as a Lancet only dood

[vivid sorrel]

Yeah i was lancet only as well, but i saw that vid using this build come up at times, so had to test it atleast so i would have a relevant opinion 😄

[outer tree]

Hello guys, I haven't play for 2 years, how is the state of mining now ? And the scanner ?

[vivid sorrel]

I didn't play two years ago so idk 😄 But it's not bad for Quant.

[outer tree]

It's okay, I'm downloading the game, I remember my ship explode in Quantum Drive when I was full lol, i think the scanner wasn't so functionnal but I'll see. Mole or prospector ?

[vivid sorrel]

Mole is bugged atm (won't scoop quant) so prospector

[sage dragon]

scanner is working nice, can see what kind of rock it is from like 12km away. was refining in the game 2 years ago..?

[willow grail]

Are you able to mine quantanium with stock prospector and consumables?

[vivid sorrel]

not really, as you can't equip new laser or modules on a rentable prospector. Gadgets would require...many and waste of time and money

[sage dragon]

get a lancet and no consumables

[willow grail]

Is there anything else good to mine with prospector?

[willow grail]

Thank you

[sage dragon]

as you can see, quant is more than twice the value of the next most valuable material, but yea it's still money

[vivid sorrel]

Problem with that is the other materials are just...not found in great quantities in my experience.

So it's quant or nothing in the current game IMO. Which is abit sad but makes money 😄

[rocky pendant]

can you crack quantanium if you have rent a prospector with your friend? (so we both fire at the thingie)

because i heard its easier if two are doing it

[vivid sorrel]

You can crack it with two people i'm sure. But... that's not the problem, the problem is the instability of quantum, that just gets worse after the first crack (because of higher quant %)

Basically if you somehow make the first crack, there's a snowballs chance in hell of making the smaller cracks with even greater instability. Now you could maaybe use a Sabir on those, but that would only be theoretical from my side

https://starcitizen.tools/Mining_gadget

[rocky pendant]

oh okay ty tho ^^

[chilly stag]

With Lancet + Surge + stampede you can crack 8k rocks. I dont see any reason for the Impact laser

[vivid sorrel]

You can only crack that if you time the surge correctly, and that's not easy IMO.

[thorny plaza]

Yeah. And it's still possible that even if you hit the top of green perfectly, that it drops out of green before you crack, even with a Stampede up

honestly I prefer mining in the halo, all rocks being between ~4500 and 5100 just means one less variable that can make a rock less minable, don't need modules for any of them, so you can pick whatever you like to make your life easier with whatever parts you want to improve

and I find far easier to find a rock worth mining quicker. I found a complete mining run on Lyria typically took about an hour, but I think my average trip time in the halo is about 40min

https://i.imgur.com/Pe67zSv.jpeg Found within my 1st rough scan of the trip. "Gonna be a good trip!"

Sadly none of the other rocks were worth mining, else I would have called for some help to secure it all

[feral totem]

Had a Prospector full of quant. Landed at Arc L1, dude told me “landing complete”. Went to the ASOP terminal to store said Prospector. Only “Claim” was available. Went back to pad to take off and land at another pad. No joy. F.

[north oyster]

late to the conversation but as you've gathered, it is a totally different game than it was two years ago. Let us know if you have specifics once you get back in the saddle. BTW, this build, 3.17.1 is a dumpster fire, in two weeks 3.17.2 should be coming out and much improved.

[north oyster]

Not good, I've not seen that yet. Hopefully it is a one off. You might want to check the Issue Council and contribute to a ticket is there is an IC submitted about that happening.

[solemn lance]

is the mole still broken?

[crude tiger]

Game crashed while walking to orison trade, ship full of refined cargo sitting on pad (not stored) and im about to take a different ship down to attempt sale again. You all think itll be still in my ship? Havent had this wonder occur yet

[foggy harness]

Psst. Any tips for cracking rocks beyond 5k with ease? Currently ive been using 3x Torrent IIs and gotten results after a couple mins of going at it.

[crude tiger]

What head ya usin m8?

[foggy harness]

I know surge is a thing but beyond that. I'm obviously favouring passive modules more than anything.

Lancet

I know there are Torrent 3s but they are kinda impossible to buy at the moment due to mining store terminals being broken.

[crude tiger]

Get a surge module

At new babbage. Terminal works there

[marble crater]

Buy a bunch of Surge modules and move them to your mining base

[crude tiger]

Cargo was still in ship 🤣🤣

[little sinew]

what happens to your materials if you crash your ship

[foggy harness]

What i did with my currnet stuff.

[crude tiger]

Insurance puts em back

[little sinew]

so if i had 28scu of quant it will be put back in the ship when i claim and retrieve it from new babbage

[crude tiger]

Sorry m8. Not cargo. At least not that ive seen

My bad. Speed read thru yer post

[little sinew]

i ran into arc l1 at like 1000m/s

[foggy harness]

"What are brakes, lmao"

[thorny plaza]

schoolboy error!

[little sinew]

I was full zoomed on my comms mfd and it wasnt showing up until it did and it said i was 1000m away

[thorny plaza]

you can bind a key to request landing now

Use it, 1000000000x better than having to F11 or use MFD

also, great tip whoever it was that told me Aril helmet gives yellow HUD elements! https://i.imgur.com/LB9nx2L.jpeg

[worldly spade]

what is the best cargo ship for beginers

[thorny plaza]

how 'beginner'? Literally starter ship? Or you got some stuff already and wnat to get into cargo

[worldly spade]

welli got a few things but im fairly new

acc yea im very new especially to cargo stuff

[thorny plaza]

what ship(s) have you got, and how much aUEC?

[worldly spade]

lmao i got the aurora

[thorny plaza]

ok and like, starter cash, 20k or whatever

others might weigh in with more help, but for me I think it's not worth trying to run cargo before you've earnt about a 500k credits, at that point I guess you could rent a cutlass black and still have enough creds left over to fill it and start turning profit

but I dunno, I find hauling quite a dangerous way to make money, because typically you get ~20-25% profit per run.. which means one game or server crash could wipe out 4-5 runs' worth of profit

early on with the Aurora I think I'd run delivery missions and FPS style bunker missions to get your first few hundred k credits

[worldly spade]

really? are bunker missions under bounty hunter or mercenary or what?

[thorny plaza]

but yeah hopefully someone else can give you some suggestions cos I don't know the smoothest way to get into cargo hauling from your position

both

[worldly spade]

ahh so cargo hauling is more of a father down the line type of thing to get into

[thorny plaza]

you'll bunker missions under mercenary called things like 'Security contractor evaluation' or 'Defend Occupants', 'Remove Illegal Occupants' etc., might be in caves too.

[worldly spade]

thank u tho

[thorny plaza]

I think it is. One Illegal Monitor mission pays 20k

to earn 20k on a cargo run you gotta have like, 100k worth of cargo

to have a ship that can even hold 100k of cargo you probably need to be in something no smaller than a Cutlass Black, which costs 1.3m to buy

[worldly spade]

ohhh so it can be under anything, and yea idk that doesnt sound as profitable unless u have a bunch of money

cargo hualing just seemed cool lmao

[thorny plaza]

you could run cargo in any ship that has cargo space, smallest might be 1SCU or 4SCU or something... but you would be making such tiny money doing that :p

it IS cool 😄

[worldly spade]

yea then ima stick to the mercanry stuff untill i can get a bigger ship

[thorny plaza]

just needs a bit more established position to have the ships and funds to make it worth your time

[worldly spade]

yea wait dont ships u buy in game go away after wipes and sutff like that

[thorny plaza]

I believe the Delivery box missions quickly ramp up in payment after you've done a few you start getting ones that need you to get boxes from dangerous places that might pay 40k :p

yeah they do

but wipes don't happen very often anymore

[worldly spade]

ohhh

but my ship is still a lil too small for those big delivery runs

[thorny plaza]

mm, the ones to pick up little packages?

[worldly spade]

well yes ive done them but it gets very cramped and sometimes i get glitched out of my ship

[thorny plaza]

the ones I'm talking about are for Redwind I think it is, and it'll pay 4k to start, go to X, pick up package, deliver it to Y, etc.

ah

[worldly spade]

yea, do the packages get bigger or more than 3 as time goes on?

[thorny plaza]

so yeah your best bet for now then might be to stick to things you can do on foot, clearing bunkers and stuff

not that I know of

[worldly spade]

oh

well ok ill do that for now

thank you

[thorny plaza]

np GL

[crude tiger]

Are mining passive modules supposed to disappear on claim or is that a bug?

[thorny plaza]

I believe they disappear on claim but haven't tried that myself. I know they disappear on ship destruction for sure

[crude tiger]

Thank you. And if there is a better method currently for quant mining besides lancet, stampede, surge modules. Please lemme know so i dont have to keep tracking mods down. Thanks

[thorny plaza]

nah that's what I use. I've seen some people use Impact laser + 2x Focus modules + Brandt, cos I think you can get the heavier rocks

but if you mine in the belt then lancet can crack anything you find there

[crude tiger]

Gotcha. Yeah I halo it up only. Vedy vedy safe

[thorny plaza]

yep

think my favourite set up is Surge/Stampede for first crack, then I use a Brandt to make popping the secondary rocks simpler.

Currently trialling a FLTR-XL but not convinced.. I think it's the cause of a bug where my cargo starts showing as Inert

[crude tiger]

Ah ill try brandt as well. Eek. Yeah ill skip the beam mod

[thorny plaza]

just don't try to use Stampede and Brandt at same time. I only just realised today that firing one off will cancel the other if it's active

[river cove]

do anyone have the problem the mining modules disappear every time they log off ?

[lavish wharf]

Hello, what's the best head to mine quant in prospector pls ? I seen different video on YT and they'r not saying the same thing

[river cove]

Lancet

Deff Lancet

[thorny plaza]

I agree

[lavish wharf]

Without any passiv modules ?

[river cove]

for asteroids yes

and active too

[lavish wharf]

Asteroids can be mined next to cru L1 ?

[river cove]

the Halo

I use Brandt and surge plus FilterXL

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipMiningMods

get them in any of the city the mining stations monitors are broken

[lavish wharf]

Ty !

[devout otter]

is anyone familiar with ScTradeTools? cause when i put in the nomad, it tells me to go get altrutoxin, but doesnt tell me to do that with my black or connie? are those ships too big to go to jumptown or waste management?

[scarlet rover]

what is your question? how to run drugs?

[devout otter]

oh, are those drugs? im more just asking why it isnt showing up as an option for my ships other than the nomad

in general, i havent tried cargo running yet, and im just trying to figure out whats the best option

[scarlet rover]

@devout otter yup! you can filter out "Vices" in the options so that narcotics aren't listed. if security catches those on your ship youll get at a minimum a fine and confiscation

also keep in mind that SCTT uses the "base" values of the commodities in the game, not current prices adjusted for supply and demand.

[north oyster]

yes, all modules - passive or active - will vanish on a claim or crash. They are not persistent. The laser head though is.

[north oyster]

Cargo and the professional Trade game play isn't in a good place in Star Citizen at the moment. It is a solid profession eventually, but that will not happen until after the cargo refactor that will begin to get rolled out in 3.18 build. That build will be in testing for over 3 months starting in July. We could see a total rework of trading that will make having a smaller ship viable (like the Argo RAFT, etc).

At it stands now, Trade only favors the largest ships like the Hercules Starlifter C2, the Carrack or the CAT

[worldly spade]

ohh yea i didnt know anything about trading so i was just seeing what it was about but thx

[north oyster]

it's fun when you can afford to get to the level

The game even has a "heartbeat" that helps protect traders in case of a server crash

[worldly spade]

ahhh

[north oyster]

If you get a chance to check out the C2, it'd be worth a trip to Orison to the show room to take a look at her. She's a beauty

be sure to turn off cloud details in settings if not running a high end video card

[crude tiger]

gotcha, well it looks like the atlas 1A is still on there as well.

[devout otter]

so come to find out, that mining facilities also have their own stock, so i wasnt able to get enough laranite to make the trips worth it. big sad, back to quant mining for money

[viral lake]

ya, you have to bounce around to different locations picking up laranite

[vivid sorrel]

No, but the modules gets deleted if you claim the prospector. To keep the modules you need to store and retrieve it

[swift shuttle]

New to the ROC - is there a way to load it into your ship? or do I need to go to a mining station like I would to rent one, to claim and load it

[vivid sorrel]

Yes, you need to go planetside at a platinum bay and claim it there, then load it into your ship

If you then store the ship after you're done, with the ROC inside it'll be inside too the next time you retrieve it

[swift shuttle]

thank you

[north oyster]

Claim is only 40 seconds

[north oyster]

yes, thankfully all the upgrades on the ship as far as components (shields, engine, coolers, guns, etc) all persist and are part of the insurance claim. They stay with the ship except when a patch is updated. At that time, the components you purchased SHOULD go back into your personal inventory (as well as paints, etc).

[little sinew]

hey what are the best mods for quant mining so far i just have the vuax c3

[north oyster]

I don't use passive components because I mine exclusively in Aaron's Halo. There the largest rock is under 5.2K and all I carry is the Surge to speed up the initial crack

Pinned at the top should be a list of recommended loadouts that others use

[little sinew]

how do i go to the top

[north oyster]

The PIN button at the top to the left of the Search bar in the Discord window

[little sinew]

ahh i see

[north oyster]

I never noticed it for the longest time

[earnest crystal]

So I am doing good learning how to mine quant but my main time sink if finding rocks any tips on that ?

[north oyster]

Yes, Ping Active tuning you can ID rocks over 12K away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz8TOCUa0Ms

I made 14 runs the past two days, probably about 2.8 Million aUEC that I will take to the TDD tomorrow

[proud jasper]

can the connie Taurus pick up vehicles like the balista?

[north oyster]

Great question. I have a Taurus and a few vehicles but I always use my Taurus for hauling Quantainium for now

I'm thinking the Balista is too large

[proud jasper]

mhm

[north oyster]

Reddit said NO for this
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qzpmok/taurus_and_ballista/

[chilly lake]

is the direct ore sales console broken atm? it won't list my ship

the refinery station does work

[bleak shell]

Can I find obsidian deposits in the Aaron halo?

[bleak shell]

Like for Bexalite and stuff?

[little sinew]

What’s the best mining loadout if you wanna do Lyria mining

[hollow sedge]

where should i go mining with a prospector

[bleak shell]

Bexalite mining on Daymar is good, try to find Obsidian deposits under 6k mass with good amount of Bexalite and mine away, travel to CRU-L1 for refining, sell at Orison.

If you wanna take the riskier route you can mine Quantanium at Lyria but Quantanium is really tricky to handle and not suited for beginners

[cerulean lichen]

Well having bad luck with finding quant on calliope, so going to do some roc mining

[marble crater]

Looking for Quant anywhere other than Lyria/Halo is going to be a rough time

[forest frigate]

Hey guys! I really need your help. I just flew 376 SCU of Quantanium that I mined to Area 18, and went to sell. I noticed that the ship wasn't showing up on the TDD, and was told in chat to log off, and try another server. Now my ship is in "UNKNOWN" status. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I've spent about 30 hours mining this past week.

[cerulean lichen]

Yah. I have just found calliope mining kinda relaxing, though I only find a decent rock to fill my prospector, once every hour on average so not great

[north oyster]

LOL, Of course. I found the Dream Cluster of asteroids, way more than a prospector could ever harvest. 34%, 32%, 24%, etc .... and just as I started BAMM!! 30K

[marble crater]

30K Department is high fiving each other

[cerulean lichen]

My perfect rock I found weeks ago was 49.9% quant with a mass of 6000. And next to it was a 34% rock. I filled my prospector so quickly but had to leave half of the find un mined

[north oyster]

The active angle technique .. has supercharged my mining. I'm at 16 refinery jobs in two days.

Payday gonna be sweet

[north oyster]

when you landed, did the ATC acknowledge and close the hanger doors?

[forest frigate]

I’m pretty sure. I got the “thank you and enjoy your stay!”

[north oyster]

I think I'm going to start going to the Commons and land outside the building. And also take small trips of 6 loads at a time or something like that.

last couple of times when I landed at Area18, it would not even acknowledge my ship landing. So I finally just flew to NB

[marble crater]

Oh didn't know this was a thing?! Haven't ship mined in 3. 17 yet only ROC

[north oyster]

You may want to put in an Issue Council report.

[marble crater]

Wish there was a mining ship around the Mole size with 2 lasers and a vehicle bay to hold a ROC

[north oyster]

that would be cool. I thought the Expanse was going to be that ship but that turned out to be a dud

not expanse, wait, the MISC ship (edit: the Odyssey)

with the refinery, landing pad, and vehicle bay

The server I'm on just went Zombie

[north oyster]

oh crap, that 2% Quan Rock would absolutely kill me