could very well be
#industrial-professions
calm hazel
I would totally bring modules on my asteroid hunting if l1 stations worked
I guess if I got a stash I would only have to bring 1 of each module I wanted
I was really excited when I learned about the filter modules until I remembered that quartz is the real enemy
prime nimbus
why real enemy ?
calm hazel
filter only filters inert materials, but impure quant rocks mainly seem to have lots of quartz, then beryl, and not a ton of inerts
calm hazel
yeah, but if a rock has like 60% quartz, 20% beryl, 15% quant, 5% inert materials, the filter head isn't doing much
originally I was hoping you'd be able to stack up 3 biggest versions of filter module and turn a low yield quant rock into a high yeild
but that's not how the cookie tends to crumble
prime nimbus
the filter makes it that you collect that material first right ?
calm hazel
no, it reduces inert materials by 20%
calm hazel
from what you hoover up
prime nimbus
for example, 5% * 0.8 OR 5% - 20
calm hazel
haven't tested it, pretty sure 5%* 0.8
vivid sorrel
Problem with the intert filter module is that it doesn't increase the amount of good material you get. And with Quant you usually only do one rock and done.
prime nimbus
Problem with the intert filter module is that it doesn't increase the amount of ...
ya
or if youi have amule 2 to 3 rocks at once
calm hazel
I imagined what if you could get it to 100% reduction and then hoovered up a 100% inert material rock
then I realized that's just mining with a mole
humble stump
I think it'd be useful on mole
Cause you can have a laser with 3 for extracting and make use of those qaint+inert rocks
calm hazel
lol true you could have a dedicated hoover laser
humble stump
It does need a buff still though. It should be 30% plus faster, not slower, extraction
vivid sorrel
If you find a rock with 40%+ Quant it's in 80-90% of the cases gonna break in to 100% quant pieces anyway. Only the lower % shit often get mixed breaks
humble stump
But there is still really no downside to having once laser be fltr on mole.
Mole can mine lyria though
calm hazel
well other than a crash losing you 60k :X
humble stump
Very different
vivid sorrel
Mole would have to mine Lyria and big mass rocks, otherwise won't get filled up on a rock.
humble stump
I've cracked 8k rocks with high quant and still seen a few % inert
vivid sorrel
Hell...i can't see a single rock filling it up anyway... like what is is 90SCU?
calm hazel
eh earlier today we hit a couple patches that would have done it
vivid sorrel
Okay, so if you hit a 8000 mass rock with 40% quant you still only get 64 SCU of Quant
calm hazel
like two 6k 30%ers and 7 more 2-10%ers
humble stump
I commonly find 4-5 rock patches where you have like a 40%+30%+18% and 2 are over 6.5k
vivid sorrel
Oh, if you get patches with multiple GOOD quant %, then you'd be golden
humble stump
So like 70-85 scu
calm hazel
its not super common, but it happens
humble stump
Frankly i find lots of quant easier on lyria
The organis problem is
It's only good for a mole
calm hazel
gadgets help I think
vivid sorrel
Yeah, both Lyria and Halo have their own issues with Quant...
humble stump
No because a prospector can't hold it all
calm hazel
oh that's fair
my friends and I mine in a 4 man squad and unless someone makes a bad call or there's super good or bad luck, we rarely have downtime
2 prospecters and a mole
vivid sorrel
But mole broken atm?
calm hazel
mole scouts and breaks, prospectors fly back and forth from l1 to lydia
humble stump
I find that on lyria ill find like 70-150 scu quant in 25 mins and on bands I'll find 25-45 in 15 mins. But the real amount is capped to 32 in a prospector so bands id more
But yeah lyria is better if you have a mole plus prospector to scout. 100%
calm hazel
yesterday we had a field that filled up four prospectors... that one did give downtime to the mole crew lol
vivid sorrel
Just having a scout at all would be great, because they would immensly reduce the time spent searching for those good rocks.
And that's where most of the time goes
humble stump
Really i think it's even better because it feels like rock spawns have a seed where when it rains it pours but when you leave it despawns
calm hazel
yeah it really feels feast or famine
humble stump
Still if you have multiple people that keeps the good rocks from despawning
In a prospector sometimes to get 800k in an hour, sometimes 250k, not counting loss to bugs
But with multiple people, especially on lyria, it should consistently earn more per person on average
calm hazel
my feeling is as long as people are constantly doing something, it should average out to at least relatively comparable to solo mining
humble stump
I think it should be more just because once you find good spawns you should find more good ones around it while solo it will despawn
In my experience, that makes up for competing for resources
Plus, as noted, the mole can clean up the inert ones that the prospector doesn't want
foggy sail
is anyone willing to teach me how to do cargo
humble stump
My first day i did lyria mining and i found so many damn clusters of 18-40% rocks and huge ones that were just wasted
vivid sorrel
Just testing what this command actually tells me... !trading
wary tuskBOT
vivid sorrel
and what about !mining
wary tuskBOT
calm hazel
I really don't recommend trading, even with a hercules
humble stump
I guess the problem with lyria is how much time it takes to crack so many rocks
gentle acorn
A question about mining. I keep seeing posts about weak spots on rocks. Can anyone give me an advice how to find them ?
calm hazel
margins are so small and if you screw up you can lose like 20 trips all at once
vivid sorrel
A question about mining. I keep seeing posts about weak spots on rocks. Can anyo...
I have heard people talk about this, but i don't know how much of that is just instability\RNG or an actual thing.
gentle acorn
It's something to do with the rock's patterns. I may have to test this
thick crag
is cru l3 ok for mining qant?
vivid sorrel
is cru l3 ok for mining qant?
Don't know myself, never tried it. I mainly go Aaron Halo or a bit of Lyria for variance
hidden sedge
anyone know a good C2 cargo route?
vivid sorrel
@hidden sedge Anywhere with stock to fill it, and a place to sell it to, which gets depleted by players buying/selling, which again, means one good route is not good for long, heh.
Best you can do is just try around and see what you find, and use these tools, but don't trust the stock levels they give, but buying and selling locations are good.
https://uexcorp.space/trade
https://sc-trade.tools/home
slow rapids
Stupid question, can anyone help me out with this rock I found?
I found a 6340 mass rock with 47% quantianium
Prospecter can’t break it
So I need another person to help
vivid sorrel
Try to ask in the server you're on
north oyster
I have a slide control on my joystick. Makes all the difference in the world. Far more control
north oyster
anyone know a good C2 cargo route?
Scrap, Titanium, Gold and Astitine are maybe your best hauls for now.
north oyster
is anyone willing to teach me how to do cargo
Cargo trading isn't in a great place. Not that you can't earn decent coin but trade only favors the huge ships (C2, CAT, Carrack)
north oyster
is cru l3 ok for mining qant?
https://uexcorp.space/mining This shows CRU-L1, L4, L5 as potential locations.
But I'm thinking your % of density will be very low.
foggy sail
dam bros on a replying spree
north oyster
Gotta get back in the groove, LOL
foggy sail
bro misses one day
north oyster
Trade will be in a different place by this time next year
foggy sail
So you said it isnt in a great place wdym by that?
north oyster
I see the establishment of Trade Guilds, massive haulers and great opportunity for smaller cargo ships.
The cargo refactor will change every aspect of the game
Also with PES (persistent entity streaming) and server meshing. Huge changes
foggy sail
so i shouldnt get into it?
north oyster
No, running cargo is fun. Just need to be aware of it's current limitations.
foggy sail
can i make lots of mones with it tho?
north oyster
Jack Axton has a trade refresher course that is about 6 months old but very current. I would recommend that. He covers all types of ships and routes
Yes, IF you have a lot of money to start with
AND a C2
foggy sail
like 22 mil?
north oyster
that works
north oyster
yes, about that price. But the terminal in Orison is messed up, so you might not be able to purchase it until 3.17.2 drops in a few weeks
foggy sail
cant i get it in lorville
north oyster
Use to, but I thought they pulled those. I'll check Erkul
foggy sail
its the crusader ship thing right?
north oyster
C2 in Astro Armada in Area18
foggy sail
the wat wat
chilly stag
if anyone wants to know something about prospector mining on lyria, pm me
north oyster
The Hercules Starlifter C2 can be found in Area18 on ArcCorp
foggy sail
The Hercules Starlifter C2 can be found in Area18 on ArcCorp
yeah i swear i could buy it when i was in lorville
north oyster
if anyone wants to know something about prospector mining on lyria, pm me
nice, that's a little over 802K aUEC in those three jobs. I tend to not pass over lesser % rocks because I try to make more faster round trips. So my average is about 225K aUEC
chilly stag
nice, that's a little over 802K aUEC in those three jobs. I tend to not pass ove...
i made those 3 runs in 1h 10min (check the remaining time)
north oyster
yeah i swear i could buy it when i was in lorville
it's not on the list, but you can try 🙂
foggy sail
it's not on the list, but you can try 🙂
could you teach me the ways if i got it?
north oyster
could you teach me the ways if i got it?
Sure, the C2 is a beautiful and fun ship. You will love her. But I would recommend going through this tutorial (aged a little, but still relevant) by one of the King's of Trade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM
foggy sail
Sure, the C2 is a beautiful and fun ship. You will love her. But I would recomme...
god dam bro i hate watching shit
but ight
north oyster
god dam bro i hate watching shit
OK, then when you buy the C2 at Area18. Got to the TDD, buy Scrap, Go to ARC-L1. Sell there
The Look at Lyria for Gold and Titanium in both Humbold and Lovecraft. Also pick up whatever little bit of laranite might be there
Then go to Ida for Astitine. Sell that at the CBD in Lorville
Jack's video is a little exhaustive and goes through almost every spot in Stanton. I wish he would timestamp the commodities
foggy sail
is there a website for this?
north oyster
But this gives you the server default info. Some items are out of stock always (laranite) and prices do differ
I use this for volume production info
chilly lake
Does the 15 min Quant timer stop when you store your ship or when you create the work order?
north oyster
Does the 15 min Quant timer stop when you store your ship or when you create the...
Yes
Stow
Yesterday I had a load and the elevator knocked into the space station and I couldn't get back to the landing pad or secure my ship. So I logged out of the game session and it stowed my ship. Then I could return and go to the refinery and process the ore.
chilly stag
Does the 15 min Quant timer stop when you store your ship or when you create the...
always store your ship before creating the workorder, or the prospector might get bugged
chilly lake
Cheers, I was panicking there for a moment
north oyster
good luck and have fun
chilly lake
Do you guys ignore quant rocks below a certain %?
Takes me forever to find one so I just mine no matter the %
north oyster
some do, I go for anything over 15% as a rule. I mine exclusively in the Halo, so I have very short turn aronds
where are you mining?
chilly lake
I like Lyria on my prospector, haven't tried the halo belt yet
chilly stag
Do you guys ignore quant rocks below a certain %?
i always make the math with my calculator, i only go for full prospector loads
5k rock 30% quant: 5000x0,3x2 = 30 scu
north oyster
10% = roughly 90k, so 20% = 180k and 30% = 270k (close to max return except for 3% bonus at CRU-L1)
chilly lake
Are you using Active radar tuning?
Yeah I use this currently
north oyster
good, Here's some info on the Halo if interested
Takes a little bit to decipher the data, but worth the effort
Band 4 is pretty good. The claim is that all the bands are about the same density but I don't concur with that conclusion but I'm not going to rule it out
I may go back to mining Band 1 again. It use to be the fishing hole of one's dreams but everything is wonky since 3.17 dropped.
north oyster
Yeah I use this currently
If you decide to try the Halo, consider using CRU-L1 as base of ops. It offers the ONLY 3% Quantainium refining bonus of any of the refineries.
chilly lake
Ok will do, thanks for the pdf its very helpful
I can sell the refined ore at any trading post on a planet right?
north oyster
yes, I tend to run to Area18
chilly lake
Yeah I'm thinking Area18 since I'm mostly at Lyria and ARC L1
north oyster
TDD there is a good spot and Area18 offers a better package for resources than most cities.
So I use it as my primary spawn now also
lofty sluice
@frank light for box delivery missions, 45k currently.
frank light
ok thanks
willow rover
What is the ping range of a 2 or more set of rocks
north oyster
What is the ping range of a 2 or more set of rocks
Around 12k if done right. Check out the video by Red Monster SC
willow rover
Around 12k if done right. Check out the video by Red Monster SC
ok can youi link that for me please
calm hazel
I have a slide control on my joystick. Makes all the difference in the world. Fa...
wish I had brought out my joysticks, but I had no idea I'd actually be playing this year
north oyster
wish I had brought out my joysticks, but I had no idea I'd actually be playing t...
This build is really rough. I'm thinking 3.17.2 has the potential to be a solid and fun build
topaz burrow
man I always forget how mahoosive the QD HUD in prospector is lol
weak hound
I need a crewmate for my mole. Anyone interested?
proven path
deft dome
MOLES are working again?
hardy mesa
That's a prospector
deft dome
No i meant the post above yours.
weak hound
No idea, but we're gonna find out
deft dome
Before you go all the way out ot mine. I think you can see if the cargo says 0.0 of 0.0 to confirm.
topaz burrow
Isn't it just a visual bug?
deft dome
the strange thing is i never noticed that until this bug happened that broke the ability to suck up ore
untold crown
@queen martennchie
cerulean lichen
Ok what do you guys think is more useful for box missions. Carrying the box by hand or using the tractor beam tool? I prefer the hand carrying but didn’t know if there was a benefit to the other method
north oyster
Ok what do you guys think is more useful for box missions. Carrying the box by h...
Have a tractor beam if you have multiple boxes and a limited time. Otherwise play the way you enjoy it. Tractor beams will be needed when you come up on a wreck or have to access something just out of reach
brisk hatch
I need a crewmate for my mole. Anyone interested?
you can use #looking-for-session
lean oyster
No idea, but we're gonna find out
as oif last night no. And i didnt know about the bug. So rolled back to station with 0 quant. Very tilting
weak hound
Actually it just shows up as inert. It actually works, just a visual bug
calm hazel
Can you change the mining head on a roc?
willow rover
Does the mole need to be kitted out at all
worn dock
Quick ROC question: I've only been mining hadanite. Should I also be mining aphorite? It would make the mining loop shorter, but it's only half the value
errant wraith
Quick ROC question: I've only been mining hadanite. Should I also be mining apho...
Nah don't bother
vivid sorrel
Quick ROC question: I've only been mining hadanite. Should I also be mining apho...
I mean if i find a BIG patch of it, i don't mind taking it. But if it's the regular trio skip.
errant wraith
Full load of Hadanite is 200k, takes about 24 rocks or so in my experience
vivid sorrel
Every rock is 3 i\u? scu of gems, but some vanish due to server stuff. so make it 27
errant wraith
The ROC uses cSCU
vivid sorrel
^
errant wraith
centi-SCU, like centimeters. 100 cSCU is 1 SCU, I think
The u is micro, iirc
I need to check out Aberdeen again for Hadanite. I've been having success on Daymar (clusters of 10+ Hadanite on every run)
scarlet rover
no, in the mining seat, which is down the ladder below the bridge
willow rover
pressing M buit nothing is happening
scarlet rover
the pilot seat has no mining function just piloting
did you try exiting the pilot seat and getting into the mining seat... that might help
willow rover
does the center drill not come with a mining head when you buy it?
scarlet rover
@willow rover. Friend. Please read the answers to your questions after you ask them.
In order to mine from the MOLE, you have to be in a mining seat.
The pilot seat cannot mine.
A solo MOLE operator must fly into position, cut engines, leave the pilot seat, climb down the ladder behind the pilot seat, and get in the mining seat. Then press the "mining mode" button (M by default) to turn on the drill.
If you would like to mine from a pilot seat you must get a Prospector ship
willow rover
That wasnt my question
I was saying all the other drills on the mole work but not the center one
I am a duo on the mole
weak hound
Did you turn on the power?
willow rover
I cant find the button to do it
deft dome
Is the mole picking up anything or just not Quant?
humble stump
The bug with the Mole is that your ore doesn't even show up at the refinery, right?
i'm not sure exactly I've heard mixed thing
weak hound
I cant find the button to do it
Center turret or one of the sides?
Here just DM me @willow rover
deft dome
The MOLE thing for me is the Mole works fine, you break rocks and gather them. However, you never see your cargo increase, you never get the countdown timer and when you land and go the the refinery there is nothing in the MOLE. It never picked up anything. Now, I only tried Quant but i think its the same for everything.
idle delta
what is the best cargo run for freelancer max ??
high wren
can you buy brandt in area 18 since the shop on wide forest is broken?
pallid lake
wow I guess the event went well, I did everything I could to avoid the game. ended up parking at orison to check out some of the ships, Didnt run cargo did really mine that much, log in today lost 1.8mil, my account says -1...
high wren
did u relog? i had same thing and relogged in and it was back
worn dock
the servers are borked. Everyone's money is gone today
pallid lake
been in and out 4 or 5 times messing with hotas setup
I will try again
I guess on the positive side, I still have every ship I rented at invictus which was pretty much every ship
idle delta
what is the best cargo run for freelancer max ??
worn dock
oh, maybe this will clear out all the duplicate and ghost ships I have in my fleet roster
high wren
anyone have the link to that document that shows what stores have what modules, gadgets etc for mining? I saw it posted a little while back
worn dock
LOL watching a video about outfitting your Prospector, and he says "don't worry about upgrading shields, since if you're attacked you're pretty much hosed"
high wren
there's no brandt in area 18 dumpers....
worn dock
okay, login server is down now
cancel that
I can't type is all
money is back!
💰 😆 💰
pallid lake
yeah money is back chat still isnt working though
worn dock
I'm antisocial, so I don't mind that
pallid lake
there's no brandt in area 18 dumpers....
Go to New babbage @shubin's in the commons there is most of the mining stuff you need
idle delta
what is the best cargo run for freelancer max ??
pallid lake
its a haul for me since i mine on the other side of the system so I buy a bunch of everything
pallid lake
what is the best cargo run for freelancer max ??
best way to set a route is to go to sctrade tools site and make a custom route, most traders wont be willing to give up the goods on a profitable route they have made for themselves
if I was currently hauling cargo and had a cherry run I wouldn't
pallid lake
I'm antisocial, so I don't mind that
So am I but yet I play mmo games exclusively not single platey ones. Kinda funny that way
pallid lake
shut it from the pilot chair, open exterior and close exterior
worn dock
now I can
pallid lake
I wish I started playing this game with Hotas setup, learning how to fly all over sucks
worn dock
I still haven't gotten the profile on my ancient X45 to load properly
Where do I pick up my rented ROC on Aberdeen?
pallid lake
either one of the big stations on the planet
biggest issue I have with the controls is I cant seem to adjust the deadzone on my pedals, I adjust it outside the game and the game ignores it inside the game and it does nothing
pallid lake
Where do I pick up my rented ROC on Aberdeen?
Anderson or Norgaard to get ur roc
if you are on aberdeen
north oyster
what is the best cargo run for freelancer max ??
Refined Quantainium from the refinery to the TDD. Otherwise, unfortunately trade is not in a good position for smaller ships
north oyster
there's no brandt in area 18 dumpers....
Check at finder.cstone.space
humble stump
Wtf it's 30 second QD cooldown on the taurus?
north oyster
Wtf it's 30 second QD cooldown on the taurus?
Depends on the drive
Some are fast cool down, others take forever
worn dock
ok., I'm wearing Permbroke armor and when I step outside on Aberdeen it says I can only survive 9 minutes
north oyster
Do you have the helmet too?
north oyster
I haven't tested my subscriber flare Pembroke suit, I have always been using the regular one from the store
worn dock
surely the graphite helmet and the red suit work together?
plush scroll
Seems for cargo, Lara and Agricium are basically saturated off the table
deft dome
Yeah the best reliable cargo seems to be Titanium for the biggest profit. But even with the largest ships you will only clear ~ 130K a trip.
idle delta
is mini9ng quant better than cargo
deft dome
by far
idle delta
do you need a cargo ship to deliver the quant
deft dome
yes something
idle delta
should i rent a prospector then when i get to 2 mill i should by it right
deft dome
You can but you cant upgrade the mining laser so it will make mining quantanium harder.
I like the cutlass and Roc mining. you will get ~ 250K a run filling the roc with hadenite.
I had horrible luck finding the better ores that werent quantanium in the prospecter.
lean oyster
Have you guys ever heard of selling 8-9 runs of quant at area 18, then all the money you made on those runs disappeared? And all the work orders are gone as well
humble stump
should i rent a prospector then when i get to 2 mill i should by it right
rent roc. Rented prospector sucks you need to be able to equip it
north oyster
should i rent a prospector then when i get to 2 mill i should by it right
Prospector rental is just a trainer, you can't really earn good return with it. What ship do you have? You can rent a ROC and earn that way
summer kelp
can you transfer from mine ships to cargo ships?
covert karma
Man I just bought 500k worth of cargo and it is nerve wracking
humble stump
It's the Freelancer MAX that is the biggest that can fit through a small jump point, right?
naive bane
when mining, does the charge level go up faster after some time? Or can you assume that if it doesn't rise from the start that it will never rise?
Like when you're mining a rock with a ton of mass
scarlet rover
Man I just bought 500k worth of cargo and it is nerve wracking
tell me about it, this patch has been brutal - I had 900k worth of laranite when my ship spontaneously exploded in atmo. decided to give cargo a break until 17.2
covert karma
tell me about it, this patch has been brutal - I had 900k worth of laranite when...
oooof thats fucking rough
scarlet rover
I'd heard the horror stories from other truckers but stubborn me thought I could get away with it
hope yours went successfully
humble stump
yeah my MAX with 1mil spontaniously exploded yesterday too 😦
summer kelp
i havent had any issiues like that XD
lapis magnet
Is there a method to create a bunch of 1 scu boxes like there is for 2 scu boxes?
humble stump
yes. Just put a suit in ship and blow it up
lapis magnet
Will that scale upwards? Say I want to make 10 1 scu boxes with a C2. Will filling up my C2 with a bunch of chest pieces pop out a bunch of 1 scu boxes, or will it create a 2 scu box and then put the overflow into a single 1 scu box
vestal cairn
i made 1 before and the inventory bug couldnt put anything inside then kept in my ship logged out came back and it vanished sigh
latent jetty
when mining, does the charge level go up faster after some time? Or can you assu...
Depends… take the laser out of the fixed position and move it around the rock in a circle then should take 3-4 min to get a solid answer if it’s gonna move or not
If not use a boremax with a surge and that should get it going
naive bane
If not use a boremax with a surge and that should get it going
I got the lancet on my prospector, can I mine 5-6k mass rocks with it?
vestal ravine
I just cleared 17 k on an Agricium run in a Cutty. Full load good for me.
deft dome
congratz. Space Trucking is fun.
vestal ravine
Thanks! My return trip was personal guns and armor to HurL1. Can't get to crazy sometimes stopping for magic space metal.
tight latch
When is the storage bug for the mole going to be fixed
north oyster
3.17.2 unless they rollout a hotfix, which I doubt
So we have 3 to 4 more weeks of this dumpster fire
tight latch
So is everyone having this problem
north oyster
MOLE in a bad place at the moment for everyone
I know one group that runs about 10 or more MOLEs every weekend that is now waiting for a fix
north oyster
I just cleared 17 k on an Agricium run in a Cutty. Full load good for me.
Agricium, if buy and sell are default, offers 18% magin. But since it is more expensive (buy 22.5/sell 27.5) you get a better return. Astatine has a 22% margin but the buy-in is 7 and the sell is 9. Give that a try also, you can buy Astatine in Ida at Ryder (recommend) and Woodruff. Sell at Lorville CBD.
deft dome
Great suggestion. Smaller cargo ships will work great with this. But dont expect to fill a C2, you will have to look for a secondary commodity to buy and sell at a lower profit margin.
vestal ravine
Thanks for the tips tripperdan99! It's cool we have lots of ways to earn these space bucks!
deft dome
What really sucks is there is no return trip commodity you can bring from Lorville back to the outposts.
north oyster
There use to be, but all that got shut down (for the most part). I remember making about 80K per trip in a MAX before the great "server rebalance" where all the servers were set to a common inventory. Then Trade was dead for two years after that.
worn dock
You can only buy the ROC in Lorville?
marble crater
pls fix the glorious Mole 🙏
humble stump
8 rocks and only 1 is good 😦
marble crater
1 is better than none
tight latch
When is the cargo refractor coming out
humble stump
not even good tbh I got 27 scu ors omething
What is the downside of overclocking my mining laser?
zinc knot
When is the cargo refractor coming out
roadmap says 3.18
turbid hemlock
what is the cargo refractor?
humble stump
So much in 3.18.
deft dome
People were asking how muh money can you make in the prospector and Quantanium.
It holds 3200 cSCU of ore and knowing that a perfect load is hard to find.
100% of Quantanium: 3200 cSCU (*88 aUEC purchase price) = 281,600 aUEC
75% of Quantanium: 2400 cSCU (*88 aUEC purchase price) = 211,200 aUEC
50% of Quantanium: 1600 cSCU (*88 aUEC purchase price) = 140,800 aUEC
25% of Quantanium: 800 cSCU (*88 aUEC purchase price) = 70,400 aUEC
It isnt magic and the people that get rich solo mining in a Prospector are grinding their asses off.
deft dome
Yup, agreed.
waxen beacon
how do i buy the stuff inside the glass display in the mining support centres
deft dome
Its still good money. ROC mining is slower but it will pull in 250K in a full load I think.
You cant, only the things on the outside I believe.
waxen beacon
but theres no gadgets outside
waxen beacon
aww dont tell me its that blacked out terminal
deft dome
sadly, yes.
humble stump
there's more places to buy the stuff
just less convenient
If you mean a waveshift or boremax, you can get them from dumper's depot
waxen beacon
which dumpers depot?
humble stump
any
opal gale
any good routes rn?
opal gale
what do i do if theres not enough laranite
surreal sparrow
you wait
Unfortunately
And hope there aren't too many others on other servers waiting too
Shops have a max inventory and a refresh rate
And it's shared across servers
humble stump
Crash while full of quant again..
hopefully I can make it back in time. IT seems to always fail on the first load back though
surreal sparrow
It's depends on the particular shops refresh rate and also how many other people on other servers are grabbing it as it does
You can get shop refresh rates on some of the SC trade sites like sc trad tools
And gallog
I usually don't wait more than 10 minutes but laranite is a popular commodity
So it can be longer with that
That's why it pays sometimes to take lower profit routes but with higher stock and refresh rates
opal gale
That's why it pays sometimes to take lower profit routes but with higher stock a...
like titanium?
humble stump
16 refinery orders processing. Time for sleep.
zinc knot
Is shop inventory fully shared across servers, as in would 5000 units of agricium bought at one outpost in one server subtract 5000 from the inventory of that outpost in all other servers?
marble crater
yep
zinc knot
Is that shared globally or just across server region
marble crater
globally from what I've been told
zinc knot
Who thought that was a good idea
marble crater
lol it definitely sucks but the backend for trading just isn't there right now
humble stump
uhhh what do you mean? It's a great idea. It's fundamental to a functional universe economy.
It's just missing more of the supporting systems.
zinc knot
It's a great idea if you have much larger outpost supplies and you don't have some places regenerating demand at double digits per minute
zinc eagle
How much money would I make with renting a prospector and mining bexalite?
weak hound
tell me about it, this patch has been brutal - I had 900k worth of laranite when...
Honestly I'm probably not gonna be playing SC until 18
calm hazel
Can you even find good bexalite rocks?
topaz burrow
How much money would I make with renting a prospector and mining bexalite?
When I rented Prospector, after all day I was able to break even after rental cost of prospector and cutty plus made 200k on top. It's not the best considering it took me all day looking for bexalite small enough I can crack it. Yes sure it all varies to luck what rocks you found. But for me it worked so-so. You'd be better ranting ROC
zinc eagle
When I rented Prospector, after all day I was able to break even after rental co...
Is ROC better to rent?
topaz burrow
Is ROC better to rent?
with ROC you are not limited by the weak laser you get in rented prospector, so you can just mine any hadanite you find. you can watch some videos on SC Monster's YT channel how to mine in a ROC
zinc eagle
Should I just buy it isntead as I have enough money for it?
topaz burrow
if ROC mining is the gameloop you like, sure
zinc eagle
Is it that profitable?
void jetty
yes hadanite is great for making money
sharp latch
Is there anywhere explain the loot pool and how things are sorted out. Is there higher reward with riskier bunkers? Or certain planets and their moons have different loot tables?
waxen beacon
is there anywhere i can buy brandt from rn?
topaz burrow
is there anywhere i can buy brandt from rn?
vivid sorrel
is there anywhere i can buy brandt from rn?
Only on planet locations atm, cause refinery shop terminals bugged
latent jetty
is there anywhere i can buy brandt from rn?
Shubin Interstellar on NB pretty much has everything you need
north oyster
People were asking how muh money can you make in the prospector and Quantanium.
...
That's a neat guide but one will never get paid for 32SCU. The refinery overhead is 5%. Unless using CRU-L1, which offers a 3% bonus.
A cheat sheet I use to estimate profit is
10%= 90k aUEC
20%= 180k aUEC
30%= 270k aUEC
Just a rule of thumb, but puts you in the ballpark
north oyster
Can you even find good bexalite rocks?
I think Aberdeen has the best density for bexilite ore
worn dock
Aberdeen, Daymar, or ?? for ROC mining now?
north oyster
Aberdeen, Daymar, or ?? for ROC mining now?
Aberdeen for best Hadinite gems. The hotter the planet, the more hadinite. Daymar is second. Of course to mine wtih the ROC on Aberdeen you will need the Pembroke armor set. You can get by with just heavy armor on Daymar.
Aberdeen also has the best selection for Bexilite ore for the large deposits
eternal hamlet
What are the hot spots for hadinite currently?
Oh Nevermind
I see the chat above
worn dock
Aberdeen for best Hadinite gems. The hotter the planet, the more hadinite. Dayma...
I have the Pembroke suit. Speaking of which, the Pembroke Graphite helmet does NOT work with the regular red suit. You can wear it, but it doesn't seal and you don't get the protection.
vivid sorrel
Daymar is also a nicer planet if you care about that. You can actually SEE stuff ^^
worn dock
yeah, you can't see crap on Aberdeen. Of course, I should have landed on the day side 😛
how do you use the V scanner? do you have to hold down the moue button?
boreal vine
Hauling cargo worth it with a avenger titan?
vivid sorrel
how do you use the V scanner? do you have to hold down the moue button?
yep, so scan in that mode, gotta hold buttonn
vivid sorrel
Hauling cargo worth it with a avenger titan?
Better to do delivery missions, not enough SCU for cargo
boreal vine
Better to do delivery missions, not enough SCU for cargo
With delivery missions, if I do several do they pay mem more for a mission later on?
worn dock
left button, I assume? Is that why the Noise to Signal ratio was so terrible? Would narrowing the focus to 2% help with that?
boreal vine
Like, I only got 8k credit missions right now around a specific planet, but will that momney increase? And is there a way to see your progress with a company?
worn dock
re: box missions: there are almost always two that you can chain together
vivid sorrel
Yes, Mobiglass - Delphi
It won't make you tons for money - if you like fps, you can also do bunker missions with that ship as it got cargo space
boreal vine
It won't make you tons for money - if you like fps, you can also do bunker missi...
Talking to me or Bacon?
vivid sorrel
You ^^
feral totem
Aberdeen for best Hadinite gems. The hotter the planet, the more hadinite. Dayma...
I can confirm. Aberdeen > Daymar
boreal vine
You ^^
Where can I find those?
And are they do-able solo if I just get me a gun and be careful?
vivid sorrel
Find those what?
boreal vine
Bunker Missions
serene quest
does ore not show up as physicalized cargo?
toxic citrus
does ore not show up as physicalized cargo?
Don't think so
Same deal with refined quant
For now of course
serene quest
okay cool, thought I was going crazy
worn dock
you might say it's in the quantum realm until you get to the refinery
winged furnace
I have found some videos about mining, and I am trying to figure out the best way to get started. All of the videos I am seeing are a little different, so if there is a good one you know of to help with my questions dont be afraid to post me a link without going through a ton of explanation. I have no problems purchasing a ship from the pledge store, and would probably prefer to so I dont lose it when I inevitably do something silly.
- I see the prospector and the ROC mentioned, but I am still in my starter aurora. Do I need a mining ship and the rover-like vehicle? I think these videos assume you already know this answer. If not, I am assuming that you could bring in a Roc with a non mining-ship to do what you need to do?
- How do I know if a ship could carry a ROC?
serene quest
I have found some videos about mining, and I am trying to figure out the best wa...
You need either a Prospector or a RoC or a hand mining tool. Each is different, mechanics are similar, but they all mine for different things. Yes you can carry a RoC with a non mining ship. Your Go-To carry ships are a Cuttlass or Freelancer. Cutlasses are preferred for the most part as they can also carry your refined ore loads (so can the MAX) but are far cheaper to rent if you needed one.
winged furnace
You need either a Prospector or a RoC or a hand mining tool. Each is different, ...
The cutlass black? I was already considering buying that.
north oyster
The cutlass black? I was already considering buying that.
Can't go wrong with the cutty. She is the Swiss Army Knife of SC, good at everything, great at nothing
winged furnace
I am trying to decide if I should buy a dedicated mining ship or something like a cutlass and a roc to have more flexibility to do other non-mining things too
north oyster
Real dollars?
winged furnace
am I still able to scan rocks with the cutlass, or would I have to get my roc out every time I wanted to check the makeup of a rock?
aye, real dollars, so I wouldn't have to worry about losing it
north oyster
You can scan but you can also do a visual without ever getting out of the ship. Zoom in (F with mouse wheel) and look for pinkish veins in the deposit
winged furnace
aah, ok
north oyster
aye, real dollars, so I wouldn't have to worry about losing it
The Cutlass Black would be way more flexible. You can CCU your game package to the cutty. Then you can rent a ROC for 4k. Earn enough to buy it (174K) and then save up to buy the Prospector
winged furnace
do in-game purchased ships have insurance?
north oyster
Insurance isn't relevant. I have spent real world funds for a core fleet, but I'm willing to do that knowing the risk.
My fleet includes the Prospector, ROC, Taurus, and a number of other ships so that I can launch strong from a wipe.
First ship I buy with ingame funds after that is the MAX
winged furnace
I mean if I buy the Roc for 174K in-game and drive it off a cliff on accident, will I be able to reclaim it Ilike I can my aurora? Or will I have to buy another. Same if I earn up for the prospector and buy that in-game
north oyster
Yes, all ships can be claimed
winged furnace
aah ok
That is good to know. For some reason I thought if in-game purchased ships were destroyed, you had to buy them again
north oyster
I would recommend upgrading your Aurora to the Cutlass Black if you are going to spend more funds
It is called a Cross Chassis Upgrade, aka CCU
winged furnace
Thank you very much for your help! Now I just have to decide which path I want to take.
No reason I would want to go back to the aurora after having the cutlass black?
north oyster
None, the cutty can carry your refined ore from the Prospector, it can carry the ROC, it can do bounty missions, it can do everything in the game pretty much
winged furnace
ok, right on. Thanks again!
north oyster
Sure, please let me know if I can be of further assistance
calm hazel
but can it tell why kids like cinnamon toast crunch?
north oyster
that's really asking too much of the swiss army knife
vivid sorrel
OFC it can - Drake AI says the answer is....SUGAR ^^
high wren
i can't wait till they fix the terminals on the space stations. need my mining supplies and have to go to nb all the time since i keep based at wide forest
viral lark
I know no one really sells waste, but does anyone know if that's completely broken right now? Tried a couple lagrange points and waste didn't show up as an option to sell at refineries
whole shoal
Can someone explain to me how the ROC-DS works? I'm having a tough time figuring it out.
I've found a big ol' rock, but I don't seem to be able to do anything with it
I'm looking at this and mining it just doesn't make the charge level go up
glacial dagger
I've found a big ol' rock, but I don't seem to be able to do anything with it
So, the ROC and ROD-DS can only mind rocks that have a diamond marker
That rock is a ship minable, so prospector and MOLE
whole shoal
Aha so I have to find diamond marker thingies
glacial dagger
Yh
whole shoal
What's the best way of finding those?
Just putting the ROC-DS in my ship and flying around... or?
vivid sorrel
Scanning with ping with tab
Any returns you get that are around 3km can be gems, anything further will never be.
whole shoal
What about things that are like a square box? Is that something else or is that more of a "dunno yet till i get closer"
vivid sorrel
That's exactly it
You can also change scanner angle from 360 to 90/180 and fly in one direction etc, but i really suggest you take some time to watch some vids, unless you just want to do things your own way.
whole shoal
yeah i just wanna figure it out somewhat ingame
that's how i figured out the hand tool
worn dock
I use the scanner at 179 degrees. I investigate anything that pops at 4k or under. If it shows as gems when I get close, I put my ship nose-down over it, get as close as I"m comfortable with, then hold F and use the mousewheel to zoom in and see what color the stripes are
worthy gazelle
list 1.8 million auec yesterday. Anyone wanna team up and mine at some point?
i have a prospector.
viral lake
anyone know if the MOLE is still bugged?
hardy mesa
Yes it is
viral lake
aight thanks
humble stump
I hate when my scans don't save
I have 10 quant rocks here and can't remember which is which
naive bane
found a 40% quant rock, had my prospector 100% full of only quant.. then my game crashes.. 😦
oh shit I respawned with the quant still in my cargo!!
north oyster
What about things that are like a square box? Is that something else or is that ...
The trick with gem deposits (BTW, you can sell the gems at any outpost and they do not need to be refined like raw ore) is that they will Appear on the ping radar at 2000 meters (even to 2200ish) and then stay on your radar return while the large deposits will disappear between 2000 meters and show back up around 1000
north oyster
Found over 1 mil credits of quant in a cluster
too bad we can set waypoints yet
Soon(tm)
north oyster
oh shit I respawned with the quant still in my cargo!!<:OldPog:76019203118727174...
did you make it? I'm pretty sure the alarm was going off by time you made it to the pad
naive bane
did you make it? I'm pretty sure the alarm was going off by time you made it to ...
Yes, never heard the alarm, it was on yela though, so I make it to the station in like 4 min max
north oyster
Mining Quan in Yela's asteroid belt? That brings back memories
naive bane
I mean Lyria* lol
north oyster
ah, that makes more sense
naive bane
yea switched them up
north oyster
Yela use to be a pretty good site
naive bane
There was probably another 32 scu of quant there but I was full, wish I could have placed a marker
north oyster
that's on every miner's number one list
naive bane
I wish there was a solo mining ship bigger than the prospector too
or at least cargo extension for the prospector
north oyster
To me the Prospector is just about right. Yeah, we do wish they would hold more, but it is in a spot where more would invalidate the MOLE team advantage
north oyster
Yeah I'm paying someone to hodl the spot
brilliant
naive bane
I guess yeah but I don't feel like having to play with others if I want to mine more
calm hazel
can solo mole
naive bane
yea I heard it's tedious though
calm hazel
oh I'm sure
north oyster
If they mark it until you clear it, that'd be a nice claim for you and a nice commission for them
naive bane
is it not?
north oyster
MOLE is PIA to use solo
naive bane
Also, does trading become more profitable than prospector quant mining, when you get a big ship like C2 hercules etc?
north oyster
And it is out of commission until 3.17.2 drops (for the most part)
calm hazel
no
north oyster
Also, does trading become more profitable than prospector quant mining, when you...
No, not really. Trade is not in a good place at the moment
naive bane
They should really buff trading :/
north oyster
There is a thing called Cargo Refactor that will change everything. Then trade will get a new life
naive bane
I got the freelancer as pledge and the prospector bought ingame, with about 1.5 mil in UEC, what ship should I save up for to make more money (solo)?
north oyster
it's well over 100 qauntanium
96 SCU of raw
calm hazel
sentinel?
humble stump
Yes. 100 is more than 96...
calm hazel
basically nothing I've found worth other than mining and bounties
could get a freelancer and a roc
north oyster
I got the freelancer as pledge and the prospector bought ingame, with about 1.5 ...
Save your funds and setup a BASE for your wallet. I normally like 10M aUEC as my base
naive bane
Save your funds and setup a **BASE** for your wallet. I normally like 10M aUEC a...
what would I want a base for?
livid basin
might just get the 400i for fun
300i is a nice ship to generally cruise around
north oyster
So that you can make snappy decision, not go broke and also have more freedom in the game
I saved up almost a billion aUEC at one time before the wipe
naive bane
damn wtf
naive bane
I like playing solo, can just chill out and play on my own pace
north oyster
Same
400i is a fun ship. Mine is an LTI token for the Hull C, but I'll buy another one in-game once I get my Hull C
naive bane
I know it's useless for now, but it just looks like a sick 'home' ship
north oyster
You will really like having it if you go that route
naive bane
I'm sure they will add passenger missions at some point
north oyster
I'm not sure it will be in the VIP category, but would be nice if it was
naive bane
I guess I gotta save up 6 mil UEC now lol
north oyster
VIP will be 600i, Connie and 890J
Have you been in a 600i? Now that's the cat's meow without spending 32m aUEC
naive bane
I have! Amazing ship but I don't know if I will survive the grind for that
north oyster
See, I don't understand "grind" because I just play and mine at my pace. Maybe the reason I always have tons of aUEC as a result
naive bane
with grind I mostly mean patience, having the patience to wait for the 600i when I can get the 400i
I'm not the best with patience lol
north oyster
I haven't had a chance to play but very little in past few months, I'm the most broke I've been in the game since I started, but since I focus on mining I will have a decent sum in my wallet.
Of course I try to clear 1m aUEC each time I play
calm hazel
now that's the grind
north oyster
grind? oh, setting a goal is a grind?
calm hazel
ya
north oyster
I work full time, Mondays are a grind
naive bane
to me it is
north oyster
Playing SC is never a grind
naive bane
different kinds of grinds I suppose
I've worked as well, SC is definitely a fun type of grind though 😄
but it comes down to what you define grind as
north oyster
OK, good grind. Let's say I want to have 100 million aUEC in my wallet by end of June. Most would see that as a grind, I would see it as a hill I want to climb.
Words are interesting. I prefer to make them serve me rather than weigh me down.
naive bane
Either way, it will take a while to get the 400i or 600i :p
north oyster
You have a Prospector, right?
calm hazel
i.e. the grindset mindset
north oyster
Ok, each trip can avg you roughly 220K to 270K aUEC
north oyster
Humm, ok, you're still learning then
naive bane
yes I am
north oyster
Are you using radar active ping?
naive bane
got into mining last week for the first time
naive bane
Are you using radar active ping?
what do you mean? I just tab often and look for multiple big rocks
north oyster
Ok, your average will certainly go up to easily over 1m per day
naive bane
is radar active ping something else?
north oyster
I mine exclusively in the Halo, but this can be used on Lyria also
yeah, WAY different than the old system
naive bane
so is this active ping better than spamming tab and looking for big rocks?
north oyster
so is this active ping better than spamming tab and looking for big rocks?
You can see the cluster count 10K away
north oyster
yea
naive bane
I'll give the vid a watch
north oyster
I think Red Monster has one just for Lyria type mining
naive bane
Also I sometimes find big rocks that I can't seem to crack, my charge just doesn't rise enough
naive bane
lancet
north oyster
With the Surge and Stampede active components
north oyster
The surge is at Port Olisar but it was sold out the other day when I tried to restock
Be careful with the surge, ONLY use it at the start of a break, otherwise you will blow yourself to bits
In the Halo, the naked Lancet can break everything there. I use the Surge just to speed it up
A helpful rule of thumb:
10% = 90K aUEC
20% = 180K aUEC
30% = 270K aUEC
naive bane
Is halo mining better than lyria? I heard there's more pirates
north oyster
Pirates in Aaron's Halo? No, there is no body there. Lyria is where NPC or players might be (if crowded server)
naive bane
Is it easier to find quant rocks there?
north oyster
I would say yes, but I'm bias
naive bane
hmm I guess I'll give it a try
north oyster
Here's how to find the bands
naive bane
huh so you just abort quantum travel and you get there
north oyster
I work out of CRU-L1 and normally target ARC-L3 for Quantum Jump. Also CRU-L1 is the ONLY refinery that offers a 3% Quantainium refining bonus
Yes, HOLD B or Kill engines " i "
naive bane
alright thanks for all the information, very helpful! Maybe it won't take so long to get 400/600i after all..
humble stump
omg it looks like some rocks STILL despawned... like there was a bug and the other person didn't load htem all in or something
so I only got 2 loads from that it looks like instead of 4.5
winged furnace
How in the heck do I spawn my Roc to go mining? I see everywhere to just go to a mining outpost to spawn it, but I cant find a mining outpost...
north oyster
How in the heck do I spawn my Roc to go mining? I see everywhere to just go to ...
You look for the Platimum at outpost. Aberdeen is where you want to mine
There are two places on Aberdeen.
rocky hare
Does the Mole work yet?
north oyster
Does the Mole work yet?
3.17.2 will probably be when it works again unless CIG does a hotfix
rocky hare
north oyster
Concur
rocky hare
I spent 6mil for it not to work 1 day after
north oyster
Got a Prospector?
winged furnace
I do n ot have that armor
north oyster
How about getting a ROC and trying that? Can make about 200K aUEC per trip
north oyster
I do n ot have that armor
you must have that or you need to go to Daymar to try to find Hadinite
None of the refinery stores are working. So you will need to go to Tammany&Sons in Lorville
To buy the Pembroke armor
winged furnace
The ROC wot keep me cool?
hollow sedge
Does anybody know why when I pick up my refinery order to my rented ship it just vanishes?
I tried when the ship is in storage or on the landing pad but in both cases cargo is nowhere to be seen but refinery order was picked up
winged furnace
None of the refinery stores are working. So you will need to go to Tammany&Sons ...
I am just learning so not worried about absolute efficiency. I will mine in Daymar until I have a chance to pick up the armor. Thank you for the advice!
hollow sedge
Does anybody know why when I pick up my refinery order to my rented ship it just...
nvm it's a visual bug
no cargo containers on the ship but when i try to sell it's all there
molten mulch
whats a good starter trade route/ship for said route
north oyster
I am just learning so not worried about absolute efficiency. I will mine in Day...
You want to mine primarily hadinite but for practice, mine any cluster above 3 if it isn't hadinte. Also, if the scan doesn't work, the hadinite has a pinkish vein. You can hold F then spin the mouse wheel to zoom in
north oyster
Does anybody know why when I pick up my refinery order to my rented ship it just...
Quantainium doesn't materialize. If you mine other ores, they will show up
naive bane
okay this halo method is pretty cool, just found a 50% quant rock 😛
north oyster
okay this halo method is pretty cool, just found a 50% quant rock 😛
FTW!!
naive bane
FTW!!
getting to the station from the belt is a lot longer though
I hope I make it in time lol
which band do you usally go to from CRU l1?
north oyster
getting to the station from the belt is a lot longer though
Hey the Atlas QT engine
north oyster
which band do you usally go to from CRU l1?
Band 4, but 1,2, or 3 are good
north oyster
5 is a little too dense for me
naive bane
so dense isn't better?
This active radar thing is def a lot better than trying to spot multiple big rocks in the snow lol
livid basin
Hauling ass back home with a full cargo of pure Quantanium
And there You have it delivered...!!!
naive bane
just did the same!
livid basin
Isn't it the most satisfying thing ever?
naive bane
Isn't it the most satisfying thing ever?
Oh it is! Hauling your ship full of space gold
Just make me sad I couldn't haul more lol
naive bane
yea
I had another whole astroid with 20% I didn't even touch but I was full from the 50% one
livid basin
i found mine on a cluster in Lyria
naive bane
if only you could ping the location..
livid basin
it will probably despawn till you get back
even in the same server
i think they are randomly generated
naive bane
yeah unfortunately
if it wasn't timed maybe I could tell some friends to come to my location
livid basin
i did that earlier today
found a 6k 40% and a 7.7k 32% side by side, only after 10 mins of searching
and i told a friend to come pick it up
Unfortunately i damaged my ship and had to go back
by the time i got there the server 30k'ed...
naive bane
damn thats bad luck
had a crash earlier with a ship full of quant
luckily I respawned with the quant still in my ship
waxen beacon
is there a fix for the prospector not scanning rocks
naive bane
wdym not scanning?
livid basin
just tap them with your laser
waxen beacon
like im in mining mode and i cant see the % of minerals in the rock
naive bane
like im in mining mode and i cant see the % of minerals in the rock
all rocks? some are inert I think. Otherwise maybe go into scan mode with V and scan them like that?
hollow drum
Roc or roc-ds for solo?
livid basin
ROC
waxen beacon
yeah think these ones are a lost cause. blasting it with my laser does nothing and the v scan doesnt scan it either
livid basin
Ds is a 2-man vehicle
naive bane
some are just bugged I suppose
hollow drum
yeah think these ones are a lost cause. blasting it with my laser does nothing a...
Every once in a while I find rocks that don't get identified so I just move on
north oyster
is there a fix for the prospector not scanning rocks
Dud asteroids will be with us until they get server meshing in the game
waxen beacon
yeah its just real unlucky that the past 3 quant clusters ive found were unscannable
naive bane
tried a game restarT?
waxen beacon
yep
naive bane
hmm unlucky I guess
north oyster
The dud scans are normally when the server is buggy. You can QT jump about 20k Km and try again. Otherwise hop servers. Also, if you are in more dense rings, there are more duds. I prefer to be in lightly dense rings like Band 1 (pre-3.17 patch). I've not gone back and re-scouted the different bands since the new patch dropped.
north oyster
yep
Have you tried active angle ping to determine long before you get to them if they are duds?
waxen beacon
yeah i still see them as grey squares when i do the angle ping
north oyster
No, when in mining mode it will tell you what they are
You can know from 10K out if it is a Quan or other asteroid or if it is a dud
willow rover
What ship should i rent to sell my refined quant?
waxen beacon
You can know from 10K out if it is a Quan or other asteroid or if it is a dud
doesnt seem to work too well in lyria
willow rover
doesnt seem to work too well in lyria
On lyria I just ping tune until i find a cluster with 2 or more
waxen beacon
thats what i do. but they all duds
willow rover
thats what i do. but they all duds
How are they duding for you? they never dud for me
waxen beacon
cant scan or mine em
waxen beacon
done both. im about try another regions server now
naive bane
done both. im about try another regions server now
check the vid tripperdan sent, I was mining on lyria before but now I did that method it's much easier to find the right rocks
waxen beacon
thats the method turbo and i were talking about
north oyster
thats what i do. but they all duds
No, surface ore doesn't dud, so there's something up.
It won't scan unless you are about 300m from it
I've got to remap my joystick. The Ping and angle control need to be front and center and my mining control (mining, extraction, etc) needs to be shift. This is working out great, now to optimize the process. Amazing how much time I've saved not chasing the wrong ore or duds.
north oyster
Was watching Nova Prototype video for SC beginners and he pointed out something I'd not paid attention to. You can tell what gems you are scanning by the instability.
< 1.00 is Aphorite
1.01 to 1.99 is Hadanite
2.00 > is Dolvine
boreal vine
Can you fit a ROC in a avenger titan?
hollow drum
I've heard a no on that from others
marble crater
Can you fit a ROC in a avenger titan?
no chance, cheapest options are a Nomad or Cutlass Black
pulsar marsh
i found an 8k 49% quant rock but i dont have surge with me :/
earnest crystal
is there a cargo guide somewherte out there i wanna star making some moola
scarlet rover
is there a cargo guide somewherte out there i wanna star making some moola
check the resources in the pinned comments
earnest crystal
thanks
scarlet rover
thanks
SC Trade Tools is a good resource, as is UEX.
Keep in mind SCTT uses the "base" values for the commodities, not current reported prices. Therefore your actual buy/sell values in universe will be less optimal due to trade volumes
earnest crystal
i did not understand that page a lot i kinda get it
scarlet rover
what kinda ship do you have, and what's your starting investment? @earnest crystal
vestal seal
does the mole work yet
strange delta
pls fix my mole ty
marble crater
yas pls fix Mole it's getting dusty sitting in storage 🙏
humble stump
I'm looking for someone to mine with. I keep finding more than I can hold and need someone to save my spot.
prime panther
hey so im a beginnner here and I would like to mine solo but i have no idea on what to do
calm hazel
can you fit a roc in a c2 hercules?
winged furnace
ok I am finally successfully roc mining! Now, how do I transfer mined materials from my roc to my cutlass?
calm hazel
don't
winged furnace
OK, what do I do with the stuff in the Roc then?
calm hazel
Go to a mining camp and sell it in the building labeled "Storage"
winged furnace
ah, so my cargo capacity of my cutlass is useless for Roc mining?
calm hazel
more or less. It's a pain to transfer and if the server crashes you lose everything
main saddle
I just land on the pad, leave the ROC in my ship, and go inside to the terminal to sell.
winged furnace
ok
was hoping to maximize my time out, but that makes sense
right now this roc is rented. Trying to earn enough to buy one so I can start upgrading it to earn for the prospect
I appreciate the time and advice
main saddle
I get too paranoid to stay out too long with a ROC. 😆
winged furnace
haha, that's fair
main saddle
Always got one eye on the Bwin number. 😅
hollow drum
Go to a mining camp and sell it in the building labeled "Storage"
Mining camp??? Whaaaaa
main saddle
Another advice: if you know your starting location, pick one heading and just stay on it. In case of a mishap, such as death, you can fly back and get your ROC.
calm hazel
yeah it'll be called something like shubin mining camp, or MLCS mining 06
hollow drum
yeah it'll be called something like shubin mining camp, or MLCS mining 06
Amazing thank you
So many sneaky little features haha
calm hazel
That's also where you'll want to go when you want to refuel/re-arm/repair on a moon
hollow drum
Any other special locations to look for ?
calm hazel
Uh, there's a security depo on every planet area, for arccorp it's on lydia
winged furnace
HA, so on my way flying to the mining depot I crashed. Ship gone, Roc gone, and apparently I died because all of my gear is gone as well... FML
calm hazel
That sucks
river cove
I wonder how it feel to go bounty with a Max lol
earnest crystal
what kinda ship do you have, and what's your starting investment? <@193986801650...
connie and 500k atm but i can do more
humble stump
This should easily be at least 4mil.
So that's my mole. Now they just need to make it work.
calm hazel
fine i'll go mine since you're so insistent
humble stump
haha
calm hazel
need enough for eclipse and mole
hardy flicker
Anybody wanna give me a loan for a prospector? Will pay back double in a week
hollow drum
How do I pick up the gems with the roc?
marble crater
right click puts it in extraction mode, then hoover it up with mouse 1
hollow drum
Yeah it was just bugged sadly so just got out and back in I think fixed it
Man I really need pembroke ha
marble crater
pretty warm on Aberdeen lol
arctic knoll
flint trench
how can I change an active module on my ship? my module (brandt) has 2 charges left and I want to change it but when I unequip it from the ship it doesn't appear in my local inventory and when I try to equip a new brandt module it equips the one with 2 charges left
vivid sorrel
There's some kind of lag on the modules and equipment, try to unequip it, save. Retrieve your ship. Check inventory. Drop the old one now, and store ship again and put on new
flint trench
There's some kind of lag on the modules and equipment, try to unequip it, save. ...
ok thank you i will try now
marble crater
Only reliable way I've found is to use them up until it's empty
flint trench
Only reliable way I've found is to use them up until it's empty
I suppose it's the fastest way, on the way back just use the remaining charges and that's it
now on my misc loadout I see 1 brandt module in use and 9 available but in my inventory there are 10 and all of them with 5 charges left
marble crater
yeah I just burn through them before I scoop the purple chunks
only really do it if I have 1 or 2 uses left
vivid sorrel
Just use lancet and you don't need Brandt 😛
flint trench
Just use lancet and you don't need Brandt 😛
what modules do you use with lancet?
vivid sorrel
Well i mainly do halo, so it can do all the Quant rocks there "naked" if needed, so i just go surge and stampede for superfast crack, third module passive, the one for -10% instability
flint trench
ok i will try, thanks
vivid sorrel
What laser are you using?
flint trench
impact 1
calm hazel
I die to often to super stupid crap so I use no modules
flint trench
impact 1 with 2 focus III modules and brandt
marble crater
Surge, Stampede & Optimum is my normal combo but there's so many options really
flint trench
I tried with the lancet alone but i found a rock that i couldn't crack in the halo too
vivid sorrel
ah, yeah i watched a vid using that laser...i can't agree on it personally with quant, but i haven't actually TRIED it, so i can't really say for certain.
I really should try different lasers and loadouts, but this just works so well for my purpose.
flint trench
thats how i feel too 😄
vivid sorrel
I tried with the lancet alone but i found a rock that i couldn't crack in the ha...
Quant? That's impossible 😄
Max rock size is 5122 IIRC, and i've broken those with 40%+ quant in them.
flint trench
it works for me I just have this module switch problem
vivid sorrel
You may need to go in like >5 meters though, and having surge and stampede helps not waiting 2 minnutes for it to warm up, heh.
topaz burrow
Ok, so passive modules disappear when claiming. DOH
vivid sorrel
yepp, annoying, but they consider them all consumables, which would be FINE for the active modules, but they really shouldn't treat the expensive passive modules the same.
stark oriole
Hello everyone I have a question the scrap erst always break or not?
vivid sorrel
Can you rephrase that? I don't understand the question.
stark oriole
for the purchase resale the scrap resource we can buy it or its remains a problem if I remember this resource was bugger (sorry I am French)
vivid sorrel
I haven't heard anyone here say it's broken, assuming there is stock and you're buying\selling at the right places
stark oriole
okay I know this site no worries just that friends of mine told me that the loops were more complicated because the scrap was buggy so I took a break but if you tell me it's only a rumor and not reality so that answers my question ^^
topaz burrow
Since my passives are gone now. I was running 2x vaux And rieger all c3. Any other ideas?
vivid sorrel
halo? I just do 1x vaux c3 for a tiny bit less instab, (only 20k a pop as well) and a surge and stampede for fast cracks
prime panther
hey yall is there a way to upgrade the mining capacity to be able to break 5k+ mass rocks
topaz burrow
Say mole was working and I wanted to mine with two people. What two mining heads to compliment eachother would be best Lancet mh2 and?
north oyster
@topaz burrow If you had two players, You can compound the effect of the Lancet by using two of them or you can go for power by using the Helix in combo with the Lancet. But the Helix has been castrated by CIG (it was the prior meta laser head), so you can't use it for solo but can use it with the Lancet. It has a ton of power.
wraith shale
Am I the only one who cannot buy anything at ARC-L1 mining shop?
north oyster
Am I the only one who cannot buy anything at ARC-L1 mining shop?
ALL the Refinery stores are broke
marble crater
good patch
north oyster
awesome patch .... soul sucking awesome
marble crater
really glad my Mole has been sitting there doing nothing the entire time
north oyster
just gives off warm vibes, doesn't it, LOL
marble crater
this game can test your patience sometimes lmao
north oyster
I will say I have been having fun mastering the Active Ping angle approach. It has saved me a ton of time in the Halo
marble crater
hope it's fixed in the 3.17.2 patch at least. yeah I might have to try the Prospector out. been a while
check out the new scanning
north oyster
3.17.2 is being proclaimed as the cat's meow
wraith shale
**ALL** the Refinery stores are broke
Yeah, just saw it going to HUR-L1...
north oyster
what are you looking for? I can see if I can locate a working kiosk somewhere
wraith shale
Do we know when 3.17.2 is supposed to come out?
north oyster
End of June
wraith shale
what are you looking for? I can see if I can locate a working kiosk somewhere
Stampede Module, it's at New Babbage from what I'm seeing..
north oyster
yeah, you have the ticket. I love finder.cstone.space
wraith shale
I was looking up the wikis before
Went to Orison and it didn't have it
Even though a wiki said so... Hahah
north oyster
CornerStone does some awesome work. That data is pulled from the servers. Also, never trust Wiki for anything
wraith shale
Oh directly from the servers? Then must be quite reliable
Also, would you know where I can ask people for "group mining"
By any chance
north oyster
there is a #looking-for-session that might work. Most of the group mining is on hiatus because of the MOLE bug
wraith shale
Oh what is that bug?
Didn't hear about it yet
But it might explain why I haven't seen anyone with a MOLE
north oyster
MOLE is totally sidelined this patch
wraith shale
(Btw thanks for your help)
Oh ok good to know
I won't waste time and money trying to get it then for now
north oyster
most certainly, really enjoy helping when I can
buoyant cedar
anyone like mining on Lyria who would want to help me crack a 7k quantanium rock?
viral lark
Do shops inventories refresh every minute? Or does it depend?
topaz burrow
ohh yes
north oyster
Do shops inventories refresh every minute? Or does it depend?
You can check the refresh rate on SC Trade Tools website for each item and store
FTW @topaz burrow that makes for a good round trip
topaz burrow
was a bad break, but still 31.90 quant. I liek
viral lark
You can check the refresh rate on SC Trade Tools website for each item and store
Right but I'm wondering what the actual refresh interval is since SC Trade Tools list everything as quantity per minute, but I swear I've waited multiple minutes and stocks have not changed
north oyster
But you're not waiting alone ... every other player on every server who would happen to be there is also waiting
That tiny number is what is all available through out the whole of SC
That's why Laranite is dead, as a rule of thumb
You are in a click war with everyone else
Not to mention that one day NPCs will also compete for the limited resources
vivid sorrel
I just bought a C2, because. And now i'm broke so can't use it anyway 😄 But just as well because flying it felt so bad 😛
north oyster
Love my C2
viral lark
Yeah I get that, I just wanted to know if the restock interval was actually a minute or not
north oyster
I just bought a C2, because. And now i'm broke so can't use it anyway 😄 But jus...
Try scrap, low front end commitment
vivid sorrel
No, it's not. It might be the internal stock replenishment, but the server replenishment "ticks" are not 1min for sure
viral lark
Thank you that's what I was looking for
vivid sorrel
Well.."for sure"...eh... let me rephrase it to, i can't imagine it being that. I haven't traded that much in the past to be that bombastic about it.
prime panther
ok i need help
im at lyria
trying to find some quant rocks
and i have not found a single one
vivid sorrel
How are you scanning for them?
vivid sorrel
What you want to do for Lyria, is ping as normal, then go 2 degrees, and only goto those that pop as multiple rocks. They will ALWAYS be quant. This can be done from 12 km away
Single rocks can also be quant, but you will then have to fly to each and every single rock to find out
Quant rock also seems to like to spawn around (not in) mountains, so look for flat'ish areas around mountains for best result
prime panther
i am having so much troubl
prime panther
Quant rock also *seems* to like to spawn around (not in) mountains, so look for ...
which side should i look here?
vivid sorrel
I don't know It's still RNG. But around the hills
prime panther
should i look towards the left or right?
vivid sorrel
Dude, i can't go like "you will find quant there 100%"
prime panther
true
i think i spent a total of 30 mins just looking for a rock
yeah i gave up
gonna go to aaron halo
north oyster
The active angle tuning with the Ping works wonderfully in the Halo. You can ID duds from a long ways off so you don't waste your time, you can ID and find Quan and head right to it without wasting time on all the other non-Q rocks
topaz burrow
yeah with those scan changes aaron halo is ez mode for quant. im turning massive amounts
prime panther
jesus man i didnt know mining would be this annoying
north oyster
I just need to remap my joysticks to make it easier. I'm moving some items around so that it will be Mining focused
prime panther
i only found one type q asteroid and it had 2 percent quant
its been 15 and i still cannot find one
north oyster
what band?
prime panther
wdym?
north oyster
Ok, you're just flying in and hoping for the best?
I'll link two things to look at then
One is a PDF that shows the layout of Aaron's Halo and the make up of the bands in the Halo
There other is how to use active angle scanning for picking out targets over 10K away and knowing what they are
prime panther
im trying to do this scanning thing
and i thought i had it
but maybe im just doing it wrong
topaz burrow
I've already shared SC monster vid on scanning
north oyster
LOL, I've shared about a dozen times now
@noble viper What value is this DM ping if no one EVER replies? Sort of a crappy method and defeats the request to not contact Moderators directly.
prime panther
so if im going to arc l1 to hurston the sweet spot is 13 668?
north oyster
I have found Band 4 and Band 2 to be pretty good so far. I think Band 1 might be good in that it is not dense at all and makes ID hits easier
I hope to test that further later tonight
prime panther
oh shit im at band 6 rn
north oyster
That will work good too
topaz burrow
I actually like band 3 and 7. Depending what side I'm going
north oyster
I think the bands are mirrored to each other
Plus you are coming from the outside to inside. I normally fly from inside to outside direction
I am speculating that Band 8 = Bank 1, etc
topaz burrow
I don't think there's a rule which one is better tho. All a preference.
north oyster
Before 3.17, there was a stark difference. I'm not so sure now because of some coce mods done
topaz burrow
Alright. I wasn't mining in prev patches
north oyster
Yeah, I found huge differences in both the amount of Quantainium and also the number of duds
prime panther
i might give up on mining, this is too frustrating for me
topaz burrow
If mole was working I'd take you and show you
north oyster
i might give up on mining, this is too frustrating for me
Not for everyone. But when 3.17.2 drops and you can work with some of the big teams in mining, then give that a shot. It will offer a better experience and good pay
north oyster
I didn't find anything better than 2% for the first two weeks after 3.17.1 dropped
topaz burrow
Geez brutal
north oyster
it is called "prospecting" for a reason 🙂
LOL, when I finally found a 10%, I thought I had hit the jackpot
topaz burrow
I actually had pretty good luck today. Got 138SCU cooking
north oyster
Now with the new ping management, it is easy peasie
topaz burrow
Agreed
north oyster
bravo!!
north oyster
I actually had pretty good luck today. Got 138SCU cooking
1.2m of happiness
topaz burrow
Died only once, my poor modules.lol
vivid sorrel
Don't get exploded by pirates on the way to sell it!
naive island
Hey guys i’m currently mining on daymar with my roc, does it pay more if i sell on grimhex instead of mining facility on the planet?
vivid sorrel
Like me... (alt-tabbed out and for some reason didn't hear warning until too late)
topaz burrow
Shouldn't
north oyster
Died only once, my poor modules.lol
speaking of modules, I discovered that my passive modules are exploding while I am doing pings. Pretty crazy. I've lost 3 surge units so far
vivid sorrel
Was a couple days ago, heh.
north oyster
Hey guys i’m currently mining on daymar with my roc, does it pay more if i sell ...
No, all sell for same price
prime panther
idk which is worse lyria or this
naive island
Okay, ty 👍
topaz burrow
I hit a bloody halo on arc L1 lol
vivid sorrel
Maybe mining isn't for you?
naive island
Best place to mine with prospector near crusader?
north oyster
Best place to mine with prospector near crusader?
Halo out of CRU-L1
naive island
Okay, ty again 🙏
north oyster
Aim for ARC-L3 and go roughly 11.5m KM
that'll put you in Band 4 which has been decent
prime panther
i want to make money man
north oyster
idk which is worse lyria or this
based off of your verbage and experience so far, maybe you should give mining a rest for awhile and have fun. Bounty hunting is good pay also
north oyster
ah, ok, rest up and see it later with a fresh set of eyes
topaz burrow
i want to make money man
Mining is not the fastest way to make money. bunkers are. Mining is just more relaxed and less risky
north oyster
Mining is the Goose that lays the golden eggs in SC. it can let you buy anything in the game
prime panther
That’s why I want to do mining man
vivid sorrel
Doesn't help it if you don't like it. Better to do what's fun for him and earn a little less money IMO
Or he'll burn out
prime panther
oh no I love mining, it’s just the finding a specific rock is what’s super annoying
And when u do it’s not a 100 percent u will get a good yield from it
topaz burrow
Well, don't get too attach.to.money and burn yourself out making it. SC is in alpha and you can lose it any minute. 3.18 is rumoured to be a full wipe so bye bye ships and money :) only your wisdom will stay
north oyster
loved this clip from Red Monster's video
vivid sorrel
Doubt it's gonna be a wipe in 3.18, past they give lot of warning time wise. But it is CIG, and they don't know what good CS is so... who knows
topaz burrow
loved this clip from Red Monster's video
I love this guy