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#industrial-professions
toxic comet
ah yeah fair. any set trade routes atm?
vivid sorrel
no it's all trying to grab anything with volume IMO, because freefly and eeeveryone gets big SCU ships like c2 and caterpillar to test and run cargo
strange delta
pls fix my mole ty
deep vector
Tbh trading for a long time became titanium
vivid sorrel
That's new...blew up a tiny purple rock with decent distance, no quant in it even...and ship goes power dead 😛
Guess it was enough distance 😄
deep vector
That’s why military powerplant and palisade shield
deep vector
I even changed to palisade shield now and maxed power to them
You were too close)
vivid sorrel
No see i need you to support me in it being the janky game fault and not me 😛
deep vector
I was given once to just unbrick the piece, was like ok. Then demo man took it from me and put detonator in it and I was like wtf is this
deep vector
No see i need you to support me in it being the janky game fault and not me 😛
It still was desync
Lol
As expected
tawdry light
marble crater
only the Prospector & Mole can currently do ship mining
MSR could carry a ROC and you could do ROC mining instead
robust hawk
vivid sorrel
RNG
trail badger
Orison trading console.ship console says ship is empty.retrieve-)store then cargo shown normally, but on trading ship does not show on sell option. Same with the connie
vivid sorrel
i'd say from 200k to 50k, depending on skill and RNG
north oyster
Orison trading console.ship console says ship is empty.retrieve-)store then carg...
The TDD is where you sell, not the admin. What cargo, where from and where to?
elder island
hello question how much money do you guys make with trading? Average in 1h
trail badger
The TDD is where you sell, not the admin. What cargo, where from and where to?
Construction materials
marble crater
hello question how much money do you guys make with trading? Average in 1h
from -$1M+ to +$300k lol
north oyster
hello question how much money do you guys make with trading? Average in 1h
Trade isn't really in a good place at this time. Only favors the largest carriers. The special event commodities will soon be gone too
elder island
those being fireworks?
sick junco
oh shit is there a better route than my Distilled spirits run from Port Tress to Buds Growery?
elder island
I usally did fireworks from CRU-L1 to Hurston Space port forgot the name.
its like 100k+ in a 10min trip
boreal steeple
Hi can someone tell me if its possible to park my prospector at area 18 (im new and i thaught i can sell raw ore there) take another ship to arc l1 and claim my prospector there. Im a bit afraid of the quantanium timer
void scarab
Hi can someone tell me if its possible to park my prospector at area 18 (im new ...
if you claim your ship anywhere other than where you parked / stored it then all the cargo will be deleted
boreal steeple
Damn..was so proud of my first tour^^ thank you for the explanation @void scarab
spare fog
any one else having issues buying stuff from refinery docks the screens are all blacked out and cant buy myself a stampede module
sick junco
I usally did fireworks from CRU-L1 to Hurston Space port forgot the name.
its l...
What ship u using? And how much are you putting down for your shipment?
elder island
What ship u using? And how much are you putting down for your shipment?
C2 and around 800k for a full load selling for around 900k
north oyster
Damn..was so proud of my first tour^^ thank you for the explanation <@187993707...
All activities with mining goes through the refineries except mined gems with hand or the ROC. You can sell the raw at the refinery (you get half the value) or you can refine for full value. The type of method you use determines yield, cost and time until it is ready to pickup and take to market. You can not take refined goods to market in the Prospector. It has to be a cargo ship, the minimum of which is the Cutlass Black.
Refinery stations are the L1 stations. Except for Hurston, which has a refinery on both HUR-L1 and HUR-L2
sick junco
that's only a 12% profit
sick junco
C2 and around 800k for a full load selling for around 900k
how long per run? if it's above 9 minutes then it doesn't seem as efficient
north oyster
that's only a 12% profit
you're going to be hard pressed to make more than mid teens on return. You won't be finding much above that. The AV bug of 100% return was a total fluke. Lower 20% returns are available but normally in very limited quantities.
Titanium, Gold, and a few others are your normal commodities for trade
ruby mango
Will a drake mule fit inside a cutty?
white hemlock
Will a drake mule fit inside a cutty?
Yes
junior crescent
what's the usual trade items people buy and sell nowadays
vivid sorrel
Whatever they can get in high volume
north oyster
what's the usual trade items people buy and sell nowadays
trade is pretty rough right now. It only favors the largest cargo ships (C2, CAT, etc). Scrap, Gold, Titanium and other commodities are available but the margins are not huge. It's there but will take time. You also need to build up funds for a full load.
worn dock
Can I ROC mine with a Cutty Red?
vivid sorrel
mmm....i think i heard of someone doing that, but i cannot personally confirm
worn dock
thinking of trading the Black in for the Red to have an ambulance for my org
but would like to do "missions" where I can pack up and leave at a moment's notics
notice
pale crane
The ROC fit in the Cutlass red
pale crane
If it fits, it sits
wraith cairn
Uhh, not sure in which channel to ask this but its kindof about cargo I guess.
The drugs that spawn in the destroy/clear site of drugs mercenary missions, I heard its hard to find a place that will actually buy them, is that still the case?
vivid sorrel
I read someone saying it was an issue time too, getting it all out and selling it wasn't worth the hassle
Actually i hate that mission...maybe if they SOLD grenade launcher as in the past...but nooo...gotta go punch 640 bags of drugs
wraith cairn
well, I know its not great for money becouse of the time it takes, just wanted to mess around with some unusual gameplay, Im just curious if I can actually sell it now
elder island
how long per run? if it's above 9 minutes then it doesn't seem as efficient
its around 8-12min your just going from a space station to another space station and if you have a fast QT drive it helps quite a bit
north oyster
Can I ROC mine with a Cutty Red?
I wouldn't recommend it
worn dock
Thanks, I think I'll keep the Black and save up credits to buy the Red in-game. A friend recommends renting the ROC instead of buying it, since it would take so long to recoup the 167,000 credits.
wheat sandal
is the lancet mh2 good for quant mining?
worn dock
I've been doing bunker missions for cash, but now the bodies despawn if they're killed and I'm not in the bunker. Also, it takes so freaking long to gather the loot
wheat sandal
trying to figure out what to put on my new prospector
rose cedar
trying to figure out what to put on my new prospector
surge, stampede, brandt modules are what i use along w my lancet mh1 drill head
wintry ruin
I have a hurc with 200k of material aboard I was going to sell landed at NB but it's now showing up with an option to spawn it, only to claim.
Anyone know if there's a work around or am I just stuffed?
icy yew
Guys whats the best cargo run rn?
north oyster
Thanks, I think I'll keep the Black and save up credits to buy the Red in-game. ...
The ROC can earn about 200K per trip. You will also need the Pembroke armor, you will want to mine on Aberdeen. Daymar is also liked but not as much there.
ProTip. QT to the OM-1 orbital marker and dive to the surface from there (be sure to not crater on the surface). It will always be daylight under OM-1
The Hadanite you mine (all gems actually) does not need to be refined. Just sell them at any outpost on the moon you are on.
worn dock
ProTip. QT to the OM-1 orbital marker and dive to the surface from there (be sur...
thanks!
exactly the info I needed!
north oyster
ROC mining is very viable now with the latest build. So I would say it is worth buying once you have gotten good with it on the rental.
Also, if the scan doesn't work, you can zoom in on the deposit and look for pinkish veins in the rocks
vivid sorrel
It's viable, if the servers wasn't on fire this week .P
worn dock
I was reading that you can decrease the angle of the scanner to get a better readout of the contacts ahead of you at a greater range. Is that only for miner scanners?
I tried for more than two hours to make a permanent 1SCU box, but the body and wreckage kept despawning
north oyster
It's viable, if the servers wasn't on fire this week .P
Free Fly being the exception, LOL
quasi current
I just found a 7 cluster of quant rocks😭
worn dock
so yeah, server was barfing.
vivid sorrel
No, but since gem deposits only show at 3km, well i guess you could do a 2 degree scan and get early look at number of deposits..i don't think you get type though, but not 100% sure. Haven't used the scan angle ROC mining tbh
north oyster
I was reading that you can decrease the angle of the scanner to get a better rea...
you don't need any of that type of manuvers for ROC mining
worn dock
oh okay. was trying to cut down on flying from box icon to the next
north oyster
The gem deposits do not show up until about 2k, and unlike the large deposits that vanish as approaching them, the gems deposits continue to offer a ping response until you are on top of them.
worn dock
oh wow 2k. That's good to know
north oyster
small deposits, unlike the huge boulders of the other ore deposits
worn dock
I need to watch some more videos on ROC mining, instead of Prospector mining. The only hands-on mining I've done was in prison. 😂
north oyster
ROC mining is one of my favorite game loops, but it got killed in 3.14. Now that it is back, I'm waiting for the Free Fly to be over to get back to it. It makes good coin and can earn you enough to buy the Prospector in a decent amount of time. The cutty black can also haul the refined jobs from the Prospector too.
Once you have both the Prospector mining and the ROC mining, you can change up as you wish for varity.
worn dock
oh there's actually a use for the side freight doors before the cargo refactor!
one more question, since I'm at work. Can I fit both a permanent 1SCU box and a ROC in the Cutty Black?
north oyster
yes, there should be enough room for both. One way to test is to load the ROC in the cutty then go to the trade terminal at the outpost you loaded it at and then see how much space it see with the ROC in the ship.
worn dock
oh neat. thanks!
vivid sorrel
You have space in the pilot part of the ship anyway
frail jolt
Ohh so wait if I store my ship with a roc or other ground vehicle it will still be in there ?
north oyster
yes
It could get buggy also, the ROC's components do fail also, I would suggest reclaiming it every two outings or so for safety
frail jolt
Ohh shit didn’t know that the components failed ! That’s a big thank you lol Also how do you get permanent 1scu boxes ? I’ve only seen the ship drop ones
lethal aspen
ROC mining is one of my favorite game loops, but it got killed in 3.14. Now that...
What do you mean by "free fly" is that a bug or something?
frail jolt
Free fly is a chance for anyone to play the game for free, it creates a lot of strain on the servers from what I’ve seen and heard
north oyster
there is an unimplemented box in the game, but I don't think it is in use atm
lethal aspen
I tried ROC mining on Daymar, and went to OM-1. Had a pretty hard time trying to find Hadenite often enough to make it worth my time, even though I was in the right areas to find it.
north oyster
I tried ROC mining on Daymar, and went to OM-1. Had a pretty hard time trying to...
Daymar isn't a great place, imo. Aberdeen is the highest density in the Stanton system
The hotter the planet, the more hadanite
frail jolt
Everything I’ve seen said daymar was the better spot of the two
north oyster
negative
frail jolt
Good to know
real axle
Aberdeen is indeed the most Hadanite populated
lethal aspen
Might be worth trying again, I guess. I've had a lot of fun doing mercenary missions, just hit the third tank with a security company, 60K per contract bunker mission. Not bad at all.
north oyster
Aberdeen is a more brutal enviroment and requires the Pembroke armor set. However, Daymar has some hadanite and you can just use heavy amor to mine there
frail jolt
I’ve yet to get those but I got the contraband missions which is 55k
lethal aspen
I was spending 2 hours per haul of ROC mining, and it wasn't worth at all.
I hate contraband missions, you need so much ammo just to get all the narcotics out of there.
frail jolt
Yea they’re not fun that’s for sure, that’s why I’m trying to get the normal 60k missions but I’ve yet to get them sadly
north oyster
ROC mining is now becoming an option with the new patch. However, it won't be "safe" until free fly is over and the servers aren't being mutilated by the load on them.
junior crescent
trade is pretty rough right now. It only favors the largest cargo ships (C2, CAT...
I use a C2 but ain't got a clue on what to buy haha
I'm hovering on 1.7m uec
lethal aspen
Just run the illegal satellite missions, and the normal 15K bunker missions back to back, you'll get your rank up in a few days of playing casually.
frail jolt
Yes that’s why I stuck to bunkers tbh, the unstable servers is a pain and I’ve had to relog multiple times
north oyster
I use a C2 but ain't got a clue on what to buy haha
check out Jack Axton's Trade Refresher course on YT. It's about 6 mths old but still viable.
lethal aspen
ROC mining is now becoming an option with the new patch. However, it won't be "s...
Do we have any kinda timeline on when they might fix it? I haven't had a ton of really out-of-the-norm glaring issues this week.
north oyster
Do we have any kinda timeline on when they might fix it? I haven't had a ton of ...
End of June with patch 3.17.2
vivid sorrel
I tried ROC mining on Daymar, and went to OM-1. Had a pretty hard time trying to...
Try flying to terrain features you see from orbit, Hadanite imo seems to like it near those and hills\mountains, though not as much in them, but around
mental forge
Should I ROC mine in a cutty or an MSR
north oyster
Should I ROC mine in a cutty or an MSR
I prefer the MAX
vivid sorrel
Whatever you like the most?
north oyster
but any of those work
lethal aspen
Yes that’s why I stuck to bunkers tbh, the unstable servers is a pain and I’ve h...
They always have those stupid inventory glitches where it won't let you pick up any of the items in chests or on bodies either, unless you directly equip it.
vivid sorrel
I mean Nomas IMO is the best speed and turn wise, which helps alot in scanning, but it's ramp sucks.
lethal aspen
Try flying to terrain features you see from orbit, Hadanite imo seems to like it...
Definitely did that, and it was still kinda hard to find it. Flew low and slow, not much really popped up. Maybe it's because it was on Daymar.
lethal aspen
End of June with patch 3.17.2
Thanks, I didn't know that whole thing was going on. So it's not normally as bad as it is right now?
north oyster
hard to define "bad" but yes, 3.17 is a soul sucking dumpster fire. 3.16 was way more stable.
mental forge
hard to define "bad" but yes, 3.17 is a soul sucking dumpster fire. 3.16 was way...
3.17 was ok but I got crashes every 20mins in 3.17.1
lethal aspen
hard to define "bad" but yes, 3.17 is a soul sucking dumpster fire. 3.16 was way...
Heard. I've had multiple boots back to the menu, server disconnects and other problems like that. I just got the game last week, and figured it was part of the "testing" experience.
mental forge
Do you think that the game will be more stable after the free-fly or will I have to wait till the next patch?
vivid sorrel
Definitely did that, and it was still kinda hard to find it. Flew low and slow, ...
Sory, needed to get some quant landed and not blow up 😄
But yes, Daymar has less hadanite in my experience, tough what speed are you flying around and scanning at?
Around 300 is where the sweet spot imo is, it gives a good speed to pick up new deposits, but also not crazy speed so you can't turn to boost 90 degrees for a side deposit (if you scan 180 forward)
ah...i wanted that pure 3200 😛
north oyster
Heard. I've had multiple boots back to the menu, server disconnects and other pr...
They have alternate code teams, so they are developing two sets of codes at the same time. Some issues will magically reappear because a fixed bug in one code hasn't caught up to the other. But they are changing a few things come 3.18. No actually they are changing a whole lot of stuff, enough to be called whole new version if it wasn't SC
mental forge
I had a mil worth of quant in the refinery before 3.17.1 dropped 😦
vivid sorrel
ah, and you didn't transport them?
mental forge
ah, and you didn't transport them?
But alas, when I woke up the following day, the patch had dropped
spice pendant
Is ROC mining good?
flint breach
Is ROC mining good?
it can be ya
spice pendant
it can be ya
Aberdeen still best?
flint breach
Aberdeen still best?
ya aberdeen is good
vivid sorrel
Aberdeen has the best deposits, but it's annoying. You need special suit, and you can't see shit, weather is crap and just planet itself is horrible. Daymar is nice and sunny, and no weather effects to speak of
It's not ALL about the 💰 Remember to have fun doing it too 😄
worn dock
They always have those stupid inventory glitches where it won't let you pick up ...
If you can't pick them up and don't have "grab" choose "customize" and you will pick it up
zinc plover
is trading really a good way to make money (i mean with an hercules)
toxic citrus
Yes and no
Its risky with the amount of money you need to have to make a good profit
zinc plover
i can understand only bugs
what is gankers and 30ks
toxic citrus
30k=server crash
and gankers are pirates but they don't care for your cargo
Meaning they'll just kill you
zinc plover
but why ?
zinc plover
it isn't fun lmao
toxic citrus
For them it is
zinc plover
it is fun only if you do bounty with real players because you get money from this
zinc plover
anyways i haven't seen anyone killing for like 2 months
toxic citrus
C2 ramps have been buggy lately on top of all 
zinc plover
Its fun for them in the fact that they know you'll get salty
yeah its right if someone do that to me im gonna get his adress and manually kill him just to see how salty these mf are
zinc plover
C2 ramps have been buggy lately on top of all <:kekw:875083074956820540>
every ramp in this game is buggy...
toxic citrus
I present to you
opal yoke
Was AVEQ only trade-abel during Invictus? Or did I luck out and manage to have no stock?
toxic citrus
Was AVEQ only trade-abel during Invictus? Or did I luck out and manage to have n...
Ur shit outta luck
ILW ended like 20 mins ago
toxic citrus
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opal yoke
screm
opal yoke
Welp tough luck for me, back to scouring for Agricium
vale swan
how would someone start doing cargo in star citizen
toxic citrus
how would someone start doing cargo in star citizen
First off
Own at least a freelancer max
zinc plover
I present to you
wah the ship reversed when the ramp has been deployed?
toxic citrus
Yep
vale swan
i have a Cat
toxic citrus
The whole fucking thing
zinc plover
saw something on yt today but it was for the ILW
zinc plover
just search for trading guide that's what i would do
zinc plover
2 commodities at least were removed
wich ones ?
zinc plover
yeah like one or 2 days
but some people managed to make over 100 millions coins
i wish i had that money to buy a c2
toxic citrus
Yeah some did
zinc plover
these guys are lucky
zinc plover
pls no
zinc plover
when you have to start from 0 its so hard to make a few millions
zinc plover
There's gonna be one sooner or later anyway
why ?
zinc plover
yeah but only the guys wich abused of that should be wiped or banned
if everything on the game is recorded as i heard
vivid sorrel
I don't think that's relevant to their consideration. If and when a system change requires a wipe we will get wiped. But it won't be for a trivial reason.
toxic citrus
Yep
But we'll see
Although I can see one happening in 4.0
Because of major tech implementation
zinc plover
yeah
toxic citrus
4.0 is scheduled EVO late this year
zinc plover
but maybe at this time there will be some good money making methods for people just starting... so everyone after a wipe
toxic citrus
Or that's what they say they are aiming for
red loom
is it worth it to buy a ship for transporting your ores from the refinery to the trading spot? If so, which?
teal saffron
what is a good way to get started on mining for the first time?
red loom
get started with a roc
red loom
i personally went to wala a lot. Not sure how smart that is, but it worked
red loom
you have to go to a mining area to get your roc (you have to rent it before)
teal saffron
ok
red loom
i recommend that you take a ship with you like the cutless black which can fit the roc inside and than fly with the ship instead driving with the roc. Else its just annoying with the gravity and the rocks on the ground.
teal saffron
ok cool
also should i upgrade my aurora CL for a
avenger titan?
its only 10 bucks
or 15
teal saffron
k but it can carry the ROC right?
toxic citrus
Then no
red loom
there is the free fly event still as far as i know so you can just rent a c2 hercules on crusader
toxic citrus
No you can't
toxic citrus
there is the free fly event still as far as i know so you can just rent a c2 her...
Nope
red loom
aurora doesnt fit a roc in
toxic citrus
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toxic citrus
^^^
toxic citrus
Yep
red loom
oh, then sry my bad
teal saffron
so which should i do trade or mine?
cerulean lichen
Well lost my prefect haul of quant because the ship wouldn’t store and could only be claimed at the refinery
teal saffron
i only have like 30k
teal saffron
ok
toxic citrus
Or hand mining
teal saffron
i used the titan
cerulean lichen
Delivery missions are great
teal saffron
i rented it for a day
red loom
isnt it worth it to just mine with the roc?
toxic citrus
Well
red loom
if you cant do anything else?
red loom
hmm ok, i see what you mean
teal saffron
im going to buy the titan it's only 10-15 bucks
red loom
i dont think the titan is worth it ngl
teal saffron
but isn'ty it better than the aurora CL
red loom
hmm
red loom
aurora has 6scu and the titan has 8scu
teal saffron
yea
cerulean lichen
Delivery missions are an easy way of making money early on, that’s what I recommend. I made my first million just doing those missions
teal saffron
ok
vivid sorrel
Well lost my prefect haul of quant because the ship wouldn’t store and could onl...
If that happenns again, and ship is on the pad, spawn another ship at that location, and the old one should be stored automagically
teal saffron
also is it just me or anyone else, i have a lot of trouble just trying to land at area 18 i keep on going into a restricted zone
cerulean lichen
If that happenns again, and ship is on the pad, spawn another ship at that locat...
I logged out and when I logged back in it was stored! Off to the refinery controls I go
teal saffron
yea
vivid sorrel
You might see better if you actually go up a bit in orbit, depending on what direction you came in
cerulean lichen
How often should I sell refined quant from the refinery? I got about 100 refined right now and just dropped off 32 more ore.
vale swan
where do i find the trading panels to buy CArgo ?
im at arc l1 trading
like in hanger and habs galleria
cerulean lichen
Admin office I believe
vale swan
where is admin office on one of those big stations on a moon
vivid sorrel
How often should I sell refined quant from the refinery? I got about 100 refined...
When you feel like you need some money, or it's getting "enough"? Personally i fly a freelancer max, so when it gets to 100+ SCU i transport it in.
hollow sedge
want to do some cargo in a drake caterpillar i could use a gunner
zinc plover
catterpillar is really good for trading
hollow sedge
its a rented ship
slim atlas
anyone know where to find the ready up hat? I've noticed it missing from a lot of shops
zinc plover
probably because a player already take everything
you have to wait for another person to deliver cargos here or just swap between servers
zinc plover
its a rented ship
Make the more money you can do using the catterpillar during the time you rent it
cerulean lichen
I’ll just bring my c2 to the refinery later tonight when everything is done refining and just sell it all. No point on just letting it sit there
hollow sedge
want to do some cargo in a drake caterpillar i could use a gunner
dm me if you want
worn dock
Delivery missions are an easy way of making money early on, that’s what I recomm...
I gave up last week when every mission was bugged out. All sorts of different ways, too
rugged axle
@slim atlas ready ups are at Tammany and sons in lorville.
slim atlas
<@296515678607900673> ready ups are at Tammany and sons in lorville.
thanks, used to find them elsewhere but these changes have been weird with stuff like this
rugged axle
Yea I was there last night and they still had them. If I was home I would just give you the one I looted. I hate the way they look
slim atlas
I just wanted it so when I wear clothes I dont space myself by mistake lol
pastel musk
When you feel like you need some money, or it's getting "enough"? Personally i f...
how much does this make u if u trade in 100scu of quant
i have zero clue whether mining or trading makes more and idk where to start
vivid sorrel
1 mil maybe?
pastel musk
so do you mine in like a prospector then haul in the freelancer max?
vivid sorrel
yes
pastel musk
any tips on how to start? i know next to nothing
pastel musk
i have two friends who wanna do it with me one will buy a freelancer max and me and the other friend are stuck between buying a mole and a prospector
gaunt fiber
I’d recommend the Prospector… much more options for you, you can solo mine or join a group of other Prospectors/Moles
I have both, and I rarely take my Mole out any more
but if you have a built in group of people who want to mine, then the Mole is a nice option for sure
buoyant grail
Is the mole still broken?
gaunt fiber
idk
I have not heard if the issue with the Mole has been fixed, so I would count on it being broken still just to be safe
north oyster
i have two friends who wanna do it with me one will buy a freelancer max and me ...
the MOLE is still having issues with this patch, things will probably not be cleaned up until 3.17.2 at the end of June (early July possibly). The MOLE is the best for team, but you can also do team with the Prospector by having members go out as scouts. Plus when you're soloing, the Prospector is the solo mining ship you want.
hollow sedge
whats best way to make money except mining and hauling fireworks ?
north oyster
Aberdeen still best?
Hadanite is a product of the hottest planets, so Aberdeen has the highest concentration of hadanite in the Stanton system. This moon also has the most brutal nights you can imagine. One trick I use is to quantum jump to orbital marker OM-1. If you dive down to the surface from there, it will always be daylight. Also, you will have to have the Pembroke armor set.
north oyster
whats best way to make money except mining and hauling fireworks ?
Bounty Hunting by far
Even with entry level ships you can make decent coin and rise up a few levels.
Another mission is the illegal surveillance. You can make 20k aUEC per pop and it takes about 15min or less per mission. The trick here is to locate all three satellites before firing on them. If you get within 2k of the target you will get a permanent pip on the target. Once you have all three located, you can quickly know them out and earn 20K. You do not have to kill the NPC ships that arrive to protect them.
north oyster
any tips on how to start? i know next to nothing
it's worth going through the steep learning curve. This patch isn't nearly as stable and clean as prior, so a more solid patch will be here at the end of June (patch 3.17.2).
spice pendant
Where can I summon a roc on day mar?
lime nova
Now with fireworks and souvenirs firmly in the grave, what'd be a good trade route to run in a C2?
lime nova
Where can I summon a roc on day mar?
Any place that can call a ground vehicle, mostly mining facilities.
scarlet rover
Where can I summon a roc on day mar?
look for mining stations, will have M or MS in the name
north oyster
Where can I summon a roc on day mar?
Mining Area 141 and Shubin SCD-1 are the two with the Platinum pads
hasty hawk
hello I am just starting out and don't understand how restocking of Larnite works because sometimes it is full but others I can't get any
north oyster
hello I am just starting out and don't understand how restocking of Larnite work...
Laranite has been dead for two years now
north oyster
At one time, each server controlled it's own supply and you could get all the laranite you wanted and make millions upon millions. But now all commodities are linked to all servers, so you are competing with everyone at the same time.
north oyster
what should I sell then?
Check out Jack Axton's Trading refresher course on YT, it's about 6 mths old but still relevant
What size ship do you have?
north oyster
That's another problem with trade, it ONLY favors the largest carriers. So at this time you can't do anything until you have a C2 or CAT or Carrick
Trade isn't a viable career at this time
lime nova
and if i have a C2?
hasty hawk
dang
well what is the best way to get $ without pve b/c I don't like doing PVE all the time I just wanna chill
north oyster
and if i have a C2?
Start with Scrap if you are limited in funds. Then Titanium, Gold, and a number of other commodities like that. Again, Jack's video goes over all that stuff.
lime nova
sweet.
north oyster
Scrap from Area18 TDD to ARC-L1 is a good short run
Gold from Lyria Homebolt or Loveridge (can't remember) and also Titanium
You can grab what little laranite you find also
lime nova
Alright, I'll start with scrap and move my way up.
btw, is the cargo rework coming in 3.18.0?
hasty hawk
does that make a lot of $ tho?
north oyster
btw, is the cargo rework coming in 3.18.0?
Yes, 3.18 is going to be a long time coming. Very long time, maybe 3 to 4 months. The changes are going to be freaking crazy
lime nova
Yes, 3.18 is going to be a long time coming. Very long time, maybe 3 to 4 months...
I know it's a long ass way away, but hey.
north oyster
After 3.17.2 drops, 3.18 should show up for Evocati to begin testing
The cargo refactor will touch every aspect of the game
lime nova
And 3.17.2 is late next month, yes?
north oyster
Hopefully before end of June
lime nova
hopefully.
north oyster
They should be able (stressing SHOULD) because it is the same code as this hot mess of 3.17.1 but this fixes applied and some of the stability of the 3.16 code applied.
lime nova
alright.
hollow sedge
Bounty Hunting by far
so i see ill have to do some mining when they fix argo mole
lime musk
how do people make profit trading commodities if there are never any to buy? Everywhere i go its dry of commodities
crimson rapids
i buyin like 200k in laranite and just swapping outposts
pastel flame
Filling the remainder with Titanium isn't the worst either
slim atlas
how do people make profit trading commodities if there are never any to buy? Ev...
on the trade tool mentioned set refresh rate to 2500+
those are lower per run but never out
leaden dew
best route for cargo running at high profit?
blissful robin
i just tried to sell ore and it sailed transaction failed
spice pendant
on the trade tool mentioned set refresh rate to 2500+
Where’s refresh rate
spice pendant
i just tried to sell ore and it sailed transaction failed
Just got a keep trying
slim atlas
under the Miscellaneous tab
spice pendant
under the Miscellaneous tab
So, those never run out, it do they always sell?
feral totem
I just did three belt runs using this method in the post above. Managed to find 40+% quant on all three runs within 15min.
#profit
I found his extra tips at the end very helpful: Fly in decoupled mode at 250m/s, and just point and scan various signatures while still travelling in a straight line consistently. And set a route so that you get a reference point in space around where the sun is
calm hazel
is port olisar the only place currently to get the lancet head?
feral totem
is port olisar the only place currently to get the lancet head?
A few other places also: Lorville and MT.
You can find any item here.
https://finder.cstone.space/ShipMiningHeads1/ba94a262-bc0a-4484-9bbd-a4be7a2ec3e7
calm hazel
so every planet but the one I'm at lol
cerulean lichen
Sold 76 quant and only got around 650k seems kinda low but it’s probably right
humble kernel
Do you need a prospector to do q-mining?
feral totem
Sold 76 quant and only got around 650k seems kinda low but it’s probably right
88 per cSCU, so thats 7,600 units x 88 aUEC so thats 668,800
feral totem
Do you need a prospector to do q-mining?
Yes. Minimally. And quant goes boom after 14min in your ship. So you gotta hustle
raw stag
Okay, how in the hell do we buy stampede modules with the bugged out interaction system and the blank terminals in refinery stations?
I'm losing my mind here, been trying for 15 mins to trick the inner thoughts system to go from green to blue so I can buy it
winter flare
Hullo everyone! Are the new commodities now gone that the event is over?
cerulean lichen
88 per cSCU, so thats 7,600 units x 88 aUEC so thats 668,800
Ahh to surprisingly accurate. Thanks
feral totem
Okay, how in the hell do we buy stampede modules with the bugged out interaction...
New Babbage Shubin Interstellar is the only place to buy it rn
raw stag
Got it, thanks
crimson rapids
anyone got tips for when you get attacked with cargo on board?
ive made a good 300k so far and havent gotten attacked but being prepared seems like a good idea
raw stag
From what I understand, pop noise flares and book it
Make sure you've got the best shield you can get for your ship as well
There's not really any circumstance in which you'll fight back
winter flare
also flee.
be intentional when you take off
for an example, you don't have to travel ALL the way when you go quantum.
drop out earlier and hang out in deep space for a while
if you're interdicted though and you don't have a crew or the shields to fight back, pay up 😄
naive night
ive yet to meet a pirate that is worth a shit, lol. just gun it. in the big ships and those big shields, you dont have to worry
winter flare
I think you lose your cargo if you alt-f4.
cerulean lichen
By the way I highly recommend calliope for mining. It’s super quiet and some good quant. Though it can be very dark and high winds can make miming difficult
But I have had good success here
sterile skiff
Anyone having the problem when you go to buy cargo at some admin terminals or tdd that its only showing scrap and waste and nothing else
hollow rune
can i take the narcotics from this mission and sell them elsewhere?
toxic citrus
can i take the narcotics from this mission and sell them elsewhere?
Nothing buys it
Well 2 places do
But the demand is bugged
So its not viable
hollow rune
what 2 places, for later knowledge
sterile skiff
Because thats the only thing they sell
arc L1 also sells fireworks at the admin and the admin at area 18 also sells audio equipment and construction materials but i only see scrap and waste
toxic citrus
arc L1 also sells fireworks at the admin and the admin at area 18 also sells aud...
It does not
Those were ILW special commodities
Which is over now
You cant buy fireworks, audio stuff anymore
sterile skiff
so then the uex hasnt been updated got it
toxic citrus
Yep
calm hazel
oh fml, found a great quant rock to try out my new boremax on lyrica... and left the boremax on lorville
there's no way I could like mark the rock and come back is there?
feral totem
oh fml, found a great quant rock to try out my new boremax on lyrica... and left...
You could try taking a bearing/range from a ground reference point. But otherwise, no. Unless you have a delivery box that you can drop
calm hazel
if I managed to get back to the same spot, would the rock still be there or would it despawn when I got too far away?
feral totem
It should still be there AFAIK unless you switch servers (read: crash)
calm hazel
think I'd be able to mine a 5400 size rock with a prospector, lancet, and boremax?
cursive cave
How profitable is mining? I've been wanting something like it where I can turn my brain off for like 8 hours and make absolute bank and I feel mining may be the way to do that
What sort of like cheap ships should I buy for mining purposes
calm hazel
prospector for mining from the air, ROC + scouting ship for ground mining. Both are profitable though I think air is more profit
crystal ginkgo
can i take the narcotics from this mission and sell them elsewhere?
how do you unlock those missions?
hollow rune
how do you unlock those missions?
do enough of the blakjack missions
crystal ginkgo
do enough of the blakjack missions
arccorp? do i just need to grind bounty rep or?
hollow rune
i think its mercenary, the bottom most option
calm hazel
I just claimed a refinery job to my ship in a hangar, but when I got there, no ore
What do I do? Going back to check the refinery now
calm hazel
Oh
Well I hope I didn't destroy it in my panic
By stowing the ship, then relogging
Shouldn't I be able to see it on some menu or another?
vivid sorrel
Yeah you'd think that 😄 But no, only when you go to sell AFAIK
3.18 will change how cargo works, so i'd expect something alot better then
vivid sorrel
😿 When you find a nice patch of 8 Quant rocks, and they ALL suck
keen bay
How to get to aarons halo?
vivid sorrel
How to get to aarons halo?
worn dock
I haven't managed to get a box mission for days that doesn't bug out, and I'm thinking of maybe getting into hauling cargo. I was thinking that the TS to Euteropa scrap route would give me an idea if I like it
can I dabble with this in my Cutty Black, or would I end up not covering fuel costs?
Better yet, what's the cheapest ship to rent and still make a profit?
marble crater
can I dabble with this in my Cutty Black, or would I end up not covering fuel co...
you could try Agricium, Laranite, Med Supplies. hard to find in large numbers but shouldn't be too bad in a Cutty Black to try at least. Agricium will net around $17K Med Supplies a bit over 10K
north oyster
Scrap is only for the big ships if making money is the goal
worn dock
you could try Agricium, Laranite, Med Supplies. hard to find in large numbers bu...
thanks!
north oyster
Also, don't run any of the free fly commodities because they may be turned off now
worn dock
Scrap is only for the big ships if making money is the goal
yeah, that idea was just to learn the game loop without splashing out cash, to see if I like it
yeah, saw elsewhere that they've all been removed
marble crater
otherwise you could try ROC mining if you have a Cutty Black already
worn dock
that
north oyster
Then N19 have the best pointers on that
worn dock
that's on the menu for this weekend
marble crater
only $4K credits to rent a ROC for the day, about as low cost as it comes
north oyster
ROC mining is back on the menu, great to see it working again
worn dock
wanted to check out freight as well before committing to ROC mining
north oyster
You can earn about 200k per trip
worn dock
going to rent a ROC for three days this weekend
marble crater
cargo is pretty bad ngl. especially with big ships comes big risk
worn dock
yeah
north oyster
Trade is not in a good place
worn dock
I did not know that. Guess the best plan is to wait for the cargo refactor before trying it out
still just selling ROC proceeds on-planet instead of refining?
cuts down on the pirate hazard, which is nice
Aberdeen or Daymar for ROC mining?
marble crater
you don't refine ROC gems, just sell at a Trade terminal at a HDMS or Mining Facility ground outpost (sometimes you have to back the ROC out onto the pad for the terminal to see it)
worn dock
oh, thanks for the warning about that
marble crater
Aberdeen, Arial (both need Pembroke hot suit) & Daymar are all good spots
strongly advise claiming a new ROC after every sell trip too
worn dock
Thanks, I was planning on the Pembroke suit to loot shipwrecks in any case
pull the old empty one onto a pad, or just anywhere on the ground first?
marble crater
anywhere on the ground. The ROC is prone to breaking down after around an hour
worn dock
oh dear. That's not good.
worn dock
I saw a video that said that anything that pops up at more than 4km out is rocks and to ignore them. Does that still hold true?
marble crater
@north oyster did you ever test if the upgraded ROC components helped durability?
marble crater
I saw a video that said that anything that pops up at more than 4km out is rocks...
yeah I believe 3-4km is gems, 4km+ is large rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4FQbXeDVdw
north oyster
<@141362761555771393> did you ever test if the upgraded ROC components helped du...
I have them installed but I've not had a chance to do a full multiple cycle of mining and seeing how the components hold up compared to stock. The Free Fly kept crashing me out so I just abandoned the effort until this weekend. I'll try to update once I have some data
One thing also about scanning, if you pick up a ping about 2K and it stays visible as you close in, you are pretty much guaranteed it's gem deposits (about 95% of the time, I did have one or two large ore deposits echo back when most of them vanish)
gray crag
do they nerfed quant % on lyria or I'm having bad luck? found three clusters in very short time and they all have bad quant %
worn dock
yeah I believe 3-4km is gems, 4km+ is large rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
yeah, Banana Peel Face Guy is the one I watched
north oyster
do they nerfed quant % on lyria or I'm having bad luck? found three clusters in ...
As I hear, it's about the same. I'm thinking some redistribution or randomness has been modified. The Halo has been horrid for me since the 3.17 dropped. I'm not fully sure what is going on at the moment.
The dice gods aren't being kind. Finding lots of quan but all below 10%
teal wing
As I hear, it's about the same. I'm thinking some redistribution or randomness h...
Yeah, the distribution curve was weighted towards more frequent quant, but in smaller densities iirc
desert mason
found a cluster of like 5 quantanium rocks but cant mine it all without going boom boom so anyone want to stay here to mark the spot and get some of the money?
prime nimbus
what was the best prospector mining head again ?
north oyster
what was the best prospector mining head again ?
Lancet is meta at the moment
prime nimbus
Lancet is meta at the moment
thx
Stalwart is this gadget worth it ? Resistance: -30%
Optimal Charge Rate: +100%
Shatter Damage: -50%
Instability: +15%
Overcharge Rate: +200%
welp, cannot buy the lancet mining head
north oyster
I only use Surge because I mine the Halo and I don't need extra components. I use the Surge to speed up the break
north oyster
welp, cannot buy the lancet mining head
Yes, at Port Olisar
let me double check though
prime nimbus
let me double check though
plz do
also, can you recomend me a mining gadget in case the rock is impossible to get into the green ?
north oyster
Lancet can be gotten at Tammany&Son in Lorvile or at Shubin in the Commons in New Babbage
prime nimbus
Lancet can be gotten at Tammany&Son in Lorvile or at Shubin in the Commons in Ne...
thx
north oyster
also, can you recomend me a mining gadget in case the rock is impossible to get ...
The art of cracking oversized boulders takes awhile. The Surge and the Stampede are the two main ones used (iirc). The third attachment is always up for debate.
prime nimbus
The art of cracking oversized boulders takes awhile. The Surge and the Stampede ...
there is no mining gadget called surge and stampede those are modules right ?
vivid sorrel
correct
prime nimbus
so, what gadget is recomended? the one that reduce resistance ?
hollow sedge
does argo mole cargo work again ?
vivid sorrel
Eh...it's a bit of a hassle to get out of the ship so i literally have not tried them 😄
prime nimbus
hahaha
vivid sorrel
Probably [tm] counted as multiplier and no addative, but again, not tried them so
prime nimbus
ah
vivid sorrel
I can say modules for example, do not stack their bonuses. So for example lancet -75% instability with 3x -10% instability modules does not mean 0% instabiltty
From reddit, it does seem this would be good for a solo miner doing lyria. Will make you able to do big rocks yourself
"The boremax will let you crack bigger rocks. I’ve cracked a 7600kg quant rock with just a lancet and boremax. Should be able to go bigger but I just haven’t found one yet. You could always use two if you have a really big rock. Lancet, boremax, and stampede would be really good."
north oyster
does argo mole cargo work again ?
I haven't heard of the MOLE getting fixed. Dollar to a doughnut it won't be addressed until 3.17.2 unless they do a hot patch before then.
prime nimbus
mole bugged ?
north oyster
I can say modules for example, do not stack their bonuses. So for example lancet...
the attachments do allow stacking, I saw one YT'er put about 80 on a 5K rock and crack it with a ROC, LOL
vivid sorrel
blinks
Well that's one way to do it 😄
So mining gadgets may stack in some fashion then, but...most people would not use 80, so 😛
prime nimbus
the attachments do allow stacking, I saw one YT'er put about 80 on a 5K rock and...
ay ya, that one, i saw it
vivid sorrel
Actually if each one just works as a multiplier(and not addative), the end number would be so low anyway it could just as well be zero
north oyster
it'll be interesting to watch all this get balanced out, but we are a long ways from there
gaunt fiber
I think they’ll address the Mole issue before the next patch. They do hot fixes all the time and this is a pretty big deal considering they just sold a bunch of Moles at Invictus.
Pure speculation on my part, I have no evidence that I’m right 🙂
north oyster
Pure speculation on my part, I have no evidence that I’m right 🙂
I concur and hope they do that very soon. The mining loop and all those who play because of mining in this game is not a small number by any stretch of the imagination.
vivid sorrel
@prime nimbus did not work well enough for this rock (1x boremax) It did do wonders on the resistance, as with just Lancet active it was 0,19 (base rock had 0,76 res)
Also setting the gadget and fiddelding with the waveform thingies was annoying AF 😛
Basically, too much hassle IMO, but it's a cool idea.
prime nimbus
<@478949604151263233> did not work well enough for this rock (1x boremax) It did...
ya
but you need resistance less and even less resistance xD btw i got something like 9 SCU quantanium
pale verge
What is the best thing to trade if i want to make alot of money? I have a starlifter
deep vector
Most reliable is titanium iirc
hallow bison
whats the current best trade routes?
vivid sorrel
There is none, stock too low. Or atleast it was in freefly week. You can try https://sc-trade.tools/home and see how it works out
north oyster
What is the best thing to trade if i want to make alot of money? I have a starli...
Trade isn't in a great place and the C2 is the best if you want to give it a try. I would suggest first trying Scrap cargo. You can buy at the TDD (not Admin, more expensive there) on Area18 the sell at ARC-L1
sudden oxide
hey guys im doing mining for the first time
whats the icon for Roc minable rocks look like?
north oyster
from there you can try Gold and Titanium from Lyria
north oyster
whats the icon for Roc minable rocks look like?
Are you ROC mining?
sudden oxide
ye
north oyster
Ok, the pings for the deposits only show up when you are within 2k of the deposits. You want Hadinite and you want to mine either on Daymor (ok place) or Aberdeen (best place but most rough atmosphere)
sudden oxide
oki oki
but also like
are these the rocks im looking for or are these the prospector ones?
also is there like a best place on deymar to mine?
long fossil
💎 is the icon for minable ROC deposit
sudden oxide
tyty
north oyster
When you zoon in, the veins will be pinkish for the Hadinite rocks
The Gems do not have to be refined and be sold straight out at any of the outpost on the moon
long fossil
Normal rock icons are for other miner ship like Prospector
sudden oxide
oki tys
long fossil
Welcome
north oyster
oki tys
Trick here is that the large deposits will "vanish" when you get within 2k or so while the gem deposits will show up and continue to ping right up to the point you can see them. (if this makes sense)
Two Tips:
No matter the planet, if you quantum travel to the orbital marker OM-1 and dive down to the surface there, it will ALWAYS be daylight there
For Aberdeen you will have to have the Pembroke armour set
patent fiber
Anyone know if Mole mining is operational again now that invictus week is over?
north oyster
Anyone know if Mole mining is operational again now that invictus week is over?
not at this time. We're thinking a hot fix soon, hopefully.
patent fiber
not at this time. We're thinking a hot fix soon, hopefully.
Thanks!
north oyster
I see the friends list is still busted. Guessing chat in game is a random success
muted egret
So could i use the roc for hauling goods from a bunker? Instead of mining. Looking for a faster way to move alot of stuff at once
north oyster
So could i use the roc for hauling goods from a bunker? Instead of mining. Looki...
No, you would need the Drake MULE for that. The ROC can only move rocks
junior crescent
man... trading is tough nowadays..
north oyster
this patch is a hot mess
muted egret
No, you would need the Drake MULE for that. The ROC can only move rocks
I just bought a roc XD
Guess im buying a mule
Can i sell my roc?lol
north oyster
The ROC is a great money earner. The MULE is only available for real dollars at the moment
junior crescent
mining looks complicated.
north oyster
easy peasie
junior crescent
i tried it once and always accidentally overcharge stuff
north oyster
Power control is the key
junior crescent
how much can u make with roc mining
north oyster
how much can u make with roc mining
in the 200K aUEC range per trip
If you have a ship to carry it, you can search on two different moons. 1. Daymar, which is ok but doesn't require special armour. or 2. Aberdeen which is the best but requires the Pembroke armour
north oyster
you want to mine Hadinite. And it does not need to be refined. You can sell at any outpost on the planet
junior crescent
ive only got a c2 that can carry a vehicle
unless avenger titan can
nvm it cant
north oyster
The Herc would be overkill but she works.
opal yoke
Whats more profitable Roc surface mining or cave-diving
junior crescent
where do i rent an roc
north oyster
plus you're not getting that big girl in a cave
The ROC rents for about 4k at the refinery store
junior crescent
ah
north oyster
if you decide it seems like a decent game loop, then you can buy the ROC for about 174K at New Deal in the Lorville space port
boreal haven
How do you get to the aron halo belt?
north oyster
How do you get to the aron halo belt?
hold a second, I'll share a pdf with the info
here you go. Also, @noble viper can this be considered to be pinned? It is fantastic information about mining the Halo. Thanks!!
Cornerstone has been on the bleeding, leading edge of fantastic info in Star Citizen. Amazing work.
boreal haven
here you go. Also, <@575252669443211264> can this be considered to be pinned? It...
ty
north oyster
Tip you can do a quick profit peek by multiplying your total yield by 88
north oyster
Nomad will not work
north oyster
Too small
vivid sorrel
Nomad will work IIRC, got 32 SCU, but only one full load per trip so painful
prime nimbus
Nomad will work IIRC, got 32 SCU, but only one full load per trip so painful
freelancer has 66 scu
vivid sorrel
Yes, and MAX 120
prime nimbus
what other ship you recomend me to rent for cargo hauling ?
vivid sorrel
oh, rent!
prime nimbus
ay
north oyster
FL will allow two per trip. But stack up a bunch of jobs before renting
vivid sorrel
Freelancer would likely be the best option there
opal yoke
Whats more reliable, Aaron Halo or Lyria for Quantanium?
rose cedar
halo imho
vivid sorrel
RNG
gaunt fiber
Lyria is more IMHO - if you spot two or more rocks together or any new box ~10+km away from a ping, it's QT
10km and farther away are usually two or more rocks
Halo is a challenge for me, because you have to search in three dimensions... rocks could be above, below, left, right, behind, or in front of you... with Lyria you can eliminate two of those directions when you search.
earnest crystal
So for when I get my andro today how do I get started with cargo ?
hollow sedge
anyone want to join me im doing cargo in a caterpillar
teal saffron
Where can I rent a ROC?
junior crescent
Where can I rent a ROC?
I believe at every refineries
teal saffron
k thx
calm hazel
the tools site I check says you can get stampede at lorville, but it's not there as far as I can tell. Any place you can currently actually get it?
spiral obsidian
Mole broken still?
north oyster
the tools site I check says you can get stampede at lorville, but it's not there...
microTech - New Babbage - The Commons - Plaza - Shubin Interstellar
The best locator is finder.cstone.space
north oyster
Mole broken still?
no changes in 3.17.1 ... no friends list, etc and still broke MOLE
vestal seal
Is the audio visual equipment still broken
vestal seal
Lmao they just removed it
north oyster
There were items only for events, like fireworks, construction and AV
vestal seal
Really so was it supposed to be that good
north oyster
trade isn't good no matter how it is sliced atm
AV was only good because of the calculation bug
vestal seal
Okay I thought so
north oyster
Trade in the C2 is ok for scrap, titanium, gold and a few other items like astertine if you can get it
muted egret
What is the difference between the mule and mule ilw?
calm hazel
ty
I'm trying to go from arc l1 to the belt, this video/graphs I've seen make it look like I need to go outwards from here, but there's no good warp place. Any convenient ways to do it?
north oyster
I'm trying to go from arc l1 to the belt, this video/graphs I've seen make it lo...
you have to cancel your Jump. When you get to approx the distance you want, you press and HOLD the B key
Here is all the info you need on how to find it
calm hazel
gotcha, I can do that. Not sure which direction to go thoguh
north oyster
This document covers all the Bands in the Halo and the distances from all the refineries
calm hazel
hmm, ok thanks
ivory mango
Wow that document is amazing
calm hazel
For prospector mining on ground, I think when I have moeny I might want to try out, waveshift + Boremax + 3x Riegers
ivory mango
Is there a safe way to get rid of rocks you don't want?
maiden brook
Who all here has driven the mule a great distance? I spent two hours driving it. Its slow but man it can take a beating! Looking forward to when we can actually use the fork lifts.
daring vale
I have a hold full of fireworks that I need to chuck, and fast.
Is there anywhere that'll buy them for any value?
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<.<
gaunt fiber
anyone up for some prospector or ROC mining?
daring vale
The SC trade tool isn't listing anything, and the wiki doesn't have answers in the matter either.
Apparently Reddit has not a single response on the matter either.
cedar flower
My current pledge fleet
It has all you really need
Hull C likely will see a upgrade to the D down the line
scarlet rover
My current pledge fleet
It has all you really need
Needs more Drake but other than that, I appreciate it
novel granite
anyone know if mole mining works rn
hollow sedge
anyone know if mole mining works rn
wondering the same thing
frail linden
can mining modules be attached to the ROC?
rough bobcat
Not sure that anyone can help me but this is the third time it's happened three times now and I have to abandon the mission. (Bug?). I am doing package deliveries I pick up the package and bring it to the location it wants me to. As soon as I get out of the ship the marker disappears but if I go to the building it was previously marked there's nowhere for me to put the package. Just a useless NPC and a buying/selling console.
Never mind im stupid. Didn't know the Amazon box was an actual thing
chilly stag
Amazon got this idea from SC
stiff current
Where do I sell Slam
gaunt fiber
Here’s a good source: https://uexcorp.space I couldn’t find Slam, but I might have missed it.
wild nacelle
New to big ship trading (Caterpillar). What sort of stock levels can I realistically expect to pick up at Mining Stations? I'm trying to buy Agricium and only seem to ever grab 10 units at a time. Is this normal?
vivid sorrel
Basically stock levels are low everywhere it seems.
pastel musk
first mine trip w a decent rock
feral totem
first mine trip w a decent rock
Nice. Big rock though. Hope you are in a Mole, or you have surge modules!
wild nacelle
Aren't Moles broken? I thought they couldn't scoop
deep vector
what is the best way to get started in cargo ?
Buy a Taurus
earnest crystal
i got an andromeda
vivid sorrel
Buy a Taurus
Don't you mean buy a C2? ^^
wild nacelle
I'm not convinced a C2 is the thing right now. I'm struggling to find enough stock to fill an MSR, let alone a C2
vivid sorrel
That is true from what i hear, but it's not like taking a smaller ship for cargo would make that better 😛
wild nacelle
Well, your runs would feel less wasteful, not to mention you will have spend less on a ship thta ends up achieving the same goal - ie transporting pathetic amounts of cargo!
vivid sorrel
OR you could try a different gameloop since cargo loop isn't really fun when you just get scraps 😛
pastel musk
Nice. Big rock though. Hope you are in a Mole, or you have surge modules!
My friend mined it w me and we had one full prospector and another like 95% full
prime nimbus
vivid sorrel
Nice, but why on HUR L1 if i may ask @prime nimbus ? HUR L1 has bad refinery for Quant
If you're doing Lyria, ARC L1 would be the best since closest, not worth going to CRU L1 for tiny 3% quant. If you work the Halo doing that from CRU L1 works fine
prime nimbus
Nice, but why on HUR L1 if i may ask <@478949604151263233> ? HUR L1 has bad refi...
it only a 8m km trip
vivid sorrel
From where?
prime nimbus
From where?
arx l4 to hur l1
16 actually but the ring is in the middle so its only an 8m km trip
vivid sorrel
I'd suggest CRU L1-> ARC L3 - Total 18,649,640
Dropout 11,855,245 left. Band 5
Dropout 12.417,809 left. Band 4
Dropout 12,116,102 left. Band 3
Or if you wanna swap doing Lyria and Halo and skip the 3% bonus from refinery doing halo, ARC L1 works fine too.
ARC L1-> HURSTON - Total 20,310,796
Dropout 13,476,762 left, Band 5
Dropout 13,668,952 left, Band 6
Dropout 13,910,778 left, Band 7
Dropout 14,186,429 left, Band 8
topaz burrow
for handmining. is it still best to pickup cave mission and mine in it?
topaz burrow
yeah I know. I do that everytime i try fps cave mission
kill the guy and log out lol
vivid sorrel
Yeah i forgot you could do that 😄
rain lava
prime nimbus
carry alwase 1 medpen and 1 oxypen, the medpen is in case you cannot use the arms anymore
deep vector
Don't you mean buy a C2? ^^
Ewwww. I have kinda problem with c2 because the difference between c2 and m2/cat doesn’t make sense in current meta of cargo trading.
marble crater
around 260-270K. great haul!
crimson rapids
this is my second trip
calm hazel
Is there an amount of quantanium a prospector can survive blowing up, or is .00001 enough to kill the ship?
crimson rapids
should i save up for a mole?
calm hazel
lol, was about to fly my loaner arrow to grim hex to buy a VK-00 for prospector. When I saw it wouldn't be able to get there I checked to see if I could swap it out for a more long distance drive and noticed it came with a Bacon which was almost as fast. Slapped that puppy in the prospector and saved myself a trip
Nor not, "No Power"
crimson rapids
bruh i got the default drive in my prospector
im always QTing out at around 13 mins left and havent had an issue
calm hazel
I've been running quant in a group of 4, cutting out some of the QT time twice each trip adds up
hollow sedge
can someone com ewith me when i rent a mining ship
vivid sorrel
Is there an amount of quantanium a prospector can survive blowing up, or is .000...
I haven't gotten blown up enough to say much with certainty, but distance is the main factor, then the amount of overcharge. Then what shield\component you got and\if all power to that. Then just RNG.
calm hazel
I meant in storage
calm hazel
I'll have to try it once I get the prospector quant worthy
Trying to figure out if I can fit a power supply big enough to supply this quantum drive
vivid sorrel
There's no ship that have issue with default power plant in the current game AFAIK, no matter what you slap on it.
Damage to it on the other hand 😛
calm hazel
ah, well that means there's another problem stopping me from going quant lol
vivid sorrel
?
calm hazel
Just says no power
vivid sorrel
Oh did you just swap the quantum drive on your prospetor?
calm hazel
Ya
calm hazel
vivid sorrel
😄
calm hazel
Well you saved me a bunch of credits and a half hour+ journey
cedar flower
Nor not, "No Power"
Restart the entire ship
It needs to "reboot" to accept a new QTDrive
vivid sorrel
What drive you got?
calm hazel
the beacon
vivid sorrel
I would recommend Atlas 95% of the time, or VK-00 if you're purely going halo with it.
calm hazel
TBH even if it was twice as fast I'm not sure I'd be able to tell without timing it
I've almost entirely been doing arcl1 -> lyrica
vivid sorrel
Yeah don't need anything fancy for that really
calm hazel
got the beacon for free with arrow loaner
vivid sorrel
Atlas is the QoL "I can go anywhere", while the mil grades S1's are mostly "I can get there fasterrrrrrr"
calm hazel
Yeah, I got other ships for when I need to go a long way
I'll probably try some halo mining tomorrow
north oyster
what is the best way to get started in cargo ?
Cargo is not in a good place at the moment. It only favors the largest of ships like the Hercules C2 or the Drake CAT.
calm hazel
in other words, if you have a herc c2 or drake cat, should try out some cargo runs?
north oyster
this is my second trip
Glad to see you're getting nice dice rolls, all the Quan I had been seeing (which was a lot) was all under 10% in the Halo. Hope to give it a try this evening again.
crimson rapids
im from crul1 to arc l3 dropping from 11.5 to 12.1
north oyster
in other words, if you have a herc c2 or drake cat, should try out some cargo ru...
Scrap, Titanium, Gold, Astitine, and a few other commondities do well
north oyster
im from crul1 to arc l3 dropping from 11.5 to 12.1
Yeah, that is my normal run. I've been having crap rolls of the dice
@calm hazel Trade only favors huge ships, so all the smaller to midsize carriers don't have much of a purpose at the moment. A scrap run from TDD in Area18 to ARC-L1 will get you a little over 20K for the short run
calm hazel
Yeah, I make sure to stock up on scrap for the return leg of my quant sell voyages
north oyster
that's a good way to avoid an empty run
To me the best run IF you can hit the servers right is Astatine from Woodruff on Ida to CBD on Lorville. That'll get you close to some nice coin for a full C2
calm hazel
I'll have to check it out., By hitting the servers right you mean favorable prices or not too laggy?
north oyster
I'll have to check it out., By hitting the servers right you mean favorable pric...
Inventory ... Both Woodruff and Ryder produce a fair amount, but it seems to sometimes be limited. There is one spot on Lyria (Hombolt or Lovecraft) that use to have unlimited Gold, but I don't know if that is patched.
I never had an issue of landing near the two Lyria outpost but others had it where the terminal would not see the ship.
(they do not have a pad)
calm hazel
I'll have to check it out tomorrow
Thouhg the graphs for the prices on that route looks like the worst it's been in a while
On the uexcorp site, it has SCU column that says like "Average amount traded by users", is that how much I would likely be able to buy/sell if I went there?
vivid sorrel
You can't really trust either trading sites being correct because stock fluctuates with player trading.
The only thing you can trust is where to buy and where to sell
Stock amount and actual pricing though 🤷
calm hazel
So you're just as likely to pull up to a planet, ring the door, and only be able to buy 3 scu at almost no profit?
Or is it generally better than that lol
vivid sorrel
You tell me, heh.
calm hazel
It's too late to actually try lol
vivid sorrel
I gave up trading during freefly, was too annnoying
It should in theory be better now
calm hazel
Certain commodities were only available during the event, right?
vivid sorrel
Fireworks, AV & Construction stuff, yeah
calm hazel
I'd love to put a bunch of those passive gadgets on my prospector, but I crash into things way too much
calm hazel
well, humboldt I can deplete my funds of gold
calm hazel
to be honest, that didn't seem remotely worth it for the time, even with the c2
especially considering I risk my entire cashstack to a bad landing
high wren
so i've been mining on and off a couple patches and as of late been using the lancet with the brandt module and a bormax gadget to break the bigger rocks. just watched a vid thats dated may 18 and the author (down to earth astronomy) uses the impact laser with two focus III modules and a brandt. anyone else using what he is suggesting? i've been successful enough with the lancet and brandt but maybe i can hit bigger rocks with his mining load out. this is for prospector ( i currently am not using my mole due to bugs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elCZURyECrQ vid here incase others are interested
flint trench
while extracting, the ship didn't explode but lost all power, is there a way to start it again? Asking for a friend 😉
north oyster
@high wren I was thinking of toying with this concept using the Helix. CIG nuked the hell out of Helix but I was wondering if those specs can be regained with active or passive modules. The 40% delayed response would be the only challenge
north oyster
while extracting, the ship didn't explode but lost all power, is there a way to ...
Did you do a power cycle? u and i to both shutdown and also turn off engines. The hit R to return to ready mode. the letter " i " (eye) turns your engines off and on
flint trench
I tried U and I, I tried going in and out but I didn't know about R, ill try next time
i couldnt do anything so i went out and enjoyed the view of the sship exploding
😄
north oyster
You should've been able to do an eject cargo for the Quan (if that what you were mining). There could've been a component failure but normally that isn't an issue if you repair every time you land
flint trench
how can I eject cargo? I was on a planet, I could turn the engine on but there was no power and I couldn't take off.
It was my first time mining
pale crane
I had that happen to me too after a rock exploded to my face.
Ship didn't explode but went drifting out of power, no way to get it running again.
I had to ask for a rescue. Which is nicer than straight out exploding 👍
desert mason
just bought a prospector, what should i fit it with?
north oyster
just bought a prospector, what should i fit it with?
Lancet MH1 (size 1). The terminals in the Refinery stores are hosed. Let me check what other places have it
north oyster
just bought a prospector, what should i fit it with?
You can get the Lancet at Port Olisar Dumpers, NB Shubin or Tammany&Sons in Lorvile
vivid sorrel
!itemfinder
wary tuskBOT
tired sapphire
Is trading safe right now? (will it glitch the money?)
glacial dagger
Is trading safe right now? (will it glitch the money?)
Trading it'self is pretty good rn, it's just the stability of the servers themselves
tired sapphire
alright ty
cerulean quartz
on the graycat mining mode how do i increese the brigtness of the optmal fractor - its 2 dark to see
north oyster
on the graycat mining mode how do i increese the brigtness of the optmal fractor...
are you talking about the hud display in mining mode not being visible?
I've not seen that, it was an issue on a previous patch
sacred hinge
How does it work mining with a scout ship
Like 1 person in a miner and the other in a random ship or does he need to have a special ship as wel
vivid sorrel
No, other person needs to just use scan mode (v) on his ship
Technically he doesn't even need that, just ping and ping angle adjusts, assuming it's planet
tender bridge
found 7.3k 29.8% and 5.4k 29% quant rocks is anyone wants them (with pay tho)
im poor lmao
vivid sorrel
Oh joy...Crash when coming out of Quantum with a load of Quant...gonna be fun seeing if i end back in ship, and if so timer 😛
Ah, entire 8 minutes, so fiiine 🙂
gaunt fiber
I’ve had pretty good luck with crashes while hauling QT back to the refinery
If you get close enough, it can actually be an advantage
fallen atlas
I crashed while landing last night and came back in and it counted as a successful dock 😂
vivid sorrel
IIRC, once you actually hail the station to land, your ship is actually counted as docked, tough...i wouldn't bet my life on it 😄
boreal haven
Which mining modules should I use on a Prospector mining Quant? I've looked at the two pinned guides in this channel, but they both recommend different modules.
wintry ruin
Anyone know why/how to fix the ore TRADING console not registering the prospector on the pad? The REFINING one clocks it just fine.
spice pendant
Roc vs roc DS? Differences?
verbal cargo
Roc vs roc DS? Differences?
DS has the mining seat outside and has more cargo space
thorn cape
If I buy the ROC to try mining, does it fill up cargo space so I hold less? And does it get destroyed permanent if it blows up?
verbal cargo
If I buy the ROC to try mining, does it fill up cargo space so I hold less? And ...
It will fill up cargo space, you can claim the ROC at an outpost if your ship blows up with it on it, but you will lose whatever gems you have in it
odd flint
Anyone have good reference for how many SCU to transport various ship components?
thorn cape
It will fill up cargo space, you can claim the ROC at an outpost if your ship bl...
So I'm guessing u just fill the ROC storage and the remaining ship storage with minerals and sell that way?
verbal cargo
So I'm guessing u just fill the ROC storage and the remaining ship storage with ...
Yes you can sell from the ROC storage directly or from the ship if you move them from the ROC to the ship
thorn cape
Awesome! Can't wait to try after work. How much is the ROC in game money?
verbal cargo
about 172k
rugged axle
@wintry ruin store the prospector everytime. Theres a bug that if you don't store it, it may delete your cargo
Land, store, go to refinery. Retrieve, go back out. Rinse and repeat
sonic flax
anyone got a good build for the prospector? I pledged it and i'm trying to upgrade it to its best
topaz burrow
Can I breathe in a cave on Aberdeen? Need to drink but dunno
boreal haven
You can take helmets off for a split second to see 😛
gaunt fiber
you cannot take your helmet off on any of the moons
vivid sorrel
One way or another, you'll end up with max hydration 😛
pastel musk
anyone got a good build for the prospector? I pledged it and i'm trying to upgra...
Lancet mining laser MH-1, Brandt, surge, stampede modules
That’s what I keep seeing online for quant mining but I keep losing my modules so I’ve been mining naked lately
vivid sorrel
Modules are cheap though like 1.5k a pop for 5 uses
flint trench
hi, I'm trying to mine an asteroid, I'm next to it but I cannot mine it and the scanner doesn't scan it
flint trench
oh ok, thanks
vivid sorrel
If this is in space, some are bugged sadly, if you don't get a scan back on type just ignore it.
If you use certain scanning methods you can basically always detect them from 12km'ish distance if they're bugged or not
flint trench
i'm using the 360 scanner then 2 to pinpoint the rock but i feel like this is not very useful in space
how can you tell if they are bugged?
vivid sorrel
When you are in mining mode, the ping you send out will detect the type of the asteroid (Q,P,E etcetra) - if you DON'T get this back and rock is within 12km with 2 degree angle, it's bugged
flint trench
ok thank you i will try
flint trench
thanks 😄
vivid sorrel
Nope
wintry ruin
<@264830665399336960> store the prospector everytime. Theres a bug that if you ...
It's not that it was lost. I re-logged just fine but the same thing presented. I couldn't sell it directly at the station so I just set it refining. Was hopping to make enough to upgrade the lazor before going out for quant but I guess I'm doing this the hard way xd
vivid sorrel
Is the mole fixed yet??
Or well, yes, in their internal patches, but in live, no.
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-38161
"Mole cannot extract resources"
Likely (speculation) coming when they push out 3.17.2
humble stump
Which passive utility modules are best with the Helix I?
vivid sorrel
I haven't used that one myself...logically what you'd use would either complement it's weaknesses, or just make it crack faster.
humble stump
so higher laser power which also increases instability? It does have -30% isntability
vivid sorrel
-30% is low if quant mining
humble stump
well I do have sabir too.
vivid sorrel
humble stump
I was going to use helix+boremax+sabir.
vivid sorrel
Yeah that might work. I just personally don't like the gadgets, as i have to go out and place gadgets and fiddle with the settings and then go back in and THEN i can mine.
humble stump
also how do I find out where to buy the utlity modules? erkul doesnt have it
vivid sorrel
!itemfinder
wary tuskBOT
humble stump
I guess 1 reiger3 and 1 vaux3 would be good, then the 1 brandt for active.
+6% resist, +6% optimal charge window, -6% instability on those 2 passives together. Resist doesn't seem like it's a big deal with boremax avail and helix being powerful...
vivid sorrel
Yeah, the biggest question would be what are you mining, where are you mining, and what kind of rocks will you want to crack.
If all you do is Aron Halo Quant asteroid mining, then you can do naked Lancet basically. If you do Lyria Quant with a Lancet you need to give up alot of rocks because anything approaching 6k mass will not crack...unless you finagle it with modules, but still tricky AF.
Again with your Helix i don't have any personal experience.
humble stump
mhm I don't want to have to pass up on a high % rock cause it's big
flint trench
welp im terrible at mining :x
im struggling to mine parts after i break the big rock
vivid sorrel
What are you mining with (laser\modules), and what ore are you mining?
sonic flax
Where should I mine quantanium? I'm looking on Daymar but not finding anything good
flint trench
What are you mining with (laser\modules), and what ore are you mining?
I'm using the impact 1 but it's too unstable for me, i saw some recommendations for the lancet 1 so i will try that
jaunty laurel
I tried buying a lancet 1 (and a surge module) yesterday in Lorville and set the destination as my prospector, but it doesn't show up in the vehicle load out manager. Someone in game said I'd need to transfer it out of the prospector inventory to be able to equip it.... How do I do that? I haven't seen them anywhere after buying
flint trench
do you see them when you press "I" when you are in the ship ?
jaunty laurel
Oh does that access the ship's inventory?
vivid sorrel
I tried buying a lancet 1 (and a surge module) yesterday in Lorville and set the...
No, you just buy it or transfer it to local, then you use vehicle loadout manager to equip it
Ship needs to be stored at the location the equipment is at (in local storage)
flint trench
Oh does that access the ship's inventory?
yes, then you can move them to the local inventory
jaunty laurel
Thanks, I'll give it a shot
humble stump
Where do I sell after I mine from Lyria?
thin escarp
@humble stump I have some loadouts pinned in this channel in my pdf
@humble stump you go refine at arc l1
humble stump
I had a ship crack in optimal range, only the tiniest bit of red, and it still knocked out my ship? o_O
😐
I don't get it I had it less than 5% red. Opened it in the green. And it blows up and disables me like that from 40m away.
vivid sorrel
Quant atleast, does an small explosion if you have any red when it cracks
The more red, the more energetic i think?
Things you can do to mitigate when that happens is be further away. Buuut shit happens, so Palisade shield (larger physical % reduction) and mil grade equipment (components have more hp) should help. In theory at least. You'll feel better anyways 😛
viral lark
Can you sell clothing anywhere?
vivid sorrel
Casaba? i think the stores are called that selbuy regular clothing
humble stump
Things you can do to mitigate when that happens is be further away. Buuut shit h...
Oh and overcharge shields to the front? But uh what's the s1 palisade called?
oh nvm i see it
vivid sorrel
Yeah max power to shield should in theory give more resists too
I say in theory a lot, because stats are kinda just there on Erkul. And people say since they are there they work like that. But it's kinda hard to test exploding rocks and flying fragments 😛
humble stump
Can someone scan rocks while using a scouting fighter? Like with mining tool or idk, to see the % quant?
humble stump
Yeah max power to shield should in theory give more resists too
I mean num8. You can put more shield to the front instead of universal. But yes max shield power too
vivid sorrel
Yeah i tend to forget shield facings, heh.
humble stump
Hopefully I can crack a rock before upgrading shields. That's been my problem