industrial-professions

[toxic citrus]

Figured you'd ask that

[digital mesa]

Thank you!

IF i dont have a mining ship yet, could i still buy the modules?

and store it somewhere?

[toxic citrus]

Yep

You can

[hollow sedge]

Ahh youtube says this sometimes happends

[digital mesa]

ok

Do you need to go to your personal cell where you wake up

[toxic citrus]

??

In what context

[digital mesa]

To store the items you buy

[toxic citrus]

No

You don't

You can access station inv anywhere in its vicinity

[digital mesa]

oh i see ty

[silver sorrel]

i bought some stuff at shady glen's

said "transaction error"

took money, no goods

what do ?

[rugged axle]

mine some more quant

and file a report on the issue council

[vivid sorrel]

Shady confirmed 😛
But seriously, it's something that can happen in this patch. I don't know if it's servers dying because of freeflight, their backend or what.

[silver sorrel]

sadface

[vivid sorrel]

yeah. TLDR: Especially this patch, to play the game you need to have robust "bugs everywhere it's fine" or you will go insane and ragequit 😄

[digital mesa]

@toxic citrus I managed to travel to port olisar

[toxic citrus]

Mhm, and?

[digital mesa]

Do you maybe know what modules do i need to be able to mine quantanium

lancet laser

thats one probb

[toxic citrus]

surges

[vivid sorrel]

Technically you need nothing but lancet. Then..it depends on your preference.

[digital mesa]

are surges one time use?

[vivid sorrel]

consumable, 5 charges

Surge and stampede is popular

3x passives can also be used, but, if you claim or lose your ship modules go poof, so eh.

[digital mesa]

Oh i see

so how many surges do you recommend

is stampede a consumable?

[vivid sorrel]

Yes

[digital mesa]

I see

do you think if i do 5x each

that would be enough?

[vivid sorrel]

You should look up a youtube vid on mining if you're very new to it.
This is good, but long 😉

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExMVXVWHiAQ&list=PLMd2J1iNJCMeRTQ6z3IryoICCKVwVCEdz

[digital mesa]

thank you man, will do

[vivid sorrel]

You can only equip 3x modules at once, rest you should put at station you're gonna fly ouyt from

[digital mesa]

Great, and so do you need to go to a mechanic to equip the modules or just inside ship?

[vivid sorrel]

Store the ship and then use vehicle loadout manager to equip

[digital mesa]

Thanks for the info

[ashen quail]

is there any way to see if my ship has any cargo loaded?
besides going to a trading terminal and checking there

[digital mesa]

Ok so the only thing that i couldnt buy at the port olisar is the stampede module

Wonder if i could find it somewhere else

[gaunt fiber]

@ashen quail not really, cargo will not always show up in the ship storage, so the terminal is the only reliable way to see what you have stored.

[ashen quail]

ah rip

[gaunt fiber]

@digital mesa what module are you looking for?

You can find a lot of them at ARC L1

[ashen quail]

cos i had all my funds in my c2 as fireworks but then server 30k and now its gone

[gaunt fiber]

@ashen quail do not claim your ship

wait 10 mins

the server will reset and your cargo should be in your ship

[ashen quail]

wwell i crashed again and now my ship is floating somehwere in space

so ill have to claim

well i already did

[digital mesa]

I was there but the screen for the shop didnt work so i was suggested to go to port olisar where i bought lancet laser and surges, now I only need to buy stampade module but they dont have it

[gaunt fiber]

What ship are you loading out? Prospector or Mole?

[digital mesa]

Prospector

[gaunt fiber]

they take different size laser heads

make sure you bought the size 1 for the prospector

[digital mesa]

Oh yeah i did

[gaunt fiber]

okay cool

[digital mesa]

theres two types right

now i only need stampade

[gaunt fiber]

two sizes, but essentially the same laser - the Mole is just a bigger size

This site might help find what you're looking for: https://finder.cstone.space

[digital mesa]

thank you

I feel like if i go somewhere else the screens wont work for refinary

[gaunt fiber]

you bet, that's a handy site to have bookmarked so you don't have to fly around everywhere in the verse

could be the case

if you have your ship stored and everything, you might try a logout

[digital mesa]

Will try that now ty

if i have the ship stored then how can i equip the modules?

I dont think port olisar has a hanger

[gaunt fiber]

you can use the ship loadout on your mobie glass

ship has to be stored in the same location as you

you'll be able to select your Prospector and outfit your laser and modules

the laser and modules must be in local storage

[digital mesa]

Oh i see because i didnt have space and stored it inside prospector storage

i think ill need a bigger backpack to be able to carry a laser

[gaunt fiber]

you can land your prospector and put it in/out of local storage while you're in the ship and on the landing pad

press I to move any item

[digital mesa]

thank you

[gaunt fiber]

you bet, anytime

have fun mining!

[digital mesa]

until i crash

[gaunt fiber]

haha speed kills

[digital mesa]

I also want to be imprisoned once

want to try the escape thing

[hollow sedge]

mining timeee

[opal yoke]

So, not having played since 3.15
Is trading viable yet? And if so what would you suggest running with a Herc?

[feral totem]

Take a mercenary mission and shoot a guard

[digital mesa]

Will deff try that haha

anyone knows how to access ship storage once inside?

[feral totem]

Inside… where

[digital mesa]

when you stand inside ship

oh its i

[feral totem]

Press I for Inventory to access the ship inventory?

[digital mesa]

Yes ty

[feral totem]

So I just tried my first quantanium mining session on Lyria. 9/10 of the quantanium deposits I find are 2-5%? Is this normal?

[vivid sorrel]

Eh...I've not mined that much, but it seems mainly RNG and terrain related

You cann drop out and first rock is 40% 5000 mass. And you can find a pack of 8 and get 2-4%

[pale verge]

yes. Most if them are low %. You need to search for a while to find a good tock.

[digital mesa]

under 20% aint worth it righjt

[pale verge]

yeah

[digital mesa]

for what is a power plant used for?

[snow onyx]

I just popped off my ship while it was in quantum and died! Is it possible to find the ship again or did I just lose all my cargo?

[feral totem]

I managed to relogin into space in my ship after a 30k yesterday. Retained all my cargo.

[snow onyx]

I wish I had thought of that!

[feral totem]

Wait, as in you jumped off the ship?

Or did the game crash

[snow onyx]

The Hercules elevator glitched me out

I just wanted to see all my boxes!

[ornate locust]

yeah you are fucked

unless you can get someone to take you to your ship

[snow onyx]

How do you find the ship?

[tulip roost]

Any guides on mining ship equipment? Specifically attachments

[north kite]

laser head: lancet i guess

if you're in a prospector I would highly reccomend learning the helix to not be limited to rocks under like 6k mass

as for attatchments, keep in mind refinery deck terminals for their shops do not work so you are really limited to what you can pick up from dumpster depos

The surge module is a must, and you can find it in the dumpter depo in port olisar

for the other two, i guess it's just preference

[north kite]

(the helix has 3 attachments vs the default laser having just 1)

[tulip roost]

So what's the real difference between Lancet and Helix? I can see the stats and Lancet is great apart from the power

So I'm guessing it just makes the rocks super easy as long as you got power for them?

[stone tinsel]

Anybody have any tips for a broke new player looking to do trade runs? Looking for the best time/effort/money. I’ve scraped out about 60k running fireworks but it just seems like such a slog

I’ve been looking uexcorp website to see if anything sticks out at me, but still learning all the routes so not sure what’s best

[tulip roost]

Anyone got the picture of Aaron Halo?

[gaunt fiber]

@tulip roost lancet sacrifices power for stability. If you’re mining QT it’s nearly impossible to break a QT rock without some added stability either from the laser (lancet) or from a module.

A Helix will give you all the power you need but you’ll need something to help stabilize the rock or it will jump in and out of the green into the red constantly.

I use a lancet, with a surge, stampede and a Brandt module on my prospector.

Surge and stampede on the first break, and the Brandt gets used on the second break.

Second breaks are much more unstable, so the helix laser only really helps on the first break in conditions where the rock is 5k+

But you can fill up a prospector on the smaller rocks if they have 30-40% QT

[rugged axle]

30% 5k mass rock is a full load for a prospector in the halo

[vivid sorrel]

You mean how to get there? Or actual picture of rocks and stuff? Both here anycase 😄
https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[tulip roost]

Thanks

[digital kestrel]

Has the AV trade thing been nerfed?

[granite arch]

yes

[digital kestrel]

Dang

[feral totem]

I spent 1 hour on Lyria and never found any quant above 20%

At this rate ROC mining on Daymar yields more aUEC

[vestal ravine]

Try the Trade Tools website for trade information.

[woven moss]

I've made 3 20-32scu loads in one 1.5 hour session in the asteroid belt you just need to know what to look for and how to find it.

I generally only look for groups of rocks of 2 or 5,6,7. I just zip by every single rock grouping, because 80% of the time they will not be Q-type

If you find a 2 rock grouping you're almost guaranteed Q-type rocks (percentages vary obviously)

Now, if you find a 2 rock grouping and both at 2% rocks or something, I tend to just look around that grouping at other POI'S nearby, because most of the time Q-type rocks are close to other Q-type rocks I've found...within 11km

[north kite]

Aaron belt supremacy!

[north kite]

Facts, but i also find a lot of 40% quan rocks in single grouping

But they are not quan rocks like 90% of the time though

And the group rocks are

[north kite]

I didnt know this, thats interesting

Ty

I think it is more of a placebo, but anything to ease the pain of not finding a good quan rock for like 10 mins

[jade isle]

Anyone in here know what the update interval is on SLAM? I need to get rid of it eventually and so far I've waited for over an hours and a half with nothing

[dapper spindle]

i got charged twice for 800k worth of fireworks

ouch

[vivid sorrel]

Didn't get any bang for your bucks....I'll let myself out now 😛

[dapper spindle]

no instead im 1.6mil out of pocket

hopefully i can at least make it to orison wothout exploding

[vivid sorrel]

Do they accept stuff again there?

I lost track of what\how they fixed the bug with the AV\construction eq

[digital mesa]

does anybody knows how to disable turret mode on the ship because i cant move

[jovial pasture]

what are the best modules to get for mole mining?

[vivid sorrel]

Go out of turret with Y?

[digital mesa]

Tried but it doesnt, maybe im bugged

[snow onyx]

Running fireworks in a C2 and the boxes don't show up. I really miss being able to see the boxes, it adds so much to be able to see them

[jovial pasture]

if i add two passive modules will they stack?

[woven moss]

Yes it's possible..I've mined them too in single groupings.

Most times when I pass over single rocks I'll fly close enough to them on my way to another POI to see if it's Q-type and if it is I'll stop to view it especially if the mass number is 5122 or 4931 because those numbers are usually high % mass numbers

[tulip roost]

Is RAFT good at transporting refined Quant? I'm not sure how the whole container shtick works

Does it load the small crates like any other ship?

[north kite]

Rent a cutlass or buy a c2 herc

[tulip roost]

I have a Cutty

But it's only got 46 SCU cargo, that's not even two Prospector loads

RAFT got 96 SCU and I love how it looks, I'm just wondering if it carries cargo like any other ship

[cerulean lichen]

I like the raft because I’m never hauling more than 60 quant at a time. It all comes down to how much you move.

It’s all down to taste really. Just make sure whatever you have has the space you need

Also my prospector is like a turtle. With the high winds on calliope, it flips onto its back if I’m not careful 😅

[north kite]

I love the aaron belt

[hollow sedge]

its works ?

[wild barn]

not sure it's updated

they hotfixed prices, it might not be as profitable now*

[spice pendant]

Flew across the galaxy to pick up my first ever cargo(test run in my titan before upgrading), picked up the goods for 70k, when to take off, and boosted straight in to what I can only assume was the ground after getting turned around.

Spawn back at microtech.

[vivid sorrel]

Yes, i've done the same thing, suddenly saw the degree angle in the hud was like -70, had time to go...fuuuuuu boom

[tulip roost]

Sudden switches of heading happen a lot recently

[vivid sorrel]

Flying in the dark was painful, until i learned of the mighty ping! Atleast then you can see shapes'ish, and what's up and down from the planet 😄

[tulip roost]

Seems like a server issue, because none of the ships I flew that got it have near the maneuverability to do that

Scan is poor man's night vision

And we're all poor

[vivid sorrel]

Mk1 eyeballs are lowtech

[hollow sedge]

so orison dont buy fireworks

[tulip roost]

As far as I know, stations above cities should

You know, where invictus fleet goes around

[hollow sedge]

i know

but..

im confused

[serene quest]

what do you do when your ship shows up as grey when you're trying to buy cargo?

[hollow sedge]

im trying to sell it to orison

[serene quest]

AV still selling for 500?

[sterile skiff]

No it was patched last night

[serene quest]

RIP I knew I should have done one more run

takin away all the fun

Construction supplies the way to go now then?

or are those sell prices out dated?

[hollow sedge]

so if its out of date

best trade route is ?

[solemn lance]

I have yet to make money trading. are there any actual good routes? not broken good like AV and con materials, but still worthwhile?

[granite ginkgo]

trading sucks ass

[solemn lance]

lol, ok, was not sure if I was missing something

[hollow sedge]

mining too i cant collect any ores, i have always empty cargo

[sterile skiff]

are you using the mole to mine if so theres a bug for that but the prospector is working

[real axle]

Laranite and Titanium runs are decent enough with a C2

[chilly stag]

I did three successfull Quantanium Runs today

[solemn lance]

M2 good enough? that is what I have currently

[real axle]

Buy at Arial: HDMS-Bezdek/HDMS-Lathan

Sell at: Central Business District, Lorville

[solemn lance]

so I was mining in the mole, had no quant show up in cargo, but when I went to refinery, it was all there

[granite ginkgo]

what is an average you you make from mining one run in a prospector

[chilly stag]

250k

[real axle]

Top up with whatever Laranite is available then use Titanium as filler

[chilly stag]

With refining ofc

[solemn lance]

thank you

[granite ginkgo]

with quatium
and

[real axle]

Yeah M2 has slightly less cargo as a C2 but its more than enough to make it worth it

[chilly stag]

Yes

[granite ginkgo]

do you just mine on rock or multipal

[solemn lance]

cool, thanks

[sterile skiff]

where can you buy the c2 at

[chilly stag]

Looking for 1rock that gives around 30scu quant

[serene quest]

yeah Idk about cargo, the differences are far too small for anyone to make a decent living selling in low amounts.

[real axle]

Crusader Showroom at Orison

Or Astro Armada, Area 18

[granite ginkgo]

dude this game is really fun but it sucks that you have to grind so much to do the basics

[chilly stag]

Once you got a Prospector and know where to go, money is easy

Takes me about 30min for 1 quant run

[solemn lance]

I like the mole more, I have done 85scu of quant in one run before

[granite ginkgo]

yeah but what then after that it doesn't feel like you can upgrade as a solo player

[solemn lance]

I solo the mole

[granite ginkgo]

damn

[sterile skiff]

is your moles cargo working mine still shoes 0/0scu

[chilly stag]

What you mean by upgrade

[granite ginkgo]

a better way to earn while mining

[real axle]

It’s broken until next hotfix

It’s been addressed already by CIG, the patch just needs to be released. Most likely theyre holding off until Invictus is over

[chilly stag]

I am completely fine with making 500k per hour

[solemn lance]

have not tried recently, but with 3.17 mole showed it was empty, but it showed up at the refinery still

[sterile skiff]

any word on when thats coming (end of Invictus maybe?)

[solemn lance]

they released the money hotfix already, so I would think they would do the mining one as well

[granite ginkgo]

nice

[real axle]

The money hotfix wasn’t a patch but a math calculation from their database

no patch was needed

[solemn lance]

how was that making money vanish?

[real axle]

Ah my bad I thought you were talking about the AV money bug everyone was doing

[solemn lance]

ah, ok

was talking about this one, https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/auec-retention-hotfix-incoming/5112619

[granite ginkgo]

requested the refund i will play again in the long future when this game is not in fricking alpha for the last ten years

also this game fun but it kinda sucks ass

bye

[serene quest]

oh ye of little patience

[hollow sedge]

so thats why i lost 2mln auec ?

4.2mln before relog - now 2.2mln after relog

[fringe dock]

Heyo people

[solemn lance]

I sent 4mil to someone, and they did not get it, so 4mil gone

I still love this game, and looking forward to 3.18 when I can access it on PTU. I am concierge and sub, not sure what wave that is

[narrow garnet]

yea, our org tried to group all our funds into a single acc for an 890... the buddy did not get the 20mil

[solemn lance]

ouch

[narrow garnet]

good thing we made the money back

couple days ago you can sell fireworks

and a single c2 can net 1mil profit every 17mins

the org got 2 890j now XD

[hollow sedge]

sadly it dont work anymore

[narrow garnet]

yea

i was hoping it will last a bit longer

i lost 4mil cuz my ad4b and ad5b disappearing

[solemn lance]

yeah, I was not able to make use of any of the trading things. I tried cons mat. but when I sold it, it was at the same price I bought it at

[narrow garnet]

and centermass in area 18 is broken

ohhh, then i think they patched when you did it

[solemn lance]

this was yesterday that it happened, not sure when they fixed it. think I waws in the middle of the run when they did

[stable dust]

Advice on a good cargo starting setup? Only have the Titan starter and only have 500k right now, what's the one to save for?

[solemn lance]

seems cargo running is not a good way to make money still

[tawny willow]

can still make 418k every 15 min

id say that still good

[native granite]

What r u hauling

[solemn lance]

I have not seen something like that

[teal saffron]

Does anyone know where I can rent a cargo ship?

[solemn lance]

here is all ship rentals, will give all locations, https://finder.cstone.space/ShipRentals

[hearty dome]

there is a way to solve the black screen on refinary shops?

i want to buy a mining laser, and this bug wont lent me, i tryed with arc l1, and hur l5

[feral totem]

Scanning technique is the same? 360 scan, 2deg investigate to find groups?

[blazing cedar]

No, you need to go to a planet-side shop and get your stuff off the shelves

Use the !itemfinder

[wary tusk]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.

[teal saffron]

Thx

[solemn lance]

np

[tight latch]

is there a release date on the catiplliar ship

[blazing cedar]

Caterpillar is already out and has been forever

*not literally forever, but a long time

[tight latch]

you can't buy in pledge or is it only avalibe in game

[blazing cedar]

Not all ships are available as pledges all the time

Sometimes a ship will go live again for an event

[tight latch]

how am i supposed tio get 4.5 million in game

[blazing cedar]

By earning it

Or being given it

[tight latch]

true

[blazing cedar]

People do it all the time, you could too

[solemn lance]

mining is my go to

when the mole is not broken at least

[thorny plaza]

is there a limit to how many vehicles you can have spawned at once? I tried to spawn 3 ground vehicles to put in my MSR, and as soon as I spawned the third ground vehicle the MSR despawned

did it twice, same result both times

[solemn lance]

yes, the limit is 3 total

I am hoping they change that with persistant and server meshing

[thorny plaza]

aha lol. Ok thought I was going mad

[queen gorge]

is the mercury star runner worth it? I have a prospector and a drake. I do not like space combat or combat in general imo. But I haven't enjoyed mining either. I've just been using my cutlass black to haul. Thinking of melting both to get the mercury

[strange delta]

pls fix my mole ty cig

[solemn lance]

Yes! I have a couple ships I want to buy, but have not been able to mine to get the money for it

[strange delta]

@cig pls mole patch rn

get this man his ship

snap snap

[solemn lance]

I kind of like it. it has a shielded area that would let you trade illegal items, though I have never tried it

and the hidden area is just cool. I have one, but I bought it in game

[thorny plaza]

how do you make sure the illegal cargo goes in the shielded area?

[solemn lance]

I started with the cutlass black as well, but I upgraded it to the legionnaire recently

[solemn lance]

well, if it is hand carried you can just place it there, I think you can do that with the drugs, like from JT

the shielded area is not part of the normal cargo space

[thorny plaza]

ah I thought buying illegal cargo was done through terminals like the regular cargo

[solemn lance]

as I said though, I have not tried it yet

[thorny plaza]

yes it is - I maxed out my 114 SCU in it earlier today and it put boxes in the secret area too

[solemn lance]

well, in 3.18 we can buy it at a terminal, and still carry it to the shielded place 🙂

huh, ok, I did not know that, I have never used it for hauling cargo, just vehicles

I can not wait to test 3.18 on PTU

[thorny plaza]

I got my ROC and Cyclone in there

but sadly can't also spawn in my hoverquad cos there's a limit of 3 vehicles 😦

[solemn lance]

yeah, I learned it the hard way too. I landed my herc at a ground station, summoned my nova tank, ballista, and cyclone to play around for a bit since I had just gotten them, finally decide to put them on the herc, only to realize it was gone. I was stranded on the moon

[thorny plaza]

oof

yeah I spawned one, put it in, spawned another, put it in, ran back and spawned the third... got outside

MSR gone

aaaaaaand the other two inside it also gone lol

[solemn lance]

lol, oops

get stranded then I take it?

[thorny plaza]

well first time was with a couple of friends, one of whom was hovering overhead in a stalker

[solemn lance]

ah, cool

actually do not know the stalker

[thorny plaza]

so I tried to put the hoverquad in his Titan* sorry, and it wouldn't fit - and got crimestat for trying lol

[solemn lance]

lol, he pressed charges when you damaged his ship with it?

[thorny plaza]

ah, didn't know that was required. The guy was on his second ever session, and the stat appeared instantly when I kinda scuffed the ship with the quad. If he did I don't think he knew about it, didn't mention anything about it. He might just not have noticed, a lot going on for a newbie

so they took me off and we experimented with crimestat ,bounty hunting and medical stuff. Had a naked fist-fight under the headlights of a Titan. Realised that wasn't gonna kill me. So they got some pistols out and started popping limbs. Finally died, woke up in GH and still had my crimstat... so we decided to show the newbie the Invictus fleet by way of me flying around it until the S10 turret on the Bengal creamed me

[solemn lance]

oh, sometimes the game just auto presses charges as well

[thorny plaza]

Second time, yeah my mates had logged off by now so I was stranded. Suicide, claim ship, log off for the night ^^

[solemn lance]

lol, been there before

I have my carrack set up as a mobile base right now, but of course it looks like my main org is away for the long weekend (small org)

I have it outfitted with pisces, ursa, bunch of P6, FS9, grenade launchers, rail guns, and missile launchers. and like 5 full sets of artimex armor 🙂 and 2 large crates to aid looting

even have a small crate in the mess hall with food in it

[thorny plaza]

how do you keep the crates around? They disappear for me when I log off

also, damn, that's a lot of good shit to lose if you lose the ship to a bug/crash etc.

any advice on where to get grenade and missile launchers? I've done loads of bunkers but never find anything but snipers and rail guns

[solemn lance]

It has been set up for a week now, and normally the boxes have been fine

[solemn lance]

so, right before 3.17 I spent about a mil on guns and armor, buying things that I knew were not going to be available

[thorny plaza]

oh lol

[solemn lance]

I have gotten the best loot from derelicts though. I do not even do the mission, I just fly to them. I got a copperhead grenade launcher from one of them

[thorny plaza]

I've done a couple and got nada but the small blue boxes with food

will try a few more I guess

[ivory mango]

Do you lose the drill head when your prospector gets wrecked? Or just the modules?

[strange delta]

the modules

[ivory mango]

Thank you!

[solemn lance]

it can be hit and miss. recently did a bunch and got that grenade launcher, star car helmet, a few nerf guns, and one of the parasite helmets, and a bunch of other rare/sub items

and now I think I want to go in game and scout out some derelicts 🙂

[thorny plaza]

happy hunting

[feral totem]

Hi guys, so I went to Aaron’s Halo but finding quantanium is even more of a beetch than on Lyria! Doubles are no longer guaranteed to be quant! Any tips would be much appreciated!!

Edit: I was in Belt 5

[solemn lance]

thanks, I tend to do it with others just because the flight out can get boring (since you can not quantum to them) plus as backup if I get stuck somewhere 🙂

[tame geyser]

Do anybody knows if the drugs from "Destroy Illegal Drugs" Job can be sold?

[solemn lance]

I heard they could, but i have not tried

[lunar gull]

how does someone do hand mining i'm new

like what equipment should i get and where should i go

[uncut shard]

Multitool and Mining bit for it. At refineries or cargo centers.

Or do a bunker mission and kill the 9tails then possibly get them for free

In loot boxes*

[crimson maple]

Hi I am new to this game and want to play some cargo. Is there some beginner guide for trading? It seems there are far less guides for trading than for mining.

[lethal kayak]

I would suggest doing easier free missions before trading, it costs alot to get into and you can loose everything with 1 mistake

[north kite]

Instead of trading, mine

Entry level trading costs more to be worthwhile, and mining is just better anyways

Plus you arent at risk at losing money due to some random glitch

Like your c2 just spontaneously combusting

[lethal kayak]

I think I just accidently have 17 million credits

[blissful meteor]

Heya, anyone know why a roc couldn't mine ores at all?

Like the laser works, but it can't heat rocks

[cinder osprey]

There used to be bugged rocks, maybe that? Can you scan the rock?

[blissful meteor]

They're like this

They don't get highlighted when scanned

[cinder osprey]

Yeah I think that's bugged

It should have an outline around the rock and tell you what it is/what's inside or something like that

but you have nothing

[blissful meteor]

Gotcha

What if I can't extract?

Once I've broken the rock

nvm, was an odd glitch

ty for the help

[feral totem]

Happened to me before. Switch servers and try again

[vernal birch]

ARC L1 just took my auec and didnt give me any fireworks

[scarlet rover]

they don't appear as cargo but will be present on the ship

if you go to the Admin shop on Baijini you should be able to sell

[lethal kayak]

anyone know the best trading route in a C2 rn?

[vernal birch]

no it said transaction failed

and took my money

[scarlet rover]

sux

[lethal kayak]

ive been doing av supplies but am curious

[scarlet rover]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

that site has the data from the game files, but you have to take supply/demand and scarcity into account. if the commodity is highlighted in orange it means it's likely out of stock and being refilled

so far fireworks have been pretty solid but traders tend to flock from the most popular commodity to the next, and the volume of sales drives the margins down

[lethal kayak]

true

[scarlet rover]

actually impressively similar to the behavior of a real market

trader players like to complain about poor margins but don't realize we do it to ourselves due to lack of commodity diversity

[north kite]

i cracked a 40% quant rock then crashed

[lethal kayak]

how long is 1 trade reset tick?

[proud jasper]

the starfarrer is a pretty decent cargo craft right?

[mossy radish]

is the gold rush back or is it over?

[feral totem]

The AV gold rush?

[mossy radish]

yes

i asked before and was told it was over but i just saw a screenshot recently on the subreddit

[solemn lance]

AV and construction materials no longer work

[north kite]

what is the best refinement process?

[solemn lance]

I use dinyx or ferron, best yield. dinyx is slower, but cheaper

half price, but much longer

[scarlet rover]

It depends on your objective: get the most ore, get it fastest, or pay the least to refine? There's a tradeoff with each method.

[scarlet rover]

yes iirc, Starfarer has around 290 SCU cargo hold.

[proud jasper]

cool

[scarlet rover]

obviously the main purpose is the mobile gas station, but it's got a good size hold to go with it

[proud jasper]

the starfarrer will be capable of reloading ships correct?

[scarlet rover]

the military version comes with more armor and stronger guns but I think less cargo space

[scarlet rover]

it is currently

it's live

[proud jasper]

it can reload ships?

[scarlet rover]

OH you mean ammo?

my bad I was thinking fuel

[proud jasper]

IK it can refuel ships

[scarlet rover]

I think it's the Vulcan that will be the repair/rearm/refuel all in one

[proud jasper]

mhm

well I got my starfarrer from that pack so I'll be fine once the re-arm aspect is enabled

[scarlet rover]

no I haven't heard of the Starfarer getting an ammo reload capacity

afaik it is only planned to refuel

https://starcitizen.tools/Vulcan

that's the one I was thinking of that will be able to rearm weapons

[proud jasper]

yep, I got that pack, so I was just wondering

it'd be pretty interesting to see the ability to rearm a ship with the starfarrer as it's got such a huge cargo hold.

[lunar marlin]

is ship or roc mining better when u start?

[proud jasper]

you gotta get to a place to mine with the roc thgough?

[lunar marlin]

yea ik where to roc mine

[proud jasper]

but you need to be able to get there

[lunar marlin]

ok? i have pisces

[proud jasper]

that'll be gone in a few days though.

[scarlet rover]

I don't see the connection

[scarlet rover]

I think the smallest ship that can carry a ROC is the Nomad

a Cutlass Black can also fit one

[proud jasper]

the rearming of ships is linked to how much of said ammo you got in the hull. so the starfarrer could be capable of holding immense amounts of ammo, and since it's already a stoping spot it'd make sense to rearm there too

[scarlet rover]

by that idea, the C2 Hercules would be the ultimate repair/reload bc it has 700 SCU capacity right now. I think for most ships though, the hold is just for storage and transport, unless it has specialized systems to do the repair rearm

[proud jasper]

mhm

[surreal granite]

hey folks, where do I sell refined ore?

[marble crater]

TDD terminal at Area18, ArcCorp is a safe bet

[surreal granite]

cheers

[spice pendant]

What'a a good beginner cargo ship? Someone said Nomad. Also, what's the profitablity like?

[oblique rain]

hello can someone teach me how to trade

[toxic citrus]

buy low, sell high

if you want profitable trading preferably get at least the freelancer max

[oblique rain]

i want to save up for the constellation

[toxic citrus]

Taurus?

[oblique rain]

ye

[toxic citrus]

Even better

[oblique rain]

tried it for the event

was thinking maybe i can keep trading within 2 days

[bitter ferry]

You'll get to rent it for another 2 days when the Drake event finishes too

[oblique rain]

ye

can't seem to find laranite tho

[toxic citrus]

What planet are you on right now?

@oblique rain

[oblique rain]

MT

[toxic citrus]

Ah, you wanna go to either Hurston or AC

[digital mesa]

What quantum drive is optimal for using less fuel while traveling

for a prospector

[surreal granite]

hey where can i buy the Lancet MH1 Mining Laser?

[oblique rain]

but the problem is every time i go to a place that has laranite its sold out

[toxic citrus]

Yep

Sounds about right

[oblique rain]

do i wait or what

[toxic citrus]

Yep

Either wait or look else where

[oblique rain]

how long do i have to wait?

[toxic citrus]

Depends on refresh time

10-20 minutes

[digital mesa]

Does anyone knows whats the key to start extracting rocks with ship

[plucky gyro]

Updated! Your channel’s name is now Bounties/Security/Everything.

[feral totem]

RMB to switch between fracturing and extraction

[digital mesa]

ty

[digital mesa]

How do you analyze a rock for the material

[tulip roost]

Who sells full Pembrokes?

[ashen quail]

why can i not sell fireworks at new babbage in any of the regions? its always out of demand

starting to thikn its bugged

ive waited for over an hour on EU and over 10mins on the other 2 regions

[digital mesa]

what the limit for mining for a rock with the prospector

5k of mass?

[north kite]

so you press tab and that gives you Points Of Interest. These will be rocks to mine if your like in the Aaron belt or a planet. You head over and then press the 'v' key to enter scanning mode. The rock should be outlined in purple (if it isnt then move on, you cant mine it. its really sad as a quant miner) and you just hold LMB. it should say the materials on the right side

[north kite]

its like 9-10k

[digital mesa]

thank you so much

[north kite]

specifically with the lancet and brant module

do not use the helix

[digital mesa]

I'm using lancet m1

are surges dangerous?

[north kite]

lancet decreases instability which just makes it the best mining head by far even though its marketed as 'less power'

[north kite]

no, surges are usually used as well, but brant module is actually cracked

[north kite]

one more thing, rocks have a 'sweetspot' so just move around where your zapping it and try to find it where the power jumps up in the rock the most

[digital mesa]

Why doesnt the charge lvl go up while i mine?

[north oyster]

All the refinery stores and I think Tam&Sons on Lorville

[north kite]

nice quant rock, move closer though

on the left you see the range of the laser, and a bar, you want to move in closer until the bar says 'optimal'

[high wren]

that mass will require a gadget to reduce resistance (bormax?)

[north oyster]

Port Olisar for MH1 Lancet at Dumper's Depoe

[north kite]

port olisar doesnt have lancets i think

area 18 dumper's does

[digital mesa]

oh i see

[high wren]

@north oyster are the terminals for lancet and other mining stuff working now? i tried wide forest but they were still balck

[north kite]

and yeah you probably want to use something like brant, forel, and surge since there arent stampedes

idk if you can crack that without mods

[north oyster]

Surges should only be used at the beginning of a charge on a rock. If you shoot into the redzone Surge causes the critical overcharge speed to increase 100% and the damage to increase 200%

[digital mesa]

I have both but dont know how to activate

[high wren]

i cant crack over mid 5000 without the mods and gads

[north kite]

hold alt and press 1/2/3 depending on which slot its in

[high wren]

i think 1, 2, 3 on numb pad tho right?

[north kite]

I can barely after like deriving it's sweepspot

[north oyster]

The refinery stores had issues, but PO's store was always up

[north kite]

yeah its tragic that PO's dumpers doesnt have stampedes

oh yeah and if you want FLTR-XL is available on the table in L1

[north oyster]

Trade isn't in a good place right now, not seeing trade as being a viable career until 3.18 or Alpha 4.x At this time trade only favors the largest ships. Anything smaller is just doing it because you enjoy the ride.

[north oyster]

but thankfully has the Surge

[north kite]

Idk how i feel about surge

[north oyster]

It's the only attachment I use

[north kite]

I feel like a brant/forel is just more consistant to use

[north oyster]

But I mine in the Halo almost exclusively

[north kite]

yeah same

probably using surge wrong tbh

i get surge/stampede but since there isnt stampede

[north oyster]

I'll have to check those two out, but I'll wait until 3.17.2 when a more "stable" build

[north kite]

yeah but brandt/forel is another -65% instability and -20% resistance

on top the lancet head's already cracked stats

[north oyster]

I'll make a note of that

I do seeing the Lancet loosing it's throne sometime, but hopefully not soon

[north kite]

lancet has to be nerfed, or helix massively buffed because rn its not just an 'auxiliary laser'

preferably helix buffed

[digital mesa]

Can you somehow check your modules while in ship?

[north kite]

it should pop up on the right in mining mode but i cant see yours

It should say 'offline' if was empty though

but its just not there

[digital mesa]

hmm

i think that this rock has to much mass for me to be able to mine

while i mine I cant seem to get the charge lvl up to optimal

[north kite]

i would suggest pay a noob like 50k to wait there while in your part

[digital mesa]

no where near

[north kite]

grab a brandt/forel from olisar and warp back to him

you can warp to ppl in your party

[digital mesa]

can you mark this rock

[north kite]

no, thats why I suggested getting a person to stand next to it

it's going to profit you way more than 50k

[digital mesa]

oh ok

[north oyster]

The Helix massively nerfed because it use to be the Cat's meow. I miss using it

[north kite]

'nerf the good laser on the prospector that is supposed to be a good laser and 5x the price of the other lasers

makes sense

just make it more difficult to use

[digital mesa]

Doesnt the olisar has bugged screens?

[north kite]

like decrease the optimal charge window or somthn

[north kite]

no, olisar does not

[north oyster]

To see how many use's you have left, in interaction mode look to your top right where the interface for the modules are. It will tell you how many shots you have left for each item (is consumable)

[north kite]

olisar's Dumpers Depo has a bunch of active mining mods

which is good

[north oyster]

she use to have a larger green zone, had stable performance, etc. Now they took all that away and then added a 40% delay in the controls.

[north kite]

yeah but it cant even crack like 5k mass rocks

[digital mesa]

Im on my way to olisar

[north kite]

make sure the guy you got to sit next to your rock is in a party

[digital mesa]

i wish i had one hah

[north kite]

ah

rip a 40% quant rock

[digital mesa]

but are they rare

cuz i've found two

[north kite]

40% are

[digital mesa]

welp

[north kite]

also its not too worth it to mine anything under 15% quant really

[digital mesa]

whaat

i got approval of the landing and then they exploded me

[north kite]

did you have quantanium?

[digital mesa]

no

[north kite]

they impound your ship, not blow it up

[digital mesa]

oh

[north kite]

so you may of not had your landing gear down

[digital mesa]

I think im in prison haha

[north oyster]

I'm on the road, so I won't get to play until next week but fortunately the free fly stress on the servers will be over. I want to get a chance to try the new scanning tip for Halo mining (mining mode scan at 8K+)

[north kite]

in landing you probably damaged the turrets

that would give you a crime stat

[north oyster]

Yep, another resurrected bug

[digital mesa]

oh no

do you know ho wto check for how long i got it

[north kite]

yeah

the center terminal

[north oyster]

you can hand mine and reduce your sentence

[north kite]

keep in mind 3600 merit point are an hour off your sentence

[digital mesa]

😄

[north kite]

its probably only like 15 mins though

so just mine a couple rocks and get out

well!

You went from ship mining, to handheld mining!

[north oyster]

you're mining in a Mole?

[north kite]

now you can experience the joy of klescher while learning a new way to mine!

[digital mesa]

prospector :/

[north kite]

(press 4 btw to bring out the mining multitool)

[digital mesa]

how to get down there?

[north kite]

jump

its low grav

[north oyster]

Any the ship exploded and you didn't have any inventory?

[north kite]

i like jumping around in klescher

its really low gravity

[digital mesa]

What should i mine

[north oyster]

I wish I was around for Drake Day. I want to see the Vulture

[north oyster]

you'll see hadanite, the rock has pinkish veins in it

[north kite]

thatd dolvite in the picture to the left

you see the green veins

[digital mesa]

oh yeah

[north kite]

thats also worth getting

you can pull up a mining hud with rmb

yeah anything is worth mining since your sentence is probably really short

just grab some rocks and drop them off

also i had to go to kelto rx and an easter egg is they announced they were looking for a guy in blue jeans, red and white striped shirt and glasses

[digital mesa]

@north kite I spawned in lorville now can i get the surge and stampede here aswell?

[north oyster]

I don' think lorville has anything useful, but I might be wrong

[north kite]

you can not get stampede because its only sold in arc l1

and you cant access the termical

[digital mesa]

I see

[north oyster]

You can get it in New Babbage at Shubin Interstellar

the other 5 places are refinery stores

[north kite]

wait NB sells em?

[north oyster]

I CornerStone finder and that's what I said, but I do recall seeing modules there

[north kite]

I looked at starcitizen.tools

and it says only arc l1

[north oyster]

cstone.space is the place

[north kite]

ah alright

[north oyster]

best arrogated data dump on the web, imo

[digital mesa]

I've just found out that when i was mining quant i wasnt doing right

I was lasering only one point instead of moving around with the laser

[north oyster]

you don't really need to move around, you just need to watch and control your laser power. Moving does help if you feel you're stuck

If you're mining on the surface I guess it is more important to do that. Not so much in the Halo

[digital mesa]

I think so yeah because i didnt see the charge bar go up

[north oyster]

how large a rock?

[digital mesa]

so why the need for modules like surge

8k of mass

[north oyster]

oh, LOL, yeah, it's not going to move much

[digital mesa]

why not

so i needed to use surge right?

[north oyster]

Prospector isn't going to crack an 8k with a naked laser

and stampede

and a third support module

[digital mesa]

with lancet laser?

[north oyster]

correct

[digital mesa]

so that way i use the surge

so i get the mass down to be able to mine

[north oyster]

Yes, it jumps you up near the green or in it. But if you miscalculate and go over, then BOOM

[digital mesa]

I dont want that haha

[north oyster]

it's like flipping a nitro switch on an engine.

[thorny plaza]

so what's the deal with Crusader, is the nearest med bay that isn't Orison Cru L1? Grim Hex after that I guess?

[north oyster]

All stations have med beds

[thorny plaza]

I thought Port Olisar doesn't

[north oyster]

ah, right, it is legacy station

[slender dirge]

it does not

[north oyster]

PO is going to be replaced very soon

[thorny plaza]

so I guess my next nearest option if I don't want to leave Orison every time is GH?

[north oyster]

Or CRU-L1

I use CRU-L1 as my spawn point for that area

Unless you are doing the 9Tails event, then obviously you'll want Orison Hospital

[thorny plaza]

my system really can't handle Orison, it's unbearable running around stuttering every 10sec and not knowing which of them will crash to desktop

[digital mesa]

Where can i keep track of event?

[north oyster]

Turned off Clouds in the graphic settings? Also, don't set the other settings to Low because it throws it all to your CPU. Try Medium

[thorny plaza]

yeah I've done all that. 9 year old processor, 16gb ddr 3 ram will do it

[north oyster]

I'm not sure if it is launched yet, but it is crazy. I walked through the area prior, huge

[north oyster]

ah, got ya ... real physical limites

[high wren]

where do i get bormax gadget in area 18? dumpers?

[vivid sorrel]

Both surge and stampede isn't really to crack bigger rocks, but to make the rocks you can crack with the naked lancet, crack superfast.

If you wanted to crack bigger mass rocks then you'd probably want like focus and\or torrent module

But those increase instability again, so eh.

[digital mesa]

oh I see. I just dont know anymore if my prospector is able to crack like a 8k mass of a rock

some say 5k-6k some 9-10k

[vivid sorrel]

No, i anything approaching 6k will be hard to impossible with a lancet. It depends abit on what's in the rock too and the resistance, but generally 6k alone is a no go.

Maybe Helix? I wouldn't know if that could crack it, it's got alot more power atleast, but not having more instability -% and resistance -% as the lancet does might make it about the same. Except you will have serious instability issues

[digital mesa]

Thank you for the chart and on explaining how the lasers work

[vivid sorrel]

All the sheets 🙂
https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[misty dew]

what ship should i realistically be looking to buy for my first transport ship for quant? i have a propector to mine with and a titan to haul right now. thinking of just renting the cutty until i can afford something better to haul?

[vivid sorrel]

Cutty works fine, 42SCU, so can only take 1 full haul and one half'ish so might have to do multiple runs

Freelancer could be an alternative rent, 66SCU so two full loads, or multiple half loads

[digital mesa]

Why does a ship to haul be useful?

[vivid sorrel]

But for purchase, i'd to a Freelancer MAX

[digital mesa]

to gather more resources at once

[vivid sorrel]

Because you need to transport refined ore to the main planet city's trade terminal to sell, and going back and forth alot is a chore 😄

[digital mesa]

wait cant you just transport it to arc l1?

[misty dew]

why the MAX over standard?

oh nm...double the cargo almost

[vivid sorrel]

You can also shove a roc in there easily with so much space to spare.

The downside...eh...cockpit view is very airplane\limited

[lunar marlin]

I havent needed to carry it so far when i rent one

I just land at the mining outpost and spawn it via terminal

[scarlet rover]

This chart shows the pros and cons of each refining method.

[scarlet rover]

@fast pasture

[north oyster]

The Freelancer MAX gives you 120 SCU for about 2.1M aUEC. Maybe the better cost per scu in the game.

[misty dew]

yeah for sure, i'm just a long ways from having 2.1m to spend haha

[vivid sorrel]

You can sell ore to the ore terminal directly at L-points, but by refining it you basically double it's worth, but loose time and some money to refine it, and have to spend time to transport it to planet

[north oyster]

Rental of a cutty is the best way until you can. Stack your refinery jobs until you have about 10 or so. Then rent the cutty and run cargo until they are all delivered. You will have enough to buy the MAX then. You figure, a good refined prospector load is worth anywhere from 200K aUEC to 275K aUEC per trip.

[dapper spindle]

what is good to haul right now? i cant find any/enough laranite so looking for alternitives

[vivid sorrel]

let me know if you find anything...it all looks meh to me

[north oyster]

Trade isn't in a good place. It favors only the large ships. Laranite will never return to it's glory days

[viral heath]

you got 2 more days for the fireworks triangle in hurston

[vivid sorrel]

That's fireworks one way and scrap back?

[viral heath]

buy fireworks from loreville

to everus

empty run to arial or ita

[north oyster]

You can make good coin doing hauls. I"m not sure AV supplies are still offering the 100% return. but you can try it

[viral heath]

buy whatever you need there

head back to loreville

sell and buy fireworks.. rinse repeat

you nett about 220k per triangle

[north oyster]

yes, event trade is buffed a little

[viral heath]

av and cmats no more

[north oyster]

that ends when ILW does

[viral heath]

fireworks is on par with titanium

[north oyster]

very cool

[viral heath]

yah

[dapper spindle]

so fireworks from lorville to everus, grab stuff from moon, got back to lorville?

[viral heath]

yes

u need a cat or c2 though

[digital mesa]

Cant you refine at l stations as well or is this called stacking jobs and then transporting?

[viral heath]

fireworks from admin office not the tdd

[vivid sorrel]

You do refine at L stations, but then you need to ship that job with a transport ship to the planet to sell

[digital mesa]

oh now i get it

i tought you refine it at the l stations and your job is done lol

[vivid sorrel]

Ah, if it only was that easy 😄

[dapper spindle]

i hef a c2 so im good

[digital mesa]

Is there a limit on how many orders you can make and a timer to expire?

[vivid sorrel]

AFAIK, there's no limit on how many orders you can have in the system, and they will not expire UNLESS they do a patch like 3.17.1 to 3.17.2

[digital mesa]

ok thats nice

[vivid sorrel]

When that comes all orders are gonna go poof, as they did for the 3.17.1 patch, so better adjust for that

[digital mesa]

do wipes delete your ships?

[vivid sorrel]

Wipe? Like full wipe? That would delete your ships that you have not bought with real money. But they are rare i've been told

[opal yoke]

So not quite sure if this fits the room but since we have no room for Refueling gameplay. Is there actually a gameplay loop for it ingame? With AI missions or just player refueling?

[digital mesa]

idk, i've heard that there are wipes every year or so

[vivid sorrel]

Well they wiped for 3.15 because of inventory system, and they will wipe again, for a reason - but they don't just go "Ah, let's just wipe them next patch" 😄

[opal yoke]

The next wipe we know of will be 4.0

Or atleast thats the most likely one.

[viral heath]

3.18 is a possibility depending on the implementation of PES

[digital mesa]

Oh ok, I just dont know whats the meaning of the wipe in this game

[viral heath]

But that's in December

Wipe means everything gone except real money ships

We get char resets every time they do a minor patch

[digital mesa]

what char?

[viral heath]

Character

[digital mesa]

oh ok

[viral heath]

So you lose all consumables

[opal yoke]

Actually given Money/ships are now persistent, we might only get character and inventory resets from now on, but we dont know

[marble crater]

no gameplay yet, can't see it being needed until Pyro is in game tbh but at least it's all set up now

[viral heath]

They might start anew for a clean slate for pes

[scarlet rover]

your person gets reset each update/patch. a "wipe" means anything you didn't pledge for (buy on the website with real money) gets removed

[digital mesa]

anyone knows when this game comes out of alpha state?

[marble crater]

2015

[digital mesa]

wait its not anymore in alpha?

[royal plank]

Best cargo route rn?

[scarlet rover]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[marble crater]

it is still in Alpha so who knows how much longer it will be lol

[scarlet rover]

it's in Alpha now. Chris Roberts has referred to 4.0 as entering Beta

[solemn lance]

I have a suspicion it will be until dynamic server meshing is out

[scarlet rover]

☝️ this i.e. 4.0

[solemn lance]

4.0 is 3.19, correct?

[scarlet rover]

in terms of being the next large patch that follows 3.18, I suppose. But they're calling it "4.0" because it would mark a huge change from the 3.x patches by including server meshing and the Pyro solar system

[marble crater]

4.0 will be a huge step for the game but will still firmly be in Alpha

[scarlet rover]

like when they went from 2.6.3 to 3.0, it added moons, planet surfaces, surface outposts, buying cargo, the mission system, carrying objects, buying items, the interact key, the ATC system etc

so basically all the things people take for granted in the current alpha

it made it from more of a tech demo to a playable alpha

[marble crater]

Server Meshing is absolutely huge and will take a while to get it right

[scarlet rover]

I guess that's a matter of semantics and marketing at that point

I don't have a horse in the race, I'm just enjoying it as it comes

[marble crater]

well if they want 100 systems server meshing is crucial to get that happening

[solemn lance]

yeah, it is just still labeled as 3.19 on roadmap, that is why I asked

[scarlet rover]

ahh

[scarlet rover]

well yes clearly. I meant insofar as debating whether it's "beta" once the meshing tech is incorporated, or not until it's perfected

[vivid sorrel]

meh...that's not really accurate IMO

oh i meant for the SC Trade tools

the inventory and pricing are likely not gonna match up - what it does is tell you where you can get X and sell it.

[scarlet rover]

it's accurate to the game files, it doesn't account for supply/demand and scarcity. you have to apply your understanding of shortages to make informed decisions but the base commodity prices are accurate

the problem is all the traders flock to the "optimal" commodity but the subsequent trade volume depresses margins

like real markets

[marble crater]

ahh I get ya yeah, depends on your stance for sure. For me Beta will be when all the release systems are in place with all the gameplay loops done. Beta is there to bugfix

[vivid sorrel]

My understanding is everyone tries for Laranite and if you want it you gonna have to camp for tiny dribbles of it 😛

[solemn lance]

well, I know the AV and construction materials did not update their prices till long after it was fixed in game

[scarlet rover]

yup. for anyone reading SC Trade Tools, keep in mind to avoid the orange-boxed commodities. That means they have reason to believe they're scarce

[vivid sorrel]

I've done a couple of the "non" orange boxed location too and it's 50\50 if there's stock anyway, so eh. I'd use it for where you can buy and sell, but don't expect stock or pricing to match.

[scarlet rover]

the site is not player/server driven, just pulled straight from the game files. that's the "base" price before it's affected by everyone flooding them with orders.
when everyone is buying laranite at outposts it gets scarce and the outpost price goes up. when everyone is selling laranite to TDDs they get flooded and the purchase price goes down

[scarlet rover]

(psst fireworks are still good right now dont tell anyone theyll flood the market and kill it)

[vivid sorrel]

Meh, it's okay if you have a huge ship

Then 100k each run with a c2?

[scarlet rover]

sure but if someone is still rocking an avenger titan they will probably get more out of the advanced box missions anyway

45k / bunker box mission

I'm just curious how integrating quantum will affect current trading

I would hope that having more NPC traders simulated would balance the market and keep it from being as ball-chasing as the current state

[misty dew]

is there anyway to move the rocks around after cracking them if they're all stacked up on each other?

[vivid sorrel]

Kinda...but you might regret it 😛

You explode\overcharge a crap rock and it's explosion will throw the other rocks away.

[digital mesa]

you can push them with the ship

[misty dew]

i tried, it just banged up my ship

[vivid sorrel]

I suppose it might work if you tried that in space\asteroid belt..i've never tried...but hitting anything physical with your ships screams bad idea imo 😄

[hollow sedge]

Mole mining still bugged?

[vivid sorrel]

Nothing has been patched in live

[hollow sedge]

except the AV bug

[desert mason]

anyone with a mole or any other multicrew mining ship want to do a bit of multicrew mining? looking to chill with some mining and make a little money

[hollow sedge]

mole is bugged kiddo

[desert mason]

oh

well thats sad

[hollow sedge]

been bugged and been sad 😦

[desert mason]

in what way is it bugged?

[hollow sedge]

cant suck up quantanium

[north kite]

Thats funny

[hollow sedge]

The sucking mechanism is broken 😞

[north oyster]

3.17.1 is a dumpster fire - perfect for a free fly and holds to CIG's tradition of patches for free fly events

3.17.2 should have the prior coding that was much more stable folded in

I wouldn't be surprised if Evo saw testing in the next two weeks for the next patch

[deft dome]

Why they would patch that makes the game work worse before a fre fly week is laughable marketing. they should have left it alone and would have garnered more fans. someone would be fired for this in a company that cared.

[hollow sedge]

Yall do realize Alpha in gaming means laying the groundwork for the game and not bug fixes right?

[vivid sorrel]

You realize that with too many bugs there won't be many players to test any groundwork?

[hollow sedge]

The numbers speak for themselves. There are plenty of people that will keep playing

[vivid sorrel]

Then play on - but this current patch has been said is among the worst by many too.

[hollow sedge]

They are getting plenty of testing done. But you gotta remember an alpha isnt for bug fixes. Its for making the structure of the game. The beta will be for bug fixes and I’m with you dude. This ruined mining for me. Theres nothing to do for me literally without mining 😦

However they’re almost at $500 million in funding. They arent going anywhere. They will just keep adding systems likley for the next couple years and supposedly beta is coming sooner than later but i

doubt it***

[rugged axle]

Can still mine with the mole...Just need a couple prospectors to follow you lol. We have been doing it that way a little bit. 3 people. 2 have prospectors. 1 has mole. Find big Quant rock. All 3 in mole to crack. Other 2 back in prosps to extract

[uncut shard]

I figured that's what people would be doing since the Mole can crack bigger rocks.

[fickle night]

hello

what's the best loadout for the mole

for 3 people

[analog robin]

where do i sell comodity cargo at new babbage?

[cerulean lichen]

Trade center in the commons area

[analog robin]

ok thx

[cerulean lichen]

Your welcome. When you enter the plaza area go straight through the middle past the apple like store, and it should run you right into the trade and commerce section,

[analog robin]

tysm btw

[rugged axle]

@hollow sedge same as the prospector...but x3 is what I do.

Lancet head Brandt module. 2 fltr xls

Except triple each for the 3 mining stations

You could instead do the lancet, stampede, and surge. Like alot of people do

[blazing cedar]

Oh my god the Mule is so dinky and adorable

[strange delta]

fix my mole pls ty

[weary copper]

is there a way to buy mining heads and modules since the refineries are broke?

[daring vale]

I'm having a weird problem here - the Microtech admin terminal won't buy even one unit of fireworks.

Which is weird, because it's an entire planet.

Won't even budge a little.

The option is there, the terminal recognizes the commodity, but the price is red.

[vivid sorrel]

Basically that means that demand is full, you need to wait to sell them more because everyone is selling the same commodity to them

[daring vale]

I'm a bit skeptical that the demand of a hundred thousand units can be sustainably met for an entire hour without dropping to needing a single unit at any point.

That's a demand of a hundred thousand per minute.

[vivid sorrel]

hmm...that does sound off. Ususally you'd get it white in a couple minutes

[deft dome]

Yeah then in that case, anyone who grinds for credit in this game is wasting time too, yet too many people do.

[daring vale]

To put this number into context, that means two Hercs would need to be delivering fireworks every minute.

I spent an entire hour waiting. Price remained red.

[vivid sorrel]

Sounds like something bugged then?

[daring vale]

I'm really going to need to offload this cargo somewhere, and then never touch Fireworks ever again.

At least Arccorp is a black hole for medical supplies...

They eat everything, all the time.

Forever.

[deft dome]

This game doesnt have a trade system, it has a "Selling system" You sell stuff to some stations. You should mininally be able to run round-trip deliveries but that is too much for them to figure out a simple economy too, maybe we could expect that in a beta in 10 more years.

[vivid sorrel]

heh, yeah...

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Fireworks

There's only four places that takes it, but eh

[deft dome]

Buy stuff bring it to a big city and sell it. Buy nothing to return to the smaller outposts and rinse and repeat.

[hollow sedge]

People be people. What can I say? I mean at least you can use the credit for ships.

[ocean skiff]

Does anyone know if Construction Materials are still bugged or also fixed? (On a site it says it'd give you a ton of profit)

[vivid sorrel]

There's no construction materials nor AV equips being sold

It got patched out

[ocean skiff]

Actually AV is being sold again but you make a profit of 300k

[vivid sorrel]

It's back in?

[ocean skiff]

Yeah but it's buggy and not worth it lol

[small token]

risk 17mil for 300k

[ocean skiff]

I got my karma and lost 34 mil trying to do it earlier today

[dapper spindle]

tried this run a few times, made a few hundered k, logged of for a while, came back on and i lost most of my cash

a nice round mil has dissapeared

[ocean skiff]

Everyone has 0 aUEC right now

[vivid sorrel]

Eh, considering you get like 100k with a c2 for fireworks, and that investment is like 1 mil IIRC, so better risk\reward.
But fireworks are hot, so idk if it's worth chasing

[dapper spindle]

i had that, that fixed with a relog

i had 2,3 mil, now i got 1mil ish

[daring vale]

This was my take from it. Same with Construction equipment.

Better to go with Medical supplies if you can grab them.

[vivid sorrel]

I'm not logging back in until i know this (the zero money) is fixed 😛

[dapper spindle]

i made like 300k and now im out 1.3 mil, i dont understand

[ocean skiff]

What are some good cargo routes with a bit of risk? I mean more than AV

[vivid sorrel]

It's not really routes that's the risk...though there are non armistice routes ofc, it's the "you invested x millions to buy something, and game crashed, and whoops, 30k protection failed, or it was on your end and game didn't put you back in the ship"

[ocean skiff]

What I mean is just get a tiny bit of cargo on my ship and do some cargo runs that'll give me some money and get me to do some combat from time to time

[vivid sorrel]

You can't really do much with a tiny bit of cargo

[small token]

doesn't exist

[vivid sorrel]

Unless said cargo is hadanite 😄 But that's not really something you trade, like cargo

[dapper spindle]

im leaving cargo running for now, it seems to be backfireing

[ocean skiff]

I just mean medium risk low reward type of runs

[vivid sorrel]

Those are pleeeenty, but more like...You need a big ship for volume since the margin % is often on the low cost goods

[daring vale]

What's a good commodity that would make money when moved in a herc?

Besides medical supplies.

I'm actually considering going back to Titanium.

[ocean skiff]

I've got a c2

[vivid sorrel]

Then you're good

[daring vale]

What's good, profitable cargo to move in a C2?

[vivid sorrel]

I don't know, i don't have a C2 😄

But really, fireworks is good

IF

IF

you can get it and sell it

[daring vale]

I can get a full hold easy, it's the selling part that sucksssssssss.

[vivid sorrel]

Same with Laranite, and Agricium and med supplies

[daring vale]

Especially when the trADE TERMIMNAL IS BUGGED

Laranite. I don't think I'm ever going to get a full hold of Laranite.

Hands down. Impossible.

Everyone's buying it.

Everyone.

[vivid sorrel]

^

[daring vale]

Can't even fill the back of an Avenger with how little is left over.

[vivid sorrel]

I figure it's easier to mine quantanium - i just wish the scanning wasn't such a PITA

[daring vale]

The Quantanium conundrum is extra stupid.

I have the ship for moving quant, but I don't have the ship for mining quant.

[vivid sorrel]

lol

Well you can get that reasonably easy with 2 mil

[daring vale]

Worse, the game is set up so I can't go to someone who HAS the ship for obtaining Quant, and be like "Hey, I have the ship for moving Quant. Quant to split the profits?"

I probably should just get a Prospector, tho.

Start mining Quant...

The payouts are probably pretty good.

[vivid sorrel]

🤔 It would be nice if you could set up a brokered deal for shipping, insured in game etc and just focus on mine and refine

[daring vale]

Yeah!

But that would make sense.

Can't have that.

[vivid sorrel]

Well i HATE saying this, but alpha 😛

[daring vale]

Anyway, I'll stop being spicy, and see if I can rig something in Blender.

[vivid sorrel]

Maybe later, we can hope

[golden kettle]

Does the mule have a purpose just yet?

[vivid sorrel]

Not really? I mean you can probably use it to travel to bunker instead of Ursa...yeah not really. People expect that to change in 3.18 when cargo gets changed

[long cypress]

Hey, would anyone be willing to help me learn beginner ship mining, I am relatively new to the game and wanna start making some real cash lol

[vivid sorrel]

I'd start with this then 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExMVXVWHiAQ&list=PLMd2J1iNJCMeRTQ6z3IryoICCKVwVCEdz

[potent echo]

anyone got any good tips for some cargo runs?

[long cypress]

Ive watched a bunch of videos and ended up exploding my rented prospecter lol, it would be really helpful if I could do it with another person in game

[strange delta]

dont die and lose it all

[potent echo]

that happened to me two nights ago ;-;

[long cypress]

would you help me in game? or nah

[vivid sorrel]

Sorry, can't help you ingame - but the rental prospector is rough!

Mainly because you can't change the laser or equip modules, so you are limited in what rocks you can crack

[long cypress]

Do you know anyone who can play with me?

[vivid sorrel]

You should try #looking-for-session

[long cypress]

I just wanna make some good money and mining seems to be one of the good ways

[potent echo]

honestly, bounty hunting is probably the best way to make some serious cash XD

[long cypress]

yeah but im pretty new and dont have the best ship lmao

and im not the best pilot espicially combat hahahha

[potent echo]

Hmmmmm.... Im not free now, but ill be free later to do some bounty missions with you. I have a gunship and heavy fighter that we could use

[long cypress]

oh yeah that would be awesome, what kinda time you thinking, im from the Uk so its already like 9:30 here

[potent echo]

Im from the US and i have a LOOOONG day ahead of me. So i actually dont know if we will have time today

[long cypress]

arghh that sucks, would love to play with you sometime

[potent echo]

I am not going to be free for the next few days too up until Wednesday of next week. I work in a hospital and am busy often XD

[long cypress]

fair enough, I imagine that's just a bit more important than star Citizen then hahah

[blazing cedar]

Can the Mule be bought in game?

Because it's adorable and I want one

[spare fog]

don't take my word but I don't think it can be bought with in game credit yet

[spice pendant]

Yes

I saw it at new deal yesterday

[spare fog]

how much is it in game or dont you know?

[spice pendant]

Idr. Go to erkule.games and it’ll tell you

[blazing cedar]

fuck yes I'm going to New Deal right fucking now money is no object

[spice pendant]

I’m sorry, o think I read mole not mile

Mules

[blazing cedar]

[spice pendant]

The MOLE is in game. Idk about mule.

Gonna guess not cause erkulwdoesnt show it

[blazing cedar]

[spare fog]

you can buy it for 40 Real dollars

[blazing cedar]

Yeah I don't think it's that cute

[spare fog]

yeah my thoughts exactly i want one but not for that lol

[subtle forum]

Why is the UI for the Mole's mining lasers so shit?

is there something I can do to fix it, its so low res

[hollow sedge]

hole L shift when in mining mode but you cant suck quantanium anyway. The mole is useless right now

[subtle forum]

what do you mean useless?

still have the power equavalant to 3 prospecters

can hit bigger quant rocks solo

[hollow sedge]

considering the mole can hold 96 SCU it just feels useless. I hate prossy mining.

[subtle forum]

I've rarely hit a big enough quant field to completely max the storage

and i dont think you'd need much more anyway with time limit

[hollow sedge]

never been part of a large mining op i see. its ok. to each their own

[candid river]

Short question, if I store my connie with the ROC in it can I still select the ROCs minerals in the refinery deck?

[weary copper]

yup

[candid river]

Shweet, thanks

[weary copper]

np

is the impact mining head with 2 focus modules meta or the lancet with surge better?

[hardy mica]

Can anyone recommend a trade route for a noob with a cat?