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Yh thats what I keep saying to ppl who say they lost everything in the chat
If youre gonna cry incase you lose it, dont put it in a risky place
exactly
At the end of the day, for the people who know how to reliably buy from one place and takeoff and land in one of the most squirrley planets in the verse it really isnt ruining anyone elses gameplay. Good players will still be good players and better than the baddies.
But now all the dedicated people get to try new ships and new builds without the endless grind. I love trading and mining is fun too, but i dont want to do it as a grind, i want to do it to relax.
and unless you are a chinese gold farmer, most people get enough and say.. ok. i dont need more than X
Im sure a lot of people will disagree lol
Been in the refinery shops..alot. And only now i see the water and protein bars 😛
comes with the 890j purchase
lol
Has anybody else had the issue with mining where your ship just randomly disappears and leaves you stranded in a ROC?
Was omw to Orison with the AV when the game crashed. Thank god I restarted with my ship still in space, and the AV still in my ship!!
nope, maybe it depends on what ship you use
This use to happen in association with bed logging from your ship. That bug was resolved over a year ago but seems a lot of bugs have resurrected
I rented the cutty black for a week so I could have something to transport my ROC
idk if i even want to try because i hear thunder is coming closer to where i live :p would suck to lose the internet right before getting there
connies for free to rent atm
ah and you log out in bed? never had that issue myself (i dont use a cutlass black, i did 2 years ago)
As of today, yes. I rented it like 3 days go tho
yep
fair enough! Thanks for the heads up
Free fly will let you use other ships, have a host of escort ships for the ROC on hand
Sadly I'm traveling so no SC this week 😭
That's true, I just didn't feel like flying a connie all over a planet to find hadanite lol
thats what i did, it works perfectly :p
to each their own I guess lol
If you can get a MAX on MISC day, that's the best ROC transport imo
i hate misc because of their tiny window
only mis for sale on invictus
Ah, k
Not the prospector, then you get all window 😄
""too small"" xD
but the freelancers are a big nop for me
They feel like...big Boeings
MAX has best blend of size, wide ramp, excellent fuel recovery. The handling is well within parameters. I can land her anywhere and roll right out to the deposits. But to each their own
i bought a ton of construction mats and thought i stored it in my cutlass black, but now in orison i realised its not in the cutlass and the terminals dont say which ship has the cargo, i am scared to claim anything
ok, i made one of those uSCU boxes for bringing to bunker missions. my buddy logged with his in his ship (cutlass) and it disappeared when he claimed it. I tried to leave port tressler with mine and log from space to avoid that. unfortunately, i was rammed and exploded... anyway, does it always disappear when you log or is it buggy and may or may not from your experiences?
If you claim the ship the box is on it will go poof
You need to store\retrieve to keep it
damn, thats what i thought 😦 ok glad retrieve and store work at least
this cargo money has to be a bug right? no game loop should be capable of providing like 10000% more than all the others... that said, have they mentioned any notion to resolving it?
Claim is basically new ship, cargo lost, etc
Nothing heard at all
this is wild, yesterday i was like "maybe i'll pick up a sabre, but i'm gonna wait a day or two so i make sure my bankroll doesn't fall below a mil or two after i buy it"
today i'm like "guess i'll pick up a carracka nd a 600i
heh
It's...well it's up to you how much you want to use this. It can likely ruin the experience, but that would depend on you.
does the 600i have a spawn bed yet?
whats the best mining head on prospector?
Depends on which guide you read 😛 But most people would say Lancet
Assuming you're gonna mine for Quantanium
im rather new to mining on prospector so im not sure i understand how the quantanium timer works
Simplified you have 15 minutes when you start extracting it into your hold to get it back to station and store your ship. The actual timer is different, as it updates during extraction of new quant and calucates the mass of it vs mass of what you got etc
But it will show you exact time at bottom right corner when in mining mode
Alright. Do i refine it or just sell the ore?
Ah ok
But you do need a ship to transport it after that, and take it to the big city's trade district to sell
Hmmm. Maybe ill just start on the smaller minerals.
I dont have a second ship to transport it
You can probably make use of this one if you're very new
This video provides an overview of mining gameplay in Star Citizen, with a high level overview of mining equipment, mineable resources, locations and surveying, the process of fracturing mineable rocks, and refinery basics.
The United Earth Mining Corporation RSI Page: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/UEMC
My Cheat Sheets:
https://redmo...
TLDR: There's alot 😄
mmm tasty hadanite...until server crashes and all goes poof 😦
How do we even make money trading ?
Like, for 700k, I bought like 50k of a ressources
Can't sell more than 5k at a time
Trading is not that profitable at the moment. I’d stay away from it if your goal is to make money. It’s fun for exploring the verse and visiting new spots. But not the best way to make money.
What you do is you buy a Lancelet.
And you get 2 consumables for the laser. The stampede and the Surge.
You will be able to mine most rocks with those if you get good enough. Go to Arc-L1 station and set that as your base of operations, now QT to Lyria and start looking for quant, they are usually in batches of 2 or more.
Shoot your laser, use surge, then when in the green stampede.
Rinse repeat.
Mate trading literally made me 40 mil
in two days
so i dont know what you are talking about lmao
Break down all rocks to the smallest possible. Then fly back to ARC-L1 to refine and keep doing that.
*always select the job that has the highest yield, you can have as many jobs as possible. At the max capacity each job wil net you 250k when sold.
Interesting you must be better at it than me I have a c2
What’s your trade route?
its all over youtube etc
so ill just direct you there
the route i use is a bit better because there isnt an issue with supply
but demand right now is unfortunately in the drink
unless you do it at very quiet hours
but it can still make mad money
each trade im doing now in carrack
makes me 10 mil
each single trade
That’s insane.
yes, i spent some of it on hammerhead and starfarer gemini for our group
i still have 20 mil odd left, im wondering to try it one more time or call it good
because now its more public
See I was thinking like selling minerals only nets you like tops 100k profit from a full cargo load
the demand at orison is unfortunately making it so i have to region hop
to sell reliably
and its alot of risk with 10 mil in your hold lol
sent
so how do i handle the refined ores if i dont have a transport ship?
can my prospector handle that task too?
or should i just sell ores till i can buy a transport ship?
make muneey
What is the best way to go about hand mining?
Take an investigate misssion for a cave, goto that and hand mine. But you should try to upgrade to a rented ROC & Cutty ASAP
A bug doesn’t mean it’s “profitable” you shouldn’t invest in it because it’s a bug and will be patched eventually xd
Is a character reset gonna delete my refinery orders?
A proper mining load can get you nearly 400k if done correctly and I’m pretty sure it’s way more if you’re efficient with a mole but also you have to use a mole so there’s that
Yah I’m just saying quick and dirty prospector runs
Yeah a good prospector run will take you about 15 minutes total and net you about 400k I believe if done correctly
The time can definitely vary depending on luck though, could be 30 minutes or if you’re really unlucky 45+ but that’s around the time you just give up
dont you then need a ship to run that refined quant to a sell spot
Yeah, but you can rent one for pretty cheap like 20k or something a day
How long does it usually take for Laranite demand to bounce back up? sc-trade says 2k/min
I'm trying to sell Laranite @ the orphanage but it's red
I'm assuming its bc of demand?
Are you using Trade Tools?
Yes
Do you see the check boxes on the left side?
Yeah
What do they say? I think it's the bottom one
This one here?
This one
You're gonna want that on and set to 3k if you don't have it already
Ohhhh gotcha gotcha
It basically means you can buy everything at once and sell at once so no waiting ideally
Oh sweet, thanks!
Where can i sell construction goods
Can i sell at orison?
Err construction materials
Is the Freelancer MAX really worth an extra 400k for 20 or so SCU more over the Raft?
Yes- much more gameplay opportunities with the Max. The Raft can only transport cargo.
So I am new but had this game for a while I want to learn how the mining works I watch a lot of videos on it but still confused what to do
after searching every ship for the cargo i can say, i bought a lot but did get nothing, down from 200k to 10k
is it worth trading AV equiptment rn
Yes
The max is faster and handles atmo better
Yeah, plus the whole "carries an ROC" thing... I see y'alls point, I'll save some more, thanks. Unless there's something equally capable as the MAX for less money but I don't see it
@tawny pecan I've got ~80K after some monitor missions and that feels like an accomplishment lol. I can't imagine 9 figures..
TBF I've really only been playing a couple hours and only test flying the free rental ships.
Is anyone else unable to buy AV equipment?
Has it been fixed? The audio visual tech and concrete?
Everyone has access to the c2 and they will use it to those trade runs. It will take time to buy/sell due to supply and demand
How long does it take to restock?
Is Construction Materials doubled too? AV takes way too long to restock
The Tumbril Cyclone RN has a scanner and the game text mentions being able to place beacons. Is that in the game atm?
so whats the trade route rn that supposedly doubles your money?
Buy at Area 18, sell at Orison
Have not checked this out myself, but just saw a video where a C2 was used to do the run and he had double the value when selling.
can that possibly be worth it with all the time it takes to get into Orison, travel around it and get out again
If you buy a 17mm cargo and sell it for 32mm?
can someone tell me where to sell construction mater?
how much you gotta invest for that
depends on what you buy... the C2 is a big ship, one of the larder cargo ships in the game right now
you could easily put 1M worth of cargo in that thing
it doesn't matter... you can buy anything to fill up your ship
dont some cargos give better return than others?
like the AV equiptment and event cargos
ah
does it matter where you buy from? like will buying from area 18 give different results than another area
check out https://uexcorp.space - it's a good place to checkout values of commodities by location
Mining Calculator, Trade, Prices, Risks, Profitability, Mass to SCU Converter, Ships List, SCU, Prices and more
i dont see any routes on here that are doubling money lol
it's a bug, so the rates will not apply to selling
just take whatever they say the value is and double it
that is if the bug has not been fixed already
dang, guess the gravy train is over
nevermind i was at the wrong ipad lol
still doesnt let me buy AV equipment, like its sold out or somethin
how do i check my quantanium timer?
you have to be in mining mode
in the prospector, in the Mole you can't from the piolet's seat
is there any way to check if the cargo is actually in my ship now?
or do i just hope it didnt bug out lol
no way until you store your ship and go to a selling terminal
it's most likely there, even if you don't physically see it in your ship
alright
Just hit "M" and bottom right
tyty
Heads up that if you don't store your ship and try to buy supplies, it may fail and take your money anyway! Just lost ~1 mil
Does a stock Freelancer fit a ROC in the back?
how much does it cost to rent a C2 hercules
It's free today
free at the convention center
for how long
Yeah it should fit
Today and tomorrow, 48hr rent time
oh damn nice
What about the Cutlass?
Definitely Cutlass
If I'm on Calliope, where's the closest place to buy a Prospector?
buy? New Deal on Hurston - Lorville
What cargo you guys running these days?
What time Friday does Invictus end? Maybe I should grab a rental first and see how I like it
I'm not sure exactly what time it will end, but you should def grab a rental and try a new ship!
Wish the Cutty Black would have a cash sale so I could upgrade from my Titan more cheaply
It should be out during drake day, no?
I've never tried mining, even with a multitool, so wondering if
- I would like it,
- if it's a steady moneymaker
We haven't had Drake day?
I'm wondering if I would miss having the Titan if I melt it. I really should try the Cutty Black and Prospector tonight
Not yet, no Drake day is coming this weekend I think, I don't remember the scheudle
Try the Prospector! It's a great ship and mining definitely makes money if you refine your ore before selling
You might miss the Titan, Cutlass used to be a great combat ship but now it's pretty sluggish! Good armament and much better if you play with a friend though
yeah, I'm a loner, Dottie. (PeeWee Herman.gif)
Titan isn't the best combat ship either though, and I'm not sure which is better in a fight Cutlass vs Titan. But it's probably close!
For cargo, Cutlass is awesome though in comparison
With my hearing, I can't even make out what ATC is saying when I land or take off. I just wait for the window to close
ATC is messed up really bad right now, yeah.
yeah, I try to avoid space combat, since I'm so bad at it right now.
but yeah, hard to play with other players when I can't make out what they're saying
That is messed up ATC issue if you want to contribute!
Cargo trading is really good now with AV equipment during Invictus, if you can survive the bugs!
dose it still duble your money at orison?
It sure does
But I am seeing sold out at the moment
A lot of people are seeing it sold out today
I think getting eaten by elevators has given me trauma 😛
lol
I always step back in case a phantom elevator door tries to kill me from behind
and always look to see if the elevator is there before running through the doors! 😄
I now run 10 meters away 😛
It still instaglomps me at times, just teleports me into it and then into the station
Today someone else's elevator killed me when I was walking up to the lobby area!
Lots of new bugs this patch
how do i permatly buy the herculles
Get about 5mill and buy it at Area 18 or Crusader stores
Is there a workaround on the mole having no cargo (0/0 SCU)
I tried switching servers, destroying it and restarting
Basically it's fixed, but not in our live build
why would i not be able to buy AV at area 18, but can buy everything else?
Out of stock most likely - everyone is bying it
gotcha
would it be like that across servers?
and also my friend who is in the same server as me was able to buy it...
Yes, trade is global across all servers\regions
It updates periodically, but I did switch servers and was able to buy recently.
Probably a coincidence
It's just because of time
Yeah i picked one up 3 days back just right place right time
did they patch the visual and audio cargo?
Not yet
Oh no, I just bought a load lol
i literally saw the price go from 500 out of stock to current price in stock to sell at olisar
RIP. Is that area 18?
I just got some from area 18 5 mins ago
yep
yeah 5 min ago it was fine, i died because of water -> ran back and it was gone
Hope I can sell lmao or that's my cash blown
I just server hopped over to EU
got one last load
wondering if I will be able to sell lol
rn i regret going to eat dinner or i would have made 2 trips more. can afford a 890 atleast lol
They fixed prices?
its over right?
they literraly fixed it while i was at the console
yea same
didnt fix price, they removed the item
they locked it out, i was staring at 500/unit for my 1st run or 500k 
but not live on all servers yet
not for me. it let me sell what i had. got the 17mil back
price is fixed at Orison
bruh why CIG
Noooooooo
I just sold and it was same as buy price
Crap there goes my money on this last load then
oof
Where else it being sold
gotta get ready for money wipe?
Oh man and I just rented a C2 for AV
Don't know! Maybe C2 day was too much and they nerfed it
Same lol
At least I made 4 mil until it was removed
ill deff buy the 890 so i wont have it as a goal, then work on small ships
I just had the 'purchase failed' bug take all my money anyway so the AV ended up losing me money
Been at work for past 12 hours, never got to do any :(
can you sell if you have a load or no?
yep i’m down like 20 mil
yea just for the same price
someone above said for exact same price you bought it at
ah i see
Yup I sold for buy price
how did they patch it out without shutting down servers?
because it pulls from a service
the game servers are independent of the trading db or graph whatever the fuck they use
Exactly, it pulls from a database
thats why the terminals go jank and slow sometimes
cos they having issues pulling that data
Dang I am still 2 mil away from getting a 400i
so whats gonna be the best trading route now?
Back to the normal stuff ^^
honestly a full c2 of av still gets you like 400k or something
250k'ish something i tought
Where can you buy AV?
gotcha. but its selling for buy price rn right?
It's gone from terminals isn't it?
and thats a 17m investment for 400k gain, pretty risky
for sure. but before this double money route was found, that was still the best trade route
If it's gone from terminals and they chose that as a "solution" any existing cargo will be impossible to sell anywhere.
That's really a bad solution. Are we sure you can't sell it other places at normal prices?
From what I can tell you can sell, you just can't buy anymore
i was able to sell what I had. got like 400k profit
Where did you sell @rotund prairie
flying there with 17.5m worth, kinda wonder what im going to get for it
Hmm plot thickens
did it like 10 minutes ago. the price was nerfed, but it let me sell
welp it was fun while it lasted
Okay, well that's fine i suppose..I'd rather they just fix it properly, but..eh.
Maybe they changed price again. When I sold it was same as buy price
i only got 1 run of like 500k in sorta mad they patched it out rn LOL
I can also still sell it for 253,8
mega oof, well at least ill get my money back
yeah you should get your money back
Dope! I sold for 248
im buying ships like mad atm
"Smart Buy"
an owed one, yes. A rented one, no
well i already own one lmao
i just remember the search for good quant rocks being a pain
That is still is, but if you google some scanning techniques for it it's not too bad
mhm
Is Construction Materials fixed as well?
probably
yea all the invictus stuff
Yes
kk
welp, fun police have struck
To be fair, the economy is in shambles now lmao
what economy? there is no economy, none of this matters until there's an actual working economy system which won't be for another patch or two at least
at least this way people can test new ships, haha, and different gameplay loops
so what's going on with trading exactly? every admin office only has waste and scraps to sell and I can't tell if I'm stupid or missing something
they live-patched it via the commodities database
like, prices changed in front of peoples' eyes, haha
why cant i geat out of my seat in my c2 hercules
prices changing is one thing but there literally is nothing but waste and scraps
is everything else coming back eventually?
i can buy in area 18 again
Yeah the removed the buy, and changed the sell price
Buy 249.28 Sell 253.8
yep
Better than nothing haha
Feels poor again man
gunna see what happens
I'm glad this chat exists to discuss this though
me too
i made a little but it was worth it haha
How?
transaction failed multiple times, didnt load anything into the ship and still took my money.
wasted like 6 hours doing this siht
oof
oof
yet mole mining is still fucking broken
this day was just a giant fuck you from cig
can anyone give me money for a c2? i want it afterwards as well.
So if they fixed it mid QT, and now I can't even sell at cost, i'm just SOL?
Yup that bug really sucks
I was able to sell still but only made back the investment on that run
Did you sell at the original spot or have to return? I just flew all the way to Orison and now I can't sell off the construction stuff. Finally tried C2 because event and it majorly fucked me
soo its lookin like its not even gonna let me sell my construction materials?
not even for the price i bought it at
im here and the "amount to sell" slider is sort of greyed out
the price/unit is red
can I leave the server im in while I have cargo in my stored ship?
If you bed log, yes, or if you store it at the spaceport yes
THat might be the case, I'm sorry dude :/
Do not log out with your ship on the pad not stored in this patch, you could lose it all
I had that happen too this patch
damn that is really rough
No it hasn't
What a shit fix, removed instead of lowered. Way to go.
well my ship is stored, you think my cargo is safe for now?
alright, when would it become available to sell?
I haven't traded since like 3.12 so maybe that could be a change since then
you should be able to sell it at some other places to at least get your investment back, say bajini point? apparently it buys avs
but the moneymaking is over
maybe, its also never been consistent
like in some patches you can be fine 95% of time
People used to fly up to a station, call ATC, kill themselves, then the cargo would be in the ship in the station
then pad doesnt recognise you, you log, and its 'unknown'
Yeah learned this the hard way, really sucks
whats gonna be the best method for that now
True
who knows, did they fix fireworks or some shit as well
i heard there was a half decent fireworks run
think its all fixed
Probably all
Probably going to be back to astatine in microtech system, who knows though

going back to laranite runs and hoping the normies are still stuck in orison
trying to sell
Titanium?
haha
Good idea
uhm the audio files are back again for me now
but normal price?
Best feeling was logging into the server after a new patch dropped ASAP and filling a C2 with laranite at base price
Which audio files?
yeah it's already possible to buy again
i just wonder if it sells for 500 still
nope
you cant sell at all currently
def not
no demand
i just did like 10 minutes ago tho
how much did you make gregi?
🤷♂️
like for each unit
Buy 249.28 Sell 253.8
was last price recorded
ouchh
So price going up
then ill wait a while to see if it changes
on my way now to sell.
It let me sell at Orison, was also selling construction mats
I did my first run cuz I couldnt get AV
so it's over?
What’s a good place to mine ore?
Yep, finally popped back in, got my money back. Not trading again in this game, what a mess.
ugh did they fix it
yes
It's over
god dammit
asking this here because it's really the closest channel to it, but have they ever discussed actual craftings? Becoming a ship builder or a person who makes the ammo people sell, etc
lmao can't fix elevators killing people for years but can stop people from making money (also while crashing the economy)
So true!
they also patched this out right away but cant fix moles but bein able to hold scu LOL
Can't let people have too much fun with a tech demo alpha with fake money
Are we sure its been patched?
Can we still sell what we have on board from yesterday?
yep i think its done now lol
AV equipment price change
Bought @ 247 in NB
Sold @ 253 in Orison
yep trying to sell mine now too
so no point picking up AV equipment then
i wish they would fix mining in the mole. I miss it so much
quick question. Is scrap selling back yet?
im sitting on 2406 AV waiting to sell it
i would just sell it and move on
the glitch is gone
apparently
unless its still selling for 500
Yup, it’s gone.
im so happy they removed it
wait scrap selling is gone??????????
yep its done.
damnit!
sold it got like 10k on top of it
I could make 60k an hour off of scrap runs!
Who else is buying a bunch of stupid ships tonight because you made Elon money last night selling av equipment lol
is av equipment the latest trend in selling?
what is the website that logs trading item info?
mind sharing ;D
It's fixed
Its "fixed" now, but you could sell av equipment for double yesterday
Yall missed the bus
bruhh i logged out and logged back in and all my money from my most recent trade is gone
would that mean that my cargo is still there?
I just couldnt get down to orison
Yeah that happened to me once they rolled me to pre purchase
ah shit
what about the construction mat?
well i got a cat. What stuff should i try trading since im getting back into star citizen from being gone almost a year
laranite like always
since the arbitrage has been fixed
any suggestions to fix this?
I don't think there is a fix it happened to me when I first found out about it and they just rolled me back to right before the purchase
whats the best way to make money hauling with a C2?
Damn was fun while it lasted
wdym before the purchase
hey is you name by any chance SPACEWEEDZ in game?
TLDR Figure out a couple routes that arent heavily being used by people and run those.
nope
nvm
i sold it in orison, so ig im wondering will i have my cargo back aswell if i dont have my money anymore?
mine didn't
mine rolled my cash roll back to before i had even made the purchase in a18, so maybe my case was different than y ours
Which part of the seat in the Prospector do I point to to get the inner thought menu to get out of the seat?
I tried mousing over the entire right side and left but didn’t get the cursor turning into a circle
@hollow sedge I checked the quide
press and hold Y to get out of your seat @feral totem
any one know why my drake catipliller the last 2 stations i went to i explodes after i walk off my ship (just lost 700k in cargo)
is mining in the mole bugged rn?
i heard something about it not being able to take cargo just wanna make sure
yes it is been broken since Invictus came out the devs will patch a money expolit on cargo but cant be bothered for the only other mining ship in the game
I get the frustration, but it’s a lot easier to update the service than a whole game client release which they probably don’t do during an event. Hopefully they still fix asap!
So question on mining. I see people suggesting getting someone to "scout" for you.
Do they just mean have someone in a small faster ship, in scan mode? It'll show them the type of asteroid right?
yall know if construction materials were nerfed?
Someone please help me I was stupid and put all my money into a cargo run and I glitched out of my ship mid quantum and now it’s gone
I have nothing
Yup
Could someone send me some money I would really appreciate it
I'm really sorry, but it's gone
I had the same thing happen with my Argo Raft
I have a grand total of 64 auec now
Cool cool. Snub/racers should be decent at scouting right?
Yeah they'd probably be good!
Sounds like it's time to pick up bounty or mercenary Sasuke.
If you have a Roc you can use the ship you brought the Roc in to scout
I meant mainly for asteroids in the belt. But yea, if I try on lyria that would be a good option.
I have a snub with my Andromeda a friend could pilot to scout while I mine it with the prospector
did the cargo audio thing bug get patched?
Yup
fuck i got the flu so i could not get on today
so what is the best way to make money rn then?
its over right?
The usual before the bug.
Can anyone help to pick the best mining parts for my Prospector ?
Idk which head, gadgets or modules to use
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Lancet head, Brandt module, 2. Fltr xl.
That's what I run. Alot of people run lancet head, surge and stampede modules.
Are those active or passive modules ?
thx man
Brandt, stampede, and surge are all active.
Filters are passive
ok nice to know thx you both
are the pannels working again
Mining the belt I haven't needed the surge or stampede. May take a little longer, but I'm filtering 40% of waste using the XL modules. Last haul was 28scu Quant of 32scu total. Other 4scu was still "valuable"
I bought all mine from shubin in NB.
best place to ROC mine?
i like daymar
Daymar or lyria is what I've heard. But haven't done any roc mining yet
ive only ever mined quantanium on lyria
And where do you sell? Lorville right?
i mine on lyria then go straight to arc L1
You can sell at ARC l1?
super close and super quick
Gotcha
You can sell unrefined or setup to refine it at arc l1. If you refine, your taking to arc Corp to sell it there
I didn't think you could mine Quant with an roc though? Thought it was only gems
Did anyone else who ran cargo today lose like 1/3 of you AUEC?
trading has been buggy to say the least
it's easiest to suggest staying away from trading vast ammounts of AUEC
is drug running still proffitable?
hey traders, soo... AV trading bug is definitely gone ? or someone is still doing it atm ?
Gone according to the posts in here and RSI patch from earlier
Ohh, ok, i look into those things but didint noticed this... thanks! well, i could milk it more but still nice boost, few basically free ships 😄
but i am glad its gone... it was ridiculous... but too tempting to ignore it
arc L1 has a refinery but people are saying refining is scuffed or something im not sure
do you have quantanium?
nope but it doesnt matter cause i just lost everything cause an asteroid decided to spawn outta now where
all that work is now lost
Those rogue asteroids…such a pain
nvm seems to just be an issue with the mole everything else should be working fine
I never finna make any money man
You’ll get there. Be patient. Ive gone hours/days without making money and then that 1 good day I made millions with 25 quantanium refinery orders
Oh then you dont even need to refine. Just sell
Fly around Daymar for hadanite and you can sell at one of the moons stations. Kudro I think
does anyone know if mining with a mole is broken or not?
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I can't seem to fill the ship with material
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it just won't load the cargo
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twice, i've gone on a run and came back with nothing
dammit, i just read the past posts and i guess there's an issue with the mole
ballks:(
rip the best space trucking I've seen in SC. Long live the AV empire
I mean they will eventually do a wipe again, let us enjoy some easy cash
can someone just confirm for me, is the mole broken?
right now yes
balls. any idea if they are planning on fixing it?
100% not storing any materials
dont know
yep no clue, bought prospectors for me and my crew til it is fixed
lol i need to get some mon i lost 1.7 mill today now got 20$
whats your ig name?
dude, they always make some great strides in one direction, while simultaneously breaking another part of the game
just stuck with 400SCU of stuff I can't get rid off at all rn
I'd like my cargo space back
What you trying to sell and where?
Likely AV at Orison
Lol
nay fucking around with construction mats on MT
not glorious wallet fattening money there but still
pretty sure it should at least sell
How long have you been waiting to sell. And did you already have the cargo before they fixed the glitch
20min at most
You might be boned
I wasn't expecting 100s of ks in profit but I also wasn't exactly expecting a 100% loss for literally no reason

Hey, i have a question about refining i have a Freelancer (6600 cSCU) and im refining 8631 Quantainium. when i will collect all my refined quantanium i will lose some ? or the 2k more quantanium will be stored in the refinement center ?
You can load the ship up and i believe any remaming would stay in the refinery? Never actually encountered that
Would make sense the remaining amount stayed
just to be sure cargo resets on relog yeah?
cause when it's not finished you can stop and collect (and you lose the remain )
Cargo in your ship? No
relog time then ig
Correct. You’re basically canceling the order and wasting the unrefined
Store your ship first
Relogging wont resolve the not being able to sell issue since trading is linked across servers
so if i wait i can split all my refined ores ?
would've expected a live rework of prices rather than just removing the options entirely
this is a weird one
Possibly. My assumption would be it will max your freelancer and keep whatever remaining you have in the refinery
i will see in 12hours xd
You have 1 order of 8000+ or is it split up
100 cscu = 1 scu
cSCU is 1/100th
ok
thats what i thought but i wasnt sure
so
how're ores priced then
like 88 aUED for one SCU of quantanium?
or one cSCU
lmao
yeah see what im saying?
because its supposedly super profitable
but if it was uh
scu itd only equate to like
So a full load of a prospector would be 32 scu which is 3200 cscu
Its 88 x 3200
ok ok ok
gotcha
lol
yeah thats more like it
281k
minus costs is about 250k profit
Costs and refining loss
yeah
yeah
im using dynix right now
just cause im in no hurry for the money
so low cost high yield is yum
I strted using Ferron recently because of how much faster it was. 20 refinery orders easily negates that cost difference
yeah true
yeah ferron is what i use to
it's split up in 3
you're fine then
even if you try to load a almost full ship, it would probably give you a warning first
I have a question. What are the best upgrades for Prospector?
I honestly wouldn't upgrade any components other than the Quantum drive and maybe....shields. Other than that, a Lancet Laser is your best bet
thx this is super helpful
check the Pins, theres a few good guides there
Bro they fix the cargo bug but they don’t fix the panels being black how can I buy modules ?
@idle blade Here's the chart breaking down the costs and benefits of the refining methods
you can see Ferron is 2x the cost of Dinyx, but 1/3 the time
yea so if you dont need to money, go with Dynix
likewise Pyrometric is 3x the cost of Ferron but another 1/2 Ferron's time
yup. if not in a rush, just building savings, Dynix is most efficient
Why is no one caring about the screens being black ? How do I buy modules
did they fix the trading system
i think the best place right now is probably arc18
@ dumpers depot
hey guys i heard there is a trading money glitch on area18 do you know about that ?
Going on a scavenger hunt for my prospector
since I have to get mining mods from not just like arc l1 or something
i think the consensus is store your ship before going to the terminal to trade
? how does that work
except it sold for 2x the price it was supposed to sell for
it wasnt a glitch, it was a bug
In the mining guide, what does it when it says "on loss of method"?
so i guess your right, but its still abusing a bug
seriously. Where are you supposed to store your ship? :p
the fleet manager terminals
did they just add those in this update?
Last time I was at private property there was no place to store your ship lol
@thin escarp do you have info of whats best to trade and where to sell ?
Mining Calculator, Trade, Prices, Risks, Profitability, Mass to SCU Converter, Ships List, SCU, Prices and more
thanks
So I guess this is a "I'll just have to start going to the places without a landing pad" moment
trading is bad rn
good luck gettin enough cargo 😄
It's...the Mega Mining Guide
just get a prospector and mine
its shared across every server.
Trading is pretty good
@rancid compass check my pdf that pinned.
I consistently make 500k-1m/hr in a Hull A
@thin escarp why is it limited ?
Oh! Got it. Thanks.
it's not the "Best" money in the game
but it is by FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR the most CONSISTENT money in the game
anything involving a contract is a 50% chance of success at best for each run
mining?
Mining has way more risk involved
when game snipes your cargo
I make around 750k every 35-40 minutes once mole mining is fixed again
dude what are you talking about
aaron halo?
trading is way more risk
Not happened to me in dozens of runs
you have to put money down
Wait. Sorry. I'm on the refinement step now. Not mining.
i dont have to put money down besides buying my mole
doesn't the mole need 3 people to run?
@rancid compass use ferron exchange
no
you can solo
i usually run 1 laser 1 pilot 1 scout
its a common practice to solo the mole
So don't bother with refining then?
Anyway, mining is cool, but cargo is super chill and super consistent
Oh that's the name of it! My fault.
lololol
basically if you find a 8k masss rock you can set other lasers on really low power on it and then crack it with another laser
My the only?
you are
Well I dunno, most of my friend group runs cargo for money
its the worse way to get money because the stake you have in the game not devouring your cargo
we've never had issues
microtech bunkers give like 90k for around maybe 5-10mins
I have a ~30% success rate of the game not screwing me over and usually LOSING money on any type of contract. I have so far had a 100% success rate with far more hours on cargo.
Bunkers work maybe half the time. Most of the time I do a bunker the last enemy doesn't spawn
or a server lag causes an AI to teleport and kill me
perhaps get a better pc
and boom...there goes at least 10k of gear
Lmao my PC fixes the servers LUL
gigabit fiber and RTX 3070 ti/48GB/5800x@4.6ghz
but tell me more about how my internet and PC cause the servers to be garbage LUL
Cake W
Cake W
Cake W
I have a better pc
That's very nice honey.
Doesn't change anything though.
anyways idk how you lose money with contracts
Alpha Game that's broken lol
the majority of people i've met on this game
and yes i have played recently
currently online rn
they have no problems with contracts
its just you?
Cake W
but they do have an issue with cargo
Me and my entire group
But yeah, just me
And people constantly people mirroring the experience in world chat
but yeah, just me
Whatever you say kid
Gonna go ahead and block you so I can see more relevant conversations in the future
the only major issue i've met so far is the refinement shop terminals not working
you bragged about your PC specs and then downplayed it when I said I had some better specs
you block after we just talked about bugs and glitches we've encountered? did you think i was arguing with you?
You took every chance to be very passive aggressive
(e.g. "Have you PLAYED the game recently?";
"Me and my entire group
But yeah, just me
And people constantly people mirroring the experience in world chat
but yeah, just me";
"Gonna go ahead and block you so I can see more relevant conversations in the future")
You are the epitome of a redditor.
You are quick to insult.
The only reason why you cant find a meaningful conversation is that you make it impossible for other people to uphold a meaningful conversation.

thank you for listening to my TED talk.
if i leave my cargo in my ship stored in a hanger
How long do u think it will stay there
welp guess it's time to scrap my 400SCU of construction mats
dont abuse a bug maybe i guess
Howdy y’all, any solo mole liners that can answer a question?
idek wtf the whole bug thing is about
I don’t mine yet, but was thinking about solo mining a mole with the new charges and stuff and utilizing the space in the mole, is that a viable thought or should I just run a solo prospector. I want something lucrative but also interactive and fun.
Mole is broken, but prospector works just fine
the construction mats trading in orison was bugged along with VA equpment to sell for 2x what it should have
Most people trading construstion mats were abusing the bug
or most people trading in general

what is the arccorp to orison cargo run?
starting to think I'm just fucked because I can't sell any cargo anywhere
how do you unlock the pirate caterpillar >
just double checking. Scrap doesnt work, yes?
Patched.
does having alot of gems lying around put any significant load on the server?
How much i can make wth roc ??
wait what actually, jesus I gotta get into that how much does a roc cost?
actually ill wiki it
100k ish
I have roc
is it possible to fit a roc in an avenger
Is there a bug with the cargo run? Thought it was just a normal invictus commodities cargo run…
Whats the best mole setup?
Mole is still bugged, so not using one 😛
fireworks still available to trade right>
only ptv i think
PTV too is a tight squeeze
What’s the cheapest ship I could use to transport the roc
nomad
you can rent a ROC & a Cutlass Black from most refinery stations to try first before dropping $1M+
I have about 120k is that enough to rent both
yes
Thanks
Want to learn? I can hop in voice and show you / bring you along on a mining expedition
Can a ROC fit in a constellation taurus? I am thinking of renting a ROC to do some mining but no idea where to start
easily, yes
Anyone got a link to a good guide to start? I don't really know how to mine, or where to sell, lol.
Just gonna wing it
What planet are you closest to?
I'm leaving orison to go rent one somewhere, don't mind travelling
Ah, yeah you can rent at Hurston - Lorville
cool, I'll probs start with 7 days rent to get enough to buy one
should easily do that all going to plan lol
you can earn 140K in about 3 hours if you find 15 or so Hadanite rocks
clusters can be 1-10 rocks each
If you scroll up, I posted a screenshot with 10 Hadanite rocks I found on Daymar
nice, taurus easily has enough space for a roc and a good load? I will look for some hotspot vids lol
thank you
I recommend going to Aberdeen (Hurston moon). It's super hot there though, so you'll need the red+bronze Pembroke undersuit and helmet
anyone know some places to mine with roc?
The ROC has its own cargo hold that fills up after about 30 or so rocks are mined
Ah nice, can you transfer to ship or is it not worth filling for the risk of losing more time and money
You can sell the minerals at the outposts where you spawn the ROC, so there isn't really a need to do it all in one trip
sweet, sounds simple enough
gonna take food and water this time, died of starvation yday lol
anyone wanna go mining together?
I can lead in voice if y'all want to hop in
sure
is the trading rout from magda to a18 with dimond ok?
Did they fixed selling on Orison ?
yes
nice
Is titanium and larranite still a decent profitable trading run? Last time I did it I was getting some of those in beztek outpost and delivering them to hurston
Its bugged? Huh
How come ?
^
???
tell me where tf ur mining NOW
im mostly finding green shit
Aberdeen
But you have to pick it up by hand
Like this
right click to switch modes
Than im doing something wrong i guess, see my screen, once mined you cant extract the small pcs but you have to pick them up by hand. Is the hand mining icon the same as for the ROC? Maybe thats the issue with these small rocks.
Ive just spent 30 min picking them by hand after mining with the roc because couldnt extract
Watafak
Eh
did u get the reddish extraction laser
Dunno
nah default
Yeah extraction beam is red
i think they explode more the more overcharged they are? not sure but seems like it
0 overcharge
anyway maybe server was buggy and not letting u pick up
dunno but was like what the f
How can i obtain the lancet laser if the screens for refinary shop aint working?
watch an roc guide of yt to see whats supposed to happen
Buy it at PO
should be the same as with mining ship
You can buy it from PO dumpers depot
PO?
Crusader

