#industrial-professions
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Hey, try this site: https://sc-trade.tools/home
There you can enter your ship, you current amount of aUEC and whats profitable and how much you will make
I am using it always.
Started with my C2 with simple scraps runs. You need 100k aUEC to make 40k profit. Fly safe o7
Thanks ill bookmark it
Whatβs the best laser head for a prospector
is 4.3 mil enough for the c2?
i got money in refineries extra but i gotta wait like 24hrs
what color is the best ore for roc mining?
Hadanite is the best which is pink.
fuck imm just sitting here looking at my refinery orders crying
if you going for quant lancet
What about if Iβm mining bexalite
idk personally but if you look online im sure you will find the info easily
i just mine quant as its the most valuable resource to mine atm
i mean for time spent mining quant is the best money maker
no mine on lyria then go to arc-l1 easy trip
like 3-4 mins at the max
then store you mining ship as soon as you get into arc-l1 stops the volatility timer
Bex is not worth it because you can only find trace amounts of it in rocks.
I just lost 1.2M aUAE getting double-charged for purchasing trade cargo at Area 18. Anyone know if there's a way to get a refund for this?
Hey everyone i had a question While mining my ROC said "overheating SHutting down" now it wont turn back on... is there a way to get it going again?
So trading fireworks is a waste of time then lol.
Just lost 150 k on trying to buy av cargo at nbis. Be careful.
You might have to haul it back to the pad and repair it or store then get out again.
wow.... got it to the dock and it doesnt even give me the option to store my ship
say i can only claim it
You can make good money trading Fireworks, Souvenirs, Construction Mats, and AV Parts if you're willing to take the risk. If the transactions work right, you can make 100K+ every 10 minutes. However, there's a chance you might get double-charged if a transaction fails on you. Happened to me twice and lose 1.2M out of it. π¦
fuck this game man.. they really did a good job with the increased fps but its still unplayable. I'm about to close my 4th FULL ROC to bugs
see you all next year
to lose*
Anyone try selling refined goods with the server so sluggish?
you can rent the roc and the cutlass at any L1 right?
yes I believe any refinery station
however if you rent it at and L4-L5 in the cargo area you can get it a bit cheaper
something like 27.500 instead of what 35?
is there a pembroke helmet or just a suit?
I think I might get back into ROC mining but Iβll wait for the free fly event to be done. Little to crowded at mining areas for my tasteπ
both
Is mole working again?
Not that Im aware of. Still busted
yea was busted for me last night hole reason i went and bought a prospector

looking to teach new players hmu
which cargo ship should i save up for Buccaneer or Hercules and why?
looking for new players to teach hmu
Of course, I finally save up enough money to get a Prospector and the correct mining head, get some quantanium, and make it back.
And the f*cking refinery kiosk/screen doesn't work
this is really random but can i get a bomber jacket in game anywhere
saw someone wearing one and it looked awesome
Is the avenger titan any good when it comes to cargo running? I'm brand new and it seems like a good ship to save for
At Invictus hall
Too small
Are N and E type asteroids worth collecting if you can't find any Q type? Or do they not sell for much?
the titan imho is more of a going from point a to b and nothing more
False
so the audio visual equipment doesn't make me as much as I expected. bought 2 mil worth and only made 40k
cargo running is when u buy low, go somewhere else, sell high, right?
Aka Trading, yes.
is constellation Taurus good for that
It's a decent option
I rented a prospector and have been trying to mine quantumite, but haven't been having the best of luck with it. Is there another place to go/ore to target until I can buy my own ship and get the miner upgrades that is decent to mine?
If you're having trouble then I recommend you rent a ROC and a ship that can carry one and mine Hadanite instead to raise the funds to buy a Prospector. Renting one isn't that great of an option.
Any good places to mine hadanite?
Daymar and Aberdeen
Anyone got any quant mining tips? Currently im running a lancent mh1 with not modules on a prospector. I mine on Lyria, refine at arc-l1 and use dinyx.
Thanks. Also, any good resource on learning move cargo? I watched a video on 'cargo-stacking' but he said most likely it won't be viable in 3.17
Or the inventory system would be changed
That's all there is to it. If you wanna step it up, try using the Surge and Stampede modules.
I honestly dont lime mining
Im just trying to save up to a c2
I almost had one then a wipe took out a few mil in quant orders
Trading is pretty much on halt cus the word is they're going to rework it. As it stands right now, if you don't have a ship with a large Cargo Hold, then it's almost not worth doing it.
I have a c2 loaner
Refinery jobs get wiped on patches.
Im new and didnt know that
Ive been playing for 4 weeks and so far ive made enough to get a prospector and thats it
I lost quite a few myself. Part of the learning curve.
No clue
Is there any better ways to make money because for the time ive put in i dont have alot to show for it
Everything makes money. Just a matter of how you want to spend your time.
Mining does tend to have the best returns as of right now though.
What do you recommend with a titan and a prospector
Not much options there. You can either run bounties with the Titan or Quant mining with the prospector. Alternatively you can do Bunker missions and level up your rep for better paying missions.
To all professional haulers. Are any of you brave enough to land at a hauling destination with a load and just log out without storing the ship? Is the ship automatically stored in that case?
I think it only works on major cities. Lorvile, Area 18, etc.
I'm extremely skeptical and don't even think about risking it though. Better safe than sorry. Imagine investing 17m on Audio Visual Equipment and trying that to save some time only to log back in and lose all the cargo.
The reason I ask is that I keep landing at various ports and space parts above the major cities to sell at the admin and the elevators in 3.17 have a bad habit swallowing you up into the station geometry to where you can get out. When that happens, I just stand there for 15 or more minutes before I logout to give the ship time to store. If I do that, I don't lose the cargo. The problems is that this elevator glitching is happing about one out of three times now and it waists a shit ton of my time.
Call the elevator and take a few steps back before the doors open
I think that the the loaner ship I have access to (hercules) is one of those bigger cargo ones, but I'm not sure where to even start with making money like that
C2 is the go to ship for trading. It is the biggest ship SCU-wise currently available right now which is ideal for Trading.
I do do that but it still sucks me in. I'm usually about three person lengths away and it still does it. I'll step back even more next time.
Damn. How long does it take a C2 to auto-store?
Im unsure
I take quite a few steps back. If that doesn't work, try doing a test run with maybe 1 SCU of cargo and logging out see if it saves your cargo.
At least the ROC is cheap lol, not just gotta figure out what ot put it in
Well, it'll fit in the c2 at least lol
I usually do Cutty Black + Roc. It's pretty affordable and you can get both on the same station
Is taking the smaller ship cheaper to operate?
And it looks like the rocs are on the l1 stations
You don't wanna go scouting with a C2, trust me.
Anyone else feel the hangar elevator moves slower when you've got quant onboard? π
I think I rented the roc at l1, where do I go to spawn it?
At mining facilities on planets. There's a blue building.
Is there a way to get pembroke helmet without working terminals?
Lorville. Tammany and sons
Thanks, already on it π
I thought CIG fixed the refinery terminals?
Mole still 0.00/0.00?
@gentle acorn nope what?
Wrong tag?
driving a roc on aberdeen is... interesting
wheeee! π
is handmineable stuff only found in caves
they are found on top too, BUT they're rare, and very very hard to detect with ship scanners, you gotta be like...500? 300? meters to see them on scanner. So basically that makes caves the best way to find them
if im buying cargo and it says max available stock, does that mean the next time i come there to buy again there wont be any?
There is a restock rate, but i can't say how fast that is
If you wanna ROC mine and have a C2, also take a Merlin and park it in the hold for scouting
Or a Pisces
For some lols ^^
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Vary intertaining, but I don't agree with his conclusions.
Well as i said mostly for fun π
So based on that video the DS in ROC-DS stand for Deamon Spawn!
Preview is killing it
pfff the commodities machine consol made me pay two loads and credit me. without validating the loading because the console loaded infinitely. this is how i just wasted my morning and lost 730k auec stupid game ....
I farmed shitty missions all morning just to get robbed by a bug on this commodity machine
Oh
Huh, didn't know i could buy stuff to the ship when it's being claimed and still counting down. Was afraid i lost the money, but it had the cargo!
have selling terminals been disabled?
no?
WARNING 3.17.1 is a bug filled hot mess that will suck your soul away.
This is the tradition of CIG for ALL free fly events they hold
!landing
can some one help me with starting to trade stuff around because there are no usefull youtube videos around and i just started so dont know a lot about the game
Trade really isn't in the best place at the moment. It only favors the huge ships. With this new patch there are multiple reports of issues with terminals, loosing aUEC, etc. However, if you want a crash course, this video by Jack Axton from 6 months ago covers most everything you need to know, how to get started, commodities and locations to turn.
EDIT: Currently CIG is smart and disabled all of Scrap. Do NOT buy scrap. There is no available port to sell.
EDIT: There is a mistake on the Astatine table for the MSR. The proper values should be Buy in: 79,800, Profit: 22,800, Profit Per Hour: 68,400. I had an incorrect decimal throwing off values and I apologize for the confusion.
With 3.1...
The two best paying careers at this time in SC is bounty hunting and Mining. But as a warning, because of the Free Fly, the condition of the patch they forced out before being ready and the servers ... it might not go well
What am I supposed to do at the pickup site (ship wreck) in the middle of space? I need to extract a crate
Do I just... exit my ship in space?
Yes.
can you biy the A2 in game?
the sad answer is, its probably bugged
Oh my god...
I had that wreck, but was unable to get through the open door π
the good news is that the derelicts are usually functional, so bugs like these are rarer
unlike bunkers, which are notoriously bugged
5.5M aUEC at the Crusader Showroom
dont think the terminal works
Yes, but not right now because Crusader Showroom's terminal is broken
Here's a "glitch" that you might want to check out for earning aUEC
Edit glitch was fixed
can u still buy it
im trying to buy AV rn
wont let me
From what i read, the mining isn't the most worthwhile if you have more then 1-2 crime rating - the maintenance tasks are worth the most merits
I have a cluster of quant here with nice rocks if anyone wants to grab it. I have enough to fill up my prospector already
I'll stay at the cluster for another 10 mins
then ill leave
Check out sc-trade.tools for comprehensive info on commodities and trading outposts. You can go from there in starting your own trade routes. Just running from the Laranite/Titanium dispensary to the TDD gets old pretty quickly. I've enjoyed post-to-post trading n' looting for a while now.
i am trying to sell my cargo i slecect it and it says its says "awaiting item selction"
any help????
π’
Issue Council #STARC-38161 shows as fixed. Has anyone been able to test out a Mole yet?
im looking for a upgrade to buy after my avenger titan ship something with good cargo cap
IMO, go with a Connie Taurus for a medium hauler for instance.
Freelancer Max 2mill AUEC or $150
Taurus 3.2mill aUEC
That's good too.
C2 Hercules 5mill
With the Connie Taurus you get more cargo space and it's way safer than the freelancers too.
Ah, but you can't fit a ROC inside a Taurus, which you can probably fit two inside a Freelancer MAX ^^
I can't make anything work... I take the cutlas I rented to aberdeen, park on the pad, go to get the ROC and it immediately starts jiggling when I get out of the ship, and then the ship angle has turned so much I can't get back in the ramp. Happened twice in a row
Did you turn off the engines with "i"?
maybe not, will that stop that from happening?
Counsil is down right now. What was the one fixing?
It should. Ships have an annoying tendency to maybe move up abit or around when you leave them with engines on
I did try driving the roc to a rock and trying to crack it, but nothing happened. Do I need to fly around looking for super tiny rocks?
You should watch a tutorial for it, but basically yes. You have smallest hand minable gems, then you have a bit larger gems for ROC, and the largest Ore rocks for prospector\mole
I did watch a tutorial :X that's the worst part lol. Hopefully last question for a while - it sounded like the guy in the tutorial said that the ship scanner will tell you what's in a rock, but when I scan it just tells me the size and stuff. Do I need to change modes or something?
The closer you get the more information you get
To get the composition you need to get within 200 meters for ore...gems abit closer
The mineral capacity showing 0/0 and not allowing you to mine or refine.
yea i got for the freelancer max then i gues he looks good to
Why not?! I can fit 2 inside Andro, certainly 2 can go into Taurus
Some comments on the YT stating this was patched and that people are unable to sell it for more than 1 credit
I just assume the cargo bay elevator won't fit it, i haven't actually tried...so it fits the cargo elevator?
Yes, I run with a crew of 2 ROC, just dropping and picking up moving to new location, while I scout when they mine
Is there a place to track my last transaction? As in, I want to see how much I bought an item for vs. sold it
This time I put down the cutlass, disengage the engine, got the ROC, and the ship was just... gone :( on the plus side, the previous cutlas I did figure out how to get in by flipping the roc and exiting while it was sideways
Like disappeared?
Or floated away because...physics
as far as I can tell it just despawned when I requested the ROC
maybe because I would have 3 things spawned then?
Yes
I'll edit the comment and remove the link then
Only 2 ships/vehicles spawned at a time
wish it had despawned the one was kinda floating away, but at least it was salvageable
I feel like there should be a warning when it's going to do that...but hey... Alpha, amiright?
and in big progress I was able to get the ROC onto my ship! unfortunatly that gave me crimestat but what can you do
I wish the commodity stocks weren't shared across servers.... Makes it so difficult
The limit use to be 3
This game has the worst trade system ever invented. Its not a trade system its a "selling system"
The shared shared commodities are totally messed up however I'm sure it'll be very interesting with 3.18. I'm thinking a wipe then also
picking up stuff and bringing them to major cities and hav nothing to bring in return is something a 5 year old would come up with.
"I've played game on my ti-83 calculator with better trading"
Trade is in a bad place and will remain there until the cargo refactor
There is no career with it at this time. Only small earnings
https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes - use the circular routes option
Not the best, but it's the only tool we have now
All trade favors the huge ships, so small very profitable items are not there yet. Vice is broken also
Aspects of quanta are being implemented (very limited) with 3.17 on just a few items. I'm not seeing that going too well until the 3.18/Alpha 4 stage
3.17.2 will literally be the last version of this game as it is. What shows up in 3.18 will practically be a different game (but not given a new version because they will not change version number until Server Meshing and Pyro rollout)
how did you gain a CS with loading a ROC? Just curious
I think I got a little air on the ramp and damaged the top lid of the loading area
odd, never heard of such. At an outpost on the moon?
yeah, but I mean I think I damaged my cutlass with the roc and got crime for it
I thought they had removed that aspect in a previous patch but 3.17.1 has been a hot mess. I wouldn't doubt that was accidently stuck back in the code
On MISC day, if you can rent a MAX, give that a whirl for ROC escort. That's what I've been using for a few years. Excellent RORO (roll-on, roll-off) with that wide ramp
if I make it that long lol. I've been trying to play for 3 days and haven't been able to do one single thing successfully
I hear you, it's sad that for Free Fly the patches are historically garbage
I landed by a gem rock to see if I could mine it, and destroyed the front left section of the cutlass, trying to see if I can get it repaired at the mining place, but I think I might not be able to repair because armistice privileges are revoked
1
that's a fine you can pay if you can find a console. You shouldn't encounter deadly force for that
I don't think I can quantum travel with this damage, or at least destinations don't seem to pop up correctly
on your HUD you should be able to bring up your ship components to check the status. Make sure your QT is powered on. If you had changed it, that might be an issue
Do people really use CRU-L1 for the 3% yield on Quant when mining on Lyria?
No, normally ARC-L1 because of the distance.
CRU-L1 is normally used by Halo miners
The 3% bonus is pretty nice
Oh, quantum fail button isn't lit up, so if I can fly straight enoguh I might be able to get somewhere
depending upon location, that might be very long trip. You can log out and then back in. That might be a better bet
Yeah that makes more sense
You can hit m to see the exact time left bottom left cornner
He's talking about Quantum travel
lol
picked up damage on his cutty and not sure the QT works
Quant on my brain π
it stays on my brain. Nice ROC mining is back so I can change up a little
Yeah, I don't get any targets other than aberdeen so I thought the drive might have been broken
check your map to make sure you are still not only aimed for Aberdeen
Clear your jump map
Yeah, I set hurston as target and just flew away from planet till I could see it
F2, look to make sure you're not still holding a set course
Ah, I meant I was able to get it
that was when the Trade bug for medical supplies was running
Is there a good trade route that always has demand? One that you can repeat forever?
nah its real lol
Scrap from TDD in A18 to ARC-L1 makes about 20K per hop
Gold from Lyria (honeyridge or the other) to TDD
I heard people saying 'scrap is broken', whatever that means
that's old news, scrap has been fixed since 3.16
There are only 5 places that take scrap in for purchase though
It use to be PO, but no longer
The buyers are Cru L5, Hur L5, Mic L1, Arc L1
I'm just sharing what I know works. Sometimes what is reported by the SC servers, which is data mined by trade sites (and I do like SC trade tools, great site) isn't always dependable
You buy scrap in two places in Area18 - admin and TDD. TDD has a greater volume. The amount you earn is depended upon the ship. I use a C2, so that's what my return estimate is based on
I'm not
The AV exploit might be resolved now though
With a C2, you bought at 17M aUEC and sold at 34M aUEC
it's not an exploint. It's an actual trade route. Buy AV for $250, sell for $500
Good return for a 25 minutes run
Correct, "Bug" is more accurate, my apologies
more like a feature to me. π
LOL, heard that
my wallet last night vs right now
How are you selling for $500, understock only pays 252
it's not advertised, but if you go to Orison Admin, it buys AV for 500
is there any reason i shouldn't buy cargo if my ships cargo bay has a vehicle in it?
It's called a bug, the terminal sold for 2x what you had. You had a 100% return
It can work, but you'll could glitch out, but it will certainly be way less cargo you can haul (if any)
I think the bug has be squashed
i did a full 96 scu run with my roc in the bay, but i'm scared to try again lol
only 40 seconds to claim the ROC, back her out and drop it
yeah i'm at a18, guess i'll go to orbit, and uhh.. drive it off and hopefully not explode
last time i tried driving a vehicle off in space everything got real dark
You can go to bejini, land then back it out. it will get impounded and you're good
request landing for the ship though
yeah that's not a bad idea
is av really only selling for 252, meaning that you get 4xfull ship of scu for the trip, is that really what cargo running usually makes?
AV had a bug where you got a 100% return. So that might be why it is showing that
oh is it still doing that?
many claim it is not
I haven't tried and most reports that it worked, like @tawny pecan , was from yesterday
My last offload was 2 hours ago bought 17 Mil of AV and sold it for $34M
I'm going to keep running until it no longer works for me. Maybe hit 1 Billion auac LOL
Wait, I went to everest and they wouldn't let me land, then self detructed and woke up on grimhex, and had no crime stat... until I got to daymar. How can I pay my fine if I can't go to a terminal?
gotta pay it at grimhex
is hurL2 the one with quant refine bonus?
trying to have a dedicated window for SC
Just sold another $34M load at Orison! π€ π€ π€
and now I can't get into the new cutlass cause the ramp access buttons are broken :X
buying at A18?
yep
There is an inventory limit, but it refreshes after a while just like every other trade terminal
Do you have to press anything for trade terminals to refresh, or does the new stock update automatically?
I heard that you were quite the Charitable man..... π
I'm saving up to buy every ship in the game, but if you need help I can shoot you some cash
Oh no i was only joking, but every ship in the game? have you calculated how much that would cost?
Please sir. a morsel of cash π₯Ί
Sure, take this penny
Im guessing you are using the C2?
Yes, C2
is there a way to see details on your current cargo from an MFD or mobiglass menu?
not that I'm aware. Only from a trade terminal
terminal let me load up c2 but when I got back to spaceport, the asop terminal was not finished claiming. not sure if the cargo actually stuck
have you ever loaded a ship that was still in claims?
Yea, it sometimes lets you load a ship that is in the process of being claimed
just wait for it to finish and retrieve it. it should have all the cargo
So to buy every vehicle in the game I need $295M. Might have to go for it. π€£
Oh god, after you said that, I checked my cargo hold and it's empty. That's every penny I have gone
how did you check it?
i did a cargo run my first just a few hours ago
and nothing was in the cargo bay
except my roc, that i may or may not have forgotten was in it
but when i got to orison, it showed on the trade terminal, and i sold it
so i bought air for 1.2m and sold it for 2.5m
Yea. Cargo on C2's is not showing in the hold
I don't own a C2, it's another ship
i did it with aconnie
can anyone sell AVE at orison or did they make it impossible
about to land and try now will let you know
cause I cant for some reason
thats odd...trying now
if the inventory is red, you have to just wait for it to refresh and turn white
how long is the refresh then?
the stores in refineries are down? or just Arc L1
woop woop, only took 8 hours, but successfully mines 5 usc of aphorite
also can you use more than 1 mining gadget on a rock at a time?
yes
is there a reliable out of game tool to search shop inventories
!itemfinder
Use the website to search for any item (and where to buy them) in-game.
can you get negative resistance
?
with mining lasers
also any tips on mining big rocks with gadgets
or is the only way double surge
why can i not sell my stuff
Inventory is drained, just wait until it refreshes and turns white
how long does that take
like 5 - 15 minutes typically
so i just need to stay on this screen for 5/15 minutes
IF anyone needs help selling im down, have nothing lol
What are some ships other than the C2 for cargo runs. I am just using the Constellation Taurus right now
catepillar
is there some one who has to much money and who wants to help me buy a new cargo ship i want to buy the freelancer max
If I sever hop and have cargo stored in my ship (ship is also stored), will said cargo disapper?
no i just tested it
oof
So, I can't sell some items and someone told me it's because they're already full. How long would I have to wait before being able to sell my items?
Also, if I log off, will my cargo still be there?
i gues so if you can log off from the server and rejoin that its still there then you can also leave the hole game i think
was this physical cargo or trade cargo?
trade cargo
Trade terminal inventories max out and drain and automatically replenish themselves every 10-15 minutes. you just have to wait and keep checking the terminal, they will replenish eventually
Thx π on to waiting then
note that trade inventories are GLOBAL, you can't server hop and get a different inventory.
inventory has refreshed, sell sell sell!
Just as I left to bring a 2nd load over...
i just sold my cargo but the game says its still in there but i got my money already XD what
that's just a visual bug. it gets cleared once you leave
not sure. I think terminal
well it was still there when i left the terminal
hey are the Scrap yards/ Drug houess still bugged?

when did the servers last refresh?
Where would one go about buying the C2
You can buy them at Orison Crusader showroom or at Area 18
Thank you now to save up the big bucks for it
SELL
If you're a big baller you can get the m2 at loreville
M2?
The blue C2
aint a big baller yet but we will get there
ah
well if some one would help me to finance the freelancer max that would help a lot XD
Whenever I refine my cargo how come I canβt store it back in my prospector?
the aurora can't carry any cargo yet, it's waiting on a small version of the raft cargo containers
I'd upgrade to a freelancer. or just melt and buy the freelancer gamepackage. It carries 66 SCU
Is the Av equipement cargo stuff disabled at ARea18 ?
if I'm trying to sell cargo and the price is red, that means they can't buy more atm right?
Yeah
That means the market is saturated rn
that's what I thought
Too many people buying and selling
Just wait about ten more minutes
So should I relog or just wait in front of it ?
I have 400k in av right now waiting to double it LOL
it's demand is very low, and supply is very high
lol
just wait
Switch regions it should work
ok
Aussies are sleeping right now go make your money
I said ok to you lol
it doesn't matter how many servers you switch
welp
I hope they fix this shit with cargo refactor
or a way to see it without hauling all the way to the destination just for it to not sell
Where are you guys buying and selling the AV for
after I complete a work order and move it the RAFT, I can't access that inv in the trade console?
What trade console are you using?
What location
will try, thanks
holy hell, I don't have the patience for this 
Ok thx
Idk how much the free Lancer is but the Taurus carries 96SCU
Might be better in the long run
Oh shit wait it carries more than the andromeda?
ofc
a lot more yes.
its made for that
the taurus is the hauling variant.
Makes sense
omg I'm gonna strangle someone if I can't sell these av shit soon
i literally have 117 auec rn
ahaha
Lol have you tried switching regions
i'm too lazy to fuck with that 
bro never invest all your life saving on one thing
It probably won't work but worth a shot
hell nah i live for high risk high reward
I'm gonna try swapping servers
It just worked for me
I was on aus server and it was read
Red*
Switched to eu and sold full c2 worth of AV
Keep trying
It's gg's. Lowlifes in every game.
so I bought a prospector to try my hand at mining
on lyria rn having a hard time finding a quantanium deposit above 5%
what % should i be looking for?
noo lol
Why dont u go in the Aaron's Halo
I feel like theres much more stuff there
the quant goddess is with me tonight lads 
even if this server's global chat doesnt work lol
i mighta spoke too soon...
the mining rate not rising or dropping
after surge
If your at a cargo terminal with selected cargo waiting for stock to refresh, will it refresh automatically or do you have to 1) click off the commodity to another and back 2) click between buy and sell 3) get out of the terminal and back in. What's the least thing you can do to get the refresh when it happens?
what's the cheapest medium freighter?
Why can I still use rented ships after they expire?
has anyone ever had partial 30k where everything freezes like a 30k but it never kicks you?
if i wait long enough will it kick me with 30k protection?
has anyone ever waited it out and got kicked? i am pretty sure if I relog I lose all my cargo
ooh shit nvm it actually just kicked me with 30k. thank fk. i had been waiting like 30 minutes
Does anyone know what kind of cargo the Aurora CL can carry?
Consider Hull A
Or freelancer MAX
ok thx
is the price in red?
They are out of it then.
I am wondering this as well
can you buy hull A in game?
fml
after i set the refinement, i can go back out in the same ship right? like itll be empty cause the refinery is "holding" all the material?
yo what happens if i need to log out with cargo in my ship? like if i log out in a city does it hold it? just picked up cargo
store the ship and you should be good
if i havent even retrieved it yet should it still be fine?
yea, you just dont want to log out with it in the verse
im guessing the AV bug is still working?
When they have it in stock, yes
nice, i just mined 27scu of quant. but dunno the process now lol. once its in the refinery its "stored" there right? so i can take the prospector back out?
yup if it is being refined it can stay there for as long as you want even affter it completes
you can queue up multiple jobs too
ok cool. heading back out lol. and general rule of thumb is its worth double the unrefined price right?
yeah take the volume you are going to have at completion and multiply that * 88
oh, i didnt see the refined volume :(. unrefined it was going to sell for like 180k i think
good load
it was a 31% 5k mass rock,with a really good break
i think 5 of the extracted pieces were 100%
nice, those are fun like that
makes up for the hour i searched the other night and couldnt find anything over 2% lol
Is recommended build for Prospector still as low EM and IR as possible?
Basically just a good quantum, shield and mining laser and the rest is removed
Stealth is not really working now so I wouldn't bother tbh
Is it possible to put mining lasers on a Connie?
Lmao
Only mining ships can have mining lasers, basically only Prospector and Mole right now
Lol I know it seems like a silly question, but I have 3 ROC's running on the ground mining, I want to simply be able to extract the commodity
So essentially, I want to be a giant vaccum
did they disable the audio visual equipment?
probably just sold out. and have your qt set and spooled before leaving armastice. just had a griefer in my server. launched missles as soon as i hit armastice.
how do i see how long till it refreshes?
so just chill by the console and check here and there?
gotta risk it for the biscuit!!
yea basically
started at 2m should be doing 17m runs by the end of the night woooooo
I imagine they will roll that stuff back once they catch on
10 cluster of quant colored rocks, unscannable fml
this makes around the 4th cluster i couldnt scan
Zaku been combin the desert for hourrssss
i have been at it for at leaat 2hrs in halo
earlier i had 3 good hits close to my QT dropout
im prob gonna stop for the night lol

Servers are a dumpster fire with Invictus on, not surprised to hear the Halo has alot of unscannables

i have held off mining during invictus, but i needs the cash. this is my first day back mining
and my game froze
yep im done
lol
heh griefer at both planets. too bad missles dont follow qt
... game crashed, opened back up in space piloting prospector 
Whatβs all this AV equipment cargo hubbub Iβm hearing about?
stuffs soldout
Buy AV equipment at area18 admin for 250 and sell it at Orison Admin for 500. Do the math.
can use a free rented connie to make 2.5m each run
What are mining gadgets? Are they new and which one (if any) is used for Quant? I imagine Sabir or none?
I like Boremax myself, can crack big rocks with it
Guys i got some cargo, but i canβt sell it, its signed like in red, why its like that?
because everyone else sold the station too much, you gotta wait for it to refresh in 15-20min
Oh okay, so if i store my ship here even changing server wonβt delete my cargo right?
right, it'll be safe
Okay, cool, ty so much dude
is the sale global or serverwide?
global
right, so no point in switching servers
everyones making so much money any one get really sweaty when u have to land at orison and things start lagging a bit 
I usually donβt, but if you donβt mind spending a bit of money it can be a nice bonus when you sell it
spend money to make money ig
i'm standing here looking at this sell window while it's red sweating... lol
just change server or wait it out
happened to me
i hear it's global, not server that determines supply, that not true?
i dunno i changed server 2wice and it worked for me
maybe i got lucky
lol, griefer got mad he couldnt kill me in space. so he followed me down and rammed me at the port
he means server as in, go from usa...to eu...or au
ohhhhhh
even worse, this guy was at area 18
like...you sure showed me...since i didnt have anything on the ship
lol
i been coming into orison scoping the place out like i'ma bout to sell drugs
bout to start hiring gunners
im confused on how they are at the space port if they have crimestats....
like i was half way in the bay and he rolled right up and rammed me
what makes you think they have a crime stat?
shows red hostile. and hes obviously been trying to get people
oh they were red
yea. everytime im red...stations shoot me...but he just casually strolls down
av equipment hotpatch fix in?
not yet
You expect one?
very fast
not really since i havent gotten a run in yet lol
from experience with a previous situation similar?
the last credit bug took a month for them to patch. and they only did it with 17.1
yeah they fix these types as fast as possible
like the last one was within a couple days
you mean ship dupe?
what last one?
Itβs not available to purchase anymore
infinite selling of ship parts
how much cargo space does the Taurus have?
andromeda has 96. so should be around there?
taurus is more iirc
Did anyone manage to buy the cargo in the last 30mins?
Yeah i had to wait like 25 to sell tho
nah Taurus is the cargo variant
ye it's working
been waiting more than the usual 10-15 minutes for restock
maybe 30mins even
perhaps theyβre rolling out the fix across servers
174 i believe
nah word prolly just spreading like wild fire and you're competing with others more so now
usually you should be able to buy immediately when it restocks
my past 2 times buying it i had a wait a few
so the hull A is coming next update?
are you using trade tools?
or is it already in?
It's been in pretty sure
never heard of it tbh
mhm
It came out in 3.17
that I'm not sure. for pledge, yes
were you able to buy it?
anyone know why I cannot sell my cargo?
what are good cargo runs rn?
that still working?
Anything specific I should do for a Freelancer MAX setup? Just using to haul cargo, the quant I mine specifically
area 18 to hurston right?
i checked the yt vid and someone commented still working 1hr ago
area 18 audio visual supplies to orison
when filling up with refined minerals, do you have to have the ship on the pad first or can you have it stored in location?
You have to have it stored, it wonβt show up if itβs on the pad
thatβs for stations, but the pad will work on mining stations (on the moons)
(for selling)
Ok. Is this audio visual supplies run a bug? Or did they intend for it to be like this?
Whole game is a bug at times
But the profit margin seems like a bug
Then again the 9 Tails med supply run last event paid huge too so not sure tbh
where is the trading terminal at orison?
Just paid 2 million for some cargo, it said transaction failed. Took the 2 million and gave me nothing
3k mass at 36% quant worth it?
anything above 25 is good
my issue is orison admin isn't buying what i have even when jumping to different server regions
i just sold some
av equipment?
yep
i already hopped regions 3 times and every one isn't buying
stock is shared server wide so hopping servers won't help
hopping servers workers for me. sometimes i need to hop multiple times.
Hopping servers worked for me when I tried buying
what method do you guys use to refine for max profits?
ferron exchange
It is a coincidence, they are all on a timer.
yeah def possible, i may have just gotten lucky
I mean, it is literally a static timer with a refresh. The trading sites will have the quantities: https://sc-trade.tools, and they refresh like every half hour. I can't remember the exact timing.
Anyone have any ideas on why I cant access any terminals in the refinery to buy mining heads?
Its a bug. Buy your mining stuff from Tammany and Sons, Lorville
have hopped servers like 6 times already and they never are buying
aqnybody want to make the argument that a side door on the starfarrer wouldn't be a good thing?
aka a side door to the cargo bay?
20 if you're down bad, maybe even high teens depending on how bad
Under 18 if you want a court case
Reading that without context is sus lol
if I purchase AV supplies, while my ship is still in hangar. Will the cargo not show up in my ship?
how long till the terminals usually reset?
Please go and upvote this previously reported issue so it can get fixed?
@marsh anchor this chart shows the pros and cons of different methods - bottom line, Dinyx offers the greatest yield for cheapest price but takes longest. They all give a tradeoff between time, price, and yield depending on which are most important for you
wouldnt dinyx just be the best then?
what does time matter
if you just have a constant flow
Assuming you've got almost 24hrs to wait for it
in case you want the cash now to buy your ship etc
lol it's up to you man, idk why you're asking me
you can read the chart and make the best decision for yourself
dinyx is the best if you can be bothered to wait 24 hours to get your money
exactly
let's say you want to get your yield during this gaming session, you might start a bunch of Ferron jobs going
or you could stagger jobs as you commission them so they will end at the same time and you get your proceeds simultaneously
up ta you
currently have 29scu of quant refining with dinyx as we speak π
consensus is Dinyx best for most efficient long term savings
do we know if they have fixed the mole yet?
@marsh anchor one precaution - in the past, incomplete jobs sitting in refineries have been wiped during game patch updates. So people often claim all theirs before the patch comes out or pause mining/refining beforehand
last I heard still can't extract/store ore
well poop. was hoping to get a crew together soon lol
prospector is nice though. just havent been very lucky on the halo
I keep dying because i get bored and start drifting with my prospector
lol not quite the most agile ship
honestly, it flies much better than i thought it would lol
I always forget how strong the thrusters are and how bad it is at stopping
is mining bugged, keep extracting with no cargo
MOLE is
last i saw mole and sometimes the roc
bummer
if your in a roc. manually pick up a gem and put it into the inventory
then it should work
Yea im heading to grab my roc to find gems, the mole is frustrating solo
whats mole
big mining ship
New Deal, Lorville
"Multi Operator Laser Extractor"
https://starcitizen.tools/MOLE
got a friend with a prospector?
aren't you disallowed from using the storage on another person's ship?
Security may also potentially flag you as driving a stolen ship
prospector flies ahead and cracks everything. while roc picks them up
no im alone lol
much faster than cracking/picking with roc alone
if i wasnt about to hit the bed, i would help. doing it that way you can get like 250k for 30-45 minutes
oh im not able to play rn anyway
Pulled roughly 150scu of quantanium out of the halo today. I love it there. π
The last run my game crashed during QT back to the refiners. ... It's kinda intense if you spawn outside your ship and you have to impount on the last "I'm about to blow up"-alarm. 
i once spawned in my ships walls after crashing
apparently when ur partially clipping the ceiling u can walk on air
or maybe ur head thats clipping ceiling is doing the walking idk
I spawned half inside, half outside. ... Well... better than spawning in the station, knowing that your ship is lost. XD
Doesn't matter much in the long run... but loosing 32scu of Quant still hurts when it happens. XD
your ship moves to the spot where it's supposed to leave Quantum. ... And you better have Friends to scoop you up ... otherwise you'll most likely suffocate
btw why does mining power indicator update at like 2fps
Have a mole with quantanium in it and it does not show up in the refinery terminal. Any fixes?
wdym?
mole is broken
Sure it has Quant in it? XD ... The Mole can't scoop anything atm. They messed the ship up with the last patch.
doesnt actually extract anything/hold it
welp thats nice
The Mole is only usable to crack Rocks atm. ... to extract anything you need a friend with a Prospector. π¦
or 3 friends with prospectors...lol
2 factors:
- it got rushed for Invictus
- Not enough players play PTU ... Obviously nobody went mining with a mole in PTU ... otherwise this bug would have been at least on the know issues list.
It affects enough people. Pretty sure it'll be fixed quickly.
when was the last patch
3.17 came out a few weeks ago
3.17.1 came out friday π
o they updated right as free fly dropped?
yea
seems abit risky lol
it broke so much stuff for new people too lol
yea if ur gonna get a wave of new players it might be a good idea to use old players as guniea pigs maybe for a few days xd
this was one of the fastest x.1 drops I've seen with this amount of content - I think they had to break their plan for 3.17 into two waves
the ship claim bug killed it for alot of potential new players. they only had the free pisces. then couldnt claim it. left alot of stranded at ports
they also got WAY more users for this free fly than IAE 2951 or Invictus 2951, so they've been scrambling to keep up with server load and player demand
silver lining is they're getting some good stress testing lol
@rugged axle true, but it looks to have been addressed now so I hope a few have stuck around
plus many places have a long weekend this weekend, so I anticipate more will log on during that
well sure that's another issue, but I haven't had an error retrieving ships at ASOP since the hotfix
when was the hot fix? i had it yesterday. had to jump to eu to claim it.which gave me my 10th copy lol
i did a char reset cuz of that lmao
https://status.robertsspaceindustries.com/
they've been pushing them regularly since Sunday, my friends and I haven't had retrieval issues since the Sunday hotfix but that might be anecdotal
I have had trouble with some rented ships but had that same issue during the last IAE - haven't had it affect pledge ships since then
my biggest issue right now is the quantum bug
but that goes back to your previous point of a poor experience for new players if they can't play with free rented ships
?
what's the quantum bug??
ah, yall have been lucky
Money steal?
no no, quantum travel
you set up a point, hit quantum....it takes you to no where
yes we know what quantum is, I haven't seen any quantum bug on the issue council
lost 3-4 bounties from it
you got a council link? anyone else replicating that?
i know my friend had it happen to him
so nowhere as in, you enter a void? or you just don't move?
and my other friend was in my hurricane turret. from his POV. we were just sitting still not going anywhere
my POV was non stop quantum. f2 showed us going the opposite way as our set point
from the drivers POV, its a never ending jump, until you log out.
cant cancel it or anything
because the game doesnt think your actually jumpinh
did you get an error? I'm seeing some reports of an "error 30009"
should i change the default ROC mining laser?
no errors. just forced to log out. then claim your ship{hence why i have 10 copies of the gladius lol}. was hard grinding bounties
even if u cut ship power?
yep, tried it. tried killing qt, killing normal engines. just keeps going on your screen
I haven't seen any reports of a similar issue on the IC for this patch within the last week. You should make one if you've had this happen more than once
can a roc help me crack a rcok i cant by myself in a prospector ?
yea, ill try and get some screen shots if it happens again
depends how close you are vantu. a 2nd prospector would obviously be better
could always try the mining gadgets for extra help
is Dinyx a new one?
Honestly, IWL is a tough time to be mining due to all the bugs and activity right now.
is the pickup laser thing on roc more responsive outside of IWL
you'd just have to test that, I think the rocks in general are a bit annoying to pick up but I haven't done it during ILW
But this event is causing tons and tons of bugs so I wouldn't be surprised if it's at least somewhat worse
i sometimes have to wait a 2-3seconds to pick up a gem in roc
I think it's just detection issues, not a huge deal but it could be lag/desync from the servers crying because too many people
well at least I wasted my auec in alpha on mining
now I know how mind numbingly boring it is
what is the best QT drive for the starfarrer?
How long does it usually take for Orison's terminals to accept sells?
usually instant? But seeing the..influx of AV goods atm might need to refresh
Worst case, region hop
i should be good to relog so long as I'm landed right?
anyone use spreadsheets to keep track of trade profits? deciding if i want to make one
if so may i possibly use it as a template so i can get an idea 
I made something pretty simple today. No frills
yes, if you stored your ship, it's safe
thanks I'll make sure I'm stored
It should also store your ship automagically when you return to menu when it's landed on a pad\hangar, but SC being SC, better just store manually.
troofs
using this for the AV supplies rn
thanks 
no need if you double your money each time lol
true
store manually... they dont really auto store anymore
yeah not really necessary but I don't blow my whole load lol
build it up until you have a full load
and then blast away
or look for some investors.
you need help?
i can provide some capital for 10% interest
lol
would be nice if I could get orison to actually buy lol
you know I hadn't thought of that as an actual way to earn some passive income
loan sharking lol
lol
its whats banks do anyway
For the love of god who started the roumor that trade is regional again?
how often does the server tick and let me sell again
trade isnt regional?
Global
yeah stock is shared globally so region hopping doesn't help
so laranite we have until server refresh and its dog eat dog?
huh, i tought it was regional?
No someones been spreading that around recently appearntly since 3.15 which is bogus
Did it use to be regional, and they changed it, or has it always been global?
3.10-ish it changed to regional, 3.12 global
does this mean a commoditys price is same everywhere?
Yea they dont really flux that much outside of the Journal ones, and those are global
so whats the point of cargo running then
Point is profitsssS?
You can still do it in some places
but no where near the "profits" people normally talk about outside of stuff like the AV thing going on atm
but you see how that spreads.
someone posts it online and it turns to shite lol
should i do av? xd
You basically double your money.
IF you can actuall sell it
like in transaction processing?
No as in waiting to be able to actually sell the items
I've done it twice today with no issue, but i'm poor so only sold like 10-20 SCU. Game owes me alot from ROC crashes losing my hadanite, so i have zero issues with this myself. Though i can see this creating the feeling that money has no value, and your hard grind for x time is worthless
r there like queues as the terminal?
I'm starting to see alot more people in Area 18 in white suits atm...heh
Best shops, best fps in general
Lol
Not orison
Lyria close
Iβd say no. Because of the big convention that is Invictus, theyβre paying a premium for AV equipment!
Most likely a bug. I mean they are kinda dumping on the time and efforts players have with earning spacebucks, and i can't imagine that being what they want so....
is the audio visual equipment bug fixed yet ?
nah
if its a bug they are reacting to it reallllllllllll slow
most likely not a bug but just a wrong value for cargo someone put in by mistake
probably not a bug. It works for construction materials too. at the same place
Holdup, I didn't run cargo in a while, what are construction mats and av?
right now if you buy at area 18
and sell are orison
you double your money
and it costs 17mil to fil a c2
so you sell for 35 mil
This basically
just don't spend ALL ur money on buying cargo
unless u wanna join the gang of ppl who crashed and lost cargo and had 10 credits left
Lol
haha i have had to bail out 3 friends tonight for that
lmao
That's the reason I only have 140k in the first place π
I hear there was a hot fix last night, I take it they fixed the trade prices?
Im curious about something...
Did anyone use to do that specific route before the bug was discovered?
nope
Is hauling AV equipment and fireworks to Orison worth?
if you get lucky and can actually sell the AV equipment ya
I'm new to cargo, I followed a trade route suggestion on sctt - Says to sell 500 slam at Beautiful Glen but it won't buy any?? I'm at the no questions asked terminal
no space for them to buy
Damn, does it refresh often?
lol the refresh time is on that site but you gotta remember theres a couple thousand people probably doing it at the same time
Yeah it doesn't show a time or anything, do I just stand at the terminal or log out or something
Hi guys, what does this mean?
It means station is full. Gotta wait a couple minutes until the stock depletes
or is that buy?
buy
Then other way around
fair enough, thank you π
anybody able to sell the audio things in orison yet or is it buged for pretty much everybody?
Not being able to sell it isnt bugged, its not sellable cause youve got thousands of people doing it at the same time
Meanwhile nobody is selling laranite anymore nyehehehehe
ima sit above a18 or orison shooting down c2's in a tali
someone bounced a rocket off me while heading to Orison. the C2 is a fun beast. it just shrugged it off nevr looking back π
But yes, I dont believe this is a bug at all. people referenced it happening at a previous event too.
Well it got 2 S3 shields so it should π
lol yeah upgraded too. for a minute there I thought "Whelp, here it goes. 17Million lost" but nope.
Is it true that the construction mats work like the AV equipments ?
Oh ok but if your bank account is smaller then u should go for the Construction mats bc theyre always available
yeah, they do run out too, but it seemed there was always one or the other availabe.
Havent seen them out of stock yet but ur probably right