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No, if you get the no power issue, do a power cycle on the ship
I haven’t - been using it for a while now
it could, but any can't get to their body markers because it keeps moving
I am not worried about distance, just looking for speed and respool once I have a load of q and headed to the barn
The Prospector has a bug that when you change out the QT engine, the first time you try to use it it will report no power.
is there any way for my cargo to be recoverable?
The VK-00 or the Siren (second fastest) are both very good.
Not if you can't locate a physical ship to take control of
should I upgrade anything else?
so 9600 laranite down the drain
shields or cooler?
ouch, yeah, I'm sorry. If it was a 30k you should be able to retrieve your ship. But since it is showing unknown, the heartbeat must not have recorded it's location before the crash
i didnt crash i died going down the stairs it was just sitting there
I run everything stock on my Prospector except for laser head and QT engine. You can go for a reduced EM signature if you're going to be mining on the planet surface
it know that its at the mining base
That exact same thing happened to me, I was able to get back and get into the ship
well i guess my game crashing after it happend is probably why 😎
catch a ride back and claim it possibly? if you know the exact spot
oh, yes, that would cause a despawn of the ship
oh it despawned
"long term persistance"
at an outpost?
the only solution is finding the exact same server you were on origionally
Once we have PES (persistent entity streaming) this should not be an issue any longer, but that will be next year
more like 2050
No, it's on the roadmap for testing at the end of this year
And they also had success in early internal testing
Did you not read the Letter from the Chairman?
PTU by the end of the year possible release
True Tem
it was a joke
I misunderstood the retort, sorry. Joke taken!
so I have had your issue before, spent hours looking for a way and in the end it was just more wasted time, better to just write it off and get back to the grind
I think the most I lost at one time was about 2M aUEC in one crash of the server
I'm not sure I trust the servers at the moment with Free Fly, so I'm reluctant to do any mining per se.
I might run some trade routes
If you run up and down the stairs in the squat position, that can help prevent death by stairs. I started doing that after the stairs killed me
its pretty stable actually, been mining all day. Might do a few more after I upgrade this thing
been testing asteroid mining and scan distances
it's kinda crazy how far you can ping rocks and their types
the only issues I have noticed is since the .1 Q seems a bit more scarce in the halo
BIG TIME
ditto, I've been finding tons of quant, but their percentages have all been super low
exactly my experience
before .1 I was seeing 30+ some 45s and even a 50 now I do good to string 2 20s together
Yeah, some college intern messed with the programing, I'm very confident
that's what happened a year ago with trade, stayed hosed for over a year until CIG's hand got pushed
6 rocks... only 1 had more than 6% and it was only 13% -_-
that's a crime
just gonna have to break this 13.88%'er cuz I've been floating too long
I think I'm going to submit an issue council ticket if there isn't already one about that
Just return it to what it was in 3.16
@north oyster I was saying earlier, that I've been fooling with the ping system. I don't think it'll be as useful on moons/planets (since in general 2+ stacks means quant more or less) BUT, you can scan asteroid types in the halo as far out as 11k m. This way you can pass on clusters that aren't quant.
how do you accomplish this trick?
oh lol, its just 3% too big to haul home in my ship 😦
you ping, at range so you get a diamond for the rock. Then as you're looking you swap to your mining arm
knew I shouldnt have come in the pisces
it'll give a preliminary scan of the rock type
Ok, I'll try that then, thanks
(Q-type) being quant
that works, I always do that up close (under 1K) but hadn't thought to try it at max range
@north oyster that was at like 9k m out
but I tested a bit, and the scans begin some distance between 11k m - 11.3k m
excellent find, thanks for sharing!
nice for sure
for sure! was able to avoid quite a few type M, E and P clusters
I'll have to give it a try. I'm going to go back through the bands and start testing again as to best bands for quan and %
I have a feeling the more sparse the band the more quant -_-, it WOULD be them to ruin us this way lol
Also helps you avoid duds too, because if it doesn't scan there it won't when up close
I honestly was thing the exact thing
yep!
had a few of those too
i needed to confirm the range though in case I just wansn't close enought
was trying a bit of testing but didnt see much difference
Bank 1 use to be my happy place for just this reason
dont you say that.... Goonies never say Lyria
what is best upgrades for a mole?
yeah dont mine now, something on the sever just happened and everyone can see everyones icons
like we are all grouped
yea i no that just looking at what to put on a buy list so i can upgrade them
sorry that wasnt directed at your question, I honestly dont know for the mole
oh ok hahaha
I know there are some major issue with mole mining right now tho
Fucking mood
what do the containers they sell in the Cargo yards do?
out of curiosity is there any info when prospector will be able to drop the pods and let a cargo ship pick them up to keep mining? I haven't checked in on SC for like 6 months.. after they got rid of roadmaps
Weeeelll!! Just broke my own record! 1 hour and 37 minutes scanning in Lyria with NO quantanium deposits found. I'ma go do something else before I lose my mind. 🙃
whats a good mining ship
prospector
lol, it's the only mining ship right now
Forgot the mole eh
did they fix the bug that has been preventing it from extracting ore all weekend?
looks like the issue is still live
so right now if we want to mine, gotta go with Prospector or ROC
where should you mine quant? people say lyria, but other people say the belt
I like HUR-L4 or what ever the one near CRU-L1 is
I'll give HUR l4 a go
only just getting back into this since a few months. Came here to ask about buying mining components on the refinery decks. I kept getting a glitch where the shop terminals weren't working last night, no matter how many stations I visited or servers swapped to. Is this common atm?
Trying to purchase the Pemberton suit for extreme conditions, seems like all terminals at refineries are bugged
Anywhere else I can buy this?
Heh, just saw this, same issue
Nice to know I'm not alone.
I'm still bummed they wiped out my 4mil worth of quant that I had orders for.
Someone said one of the stores in Lorville but cannot confirm.
You can buy it directly in the store, it is physically there too, so approaching it allows you to buy it, but i think the orbital stores are missing helmet, so Lorville it is.
Now you know what to expect for patches.
Is it common that the wallet gets wiped? Logged out yesterday with 2.8 million but only have 87k today.
It happens too often
I see it that cig “battles” glitched unfair money just by deduction of income of all players
Back to the grind then 🙂
Actually know that I had that exact amount of money in my wallet at one point since I logged in excel before starting my mining career
So it seems to have gone back to an old entry somehow
Anybody had issue with ROC extraction just bunching the items you grab at end of vehicle?
Instead of going into cargo?
I wish they would fix the Damn terminal screens in the refinery decks so i can buy my Lancet and modules so i can actually do some mining
you can buy them on the planetary stores on hurston
just go to the clothing store on loreville
Area 18 TDD at ArcCorp
120 scu
1000 units per SCU
thank you
100 per scu
I had my aUEC go to 0 one day. But I tried relogging and it restored
I have relogged and done a reset, pretty sure I am screwed. But I will survive 🙂
Oh for anyone who wants to mark quantanium deposits you can take a box mission before setting out drop the box off near the deposit and if you die or loose it you can see the box location and be back where you left off
Best loadout for the prospec?
Can you QT to those boxes?
Oh for anyone who wants to mark quantanium deposits you can take a box mission before setting out drop the box off near the deposit and if you die or loose it you can see the box location and be back where you left off
No don’t think so but it’s better than not being able to get back tho
I totally ignored the fact that Lyria exists... placing boxes there makes alot of sense.
😆 I tried to apply that to the Halo in my head.
how much money can the prospector make selling raw full cargo? I'm interested in the scale (low/high) before l rent
Where you go depends entirely what you prefer. The amount of Quantanium is the same in both. And depending on your RNG you'll find the same good or bad rocks.
Lyria however has the potential for bigger rocks that need Gadgets or modules. In the Halo you won't find a rock that isn't breakable by the Lancet.
Well... and theres Risk-Reward ...you have the potential of more Quantanium but the high risk of pirates (depending on your location and time of day) ... The Halo is 99.9% safe
Both locations have ther pros and cons. Best is to try to mine in both locations for a few days and see what you ultimately like more.
Looks like the new Meta for the Belt isn't pinned yet ... maybe that's useful:
This video covers the latest surveying techniques in Star Citizen Alpha 3.17.1 and how they can be used in the Aaron Halo to maximize your surveying efficiency, classify asteroid type from up to 12 kilometers away, and diagnose unscannable asteroids before they ever get in visual range.
NOTE: I mentioned that I have a video covering the Active...
I still hold that renting a prospector which you cannot change modules or laser head on is painful. It's just hard to find good rocks you can break and make a profit
works like a charm. As great as Lyria. Even better I would say.
True. Rented Prospectors should go hard on Bexalite and Laranite. Quick way to buy a Prospector.
TLDR; The rocks with high % of that is too big mass\resistance to break. And the lower % one has too much trash
That's basically it in a nutshell with rented prossie
If you have a friend who can rent a ROC amd Cutty, you can make 500K and more per hour.
Prospector scouts and brakes the ROC-Rocks, the ROC scoops the gems. Well... and the Cutty is just a ROC taxi 😆
Roc and cutty is the way to go for spacebuck i agree. But with servers as they are atm...well GL.
The trick is to have the Prospector break the rocks. It literally takes only seconds. The ROC just needs to scoop.
huh? oh is that possible? Didnt' think about that...
If you keep the power to zero and turn the laser on and off, you can break those rocks. They overheat super quick, so it takes a little practice to not scatter gems everywhere, but its possible. Broke some of those rocks myself when I was bored because I didn't find any good Quant-Rocks on Lyria. xD
Can you scoop with prospector too if you want, or is that Roc only?
Had to pick them up by hand tho, since I didn't have a friend with a ROC with me 😆
ugh...by hand 😄
Gem-Scooping is a ROC-Thing
Actually i say ugh, but...really, it may be more stable.
When you dc, atleast you have your backpack
🤣 It was a nice job after an hour without a single usable Quant-Rock. ... Lyria hates me ... that's why I exclusively mine in the Halo 
hi, does anyone know why my prospector wont scan some asteroids? Am i under equipped or a bug?
Bug
ok, thank you Fox
Hey been away for a while now. How is roc mining state lately? Last I checked mineable rocks were hard to spot because of scanners issue and lot of bugs or Roc parts breaking kind of stuff
I'm pretty sure some unscannables are there on purpose, to compensate for the lack of risk in the belt.
Man, this game just crushes your soul.
Started out with 900K AUEC after mining Hadanite on my ROC for three days. I rented a Freelancer for seven days to go ROC mining. Landed the Freelancer at Aberdeen and my ROC (purchased with aUEC) was nowhere to be found. Learnt that I probably lost it as it was located within my rented Cutlass Black when the rental ended. Tried waiting one day and went to microtech to try and spawn the ROC. It was nowhere to be seen.
Read online that I needed to do a character reset, and that character resets shouldn't remove the rental Freelancer. IT DID. So now I'm about 160K in the hole with nothing to show for it.
Fast forward to this evening. Decided to rent the Freelancer for three days to get restarted on ROC mining after my character reset. At the rental terminal, I swore I selected 3 days rental, but after I clicked confirm, it became a 30 DAYS RENTAL! And now I'm down another 700K or so, with a rental ship that will probably go away with the next character reset that I no doubt will have to do to get rid of a game-breaking bug!!!
Sorry for ranting, but it's really frustrating... 
It ask your permission when finalizing the deal
Yes, it did, but I selected 3 days, and checked the price was correct (89K). I clicked rent, and didn't check the figure in the window that popped up.
I'm blaming myself for being careless... 😦 Now excuse me while I go sulk in one corner and kick myself in the butt.
It is a bug in the game, and you should not be expected to double check everything you do.
I've seen that bug myself, and know of it, but for new people it's just terribad
Yeah this game is brutal starting off with the bugs since you dont got much and dont know how to stop them
especially roc mining
are there any working refinery Screens?
i was at hur L1 and the scrren were not working
I'm new to the game, sticking to cargo hauling for now.
i like cargo hauling, just started getting into mining
I'll get there. Currently only have 60k credits.. gotta grind more distilled spirits and scrap.
yes!
Cargo hauling isnt great starting cash
Bounties are really good at first even though they might be intimidating
mainly cause its alright cash and makes you better at flight
It's not that bad. Found maybe a handful of non scanables in the past few days.
And in the end ... Mining involves Prospecting ... So it's just adding to the immersion. Would be hella boring if every rock that COULD be mineable would contain scannable and mineable ore.
i'm still trying to figure out how to refine
Ah i was responding to Decclan's rental price snafu
What's the problem with refining?
a user issue mostly
Maybe, but what exactly? Surely we can help. :)
i was going to the wrong terminal.....
classic. Lots of us did that the first time. Me included.
how did i get the inert stuff off my ship?
By scooping rocks that weren't 100% the stuff you were after. ... Or just by scooping the wrong rock.
That's hilarious. I was literally talking about ping with the mining arm out yesterday, complaining that I hadn't seen any videos on the subject of scanning for rock "types" and not just moving to clusters.
Instill keep racing from cluster to cluster, but applying the "new" method to further away clusters. Quick money. Got 4 32scu loads within the one hour I was out there.
nice, you got lucky
last night, I found about 6 clusters in an hour. The highest Q-rock I found had only 15%
most were between 2-6%
it was infuriating
anyone else have a broken Mole since the last update
known bug. Make sure you contribute to on the issue council. :)
That sucks @serene quest . Since 3.17 I find good rocks incredibly fast. ... But I go agressive in the belt tho. I cover alot of markers in a short time.
where? sorry im pretty new, it says 0 storage space, is that what others are experiencing too? and yeah is that where i file a bug?
I don't own a mole, but it should be this one here: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-38161
Bummer, that was the second ship I bought and it is completely useless at this time 😦
can you no longer get the blue greycat armor?
im at orision but i dont see it and the terminal doesnt work so i cant chck the store
alright another dumb question
I bought it yesterday through the terminal. without any problems.
if i just the dinyx one and log in say tomorrow will it still be there?
maybe relog on a differnt srvr?
Do you have any modules on your lasers. Some ppl. ingame said that removing them fixed the laser for some reason.
The refinery jobs are persistent. They only get lost when patches release
sweet! thanks
So always sell your Quant a day before patch release.
anyone need someone to do anything cuz i just want to earn some money
not mining that yet still learning mining currently outside HUR l1
I really hope they do something with delivery and box missions soon. Would love to see a bit more variety in rewards as well as gameplay.
Also they (or some other programming genius) needs to create a route builder.
applies for all refinery jobs. always sell your stuff.
i would love a go here buy this so i'm not flying empty to some points
You mean for cargo runs?
understood currently filling up my raft
yes
Take care on filling your raft. Any extra gets lost afaik
SC-tool is great but some point you are traveling empty
Yea SC and UEX are great but that’s for commodities. I would love to have some sort of tool that lets you craft your routes for deliveries. Say you’ve got box missions and you pick up 3 that go to the same planet. Would be nice to have some sort of tool that either builds the most efficient route or let’s you build the route on your own
Would really be great for QT as well to set multiple trips. Instead of only one destination.
That moves on to the next trip once you’ve QT’d to the end of your first route.
No rush. Just make sure to not hoard refining jobs when there's a patch about to release. 👍
Sadly, this did not do the trick
rip ... was worth a shot tho.
Anyone know what to do about the mole having no cargo space?
i claimed it 2x already and reset my character as well
if you tried to fill it won't?
Thanks for sharing this, I appreciate it. I haven't had a chance to start using it but I'm back ar CRU-L1 and hope to get a chance sometime first of next week (earlier if I get a free moment from RL)
Aaaannnnnddddd…. today’s really not my day. After the renting incident above, finally got down to a Hadanite mining session. As I was approaching the mining station in my rented Freelancer, I lost control of it on approach and it crashed with a full load of Hadanite in the ROC.
Man, the Freelancer flies like a pig compared to the Cutlass. And it’s a tighter fit for the ROC. I may just end up getting the Cutlass at this rate!
oof
Part of the fees we pay to attend the School of Star Citizen, I reckon.
is there a max to the amount of refining jobs i can have?
I use the Freelancer MAX for all my ROC mining, a fantastic ship (not rentable though). Once you adjust your flying to adjust for the ship, it isn't an issue. She has served me well for years
No, but a patch may wipe all refinery jobs
I think a hotfix will be coming soon to address some of the issues with ship duplication, etc. But that's me just speculating
I guess a Freelancer Max will also be helpful when I eventually move to quant mining on the Prospector, to move the refined quant to sell?
How many SCUs is a Prospector load of quantanium AFTER it’s been refined?
cant load SCUs back to prospector
At 120 SCU, she's a great refinery job ship. Also for ROC mining, the wide ramp makes her the best RORO ship for me (roll-on, roll-off)
subtract about 8% roughly, it depends on where you get it done. CRU-L1 offers a 3% bonus for Quan refining
Does the MAX fly similarly to the Freelancer?
It’s really irritating. It’s like flying a commercial jetliner vs a fighter jet (I fly flight sims)
She's a big girl, you can't fly her like an Arrow
where can i buy the stamped module?
I yaw and the nose of the ship keeps wanting to point at my original direction, especially above SCM speed
Thanks
I might be off on the %, it might be 5% not 8%
But at CRU-L1 with the bonus, your pure haul will net about 275K aUEC
what rout do u recommend for trading?
It seems like the Mole is just unusable right now. I tried just about everything earlier
That’s one Prospector worth of quant on one trip? That’s quite good. Probably half an hour worth of mining per full load?
I get about 150-200K doing ROC mining
anyone knows where to sell Slam
should i rent a prospector to make some money so i can buy the prospector?
what do u want to mine?
No, rent the cutty and roc and hadanite mine
yes
roc?
The ROC mining might be more profitable than a rental Prospector
ROC ground mining vehicle
oh the grey cat
It is
Graycat Remote Ore Collector
Greycat ROC. Rentable at L1 refinery stations
Its more profitable than a rented pros. Trust me i learnt the hard way
Black the only one you can rent
Adding two things to keep in mind with ROC mining. You will need an escort ship, which you can get from the free fly. It will be needed to carry the ROC. The Second is that you will need the Pembroke Armor. Third you will want to mine on Aberdeen
Free Fly might have some ships you can get for free
I use medium armour and yes you can use the free ships to save 35k a day
Medium Armor on Aberdeen?
why are the screens at a refanery shop black?
Daymar is ok, but Aberdeen has the most deposits
I use daymar, i dont have luck on aberdeen
i need a escort ship?
carrier
ah ok
No just the roc and cutty, you dont have to refine and transport hadanite
like you mentioned, the cutty will do great,
Free Fly might have some other ships you can get without having to pay rental fee. Also, DefenseCon you can get a free Cutlass Black for 48 hrs
Crusader day you can get the MSR
i have a titan will that work?
With all the mess involved with qaunt mining there really isnt much between the two in terms of profit per hour imo
As a solo i mean
One trip in the ROC can yield up to 200K aUEC
Yea
the roc can quant mine?
And you can do that in an hour if you know where to look
The hotter the planet, the better the odds for hadanite
Seems legit. I find it like the mountains more than the flat grounds
i think i killed my ship
hurston?
Up to you
Here is one more PRO-TIP ... QT to OM-1 orbital marker on the planet you plan to mine on, dive down to the surface from there
It is Always daylight under OM-1
thx
If you mine on Daymar, you won't need specialized armor. If you decide to try Aberdeen, you will have to have the Pembroke amor. YOu can get that at the Refinery Store
ok thx roc and a cutlass got it
Or find a ship that will carry the ROC in the Free Fly list of ships so save aUEC
will the vanguard work?
I've never done mining before, is it easy to get into to?
@vivid kelp it can be, yes.
You can start out doing some hand mining just to get the hang of breaking some rocks
or, another great option, if you want to just jump in, is crew a Mole with someone
if you want to solo mine, you could rent a Prospector and do some mining on Lyria
Hope this helps
Cheers! Think I'll get myself a ROC and have a doss about Daymar
Anyone know if I can buy a lancet mining head at Port Olisar ?
you should be able to
I think so
sweet will go and check it out, just got my prospector and need to upgrade it a bit
nice
Is it worth mining hadenite with the prospector, I should I go full on Quantanium ?
or*
Do you have 2.something million for the prospector?
Just go for quantanium
oh nm if i could read 😛
I have a question. Which place will give me the most profit while mining with the prospector?
lyria is the best and go to arc l1
Halo is best :P ... it's all pure RNG
Thank you. Also what rock should I be looking for?
when you scan on lyria only go after the multiples, thats where quant is
Ok thanks for the info.
anytime
guys i cannot claim my ship
You can press tab to change channels.
Thanks
what's the best rout for trading
i do arial to lorville
and do laranite & titanium
👍
Where is the best start spot on lyria for quant?
I heard paradise cove is good but i cant find it in quantum drive
Everywhere where you have plains next to hills basically. Can't really go wrong anywhere there. just don't pick a spot with alot of locations around. that just increases the chances of getting ganked.
is mining still broken with no cargo being actually scooped?
Is there a resistanc difference beetween moon rocks and asteroids ? the misc prospector seems not powerfull enough to mine on moons
No mining works @charred night
Mole is currently showing as having zero cargo capacity for basically everyone I have spoke to.
Oh I don’t use the mole
Prospector works then
Didn’t realise the mole was Broken
That sucks
I’m just sad the first ship I bought was a Mole and not a prospector
does it really work ? my cargo seems to reset itself
those 45k courier missions, apart from unmarked containers, what other surprises can be in store?
Maybe it’s an account bug then rather than just relating to the players using the mole?
And the mole enables the bug across all mining vessels?
Idk I’ve only ever used the prospector because I play solo and I’ve not had the issue so…
hostile NPCs that wish to kill you?
are they going to be colour coded again? turqoise armor etc
Quick question do I have to sell all my refinery orders before 3.17.2?
oh yes, most certainly.
When about do you think that will be?
Oh ok plenty of time to stack em up
Are the refinery shops for buying mining modules still broken?
Are refinery work orders limited ?
rented a prospector where are the best planets to mine?
places with lets say top 5 ores
without mass being a problem
Also rented a prospector but the laser doesn't seem powerful enough for it, or it takes a very long time for the initial crack
yeah having same problem. the ore's that i do find that have a good amount, are too big for me to mine
was able to get more done with the roc then that thing. just shouldn't be
they really do need to buff the rental prospector IMO
The rental prospector does just fine but you have to mine in the correct places. Where its going to do its best in in the space mining where astroids generally dont get much over 5k in size. You will want to stay away from QT and go for lessor deposits like Bexalite and Laranite, hell anything above gold is money in the bank
Its not meant to be your end game miner only a temp solution to being able to afford one
Roc mining can be more instant cash but even a rental prospector can be way more profitable once you get your refinery runs and hauling set up
I enjoy roc mining as a side thing. And you can rent one and recoup both the costs and the cost of buying one pretty quickly (unless you're super unlucky lol)
yes you can. I rented a roc and cutlass until I could buy and roc mined til I could buy a prospector however you could go either route
I made a fair amount of money in the rental prospector as well, just mining the right rocks and going to the right places
you can also use mining gadgets with a rental which helps with bigger rocks if you must
i am aware this is for cargo and mining but flight and combat is inactive and i need an answer, how good is the retaliator bomber at blowing shit up? big ships small ships?
damn
what do you do when someone comes and fucks you up
with like 20 torpedos?
run, prospector has pea shooters
yikes
never happend to me yet. I spook easy, soon as I see a blink I jump out to my other spots
I wish we could set personal QT beacons, like I've always found great spots but fill up and then I can't get back to the exact same rocks after
was previously an eve miner, I know when to cut and run 🙂
like in EVE
yeah
thats why you use the buddy system
the good thing about star citizen is that if you buy a shit ship
you can just get full store price
and buy something else
to sit on the spot while you offload
I stopped playing eve after I got suicide ganked in high sec. Twice. In two days. By two different Corps. In two different systems. I lost two mackinaws 😭 Or where they hulks.... one of the bigger exhumers anyway
I like that in SC insurance gives you the full ship with basic compnents (or will when live anyway)
i just didnt have time anymore for the RL time training
spending hundreds of millions of isk when you're a small time part time player to only get a fraction back was not fun
and yeah that part was irritating, meant if you wanted to change tracks or try something new you couldn't (thought I think you can now but you have to pay $$$
whats a good planet for gem mining
Does anyone have a good setup for mining on lyria? I'm using the prospector.
@pale bloom - Daymar (moon of Crusader) is a good moon for gem mining. Aberdeen (moon of Hurston) is even better, but requires a Hot suite.
Also Daymar is just a nicer place. Aberdeen is dusty and low visibility
But it does have more Hadanite, in my experience
@pearl kite - Lancet laser, Brandt, Filter, and lifeline (If you're new) modules
Thanks I'll try that out
You can get them all at ARC L1
Mining still fucked for the mole?
im currently choosing between getting the M2 starlifter or the drake catterpillar, but im not really up to speed on what, how and where to trade and was wondering with the commodity replenishment system if its even possible to fully fill a catterpillar
if you are going straight for cargo get the c2
best cargo cap atm
good for cargo runs and transporting mining mats
have they made roc mining a bit more profitable in the past few patches? Like since 3.15?
not really that i know of
The Hercules Starlifter way outperforms the CAT in all manner. The CAT is a DRAKE so many lover her (or hater her) for that one aspect. The CAT is a good ship, but for pure performance and versatility, the Hercules line is the best. I have the C2 for max cargo
Yes!! ROC mining is back
oh is it
It got tanked with 3.14 but with the new patch 3.17 she is back in the money
are rocks still a pain in the ass to find?
Nope, the new ping system actually favors finding gem deposits once you learn how to use it
haven't seen this before:
Where’d you find that?
Cool. I never seen the ILW commodity before
I don't remember the margin, but I don't recall it being the next best thing since laranite. Not sure if it's worth the time or risk
I don't think it is lol
But other items like Helium, etc are in demand
248 per aUEC is a big investment
Check the Trade part of mobi and see what the sell and buy prices are being generated
but still
they REALLY need to revamp these Price Alerts
having to sift through these is kind of outrageous
once u get the gems and put the laser in extract mode what do u do?
you extract them with the laser
they should scoop up
slurp it up!
Also, you sell them at the Outpost or Admin offices
ah, welcome to server lag
oh god
You can try to turn the mining arm off, and then the roc off with "U" and on again with "R", but if same, server lag
click on, and slowly sweep, leave the collection on the whole time
game crashed lol
I feel this.
ok, that's why there was an issue
That's why I've put my mining on pause during Free Fly
This is what happens to me too when mining
and they where hadanite
best rock, that's what you want
Well atleast you weren't full of gems and THEN crashes and lost it all
oh god F
It. Will. Happen. Just mentallly prepare 😛
Also, don't try to crack all the rocks then scoop. Crack and Scoop each rock
yea thats what i was doin
the other day I was flying low in my nomad with a roc full of gems looking for more deposits, tried to take a screenshot of the view and crashed. I managed to find my crash site, but the roc was immobile, I eventually figured out I could open the cargo bay on my taurus, land on top of the roc, and it clipped up tinto the bay. then I was able to sell all the gems on my roc lol
FTW Temp!
You can also shoot it, and tractor the SCU crate it makes to your ship 🙂
took me forever to find it, like I knew the general vicinity because I'd flow down from an OM, but my body didn't show up until I was within 5k of it. And I almost gave up before I saw it
omg that would have been easier
Always a next time! 😛
my only loss was my pembrook suit, it glitched when I tried to loot it and I couldn't pick up the crate, couldn't even select it
But do try to keep these events like that to a minimum, LOL
first time since they implemented the new death system I was able to find and recover anything. my body usually despawns or glitches out lol
The whole system is barely tier zero level
its why only ever go out in armor and weapons I looted from bunkers
Hey guys, i bought some cargo on arcorp to sell it on orison, but when i got to my destion i couldn’t sell it, doesn anyone know why?
Are you trying to sell at a trade terminal?
not all destinations wants to buy all the things, it differs on location to location what they want to buy - what are you carrying?
Nono i could sell the cargo there, but it was like i hadn’t it
hi man! where is best spot on microtech for mining?
I honestly think roc mining is better then prospector mining.
4 hours, 3 different planets, 1 astroid belt. = 34k, I could probably make 600,00k with roc
im trying to mine something with an roc but its not working, so is there a chance that the laser can break?
No just a bug. Try turning it off and turn it on again. Then maybe
nah didnt work
What Color are the gems your trying to mine?
I think the only gems that exist are the following colors( pink, blue, and green) would it be pink?
Ok then you should be able to mine it.
Do you have it set to “mining mode” or is it on “extractor mode”
it was on mining mode
Did you increase power to the laser?
should you be able to activate the laser even when not pointing at an rock?
yeah i did
When that happens to me, I try cycling the power (U, then R)
Or try getting out of your ROC and back in
Yeah try that
but, it could be your power generator (I believe there's one just for the mining laser) and if you haven't repaired your ROC recently, its likely that it's broken.
This used to happen to me all the time, then I upgraded my power plant (size 0 and can be purchased at MicroTech)
oh i only rented the roc
Take it to a mining outpost and drive it on to the landing pad to get it repaired.
You can check the power on the "items" tab of the power display screen
If the power bar does not start to fill up, then it's a power issue
since you're renting, you can't upgrade, so I would suggest repairing it after every few loads
ill try that
hope that helps
What happens if your in a rental ship when it expires?
no idea
Well about to find out 😂
I think you get to keep it, but next login and/or interaction with the fleet manager will have it expire.
Thanks
What about to buy out right?
1.3 mill it looks
ok looks like something was broken now it works
What mining head should I get for my prospector?
Lancet
Make sure it's the Lancet I and not the Lancet II
Gotcha! Thanks!
Also, are the terminals not working?
Cause the terminals are black, is that a server side issue or a general issue?
where can i see the storage of my roc?
I think on the back end of your truck
There will be a little hatch that you can open
oh ty
try's mining for fun and relaxing gameplay crashes 30 times
It should be on the HUD when you're in mining mode. I can't remember if it's on the left or the right, but it's called "cargo"
@analog robin ^^
where can i sell it tho?
you have to be in your ROC, have it on, and be in mining mode
I'm sorry I'm not sure exactly where it is on the HUD, but I know it's called "cargo"
i found it dw
Not sure I understand the question. It should be on the display on one of the side columns of info
no where do i sell the ores i mined
oh, I see
what do you know, just bought 600k worth of laranite, i leave the building, jump, glitch through the building, and get crushed to death and instantly die
yes, the cargo will display a list
it will show all the collected materials and their amounts, they are sorted by amount so the more you have of a particular material it will towards the top
ok
@hollow sedge - sorry to hear that, if it was in your ship, try to relocate it and make sure not to claim it
it might still be there
if you claim the ship, you'll lose it for sure
it's been my experience that cargo persists pretty well - even with a 30K or a glitch
cargo trading is risky because of the 30Ks alone
with 30k protection what Should happen is that within 10 minutes after the crash, you should be able to retrieve it from any terminal
Other types of crashes, non 30k's,well god knows. I'm told you're supposed to come back where it happened in your ship...but in my experience that's rare. Mostly wake up on station. Sometimes halfway into my ship in space
quick question
if i fly around in my cutlass i cant find ores that my roc can mine
only giant rocks
so can my cutlass detect only big rocks or am i doing somethign wrong
No, it can detect gems too
But ore rocks are detected at larger ranges
Gems are ONLY detected at around 3000 meter
So anything you find or see on ping that farther then that is a rock and not a gem
For a new player, i'd reccomend Daymar. Good deposits, ok atmosphere, an altimeter that works most of the time, and visibility.
alr ty
Are you able to equip multiple passive mining modules to a prospector? Because whenever I go into vehicle manager it only has one slot for a module.
can i log out in my ship if im carrying cargo?
You can. And it...should be fine it you are in space. But yeah. Alpha. So never know.
and do i store my ship when i seel
the moment when you buy 100k of goods and it fails and you loose the 100k
Can multiple passive mining modules be equipped to a prospector?
Yepp
is anyone else not able to access the stores at refineries?
Just don't die, or claim or it will be expensive
i cant buy a fucking attachment for my mining laser
Punch it in here. There should be a planetary store for it
I'm 99% you are wrong, but i'm not the one who needs it 😄
The screens are just showing black for me. It annoying.
same
mk
I was mining and the rock I was breaking blew up even though It was no where near over loading, does anyone know why that would happen?
it was a really good rock to :(
Chris roberte hates you
This might have been posted earlier, but how to find things you need when the Refinery Terminal is blank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTBTtpWOkbA
Right now in 3.17.1, the refinery terminals are blank. Here's where to find items you might need for Quantanium mining in the interim~
Check out QuantCalc - available here on the Google Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spectrefleet.quantcalc
This is an app (recently launched) to assist with some basic but very imp...
Lag is real and it is a killer. It use to be massive issue when this was first rolled out but now it seems to be making a resurgence with the hot mess that 3.17.1 is
The lag is server lag, not data lag
You do not see the overcharge as it is happening because the animation hasn't been updated
One thing I do is oscillate my charge with the laser, if I notice that there is response lag then I back it way off real quick
SADLY 3.17.1 is an awfully buggy patch with so many issues that it should have never gone live
Speaking of 3.17.1 is there any known fix yet for the mole not able to pick up ore and showing 0/0 available? Its probably been beaten to death already so thanks in advance.
^^^
The MOLE challenges is just one of a long list of issues. They've not even looked at rolling out any hot patches to address these issue so I'm thinking this is all we got until 3.17.2. EVEN the ship duplication issue isn't getting fixed, the vanishing aUEC, the ATC not recognizing ships landing, Etc etc etc. It's a soul sucking mess right now
You sound like my rant list... yes to all those things as being my biggest peeves. thanks for the update.
I honestly believe that 3.17.2 will be most everything this patch should have been but we won't know that until ILW is long over and at the end of June.
NOTE the Nine Tails event is going to be pretty awesome if they can pull it off
Where is the best place to mine bexalite or hadanite with a prospector?
wheres the best place to sell quant? close to ARC-L1?
Area 18 TDD at ArcCorp
Is there an Admin in New Babbage or just TDD?
How large of a rock can you crack with two MOLE lasers?
Like how do you put them in your laser?
Yah, how to equip them in vehicle manager
I noticed the arbor laser head only had 1 slot for some reason, my other heads had 3 slots
it's supposed to have 3 slots
question, i want to go to orison and pickup some components but transport them in a nomad. how can i tell ahead of time that the item will fit in the cargo/inventory of the nomad?
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So if I buy a different head I’ll have more module slots?
I want to say yes, but it's weird cos the arbor used to have 3 slots
but also the arbor is shit, so buy a new head anyway
lancet is good
nomad has 1500 inventory space apparently
does the spreadsheet contain the sizes of components?
don't think so
Thanks
Both...
Is buying a prospector and mining the best way to make a lot of money right now?
I don't think you can reach the sun, but no
really hard to say cos I've been trying to Prospect and chill but the bugs are real haha
Is there a generally accepted best way to make money right now? I have a bit to spend and am trying to figure out what will net the most.
This happened to me all night with a rental. In the Aaron Halo
With full high value loads and just boom. Explodes
And now I can't even claim my rental back
So I guess I'm done for the night LOL
I like to grab rental heavy fighters from the Expo and do HRT and VHRT bounties. The Vanguards cost about 2mil if you want to get into combat. Before that I enjoyed chaining delivery missions together. But I'm keen to dive into quantanium mining right now because it's more relaxing.
Yeah I find a lot of quant in the aaron halo and lots of rocks close together
It would be great if it wasn't so laggy there
will any of the alien ships be on display within Invictus?
there not i just checked
can confirm, still black
Alien week comes after
Do we know when is the alien week ?
i see above refinery terminals fixed, are the gadget and module terminals working? i tried to get some bormax gadgets but the screens were blank at wide forest near arc L1
Having fun while you earn good coin is important. Bounty hunting is a good earner. You don’t need an expensive fighter to do most levels. Mining is a top earner also. You have ship mining which is pricey to get started in because you need two ships. ROC mining is much more affordable and offers good earning also.
CIG flagged it fixed but mileage may vary
Just when you think it's safe to go ROC mining...only the normal lag, but only grabbed half max inventory. Get back to outpost, open the admin door, click cycle...and crash. And ship not there when i come back ofc. I did park off the pad, which...is either good or bad depending on who you ask?
This is going to be a rough road for about 4 to 6 weeks. 3.17.1 is, overall, a brutal soul sucking patch in my opinion
i have joined the horde, spent 2 hours gathering hadanite and right as i defcide ok lets go sell !DING disconnection from the server
One day these horrors will be but a memory, but not today
does the server have maintencve, cant seem to connect now
I’ve noticed that often and they could be applying a hot fix (just speculating)
yea, closed down and reopen seem to work
just sucks had a decent hawl
lol
try to go back to start again and it spawns it like that
check your keybindings, there is a shut cut for it
That’s why you never leave engines on when storing
Alt+J when flying
it wasnt when storing dss, that was reconnect, go to the hangar and spawn it, so ti was clean spawn
ye i got it now thnks
the terminals still dont work do they
didnt someone say they fixed it?
I've been seeing some people say cargo hauling fireworks or AV equipment to orison is very lucrative but haven't seen any videos or Screencaps, has anyone tried it?
yo anyone got a bug where ur propestor is full of quantanium but the refinement processing regonize it as inert materials?
it starts after Invictus is over?
Last year it was June 12
hmmm okay
This is usually just a visual bug, where it says so in cargo hold, but refinery correctly sees it as quant
But since you put it that way, i assume that's not what you got?
Will the merchantmen be available during the alien week
idk but i ended up left it and find another quan
another thing is when im sucking up quan the cargo hold reset
is that a visual bug
it just went from 11 scu to 0 scu
No idea
Mole still broken?
Heh, i was gonna say, atleast bunker missions seem pretty stable. And then i boost off get into space and helloooo 30k
It should be only a visual bug, or invisible bug 😄
Can't ever be 100% with SC, but that's what most people say
well...took a Clear the Site mission.....and cleared the site...got the mission complete.......problem is, there was still about 5 bad guys in the bunker and I got shot....new one for me
So I ran the Meds/Stims run last night in the C2...only made 20k with a full cargo.....wtf
I had this happen recently .... was supposed to clear the site and it already was at 4/10 ... ... Killed them, got the success mission and heard someone yelling behind me (npc) .... I managed to leave alive, but this is al.ost as annoying as missions you can't finish. xD
Hello guys, i’m using the mole but when i enter into extraction mode the cargo scu doesn’t fill up, is it a bug?
where is raffinery station?
All the L1's have refinery stations
yes dont mine right now, for some reason cargo does not fill up it is a known bug
terminals still broken in refineries?
One post said CIG claims it's fixed, but doesn't seem the case
Even if they arent, they broke the mole. The backbone of mining is still broken
As a Prospector miner, I have to be biased and claim the Prospector to be the true Backbone. 
Can you afford a mole? 😉
I could, If I didn't spend my money on other stuff 
Wouldn't use it tho. Too sluggish.
Lol ok 👌
In the end it doesn't.matter what you fly. Without us miners everyone would be f*cked 
how to check best quant sale price?
Isn't it the same everywhere?
Commodities aren't in Quanta yet.
It'll be such a mess when that changes...
So prospecter mining works again?
If you like making small amounts of money sure 😉
What is big money?
A 750K to a million per hour is good enough.
This would mean you find 3 full prossy loads in an hour. This is not possible with a prossy. Heck cracking the rock and delivering a load of Quantanium takes 30 minutes by itself not to mention scouting. 750k -1 million an hour lol
400-500k an hour is realistic with a mole.
But it honestly depends on scouting.
3 Prossi loads is completely possible now u less you're really unlucky. New scanning mechanics make it so easy
You’re high dude. I know how the new scouting works and it doesnt change much from last patch.
I got super lucky 2 days ago ... flew to the halo, first ping a good rock... cracked, unloaded and back to the halo, just to find good rocks right away again ... and a 3rd right after that.
Currently it feels almost broken how good the halo is.
You just need to combine speed and new scan mechanics and you find Quantanium in masses.
Yeah but your saying per hour like its easily repeatable. Its not. You’ve even said “super lucky”
I know how it works dude
I find at least 2 Prossi loads per hour ... most times it's 3. The Halo is just really good atm. Can't speak for your RNG tho. And that's what mining is ... 100% RNG
I'm a noob but WTF is the "halo"
Ok well 750k-1000k is 3-4 an hour. Thats just unrealistic. 4 loads in an hour? I think you might be confusing 1 hour with 2 hours
It's the Asteroid belt around Stanton
lol yeah
Believe what you want
I keep enjoying my successful Prospector runs. 👍
Good for you 👍
Pirating is going to be lucrative when everyone and their momma has a prospector in 2 days
That's why I mine in the Halo. No pirates there. And Lyria sucks for me anyway. My luck on this god forsaken moon is as bad as it is good in the Halo.
Eh. I hope so this game could use a shake up
I want all pirates to explode and bug out to be stuck at Klescher forever 
Pirating is fun ^_^
Maybe ... I prefer to mine and sell in peace tho.
I like wasting pirates time tho. Evading fire for an hour until they get bored or rage quit 
At least if they lock you from Quantum ... If they can't do that, I usually just QT away
im tryna hand mine a thing, it said suitable deposit, i turned on laser, increased power to 100, what now
theres a line with a triangle sometimes appearing down-left of the crosshair, im assuming theres supposed to be a bar there? and its just staying low?
its dolivine btw
the pirating in cargo refactor will be pirates camping people leaving refineries with their cargo ships tbh
Anyone know the difference in cargo capacity between the Andromeda and Taurus? I have the Andromeda with 6mo insurance now, wondering if it's worth picking up the Taurus
killing pirates will be fun 🙂
wiki should tell you:
https://starcitizen.tools/
Cheers, didn't know about that wiki
One thing you can do, if the Andromeda isn't tired to your game package, is cash it back to the store for credit and get the Taurus with 10yr insurance (often considered equal to LTI). Or buy a cheap LTI ship and CCU up to the Taurus
CGI might only offer the better insurance with warbond buys, if so, then but a cheap token to upgrade
Insurance to me is like...not even an issue. Mainly because we don't know what it's gonna cost. And game needs to be released 😛 But i suppose if you wanna future proof against the unknown, sure!
People chasing that lti are often in the hundreds to thousands of dollars spent so I totally understand why they want it
This has the distances to drop out of QT between jumps to reach the halo http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf
I currently hang out at ARC L1 and QT to hurston and sell at Arccorp
There used to be a belt you could see on the map too, but that's not there anymore - or maybe you have to zoom the right way?
Not great money but it's a living
Yeah for some reason they got rid of it a few patches ago in the map
Thanks, it is my current package, unfortunately.... Though I might do that anyway if there's another nice package around
The Andromeda is a fine ship, the Taurus is scaled down and not near as nice. It might be best to just buy her in-game rather than spend real dollars on her
Is mole fixed yet
Hey, are the prospector mining module terminals working for anyone else? They won't load for a friend of mine
Mined 4800 quant ore this morning. I’d say that’s a pretty good starting point. I’m not hardcore mining but I do find it enjoyable.
Hey guys, i was moving some cargo from area 18 to orison, then the game crashed and now im at area 18, but on the fleet manager it says that the taurus in stored in orison, it lets me retrieve here on area 18 tho…what sould i do in order to not loose the cargo?
The game crashed before, i still had the cargo tho
If you got the 30k error when crashing. Any cargo that was transferred should be safe. Though that is only if you retrieve not claim the ship.
So do i have to retrieve the ship here at area18?
But it says it’s stored in orison
I mean, it lets me retrieve the ship here on area18 even if its stored on orison, idk if u got me 😂
will 3.18 be a full wipe?
Hey where ever it says retrieve. Don’t claim the ship. So if you have to go somewhere to retrieve the ship and not claim it do so. So if it says you can retrieve at your current location you should be fine. Claiming is what will wipe cargo if stored.
What do you need for hand mining?
I understand I need a tool to actually mine, but do I need a crate to store the materials in afterwards? Or do they appear in my inventory?
And then, where do I sell it 
Okay, ty so much
Not much. Your better of ROC mining.
Guys roughly how much would i be making per hour with a freelancer?
I want to get into cargo hauling
Do you think the price of cargo ships is going to increase when the cargo rework is released?
I only have a Titan right now, but want to plan ahead
@tidal cargo cargo is very sus
hasnt been right since 3.11
its not a huge money maker as cargo is shared across all servers
Ah ok bro
Ill stick to couriers😅 (deliveries)
So if I do ROC mining, will I need to refine the materials or no? And where do I sell them?

roc mining doesnt need refining
just sell at the same place you spawn the roc at
theres another building with a terminal
Oh, is it the "trading" terminal thing I'm after?
Sounds good, thanks for the tips, just starting out with mining after doing bounties all my life :p
How long does it usually take to fill up a Connie using a ROC?
@thin escarpwhat would u say for a semi - new player to do to get lots of money at a daily rate?
bear in mind i already have a freelancer medium freight
I'm mainly a miner. but for a new player bunkers and such can be solid.
ah yes
been doin quite a few bunkers and bounties
ah ok:)
Every time i walk in this dude makes believe hes busy with something. Such a jerk
some guy i was with did a bounty for 225000 but split with me and another guy so i got 70k
I can show ya the ropes my group has mined close to a billion since 3.15 dropped
wow
thats a lot
yes please
haha
i only have the freelancer but yesterday we used some type of avatar ship to do the bounties
had plenty turrets

I have them all if you wanna try something
i mean even if i just tag along and shoot with the turrets i dont mind
i got aim 😉
are u available now?
not currently but i'll be on in a bit
ok bro take ur time
mole mining kinda broken cause invictus or i'd take yall out
Any known workarounds to the broken refinery consoles?
I can't buy the mining head or the modules I need
Any chance they're on a shelf nearby?
Otherwise I haven't seen a workaround
There are times when the collector seems fail. Power cycle the ROC seems to help
The lancet is at Port Olisar dumpers depot
On display?
The terminal works there
I also need stampede and surge (I think?) modules; are they on display anywhere, by chance?
Oh gotcha; thanks!
Earlier I posted a video where they mention other places to get the items
CIG claims the terminals are fixed now
They also claimed the game would release, like 8 years ago 😂
I believe next to nothing they say, anymore haha
Though, to be fair, the game has made much better progress the past ~couple years
if im transporting my refined quant to be sold and a 30k occurs do i loose my cargo?
possibly
those terminals dont work
anyone know when the expo set to reopen?
Do you have a link to your video. so I can dream while I save up my credits?
oh cool, thanks
whats ya ign btw
Bacon_Wrangler
you on rn?
waiting on my upgrade from 100i to Titan to go through, then going to try some mercenary missions
nope, at work
did you apply upgrade in hanger.
on website
I just sent you enough money to get a prospector. Good luck mining tonight
oh dang, thanks!
make sure you do the upgrades in my pdf
sure thing
got your pinned messages pulled up so I will remember to read them after work
should i rent a roc and a cutlass or a prospector?
I've rented a prospector twice but server load has caused nothing but bugs
oh damn
Charge lag blowing up rocks in my face
Or crashes in Aaron belt
My prospector even started randomly emptying cargo
I tried both, and found better success with the Cutlass + ROC, myself
Until you can buy a Prospector, at least, it seems
Had holes in the saddle bags
so should i go with the roc and cutlass right?
Otherwise it's been great
LOL
Rental isn't cost effective
At best I'm paying for the rental
I've gotten some lucky loads though and if it was my prospector it'd be great. I've gotten more utility out of my cutlass and ROC
what happens if im in a rental ship and my time is up?
Yeah, I struggled to make my rental money back on the Prospector
I've wondered this. I don't think anything. I think it's tied to ASOP
But I made 50-100k per run with the Cutlass+ROC
The rental wouldn't be so bad if crashes weren't so frequent
Especially in the Aaron Halo which is amazing
dont rent the prospector
do the roc and cutty combo
until you can buy prospector.
rental is boo boo
Yeah I learned that the hard way
It was good learning though
For when I get my own
i can help ya
I'll be on later this evening. east coast us 🙂
Can i make alot of money with a c2 hurcules?
eh
if you run into no bugs.
and able to buy lots of supply
and willing to wait for server ticks
and no 30ks.
then maybe you'll make a lil

I want to mine more but my prospector is stuck behind the claim wall
im new to mining any one have a full list of best upgrades/mods for the prospector
Guys i’ve bought some cargo, it took my money but its says 0 cargo, is that normal?
No i didn’t with 2 times crashing
Its just that i bought cargo lost money but no cargo
Is c2 best ship to make money with cargo atm?
i mean its got the biggest scu space so in the game atm
but you also need alot of money to fill it and make decent profit
Guys can someone pls help?
I’ve bought like 10M of cargo, the game have taken my money but i didn’t get the cargo and i couldn’t sell it either, is there a fix?
everyone thats been able to mine quant and refine it successfully where have you been mining and refining? ive been mining at lyria and cant seem to refine at arcl1
How do you run drug cargo
I havent done cargo game loop yet. Does anyone have suggestions on where to go and what to buy and where to sell it?