industrial-professions

[sacred loom]

looks diff with F scroll from ship. But I'm sure your right

[toxic citrus]

If I remember correctly it will show up as small purple crystals on the rocks with purple veins

[sacred loom]

Ill pay more attention next time

[narrow kettle]

yeah I think so aswell

[gentle acorn]

Hada is purple indeed

[toxic citrus]

There's our answer then

[gentle acorn]

I just mined hada like 5min ago

[toxic citrus]

Aphorite is purple too, but darker

A lot darker

[sacred loom]

Got ya

[gentle acorn]

Does roc need fuel? I didnt see any bar

[zenith crag]

If i wanna make good money, should i solo the prospector or mole? Mole has more storage but prospector is faster, idk whats better

[gray egret]

prospector end of story

mole lasers have no advantage apart from range, which is moot. You are mining quant, you will never fill the mole in 15 mins even with a crew with quant

if you make a mistake on the mole while solo surging, you will die as you are locked into a turret pod

[zenith crag]

Gotcha, will stick to a prosp then, tyvm!

[feral totem]

No it doesn’t. It’s powered by the salt from our enemies’ tears

[gentle acorn]

Thought so. Thank you

What would be a ship that fits two single seater roc?

[hard tulip]

wtf does resistance on a rock mean

is a higher number better?

[hollow sedge]

can someone take me out later on and teach me how to mine with my prospector

[gentle acorn]

Could probably do it in an hour or two

If you are on eu?

[hard tulip]

charge level doesnt even flicker

[hollow sedge]

I'm US, and would have to be like 9-10 hours from now

currently at work haha

[gentle acorn]

Im on other side of the big pond 😦

[hard tulip]

pond

[quaint niche]

looking for a mining crew to join if anyone has room for a scout or whatever

[narrow kettle]

I guess the good stones are still out there @gentle acorn @toxic citrus

[zenith crag]

god damn

[quaint niche]

where was that beast found

[narrow kettle]

Lyria 😄

[gentle acorn]

I do find them too. But it's like licking ice cream through a closed window

I tried roc mining on Aberdeen. It may be faster for me at least

Full cargo should be around 200+k

[toxic citrus]

Have fun mining that with a prospector xd

[narrow kettle]

I mean I'm sharing this stone with a buddy. So I't basically liek sharing a big cone of icecream 🙂

I still get more than a full prospector out of that 😛 We'll break it, I fill up, buddy waits fir me to return, then he fills up and then I take the rest 😄

[feral totem]

Any particular features in Aberdeen to look for for Hadanite deposits? Eg flat ground around mountains?

[gentle acorn]

I found some on flat areas near hills

But couldn't find any info to confirm that

[north oyster]

the deposits are random. I've mined some on the side of hills and had to go gather the gems up at the bottom after cracking the rocks. They are in valleys, top of hills, etc

They use to be near large deposits, but now it is much more random

[floral fiber]

Hi all, I have a loaner C2 Hercules because my pledge ship is a Starliner. I have been doing mining stuff to make money, both with a ROC and a rented Prospector, which has been fine so far, but I wondered if there is something else I could do that is more efficient given the tremendous amount of cargo space I have available to me currently. Thanks!

[north oyster]

You can run scrap from TDD at Area18 to ARC-L1, that's a short hop and makes about 25K. You can run Titanium, Gold, etc

Astertine at Ida to Lorville can be a big haul

[floral fiber]

That's also scrap?

I buy the cargo from TDD and sell it at arc l1?

[north oyster]

You normally sell at the TDD but for scrap you buy there

[quaint niche]

and open mining crews need a scout

any*

[north oyster]

This is a good site to find the best out put of different outpost stations on moons
https://sc-trade.tools/home

[floral fiber]

Thank you!!

So if I'm reading that correctly, I could buy scrap at CRUL1, then sell it at CRUL5 for about a 44% profit?

[thin escarp]

doubt

[arctic haven]

so mining modules

any major changes to what's good for prospector quant mining in 3.17?

or is it pretty much the same from 3.16

also do passives disappear after 1 use?

[gentle acorn]

After claim

[arctic haven]

oh, so once you store your ship to refine and get it back it disappears? or only if your ships destroyed?

[gentle acorn]

Storing doesnt mean you are claiming it

Only when destroyed

[north oyster]

the figures are not correct because there are market price changes and also demand supply. So you can only use this for reference of what places have not on what you can make

[arctic haven]

I see, so I'm thinking Lancet + Surge + Stampede? for cracking big quant rocks in Lyria?

[silk ridge]

Hm... when do you guys think they'll drop 3.17.1? I think I'll start 10-15 prospector loads today and tomorrow at the refinery and use Ferron to be save. ... and then just wait for the patch before continue to mine.

[arctic haven]

then I'm debating between the Focus and Reiger III's, I'm leaning towards Reiger for charge window but the Focus looks interesting for getting to bigger and bigger rocks

[silk ridge]

Long live the Halo. Brandts are all you need there

[silk ridge]

The Rieger increases resistance .... I wouldn't.use it if you go for bigger rocks. I'd just take a Brandt. You don't need a large Optimal window if the rock is super stable.

[arctic haven]

so Lancet + surge/stampede/brandt?

[north oyster]

I wonder, if one could make Quan very stable that we could look at the Helix again. The main issue is that the optimal zone was decreased for it and they added a 40% input control lag to dethrone it from being the macdaddy of lasers.

If we could get stability suitable you could literally crack anything with it

Just ponderings

[north oyster]

the patch is still in EVO only, so until it has a few days in open PTU I don't see it showing up soon

[silk ridge]

I though they push it out before the upcoming event.

[north oyster]

I know they will want to, and they're changing a few of the events to accommodate that effort. The earliest would be next week.

[silk ridge]

The only way to make it as stable as the Lancet would be using Brandts ... but you'd need a whole lot of them.

[north oyster]

Might be interesting to put 3x Brandts and see what would happen

Don't need surge or stampede. The charge in the green zone for the Helix is way faster than the Lancet

[proud jasper]

aside from 5200+ rocks, lancet with 2x caux and a brandt is easy mode. More than all you need for asteroid mining since they only go up to 5122 mass. Don't even need gadgets for those

[silk ridge]

I never used the helix. Might try it if I ever get back to Lyria. So far the Halo is much much better for me, because Lyria hates me.

[proud jasper]

not to mention a chunk of rock usually gets stuck under the surface

and you deal with 5200+ mass rocks which nearly impossible solo without a bit of luck on surge+stampede

[north oyster]

Until dethroned and nerfed by CIG, the Helix was the absolute beast of mining. The power is crazy level. Sad that a 108K aUEC laser would now get totally owned by a little support laser that ony cost 20K aUEC

[proud jasper]

yeah, its a bit wacky. The helix can barely asteroid mining compared to the lancet

[north oyster]

I see CIG correcting the game play sometime, it's gonna throw a lot of players when they do

The Lancet (according to lore) is only a support laser, it was never designed to be a stand alone solution to mining.

[silk ridge]

I go up to 5500 with the lancet without modules.

[proud jasper]

mmk, so 5500+. I've stuck with asteroid mining lately so i didn't remember the limits, only goes as high as 5122 in space (as far as i've seen)

Use to crack 7k rocks when overheating was a thing

overclocking i mean

[silk ridge]

I stick to the Belt too. 3 full Prospector loads per hour is so much better than an hour on Lyria without finding a single good or crackable rock xD

[proud jasper]

i've had dry spells in the belt too tho, even in band 5. But there are so many to choose from so if it doesn't have the orange speckles I just move on lol

[silk ridge]

I go for band 3, because I can cover more Opportunity markers without having to dodge as many asteroids as in band 5

[north oyster]

NOTE for some odd reason, you can crack larger rocks in space than you can on planet surfaces

[silk ridge]

Found my meta and it works perfectly in the halo

[north oyster]

this comes into play for those with a rental

[hollow sedge]

No heat lost to the air if I were to guess

[north oyster]

You can run vanilla lancet in Halo and get by, but having the surge does speed things up

[proud jasper]

I've noticed that too. Idk if type of deposit has a hidden effect (i suppose it does, obsidian vs asteroid rock)

I like keeping it chill with vauxs and brandt lol. 0.5 instability on the 100% chunks is pretty chill

[north oyster]

When Ryan from SMB was doing his Zero to Hero series, he noted that when doing the rental Propsector

[silk ridge]

Currently I run FLTR-XL AND 2 Brandts ... might throw out the FLTR and take a surge ... ... I'm impatient 🤣

[north oyster]

I only travel with Surge now, I keep two slots mounted with them so I never run out. But I mine the Halo exclusively now

[silk ridge]

I like Surge-Brandt-Brant

One Surge and 2-3 Brandt uses per Mining run ... unless I have to crack more than one rock

[arctic haven]

I've never tried mining in the belt, only on Lyria

is it easier to find quant in the belt?

[north oyster]

Mixed bag since the new patch

[proud jasper]

interesting how everyone has a different approach. I only ever use brandt once and thats on the chunks. The initial one charges slow enough that I don't even do anything usually

[silk ridge]

This depends on your RNG and your preferences xD

[north oyster]

My issue has been the server hasn't been rolling me good dice rolls. It doesn't like me. I find lots of Quan but none above 10%

[toxic citrus]

Yeah, same

[silk ridge]

I have 0 luck on Lyria but rarely need more than 10 minutes to find a really good rock in the belt.

[toxic citrus]

That's why i've dropped mining for now

[proud jasper]

Can be. There are way more rocks there so you have more opportunities

[north oyster]

The distribution in the Halo bands has changed a little, so I need to do some more research on it

[proud jasper]

Well the median distribution of quant in rocks is like 2.85% so you are looking for the 10-15% of quant rocks that are viable for your time

[north oyster]

Before 3.17, I was racking it in around Band 1, it was crazy good. Now, not so much

[proud jasper]

the 20%+ starts at the upper 85% so only 15% of them in that case are 20%+

[silk ridge]

I timed my runs the last days. The longest I had to search for a 40% rock was 18 minutes.

[proud jasper]

prospector or mole?

[silk ridge]

Prospector

[north oyster]

I only mine in the Prospector

a couple of the guys use MOLEs, but I don't want to work that hard

[proud jasper]

for asteroid mining you are pretty much good at 32% rocks, most of the time. Double the mass and multiply by the percentage, since they tend to be between 4600-5100, you'll get an easy number that you can divide by 100 with

[silk ridge]

I'm really fast and agressive in the belt tho ... maybe that's why I find rocks relatively quickly.

[arctic haven]

where is the belt?

[proud jasper]

Yeah i be chilling while i work or do something else, i've run into so many asteroids lol

[silk ridge]

Check the Pins. There are links to distance charts.

[north oyster]

Here you go

[silk ridge]

💯

[north oyster]

Band 5 is the most dense, but I find that it also has the most dud scans too.

[proud jasper]

it does have a lot of bugged rocks

[silk ridge]

Band 3 is really comfy. Lots of markers ans lots of space to move fast

[proud jasper]

i'll try some band 3 today

[autumn cedar]

Haven't yet bumbled around band 3 might give it a go this weekend. Last few days I've been in 7 and 8.

[silk ridge]

I don't even consider them bugged. ... You have literally no risk ... so it's normal ro have to do a bit more.to find working rocks. 😆

[icy ibex]

What should i buy to go along a prospector please? I'm a newb at mining. (should I buy a head for specific stat?)

[silk ridge]

Lancet mining head and a Lifeline module (if you're new, the lifeline will safe your life, just use it when a rock overcharges)

[icy ibex]

I dont even know what these are.. I'm sorry

😄

The head is like a weapon component i should equip on the ship, right?

What about the module?

[arctic haven]

can ROC's only mine gems? no ore deposits?

[gentle acorn]

Ore deposits are too big for roc

[silk ridge]

You find Mining heads at refinery stores in the utility tab and you equip them in the utility slot of your prospector.

The modules are equipped to the mining head and - if they're active like the lifeline module - can be activated by pressing Alt+ 1-3 if needed.

Use the lifeline when a rock is about to blow up. it'll Literally safe your life :D

[proud jasper]

maybe if you stack enough of gadgets on the rock it can lol

[torpid mesa]

i think it can break smaller ore deposits with a gadget or two

but not sure if its able to extract

even if it does though a full load of quantanium would only be worth like 80k where a full load of had is 200k?

[proud jasper]

Thats a good point on the extracting part

yeah, gems are worth a lot more per unit

[torpid mesa]

also quant would be the wort thing to haul, its unstable and every little bump would decrease the time to detonation

[kindred anvil]

where can i sell hadanite dolivine

[torpid mesa]

all the mining locations on moons

[sly moon]

so i got an m2 hercules should i have gotten the c2 and will it m,ake much of a difference

[torpid mesa]

andadmin in stations i believe

c2 is the cargo variant the a2 is the bomber and the m2 is the military variant i believe?

[indigo wolf]

C2 has 696 SCU and less turrets that’s the only difference

[indigo wolf]

M2 is the drop ship variant

[sly moon]

okay so i lost 100 scu but when they upgrade it later it will be able to hold its own later

[indigo wolf]

When they add armor yeah

[torpid mesa]

so armor lockers and gun racks and jumps seats in the m2?

[indigo wolf]

I think it has another turret but I could be wrong

[sly moon]

also looks like it has 3 missle racks in the vehicle manager not put in yet

[indigo wolf]

Yeah all Hercules have that

My C2 has that

[torpid mesa]

only the a2 has the bombs though right?

or does it just have more?

[indigo wolf]

Yeah

It’s the only one with bombs

[sly moon]

wont be able to do my first cargo run till later tonight at 8pm since i got work in 30 min but i did get the upgrades from orison so im all set

ima dock it at hurston for later

[storm stone]

Anyone know how to keep ROC from overheating? rented one and it keep overheating

[harsh glade]

I can't speak for rented ROC. I ended up getting my own and upgrading the cooler and powerplant. It's on;y ever died on me once

[ancient star]

What modules do I use to solo a 7k quant rock?

[proud jasper]

most likely not going to crack that 7k alone but if you're good enough you can make surge/stampede work. Fair warning, its not easy

[floral fiber]

are vices illegal cargo?

[proud jasper]

yeah

[sly moon]

when i go into my starmap charting screen my cursor doesnt show lol

[cerulean lichen]

Netted 60k for my first non quant mining run.

[torpid mesa]

@ancient star if your using the prospector you can use a impact with a torrent 3 focus 3 and surge then bring a boremax gadget and maybe the wave one too

[proud jasper]

may have to relog for that one, not sure tho

[sly moon]

log out in the ship on the station i should be fine im ofgf to work ty guys for the help

[cerulean lichen]

I also completed my first quant mining run and had 1 rock fill my prospector about halfway with one rock to get 1700 quant ore. The rush to the refinery was definitely a adrenaline rush.

Does storing the ship stop the clock for quant or setting up the refinery process?

[silk ridge]

It'll stop the clock.

The refinery process has to be started by you in the refinery.

[proud jasper]

getting impounded works too (better imo)

[torpid mesa]

the best is when you start quantum and then space out get interdicted take a couple shots before you release and quantum again only to have 2 minutes till detonation

[proud jasper]

and then it explodes at 1:30 because why not

[gentle acorn]

If the explosion when ship explodes would be multiplied by the amount of quant on board lol

[cerulean lichen]

That’s good to know. Sure my first quant haul wasn’t big and still need to sell it, but it’s definitely a fun game play loop

[silk ridge]

Never had my Quant blow up.

[proud jasper]

i love it, don't always have to go for pure quant

[thorn spindle]

anyone tested the torrent 3 module with the lancet at all ? if so how much of a difference did the 4% power make ?

[proud jasper]

power should be at 1568-1574 depending on if it compounds or not with 3 of them. I'm not sure that adds much oomph

[gentle acorn]

I use 2 torrent and 1 focus. Not sure if it helps me or not lol

Didnt find too much of quant

[proud jasper]

if it the laser power scales linearly against mass and the limit with lancet is about 5500 mass, then 3 torrents should sit you around 6100-6200 mass.

[thorn spindle]

but thats alot of instability

i was hoping to use 2 with a brandt to tackle 6k+'s

[proud jasper]

i personally prefer 2x vaux-c3 and a brandt with my lancet. hit around .5 instability on 100% quant rocks

[thorn spindle]

whats the biggest rock you can handle with that set up?

[proud jasper]

it might hit 6k, i'm just assuming

others have said 5500, I've only asteroid mined lately and the biggest rocks are 5122

[thorn spindle]

gotcha

well i got things to test

[proud jasper]

Yeah, hard part is finding a static rock to test against lol

may need a buddy to save the position

[thorn spindle]

lol aint that the truth

i just leave a ship near a easy enough rock

that sometimes work

[proud jasper]

thats not a bad idea

[thorn spindle]

feel free to use it

just call it the big bang

[arctic haven]

if you eject your cargo can someone else pick it up in a different ship?

from a prospector

[proud jasper]

iirc, you can only jettison quant when its about to explode

[stable lance]

where should you go mining at the moment?

[proud jasper]

been like the belt. easy and haven't been hit by pirates at all

[stable lance]

I found out that because of scanning you can find more easily quant on lyria than in the halo

are many pirates out there ?

havent seen one since i started

[proud jasper]

lyria is great for quant. Pretty much only has quant rocks and the distribution is 6x that of asteroid mining. lot more variation tho

i mean i've never been attacked in the belt

[stable lance]

Is it more profitable than in the halo?

[proud jasper]

potentially. I use to lyria mine, but I prefer the chill space mining more now

[stable lance]

ok

[proud jasper]

sometimes rocks get stuck under the surface which is frustrating

[arctic haven]

have you guys been able to scan rocks in the belt?

I just got out to band 5 and I havne't been able to scan any of the 5 massive quant asteroids i've found

[weak hound]

Anyone need a scout? Running Lyria or the Halo

[proud jasper]

sometimes the rocks are bugged, can always double check in miner mode. Those ones you just scratch and move on

[silk ridge]

I disagree ... It's pure RNG

[jovial pasture]

anyone getting dupe

glitch

when adding modules

like i add them save them

and they stay in my local invtorty

but they are added to my ship

[silk ridge]

😆 I got my Terrapin duped 6x and my Pisces 3x ... including all modules that were installed. ... It's so annoying at the retrieval terminal

[jovial pasture]

lol

[silk ridge]

x_x and there's no way to get rid of those ships ... tried a reset but that game me another Terrapin dupe

[proud jasper]

haha, that sucks

[silk ridge]

I mean... I love the terrapin. It's hands down my most useful ship ... and I will pledge for one at some point, so that I never be without it again ... but still... 7 of them is too much clutter 😆

I wonder if CIG support can remove them ... might be worth a shot.

[high wren]

does a hard landing trigger quant to become more unstable? twice now with quant in my prospector i landed at arc L1 with a decent payload and well short of the timer expiring, my quant doesn't show up after i store ship and reach the tdd screens. first time i actually heard explosion, second i didnt but same result , no quant in my freelancer that i transported it in. the other ores were present both times tho

[proud jasper]

it does make it more unstable from my experience. Impounding is faster imo, it teleports you to the asop terminals in 30 seconds and stores the ship.

You mentioned tdd, do you mean the refinery screens? or the admin terminal in the galleria?

[high wren]

the galleria in area 18

only happened twice but both times i think my landings were a little less than perfect lol

[toxic citrus]

There ain't a galleria in area 18

[high wren]

tdd terminals

[toxic citrus]

Its either the plaza or spaceport

[high wren]

the plaza

you go in and they are on the right

[toxic citrus]

The TDD is at the plaza indeed

[proud jasper]

hm okay. So to be clear are you taking unrefined quant to area 18? Or to arc l1 to refine and then to area 18 afterwards?

[toxic citrus]

Uh

You cant sell unrefined quant to area 18

just saying

Well you can't sell it to any TDD

Only refineries

[high wren]

sorry tried to refine in arc L1 not showing up, sorry for confusion, was getting terminals mixed

[toxic citrus]

lol

[proud jasper]

Gotcha

[toxic citrus]

Happens

[proud jasper]

And it doesn't show up for a potential work order?

[high wren]

k, need to work on m y landings, not in work order, it was on ship as i stored it but not when i refine

[proud jasper]

or in the screen to the left for selling raw ores?

[harsh glade]

Is there a workaround for the ROC not collecting in extraction mode? I've tried M moed on and off, power down, exit.... I can pick the gems up by hand... but that's gonna take forever

[proud jasper]

Yeah, try doing an impound land (you don't even have to land just block a pad). It'll teleport you inside in 30 seconds and store your ship

[high wren]

k

[proud jasper]

Keep the extraction laser on one spot for a few seconds and see if that helps

you can't move it around to much or the server won't register it

[harsh glade]

I do that naturally. I pick a spot and wait for all gems to stop flying at me then I move. I think I need to restart. I just got back into the ROC and my right arm is over my head

[proud jasper]

lmao, yeah that may be a safe bet

[harsh glade]

Time to try logging out in the Nomad... fingers crossed

[toxic citrus]

You should be fine

I've been fine each time

At max sometimes had to switch server regions

That's it

[harsh glade]

it needs to be on the ground right?

[toxic citrus]

No

Hell no

Go out of atmosphere

[harsh glade]

oh good!

I have never tried logging out in the ship

[toxic citrus]

Always log out when out of atmo

Never on planet

[harsh glade]

why is that? I've only been playing about 10 days.... I have LOTS of dumb questions lol\

[toxic citrus]

To minimize bugs

You don't wanna try it tho

[harsh glade]

Copy that

[proud jasper]

I do it all the time, but you spawn in with your landing gear up and your ship rolling on its belly. So theres that lol. Plus the potential of spawning into another ship if y'all are both on the same landing pad at an outpost, and so on

[wraith cairn]

I once logged out in my cutty blacks bed with a ROC inside on a planet, logged back in, found some hadanite, landed, got into my ROC and drove out. Then my cutty just poofs out of existence 💩

[harsh glade]

I'm so happy that worked... I don't have to fly to a station at bed time any more

but now my Altimeter is bugged... syays i'm at 55,633m and according to pings I'm about 3km

[silk ridge]

My Altimeters are bugged at 118 ... no idea if it's meters or Kilometers ... it just says 118 😆

[tranquil fable]

if anyone is looking to make some quick money im mining in a mole and paying scouts 33% of anything they find over like 35 scu

[cerulean lichen]

Is the elevator on the raft just broken? It works to get into the ship but once inside I can’t use it to leave or move between levels. The control panel just has a green outline and no text if I hover over it once inside the ship

[tame bloom]

Is there any way to store carry-on cargo? Like in a ship?

[static cosmos]

Depends on the ship but most have lockers, cubbys, and other places.

[arctic haven]

so I was trying to crack a fatty quant rock with a surge

and I understand the surge does a 40% power boost or something, is it 40% of the current charge level?

I was also real close to the rock, so I think you all can tell where this adventure lead

[gentle acorn]

The quantanium wasnt nerfed to spawn less. It's just that scanner doesnt work the way everyone says. It doesnt fully work with 360 to 2 degrees

Got almost a mil in refinery within few hours

[sand saffron]

What do you mean?

[gentle acorn]

I mean when all youtube videos say to scan with 360 and then switch to 2 degrees scanner. To see multiple deposits. They dont always show up like that

I went around from spot to spot and found multiple deposits

I mean the scanner sometimes work but it's not 100%

[proud jasper]

iirc, it immediately gives it 40% charge (the white bar that goes up on the right, not the green/red zones). So two surges should slap it into red fairly fast and consistently

[hollow sedge]

what’s the maximum mass u can mine with surge, stampede and lancet mh1

[arctic haven]

so I was working on a 7600 mass rock with a similar set up

surge stampede + I think a focus III

I detonated the rock but if I were better I think I might have been able to crack it

[ancient star]

is 12% on a 3k quant worth it?

[quaint niche]

anyone want a plus one on a mining crew

[proud jasper]

Not really. However, to get an idea of how much you'll get out just multiply the mass by 2 and then that quantity by the percentage of quant. There are calculators online, but its fairly quick to find out on a calculator

so in your case the most you'll get is 7.2 scu out of 32. What makes them additionaly not worth is trying to scoop them all up at the end. Takes longer and you'll end up with a lot of garbage

[jaunty hearth]

Helix laser head looks OP, am I missing something? I'm not specifically looking to mine quant

With a filter module I feel like I could be cranking out some borase at Arc L1

[clever trench]

Has it been discussed that cargo between fellow friends / players will eventually be a thing? I'm a little confused cause I know as of now everything has to be done by yourself essentially. And I know the cargo refactor mentions piracy but I really want to start offloading quant to friends for them to sell instead of me renting ships that they already own lol

[tight pulsar]

been in the halo for almost 2hours, not a single rock can be scanned

how fun:D

[north oyster]

The Helix use to the only laser to use in the game, it could handle most anything in front of it. CIG then nerfed the Hades out of it, decreased the optimal windows to nothing and also introduced a 40% lag time delay in the controls. Now a 20K aUEC support laser never designed to be used alone totally owns the 108K aUEC top laser.

[north oyster]

that's about a 100k aUEC rock, you have to decide. I normally look for rocks above 15%

[ancient star]

and do you guys ever use gadgets?

[frail roost]

When's the last time you went mining? Because IDK what the hell you're talking about with that "40% lag time delay", and CIG actually balanced the lasers so there wouldn't be any one "meta". Most people just agree that the -resistance of the Lancet is awesome for solo mining.

[north oyster]

That's a server issue, I hear LIVE is having issues now. Also, if you check the outer bands where the density is lower, often less duds

[north oyster]

you're a smart one to try to fire a shot across my bow. Let's say I've been mining long enough to earn hundreds of millions of aUEC and also when no one had ever heard of the Lacent. Why don't take about 20 seconds to read the literature on the Lacent published by CIG and see if that description matches what it is doing in game. 🙂

[proud jasper]

Might mean the throttle response.

[harsh glade]

I hope that some day we can do suspension upgrades on the ROC

[north oyster]

sorry Dankey, sent msg to wrong person

[proud jasper]

haha, that'd be badass. They are changing up the wheeled vehicle physics here pretty soon tho

[north oyster]

When they finally add speed control to vehicles rather than ON/OFF for acceleration

[harsh glade]

Variable air suspension so we can tweak it based on the gravity of the moon/planet

I have speed control but only with my stick

[north oyster]

ooh, a Hover ROC

[proud jasper]

i use a stick, its actually super nice compared to like you said with a keyboard

[harsh glade]

In fact I just ordered a 2nd stick

[north oyster]

I use Dual sticks at this time

[frail roost]

Analog inputs for ground vehicle movement is so nice.

[proud jasper]

lol, like a bagged 4 wheeler

[frail roost]

I drive my Nova and Spartan with dual sticks

[proud jasper]

yeah, thats the only way

[harsh glade]

@proud jasper Exactly!! make this thing ready for the King of Hammers

[frail roost]

I'll admit I haven't read the actual text descriptions (assuming that's the "literature" you mean) since the Mining UI change, which is also when they reworked the lasers

[north oyster]

It's great to see the ROC get some love in this last build. Been a long time coming

[tight pulsar]

The raffinery elevater has killed me 3 times today aswell

elevator*

[frail roost]

refinery* lol

[north oyster]

I guess that's when I got a little salty about the Helix nerf and the meta of Lancet. The literature doesn't line up at all

[proud jasper]

my BiL competes in rc-rock climbers. He'd prolly play this game if there were ROC rock climbing events lol

[harsh glade]

I'd be super happy if I could put a mining laser on the nose mount of my Nomad... I really do love this ship. It's what I'd be flying if this was RL

[frail roost]

My org's done a couple rough-terrain Cyclone races in the past. Tons of fun.

[proud jasper]

thats pretty badass, I really hope racing events become a thing in this game like some form of GTAV thing

[hazy ice]

Hello guyz, what setup should i set on my mole for doing QT on planet ?

using lancet and vaux c3 + surge actualy

but not good on planet as deposit mass is bigger then space asteroid

[thin escarp]

i have a pdf with loadouts

pinned in this channel

@hazy ice

[hazy ice]

yep got it thanks 🙂

[river cove]

best place for starter roc mining?

I have the equipment but not any gadgets

armor roc etc

?

[harsh glade]

The moons around Hurston are deceent

Magda and Ita you can do in plain heavy armor

Arial and Aberdeen require environmental suits

[river cove]

I have Penbrok

[thorn spindle]

hit up asberdeen then

[harsh glade]

yup

[thorn spindle]

your gonna find quite a bit of quant

*hadanite

[river cove]

any particolar spots?

or just scan for multy rocks?

[harsh glade]

did you upgrade your ROC?

[river cove]

is a rental

[harsh glade]

ah

reantals are... ok, but once you make 100k buy your own and upgrade the power plant and cool.... it won't crap out on you anymore

cooler

[river cove]

ok I almost have the 100 so few more rocks and I can get it also my pladge ship is the cutty black

[harsh glade]

The ROC is only 55k

I forget the total cost of upgrades

use erkul games to select the best components that you can.. it'll tell you the cost and where to get them

[river cove]

ya I alrady use it for my ship

so in aber any spots will do?

[harsh glade]

usual rule of thumb is to QT to the mining outpost, then pick a direction and go a little ways away, then start pinging

fly about 800-1000 ft then fly in to see what it is

[river cove]

ok so HDMS are mining outposts correct?

the rocks I finde are to bei 😦

[hollow sedge]

you are living my dream

[river cove]

No I mean they to big for thr roc

[harsh glade]

You can't do the rocks with the ROC. you can only do the gems

You'll want Hadanite, or Aphodite... pass on the Dolvine

[river cove]

ya the one appear as diamonds on scanner?

[hollow sedge]

yes

[harsh glade]

yup

[river cove]

ya that what I'm say I cant find any lol

[harsh glade]

They are scattered,

just keep flying around pinging. I like to pick a direction on the compass and stick to it sig sag style

zig zag

[river cove]

ok thnaks for all the tips

[harsh glade]

NP. I'm new too. Still learning, but went straight to mining. I'm saving up for a Prospector

I Got the Nomad for my starter ship, Cave mined untill I could get a ROC, then I upgraded it, then I upgraded my Nomad... Prospctor next

[river cove]

ah there we go

dot some now will see

[harsh glade]

Are people ganking out there?

[river cove]

57% Hed

[harsh glade]

each nod varies

[north oyster]

ROC is about 172k aUEC at New Deal. You can't modify the components at this time. Default out of the box it is 100% for mining

You'll need the Pembroke armor set for Aberdeen

QT to OM-1 and dive down to the surface from there, it is always daylight under OM-1

[harsh glade]

ooo I didn't know about the OM1 and daylight

I was able to upgrade my ROC.... I put 2x Defiant PPs and a Tepilo cooler

[north oyster]

Ok, interesting. There are size zero components available but I wasn't sure that there was any kind of buff advantage to using them

There have been reports of coolers failing on the ROC, so that might be a good move

[harsh glade]

The PPs and cooler made a HUGE difference

[north oyster]

I appreciate the tip, I will be sure to check that out

[harsh glade]

I've only had it die on me once and that was on the 3rd consecutive run with no repairs

[north oyster]

Yes I'm normally sure to reclaim the roc after every two runs

[harsh glade]

too me an entire night on that moon to tansfer the Hadanite to my ship

[north oyster]

I would recommend going to an outpost pulling the roc out and then just selling the gyms there at the outpost

[harsh glade]

thats what I do now... had to learn the hard way lol

[north oyster]

This game is often a school of hard knocks

[harsh glade]

I love it... wish I could make real money playing it

[north oyster]

Mining is the lucrative to me

[harsh glade]

oh.. FYI.. New Babbage has the PPs and Cooler. One stop

[north oyster]

Thanks. I don't go to that side of the system too often, I'm due for a trip

[river cove]

HOW DO i SEE HOW MUCH i GOT IN THE ROC CARGO?

oops sorry caps

[north oyster]

When in mining mode

It tells you at the top left of the hud

You can harvest about 20 or so rocks before she's full

[river cove]

ya did about 7 is 1/4

[north oyster]

That'll be about right

[river cove]

veru odd position gems scater all over lol

[north oyster]

Stay out of the red over charge

Landscape will also cause scattered gems

[thorny sail]

where is a good place to mine hadinite im mining on daymar

[river cove]

ya is good mining with the roc I like it

[north oyster]

Go to OM-1 and dive to plant surface from there

[thorny sail]

ok bet

[north oyster]

ROC mining hasn't been viable since 3.13. I'm really glad to see it return

[north oyster]

Daymar is ok for hadinite but the hotter the planet, the more hadinite.

That's way Aberdeen is best

But you need the Pembroke armor set

[harsh glade]

which cost something like 50k

[river cove]

i HAVE AND i AM IN ab

ufff caps sorry

i got it in an event is in my hangar now

WITH THE GADGETS CAN WE CRACK BIG ROCKS WITH THE ROCK?

[harsh glade]

I think thats prospector and up mining

[thorny sail]

ohhhh ok thank you i have a pembroke set i just got it from doing a little bit of mining. i still have to rent ships and the roc to do it lol

[north oyster]

Pembroke armor cost about 15k

[harsh glade]

50... 15... they sound almost the smae =p

[north oyster]

As you have already found out, one trip and you earn back all your expense plus

[thorny sail]

thanks for the tips i really appreciate it!

[river cove]

o0h fack 30k

[gray turtle]

What’s the best trading route? Any suggestions?

[river cove]

now what?

did I just lost all? 😦

[harsh glade]

did the game crash?

I think I lost the first 6 half loads of ROC ming due to crashes

[river cove]

omg

so when I recall the roc nothing will be inside?

[harsh glade]

If you have to Claim any ship, all cargo is lost

I had to dial back my CPU clock and put my graphics card back to default before the game got stable for me

after loosing as many mining runs as I did.... you start assesing your hardware

[river cove]

no the game is ok the server crash was 30K

and here we go again omnother one

[thorny sail]

on arbedeen what spoot always faces the sun i cant find the om1

[harsh glade]

you will need to find other OM-# and jump around the moon

[thorny sail]

thank you !

[feral totem]

Go to OM1 or OM2. Those are at the poles. Then go to the side where the sun shines

[little pendant]

Will a ROC-DS fit inside of a normal Freelancer? Trying to figure out what to rent to fit one

I see that it'll fit in a MAX but I can't find info about the regular one since MAX isn't rentable

[hollow sedge]

any mining groups trying to take a novice and teach them?

[glacial oxide]

what quantum drive should i put on the prospector? (quantum mining)
someone sent me 5 mill on the last server so i could buy the ship (didnt expect it at all), but my game crashed in a jump so i didnt even get to say thanks D:

[vivid magnet]

Was it bigcox

or hugcox

I don't remember

they sent me 5million as well

[harsh glade]

I'm looking at it on erkle games... I think I'm considering the Colossus.... It's pretty slow, but it's got great range.

I don't have my prospector yet... ROC mining my way there. If range isnt an issue I'd get the Atlas

[vivid magnet]

hadanite, dolvine, and aphorite sell for a lot, but you don't get a lot of it

[glacial oxide]

im not sure tbh, but it saved me a week+ of farming for it

[glacial oxide]

yeah ill get the atlas. i thought about doing the fastest one, but i think the extra range is nice incase i forget to refuel

[harsh glade]

Collosus gets you a range of 106.29 @ 92,3363 speed

I have the Atlas on my Nomad and it's great with that Q tank

but in the Prospector it only gets a range of 77.3

[glacial oxide]

yeah, enough for a trip across the universe in one direction + a lot of trips from moon and back without refueling :p

[harsh glade]

I can't wait till I get my Prospector. I'm dying to do some asteroid mining

[faint shard]

Is the Hull A worth checking out?

[glacial oxide]

i heard asteroid mining is ruined because of the scanning change :/ i used to love that too, but seems like only planet/moons are "viable" now

[hollow musk]

http://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/

[vivid magnet]

Hull A carries four less cargo than the freelancer, and currently handles much worse than it. A fully loaded caterpillar has better handling than the Hull A

[viral shoal]

How often does the Grim Hex Admin terminal refresh so you can sell to them?

[vivid magnet]

what are you trying to sell?

[viral shoal]

My buddy is new and bought a load of drugs, I think it's widow and altitox

I don't really do hauling so I don't know myself

[vivid magnet]

the altitox will let you sell 100 per minute

I think updates every ten minutes

widow is 10 per minute

You can use SC Trade Tools to become an expert :>

https://sc-trade.tools/shops/Stanton > Crusader > Yela > Grim HEX > Admin

[viral shoal]

Thanks, I'll pass it along

[cerulean lichen]

I find so many quant deposits on calliope but they are all like 2%

[pallid lake]

something wrong with cargo? I feel like im either losing money or not making a noticeable profit

[river cove]

ok so what ever is in the roc now is the best mods so no need to change it

[cerulean lichen]

Maybe I just need to check out the other microtech moons for quant deposits

[faint shard]

Thanks a bunch! I've decided against it for now based off of what you said and some reviews.

[vivid magnet]

Yeah, even unloaded, the Hull A has difficulty hitting 100m/s

[hollow sedge]

what's a good ship for a prospector to transport the refined ore

[pallid lake]

I always rent a freelancer

[vivid magnet]

Freelancer, can hold two prospector runs

if you don't get any inert material

also able to be rented right at the refinery

[cerulean lichen]

I got a raft for my hauling but that’s a personal choice.

[vivid magnet]

raft me beloved,,,

[cerulean lichen]

My problem is just finding the good stuff in microtech system. I know they should spawn I just got bad luck😅

[pallid lake]

https://sc-trade.tools/shops/Stanton > Crusader > Yela > Grim HEX > Admin how accurate is this site? I swear i'm buying and selling what it recommends and losing money, 2 days not and I have not made a dime or noticeable few

[cerulean lichen]

Ehh I have had problems with it. Buy price at one stop was way higher then I saw but the sell price was the same

[rose cedar]

is this a bug i assume? i just saw it floating in space after cracking a rock.. my poor brandt module

[vivid magnet]

is brandt an active module?

[rose cedar]

it can be activated yes

[vivid magnet]

SC Tools gives averages

It must have depleted then

or did you get got by an overcharged rock

[rose cedar]

i just never notice it detaching when used.. no overcharge

[pallid lake]

I just started a run of Laranite, with 1.4mil in the bank, dropped and sold now only 1.36mil in bank? didnt even stop for a happy meal

[vivid magnet]

laranite should always be about five credits higher than it's buy cost?

Did you sell it at CRU l4?

L5 I mean

[pallid lake]

no trade tools said lorville

similar thing happened yesterday, filled a raft and lost money, wasnt paying close attention tot eh exacts and just went back to mining

figured I would give it another go tonight and same result

[vivid magnet]

I've never seen that problem

[pallid lake]

only reason I tried was lost 2 loads of hadanite today and needed a mining break

been a bad SC day

can I swap the mining heads on a rental prspector?

[cerulean lichen]

Nope

[pallid lake]

so is it even worth renting?

[cerulean lichen]

I mean it will work but not for quant mining

Or basically big rocks over a certain mass

[pallid lake]

well worth a try whats another 50k lost today

[cerulean lichen]

How do you keep losing money?

[pallid lake]

I wish I knew

[cerulean lichen]

Do some package delivery missions. Easy 45k once your at that tier

[north oyster]

Run scrap from Area18 TDD to ARC-L1

[pallid lake]

well had 1 full roc load of hadanite lost to disconnection, then the second was just under half cause I didn't want to risk more, then did a cargo run and somehow came out shorter than when I started, last 2 days been like this

[cerulean lichen]

I did delivery missions for my first 1.5 million. Take smaller steps then going for the big money making things

[pallid lake]

im at 1.36mil now was over 1.4

[north oyster]

I understand, the server hates me too. It's won't let me roll any Quantainium over 10%

[pallid lake]

lol Im just trying to get that last 800k so I can mine me some qt

[north oyster]

What cargo ship do you have?

[pallid lake]

raft right now

[north oyster]

Try Agricium from Ida

No Astertine

Sorry

Also titanium and gold from Lyria

[pallid lake]

you getting this from Sc trade tools?

[rose cedar]

finally found 46% quant

hate to leave leftover quant, but my prospector is chunk filled

but this was after 2 days of only 2-4% quant finds

[cerulean lichen]

Nice! I’m in that bad luck of 2-4% quant right now

[rose cedar]

my luck is only in halo

lyria so far hasnt given me anything above 4%

[pallid lake]

thats my only good spot as well

[vivid magnet]

delivery missions?

isn't that like 3000 per mission

how long did you spend doing that

[rose cedar]

8k

[vivid magnet]

I've found quantanium in the asteroid belt around yela

[rose cedar]

first lv2 cargo is 45k if i remember

[pallid lake]

I have not done any, I just roc mine and prospector mine when I had one

[vivid magnet]

Saves time going to HUR-L3

I think it's L3

Closest Hurston lpoint from CRU-L1

cargo hauling is that profitable?

I thought it was three cargo packages for 3k

[rose cedar]

i havent gotten past first lv2 cargo mission bc its bunker

[vivid magnet]

eh?

[rose cedar]

the first lv2 cargo mission is go to X bunker and retrieve 3 un-icon'd cargo boxes, after clearing it out for 45k

for me anyway

[vivid magnet]

but wouldn't you have to attack friendlies too?

or does it act like a normal defend the bunker mission

[rose cedar]

it is a normal clear bunker of a few hostiles

my issue was security npcs spawned in as i went down for another players contract... needless to say i failed

so two contracts in 1 bunker

[vivid magnet]

there needs to be instancing for these bunkers

so two players might be in the same bunker, but will never see each other because they have different missions

[rose cedar]

the player did come down next to me, a friendly, but security headshot me

[vivid magnet]

I meant for security NPCS and cargo and such

so that another player won't spawn security guards while you're still technically hostile to the bunker guards

[harsh glade]

Has anyone else had their ROC kinda slide even when on flat ground?

[vivid magnet]

me

[harsh glade]

It's been going on for 2 days now

[vivid magnet]

oh wait on flat ground

no

[harsh glade]

well almost flat

not steep enough to slide sideways

[vivid magnet]

sometimes it's difficult for me to tell that I'm on the side of a mountain in the ROC

the camera doesn't snap to the terrain, but the vehicle

[ancient star]

If I have my base prospector, would it be worth renting with a friend?

Like 1 custom prospector + rented one

would it be useful for Quant mining or just dead weight

[thorn spindle]

yea that works fine just make sure your the one breaking the rock

[sly moon]

everytime i try to get my m2 hercules loaded and to destination the game crashes idk what to do

i was gonna land in lorville and it crashed in hyper space

[devout comet]

Anyone wann do some prospector mining runs I've never done some before but know how (no mic)

[maiden tendon]

What is a good cargo ship that is the best on a budget

[harsh glade]

I'm a huge fan of my Nomad, but there are better more expensive ships out there.

[river cove]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I was at the outpost with the load to refine and ................................................🤬 🤬 😭

30K

[harsh glade]

Happened to me sooo many times

I had my ROC 3/4 full and it died (I forgot to repair on the last turn in. Then I realize that my H2O is at 15% .. go to log out in my ship and the menue is uin german I think... and they won't do anything... had 3 bottles of water in my leg armor.. couldnt drink them

[river cove]

no I have all but 30 k ..

[hollow sedge]

best mining gadgets to use along side surge?

[serene quest]

anything that reduces overcharge rate I'd wager

none of the gadgets seem to favor surge though it looks like

on a quick look in any case

[hollow sedge]

really? i would reckon the one which increases rate while in optimum or at least the optimal charge window would be a good match?

i don’t really know what overcharge is can you tell me?

[serene quest]

iirc it's how quickly the red builds up

Surge increases charge, and then doubles overcharge rate

[hollow sedge]

👀i see, guess it’s only a problem if you make it a problem ifyk what im sayin

[serene quest]

exactly lol

although, you may not ever need surge with the new gadgets

[hollow sedge]

oooh

i guess no harm in keeping a surge with ya just in case

i need to find people who have used this shit

[serene quest]

actually come to think of it

Surge might pair well with Sabir

though your green zone will shhrink

[hollow sedge]

is there anything that helps it to stay in the green zone

[serene quest]

Optimax and Waveshift

it's not so much "staying in" but it increases the optimal window size

[zinc flame]

hey all. spent about 2 hours mining yesterday, crashed and lost all the hadanite...is there any way to recover the mats?

[serene quest]

thoigh Optimax does reduce instability as well

but it'll be harder to crack due to the increased resistance, so surge might work well with Optimax too

[harsh glade]

Where can I go to buy a Prospector... preferable a show room so I can see it... I don't have the UEC yet

[main saddle]

At New Deal in Lorville. Near the ASOP terminals.

[harsh glade]

TY

[main saddle]

As you’re facing them, go through the doors on the right.

There’s a Prospector in the showroom you can check out.

[harsh glade]

Thanks agin. I've made my first Mil from ROC mining... but I'm done mining tonight. I just want to day dream before bed

[main saddle]

I hear ya. I made 500k the other night from 2 quant finds with my Prospector— it’s a money maker.

[harsh glade]

Nice!!

Wow... Lorvil is huge. This is my first time here

[main saddle]

Yep

Mercifully, the ship dealer is at Teasa Spaceport.

[harsh glade]

you weren't kidding... I need water...

getting lost on the metro

[vivid magnet]

if you can get a few modules that increase the normal charge rate, but decreases the overcharge rate significantly, you should be able to nearly go full blast on whatever rock you want without worry

[hollow sedge]

can you give some examples?

[vivid magnet]

no clue

the only module I've ever used was the one that decreases inert material collected

I'd go for the helix mining head, that already decreases resistance and instability, than find one that lowers overcharge rate

might not be perfect, but will hopefully slow the inevitable destruction

[rocky haven]

I'm in the Mole in the Belt mining, when scanning I can get the size of the rock at about 1.2k but I have to be as close as 150mtrs to be able see what it is? Is this the new norm?

[toxic citrus]

Yep

The new normal

[rocky haven]

😢

[north oyster]

checked the pin comment in this forum, there is a guide for Prospector laser configuration. Also there are two key places you will mine for Quantainium - Lyria and Aaron's Halo

[north oyster]

Yes, they totally changed the way Ping works in the game. Infact there is sort of a "deadzone" where the target vanishes before it reappears (roughly about 2200m). Fortunately the boxes from the distant pings are right on the target (as a rule)

[north oyster]

I would also avoid spending a lot on modules after you get your Lancet (Size 1) laserhead. The Surge and Stampede (if mining Lyria) is the lion's share of what you will need. Later on you may want to upgrade your QT. I'd suggest the Atlas or something in the top civilian class of QT engines. Good speed, good fuel range.

@hollow sedge One more tip: When the new patch 3.17.1 drops it may wipe all refinery jobs you have stacked up. You will want to clear your jobs and have them taken to market. If you don't own a ship (cutty or larger) then you will need to rent a ship to take the refined ore to market (TDD).
If saving up for a good freighter for doing this, I would encourage you to look at the Freelancer MAX. Best price to SCU for entry level. She cost about 2.2M aUEC and carries 120 SCU.

[valid mulch]

Anyone had a glitch with the Connie Taurus where it shorts you 20 SCU in cargo space. Rn I only have 151 showing as available of my 170

[torpid mesa]

@valid mulch are you sure there isn't something in the hold I ran into the same issue before

I had like 19 scu of quartz I couldn't do anything with

[gilded dock]

why does everyone use the lancet? according to the in-game description, it's a rather weak mining laser

[hollow sedge]

most stable

with others you will get large fluctuations and a very small optimum and so will be rather hard to break rocks

[knotty kiln]

Hey. When Im mining quantanium, when does the 15min timer stop? Only when I set up the work order, or storing the ship also stops it?

[hollow sedge]

storing stops it

[knotty kiln]

thanks!

[leaden vapor]

hey im new to cargo can anyone help me figure out whats right and whats not

[high wren]

Damn. Server taking a shit and my mining laser laggin all over. Just found a group of quant. Bout 6 or 7 rox with a few 30-40% but cant control power to laser due to lag. If i log out from ship will i spawn next to those same rocks?

[leaden vapor]

i dont think so no

[high wren]

Thats what i figured. Grrr. If i try im gonna esplode lol

[hollow sedge]

what's the best and most cost effective first time setup for the Prospector for quantanium and how much would it cost? I just got a prospector

[terse sable]

Just get a lancet mining head and Brandt or stampede modules any rock under 5k is doable

Anything bigger just ask for help breaking the rock and either tip or split the rock

[nocturne berry]

Is there protection for ground crew while loading cargo in hot zones; e.g. a sentry gun. I think light (0.25 SCU), medium (0.5 SCU), and heavy (1 SCU) sentry guns of both ballistic and energy, and with scatter variants. I could carry a container of and lay these on the perimeter of the loading area to cover me in hot zones while I load. Waiting for a Hull A Starter Pack before I jump in.

[hollow sedge]

Is there any other upgrades or ways to do rocks over 5k? I'm aiming towards 5.5k-8k rocks. I know where they spawn. Also, how about for coolers and power and quantum drives?

[terse sable]

@hollow sedge personally I always have someone with me when I mine lyria but 8k rocks need surge modules stampede modules. As for other upgrades I don’t have any in mine right now besides the mining head and I make 175-275k a trip Mining

[tight latch]

I wonder if they will ever add some sort of warehouse for raw minerals and refined materials

[topaz burrow]

Do the changes to scanning in 3.17.1 affect mining?

[icy ibex]

Hello ! What is the current status of trading routes ? Is it profitable? With a connie taurus or a C2 hercule for example?

[north oyster]

Trading is not in a good position and only favors the largest carriers like the C2.

[north oyster]

Most everything is about the same as 3.17 but as you know it's a huge change from 3.16.1

[icy ibex]

And even in the scenario of large carriers like C2, what would be the ideal scenario?

[north oyster]

Titanium, Gold, scrap and astertine

Scrap from Area18 TDD to ARC-L1

[icy ibex]

What tool do you use to check that ? I tried UECORP.SPACE but it looks different

[north oyster]

It's a short run, but about 20+K for the turn

SC Trade Tools. But use this for production quantity, not what you might earn

[icy ibex]

Im discovering the stuff but if i do a 10min trip with agricium, its like 200K the run for a C2

[north oyster]

That's about the best in the system at the moment

[icy ibex]

What i dont know about is the replenishment of unit you can trade

That for example

[topaz burrow]

Alright thanks. I knew it changed from 3.16 to 3.17 but the 3.17.1 PTU had some scanning changes so wasn't sure it affected it again

[north oyster]

My whole time in the testing I had been in Orison for the show. I know that they could tweak it a little because of some of the push back, but I've not heard or seen any data on that

[gentle ruin]

How viable is cargo running right now ?

[topaz burrow]

Thanks, appreciated

[north oyster]

It's not in a great place unless you have the largest ships

[gentle ruin]

fair

[north oyster]

It'll take you about a year to sell that

[icy ibex]

Because a lot of ppl try to do it?

[north oyster]

The buy back rate

Vice is totally hosed at this time

No body is running vice except in very small quantities

[north oyster]

For the C2, your best runs will be Agricium, astitine, titanium, Gold and maybe diamonds. Scrap is a good filler for a quick return

[deep vector]

Does scrap work?

Where to sell it?

[floral fiber]

You sell scrap at a few of the Lagrange point stations, CRU-L5 is my preference

Some of the buying points tho are woefully low on commodities right now

Astitine and Laranite for example

[cerulean lichen]

Finally finding my stride on quant mining. Dropped of 2 loads of quant ore at 2200 a load and should be done refining in an hour.

Calliope May have strong winds but it’s been a safe and calm place to mine

[scarlet rover]

what are you mining with?

[cerulean lichen]

Prospector with lancet mining head

[storm scaffold]

guys quick help

someone can help mine a rock on lyria haha

8000mass with 47 quant

i am crying

[lapis wing]

I really cant no more I am done I am mining for the last 2 houers with refinging etc. My cargo wouled have been so extreme high value and then my hull A got destroied by the retrive bug I couled cry it was full with dias, gold and Bexalite... and now I have nothing I spoend my last money in the refinging😭

is there anything I can do about this?

[north oyster]

Remember guys... Be aware of the coming patch next week. Time your refinery jobs and don't let too many pile up

Ferron might be best to use than Dinyx

[dark frigate]

What patch

[north oyster]

3.17.1

It might not wipe refinery jobs but it just might

Invictus Week starts 20th

3.17.1 will drop this week

for that event

[thorn spindle]

anytricks to finding quant in microtech i tried the multi rock thing from lyria but i keep getting shale and granite

anyone got some tips?

[golden roost]

Sounds like the rock I left alone yesterday because I couldn't make a dent in it lol

[main river]

what modules should i be mining with in my prospector? <stampede> <insert opinion> <insert opinion>

[thorn spindle]

surge brandt stampede is nice for most things

imo

Brandt = stability surge = more boom out your laser

[arctic haven]

so I just loaded my refined ore into a rented cutty, where do I go to sell the ore?

[topaz zephyr]

how much is needed to start mining

[thorn spindle]

closest main city

[thorn spindle]

you can get a roc mining cart for 200k give or take

need a ship big enough to carry it around

like a nomad or cutty

[topaz zephyr]

ok thx, im new so just wanna know how much i gotta save up

[thorn spindle]

that will get you started on the small scale

[topaz zephyr]

ok thx

[north oyster]

Most don't mine that system for Quantainium as a rule

[thorn spindle]

i think i just learned why

holy shit theres no quant i swear

[north oyster]

Lyria or the Halo is the best place

The moons around MT does have Quan but the weather is brutal

[thorn spindle]

i wanted to try mt because i kinda got used to flying in the shitty weather and lyria has been nothing but drame for me lately

but damn those moons fooked me

none of the lyria tricks work there

i found one pair of quant rocks on clio after about 30 mins on each moon

[zenith sail]

anyone want to go halvsies on a big Q rock? its too big for a solo prospector but itll fill 2

[main river]

sure

[rose cedar]

of course im at work when its offered

[serene quest]

Can't believe the servers are still borked

[latent latch]

Anyone else has the front turret of their mole just not powering on? its just bugged and the power on switch can't be found

[rocky haven]

Been using mine today just fine. Power On is still high up, top right.

[wise ibex]

Hey can anyone help me mine

[latent latch]

guess mine is just bugged

[hollow sedge]

what do you mean?

[willow girder]

Microtech moons have the most quantanium in the whole system actually.

[thorn spindle]

thats what i saw on the tradetools site

i probably had a bad run but i did not run into much at all

[faint river]

@willow girder you mine over there?

[willow girder]

I plan to again now that I have a prospector again.

[faint river]

I usually mine on Lyria I should give give a try to the moons around Microtech

[tight latch]

I wonder if they will ever add some sort of warehouse for raw minerals and refined materials

[north oyster]

For those who mine and have refinery jobs stacking up, when the patch drops it will wipe all those jobs. That could be millions of aUEC lost

[hollow sedge]

o tru

[north oyster]

And there's a good reason hardly anyone mines there

[willow girder]

which is?

[pallid lake]

Aparently he wanted to leave Lorville

is he now my cargo

[valid mulch]

It was a shadow update to implement human trafficking

[pallid lake]

lol he is still with me... starting the bids at 100k

[valid mulch]

Does he know how to mine with a ROC?

[pallid lake]

I was worried he was going to jack the ship while I was out mining

going to see if I can drop him in another city

tho who knows might break the code

[valid mulch]

Lol

Crash the server

Could just dump him in space

Actually can he die?

[pallid lake]

dunno, I was flying round with the ramp down

he didnt try to leave

[valid mulch]

Try shooting him

[pallid lake]

hmm no crimestat for me thanks

[valid mulch]

I'm legit curious if npc can die

Like ik some can, but since it's from loreville is it killable

[pallid lake]

im at cruL1 if you wanna party up, I will take you out if u wanna kill him

[valid mulch]

I'm currently out at my fav Chinese restaurant with a flat or I would

[pallid lake]

I sat on the pad at EH for like 20 minutes and it didnt auto store my ship

[valid mulch]

Free parking?

[pallid lake]

just landed on a random pad at crul1 without getting impounded

[valid mulch]

Nice. He must know some people

[dark frigate]

I've got a rock i need help to crack anyone wanna come mine?

[hollow sedge]

how do you find small rocks for the mining tool

[dark frigate]

go to caves

[hollow sedge]

only place?

[dark frigate]

havent really done it that much so idk

How much money u got?

and what ship

[hollow sedge]

just a box and mining tool

[dark frigate]

?

wdym

[hollow sedge]

a storage container and the handheld mining tool

[dark frigate]

Howm uch money do you have

and what ship

[hollow sedge]

titan

i got 35k

[dark frigate]

i would do some illegal moniter missions with your ship instead

or bunker missions

[potent lance]

is the rented prospector a waste of money and time ?

@hollow sedge if you can, do a couple of quick missions and rent a cutlass and ROC and go mine hadanite on daymar. gives you 220k each full load

[hollow sedge]

this guys is walking me through renting a prospector

i had just enough for a day and some supplies

with his help

its 51k to rent

[potent lance]

i rented a prospector and its been a waste of time so far

tried different planets and everything, finding that 1 rock that pays is harsh, specially when its cheaper to rent a ROC and cutlass and do hadanite which is easy to find

[marble crater]

Rental Prossy is pretty bad. Need to team up with another miner

[pseudo echo]

just got this game. purchased the Freelancer. whats the best cargo to haul for good cash

[potent lance]

yeah im more tempted to just fly it straight into the ground and go get my ROC

i was saving up to buy a prospector but using the rental prospector pretty much made me lose any lust to buy one XD

[marble crater]

The rental has that effect lol

[thorn spindle]

rental is crap since you cant do anything to the laser

[potent lance]

but i know if i buy one i can change laser and do quantanium

[thorn spindle]

yea

[potent lance]

but yeah the rental really killed all my motivation for mining XD

if i spent those 3-4 hours with my ROC / Cutlass instead i would probably have had enough money to buy the prospector and the laser already 8|

lesson learnt ;P

[thorn spindle]

yea I had the same situation

buying one definitely made up for it

but it took a while to get into mining again for me

[valid mulch]

Probably starting out scrap

[pseudo echo]

so just find locations that sell it, or can I collect scrap somewhere

[devout comet]

Anyone wanna do some mining runs in prospectors?

[valid mulch]

Sell it at cru l5

[pseudo echo]

and I buy the scrap.. or are there locations to just find it

[valid mulch]

Drug labs and scrap yards are broke. But scrap from admin terminals at various locations. Don't buy if price is above 1.4

[pseudo echo]

ok cool, thanks. played for about two hours. most of that was trying to figure out the million buttons on the keyboard. almost blew myself up landing in a hanger (forgot to put my landing gear down) things got crazy

[valid mulch]

Sent you a tool to use

[stoic moss]

How can i put Loose Chests into the Cargo slots on the bottom of The AURORA ?

[shadow nebula]

Where do you find quant?

[floral fiber]

making money on cargo is tough with a smaller ship, it'll be slow to start just fyi

I'd more recommend doing the roc/hadanite mining system, since your freelancer can carry a ROC

you'll make several dozen times more aUEC/hr with that over doing cargo runs

[north oyster]

If you've not rented it, do not do so. It is a great trainer and you will learn the basics but you won't make back the funds you spent (or barely). Like others said, the rental for a Cutlass Black, ROC and some Pembroke armor will earn you way more.

[north oyster]

Lyria and Aaron's Halo are the main places

[floral fiber]

you can easily make 50k/hr when you're learning, and after you know what to look for when searching for hadanite you can make 200kish/hr (give or take)

some luck is involved

probably more like 125k/hr, but still, play for 4-5hrs and you'll have sextupled your investment

[north oyster]

steep learning curve but worth the effort, just remember, this isn't a game. This is a sandbox demonstration we get to play in as they develop it.

[floral fiber]

I mean, this seems pretentious. it's definitely a game

an incredibly detailed and ambitious simulation-style game to be sure, but still a game

[north oyster]

Then measure your expectations, because you're going to have the chance to be disappointed many times over

[floral fiber]

that's fair

[north oyster]

At this time, Trade only favors the massive ships like the C2, CAT and Carrack. Bounty Hunting is good earning, Mining is good earning.

The Cargo Refactor arriving (in some manner) in 3.18 will change trade on a massive scale

I'm thinking we should see Alpha 4.x towards the end of this year, but I was thinking that last year also

Invictus Week this year is going to be interesting. Orison is going to tank a lot of computers. Just remember to turn off the Cloud volumetric setting. I went from 11 FPS to over 30FPS when I did that.

[floral fiber]

I thought Invictus was happening on ArcCorp at Area18?

[thorn spindle]

all the info they dropped show's orison

[weak hound]

Can confirm, Invictus is Orison this year.

[harsh glade]

Do you guys know if the tractor beam attachment for the multi tool will gather gems while hand mining?

[north oyster]

That is a great idea, no clue if it will

[thorn spindle]

i actually never tried that

time to do some testing

[harsh glade]

I think I might give it a go too

[thorn spindle]

Im gonna have to update in a while

cant summon any ships right now

[harsh glade]

I spawned outside of the room in a-18... ended up being on a ledge and having to jump to my death... atleat I could strip naked and put my armor in the station storage

[cerulean lichen]

I found a 45% quant rock but it’s to big for me to break🙁

[lunar hemlock]

You in a prospector?

[cerulean lichen]

Yep and using the lancet. Doesn’t matter anyways, I 30k error crashed so can’t even mine the 30% nodes next to it

[lunar hemlock]

Damn

[harsh glade]

Damn it.. I spawned inside the wall again

What is the right way to report bugs like this

and other things

[gusty wren]

Which planet is best for Quant mining? About to rent a prospector and buy some gadgets

Lyria?

[cerulean lichen]

Haven’t found good quant again

[harsh glade]

if you google redmonster gaming mining cheat sheets, you;ll get all the info you need

[gusty wren]

These don't seem to be updated for 3.17. Does that matter?

[harsh glade]

I don't think so... they didn't change where the minerals are

[gusty wren]

Okay, I'll rent the prospector at area 18, then fly back to Mt to mine

Is there a refinery near mt?

[north oyster]

MIC-L1

[gusty wren]

Cool, and it has a Quant increase

Can't rent prospect at area 18 anymore

[vivid magnet]

I think you can only rent mining vehicles, and maybe the refinery vehicle soon, the expanse, at refinery points

[vivid brook]

can the raft be used to run refined ore?

[pallid lake]

yes, at least its one of the options when Im collecting

[vivid brook]

cool ty

[pallid lake]

I have not trusted it for cargo yet, it handles like a brick stuck in the mud

[vivid brook]

I only tried flying it once to see how it handled, and got the 'random explosion' bug lol

[pallid lake]

I really only had handling issues in atmosphere, having vtol does seem to help some

[hollow sedge]

can someone teach me how to mine?

[sacred swift]

Is there a way to see how much I have mined on the ROC?

Or is there like a prompt?

[feral totem]

The quantity will show up on the top left side of the HUD. Capacity is 8 SCU i think.

[sacred swift]

Got it. thank you!!

[deep vector]

Check pinned messages

[deep vector]

All ARGO ships fly like a brick

[cerulean lichen]

Finally filled my prospector with 1 rock of quant!

I almost got all of it as well. What stunk was there was 5 other rocks nearby with quant ranging from 20-30% that I had to leave untouched

[deep vector]

That’s why I wanted mole so bad

[vivid magnet]

isn't the prospector supposed to be able to carry hundreds of SCU technically, with it's bags that will come with the expanse?

[weak hound]

Anyone need a scout?

[karmic socket]

Where did you find these rocks? Quantanium has been so scarce…

[hollow sedge]

welp

170scu of refined quant suddenly disappeared

[brisk fern]

What’s the best and most profitable thing to mine in a stock prospector?

[weak hound]

Try to be nice to someone and get blocked. Seems about right.

[weak hound]

Congrats!!!

[junior peak]

can you mine quantanium with a rented prospector?

[quaint niche]

its almost impossible, i tried

[keen cedar]

What should I be running on a prospector for Quantanium mining? Just tried mining with a Lancet on Lyria, all the quantanium rocks I found were too big to crack...

Around 5k mass was the smallest. Didn't find any smaller than that with decent quant %.

[vivid magnet]

i just used a basic prospector with a filter module

it is not easy

it takes a long time to get the rock up to charge levels, and than it's fight or flight to keep it from overcharge

[blissful rain]

whats the best place for prospector mining these days? i tried lyria but struggling to find quantanium now. i see most;y fluff and some gems but not much quantanium. has it been nerfed recently?

[vivid magnet]

I've seen quantanium at HUR-L3, a lot of it, and some quantanium asteroids at the yela asteroid ring

[blissful rain]

ahh nice

[vivid magnet]

CRU-L1 has a quantanium bonus, and it's pretty quick between HUR-L3 and CRU-L1

[blissful rain]

quananium bonus?

[vivid magnet]

maybe cutting it a tiny bit short

Yeah, it has a bonus to yield

[blissful rain]

o u mean on the refinery

[vivid magnet]

what you get from refinig

[blissful rain]

nice

does places like daymer and celline have quantanium?

[feral totem]

Starr Streams recommends upgrading the cooler and power plants on the ROC. What would that do?

[glass thorn]

hows running cargo v7

[mental forge]

Where do you mine on Lyria

[mental forge]

Because, if you mine at a hotspot like SAL-2, you won't get a good rock for a good while

Just mine at any other surface location and you should get a rock in 10 mins tops

[keen cedar]

I found a decent amount on Lyria. Couldn’t crack any, but I’m pretty sure my issue is I forgot mining modules. Got a lancet, but didn’t get any of those upgrade modules. Maybe a gadget would help also

[mental forge]

You should be able to crack rocks till 7k with relative ease with 2 surges and a stampede on the lancet

[keen cedar]

Yeah that was my problem then. I had a lancet but forgot the modules, could barely crack a 5k.

I guess those modules make a big difference

[mental forge]

You can crack rocks till about 5.5k without modules

[keen cedar]

Yeah but it took forever

[blissful rain]

Bear an outpost

[mental forge]

If you fly a few km away from the more popular ones, you should be able to find rocks easily

[blissful rain]

O yea that's what I do

And I struggle

[mental forge]

Just go to random outposts then

[blissful rain]

Yea that's what I do bro

I jump to a random outposts

Be in sal, a mining one or some random one

All the same

Last time I spent 45min looking and gave up in frustration

[mental forge]

I do the same but I find rocks relatively fast

Did you read up on the scanning changes?

[blissful rain]

Yea but it's flawed

It said that if u narrow your scanning and u spot one that detects more than one rock, it should be quantanium

Well it's not

It's gems

[mental forge]

If the rocks you detect are practically on top of each other, then it's gems, otherwise it's quantanium unless there isn't a further ping in that 2 degree field

[blissful rain]

Yea

It's jus all about luck

Most of my org mates having same issue

[nocturne python]

Anyone got a good route for my freelancer MAX they can recommend? I just bought it, its my first cargo ship.

[blissful rain]

Only one of us is so lucky. He always finds something within 10min

[mental forge]

Bounty hunting may be more consistent for money

[hollow sedge]

guyss

Need some help, could not find online

Ive just done some first mining with my ship flew back to port trying to sell but there was nothing to sell

what am i doing wrong

[blissful rain]

Yea i may give up on mining and just do bounties

On a vanguard harbinger it should be doable?

[keen cedar]

Yeah you'll do fine with that. Any of the vanguard series is great for bounties.

[dark frigate]

Anyone wanna come mine with me on Lyria? Tag me

[vagrant horizon]

@dark frigate never mined before im down

[mossy fern]

well this is the best prospector load I will ever have.....