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think they will add a new courier ship with 3.18? seems like the msr is currently a must have for courier progression
That's odd.. Modules do not show when you don't have the mining head. Why that is not there though I do not know
i love not being able to scan some rocks
Yeah it's pain
Rough, then I don't know :/
Not certain..
How come the connie taurus has almost double the SCU of the andromeda but it only has a tiny bit of room extra to store stuff? Visually it makes no sense
I mean a char reset should fix it, but don't know how that effect stuff like refinery
No idea but true hahaha
Ahh
its a ingame bought prospector
Im aware but its tiny. Not another 90+ SCU worth of space haha
think thats gonna effect anything ?
it be like that mang
RAFT needs a ladder to the airlock lol
yeah was annoyed by that yesterday, kept exiting through airlock 🙂
yeah not an option when u wanna pick up freight from a moon base and stuff :/
yikes
actually, multi tool+tractor move some items under the airlock and make impro stairs 🙂
imagine paying 150eur for this
thing was reviewed like 5 months ago
alright actually the external elevator button does seem to work with some luck, so im gonna risk buying a full freight of cargo and pray i can get back in 
Small carriers like RAFT, Hull A, etc have no home in the ‘verse for now
videos seemed sad, but im trying to see if the trade site is accurate
stuff like this
Laranite is only found in very small quantities
The generating rate, demand across all servers, means it’ll never be ideal
Casual, skilled / pro miner looking for a mining organization to join
any takers? 😄
Titanium, gold, astatine, etc are available
Chat with @thin escarp

hard to think if med freight will even be worth it
Medical supplies buy back very small and slow
Nine Tails Lockdown is the only exception
anybody know where i have to land at the orphanage for it to get my ships cargo?
theres no landing pad here
right next to it as u can see, went inside, but the terminal doesnt detect my ship at all
even tried landing pretty much on top of it 
Anyone have a well developed spreadsheet for multicrew mining profit share/tracking?
What would you guys reccomend for a good starter hauler ship (in terms of cargo space and price) ?
Freelancer max.
120 scu
2.1mil
Thank youu
nvm i went to sell on lorville and autopilot took over, i exploded immediately and lost my 100k investment
epic game
Hauling is useless until they implement quanta fully. Or until they give uses to all of these commodities
lost 80k the other day from asking for landing while going scm towards the landing zone, live and learn
good thing i have runner rep and can do 2 missions to get that back
Is there a way to swap out a used module for a fresh one?
When I try it in the vehicle manager it just puts the old one on with low charges
What ship do you have with the best cargo ?
c2 hercules
Go on Wala, buy all the Laranite and Diamond you can, sell it a Arcorp.
where wala is?
ArcCorp.
A mood around Arcorp indeed.
ty
Guys if im in ARC L1 and i store my quantum to my ship, and then take out a different ship to fly to area 18 and sell quantum is that possible? does ARC L1 count to the local inventory for the area 18?
What
ARC-L1 is a completely separate station
Pluuus cargo was NEVER shared between stations
oke was just making sure
Only player items
oh really I've read people take a different ship when doing quant runs to trade station
so minimize risk
to*
from local ports
And if you did this the quant would be destroyed in the claim
Used to....
Just saying
btw Lyria was good indeed for finding quant ty for the suggestion
Mmh
The Low Orbit stations around the planets NOW do not share inventory with the city before (and vice versa).
After the quantainium is refined, you can't use the Prospector to transport it to the market to sell. You have to use a ship that does cargo. The smallest ship you can use is the Cutlass Black. The cutty will carry one Prospector load per trip.
anyyone else keep getting sucked into the refinery elevators and dying?
3.17 is a death trap (sadly).
He was talking about before it's refined. When it's still volatile...
just going to set my medical at each station before i visit refinery from now on -.-
i think i've died liek 30 times by that damn elevator can'tfigure it out lol
what would be a good Loadout now with 3.17 being out for Prospector?
The elevator issue use to also be related to how fast your system was responding to the game and loading. A combo of access to the media and also the network. Not to insult, but I am assuming you are running an SSD drive, correct? And at least 16gb of RAM?
The previous builds still hold. The pinned article at top has some good options to consider.
I do wish we could cut out the refinery part of the game loop like the old days, LOL
5900x , 32gb 3200mhz ram, rtx 3080, 1gb fiber internet
SSD nvme
nothing lags in the game though, it is smooth even on 4k
Have you checked the Issue Council and maybe contributed to tickets that may have the same problem? Also try changing region. I had an issue where I was spawning outside the station when I was on the US servers, I had to switch to EU
@north oyster sorry trying to find the article were is it located?
seems to happen on both us and eu, I"ll take a look
it literally tries to teleport me into the elevator through the flooor even though I walk away from it
if I don't jump, I go right through the floor its like a blackhole
look at the Pin at the top of this forum, there are a couple of articles
which station?
happened at hur l1 and arc l1
ohh i found it thx
just at the refinery level
I've not even been down to the refinery yet this build. The server I was on Saturday hated me so I didn't find anything in the Halo over 2%. Found plenty but no good rolls of the dice
I'm at CRU-L1, I'll run down there and see if I find the same result. I can probably run to the other two places also and test
Does star citizen stop work at the time of an update
Miners pack? Thoughts
So does star citizen stop working at the time of a update
@vernal halo CRU-L1 was clear, did have a lag when elevator arrived but no hole. Used both elevators
best place on lyria for quant?
Whats the difference between all the component tiers? Civilian, Industrial, Competition, Military and Stealth?
So, what's the secret to getting the RAFT's elevator to work?
You can look on Erkul website to compare. Speed, fuel efficiency etc
At least on the mobile website, it doesn't include all the variables. Why not use all Military all the time? Looks like they all provide the best performance
So a warning to my mining peers. Overcharge is not like it was before, it goes critical almost immediately.
You are not wrong, other stuff is situational, military is almost always best-in-slot
It will go into the red, but even if you let off, it will keep charging and blow. Seen it enough times to know that it is something different.
That's mainly because they implemented the module qualities, but didn't fully implement all the stats, like them wearing out.
Really have to throttle it down when you get close to the green to prevent a hiccup.
Although industrial is cheaper and works decently on non combat ships btw
Industrial has good hp and all that but cant take the disrupter damage, does not have the fast reboot times, but that does not matter on my MOLE or Cat
Yeah, some of it can be worth it for traders and miners
agree, if you think it is likely you will be attacked the disruptor hp is very nice and so is reset time especially on shields and qt
and example on the S1 Qt drive is the Voyage is quicker than the Atlas
Pallisade shields can take more ballistic damage. There is a few things
Depends what your into
Yeah exactly, but I assume there are popular distinctions between each flavors of components. I was wondering what they were
Got ya, not 100% sure. I just use what I think is best. I run pallisades and Voyage on all my Light fighters. Others may do different
What cargo is the best to run? It seems like Laranite and Argricium are always sold out or have very little quantity
Lyria, anywhere
thanks
I feel like Lyria does not have much after the patch, same with the Halo, currently trying Wala
There’s still plenty quant around
Titanium, gold and med supplies are good to fill up on after small amounts of Laranite/Agricium
Does anybody have any resources on the scanning changes?
Anyone know where I can sell those random crates found at wreckages?
I'm at the admin building but they aren't accepting the cargo
There was a nice video posted the other day. Lemme see if I can find it
If anyone here runs mining fleets regularly. How do you go about paying people? Do you do a wage per amount of time or spilt it on the value of the cargo?
if u find it lmk, that would be great!
I found this while out in a mole with some friends, hope this helps ya o7
there ya go
where is the best place to sell hadanite
You can sell them at the terminals at the outpost on the planet you are on or you can sell them at the Admin office of the space station
anyone cargo?
ROC Mining ROCKS!! What a blast, and the ping works fantastic. I have picked up deposits as far as 2500 meters
I discovered one important trick, the gem deposits don't vanish as you approach them as the large deposits do
thanks fo the help
I sold about 180K aUEC in hadanite gems tonight. it was a lot of fun. Not as fast money as Prospector mining but all the more fun though
Aberdeen, I QT to the OM-1 orbital marker and then dive down to the surface. They have fixed the Altimeter also
It is always daylight under the OM-1 marker
good to know
What do you mean by this Exo? Looking for routes, ideas, ships?
i got some good one to make a tons of cash
oh?
need a buddy to fill up cargo with me , i have 174 scu and the place im loading have a shit load more so any interested ?
Gold at Lovecraft? She seems to be an endless supply there
Humbolt is good too
Also, can't make a ton of cash with 174 SCU ... unfortunately trade only favors the large carriers
For now
Titanium has been popular and Astertine on Ida is good also
i know the places to get big money , im looking for a friend to load all that big stock
There won't be an laranite unless the server is broken
i buy for 70k and sold for 148k
nice
So there is a stock that offers over 50% in game, aye?
Now, I have bought for 230K and sold for 998K aUEC before
somehow ya at certain timing
for specific ressource because i couldnt believe i made so much cashj
hopefully we get contracts soon for freight
I could see that if Quanta was working but it is only dong R&R at this time
Agreed Monk, when I get my Hull C that is what we will need
having a little harder time than he made it seem
With the Prospector Matt?
are you guys using sc-trade-tools?
ya atm using prospector trying to learn the new scanning
website for cargo
I use SC when I want to verify refresh rates of inventory being generated
it's not terrible, but it's not great. The main thing is that there is a "blank" spot from about 2200 meters until you get within about 800 meters
Are you mining on Lyria or Halo?
atm lyria. My main spot is usually halo tho
yeah, me too, but the server didn't like me the other day. I couldn't find an Quan over 2%. No luck rolls of the dice for me
Lyria has been hopping
i had a pretty good system for halo mining before, but doesnt look like itll work now
just fly decoupled and scan
it doesnt seem like i can scan mass from a distance anymore
I had no issues doing that
anyone know where i can spaw a roc on daymar?
find an outpost with a Platium Bay building and pads
Any outpost with a landing pad will have one
ok thanks
you'll see one of the buildings with two small pads next to it
Aberdeen is best for hadanite but Daymar will work
ok
The thing is that on Daymar you can get by without extra heat protection
On Aberdeen you will need the Pembroke armor set
ALSO be sure to have plenty of water and food. The decay rate is awful for us now
ok thanks for the info
got i t
are you able to trade with someone else's ship?
rain check? I would love to run some cargo with someone sometime, but just can't right now.
sadly, not yet - not with commodities anyways
The closest we have to that right now is refueling, or just carrying in crates of guns/ammo
ok
So I just bought a C2 because I'm tired of making multiple trips to sell refined quantanium in my cutty... In theory.... The C2 holds 692 SCU of cargo or 692,000 cSCU. If I was to fill it full of refined quantanium the pay out would be $60,896,000 give or take. Which is a wild thought 😂
Hull C or Cat
I think it’s more like 696x8,800=6,124,800
The C2 has 696 SCU and 1 SCU of refined quant is 8,800aUEC Idk tho I could be wrong
You're right. Killem was off by a factor of 10. 1 SCU is 100cSCU, not 1000 (that would work if it were mSCU)
Q: How do I keep my C2 from de-spawning while loading it up with vehicles from an outpost?
Is using a C2 to carry a ROC around for ROC mining overkill? Lol
It shouldn't?
Not if you also take a Ballista for air defence 
can anyone give me a basic rundown on prospector quant mining?
i got everything like modules and a mining head
point laser, increase charge, keep charge in green box until it fills up, do it a few more times and extract the goodies
mining r weird now .. not justscanning but all mined turning to inert in ship storage and when goin set work order still show inert in ship storage but then will show all mined ores right where you do last settings for work order
Yes, its a bug. The refinery will recognize the inert as the real materials though
So it's just a visual bug
don’t i have a time limit?
with quant rocks?
yeah that’s what i was talking about
how do you fill up your storage before the time
before that you have all the time you need
Break all the rocks and afterwards take everything
go back
okay
so no matter what i’m probably not gonna get a full storage
how much does that make you anyways?
usually when you do one run
of 15 mins
32scu is roughly 275k
if refined
so 275k per 15 mins?
No
Refining process?
no
Refining process speed depends
mining it
where would you find the best quant rocks
dont really know where that is haha
Lyria is on ArcCorp
but uh so im thinking about grinding up to 2 mil aUEC so i can buy the prospector, currently i can rent the roc and transport it with the cutty black, where would be the best place to mine with the roc in that case?
Lyria/daymar
ok so basically, I fly with cutlass black near the surface of the planet while pinging right?
how do i do that?
Tab
ohhh
okay, last question can i theoretically store the mined rocks inside the cutlass so that the mining runs last longer?
Yes
You can take the gems out of the ROC
BUT
Considering how unstable servers can be
You should sell them each full run
oh okay thanks
200k for a full ROC
Ah, how much SCU is that?
SUEC?
And that's 200k in Had?
dayum
No, 200k money for full Hadanite load of ROC
Yeah aware, didn't know it was that much
It'll take you anywhere between 1 and 2 hours depending on luck. That is if you mine on Auberdeen ofc
wait so lyria isnt good for hadanite mining?
because when i was on aberdeen istg every ping ended up being like rocks and not gems
if you know what i mean
I know
And it seems they fixed it
Haven't seen a single deposit like that and I mined yday
Aberdeen it is
okayy
Well lyria is defo good for quant
Aberdeen is densest in hadanite of all moons, Arial is second best iirc
But get a Pembroke or you'll fry
okay thanks guys
Yeah pembroke is a requirement for any ROC operator
You can get away with that greycat suit, but you'll have to go back into the ship every 2-3 rocks, which is very annoying
Yep.
What's the best thing to mine in a prospector besides quantanium? For if I'm not feeling dealing with a time constraint on a particular session. Or is the difference in profit between quantanium and #2 so vastly different that it's only ever worth doing quantanium runs?
Second best minable is like 1/2 of quants value
I highly recommend not to
What would be the most reliable trade tool currently?
A C2 =]
You're a funny guy, Vader. I'm gonna trade you last
Where should i go mining with ROC?
Sorry, i was being serious. About loading up a C2 for trading
I meant trading tool as in app with prices of goods
ive been told aberdeen or lyria
Ya im going aberdeen
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How do you do fellow miners
Doing good, learning the ways of the new Ping
Closer to 275K aUEC
That's for 1 SCU of Hadanite tho, no?
Yeah, but isn't Hadanate 275 a piece?
Idfk lol
Making it 275k for full SCU, not 0.8
sec
Each gem is 275, times 800, so maybe 242K aUEC. I need to check
Ah, ok, probably changed from 3.13. ROC mining was killed in 3.14
Mining meta would change quite a lot if prospector could do that
Hada and quant have quite a big price difference
If you crack more three rocks your game tanks in FPS.
mmh
I found three hadinite rocks on a slope last night, cracked all 3 to pick up at once. It got a little rough
Well... you can crack rocks with a Prospector and pick the gems up ... a bit tedious ... but good pocket moneys
A full prospector hada load is 880k
Jeezus
if it was possible
I can imagine mole 
I use to use the Prospector to crack and others scoop, I think CIG changed a few things to make that not so good
mmh
Tho i gotta say having 2 lancet prospectors is really good
You can just apply the laser with 0% power and the optimal window is so much better
That’s what the Lancet was designed for, support laser
I've been out doing deliveries, looting all the foods and water so far. Last trip mining sent me right into an Asteroid xD
I miss the Helix, they did it wrong
For its price, i'd imagine so
Yep, a 108k laser gets totally owned by a 20k laser. Makes perfect sense
Imagine the outrage if they re-balance the lasers ... 
Ppl. lost their minds over scan-meta ... 
Actual footage of miners in SC when they touch the lasers:

I mean
If they touch lasers they'll die

You really don't wanna go infront of one

It’ll be coming, the Lancet was never designed to take center stage
Handmining
Oh yes, massive cave systems with just Hadanite, everywhere
I’m just happy to see ROC mining get some love
Yeah
It did?
I like ROC mining, but having to constantly transport the ROC is annoying AF
I had a blast last night mining in the ROC
Pretty sure the hada deposits are more common now or smt
I just want a ROCable cave with plenty of Hadanite
Well... let's put it that way: Hard hits and rebalancing is to be expected if you dabble in the highest earning, low risk money making meta 🤣 It's annoying and sucks ... but it's unavoidable ... and in the end nothing to loose your marbles over... 🤣
I mean
Get the MAX, makes ROC mining fun
High earning, low risk jobs are balanced by being boring
They went balls deep with its nerf
Tru dat
Non-combat work should always be more profitable
Eh, i personally don't find mining boring
It doesn’t matter to me, just offer a viable and fun game loop
It's not boring enough for you to not do it for sure, but let's face it, mining is not exactly a riveting adventure
Working the planet’s surface is a fun place
Prospector mining is my money tree, ROC mining is my fun time
That’s called the Odysee
Anyone got tips on how to mine in a roc?

Go to daymar for hadanite
Is that the best ore?
You need a transport ship
No, Aberdeen is best place
I can reply later, I’m on pos iPad, hard to type
There is a great little tip about the new ping that makes find gems pretty fast
What tip is that?
I’m not going to try to type that out on this device. Commuting at the moment
DM me and I’ll reply later
The ultimate refiner
No stopping him
and why are my refinery jobs not done yet?
What method did you choose?
Dynx ... But with workers this effective, it should be done in half the time 
Same. I only had 5 cups so far xD
Big League
😆 I'll end up with 2 liters on average
Found some Hadanite....
nice view you got there
Oh shoot!! That's correct! Dang, was really excited to get $60m 🤣🤣 late night maths not my specialty LOL
i heard you could make changes to scanner settings to make scouting easier
anybody has a link to a guide or something?
Here mate only works in Lyria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7Zh3lZyQ0
I found this while out in a mole with some friends, hope this helps ya o7
👍
could someone reccomend good cargo routes and what items to buy please?
they really need to come up with a better way of on/offloading items to/from ships
Anyone know good spots for hand mining this patch?
@sacred loom I have my guide coming out in the next few days too
it's way more simplified and it's shorter.
I'm going to make a seperate video that goes just over gadgets and solo prospector mining.
For those who do ROC Mining, the new ping system actually favors your search more than you realize. My experience has been this, At the time that the large deposits "vanish" from your ping as you approach them, the Gem deposits show up and stay on radar until you come up on them. No DeadZone on gem pings. This works about 98% of the time. Occasionally you'll have a large deposit stay on radar until you are on top of it, but if you get a new ping at about 2400 meters and it doesn't vanish, that is a Gem deposit.
@amber verge Here's the info that I was talking about. Hope it makes sense
I have no idea what's the fuss about scanning
Ran a full ROC run, never mistook a ping
that's because you are roc mining.
Just fly in a straight line, mash the tab, watch for new contacts and if it pops up at 2-3k, go there
PING for normal mining is a new monster
scanning has been completely messed with for quant mining
So large rocks don't pop under 2.4k at all?
not until you are on top of them at 800 meters with an icon
@tulip roost quant mining isn't like roc mining at all
we need pairs and clusters. we csnt tell how many rocks are in a box until on top of it
we used to be able to see 5km out
I need to do a keybind for quick zoom
I had some ghosting and artifacts on my HUD last night from ping/scanning. I think it messed up the results while it was on the display.
I wish they could've done the ROC mining improvements without trashing the regular ship mining game loop
Got 30k’d while on a mining run and with 200k of Laranite in the hold at a mining station. When I logged back in vehicle terminal told me my C2 is still at the mining station. I took my Arrow and flew back to the mining station but my C2 was gone… 😭
yeah and that's why you don't do trading
Where do I sell my refined ores to?
It's not giving me any options for selection/selling
Thats not a TDD is it?
Are they at admin offices or different places?
Im at Lorville
Then take the train to the business district
This is not true, I can tell how many rocks there are from around 10k using the scanner mechanics listed in the video just a page up.
I can even see from further than 10k now sometimes.
I think the only actual nerf is that the MOLE will have a harder time in the belt, but is fine on Lyria.
Anyone got a good guide on Trading?
People keep asking about trading but as far as I can tell nothing has changed for it since last patch.
Yeah.
It was one of the worst loops last patch, as far as I know it still is.
aaahahahahaah I had no idea de ROC could die/run outta power. RIP
The reason being is they are going to prob overhaul it next patch, so they put trading on ice.
You can take the gems out and go back to your ship
Doing it one at a time with no backpack. Paiiiiiin...
Just asking for any guide, I'm new to the game and someone who claimed he made 300-400k an hour, told me to look up a guide and the routes, but when i search up trading all I get is refueling selling guides.
*one
I mean you can fly your ship to the ROC, no?
ROC seems to take damage over time and needs to be repaired every few runs out.
I think I'ma switch to Bunker runs. Did hours yesterday with very little luck. :c
Mining has been a bit iffy but I am trying to different techniques out. I will say the new overcharge mechanic caught me off guard.
However, now that I have the new scanning down it is not much different than last patch, just a bit of a curve. I want to find a way to leverage these mining gadgets though.
I spent like one hour and half without finding a single Hedanite deposit Yesterday :c
What moon?
Deymar
Ah
People don't talk about how streaky mining can be, but ya sometimes it happens.
Definitely. Need better armor tho
That is the problem with a RNG based system, sometimes bad dice.
Also if you want to get a better mining vessel get a prospector and go to lyria
That place is stacked with quantainium
That's what I'm working towards right now. Only at 268k tho, lolol
Is true, but I want to bust those really big rocks solo on Lyria. Just because I think it is fun.
Yeah
Friend found a 8k mass 45% yesterday
Then he accidentally self destructed 
We never saw that rock again
Ya found one like that yesterday even brought a friend on to help but then we found out about the new overcharge stuff 😦
Wdym "new"
My mole can normally take a rock hit, but this one hit just right took out a cooler and did not quite make it to the pad, cost me 200k 😭
Its always been there
It is a bit different now
I guess
are you using gadgets
So before you could tap into the red a bit and any decent miner could bring it back down.
No not last time and we tested this with multiple people so was not just me. I did not belive it until I saw it myself btw.
They esentially cut the leeway we had with the red zone down. It goes critical almost twice as fast as before.
Try it out with no mods and you will see, it will cook into the red and almost instantly start a death charge now.
Jack Axton's video on trade refresher course. From a couple of builds back but still very relevant
So you can turn the laser off but it will go from almost no red all the way to critical very fast.
Now this is not too big of a deal because I almost never go red any more, but it was different.
Fair
Welcome to the verse, did you get some answers to your questions?
Spoiler: you wont
I have tried to recreate these routes and most of the time people are fudging time. I do not recommend trading for new players right now.
Laranite stock is simply way too low to get any considerable amounts
So.. if you destroy the ROC, it drops the cargo in a box. Easier to transfer to the ship. 🙂
There area number of guides on the CIG website and also a program to partner you with a more veteran player
The only way to make even bad money in trading right now is by using volume trades with a large ship like a C2, and I do it for fun but do not recommend it. If the game goes shit, and you loose a load that is aroudn one mil gone.
Yeah.
Trade is in a bad position at the moment, it will not improve until they get the cargo refactor in place
Pretty much every other loop is better right now, and more importantly with less risk.
Doesnt mean that will buff trading though 
The servers have been a little volitile lately so you have a ship with one mil of goods and the server crashes, it wont even bother 30king which means you get none of that back.
They have just released multiple trade ships including some small trade ships, I would not be too terribly confident in that position. But none of us really know
I mean next patch is the begining of a major cargo refactor, they will probably look at trading then, but it really is just on ice right now.
Except for game client crashes the system heartbeat does work pretty good for those running trade
That is the think it is a coin toss if the crash will actually go all the way to a 30k, that is too much risk.
I really do hope so
Really I'm just looking for a good way to make some good money to buy my first ship, a Cutlass.
Oof well you arent going to be making any trading an titan
Or aurora
Howdy. I've been around for alittle bit now but haven't tried mining outside of my stints in prison. I've got an argo mole and since reset only about 300k. Any advice on prioity upgrades to assist in my first forays into mining?
Get lancet mh2's on it
I kept trying bunkers, but when I was able to effectively make a working crate, the bunker missions didn't come up, or something went wrong, like the time my ship just decided to blow up.
There are many other choices that are well documented, new bunkers, satalight missions, roc mining, bounty hunting. I think the fotm is bunkers now though.
Considering you are in a mole and most likely running with a crew modules are optional imo
Also managed to bring a crate to an 890, but it didn't hold as much as I thought, so I bought all the weapons I found and some armor pieces, but just made a little over 17k.
@dapper solstice Your ship was most likely blown up by the turrets at the bunker shooting at you. The lights don't show but you can see damage to shields. Recommend Maxing shield and landing the ship with the bunker structure between you and the turret.
MOLE is kinda a hard core mining ship right now. I meanif your just starting why not a prospector?
It's more that I already have a mole vice looking to get a ship.
I use a MOLE, because I like to screw around with moduals gadgets and I want to try to solo crack the big ones because I am greedy ass dorf.
Is there only one turret?
But I lost 200k the last time things went bad 😅
On the bunkers, thats all i've seen.
I havent bought any new equipment since the reset. Do you lose non-stock hardpoints on ships following a claim?
1-3
You dont
Although you do lose modules
Can a Helix 1 fit in the cargo of a Pisces?
On the mole you loose all the moduals and every once in a great while heads too.
Heads rarely
Okay, so upgrades to laser and the like will last through my failures as a pilot. Good to know. The whole medical respawn and lost corpse threw me for a loop.
Is true, but I really rubs it in when they dont come back too 😢
What I would do until you are comfortable and if you already bought the mole in game and not cash is just set up the center turret like you would a prospector.
Once you get your feet under you with that, then go ahead and fit the rest. This is just limiting your potental loss until you get the feel of things.
Mole can get time consuming running around between the pilots seat and the laser
Just saying
It was cash. It's always cash.
I used one once, never again
Honestly unless you have friends going with you or something, id just change it into a prospector for now.
Takes too much effort solo imo
I do the mole thing because it is fun and I love the ship.
And I mine pretty much all the time so I like the versatility.
Prospector is pretty fun in atmo
Prospector is better than it ever has been.
Handles suprisingly well
But as I said if you really want to use the mole anyway (as I do), just fit it like a prospector in the beginning. Throw a lancent on it and a vaux with a focus and an active module to play with like a stampede or brandit
Just use the center head for now, then once you get it going you can use a standard mole build.
so what are some new lancet + module + mining gadget combos to consistently break 7-8k mass quant deposits?
So on a prospector?
I hate leaving quant behind, im using a mole now solo
Oh,
I had no problem busting those size rocks on PTU, but now I am not having luck so am actively trying different configs. I am trying for a non surge build.
apparently boremax + surge + stampede is worth a try
I am trying to find a way to do it reliably and safely with a helix.
ah good luck with that 🙂
The idea was to use the power of the helix and the stability from the gadget.
I did this on PTU multiple times, but for some reason cant seem to do it now.
Trying to solo mine a 8 ton Quantanium rock with mining gadgets.
While this ended badly, I think with some other module choices it would be doable.
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yeah wow, see that Helix there
So was doing some mining, seems like we overheated the coolers
we're at 9000/2000 heat...
Any way to speed up the venting?
what if you turn off everything else but the coolers? wouldn't that generate less heat thus reducing the workload on coolers?
Turned entire ship off, screens in cockpit not turning on anymore
is there a lfg channel here
Haha ya is why I don't put those two gadgets together. Look at the penalties 😆
if you turned off the whole ship, then coolers are off as well no?
#looking-for-session i guess?
Thats in general for everything
yeah i figured that
Fair point
Problem is I can't access screens to turn on and off :/
Hold R
If it is staying off that means something is damaged.
L Shift as well if you are having trouble seeing the UI in mining mode
It zooms in so that is a workaround for the terrible UI
The MOLE tends to take more damage to the coolers than anything else.
still better than it was in 3.16. The HUD was it's own survival mini-game when mining
@north oyster are you here sir?
Give him a minute or 2
no worries
greetings
evening
Could you take a few seconds and look at this post in Help and tell me if you know what the symbol at the lower part of the hud means?
#helpdesk message
I'm on a slow connection, give me a moment
no hurry
better server stability and framerates improved mining immensly
No joke, I'll take this patch for all it's meh content for stability and performance alone over any other recent patch
that's interesting, I can't say that I've seen it before. I can probably ask on one of the forums I have access to that most others don't. I'm curious, if it might be a programming shard that wasn't cleaned out
sort of like the "change me" balls
thanks for taking the time, I've never seen this before so was curious.
it means you have a gadget on the rock and it's active
I'll see what I can find out, maybe one of the CIG guys will chime in when I do ask
thanks
FTW
I used optimax for the 1st time yesterday and honestly don't remember if there was any kind of icon present on the hud
was focused too much on the optimal window 🙂
funny is that I carried one around for a month on my back but never made into the Halo to test, the game always crashed on me
hm
mine finally glitched out on lyria yesterday, when it seemingly attached to a Q rock but was in fact floating several meters away in air.
the first couple of patches it was very dangeroud to try to use them
I've read that yes
the patch notes offer some interesting insight
I have a Hercules as my only spacecraft, I think. I've got 20K cash. I've tried doing some cargo hauls but I end up paying more in fuel than I make. What is the right progression here to make enough capital for Cargo hauling to be worth it? Any advice?
Cargo is not in a good place but having a C2 as your daily is too expensive. You can use her for bounty hunting. Once you get about 90K, run scrap from Area18 to ARC-L1. that'll give you about 25k per run. Do that a number of times then look at Gold and Titanium
I would suggest getting an Pieces or Aurora for a daily
Okay, thank you for the advice.
Jack Axton has a great refresher course on trade on YT. It's a few months old but still valid.
He covers doing basic runs that you can afford then working your way up
Looking for mining crew. Immediate payout. Scouts needed. DM for inv
Anyone close to lyria who wants to mine a 43,5% 7300 quant rock?
Please don't do trade other than for fun this patch. It is not worth it with a full c2 is too much risk to loose your load to jenky server stuff.
what a beautiful rock i missed lol
Yeah man, maybe next time hahah!
I just upgraded to a Nomad and want to start grinding for a ROC. what would be the best contracts to do before then?
also is there a recommended place to set as your home base for mining? I'm currently set to new babbage
Lorville id say
i got the roc with a cutty
nice! I eventually want a cutty. I just upgraded from mustang alpha to nomad so I'm looking forward to playing finally
Lost 200k worth of cargo earlier today to a 30k server crash 😭
welp, first prospector run near arc l1, netted $199 848. took me bout 18 minutes from start of first rock breaking to landing at refinery. 5000 mass with 28% quant. this is a fantastic way to make cash. have a mole but the greater holding capacity doesnt work to well with the 15 minute timer
The timer does not really matter for the mole. It only takes a few min to get to arc1 from lyria.
I am not recommending a MOLE, I think it is fine for experianced miners who like to mix things up.
if the rox are clustered it should be ok, but if spread out ima have to hurry
Pull the mole back and above the cluser out to 100m or so, the extraction range is like 300m on a mole with a helix on it.
So do the breaks on your breaking head, then pull back and extract with the extractoin head (with the filters on it).
yep, using helix. i use to only mine on planets but just started to mine astroid belts. daymar was my usual spot
It even works fine with a lancet, is still close to 300m
I been messing around with all this today, trying to bust big rocks for fun.
have lancet on prospector. this was very quick compared to my old mining route
I am thinking the new meta for the MOLE is going to be a helix as a breaking head coupled with a combo of mods and gadgets. (Working on the best combo), a detail head to break the small chunks quick and safe, and then a full extraction filter head.
So is only a bit different, instead of two lancets and a helix, will be two helix and one lancet.
when did they add filtering?
think you can fit a light ground vehicle in the bay of a Nomad?
Roc fits well
how do i turn on the front turret on the mole
How much can the C2 make on a run? And is it worth getting as a primary money making source?
Hope jumptown comes with free fly, I need a reason to login
so, what bases like jumptown actually work? I'm at the Orphanage on Lyria, and my ship doesn't even show up in the console
@devout comet I have a guide with loadouts pinned in this channel
I just bought it and if you wanna do trade you need at least a decent investment to be efficient.
Ah alright! Please let me know how you like it so I can choose whether or not to buy it :))
I love it tbh. It will be my main cargo ship for mining (selling refined stuff) and for trading when I want a break from mining
it looks so nice too.. I don't regret it tbh
its a big boy so gotta be careful doing your landings lol
Do you have any thoughts on the Starfarer Gemini?
Are is refuelling profitable yet? Or non-existent? LOL
So bad
I assumed since you told me you had a guide my thing was bad
haha nah man I'm on my phone it wouldn't load
but some stuff you don't need to upgrade
Like what?
@thin escarp should I get shields for it?
I only do laser, modules, and qt
i doubt you would get any customers in this update
I wish it was better because the Starfarer is awesome lol
Anyone elses mole front turret just not working aka won't boot up?
Hi, newbie here, approx how much profit per hour is hadanite ROC mining compared to quant Prospector mining?
roc mining can net 200k if ya know what your doing
if you have a kitted prospector you can make 250-275k an hour
oh so its not thaaaat much more
a dude said he mined half a day and got like 4-5mil worth of quant
oh he specifically mentioned using a prospector :p
It depends purely on luck
Yep, its down to luck how fast you can find good rocks
Mining is much harder to calculate hourly income because we would need much larger datasets than a day of mining
how much is cutlass black ingame
1385300
how much is that sorry?
Bet thanks
im just renting the cutlass black as its more efficent for me
will be saving for prospect
Prospector is 2.1mil
thanks
im gonna save for that w my rented roc and cutlass
Good plan
any tips on how to maximise aphorite or those jems where best to find them
Oof
Dont mine apho
Buy a pembroke suit and go to aberdeen
Try finding hadanite
Thats the most valuable one
okay ty
If anyone is quant mining at Lyria, have a 37%/7900m rock that needs breaking. Will be available for a while more
Bruh been trying to mine Hadanite for hours. If its not a server crash, the roc bugs out.
The suffering continues
Do you switch engines off Cassus
On the cutlass, yeah
Once I put it back in the ship, yeah.
ah okay does it bug when flying
No.
It bugs out by mining laser not working, mining and extraction gets inverted, wheels wont turn with A or D and have to switch to the stick on Hotas to maneuver, etc.
ah shit sorry dont know how to help there mate
It's fine. Have had to relog several times and wasted a lot of time going back and forth picking up the ROC and Aberdeen with no profit due to the relogs, lmao
bro star citizen got me walking round for hours ive wasted a lot of time ur not alone
hope u sort it out
where r u mining? or trying to
Aberdeen
same is it okay now?
Seems to be working for now
do u own or rent cutlass
Renting
cool same man have u done a run yet
my first run cut short as i slammed into the ground lost all 4 thrusters believe it or not and somehow slumped my way back to rhe space station to repair
Havent been able to do one completely how I wanted. Usually a bug happens or I have to cut the trip short.
okay well good luck mate hope it turns out good
Thanks, you too mate.
if u do pls let me know how much u make from ur run
A ROC full of Hadanite should net you around 220k I believe
is the aaron halo still a solid spot for quant in a prospector? or should i head out to lyria?
i really wanna do some trading right now but i'm too scared i might crash and lose it all
thanks
is there a way to fix the roc bug
Just don't haul so many goods that a crash would leave you broke xD
so you want me to haul for 5k profit ? xD
hey is it wise to rent a prospector and just mine?
i have like 600k left but im getting tired and sick of t90 jump missions
is the prospector worth it for money making? I have about 1.1MM credits and I'm thinking of buying a prospector to work with my buddy's freelancer and mine for money to buy a Connie
it's not worth renting, but it's worth buying, since you'll be able to change the modules to mines better
rented prospector cant mine Quantum. It's better to buy one and outfit it properly. Otherwise I'd argue roc mining is better then the rented Prospector
yea I was going to buy one
save up the next 1MM and then buy the prospector and gear for it
Whats the best station for quantanium refining? I've been using MIC-L1 since the beginning, but also hear people say CRU-L1 is the place to go
some refineries have better yeld. But personally I will go to wherever is nearest the difference, for me, in neglectable for the extra time it takes to QT
Rented roc better than rented prospector, period
Only 5K? That's not worth starting the engines for xD
CRU-L1 for it's Yield-Bonus and ARC-L1 for its close proximity to Lyria and some nice spots in the Halo.
But keep in mind, that those are also the Refineries that get visits from pirates more frequently.
what is the best way to earn money so i can buy a prospector?
okay, qeustion about illegal surveilance i heard that they buffed the ai? and there somewhat more deadly now? is this true
just bought freelancer max (for the high cargo capacity) but it says min 2 crew. i can fly solo still i hope
Meh
Just ignore them
Even if you ignore them, they’ll shoot at you, but you can dodge their fire fairly easily if you’re in something agile like an Aurora or Mustang.
You can fly all ships solo so far. You just miss utility like the Turret in case of the Freelancer.
@dense surge don't rent keep saving
@arctic haven yes prospector still viable
def can show ppl the ropes mining
will the hull e be able to land on planets or will that be a space based freighter?? thoughts
Personally I hope it's space-bound so that things like the Argo Cargo have a role
Given the way its cargo is laid out it's hard to imagine how that thing would land when under full load
Nothing past the Hull B can land while loaded IIRC
are there currently good cargo routes ?
Yeah, Hull B is apparently getting a landing gear rework so it'll be able to land on planets
Hull C and above can't
aww
si if i get the hull e how would i sell my metal matierals
or refiend matierals
Do you keep ships after wipes?
If you wipe hard enough....
In most cases its a full wipe tho
Any good trading sides ? Like websites ?
where is the best place to mine with a rented prospector?
Together with a friend with a owned prospector to crack rocks. So u only have to pick up the materials.
rental prospector is absolute trash but its okay if you get it to learn the basics i guess.
Renting a Prospector is a good way to find out if you really want to buy one
Thinking of mining and mining are two different things
I have an argo mole and find landing in big areas like area 18 or new babbage a little dodgy sometimes. Harder to control ship. Do you other mole owners experience this or do you just fly them to space stations outside those areas?
just don't go into cities with the mole. once you've bought the upgrades you want for it, there is really no reason to go anywhere but mining and refinery stations
You still can't transfer ship modules to ship cargo, right?
You shouldn't fly the mole to cities its too risky.
Pad rammers like to ram mining ships
@high wren yeah I don't fly my mole to big cities unless I'm leaving a18 at the time of a patch
k, i have to do the same, very clunky in that atmosphere or something
Where are all the pad rammers I've been hearing about? I've yet to see one and I pledged in 2014
u haven't ran into Sfer and his griefing org
Is it really a US/EU dychotomy?
Barely see any PVP or griefing for that matter on EU
There's like one red ship politely duelling at PO every half a year or so
Hell, last time I was domed by a player, you could buy Widow at Jumptown
And the guy apologized because he was covering a friend and got twitchy
EU players are really polite from what i've experience
Everyone simply wants to do their own thing
It's a mutual respect of enjoying the serenity of sphess
Yep
any group rn going mining or trading that needs a refueler for non stop transport?
is it a common bug that my yield disappears? like i have 3-4 process refine and I have 3 works done for example I take out and sell 2 but the 3rd one disappears as well as some work in process yields at the refining station
Any work arounds for the vanishing Roc/ship? I lost 70 cSCU of Hadanite last night. Devastated.
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Rock store?
We find and sell Quant rock for willing buyers.
We hadn't for a while due to updates but we are trying to start back
Hello, one question can oyu mine more rocks at once in MOLE??
you can if you have at least 2 laser operators
rly? coss we tried now and when one miner was mining other one saw progress on that one miner insted have his own progress bar
could be desync or some other weird temporary bug. i tried it in the halo after 3.17 came out and it worked as before
ok thx
yeah. Best to have 2 others in there with you due to de-sync but as long as you can get 2 lasers going... makes it a lot better.
8341 mass/47.5% quant, who wants it?
You got a prosp too?
in it right now at the rock
anyone ever been ROC mining and the rocks suddenly stop taking energy? laser is on it at 100% for minutes and charge bar doesn't start moving at all
There was someone earlier with the same issue
Try simply relogging
will i be here in the same place again?
Where can u spawn a roc on Aberdeen?
Any mining outpost
Alr
Hmm, checked the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7Zh3lZyQ0 about how to scan properly in 3.17
I found this while out in a mole with some friends, hope this helps ya o7
But i have a problem, how do you change the angle of scanning, no matter what i do it stays at 360 degrees, it just adjust the ring size
keybinds, flight - radar: ping angle
Is there even one one Aberdeen ?
Not sure tbf lol
Oooh, im at the wrong one then
Hmm, got the angle to work, but still doesnt show the rocks from a distance
it barely works in space, best to use it on moons
make sure you aim right at the box, at a distance lower than 12.5
Yeah, they are at 2-4 km, so no issues there
Should i aim with the crosshair, or the drunk ring/square scanner marker tho?
(it wobbles back and forth)
forget the scanner. get your mining laser out, and aim with crosshair
Ah, testing
Hmm, the box icon just repops when scanning, until i have narrowed the scan to much and it disappears
try different distances, like above 5k
Tried another location, seems to have helped
the asteroid belt isnt showing on my mobi glass anymore
anyone can give me tips on getting into the aaron halo from crusader ?
thank you very much
Found my first cluster with the scanning method
Seems i need greater height, or it was just that the scanning has issues with the much smaller gemrocks
yea i don't think it works the same with gems, those show up at a much closer range than rocks
Bad cluster, but proves the method works
this map is amazing thanks so much buflak
This turning into a rock trading channel? Lol
rock market xd




