industrial-professions

[toxic citrus]

I was discussing the routes with muxi a bit ago

Ah, i see

How much aUEC do you have rn?

[keen stream]

Like 300k

[toxic citrus]

Ok. So you wanna head to hurston first

Or arccorp

Either works

[keen stream]

ok

thank you

So is Taurus a good buy?

[toxic citrus]

I recommend buying titanium at first

[toxic citrus]

Yeah, its nice

[keen stream]

How much money would I make with a capital of 300k? I just wanna know, because for me bounty hunting is so hard now since the NPCS are so on crack :/

[toxic citrus]

If we are talking laranite id say like 40-50k profit for a full load, however laranite is usually pretty low stock

But that would cost your whole balance

So pick titanium for now

[keen stream]

How long does that take?

like 20-30k in an hour?

[toxic citrus]

Not even an hour

Depends on your speed too

Id say 30k in 20 ish mins, maybe?

[keen stream]

ok thx

So when I get there I have to store ship right?

[strong glade]

i mined with a mining car but how do i sell the loot that is inside it to admin?

[serene quest]

what does the "switch mining laser" do in the keybinds? Is that to swap to extraction mode?

[cerulean lichen]

For the roc it needs to be parked near the selling point but outside of the ship that carried it. So when at a mining outpost, you drive the roc out of your ship and park it before walking into the outpost to the trade terminal.

A roc inside a vehicle won’t appear as it’s own vehicle.

[strong glade]

thx

[dusky dune]

Okay ROC mining is butt with the ping changes lol

[toxic citrus]

To where?

You want to go to a mining facility to pick up cargo and go sell it at a TDD

[dark tendon]

Hi, is ROC mining still busted?

[manic estuary]

I can confirm that clusters or packs of 2 asteroids and rocks are no longer guaranteed to be quant.. in fact, chances are it wont be

[toxic citrus]

Interesting

[crisp canopy]

best mining gadget?

also is lyria still good for mining?

[frigid harness]

whats someones trade route that they use

[frigid harness]

you can also go to a space station and go to admin with the roc in the ship

[undone scaffold]

Not with the scanning changes

[runic yew]

actually I had a route from Hurston to ArcCorp last patch, but I need to do some scouting to determine if it is still economically viable. Did you want to split our efforts and trade data to speed things up?

[runic yew]

The Quantanium on Lyria is still there but not as rich as it used to be

We have been discussing potentially scouting out the belt more to see if the belt is still rich for 3.17

[crisp canopy]

hmm

[runic yew]

And the scanning changes as @undone scaffold has mentioned do also add the insult to injury

[crisp canopy]

also whats with the scanning? i cant even scan normal astroids in the halo now either

[runic yew]

I have not attempted to scan asteroids yet, so I don't know what that is like for 3.17 yet

I heard some scouts mention that there were a lot of "phantom rocks" out there though

[toxic citrus]

The range has been reduced to 1km

Although rocks are now more consistently scannable

[runic yew]

addendum: early PTU reports, so that could have easily been fixed since

[earnest lion]

My friend and I just arrived back in our own ships with quantanium to a refinery station, we were well ahead of schedule but the second we left our respective seats the alarm started blaring showing that it was about to blow up before then blowing up.

Seems like a new bug, never happened before.

[manic estuary]

depends on the server, ran into one today that rocks were barely scannable.. lots of rotating around the rocks and pinging to get it to trigger, or not scannable at all

halo at least

[leaden quarry]

How good can mining with a prospector be?

[manic estuary]

ping results also disappear when you get within 5km range, turns into visual only until very close..

[manic estuary]

within 5 mins today of hitting the belt, i found a nice 38% 5k mass quant rock, filled my prospector which was worth 250k.. then over an hour to not find another one.. so it all depends

but i would say it's still your best bet for profits

[leaden quarry]

Yeah I got to rent a prospector when I have time and do it. Any idea on where the best spots to mine are

[earnest lion]

Has anyone else witnessed or had this happen to them?

[frigid harness]

but dont lorville and new babbage have the same prices? is it good for me to buy from arial then sell at lorville?

[strong beacon]

guys

any ideas why charge level isnt going up when mining ?

[reef smelt]

Where do you all dismantle your quantanium?, Do you have some nice places?

[woeful moss]

Laser to weak, aiming at wrong spot, bug could be either of them

[crisp canopy]

where abouts in the halo?

[potent monolith]

what are some good trade routes now in 3.17?

i tried smuggling but i couldnt buy anything from private property

[round current]

no one really knows the trade routes of 3.17 yet

[potent monolith]

ah damn

[twilit wren]

Mining is much hard now than in 3.16

harder

[earnest lion]

Which mining gadget will I need to mine an 8K mass rock with a Prospector?

[cerulean lichen]

For the prospector, I know it costs like 2.1 million, but I also know I need specific attachment. So should I be aiming for 2.3million before I buy it? Don’t know what attachments I’ll need or how much

[toxic citrus]

Do you have a cargo ship

[cerulean lichen]

Yes a cutlass black

[toxic citrus]

At least cutty black

Ok good

Yeah the lancet mh1 is fairly cheap

Youll do fine with 2.2mil

[cerulean lichen]

Don’t think I’ll jump right in to quant mining, may do some of the less exploding mining just to get used to the loop.

Hoping to be in a prospector in 1 week from now.

[tame bloom]

Does anyone know where I can buy the mpuv-cargo?

[toxic citrus]

Sec

[toxic citrus]

New Deal, Lorville

[tame bloom]

Thank you

[minor moon]

Has scrap selling been disabled again?

[runic yew]

It depends on the exact commodity we're talking about

I avoided Microtech as much as I could

[minor moon]

Nope, but PO no longer buys

[fiery river]

for cargo containers that you can buy at stations, how do you go about bringing that container out of ship/station inventory into a physical form? I've purchased 3 of them and attempted to bring on out of my ships inventory by grabbing it and it just disappeared all together.

[neat talon]

what are good accesories to buy for the mole

[desert fossil]

whats a good starting ship for cargo runs

[serene quest]

Been trying ot figure out how to sell the items i've been looting. Clothes and Harvestables mostly. Do I have to move them to Local before selling them?

[desert fossil]

yes

[serene quest]

-_-

how... convenient

[lime musk]

is quantanium always sold at 88aUEC per unit?

[desert fossil]

cannot sell them from ship inventory and you can only sell items to vendors that sell that category

[hallow shore]

starting as in pledge or starting as in entry level past an actual starter

[serene quest]

as far as I know, refined quant is always that price

[lime musk]

Okay thanks

[desert fossil]

past actaul starter...saving up for a ship rn and was looking at the caterpillar

[hallow shore]

I'm a fellow newbie so take my word with a grain of salt

but from my research and advice taken

the Cutlass Black is the savviest step to take

Caterpillar is 5mil so

kinda expensive if you're going straight for it

[desert fossil]

i thought i saw it for a lot cheaper :/

must have been a glitch

[hallow shore]

maybe you saw the renting price

[desert fossil]

maybe bc i couldve sworn it was less than a mill

[hallow shore]

yeah nah

[desert fossil]

seemed weird that it was that cheap

[hallow shore]

unfortunately the cheapest worthwhile step up is the Cutty B at 1.3mil

it's not a dedicated freighter, but it has plenty of cargo for profitable trading

and room for deliveries and even mining

[desert fossil]

well thankfully im not far off from that

[hallow shore]

it's a great generalist ship

the cheapest dedicated hauler is the RAFT at 1.8mil. about twice as much cargo as the Cutty

but it's non-trivially slower

and this early on it's also important to factor that more cargo is meaningless if you don't have the investment funds to fill it

but once again, take my word with a grain of salt

I'm more of an ideas hauler ;-;

currently floundering at 70k trying every which way to earn some funds and finding all kinds of new and interesting ways to fail

[desert fossil]

illegal monitors my man

[hallow shore]

I cannot dogfight to save my life

nor do I enjoy it

[desert fossil]

ahh

its def harder with the new patch

[hallow shore]

been trying bunkers but so far they've resulted in a net loss. and jail time

[desert fossil]

but its easy money once you figure it out

yeah i dont mess with those after i got 8hrs for shooting friendlies :/

at least i learned how to mine

[hallow shore]

both mining and hauling have no straightforward entry point

you kinda need a good bit of entry money to start doing them

much to my dismay

and it's extremely hard to get said entry money without dogfighting

I am seething and malding and coping etc

[desert fossil]

honestly you might just have to bite your tongue and do it until youre established

[hallow shore]

I got the Aurora tho, and no clue how I'd even make it reasonably combat-capable

[undone scaffold]

You can always ask other people if they need help mining whether that be running a laser on a mole or scouting for decent ore.

[desert fossil]

put 4 repeaters on it it made it a lot better

[hallow shore]

I'd be fine with that, but I'm generally clueless on how mining actually works and I'd rather not impose on them to teach me

[undone scaffold]

I’ve seen people destroy with ballistic repeaters

[hallow shore]

furthermore I'd probably need a dedicated scout ship wouldn't I?

[undone scaffold]

If you know how to mine with a mining multi tool you can basically mine with anything

And you don’t need a dedicated ship for scouting

[hallow shore]

I don't know how to mine with a mining multi tool

[torpid mesa]

You can scout for me anytime I supply the Scout ship and fuel and pay a 20 % finders fee

[undone scaffold]

Aslong as you know what to look for then you can be a good scout

[undone scaffold]

Have you been to prison?

[hallow shore]

yes

[torpid mesa]

My last haul was 250k

[hallow shore]

and how would scouting work exactly

[torpid mesa]

You locate rocks scan them down and mark them with yourself until I get there when you find something worth harvesting

[undone scaffold]

Just scan using tab and look for rocks that have a good mass and high amount of the ore the miner wants

[torpid mesa]

I quant mine so there is perimeters that we aim for because I have a time line once I harvest it.

But I would walk you through the process through VC in the moment

[undone scaffold]

Usually 5600 mass with 39% is honestly the perfect rock

It’s enough to fully load a prospector

[torpid mesa]

Yes

[undone scaffold]

But anything over 25% with 4000+ mass is minimum

For me atleast

[torpid mesa]

I will take anything over 3500 and over 28 % though if I have the ability to leave a scouter behind while I off load

[hallow shore]

noted

so the regular scan ping gives info on rocks?

[torpid mesa]

I also provide my scouter with a boremax just in case they find something worth that effort

[shy crane]

coming back to Arc L1 with 25 scu of quantaneum.....got pull out of QT by someone....didn't immediately see anyone so I mashed the throttle and hit the afterburners until the QT finally went blue again....that could have been messy.....lol

[hollow sedge]

anyone know good spots to buy cargo at hurston?

[minor minnow]

i had a player pull me out befor when i was in my carrack with 4 others and the player tried to run from us after. lol Lets just say he died very fast

[shy crane]

awesome....lol

[minor minnow]

He saw 4 turrets start firing at him and boom he blew up LMAO

[shy crane]

how do you even do that? How do you interdict someone in quantum travel.......asking for a friend. 😉

[sacred loom]

How are you guys finding Halo mining?, I found it alot harder than 3.16

[hardy mesa]

Only specific ships can I think it's the mantis

[shy crane]

ahhh...ok

[fossil scaffold]

Anyone got some cargo advice? I need to make 1mil ASAP, preferably today lol

Willing to rent a ship if I gotta

[sacred loom]

You need a massive hauler to make decent money.

[fossil scaffold]

Is renting possible?

[sacred loom]

You could rent a connie, I think thats the most SCU size u can rent

but your return will not be huge cos u cant carry enough to make massive cash

https://www.gallog.co/commodities

use this site mate, u can work it all out here

[fossil scaffold]

Connie = Constellation?
And there’s no bigger rentable haulers?

Ah thanks

[sacred loom]

I dont think so, could be wrong

[sacred loom]

Have u used Erkul?, thats a website tells you alot of information about ships. if you havent used it before could be handy

[fossil scaffold]

Haven’t but I’ll check it out! Thanks

[sacred loom]

best of luck

[inland walrus]

any1 willing to take me mining/ cargo hauling and teach me how they work?

[fossil scaffold]

Suggestions on renting a constellation and doing cargo runs for 200k an hour? Or renting 3 prospectors? Which would make more per hour?

[sacred loom]

rental prospector is not great. the mining head is trash

[fossil scaffold]

To the point where it’s not worth using..? Or could it potentially make more since there’d be 3-4 people with them

[sacred loom]

I dot think u can get Quantanium on the standard head

[fossil scaffold]

Ah damn. Okau

Okay*

[sacred loom]

You could try renting a ROC

[inland walrus]

can you rent a c2?

[fossil scaffold]

ROC?

Disregard. Google helped me

[sacred loom]

Its a vehicle for mining gems on the planet

u can hire for 5k a day

[austere void]

Go do the illegal monitoring contracts. 20k a mission

[empty kite]

They have royally messed up mining. I just used a tank and a half of hydrogen fuel in a mole couldn’t find a single quant rock over 5% I’m genuinely gutted. Scanning is now ruined, cant detect the item untill around 1.2km away. Got yo fly over every single box to find out what it is. No clusters are spawning, nothing is decent enough to mine when you find a rock. Dead game loop.

[minor minnow]

im willing to do cargo runs for anyone. I have a very large cargo. We can talk about my cost later if your interested

[ornate locust]

really sucks to hear this

[empty kite]

the white indicators no longer flash in at 5k, but at 1k, so you have to ping, fly towards the box icon, if it changes to the rock icon at 1k, you can scan it in mining mode at 900m to see what kind of deposit its and its size, if it says a box under 1k, its gem deposit, you will get the gem icon at 500m. You won't get a composition scan within 250m.

[empty kite]

It fking sucks bro

Lyria has pretty much next to no clusters now also

[silk perch]

What about the asteroid belt?

[empty kite]

I havent tested yet, but same issue is apparent, you need to get within 1km to detect rock.

[silk perch]

ah gotcha

[weak hound]

What's the best way to make a lot of money pretty quick? Trying to get a Prospector or Mole ASAP. Have a Connie

And an Aurora

[empty kite]

ha GL making lots of money in 3.17. Everythings pretty much dead

[weak hound]

... gee, thanks so much for the help!

[empty kite]

My suggestion? Complain. Enough people complain the better

[hallow shore]

yeah I'm just

starting to get REALLY tired of this game pranking me

keep losing money and time to either bugs or enemies one-shotting me on detection

things I'm only having to deal with because there's no feasible non-insanely grindy way to even START doing anything industrious

without having to deal with some variety of combat

combat which they just made a lot harder

guess I just had extremely unlucky timing

[thin escarp]

@empty kite I feel ya but mole mining was never intended to be solo

[austere void]

Do illegal monitoring missions. They're 20k a piece and can do pretty quick

[thin escarp]

I'll be putting out a new scouting and mining guide soon

also cargo mining hasn't been good since 3.11?

[weak hound]

I only own an Aurora

[hollow sedge]

If I call a ship for a party member..can they use it to sell cargo?

[sharp dagger]

Is anyone dealing with a bug when hand mining that wont allow you to pick up and ore after your first rock?

[hollow sedge]

Have you tried inspect..that can sometimes pick up the trick to then store

Rock not trick

[sharp dagger]

no luck

[soft meadow]

No, you can only sell from ships youve rented/own

[minor minnow]

the owner of the ship must sell as others cant see it. i like it that way. it allows players to rent out there ship and help new players make money.

i have 2 moles and 2 prospectors so if we all go out then i can refine all the ore at once and i just keep a small % of the profit.

i also have a big enough ship t sell it all at once

[velvet grail]

Whats up with mining I think the refresh rates are not as good.. No Quantanium..

[shy crane]

I just found a rich cluster in the belt....but Lyria was tough....

btw...did Arc L1 lose it's quant bonus? not seeing the same refining bonuses any more

[ocean bluff]

I have a roc but no transport would somone be willing to od some transport in exchange for some of the profit?

[austere void]

What's a good starter transporter ship?

[ocean bluff]

idk

[austere void]

I'd use my titan but I don't think it's big enough. 😂

[ocean bluff]

i have a titan to but im not sure

[leaden quarry]

After I refined my minerals, put them in my ship and ready to sell where do I actually go to sell?

Like what is the best place to do so

[toxic citrus]

What refinery are you on

[leaden quarry]

I was at ARC L1

[toxic citrus]

Then head to area 18 TDD

[leaden quarry]

Okay, thank you

[robust widget]

i just slammed into lyra like a noob

[toxic citrus]

Then dont slam again

[shy crane]

that's ok...I just augured into a mining facility at about 700

bright side....I'm at the spanking new hospital in Loreville

[austere void]

Good money in drug running?

[lyric pasture]

Ive had a similar experience. I didn't mine much before 3.17 so I'm not sure how easy it was before but I'm spending 1-2 hours sometimes looking for a single 30%+ quant rock. If this was a stealth change like we are all suspecting, it was a horrible change. It is pushing mining in the wrong direction. Mining should be focused on the extraction primarily, and the scanning secondly. Looking for rocks for 10-15 minutes is wayyyy less enjoyable then settling down to mine a good one for 10-15 minutes. Also making the search the difficult part nerfs multi crew mining even MORE. Why would I subject my 3 lazer operators to 2 hours of absolute nothingness when they could just hop in their own prospectors and cover 4x the ground? Dunno what CIG was thinking on this one.

[fossil scaffold]

Most profitable cargo hauling route/cargo material?

[toxic citrus]

Laranite most likely

[swift flint]

it's funny how absolutely every rocks that looks like it has quant in it is unscannable

[toxic citrus]

[swift flint]

soon every game loop will be absolutely fucked and there won't be anything to do lol

[toxic citrus]

Yeah

[deep vector]

You’re not in a scanning mode)

But had same in 3.16 a lot

Everything that’s unscannable - 100% contains quant

[swift flint]

don't worry, I turned it off for the ss

it's just so demotivating

I found a few more rocks like this without this cluster

and all of them were unscannable

[deep vector]

In 3.16 I was treating those easy: nothing decent/unscannables for 20mins is server hop

Usually got decent results on 1st-2nd hop

[rose root]

they "Fixed" this 2 patches ago lmao

[tender quiver]

Where should I mine for quantum with prospector

[deep vector]

Halo

[velvet grail]

Yes just have to know where to go

[teal wing]

I sold a full load of hadanite yesterday and when I logged in for the second time in the afternoon, the credits from that sale had disappeared. Has that happened to anyone else?

Before I sink another hour into ROC mining

[empty kite]

Eh, it’s a 1-3 mining ship, besides this change is irrespective of the mole. I have a fundamental issue with the scanning/passive detection of rocks. Solo or multi crew, having to practically fly to every single pop up box for it to turn into a scalable rock/cluster is such a time waster. Taking 10x the time to find comparable rocks/clusters. Not to mention the reduction in cluster spawns, cost of fuel sky rocketed. Flying a mole is now fking worthless.

[grizzled dome]

Yeah that happened to me while trading, I lost 400k because I logged right after a sale

[steep vault]

Is cargo broken 3.17?

[toxic citrus]

No?

[steep vault]

awesome

Is anyone paying for miners?

[viscid pivot]

if I want to do cargo runs with a freelancer, what commodity should I go for?

[toxic citrus]

Laranite or medical supplies

Titanium is valid too, but not as

[viscid pivot]

are there any routes I should consider taking

I used to go from Arial to Hurston all the time

SC trade tools keeps telling me I need to buy and sell Altruciatoxin xD

[tender quiver]

Aaron halo ?

And this is where asteroids sprawns?

[swift flint]

ok, I'm stealing this

oh this is cornerstone

so I can look at other locations as well

[tender quiver]

I used it but never found quant with it

[toxic citrus]

You wanna go to band 5 for best rocks

[tender quiver]

What place is named "band"

[tender quiver]

Ah ty

[sacred loom]

U can find good rocks anywhere, i dont use any of that and Ive made plenty

Just gotta start in the band and make small jumps around it

[high wren]

have a prospector and mole. just started to mine quantainium. the mole holds plenty but the timer makes things difficult. do you other miners just use prospectors? and what transport ship would you recommend to get the refined ores to the market? been away for bout a year and a half from game

[north oyster]

I mine in the Prospector exclusively, too much work to solo in a Mole. I use the MAX or Taurus for cargo

[high wren]

thx. looking into that new ship but its not playable yet. the misc one. will check max and taurus

[sacred loom]

Taurus is also viable for combat. Good ship

[toxic citrus]

Hull A yeah?

Not worth the 90$

Youd be better off getting pretty much anything else

[sacred loom]

Don’t need to spend money this game. Just grind AUEC

[north oyster]

For now, but mechanics will change

[toxic citrus]

They will a lot

Cargo refactor

[sacred loom]

In a decade lol

[high wren]

we have a 5 man crew for mole but the timer on the quant makes things tricky

[toxic citrus]

Take a scout with ya

[north oyster]

MAX is cheapest cost per aUEC for transport

[sacred loom]

Mine on Lyria deliver to ARC L1

Pretty fast.

[high wren]

we found a good spot near arc l1 for quant to

[sacred loom]

Set your jump point before extracting etc.

[north oyster]

Nothing fast in 3.17 atm, except crashes

[sacred loom]

Get a quick QT drive if your doing small trips, makes a difference

[high wren]

when i walked out of my hab through the wall of my skyscraper , i got to main level pretty fast lol

[minor moon]

I have a C2. What is the most profitable trade route/cargo I can use? I have looked at the online tools, most of what they say are the most profitable are low capacity items, that you have to stand around and sell in small bits instead of all at once

[north oyster]

Titanium and Agricium

Gold also decent

[minor moon]

Cheers

[north oyster]

Scrap is a good quick grab, about 30k aUEC run. Agricium is about 100k profit iirc

[high wren]

upgraded my arrow to a max, $75 dollar difference, not bad. already have an aegis gladius for light fighter. now just to do something with mole

now have the transport i was lacking

[gentle spade]

Is scanning in the prospector broken? Seems like I can't scan signatures after a ping?

[lilac patio]

Scanning is all sorts of fucked

[fleet dove]

💀

[sacred loom]

u can only scan the rock at 800m

Thats if it works

[brazen thistle]

if you take more ROCs to regular prospector minable rock. i suppose you will be able to break it eventually... but will you be also able to scoop it ?

[ornate locust]

did they change quanta spawns

heard another guy saying there are alot less

[burnt tundra]

I’m thinking of buying the Hull A due to its fair price point. Do you think it’s a good buy for cargo? And what would be the most profitable cargo?

[minor minnow]

I found a rock that was 8500 mass 34% quantanium and 9% inerts. Cluster was 25000 so you just need to look for em

[minor minnow]

Not worth the price in my eyes

[burnt tundra]

Oh okay, what would you say is a cargo for similar price that you would recommend?

[toxic oyster]

out of curiosity how much cargo space does the hull a have?

[burnt tundra]

I only have a titan but I am thinking of buying a freight/cargo <100-150

[minor minnow]

I bought the hull C but not in game yet. I got the hull a for a rental and I used it once. It does have a weapon locked and an inventory locker. That's a plus. Also has a bed

I'm not home to check prices but Connie ships are nice

Taurus is 170 something I think

Cargo space not sure on price

[toxic oyster]

if you want to do cargo runs for profits you want a herc or cat
anything below that isnt really worth it unless you really just enjoy the grind

[burnt tundra]

Is there anything a little cheaper? I don’t really want to spend 170 on my first trip you know, the hull a 80 so it’s a bit more expensive

[burnt tundra]

What is a her or cat? And how much is it

[toxic oyster]

hercules starlifter c2

its really expensive

caterpillar too

[burnt tundra]

Oh okay, but is there anything a bit more budget I can get?

[toxic oyster]

for cargo runs its all about volume and the ships with high cargo capacity are all large and expensive sadly

[burnt tundra]

Oh, that’s a shame, what other methods do you think are better (with less money to get a ship)

[toxic oyster]

bounties and mining are the best ways to make money

you can get a decent amount from doing bounties with most starter ships

[minor minnow]

I was helping a guy last night. I have the best cargo ship in the game right now and I would let him use the ship and fly it. I'd just buy/sell the stuff. Then I'd send the money back and I keep a profit of of profits. That we can talk about. I can hold almost 700 scu

[toxic oyster]

for mining you need a prospector

[minor minnow]

I have the Hercules by the way. What's the best cargo ship in the game.

[toxic oyster]

bunker missions are good too, and you dont need any special ship for it

[burnt tundra]

Damn man that’s nice of u!

[burnt tundra]

Okay, thanks. What would you say is a good (budget ish) bounty ship. I have like 100-150. Would prefer to spend less

[minor minnow]

We did a couple runs each run was a profit of almost 100k in the run only takes about 20 minutes

[burnt tundra]

That’s a ton!

[toxic oyster]

best to ask people in #flight-combat-racing

[minor minnow]

I'm more than happy to help people starting out that don't have these ships I always recommend having two people on board when you do a cargo run in case the game crashes you now have somebody else in your ship so your ship doesn't despawn

[burnt tundra]

Oh true! Thanks

[toxic oyster]

I did my bounties with a cutlass black until I got a gladius and vanguard ingame

but thats certainly not the most efficient

[burnt tundra]

That’s nice man! I’ve had the game for 2 years but I’ve not played much and I am trying to get into it

[minor minnow]

Feel free to add me on Discord and when I'm home later tonight I can help you out I'm on East coast

[burnt tundra]

I’m travelling right now, but when I’m back I’m super down!

[minor minnow]

I also have four miners. Two prospectors and two moles. So those of you that ever want to do some mine and to make some cash I'm more than happy to help you guys out so you don't have to pay the rental fees and I have a ship to deliver the goods after. A lot of new miners throw it in the refineries and don't think about the fact that they need a cargo bay in order to actually deliver them

[burnt tundra]

Thanks man! I would like to try the prospector some time. I added you btw. Hopefully see you soon!

[minor minnow]

Once the Orion is released I'll have that. I own the ship already and I'm just waiting for the release date I also have the expanse so we're fine and will be pretty easy. Ships valued at around $5,000 USD so I have all the important ships

[burnt tundra]

I wish I had enough money for that! Sounds sick

[minor minnow]

I've owned the game since 2019.

[spark cradle]

Why does the sc trading tool show less profit for an A2 than for an Caterpillar when everything else is the same ?

[north oyster]

The A2 has way less storage because of all the bombs. The M2 is about same as CAT in cargo

[thin escarp]

@empty kite oh I agree it's trash update for mining. But the mole isn't that efficient/optimal for solo purposes. It's a multicrew ship. People just do it anyway.

[north oyster]

3.17 is a dumpster fire and reminds all that this isn't a game, just a sandbox demo for now. Mining has taken a shot in the knee but still can hobble along for now

That deadzone between the ping and when you can scan is stupid ridiculous. Probably will be addressed in next patch.

[sacred loom]

You guys may know already but when u find a patch if u stop using TAB and just fly towards that area , it often does not dissapear and the scannable rock is infront of you, no deadzone

[spark cradle]

ah ok

[spark cradle]

thanks

and what is the diference between the M2 and the C2 ?

[sacred loom]

M2 is military

[north oyster]

Armor

[spark cradle]

ok and which one would you recomend for trading?

[north oyster]

C2

[spark cradle]

ok thx

[north oyster]

That's what I own and use

[sacred loom]

Me Also

Fantastic ship, so cool to fly

[spark cradle]

would you say trading with it is morer profitable than bounty hunting?

[sacred loom]

deffinetly not

Bounty hunting is the most profitable source in game if you have the right certs

[spark cradle]

i only have an gladius and play solo

[sacred loom]

Perhaps Quant mining if u get lucky

Are u upto VHRT or ERT cert?

[spark cradle]

HRTs but almsot VHRT

but it has become more dificult since the last patch

[sacred loom]

Group VHRT is 60k a go + bonus, Group ERT is 80k + bonus

ppl can do the whole group in 10 - 15 mins, perhaps less

[silk ridge]

I'll start mining again today.

Any nasty new bugs to be aware off?

[sacred loom]

cant scan rocks until 800m now

still heaps unscannable in the Halo

[shy crane]

agreed....tried last night....thought my laser was broken....since they told us it was all fixed

[silk ridge]

800m is normal for me. I only fly in mining mode, so that's normal.

[sacred loom]

Its well different u will see

But u can still make money, I found heaps of sweet rocks already

[shy crane]

that's true too 🙂

[silk ridge]

What exactly is different?
I always fly close to the asteroids to scan them. And unscannables are normal too, since I always mine the halo.

[sacred loom]

Might not be different for u then, for me u could scan at 10k before in the Halo, u could scan everything while flying. was super easy. Now it's not like that

[north oyster]

There is a new "Deadzone" of when the ping won't provide a return any longer and you have to find the deposit "blindly" but that isn't an issue in the Halo as a rule

[shy crane]

In Lyria I haven't found any yet....but plenty in the halo

[silk ridge]

Yes, in scan mode. But like I said, I fly in mining mode, because it shows more rocks then the Scan mode. And in mining mode you need to get much closer to scan them properly.

So the whole distance thing doesn't really matter.

[sacred loom]

Lyria has underground deposits. I hate that shit

Mining mode shouldnt show any more than scan should it?

Thats weird

[silk ridge]

I don't like Lyria because of the number of players there hunting miners.

I'll check what refinery has the worst yield for Quantanium and use that as my base. No ody will be there. Especially no pirates who camp it like ARC-L1 or CRU-L1 xD

[sacred loom]

U can fly down Manually to a spot on Lyria and not use a jump point. You should not be followed

[silk ridge]

Alot more rocks show up with mining mode. Especially Duos. If you switch to Scan-mode, they vanish. You can scan them, but they don't have any markers.

[sacred loom]

Ok, I will not knock it as I have not tried it

Will give it a whirl next time

[shy crane]

did not know that.....thanks

[silk ridge]

And with the lower scan distance, the scan mode has no benefit anymore xD

[sacred loom]

So u just fly round with the laser out?

Just 'hanging out' huh xD

[shy crane]

just not in polite company 😉

[sacred loom]

^^

[silk ridge]

I found out about that by accident. I kept mining mode on and saw the markers, but they vanished when I switched to Scan-mode and reappeared when I went back to mining mode.

Since I fly in Mining mode, I only need half the time to find a good cluster. xD

[sacred loom]

It takes a bit longer now

Everyone has there Methods

[shy crane]

coolio.....well I've found clusters in the halo and Lyria since the patch...might have taken a little longer but I'm happy

[sacred loom]

Same here

Whats your in game name Grimjackk?, might add you, go for a fly sometime?

[silk ridge]

I give every spot 15 minutes, If I don't find anything I switch the Halo-band.

[shy crane]

same name

maybe one less k in game....can't tell....lol

[sacred loom]

all g Ill figure it out, Catch u boys later Im out

[silk ridge]

Can't wait to hop into my Prospector again. It's been way too long. I died enough in bunkers... I want some peace and chillwave music.

If you want, you can add me as friend in game "Lyra_Shaw" I like to share big clusters with fellow miners if it's more than my Prospector can carry.

[tulip roost]

Is there any S2 quantum drive that spools/calibrates faster than the others?

[strange laurel]

Are there any good mining locations around MT?

[silk ridge]

Not for Prospectors ... Winds are too strong on MT amd moons.

[strange laurel]

Is there an astroid belt close?

[silk ridge]

The XL-1 is the fastest spool time, followed by yaeger and a more allrounder Crossfield

Best check erkul to find the right one for your needs.

[silk ridge]

The Halo is around the whole System. Best check the pins. You'll find links to the distance-charts for the Halo from all the refineries

[strange laurel]

Ah ok, thanks :D

[deep vector]

For everything))

[silk ridge]

I kinda want to bring my Prospector to Calliope or Eutepe and try to mine a rock ... 😆

[gusty wren]

Is the Hull A 65 or 48 SCU? I keep seeing differing information

[austere void]

Worth running drugs with a titan?

[mighty gazelle]

Man mining is different. Alot of changes for the good but feel like scouts are way more beneficial now

[manic estuary]

Interesting... looks like this radar scanning issue was reported earlier but archived as "working as intended" ... https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-35968

so if that's the case.. did they just remove radar signatures altogether? I can literally visually inspect the rocks before I can scan them....

[supple cedar]

where are the best locations to mine with the roc and how to find those locations?

[west bay]

what happened to scanning? Mining on Lyria is tough now

did they roll it back or something?

[manic estuary]

pings will give you a general area of where something is.. you won't find out about what it is until you're within 1000m, so every single ping result needs to be investigated now. No more radar signatures telling you sizes and stuff....

[silk ridge]

I keep flying in mining-mode exclusively. No reason to change that, since you have to get much closer now. xD

[manic estuary]

interesting, with all this space ship technology, we're using our eyes more... nice vision RSI

[west bay]

sigh the old addege "If it aint broke, change it"

[manic estuary]

or nerf it until they buy

[silk ridge]

They probably want mining to be less profitable to get it in line with other stuff.

[manic estuary]

maybe they don't want people to earn creds but just do the actual work... more role playing exp than financially rewarding exp

because I like sipping water, going to the washroom, riding the train, touching the rocks with my hands

[silk ridge]

As long as I can mine the Halo in peace, without any combat, I won't complain. XD

[manic estuary]

i did have a semi-successful run in the halo yesterday, until it completely dried up as if quanta is happening

8 mins to find a 5k 38%, then 2 hours to find another rock, which never happened

mostly because of the inefficient scanning now and having to investigate every ping response

[silk ridge]

Try to fly only in mining mode. It shows rocks and clusters that won't show up in other modes.

[manic estuary]

Will try that, thanks

[supple cedar]

I have a roc and im on aberdeen, but almost all ping are actual rocks and not like hadanite or dolvine and that stuff so am i doing something wrong or is it just rare to find that here

[silk ridge]

you need to fly low and slow. The ROC-Rocks are marked with diamond-Symbols.

[west bay]

finding a ton of minerals "crystal icons" on lyria now

oh is that what they are called

are they worth it?

[supple cedar]

yeah but i almost never find those, im also flying low with the cutty black and whenever that cube shows up its like a rock icon and not the gems

[silk ridge]

Try another region or another moon. I always find tons of those when I'm out without my ROC XD

[supple cedar]

ok where do you find those?

like what moons

is the best for finding roc-rocks

[west bay]

well rip mining I guess

[manic estuary]

you can always get 5000 uec creds for $5 from the store!

[silk ridge]

try Lyria or other areas on Aberdeen. I find alot of those on Deymar too. ... Sometimes it takes a bit to find them.

[manic estuary]

smh

[silk ridge]

lol

[supple cedar]

okay

[west bay]

2 hours of searching only to find this on lyria

2.10% of quant........ so sad

[silk ridge]

That's my Life on Lyria. Even before 3.17. ... That's why I go to the Halo. I always have more luck there.

[west bay]

also are surge and storm still relevant?

[halcyon brook]

Scanning a mess for everyone?

[west bay]

oh yes a hot mess

[silk ridge]

Always, unless you want to use gadgets instead. As long as there are large rocks or time constraints, surge and others will be relevant.

[halcyon brook]

Ok good to know. Thought I was going mad

[silk ridge]

Not a mess. Working as intended.

[west bay]

as you can see for my mods I am using Vaux, Reiger, and Focus for a more passive approach

[manic estuary]

scanning is not a mess, it was changed to reduce your chances at earning auec

they decided to remove radars or make it completely ambiguous to "i think there's something over there"

and that something is in all directions, might as well just walk.

[silk ridge]

I used a Vaux-C3/Vaux-C3/Rieger-C3 build for quiet a while. ... Now I use 1 Surge and a whole lot of Brants

[manic estuary]

if you're doing halo mining, no surge/brandt required.. rieger/vaux is a nice combo.. i just tried 3x vaux-c2 (cheaper/less risk), worked nicely

[west bay]

ok heading to halo will report back shortly

[manic estuary]

moon mining, i always go with optimum+surge+stampede or surge+stampede

[austere void]

Can rented prospector mine quant?

[silk ridge]

I just use the surge to crack faster. 🤣
I'm impatient as hell.

[manic estuary]

yea i do the same

[west bay]

rented procs can't. Unless that also changed in 3.17

[manic estuary]

but with those 3x riegers, it speeds it up a bit

[silk ridge]

Yes. with Mining gadgets it can.

[austere void]

Is it financially smart to do that?

[silk ridge]

It's still a pain with the default laser tho.

[manic estuary]

there's some gadget tutorials up on youtube now for rented prospectors

[manic estuary]

might be, if you're saving for a prospector

[silk ridge]

Only if you're good with the tight optimal windows at high instability.

The Gadgets are reusuable after all.

[manic estuary]

i might start bringing a boremax with me, if i encounter those 7k+ mass rocks

[silk ridge]

Tiny overcharge = Gadgets dead x_x

[manic estuary]

ahhhh good to know

[silk ridge]

I will stick to Surges and brants. ... just finally need to make it a habit to use my brants completely before docking, since you cant see remaining uses anywhere x_x

[austere void]

One way to find out 😁😁😏

[austere void]

Yeah trying to buy one. Been doing illegal monitoring missions lol

[silk ridge]

Good luck 😆

[empty kite]

Like I say, I disagree, the ship has 1-3 lasers does not mean all lasers must be used to mine. It simply can accommodate more if one fancied it. Does that mean all ships with gunner seats must all be used or not at all? Besides, the current game loop would mean 3 people are sat idle doing nothing for the entire time of finding rocks, flying back and forth from refinery. The multi crew part of the ship only really becomes valid on the very specific requirement where the rock is larger than a single laser’s capability. The mole is basically a larger prospector with a larger cargo hold and the ability to carry more than 1 operator.

[thin escarp]

rental prospector is bootycheeks

[west bay]

so far halo is just a bunch of dud rocks

[thin escarp]

@west bay yep

[silk ridge]

That's normal. xD

[thin escarp]

ghost rocks are in the halo

@empty kite You pretty much agreed with what I said.

It's not really that optimal or efficient but people still do it because they can and some even prefer it.

I'll rephrase my previous answer a bit

[silk ridge]

I'd use the Mole only solo. One laser fitted for breaking and one for scooping. Done. 😆

[west bay]

shudder

[thin escarp]

Generally I just have a extra laser and a scout for great results.

[empty kite]

Ah, I could have misread your text. I think my point mainly is that the mole is a very good solo ship. More so than multi crew ship. As like I say you essentially are leaving crew mates idle for 90% of the process of mining. The mole is essentially a full kitted out mining ship with 3 different laser heads a single person could chose from for different requirements.

[thin escarp]

eh I could slightly disagree. You should come to one of my mining operations and really see the moles potential.

[empty kite]

You could keep dropping off and picking up your crew members so they can go out and scout while you’re transferring ore then pick them up at a rock but that involves a lot of clunky landing and returning them to ships which is just not really efficient

[empty kite]

Multi crew is only beneficial for initial cracking of rock. You have plenty of time to single handily scoop up the ore your self and fly it back. Besides multiple people all extracting at once makes for messy ore extraction management and you end up with lots of filler ore wasting space: two lasers and you can crack everything no problem. 3 lasers is not required

Now having 3 separate solo Moles.. 288 scu of cargo… now we’re talking

[manic estuary]

@thin escarp how you liking all these scanning changes man... you a fan?

[thin escarp]

@manic estuary been through this before. I got yall no worries

we've been working on the new guide for weeks.

[manic estuary]

awesome, much appreciated!

[thin escarp]

I'll have a new scouting video out in the next week too

[frail cypress]

have you noticed how some ships have different scan ranges than others? will you inclue this in the scout video?

[thin escarp]

I'll have list of recommended scouting ships etc

[empty kite]

Have you found a better solution instead of basically having to fly to each box to find a cluster? So annoying

[thin escarp]

Man we use to have to visually scan its been worse than this guys.

[manic estuary]

lol that's the new way... there's some parallax effect now that you can detect to see the rocks before they appear again... ping results disappear within 5km range

[thin escarp]

yep

[manic estuary]

ping a lot, might make the white boxes appear... seems to be inconsistent tho

but damn, being nerfed to visual scanning shows me their intentions

[static acorn]

Is there a "best" place to mine hadenite ?

[manic estuary]

we were making too much auec 🙂

[thin escarp]

@static acorn aberdeen arial daymar

in that order.

[static acorn]

@thin escarp thank u

[thin escarp]

@manic estuary half a billion auec mined in my operations since the new year.

[manic estuary]

I don't mind the changes on to guaranteed quant on deposits 2+ or clusters.. that's ok

scanning changes though, effectively removing all radar signatures makes no sense to me

it has to be a bug, otherwise they're removing actual working features

[thin escarp]

Probably removed something because we're waiting on a feature

[west bay]

has the devs said anything on this?

[manic estuary]

can you even scan ships anymore?

[thin escarp]

yes they said working as intended

@west bay

[west bay]

boo

[manic estuary]

nothing in the patch notes about these changes, just its working as designed in the countless issues reported

at least one of them has a lot of traction/complaints now.. over 200

[west bay]

guess its just defense missions for eternity now

[thin escarp]

@manic estuary legit though I was thinking Chris Robert's saw my 4.5 month mining report over a half billion and he was like. I must stop Cross

[manic estuary]

here's an example of where they closed it: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-35968

[manic estuary]

just let them know bout that one time i got hurt leaving your ship 🙂

[thin escarp]

I only have like 102 mil myself.

@manic estuary

[manic estuary]

don't tell too many people or the wipe police gonna come for you

[west bay]

I use to have 175K. Then I spent like 100k of that for mining mods (This was right before 3.17 went live) Now I am at 86K with this broke ass mining life now

[static acorn]

@thin escarp do i need any special suit for aberdeen ?

i know u do for Arial

[thin escarp]

@static acorn just snag the Pembroke suit

[static acorn]

so i take it u need ?

[thin escarp]

@manic estuary bruh I had over a billion when 3.15 dropped and that was after I gave away 800 mil the last 8 days

🤣🤣🤣

[manic estuary]

yeah.... refinery duping much? 😉

[thin escarp]

@manic estuary nah man they didn't wipe for 1.5 years.

[manic estuary]

i actually dont know when that was a thing, but i've heard stories

[thin escarp]

we had mined over 5 billion in that time

[manic estuary]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-36283 the scanning issue getting some traction, not quite 200 yet

I have a few milly banked but I'm afraid to spend it now... need to manage savings now with these changes

[west bay]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-sucker-party-pooper-thief-of-joy-you-are-a-thief-of-joy-the-office-gif-11156413

[north oyster]

Cross and I along with large number of souls got wipe of hundreds of millions (billions actually) of aUEC

[plucky pollen]

Can I put boxes anywhere in my ship or only in the little cargo bay? I have the 100i ship

[north oyster]

most anywhere

[plucky pollen]

Oh ok

What do I do with the boxes btw?

[subtle cradle]

What boxes?

[north oyster]

Deliveries or boxes you pick up at sites (loot)?

[plucky pollen]

I have a mission to collect a black box but I also picked up I few other that were at the crash site

[north oyster]

check with a store, they may buy. But might not

[subtle cradle]

You can sell those at an admin terminal or TDD

It's not worth it though

[empty kite]

Signed

[red path]

So I’m trying to get into shipping, my ship has 96 storage - how do I know what to buy and where to take it?

[bold yew]

https://youtu.be/Ot7Zh3lZyQ0?t=321

[red path]

I saw scrap at one shipping terminal - should I just fly around and see what has good prices?

[north oyster]

check out Jack Axton's Trade Refresher course on YT

[red path]

Ty

[north oyster]

That is such a small amount of cargo, you're not going to make much of an income

[bold yew]

Although I am not sure if any small haul drug running might be back in or not. I was able to buy from outpost that I could not last patch, ones that did not have landing pads.

I think the real blocker will be selling, not buying though.

[plucky pollen]

Do I just walk to the store with the box in my hands?

[north oyster]

ships not showing up in the terminal is suppose to be fixed, we shall see

[north oyster]

no, you should be able to sell from your ship

[plucky pollen]

Like once I'm on a landing pad?

[north oyster]

yeah, but that is IF they buy what you have, which is the wildcard

[plucky pollen]

How do I see if they sell it? Like do I press f2 and is there a sell menu in there?

[red path]

96 is too small to make an income, what are other things I would use with that 96?

Like do light freight ships have a point I guess

[north oyster]

carry refined Quantainium that you have mined to market

[red path]

I see, so precious cargo

[north oyster]

Or Carry a ROC and go mining with it. That's roughly 250K aUEC (give or take) per run

You can do medical supplies, but the buy back is real slow

[red path]

Ty, very useful info

[north oyster]

ROC mining is very inexpensive to get into, unlike Ship mining. You can rent a ROC for only 4K aUEC or buy one for 172K aUEC at New Deal

You will need a Pembroke armor set (about 15k expense). Aberdeen is the planet you want to mine on for Hadanite

[ocean bluff]

I have a roc but no transport

[north oyster]

You can Rent a Cutlass Black

[tender quiver]

How much scu is that ?

[north oyster]

40 SCU

[ocean bluff]

where can i rent one

[round current]

100 units is 1 scu

[north oyster]

At the Refinery store or shipping hubs

[ocean bluff]

i can rent one there?

[north oyster]

Yes, I think it's about 45K for 24 hour rental

[ocean bluff]

ok thanks

[north oyster]

If you have a good window of time, you can make several trips in the ROC and earn 10x the expense back

[ocean bluff]

ok cool

[north oyster]

don't forget your Pembroke armor either

it's found in the "undersuit" category and also has a helmet

[ocean bluff]

ok thanks

[hollow sedge]

@thin escarp You find a workaround for the Argo Mole tiny UI?

Or anyone find a workaround for the tiny UI on the Argo Mole?

[frail cypress]

press Lshift?

[empty kite]

Alt + mouse wheel

[hollow sedge]

what does that do?

[empty kite]

Or hold F 🤣

Both should zoom

[hollow sedge]

lol

f is useless

Alt mouse doesnt work on side lasers 😦

[empty kite]

Ohh that’s crap

[frail cypress]

what about Lshift? for me it zooms in making the UI readable

[hollow sedge]

L shift?

[frail cypress]

left shift

[hollow sedge]

NICE

[honest creek]

how to expand hull a spindle?

[ocean bluff]

where is a ship hub?

[polar flame]

are there any good new solo prospector on lyria guides out for 3.17?

[lapis musk]

Asteroid mining for quant is brutal in this new patch. For some reason every time I ping, the "white boxes" disappear when I reach 5k from them and are not replaced with an asteroid marker until I'm within 500m... Is it broken or was this a purposeful decision by CIG?

I will not be mining at all this patch if it stays like this.

[frail cypress]

just ping again at around 5.5km, the box will stay there until you reach the rock. depends on your speed ofc

[ruby mango]

is roc mining or prospector mining more profitable generally?

[toxic citrus]

Prospector is way better

But comes at a price obviously

[lapis musk]

I did and it disappears completely and never comes back. You basically have to manually search for the rock after that and sometimes you just don't find it.

[lapis musk]

Usually prospector

Because you can mine quantanium which is the most valuable mineral currently

Never saw any notes from CIG on this which leads be to believe it is a bug

[frail cypress]

strange, it works for me in a prospector. ping once to get the box, fly towards it, ping again at ~6km, keep flying there and the box stays until 1km

[lapis musk]

Okay maybe it was just my server

Youve played 3.17 correct?

[frail cypress]

playing it right now

[lapis musk]

Hmmm ok

That's good to hear

I'm holding out hope. Lol

[frail cypress]

theres also this, but i can't make it work consistently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7Zh3lZyQ0&t=400s

[lapis musk]

Thx

[toxic citrus]

Such orion clickbait, thats unfortunate

[frail cypress]

point is, he can make out number of rocks with a narrow fov ping from 12km

but i could only make it work twice in the halo

[toxic citrus]

I hope bigger mining ships will have a longer scan range

I would make sense too.

[frail cypress]

that already works kinda, some ships get detailed scan info from 300, other 150 meters

same for partial scan, 600m vs. 1200

[toxic citrus]

Doesnt mole have the same range as a prospector tho

Its considerably bigger i'd say

[frail cypress]

yea this is for non mining ships

mole and prospector are same

but for example, sabre gets rock composition from 150, cutlass blue from 300 meters

[toxic citrus]

Interesting

[frail cypress]

would be interesting to test it with the reclaimer since it has size L radar

[toxic citrus]

Mmh

[frail cypress]

whereas cutty is only size M

[toxic citrus]

Though i doubt reclaimer will be any good

You would hit every roid on a belt

And barely fly in atmo

[frail cypress]

yea not for actual scouting, just to see if it makes a difference

[toxic citrus]

Yeah

[autumn cedar]

Need confirmation: in 3.17 Lancet is still the go-to laser for Quant, when using Prospector?

[toxic citrus]

Yep

It is

[bold yew]

It is still the best because of breaking the smaller rocks you need the stability.

[autumn cedar]

lol trippy animation in refinery shop terminal

will optimax fit into a medium rucksack?

[toxic citrus]

Should

[weak hound]

Anyone down to teach me the new method for mining Quant in 3.17

[rose cove]

Theres a new method?

[toxic citrus]

Thats what i was thinking too

There aint a new one

[real axle]

Has anyone tried the new mining gadgets yet?

[weak hound]

Not the method for mining, but the new system

Like

How to find Quant

[halcyon brook]

It’s the same as 3.16, but with a slightly more broken scanner

[modern smelt]

is cargo hauling just permenantly broken

[neat talon]

what are good attachments for mole

[halcyon brook]

How is it broken?

[warped glen]

@thorn terrace did they fix selling scrap to Clovus in this update?

:^)

[thorn terrace]

....

i told you to come here bc i dont know lmao

hahahha

i dont do cargo

[waxen agate]

if someone can help, I've been trying to sell some gems I mined earlier today but can't get the ship to show on the trade terminal, I've tried storing, retrieving, landing back, nothing makes it show up

[rotund prairie]

so is quant mining broken now?

have heard ppl claim that

wondering if any validity to it

[thin escarp]

go sell at the station you called ur roc from

[waxen agate]

I'm at HUR-1, my ship is a Titan, the gems are on its inventory

[thin escarp]

go sell at lorville

or tdd

in area 18

?

[waxen agate]

I can try

but I really don't know what's going on, I go down to refinery deck and go into the trading console, the Destination doesn't show my ship

@thin escarp this is what I see

nvm

managed to sell it on admin panel

[leaden quarry]

Question, I accepted a work order to deliver my goods. I glitched out and died and wanna re log. Does that effect the ship and its cargo? The ship is still in storage and wasn't touched

I just glitched through the elevators

[waxen agate]

I think contracts don't persist over relog

[leaden quarry]

It's not a contract, its from the refining terminal. Just normal cargo

[plucky venture]

Is it looking like ROC mining could be more profitable than quantanium in a prospector now?

[frigid harness]

why is that so

[leaden quarry]

Is refining worth it atm? Or just selling on site?

[plucky venture]

Me and 2 others were mole mining and our luck was straight awful to the point where roc mining seems like it would be more profitable

And to make it worse a part of quantanium got glitched through the ground. It seems so inconsistent now

[flint breach]

@plucky venture ya im having very bad luck with quantainium now

[frigid harness]

gotta hope for 3.18 i spose

[flint breach]

seems like doing bunkers is becoming more profitable

[plucky venture]

Yeah I heard it’s somehow been nerfed in 3.17

Yeah I might just try out how much profit can be made from roc mining

[flint breach]

if they are gonna make quantainium scarce

they need to have a quantainium scanner mod

that highlights the rock if you ping a quant rock

[snow swift]

I started 2 days ago and from yesterday i have like 4 missions in my mobiglass but they are not in my range any tips how I could earn some money ? Thanks

[charred mortar]

I'm about to just load up my Hull A for bunker missions honestly

[flint breach]

@charred mortari made 150k off 1 bunker mission

i got 2 boxes of hadanite and dolv and sold it all

[austere void]

I'm doing the wrong missions

Here I thought I was kicking ass doing illegal monitor missions 😂

[minor slate]

Is there a way to attach modules without storing the ship and going through vehicle management?

[neat talon]

whats a good cargo route

[inland walrus]

what is the most profitable material?

[dapper solstice]

Anyone been having an issue trying to generate a crate? I mean, I've been generating them fine, but when I open them, the inventory doesn't appear. I've lost like 6 bags with this.

[tepid hawk]

Is there any way to offload hadanite from a roc into a box or storage container or hell even just transfer it all from the ROC to my c2 without moving things individually?

I remember in the past the hadanite stacked and when you pulled it out you spawned a small box

[strong mesa]

Can you mod a rented prospector?

[rough cove]

Only through glitches

[strong mesa]

hmm

is there risk doing it?

[rough cove]

Don’t know, never tried it myself

[strong mesa]

i see, thanks

[sour cairn]

They're used to be now idk u should be able to sell it directly to any of the stations that are on said moon idk if that's changed yet but at least you'll be able to off load without leaving to a main planet

[tepid hawk]

yeah I just want to like, stock up on a million or two mil worth of hadanite and then go make my money in one shot rather than making trips back and forth

[sour cairn]

it might be nerfed cause of the cargo refactor

[thin escarp]

@north oyster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7Zh3lZyQ0

We were able to recreate this

So

Quant is def back on the menu

Also.

I'll be making a new scouting video with this added in.

with gadgets and all.

@fair slate enjoy

@marble crater

i skipped to the part he's in the ship

[dull isle]

where can i pick up some ores cargo?

[warped glen]

Have they fixed selling scrap with this update

Or do you still have to use those admin offices

[fair slate]

not to shabby... kinda taking a huge break frm mining after the last week+

[marble crater]

Thanks for the heads up!

[soft meadow]

anyone want to do roc mining?

[weak hound]

If you're still around sure

I've got a couple hours to kill

[soft meadow]

I switched to bounties cause my miner is bugged

[weak hound]

Ok

[tawny path]

anyone mining?

[mystic stone]

yes sir

[mystic stone]

yes indeed

[empty kite]

Yeah this is the most efficient way at the moment. Much more favourable than flying to each box 🙄

[visual turret]

How is the ground mining doing now?

Is it still broken af? Or is it actually workable

[timid tiger]

Roc mining? seems fine

no issues the few times i have done it

[pine yew]

so everyone is supposed to be able to fly MISC ships until may 16 right. so where can i access my prospeecter?

[toxic citrus]

Thats not how it works lol

[pine yew]

i think im stuypid. am i readin g it wrong?

[toxic citrus]

Very much so

[visual turret]

Yea it's about behind the scenes?

I think

So if ROC mining works I might try doing that to grind an couple mil

[visual turret]

Unless anyone got different suggestion to grind money?

[toxic citrus]

Grind halt illegal surveilances till ya can afford a prospector

[visual turret]

Hmmm

[toxic citrus]

Thats what i did

[visual turret]

What ship did you grind with?

[toxic citrus]

325A

[visual turret]

How long did it take you complete every time?

[toxic citrus]

roughly 5-10 mins

depends where the monitors spawned

[visual turret]

Alright

[toxic citrus]

So a rough total would be 100 halt illegal surveilances

[glacial dagger]

Dont forget to take into account fuel and ammo costs

[toxic citrus]

taking about between 500-1000 minutes total

[toxic citrus]

Call to arms covers that.

[visual turret]

True

[toxic citrus]

Call to arms covers it more than easily

You can always run full laser

[visual turret]

Also depending on if NPCs spawn or not that can affect if I need goto station because of that

And yeah I run lasers only

[toxic citrus]

Well not really

Unless its a fucking mantis

I hate those

[visual turret]

Eh it's usually the smaller ships that are menace because how fast they out turn me

[toxic citrus]

I usually end up baiting them to go full speed and go past me and then quantum away

[glacial dagger]

Of you just take a Bucc in and S4 then to hell and back 😄

[toxic citrus]

waste of 1.4 mil to me

325a or titan will do it just fine

[visual turret]

Yeah I rock an titan

[north oyster]

You may already know this, but for the illegal monitors, find all 3 first. When you get about 1,500 meters away you get a persistent pip.

[visual turret]

Ah.

I should probably take this convo back into #flight-combat-racing

[north oyster]

Also, ROC mining is much improved

The new ping allows you to pickup deposits much further away

[visual turret]

That's good

I used to do ROC mining to grind money

[north oyster]

You will need a Pembroke armor set

[visual turret]

Did they finally make the Cold / Heat more dangerous now?

[north oyster]

Also a ship to carry it

[visual turret]

Or does it affect you in the ROC now?

[north oyster]

Environment is there

Also thirst and hunger decay rate is brutal. Stock you ship with supplies

[north oyster]

Yes, no buff for being in the ROC

[silk ridge]

I mined my first 3.17 Quantanium Rock yesterday while Transporting foods and drink and modules. Made a short stop at the halo between Hurston and ARC-L1. .... took me only 10 minutes to find a good rock.

I like the new Rock scanning, especially since you don't have to be as precise as before while in mining mode ... but I fly fast ... I'd love to have 500m more to the rock to compensate for the lack of flying skills 😆

[visual turret]

Ah so doing the poor mans route of running in and out of ROC is no more

[silk ridge]

Oh ya ... Hunger is ok... but thirst is just crazy ...

[visual turret]

Also how's your guys luck with finding Minerals in the bunker missions?

[north oyster]

I only mine Aberdeen

[visual turret]

Ah

[autumn cedar]

so in 3.17 scanning the rock's composition hasn't changed, right? Get close to it and either do it with a scanner or point the mining arm at it?

[toxic citrus]

It has

You need to be around 120 meters to scan the composition now

[autumn cedar]

oh

ah well, i'm at 30m 🙂

I guess just bad luck, all duds so far

[silk ridge]

Halo or Lyria?

[autumn cedar]

in Aaron atm

[silk ridge]

I haven't had a single Dut yesterday in the halo ... which is weird ... but a whole lot of E/N/P types x_x

granted... it only took me 10 minutes to find a good rock... so I was probably just super lucky

I fond this here very interesting. Will try that in the halo too.

https://youtu.be/_48GhSXGf-g

[halcyon brook]

That videos demo seems more like a bug than a mechanic. Is there an official source for how scanning should work in 3.17?

[toxic citrus]

No?

Thats how it works now

[halcyon brook]

So no official source, just someones guess that this is how it's supposed to work? Soz, but to me it "feels" like a bugged system

[autumn cedar]

finally found a non-dud, phew was getting afraid that Aaron doesn't like me poaching around anymore

[royal merlin]

are there maps of resources? I'm mining for the first time and I would like to stay in the MT system for now but I dunno which MT moons are good for mining and what resources I should be focusing on

[silk ridge]

Doesn't really matter if it's a bug or not. If it works, it'll be used until it changes again. 🤣

[sacred loom]

Doesnt really work in the Halo, tried it man

[north oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7Zh3lZyQ0

[sacred loom]

This doesnt really work in the Halo, Well I didnt have any luck with it

[north oyster]

Cross posted this earlier

[sacred loom]

It does say in the Vid, it's a Lyria thing

[north oyster]

I agree, but I scan all targets

[silk ridge]

Sad. Might try Lyra again when I don't find anything in the Halo.

[sacred loom]

Ive had plenty of luck in the Halo anyway, just takes about 10 mins longer than normal

Dem rocks still be there

[autumn cedar]

So how is gem vacuuming with ROC in 3.17? You're supposed to scan groups of the buggers at a larger distance now, right? It's been ages since I last prospected for those. Aberdeen still a place to go?

[sacred loom]

its not that large, like 1.5km. Alot more gems tho

But u can vac to u hearts content without the wishy wash

Yep Aberdeen in the Penbroke suit. Gotta stay hydrated now. Bring water and food

Daymar if u dont want to use a suit

[silk ridge]

I'm tempted to go to Deymar for Quantanium. It's so pretty there. Love that moon.

[toxic citrus]

Lyria is better tbh

[autumn cedar]

that's an answer to Sleepfish, right?

[silk ridge]

It definitely is better. But Deymar looks better

[toxic citrus]

Yep

[autumn cedar]

In my early days, I used to go on Daymar in my Prospector, it's so serene out there

[silk ridge]

I hate mining on Lyria ... Pirates, all grey in grey and such a thin atmosphere that breaking and turning ar speed sucks ...

At least the Prospector got more Thruster capacity now.... so the Space-Break is actually somewhat useful.

[nocturne nacelle]

What’re people’s thoughts on the expanse?

[silk ridge]

If you aren't a solo miner, it's perfect.

Perfect for 2 people I'd say ... one refines while the other mines.

Pretty sure there are more uses, but as a solo mimer, the Expanse isn't anything I'm interested in.

[visual turret]

Haven't tried expanse yet

but does it actually refine?

[lime musk]

How fast would it refine 32 SCU of quantanium?

[sacred loom]

run the VK00 QT drive in Prospector if your doing small runs. I love that drive

12-14 hours with ferron Speedy

[lime musk]

I meant with the expanse sorry shouldve worded that better

[sacred loom]

I have no idea for that

[silk ridge]

There are no actual numbers communicated. All we know is that it's much faster than the big refineries. (no queue and competition with Quantum NPCs)

[silk ridge]

I'm not a fan of the VK-00 drive. I use my Prospector to buy modules or gear here and there and I don't want to re-fit it all the time 😆

I prefer the Atlas for that reason. Almost as fast but with much more range.

[sacred loom]

I love it man, shes so fast

Lyria to ARC L1 or around the Hurston Bands in the Halo, she boosts

[cedar flower]

Hull C is getting tractor beam turrets
this is exciting

source:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/18590-Introducing-The-MISC-Hull-A

[cedar scaffold]

what's the best way for a noob to get into cargo/mining please?

[steep dust]

start out small....do some hand mining to get a feel for it. Save up enough $$ to get a ROC and mine Hadanite on Aberdeen or Daymar..... then save up enough to get a Prospector (or rent one).... repeat..... PROFIT!

[lapis magnet]

Where can I buy the new stalwart gadget? Does arc L1 sell it?

[halcyon brook]

That's true. I was just saying it may not actually be as they intended for it to work .. like many other parts of the game that are now broken 😂

[silk ridge]

[cedar flower]

hear me out: S9 torpedo armed Hull C should be a thing

[robust osprey]

yo im having trouble with my C2 herc, installed a new QT drive and now it wont spool up , turns on fine thrusters and guns work fine but when i try to QT it says no power, the only componant i have changed is i put a ts-2 drive in there

[verbal cargo]

in your ship menu you have to power the QT on

[steep dust]

Try cutting power to all systems using the "U" key, and then repowering everything on with the "R" key

[robust osprey]

thanks i'll give this a try

[robust osprey]

is there a specific button inside the ship that does this? other than my b key

[verbal cargo]

when you're sitting in the pilot seat and power the ship on, there will be a screen you have to interact with that has a power tab, scroll through there to find the new QT drive and you'll have to click power or something like that

[robust osprey]

yo this fixed it guys thank you very much ❤️ @steep dust

purchased and upgraded 5 other ships and this is the only one that did this lol

[lilac hedge]

It looks a lot more stocky than what we've seen before

wait...

what the hell?

did...

did they shorten it?

[robust osprey]

damn that thing is really really phallic

[steep dust]

It even has a slight bend in it

[north oyster]

I see the Expanse as a stepping stone for the tech needed to bring the Orion to life. As for its role and usefulness, it was good enough for me to buy one. But getting it in game should be plenty good also

[weak hound]

When is it coming in game?

[lilac hedge]

Okay, they didn't shorten it, the middle section slides back into the rear section, and the hologram at IAE last year was actually a mistake

makes sense

[north oyster]

The Expanse is a concept sell to raise funds, so she's not in the game yet. But she will be able to refine most anything in game. There is an FAQ about her

[north oyster]

Anyone's guess but I'm thinking this time next year

[cedar flower]

no, the cutoff is still in the right spot
and the camera angle is weird

[north oyster]

HULL C when?!? LOL, can't wait for my baby to get here

[thin escarp]

@cedar scaffold @steep dust don't rent a prospector

[north oyster]

Or if you rent, understand that it is a trainer and not a big earner. You can make your rental back but you won't make big coin

[thin escarp]

^

[north oyster]

I don't know if the new attachments will make much of a different, but I'm not thinking they will

[lilac hedge]

Well, it's particularly because the IAE hologram was wrong that i thought they shortened it.

[north oyster]

I take the hologram (and some other shared shots) as only a reference for visual and never for final. It is pretty neat to be able to see the concept there floating. It almost made me spring for a Kraken, but I talked myself back off the ledge.

[weak hound]

Eh, could get lucky. May come out in 18 or 19

[steep dust]

This is true, it is more of a learning experience. I've been ROC mining and it's WAY more lucrative than renting a prospector.

[north oyster]

I think the pipeline is getting more streamlined and solid. I don't see it before the Corsair but could we see it by IAE? ... that'd be impressive

[weak hound]

Seriously lol

Hey, feel free to add me in game. I'm heading to work, but I should be off around 5 or 6 pm CST

[north oyster]

I'm excited for ROC mining again. That brutal slaughter of the game loop when 3.14 came out left me pretty salty. But now it's really fun to think we can now do ROC mining again and it be profitable (less 30k crashes)

[weak hound]

I think people forget how much value is in Hadanite. It's so worthless for getting out of prison, but sooooo worth it literally everywhere else

Like. It's kinda crazy how valuable it is for a newer player

[north oyster]

What the ROC offers because of the price of entry into mining is fantastic if done right.

[weak hound]

Like i made almost 20x my bunker mission on just the Hadanite I found inside the bunker

[robust osprey]

roc min ing before the update bought me a prospector in a day and a bit

[north oyster]

Now, you're looking at every trip out in a ROC to be a ~250K aUEC trip

For a new player, they only need a rental ROC and Cutty and Pembroke armor. So for 55K they can earn great coin

[weak hound]

...... .sorry what

[north oyster]

If you decide to push your luck (from a crash) and fill your ROC up, that's over 250K aUEC (or right at). Maybe saying a 200K per trip is more accurate.

Earnings

[robust osprey]

its easier than before now too, the roc used to break and would waste a bunch of time but it works great now from what i hear

[north oyster]

The collection has improved. I do think the wear/tear is still high, so do not use your ROC for more than two trips. Reclaim often

The ping improvements is what puts ROC mining back on the table as a legit earning loop

[robust osprey]

ping improvements?

[north oyster]

oh yeah, it's WAY better in 3.17. You can now pick up gem deposits over 2000 meters away. It's pretty awesome

[robust osprey]

damn nice, thats easier than looking for q asteroids now lol

[north oyster]

Yeah, we have to adjust our technique for searching in the Halo or on land

[weak hound]

How long does it usually take to fill it up?

[robust osprey]

is there any point changing the stock guns on my c2 to help against potential pirates or am i wasting my time

[north oyster]

of course it depends, but if you find 3 large deposits (8 rocks each) then 3 stops. But normally 5 stops to fill her up