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Flies like a bucket of shit, but it has personality
The big ships are tough enough that you can generally get into QT so long as you're not being damped
theres also people that do camp around trading routes
Never buy a load of cargo you can't afford to lose.
yeh
it would take pretty long to get to it from the cutty b, maybe after the cutty I could get the Maxman
it does seem like a very popular hauling ship
my cargo hauler has enough weaponary to takeout a hammerhaed lol @scarlet rover
in E:D you can really min-max for cargo space and warp, but it makes you so incredibly helpless
it was a frequent point of discussion among haulers
some people swore by the increased profit per trip
but man
Do delivery missions, bounties, illegal monitors, save up for a Prospector, use that to print money and buy whatever you like
hell if I'm flying almost a thousand tons of cargo with shields that would be best suited for a corvette
im running a prosp great simple mining money
Eh. GaR. You mined with new changes?
@hallow shore the reason why is the cargo refactor should make cargo physical - it has to get loaded and unloaded. The Cat has doors for each of its segments so theoretically it can load and unload faster.
Good point. The scanning distance thing looks like a bad time. I haven't actually played 3.17 yet
You hauling in an A2?!
v scanning is really ass rn
I'd not say it was the printer it was. Might be solid still.
I was interested in mining but I also wouldn't know where to start and it sounds like very unreliable money at the moment
It also has two tractor beam turrets
freelancer max with all the missiles and guns powerfull enough to take out a hammerhead
Yeah, might pay to see how things develop this patch
I'll def make the Cat my end goal then
it's also rentable but
it takes so much upfront money to make the round trips worthwhile
that I don't think it's really a valuable idea
and besides I'd want the pride and joy of calling it my own
maybe giving it a funny name and a cute hat
Trading isn't amazing at the moment. Quantum system and cargo refactor will be coming this year (touch wood) and seriously changing it up
Wrong - my ship exploded outside a trade area for no reason, lost everything
I just want the joy of stable profit and spess truckin
OH I thought you meant game crash, not ship crash. My b you right
Pretty sure they mean like game crash.
yeh cargo dont remain in ship go BOOM
cargo space? no, cargo boom
Plus side, after refactor, you can salvage and recover š
besides, there's plenty of value in getting a headstart learning the ropes and sweating for what I love. when they make hauling more powerful I'll be READY for it
along comes Case in his Vulture...
Everything in SC is a gamble lol. Shit can go bad any time
That's true. Trading is just pretty low profit with smaller ships right now. Having fun is fun, though.
I can't think of any game where trading is very profitable without bulk goods
my only beef is the shaky middle ground at the moment
when youd earn lots cause imma be running a c2 filled with laranite
the steps from "starting out" and "hauling 600SCU" are incredibly hazy
I would love to see SC implement shipping contracts like EVE has, where players can contract others to move stuff port to port
I'm putting strings on a whiteboard over here Pepe Sylvia style
charting out how to go from my lil basic binch starter to a hauler
in less than 10 years
if thats happen there would be hundred of contracts from me
I think it's feasible for the contracts, since some weapons, mining gear etc are only sold in particular locations. right now plenty of demand for someone to grab your stuff and bring it to your homeport so you can refit your ship
Few notes. Prices aren't nearly final. There will eventually be more of a range between sizes of haulers. That said I'm pretty sure there is also intention to have different cargo focus's depending on the ship. Some ships like C2 and Cat handling most bulk goods with some smallther cargo ships handing more specialized goods.
at least in E:D there's a greater range in prices so you can make baby steps towards the big boys
I assume (read: hope) it's part of the refactor
SC and the ship prices are both still very alpha. There is plenty of fun to be had. But it is an alpha. Not defending or justifying anything. Just remember it's an alpha. xD
I getcha I getcha
You can start out hauling scrap. It's low value but high margin. I think you can basically only sell it at L1 stations
One concern about buying ships in-game: persistent inventories across major patch updates. I haven't heard whether this is still happening, but in the past you were at risk of losing all the weapons, armor, ships etc you bought in-game since the last patch.
here's where someone says, "it's the journey, not the destination!"
can you at least contact folk about that to try and get it back? the pledge basically assures that ships and money at the bare minimum are kept between patches
don't care about weapons or reputation
did they fix the scrapyards??? Last I remember they were all offline
You can sell scrap at L1 stations since 3.16.
What do you mean by Major? Cause we just went 3.16.1 to 3.17. and people consider that a 'major' and we kept most this stuff this time.
ive got a warbond pledge for the kraken lol
that's why I was asking whether it would still happen or the plan was to continue persistence like the 16-17 update
Plan is to continue. But if econ changes need a wipe then we'll get one I'm sure.
When I first started out (3.15) I rented a Cat at IAE, spent all my money on a cargo of scrap, and couldn't sell it. That was fun
There will be additional 'full' wipes, but those will typically be broadcast well ahead of time
that's troubling to hear, but understandable on some level
bare minimum 1 when we go from alpha to beta, probably at least one mid beta, and one last one when the game goes into open beta/live release
Minimum yea.
Final Wipe will be a grand day indeed
Now (well, 3.16) when I take a load of refined ore to market, I take a Caterpillar full of scrap back and make another 30k on that
when the kraken is released it would be the best day of my life
we went like 18months between the last two full wipes which was kind of impressive, but they hinted wipes might be a bit more frequent in the future. last one was november so I doubt any time soon though
kraken and merchantman are ships ill be waiting on for however long
in the meantime I also strongly way the cutlass red
tho from what I gather medical is still in its infancy as a career
and the beacon stuff sounds really unprofitable
...still want me my space ambalamb tho
the cut red is 1.8m
I'm acutely aware
which makes only 15k per patient extra hard to swallow. but it sounds like they're going to be adding more elaborate medical duties and missions
eventuallyā¢ļø
Running support for an org at Jumptown could be a good money spinner
Or a good way to get instantly disassociated into your component atoms by an A2
the gamechanger was learning we could just shoot their bomb as soon as they released it
our fighters stopped shooting at the ship and then just targeted the nuke
they quit coming round after that lol
i like dropping a carrack 20k m from the air on people ships
Haha nice. I've seen that on YouTube but haven't tried it myself
also they finally fixed the prospector
oh it's legit lol. ended up with a very salty A2 pilot in the global chat
what had happened?
the mining mode HUD its not stupidly bright you cant read the works or see the charge lvl
its now ROC mining HUD brightiness finally (Normal) lo
its doesnt hurt my eyes watching the optimal window when im mining quant anymore
do you guys think cargo is worth it or should i stick to bunker missions for 60k?
bunkers until you get 2 million then do mining
anyone else's ore turn into inert material as they mine it?
then turn off mining mode and turn it back on
It's definitely a bug which occurred in older patches, something to do with desync while mining I think.
is it actually turning into inert material or just a bug on what it's displaying?
yeah iām tryna buy the prospector
might do an all nighter on bunkers honestly
Guess fuel running should be in here too? Anyone know how much to will it cost to fill up Starfarer Gemini?
Anyone having issues with the game eating mining heads/modules?
this is lovely, i cant scan rocks at range to see how many there are, have to get sub 1km, and when it is actually quant i cant scan the fuckin thing anyway, can scan everything else mind you
Tried both scans?
yes#
Ill check if its the same here, if it will stop eating lasers
well was just able to scan a quant rock so thats something
but getting rid of scanning the signatures at long range to see how many rocks there are, thats not fun
yea no mining is fully fucked for me, spent over an hour barely found a single quant rock because i cant find the rs signature of anything, and still cant scan rocks some of the time
Still trying to find something, managed to get the mininghead eating sorted
I guess im doing bunker missions then
i think im going to have to until they sort this out
We gotta wait till monday for them to fix it too 
0.85?
yea im done, found another quant rock, cant scan it again
Yeah
That issue is marked on issue council as unplayable as well
we just gotta wait
Is Aberdeen profitable for prospector mining? Or where is best?
Mining is borked rn
What happened? mole UI

Hmm, might have just been a bugged icon, it gave the normal rock symbol, but got gems out of it
In what way?
You cant scan most rocks at all
That'll do it.
Fair enough.
Also, separate question, did everyone know that the 3 day Roc rental - like 6K in 3.16? was bugged to be 30 days - 84K.
I clicked through too fast and spunked 84k š got 700 hours of rental though.
another 80 and u coulda bought 1 lol
I know. That was my Plan. It hurt me on a physical level once I'd realised my error.
Could be worse. SC can do many things.
this scanning change / bug suuucks
I feel like it aint a change
i saw in the patch notes scanning range was getting lowered but this def feels like a bug
guys where can i buy in game the C2 Hercules Starlifter?
hull a worth getting over a freelancer max or is it more of a starter cargo ship?
The Hull-A is an entry level cargo ship with room for 64 SCU of cargo
ah
hi guys, is there a guide to start cargo trading? :3
yeah is there, would be useful for me as well
I was jumped by three pirates near Grim Hex a few days ago. I had the landing icon on final approach. They knocked power off my ship but I had time to bed log and woke up on Grim Hex!!! I had my gear on so to me this is a cool shortcut to landing! Avoids the pad rammers.
If I buy 500k worth of medical supplies, can I sell it all at PO?
TDD A18
Ok thanks
I just went to the refinery where i had processed some ore its all gone do updates cause you to lose your refined ore?
i scouted for such a long time and barely found any quantanium rocks on lyria...
any better place to mine for quantanium in 3.17?
work orders got wiped when 3.17 was released
WTF how can they do that and not give people something for the loss?
they warned us that this would happen a couple of weeks ago...
it happens basically every large update
so be careful before 3.18 in a couple of months
Where do they post that stuff? I didnt see any warning?
im talking about the community
i saw people on discord, reddit and in game talking about it and telling people to sell their refined ore
im pretty sure cig also posts what will be wiped a couple of weeks before a big update goes live
you should be able to find that on their website and in some discord text chat
can someone explain to me what happened with scanning this patch
idk if its a bug or a feature but it sucks
Why would I buy the Hull A over the Raft, when the Raft holds more cargo and I can now get it in game, or am i missing something
The 3.17 update wiped my roc rental. Hard lessons learnt.
hi guys! how can i upgrade my c2 hercules for cargo? ty
when the hull a goes on sale in game its gonna be cheaper than the raft
just like on the pledge store
it just depends on ur budget, really
had it in a middle of sucking quant
if i was alone - fubar
im going to pause mining for now
30k's are going to be a common thing now. At least with mining you only lose time
I am having a Prospector, which head should I get?
I donāt mine and I saw it posted on here in an article!
Do people can mine in space ? I rented a prospector but when I try to mine, the progress bar sticks to 0
@muted sparrow yes you can mine in spce
then I'll give it another try...
the type of laser is important. You also have to understand as much the prospector is a good ship sometimes one laser is not enough when you have a big rock to mine. the new tools added should help. I havenāt tried it tho.
I already mined with a rented prospector by the past and had no issue, here, an asteroid with some aluminium + inert = not minable even on overclocked laser...
and as it is rented, I cannot upgrade it
anyone need a scout for mining
See the pinned guide at the top. Right now Lancet is the mack-daddy meta for mining
Thank you Tripper!
Also, you will want to learn about Aaron's Halo and the different bands.
@naive carbon this is a guide to the Halo. I have found that Band 1 is pretty awesome for Quan mining for me. Band 4 and 6 are also very good.
@north oyster thank you!!
Be sure to ask if you have any questions. For Quantainium mining in the Halo, you really don't need anything but the Lancet. I use Surge right off the bat to make the first break faster. I would recommend CRU-L1 as a base of Ops because it has a 3% Quantainium refinery bonus.
Also, use Ferron or Dinyx for refining
Ferron is twice as expensive as Dinyx but twice as fast. Dinyx is most economical but will take over 24hrs to process. Ferron gets same results in 12hrs
So good news for me since I moved to Hurston to roc mine on Aberdeen. I used to make 160k every 2 hours, but I can now make that in a bit over an hour depending on my luck.
Yep.
figures, the first time in PTU diving down I did a Lawn Dart and cratered
Whatās taking awhile to get used to is the importance of food and drinks. Having to carry a back pack for the first time just so I stay stocked up on stuff.
Do you know about diving down from OM-1?
No I usually just pick a direction from the outpost I pick my ROC up at and just go until I got 60/80 storage filled then go back to sell
Ok, that is good but also when there are marauders and pirates, it can be a little more risky.
But, under the OM-1 point on the surface it is always daylight
Have not had any issues with other players, then again I tend to avoid any players at all costs if I canš
I don't like mining in the dark, especially Aberdeen which is literally the darkest night I've ever seen.
So, diving to the surface from OM-1 you are guaranteed daylight everytime
you just need to be very careful with the Altimeter broken at this time
Iāll remember that. I normally five at a 15 degree descent pining the ground if I canāt see
best drugs to buy when smuggling from jt
just understand Vice is a very slow process. So your hr/unit rate will be pretty small. You can buy alot but can never sell alot
ur saying it isnt profitable?
This will give you the spread https://sc-trade.tools/home
Yeah, not that profitable. But Trade isn't very profitable at the moment except for huge haulers
im in a taurus
Yeah, too small for serious trade
Great ship though, Love it
I use mine for refined Quantainium hauling
yea i do mining mostly was tryna figure out trade though
Trade at this stage only favors the C2 or CAT
ah, then yeah, that's great
Now, if you fill the Taurus with vice it will take you many days to sell it off
Roc mining may not be the best way to earn money in the game but I find it more enjoyable than just doing package deliveries like I used to, and at least Iām not getting shot at like in bunker missions
it is a WAY better way to earn in 3.17 than any patch since 3.14
Seems like it, plus the sucking up jems part is much easier and not as crazyš
Only got a bit done yesterday but Iām at microtech loading up on ammo and visiting the hospital there today. Later tonight Iāll be back at Aberdeen
is there a way to see how cargos changed in the patches
other than figuring it out in game
recommended moons for mining?
lyria for quant
^
r u in a ship or roc
argo mole
hello fellow rock breakers, any intel on Quant prospecting in Aaron? Success rate and such
painful with the mole, slightly better with prospector
is there a cargo ship better than C2?
Hey where are folks finding the purchaseable cargo crates/boxes? I tried 2 of the cargo-area shops but couldnt find them
Any tips on how to get my ship to show in the mining selling console >?
it shows in the refining one
it is stored at the current station
I had this issue and it sounds weird but I saw someone say take all armour including under suit off and try again and weirdly it worked for me
New detection range suuuucks lol
in the storage buildings
at mining outposts
not cargo for your ship, but carryable boxes
can a Prospector mine a 6k + mass rock ?
With additional help
Quantainium
can u help with the right gadget?
any chance we'll get a fix to quant mining soon?
@robust osprey what issue?
scanning rocks and pinging is broken
@deep vector what are your suggested gadgets? i am using the Lancet head
@thin escarp do you have that picture of gadgets with stats?
it's not really broken, just nerfed into the ground
nah man the scanners literally just dont work most of the time
not even talking detection range
works fine for me most of the time. problem is detection range is now 300m for full scan and 1km for partial, which is just terrible
and since this wasnt mentioned at all by devs or in the patch notes im gonna er on the side of its a bug rather than a ner
Actually Ping is not broken, it is a new mechanic
was this confirmed by devs>
there was an IC about in during ptu, which was closed with something like 'it's intended, go post feedback about it'
I do think they are going to polish it some more. The whole mechanic is a long ways from where it needs to be
So what is the new mechanic then
fly within 300m of rocks, scan, mine.
When I say "new" it is more of an adjustment of how the whole Ping works
We use to get an Icon for a deposit at 5K, that is now 1,200ish meters
so 'null rocks' are still a thing in the belt?
We use to be able to tell from a far distance the characteristic of the target (single, multi, etc) but now we don't get that advanced info
well me and four friends spent an hour and a half searching for a single rock yesterday and didnt find one its a bit dumb if its intended tbh
That will require Server Meshing to fix
Todd Pappy was asked about it and that was his response
found the IC where it says intended: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-34080
that is more of a server issue or in the wrong place. I've done numerous testing in the PTU and never had that issue
fair amount of people saying similar stuff online to me
In the Halo I never had any of those issues. Grant it, I don't know about surface mining except for the ROC, which was fantastic
Where yall finding quant rocks now?
halo for me, same as before
Anywhere in it?
band5 usually
Whats that near
it was band 5 i was in off arc l1
@deep vector my gadget guide is already pinned
Anyone know how to start trading with a cutlass black?
how long you spending find a good rock (4k mass 30%+)
today i got 4 full prospector loads, 28-32%, each took about 20-30 minutes
tried with mole first but ran out of patience and hydro fuel š
for real? idk that sounds kinda extremely lucky since 20-30 mins in 3.16 was a damn good rate
yea it did feel lucky tbh. i also noticed a lot more boxes around me while pinging than before
What are the bands? Im not familiar with that
idk about taht man i searched band 5 for an hour an a half and got nothing and a lotta people on the forums are saying the same as me
Band 5 is the worst for mining because of the density, I have fantastic results in a lot less dense bands.
shouldn't density create more minable rocks?
I think that was 20-30 min per run
creates more duds
ye 20-30 mins per run in 3.16 was damn fast
No, that's my average
yea half an hour was average for me too
when i had a scout i usually barely had any downtime
You guys able to crack the quants solo in a prospector?
I calculate by $/trip instead of Time/trip
Yes, but up to a certain size on the surface
in halo yes, 2x focus and 1x vaux modules
Lancet still the way to go? Ive been using that with brandt surge and stampede
i think so, never used anything else
At this time you can crack everything in the Halo and don't even have to use any attachments. I use Surge just to speed it up
Lancet is still meta
No changes there
Yet
I sense something will be coming down the pipe, I don't think next patch but soon(tm)
so you are telling me that since the update you are still averaging 20-30 mins, regardless of the huge nerf to finding them? im honestly confused how
So i takew it you need 2 prospectors to mine a 6000 mass rock right ?
@north oyster you say band 5 what band is better?
i dont feel any difference now
No, but that is an issue. Duds are the ones you can't scan to begin with
No, to me, Band 5 is the worst
i didn't say that. i said i got 4 prospector loads today, each about 30 mins. that's not enough to give you reliable averages
because on lyria you still look for 2 or cluster
cos with 1 and the lancet head i am getting no heat build up
I scan all asteroids I pass, I've hit a number of 30% plus single asteroids in the Halo
what band?
Band 1 is my happy place, low density high percentage of Quan
has anyone tried scouting with ships that supposed to have better sensors? like Freelancer DUR or Reliant Sen?
I don't think that mechanic is implemented in game at this time
I remember video or two on that question and they all performed the same
but things do change without any fan fare from CIG
aight, so new meta is prospector for scouting, mole for mining i guess
MOLE radar that buggy? They were having other issues with the Mole and it's turrets also
idk about that, but mining laser gives you asteroid type from 1km away, so you can see if it' Q
ah, yea, with scan being buggy, I use that a lot
guess you could do it with a 2 manned mole too, but manouvering in prospector is better
I think the MOLE will need to have some attention, so IC contributions will be important here
vote it up theres already one with 15 votes
ah, ok, I'll go look and contribute
do you think we'll have to wait for a patch? seems like a really easy fix
can't say, or rather I can only speculate. A lot of issues dealing with ships are normally addressed with patch updates. We would see it all the time in PTU. Saw it this last go round with the MOLE's Turrets
im having issues selling my ore. it shows up on the left but not on the right
the shop may not be buying it, where are you?
new babbage mt planetary services
Admin office? Or the TDD
what's tdo?
Go to the TDD, it's at the end of the big hall in the center
no, not there
so it's in promenade then?
Head to the back of the commons area. You will see a big trading sign
You are in the right area just the wrong stall space
yep
around here?
omg ty
KEEP!!
are there maps like that for the other cities?
Yes
I think so, Lorville is a total pain
please show me the way senpai
I just google āstar citizen (insert location) mapā
So you can detach the fuel pods on a starfarer and potentially run cargo with it time to do some testing
taranite sold ty @cerulean lichen
I miss microtech. I moved to Hurston for mining and finding anything in lorville is such a pain. New Babbage has such a nice layout
Area18 won the bidding war for home base
i moved here when i realized i was working for the bad guys doing bunkers on hurston
those "terrorists" were probably just fed up with slave labor/wages
I only moved to Hurston after the update because I do roc mining and Aberdeen is perfect for it. Once I have a better idea of what I want to do Iāll probably move back to microtech
Burritos hot,
Burritos cold,
Burritos in my backpack, 9 days old
Anyone buy starfarer?
Mining still best way to earn money?
i think in the long run yeah. but barrier for entry is high. I just learned about 1 SCU boxes and bunker farming for guns and hadonite to sell. might actually be competitive with mining
best place for quantanium mining in 3.17?
@north oyster so belt 1 is going better
i think its easier here with the changes
because there is far less to check
and as you said still high % of quant
still delicious
Great to hear that, glad to know it just wasn't my own luck but rather it is a repeatable process
Cast iron gut with the toons
what gadget is best for prospector mining? i was using surge/stampede/optimum modules and gonna try some belt 1 mining i guess since belt 5 suckkkked
regarding the cargo boxes thing, I'm at Bezdek and PB won't let me claim my arrow, too large? Whats the largets small ship I can claim that will work?
Try Band 4 & 6, little less dense and had better hits. My favorite spot is Band 1. Very low density (less dud scans) and higher % of Quan in my experience.
yeah, the list of ships that PB can claim is very small. I've not tested but I think the 100i is part of that list. I'm not sure on which ships can be spawned there.
In the Halo, any gadgets you decide to use are optional. A Prospector with just a lancet can basically harvest anything in the Halo in that default (at this time)
thx
What could be causing an issue where the mining laser on the roc doesnāt have any affect on a node no matter the power setting? Like the progress bar doesnāt move for node stability
That is a bug, I'm sure. Did you do a reset on the ROC (power cycle)?
Yes I did
Also, is it a fresh spawn ROC or have you taken it in the field a number of times?
Ah so I apparently have a troll having over my selling point. Tried to kill me, failed and now is circling like a shark
It maybe a NPC
Itās Anatoly āLegrandā sounds like a npc
what should i buy if all laranite is sold out
def a NPC
Is trading better now than what is was in the last patch?
anyone
So I fought the NPC and won. Good to know the cutlass can defend itself from npc pirates
Though it was still funny how it kept wanting to get me even after I wolf my haulš
is it cru l1 that has the % bonus for quant?
do mining stations on planets ever restock or you gotta go to a different new server?
does anyone need one man cuz i just wanna play with someone and make money
everytime i trade with a full haul of laranite for 270,000 auec, i only get like 300,000 auec in return, is that good? (i have a freelancer max)
is the Carrack a good ship for being able to haul enough cargo to actually make good $$?
Yh, but if your looking for pure cargo, try for a C2
not looking for PURE cargo, just seeing if it was "good enough" I guess to do cargo if I wanted but still able to do other stuff
well i tried belt 5.. we found a single cluster in 2 hours with enough in it to be decent in a mole.. did belt 1 in a prospector for an hour and found nothing but 2% quant and ghost rocks... went down to lyria and you can see so many scans that now 2/3 of what you come across isn't even a ship mineable
mining is definitely frustrating so far in 3.17
Been having amazing luck in belts 4 through 6 today in a prospector. Got about 15 work orders of quant in just a few hours
Some rocks still unscannable but found some nice clusters
Hey i have some cargo on my 300i but cannot sell? When I go to a trading console and click select destination nothing happens
Lyria has been generous this morning, several of these were clusters as I got closer
Lyria has sucked for me. 2 hours only 2% rocks
my first bit of exploring was like that then it all came flooding in
I tried putting a mining attachment on a rock
and can we all give an amen to the updated HUD so we can actually read it?!
and it just fell off onto the floor lol and i couldnt even pick it up
Lyria has also sucked for me lol. Ill stick to the belts for now
Had a Hammerhead do the same to me landing at PO. Then it just sat there 2kms from the station while I EVAd to it and boarded. Turned out to be an NPC
How do people crack 7k+ mass? Whatās the strategy?
Lancet II with 3 active modules
What modules do you recommend?
I have lancet 1 with Brandt, stampede and XLRt I believe but the most I can do is 6k range
are those modules good to use though?
I'm not really into active modules, I'm more of a passive kinda guy
Surge once to gauge the spike let the charge drain out just enough to surge again at the top of the green. Hit stampede and maybe even optimum to get a 7k. Will be hard and should expect to surge into the red to get the maximum amount of time in the green before it falls otherwise you wasted your chance and will have to surge again. Expect to fail a few times but if you have money to spare itās beneficial to experiment and get that knowledge. I personally havenāt tried a 7k but The guy who taught me says heās passed 7k often with this setup minus the optimum.
It becomes more profitable with larger quantities. You may have to dilute your loads when a place runs out of laranite to buy. Alas, running cargo isn't what it used to be.
if i leave with my cargo and ship in a landing bay, what will happen
i have a glitch where its not letting me out of my seat and not letting me press anything
The next most expensive ore or commodity
so then what is it
I've had that happen to me while in the PTU, so I see it coming to LIVE now. Was on Aberdeen while I was pulling my ROC for mining
That all depends on what outpost you are at. Gold, Titanium, Diamonds. Titanium has been pretty popular
Agricium is also very good
You will never find Laranite in decent quantities
now its not letting me into the verse
switch regions
tried
let me check status page
im reloading main menu
exit out to desktop. if you ever crash out, always close the launcher
ok im loading into a game
i just had a full load of laranite but a glitch stopped all my controls from working and letting me out of my seat
roc mining is very efficient but time consuming
as long as you find hadanite
Ok I have refined my roc mining loop, besides travel I can make 187k every hour depending on how lucky I am.
do you only mine hadanite, or others too
If I just focus on hadanite I get better results I have found. Though Iām just on Aberdeen if I was anywhere else Iād mine everything. Plus I have only been stoping for 3 or more nodes per stop
i always mine hadanite, but if theres alot of aphorite ill get it
i mine on daymar
less rocks
less rocks that block the hadanite i mean
like those big rocks
Aberdeen has been really smooth it seems, no rocks.
Yep tons of it. Like almost all nodes I fine are Hadanite. Only downside is you need the pembroke suit in order to survive the heat of the planet
eh doesnt matter
im gonna mine there now
Set up at the orbital station above Hurston and store you stuff there. Makes logging in to go mining much faster
How is lyria for quant in 3.17?
I think that was just in the mole though
the turret in the cargo space of the freelancer max is wasted space
without it you could load more cargo in
couldve put the turret somewhere else
Nah it's brutal scanning even in a prospector - you don't see rocks until you're sub 2km out from them
Honestly I found so many roc clusters I'm considering taking that out instead to see what sorta money I can pull
so its hard to roc mine?
dam it sucks how they nerfed trading
Roc mining has been a dream lately. Itās so good. At the rate Iām making money I should have enough for my next ship decision in a week.
its not really a nerf to trading it makes it to where trading will actually be diverse and able to change in the future when they implement quantum to trading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SyAILcM89E
@hallow shore this might be a new best starter hauler for ya
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Eh for its price point theres other ships that are about the same
Feel like if your new you should explore more of the game before figuring out whether you really wanna do trading 100% because its super boring at times
@hallow shore
The raft isnt currently buyable and honestly hes better off waiting till this next month because the raft is the subscription ship so he can test out trading, before buying a ship out right plus fleet week is coming up here soon
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by "not buyable" do you mean that you don't like it?
No im saying its not buyable with usd from rsi
all good idragi, you missed the convo we had yesterday on ships. I have Cutty, RAFT and MSR, and buddy there was looking for pros and cons of different ships, wanted a RAFT as well. Was just sharing another option
Personally I love Argo's aesthetic, not as much of a MISC fan
love it
But anyone thats a beginner in the game thats thinking about getting into hauling/ trading should definetly wait for the raft to be the sub ship oh and my cat is pirate
Granted im a big drake/misc/consolidated outlands person so though i do like argos appearance its not preferred to me personally
I love CNO too, Nomad is bae
Nah pioneer
I've been having fun trading with the starfarer gemini sucks to land at night in area18 but otherwise fun
yeah but Nomad has preworkout
ew
Can I get RAFT in game for AUEC?
yes
also veggies and cutting board and dining area/kitchenette
At loreville
Whatās she worth
@sacred loom
1,853,000
Thatās pretty cheap, how much SCU?
96
Thatās not to bad. Not sure it replaces my Taurus tho
nah taurus is your better bet
Is Raft added in 3.17?
ah the RAFT auec is inaccurate you right
Yes
How has trading been for u boys?. Last time I did it my C2 exploded outside Tammy and sons with 800k of product in it for no reason. Havenāt done it since
haven't had issues, but I mostly do quick laranite runs in the RAFT or MSR
I havent done much yet but gonna hop on tonight and hopefully not get beamed in my hull a and cat
U must only make like 50k profit?
about that per run ya
Ope lol might make about 150-200k pofit per run
I was only getting like 130k profit from a full C2
running drugs?
nah
No way Drag, not 200
what are you getting that margin on a Cat??
Sitting there and waiting for agricium/ laranite to spawn lmao
Good luck to you, hope she donāt go boom š„
Normally doesnt
Good shit, same for me until she went boom 1 time lol
unfortunately I have no intention of spending real people money on ships at the moment
but I do like the Hull A
How much is the Argo raft ingame?
its a mole but filled with cargo
@undone scaffold
Thanks
I like to do feron exchange for prospector loads
I'm trying to get a decent amount of Quant but not having much luck..
Hereās a site that calculates prices for different refining methods https://uexcorp.space/refining
Mining Calculator, Trade, Prices, Risks, Profitability, Mass to SCU Converter, Ships List, SCU, Prices and more
VC brad?
Im out of town atm
See you're the second person who's told me that
Idk why
I can't ever find anything decent
I want to get a good yield of high percent Quant
Set your route to arc l3
Using a rental prospector cause I'm broke
I've only got like. 300k
The rental prospector kinda sux
No kidding
It's why I'm trying to make enough to actually BUY one
Or a Mole even
Mole has more storage right
Honestly a prospector is just as good as a mole when solo
Fair
You wonāt ever Fill it up by yourself
a Mole?
Yeah
Iām about to lose cell service
Rentals are all I can afford right now
A rental prospector isnāt good for mining quant
You need to have a lancet head to make it efficient
What would you recommend mining to get the money for a prospector?
Thatās the only advice I got
Ok
How much will the hull a be in game
No idea
Ok well the 85x is $50 and itās like 600k, so probably like 1.1 or some
I feel like trading needs some work before we see any trading ships like the Hull A available for in game purchase
won't see much trading changes until Cargo Refactor is in
was planning on getting a hull a but was wondering how to do you put the cargo on and off the ship?
probably the same as trading with any other ship
It auto loads for now
best place to mine qantinium ?
Renting a prospector worth it if Iām going to mine things other than quantainium?
you'd be surprised how quickly you can turn a profit just selling raw ore
is the prospector still profitable in 3.17?
still messed up
AWHHAHAHWAHHWBBEBSA
Any trade routes that actually work
just the medicore ones that deal with laranite
im just going to go back to mining with my prospector
When cig releases new trading ship but doesnāt fix trading
Mining makes me sad now. Why did they decrease the rock icons to 2000m 
it makes me very sad
Indeed
especially since i just bought the prospector
I guess it makes scouts more vital for mining
Lol
i dont think they even made it more profitable š¢
Nah they didn't
just a straight nerf
Mining and BH took a hard hit it seems
Bunkers might be my new thing
Or Vaughn bounties are pretty good
Anyone got a mole and need a crew of 2?
Hey I just got off for the night but hit me up tomorrow and I will be down for some multi crew quant runs
@weak hound if you're still looking, I can offer up my Mole for some mining.
I dont think the scanning this is intended. Canāt even scan the clouds anymore. The 2k distance was mainly meant for hand/roc mining but seems like it effected everything
I have to get within 300m to tell what is in an asteroid in my mole
Yea definitely not intended. Still had a successful mining day though. Got 20 work orders cooking quantanium
wait, all ships have a detect range of 2km now? or is that just like Prospectors
That offer still available?
Does anyone know the current selling price of quantanium?
Yeah I'm wondering about this too as well as where the best place to sell it is
I just mined my first ever deposit and just trying to calculate how much ill get for it
The reduced scan range isn't a bug. CIG confirmed it's an intended change
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-34080
well beans
I'm flat broke
tried doing some security missions to build money for trading
same i just lost the last of my money to a broken shipping console & then game crash
screwed up in new and spectacular ways each time
I didn't know rescue beacons took your money
Well thats pretty dumb
Itās good change
I just got the game, and am thinking of doing mining. Whats the best ship for single or a small crew?
prospector is the ship to go for for single mining, youll need a mole to do crew unless you get like a rover to mine and just use a ship with a large bay to transport
got it. Thanks
any trade routes that actually have working shipping consoles
what's going on with the consoles?
cannot select ship
anybody have an idea of where i can get the Waveshift gadget?
hello, I just bought a hull a, is there any good guide to learn how to do cargo?
Keep in mind you wonāt be doing decent money with hullA
You need 10 times scu to get some money
Get tier 1 shields and military powerplant to boost survival
Get fastest drive
im going to be doing a lot of cargo
probably save up for a prospector?
Nice choice
is that the best stuff?
Don't listen to him, he's exaggerating. The servers aren't populated enough for you to actually be at risk of getting ganked like in EVE. You can start out perfectly fine hauling cargo in a Hull A. Only downside is you need enough case upfront to buy the cargo you plan to sell
yup, the Hull A is meant to specialize as a orbital hauler, bringing stuff up and down since the largest Hull series ships aren't intended for atmospheric
if you find any non-broken trade routes lmk
Made 13k from rayark research to NB
ty
Medical supplies
Any tips for using the map?
and what happens during game crash or server crash while I have cargo? do I have to sleep in bed for it to save or something?
is the Mole worth it?
Lose
Ok thanks
i think the 30k protection should still be working this patch so
really depends of the 30k protection works or not but if it does you should keep it
50/50 in 3.16
don't listen to Fox. This was patched last year, if the game or server crashes while you have cargo it will be preserved.
anyone know what trade routes are still working? im in a dead server so might run some
you know 30K crashes were patched last year so they don't affect cargo, right?
nuen waste management definitely isnt working
ok thanks, thats pretty cool
50/50
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qj7nyg/30k_crash_recovery_is_now_fixed_and_should_now/
Eat a fat one, I had lost both cargos with a trading and mining in case of 30k in 3.16. Never say donāt listen to someone based on you NOT having same problem.
haven't had it affect me since a year ago
no you're putting out lots of bad info
like telling a new player they can't make money with the Hull A
You get more money doing box missions on 3rd level then doing cargo runs with ships up to 100 scu.
Don't tell another player to play the game you want to. You're gatekeeping and that's a bad attitude to have.
So yes, I wouldnāt call 10k profit making money, hull A very slow
Iām not telling anyone to do certain things. I just answered the question.
You can take your judgments and keep them to yourself if you don't want to be encouraging. Don't the the kind of person that drives new players away with that attitude
I have very little tolerance for people like that
It want the target tbh, I understood your point
I shouldāve said it other way
Agree
Peace
how are you guys enjoy the Expanse?
The Expanse isn't in the game yet
Really fun ship
Been running erts with it
I don't expect to see the Expanse for a while
Needs additional game tech for mobile refining
If I'm right, you can't place box cargo in the Hull A and only bought cargo
Wait for cargo refactor
if i were to be in the middle of a cargo run, and the server crashes or somn, do i lose eveything?
just a definite Mayb e
in 3.15 i believe, they added a heartbeat recovery system
so server side crashes, and even personal 30k can sometimes keep the cargo intact
Most of the time
its iffy
how is trade in 3.17? bet it is buffed because of the hull a
i had a laugh when i brought my prospector to dream station to find the refinery has a 59,000% overload
yo, so is mining worth it in 3.17? or does this scanning issue make it way less profitable?
hey, does anyone has a good cargo route planer website, which is up to date ?
Iām afraid when expanse will be working theyāll just enable limit
Mining is worth it but some aspects have changed. Also with this build the distribution of deposits may have shifted. I'm still analyzing the bands for results
What is an overload?
@scarlet rover I'll say it too. 30ks are still a thing. people lose money. The game is in alpha everyone is experiencing different bugs. I've been wrecked by 30ks in 3.16 and will still be affected sometimes in 3.17. I also agree that the Hull A currently isn't a huge money maker as cargo has been fuckey since 3.12. Will people have fun still doing cargo. Yes if they are into it.
I wish I could utilize smaller ships like cutty, hull A, freelancer, raft, even Taurus and except role play get some decent payouts. But still I get into my caterpillar to make at least 80k a run.
I will say expect a new mining guide in the next 10 days or so
My team and I have been working since it hit the ptu but have battled 30ks.
I love that for me nothing changed in 3.17 in case of mining. I still was poking my nose into every rock at halo because of unscannables. And on lyria only thing that changed for me is too many false alarms while looking for 2/clusters because of ROC mineables, more than half of pings are those. my personal experience
At least I didnāt find any unscannables on lyria from 3.17 live
I just wish you could scan the boxes to check RS signatures. would save so much time
True
I still prefer to look at em with eyes
But again, itās personal preference
yeah but you have to be close to do that which means flying all the way over
in mole

just seems such a hassle to find clusters now
Same rule as before, no? 20 mins nothing found - server jump
and the HUD in the Mole turret is so tiny now not sure why they changed that
Also lold from that
I know why
Or wait
No, never mind
It was raft problem
Not mole
is anyone doing cargo rn
So when Iām using any mining interface the scroll wheel for how much power your using is really janky. A lot of times it simply doesnāt respond, and when it does it like skips around a bunch and is generally not fun to use. Is there a way to fix it or do I just need to make/get a dedicated throttle?
wait did they intentionally remove this? or still the bug
Have they said anything about the new (reduced) scan / info distance is a bug or design change?
from reading the chat yesterday, I believe it was decreased to about 2k
bruh thatās dumb
Not sure if it can be fixed, but analog throttles works fine
it has to be a bug.... otherwise what's the point of a ping and radar scanning?
radar signatures was a thing in 3.16, now it seems to be removed
we're going to the future, where we need to use our eyes for visual inspections now
yea i donāt get it, doesnāt make sense unless they thought people were making too much money or some shit like that
let's see what they do, but if that remains then I will agree with you.
How much money can you make doing cargo?
I need some tips on how to mine, i have a ROC and nothing else so i need to know how to make money
thanks
haha im picking out rocks with my physical eyes better than my scanners right now
Yeah its that fucking bad lol
still making good skrilla tho
what cargo makes good money and I can do stress free?
which keybinds are for module use on prospector?
Titanium is ur best bet
If you dont wanna trade lara
why not laranite?
for ex?
Full load of laranite for a FL costs 250k and you make 30k profit
For example
what about med supplies?
Med supplies are ok ig
But titanium is better imo
You could probably mix lara and titanium
Since laranite is pretty much never gonna have enough stock to fill a hold completely
why is laranite more dangerous than titanium?
what about astatine as well?
No idea
ok
thank you so much for your help, how do I get the fastest trade route?
i am struggling to use this trade tools website
i want to try laranite lol
Alright
if i lose it, i will live
Go to either hurston or arccorp
Both have 2 main locations on moons that sell it
I would recommend arccorp since the train ride is faster there
so hurston would be best
Eh
because 100K units
everything will be sold out most likely
Yep
because stock is shared globally
im going to try
Just do arccorp
so you're trying to buy as everyone else in the world is trying as well
The travel time is much faster
i will do 1 load on hurston since im already going there lol
Sure
not a native english speaker
what is jettison cargo?
it's for quant to add some more time to it before it explodes?
laranite, astatine, med supplies and titanium are all what im looking at
oh, gotcha
is there any good hull a erkul loadout yet?
so what is most profitable then?
i got laranite but that apparently will always be low stock?
so what do i do then?
astatine seems more $$$?
Less profit
Expensive doesnt mean good profit always
buy at 7, sell at 9
And titanium?
buy 7.1 sell 8.9
laranite 100% sucks? not even worth trying at other shops?
where are surge modules now? Arc L1 doesnt seem to have them anymore š¦
heyo so I have a hull-a and around 60k to spend, what do I buy and where can i get it/sell it?
so I purcahsde at lyria and transport it to area18
Yep
no
make sure to check stock
If you cant fill with lara chuck in astatine and titanium
how can i check stock?
And you most likely wont fill with laranite ever
it should show you i think
?
where can i get laranite from?
ArcCorp?
The site doesnt show the current amount of stock fast enough to be accurate in time
At times it can be days behind
https://www.erkul.games/loadout/Mk02ktGP does this work?
this is what i mean
so what would this be?
Humboldt mines restocks 1200 laranite per min
5k a min
But!
Brios breaker yard is broken too lol
It wont detect ur ship
You can try ofc
so why wouldnt i be doing this?
You can try it in game, sure
well i dont understand
Ill tell you why
The medical supplies DEMAND isnt as high has on laranite for example
They buy 1k each 10 mins, which probably is inaccurate
Aint it 1km range tho
went to about 30-40 rocks, only like 2 were unscannable though
but yeah, you have to get close
and there's stuff like noise in scan mode
it was changed
Mmh
you mean a ship?
A ship to use to transport my quant to a TDD
me too
Tryina get an FL max first
I just rent a freelancer when I have a few orders done
what is fastest?
Orisin, lorville and new babbage
why not area 18?
there are 4X that are over 1m
Thats max stock
Not per min
Hurston seems to be the best for titanium
At least according to the trade tools that is
man i hate this bug so much
Where's the best place to sell refined quantanium
A18 or Lorville
I would, but i got other stuff to do
Fair
Ill probably be on tomorrow or so
Hey
Heyo I'm hoppin on now. if you want to add me my ign is StickyGrins
I was in the middle of an asteroid field when my server 30ked last night so I have no idea where I'm gonna be
XD rip
what places buy 'plasma fuel'?
And fuel usage too probably
meh
Ok, I found the best route!
and got the fastest quantum :), just got 54 SCU of laranite
Hi Guys, I wanna do some Cargo space trucker simulator. Seems fun. I'm thinking to buy a Taurus Buy/Sell, but have no idea yet how to start. Any advice?
Cool
Same deal as before, either ArcCorp or Lorville for laranite
Depends on which one you like
Personally i like arccorp due to shorter train travel times
excuse me?
?
I have no idea how to start